Trojan Horses in the Church Today - Part 4: Study Bibles and Commentaries

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Northland Bible Baptist Church

Northland Bible Baptist Church

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@roblangsdorf8758
@roblangsdorf8758 10 ай бұрын
When I first became a Christian I got a Scofield Reference Bible. It puts a gap of millions of years between the 1st and 2nd verse of Genesis chapter one. It took me about a decade and a half to overcome this false teaching and recognize that there is no gap. God really did create everything in 6 days less than 10,000 years ago. So be aware of the false teaching in Scofield that has led millions to reject Christianity because "science" said that Genesis chapter 1 was wrong. Scofield had undermined reading God’s Word as it is written in Genesis.
@kellyjenkins7942
@kellyjenkins7942 8 ай бұрын
Years ago I heard that the famous missionary Jim Eliot never put a mark in his Bible. He wanted the word to be fresh every time he came to meet God in His Holy Word. That advice has kept me in good stead for decades now. I read through the Word over and over each year. Each year it becomes clearer and clearer. I start to anticipate the next story coming along, I see patterns and details never noticed before, etc. I have many times had to check my reading schedule because I was sure that I had read the passage only the week before when in fact it had been a year since I was there, it seemed so fresh to me! I am concerned Pastor, with your consistent admonition to “be careful” when using study Bibles. There is a problem when the ones who need to be the most careful, new believers, are the ones the least equipped to even understand what “careful” in this situation would even entail. How much better to guide the congregation to a regular Bible reading schedule and making elders and teachers available to guide those who need help. Please consider this. We have lost so much true discipleship in this day and age. Thank you for your teaching. May the Lord bless you and your family.
@BrandonParish-u8f
@BrandonParish-u8f Жыл бұрын
Amen to this. I’ve been on the merry go round of all those false doctrines. Praise Jesus I’m back to the simplicity that’s in Christ and the gospel. I didn’t have to become a theologian to be saved. I am saved by grace through faith…., faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. My faith may be visible in what I do or don’t do but regardless whether it’s visible to others or not I have faith. I am saved as sure as Jesus came lived died and rose again!!
@giovannaparadise6389
@giovannaparadise6389 4 ай бұрын
Amen!! You are my precious brother/sister in CHRIST! You said exactly what I just said after listening to this brother. GOD is so good!! Have a blessed day dear one. 😍✝️🙌
@catherinegray1367
@catherinegray1367 Жыл бұрын
What's a gal to do when no one cares? Finally in 2020, I stopped going to false many churches, only to find out I was still stuck in stealthier false churches. Now that I'm free in Christ, I can't get anyone's attention!? They're trusting their small group, their study guides, their mystic prayer/worship events. When you've been in bondage, and then you're free, you want all who are in bondage to become free- no one wants to hear this from me. My world is getting smaller and smaller. Ty for this series.
@davidjones-tl1dw
@davidjones-tl1dw Жыл бұрын
Hang in there Sister , you are not alone although it may seem it. But if you were to be all alone, better to stand alone in Christ than with any other group in the world.
@lynnmorrison4173
@lynnmorrison4173 11 ай бұрын
I feel exactly as you do. At the moment we don’t go anywhere as I can’t stand all the nonsense that is church or the legalism and hypocrisy of the denomination I was brought up in. I read my Bible and listen to any sound ministry I can find. I wish I could have an hour in a meeting ( as we called them ) that we would have attended in the 1980s. Most of those faithful believers are now with the Lord and so those good teaching days seem to be over.
@laverawoods9174
@laverawoods9174 11 ай бұрын
I have been a believer for over 40 years but have really gotten serious about seeking Jesus thru the Bible. I am so disappointed in many "believers" who do not want to talk Jesus, Bible, eternity, etc. They almost get angry with me for my enthusiasm for my faith. My world is getting smaller too, yet I have a freedom in Christ that I have never had before. God bless. Soon and very soon we are going to see the King.
@bjones5791
@bjones5791 2 жыл бұрын
I had a NKJV for two years in prison.No notes,no cross references,just the Word.It was and is awesome to have that as my beginning💕
@donnaedwards4076
@donnaedwards4076 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pastor. This has been a part of my journey and I like to study using cross references now in the KJV Bible. The Holy Spirit is a great teacher.
@MarcG7778
@MarcG7778 3 жыл бұрын
Amen!🥰✝️👑
@loriirons9503
@loriirons9503 3 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@christineroy4917
@christineroy4917 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this excellent sermon! Looking forward to another!
@bayfilly1
@bayfilly1 10 ай бұрын
Your sermons sound like long-running commentaries to me. What's the difference?
@torrinolte8280
@torrinolte8280 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate the resources mentioned to use for Bible study. Thank you!
@MarkJohnson-xm6hy
@MarkJohnson-xm6hy 10 ай бұрын
I use Bible Gateway to read different translations of the Bible. I admit that I have stayed away from KJV and usually read NIV because its written in a modern language. I did not realize the differences between two was that massive. My pastor uses NIV.
@nobux717
@nobux717 10 ай бұрын
Mark, I found out myself that the NIV is considered one of the most corrupt translations out there. I never left the King James bible myself because the devil is in the details of newer translations regardless of how easy they have been made to read. Even the New King James should be avoided because of the nature of how modified biblical deception works. The attempt to change the wording in the King James is no accident, even though there may be good intentions in it. One minister I saw said he wouldn't use any modern Bible translations printed after 1899.
@winterpatriot1429
@winterpatriot1429 10 ай бұрын
My dad bought me a 1917 (notes) Scofield Ref Bible 35 years ago. It’s about to fall apart, so I purchased the same Bible not too far back. I’ve really enjoyed this Bible over the years. My father used his for many, many years, before the Lord took him home to be with Him. When I saw the video title, I wondered if it would come up. Really enjoying the Trojan Horse series!
@kcoble1000
@kcoble1000 3 жыл бұрын
I have a plain Bible and make my own notes ( and sometimes I have to ignore my own notes 😬 )
@SavedInANanosecond.
@SavedInANanosecond. 3 жыл бұрын
So good!
@freyaaldrnari6086
@freyaaldrnari6086 2 жыл бұрын
My 71 year old father believes in works salvation. He attends a Baptist Church. My sister and her husband say we are not saved because we don't have fruits.
@jessstone7486
@jessstone7486 Жыл бұрын
Wow. And your sister *knows* fruits, eh?! Talk about presumption!
@shelleythomas1046
@shelleythomas1046 11 ай бұрын
Pastor please do some historical research on the Scoffield Study Bible. The partnership between Darby and Scoffield. Who these men were and what things they were into and their agenda. I say no more.
@shelleythomas1046
@shelleythomas1046 11 ай бұрын
Doesn't the Bible itself say we do not need anyone to teach us because the Lord himself would lead us into all truth.
@ellensteiger2199
@ellensteiger2199 10 ай бұрын
I like cross references the Bible teaches us and explains us most of the things the concordens helped me too
@trentthompson2899
@trentthompson2899 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, Thanks 👍
@trentthompson2899
@trentthompson2899 3 жыл бұрын
I completely understand what you are saying. I've used only the Scofield Reference Bible which is kjv. I knew that I was not obligated to believe any of his commentary or notes. For example in Matt.7:14 the text reads, "which leadeth unto life". Scofield's notes says it is " eternal" life. If I believe that, it has nothing to do with Scofield saying so.
@lanemorrison4145
@lanemorrison4145 3 жыл бұрын
A very good sermon about the truth that's going on with Christian church ministry today. So much Calvinism, Armenianism, lordship salvation, and legalism/judaizers. Once one learns the basic simplicity of salvation, spotting these false doctrines becomes easy to catch at any church. The pastors seem to have no idea or problem with teaching it. And they can be very very ok with it and really don't want to hear any criticism. I'm hesitant to waste my breath pointing it out to them anymore, because their church congregation would collapse and run if they changed their message.
@dirtypatwalsh
@dirtypatwalsh 11 ай бұрын
The only Bible I had for 40+ years was the NIV and I came to saving faith with that Bible. Just saying. God bless…I love this channel and this series!💯🙏✝️❤️👍
@caddyman7725
@caddyman7725 3 жыл бұрын
What would you say about the Thompson Chain Reference Bible? How about Matthew Henry?
@amazinggrace4507
@amazinggrace4507 3 жыл бұрын
I would go to the Pastor's church website where you can email him with any questions. I have done so before. You're more likely to get an answer that way. Have a blessed day!
@josephsdream8234
@josephsdream8234 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh you said the magic word, "that commentary will teach them," that's the danger, "the indoctrination," and it is indoctrination! The Holy spirit is the Teacher! Commentaries and the notes in study Bibles are nothing more than another man's opinion, understand what you are reading, "in context," in your Bible, and then read the note's and see if they confirm with the Lord is giving you, be very careful of another man's opinion, as the wisdom of man and the wisdom of this world is very dangerous! Seek the wisdom and discernment of God! Maranatha...
@bradhays5961
@bradhays5961 Жыл бұрын
It is true that some commentaries are in error. There are a few commentaries that are dedicated to contextual content, utilizing comprehensive interpretive tools to rightly divide the word. Commentaries are simply an exhortation of a particular biblical scholar. All bible colleges and seminaries utilize them for curriculum having a library full of them.
@nikkilarsen6546
@nikkilarsen6546 Жыл бұрын
Just so that people are aware there is a treasury of scripture knowledge published by John, MacArthur, so pay attention to the author of the book if you purchased one.
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266
@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 3 жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend the Scofield Reference and Ryrie Study Bibles as long as they're in a Majority Text and not an Alexandrian Critical Text version. As a young believer, they'll set you up well to be a workman approved of God who can rightly divide the Word of Truth. Of course as Pastor Tom succinctly points out in this message, caution has to be exercised with the notes. Even Charles Ryrie good man as he was made some dubious comments inconsistent with what he really believed (rightly) about salvation and John McArthur picked out to support his Lordship view.
@bradholbrooks
@bradholbrooks 3 жыл бұрын
I made the mistake of reading these men’s thoughts on scripture for many years, but came to the realization that the only true teacher of the Bible (KJB) is, as the Bible makes clear, God’s Holy Spirit. You will never learn anything about God’s Word outside of His Word, prayer, and His Holy Spirit. Scofield was a modernist who’s first notes will introduce new believers to the false “Gap Theory.” He also thinks himself a better translator of scripture than the KJB translators, and promotes the Wescott and Hort Revised Version. It seems wise to put away our idols, like Scofield, Ryrie, MacAuthor, and the most popular Billy Graham, and recommend nothing but God’s Word, respectfully teaching the truth about it’s preservation in the KJB, and the only way to understand it correctly: through the teaching and guidance of God’s Holy Spirit as we pray and study His preserved Word: this cultivates a relationship with God, rather than consuming hypocritical delusions of men and their vain, Antichrist religion(s).
@vitadulcereyes6788
@vitadulcereyes6788 3 жыл бұрын
hi, where can i find a software copy of the study bible you mentioned?thank you
@InterFinumRerum
@InterFinumRerum 3 жыл бұрын
Scofield's notes seem to indicate he believed dispensational salvation, avoid him.
@dagwould
@dagwould 2 жыл бұрын
Both are purveyors of a nonsensical interpretation of Revelation and Biblical history. Good only for the trash.
@mikeha
@mikeha 2 жыл бұрын
how do we know that Ryrie "really" believed the right gospel if he wrote lordship salvation in his commentary? or was his commentary written by someone else?
@randyd9805
@randyd9805 Жыл бұрын
I prefer to read the Bible without notes. I have the Old Scofield and used it for years, but find the notes more of a distraction than helpful. I also bought the Ryrie Study Bible. It's a very nice Bible, but the text was too small. I have gotten far more from the Bible just by reading it than any other single thing. I do read commentaries some, but I'm VERY restrictive on who I will read.
@charleswhittington1974
@charleswhittington1974 5 ай бұрын
This is why I use His NT commentary
@mrsrowland7
@mrsrowland7 11 ай бұрын
I have been mocked by people when I tell them to look into who wrote a particular commentary or Christian self-help book
@debraharper677
@debraharper677 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you so much!!
@rescendo
@rescendo 10 ай бұрын
Can I get a list of the examples where other Bibles differ from the King James Bible?? Ron Mostyn
@timothyIII1977
@timothyIII1977 11 ай бұрын
Amen Pastor Thomas
@RivenRock300
@RivenRock300 10 ай бұрын
My experience, when I pick up a book on the Bible , the first thing I look for , is what Bible version scriptures are used . If it does not use the KJV , just put it down , as it will be UNSCRIPTURAL sound .
@carmenanderson2303
@carmenanderson2303 11 ай бұрын
How about Halleys Bible Handbook? If haven't looked at it for some years and will be interested to study with fresh eyes after listening here.
@laverawoods9174
@laverawoods9174 11 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly, once Billy Graham's group bought the copyright to it, it was changed significantly from the original version which warned of the falsehood of the Catholic church. This is consistent with Graham's ecumenical push to one world religion. The older version is, most likely, a better choice. I see there is now a new NIV version . . .
@chuckyoo
@chuckyoo 3 жыл бұрын
Amen, God bless you.
@Alisha127
@Alisha127 3 жыл бұрын
Such an edifying message, thanks for all the wonderful info! God bless you always🤍🇮🇱
@PerrynBecky
@PerrynBecky 3 жыл бұрын
The Strongs concordance can be included in the coral where the Trojan horses are kept. There are plenty of cyber scholars that refer to the Strongs to poo poo the KJV.
@pkrockin3923
@pkrockin3923 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Because of Strongs concordance along with listening to pastor Yankee and Tom, I learned the real meaning of the word "repent" along with "prassw" and "poeio" in 1 John 3.
@jessstone7486
@jessstone7486 Жыл бұрын
Incorrect. The Strongs is *based* on the KJV!!! Someone's got their wires crossed!
@jessstone7486
@jessstone7486 Жыл бұрын
Posted wrong. This reply of mine was to perrynbecky, not pkrockin....who is correct!
@ellensteiger2199
@ellensteiger2199 10 ай бұрын
That is an eye opener pastors teach other peoples opinion not what the Holy Spirit teaches them , unbelievable how easy is it then for a pastor to teach, he doesn’t have to spend time with God he gets his information from other people unbelievable!!!
@tautchiaterrycoleman8892
@tautchiaterrycoleman8892 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent message! I have watched all of the Trojan Horse messages and I will just say AMEN!!!!!!! My dear friend just found your ministry this past week via a recommendation from Andy Woods (I respect his teachings very much.), and after watching several videos by Pastor Cucuzza, recommended this channel to me. I am so thrilled to find another sound Bible teacher! I recently received the Ryrie Study Bible as a gift, but realize that Ryrie is not doctrinally correct on everything, and will be discerning. As a small home church group, we are currently watching the James sermon series by Dr. Andy Woods, and he pointed out the errors in the Ryrie notes (as well as the errors many others teach) on James 2:24-26. I would love to watch the evening sermon Pastor Cucuzza spoke about on how to study and take notes. Will that be available to view online?
@Northlandchurchstc
@Northlandchurchstc 3 жыл бұрын
All of our Sunday services are Live Streamed. You can find this past Sunday evening's service in the history. www.northlandchurch.com/livestreaming
@RickZolaBuckeyeBeliever
@RickZolaBuckeyeBeliever Жыл бұрын
@@Northlandchurchstccan anyone vouch forPastor Richard Ellis from Dallas Tx ? He is pastor at Reunion Church and Richard Ellis Talks on KZbin. Any info would be appreciated
@loriirons9503
@loriirons9503 3 жыл бұрын
KJV and a Strongs concordance if you do not understand the word in the scripture. Scripture interprets scripture, in context. 2 Timothy 2:15.
@Jerrybouey
@Jerrybouey 10 ай бұрын
In this video, the preacher mentions a Scofield 3 study Bible (at least that’s what it sounded like). I never heard of that. The New Scofield Study Bible claims to be KJV - but the marginal notes are actually incorporated into the Bible text).
@darid17
@darid17 10 ай бұрын
Can I ask how do the verses that faith is dead without works fit in all this? Because that's the verse that those who believe in works and faith salvation use.
@Northlandchurchstc
@Northlandchurchstc 10 ай бұрын
Check out Pastor's series on that passage. kzbin.info/aero/PL2B4ebzvFXJCj_oyz4ael4yJHRifJfM-E
@n9wff
@n9wff 10 ай бұрын
First, when a believer starts relying on the study notes than the Bible itself, it becomes an idol. Second, many rely on devotionals but many are written specifically and according to the author. One cannot live on the same thing by the day year after year. For my POV, it keeps one "on track" yet I believe it quenches the Holy Spirit as the Teacher to the Word of God. The intent of the authors may be good but misguided.
@glengovan6496
@glengovan6496 3 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much! Thank you!
@geoffgoddard1296
@geoffgoddard1296 11 ай бұрын
You introduce 2 Timothy 2:15 where it says a "workman" that needeth not be ashamed. I noticed how you gloss over this but to me it is important. Why would there be any shame if our Salvation is assured? I believe it is secure but we are expected to show growth. (2 Peter 3:17-18) "take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ". In this letter, Peter is telling us in no uncertain terms about the importance of making a committed effort to grow in our knowledge and service to God. Does that require us to diligently follow him and his word, after salvation?
@Northlandchurchstc
@Northlandchurchstc 10 ай бұрын
We believe that salvation is by simply trusting in Jesus Christ and that once you have it you can't lose it. We also believe that once you are saved you should grow in the Lord and do good works. However, good works are not a requirement for gaining or keeping salvation. If you would like to know more about this please refer to these messages from Pastor. kzbin.info/aero/PL2B4ebzvFXJCj_oyz4ael4yJHRifJfM-E kzbin.info/aero/PL2B4ebzvFXJDujskMdfehbmnbAC6wC86K
@MarcG7778
@MarcG7778 3 жыл бұрын
Amen! Praise Jesus!🥰🩸✝️👑
@Michael-osas
@Michael-osas Жыл бұрын
Amen Praise the Lord Jesus Christ 😊
@lindasaffles4189
@lindasaffles4189 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing faith and works in light. If works were part of salvation just how much works could save us. Jesus desth would be of no importsnce. 50:11 50:11
@stevemcdonald4400
@stevemcdonald4400 10 ай бұрын
i had the jimmy swaggart suppository bible...lol...in the garbage it went, where it belonged.
@MarcG7778
@MarcG7778 3 жыл бұрын
2nd Listen... This is Paramount! Wow! 45:20
@poetry_is_in_nature1955
@poetry_is_in_nature1955 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome sermon. I have often wondered about getting a study Bible, but am always wary about commentaries. Thank you for this helpful information. I think I will just keep to my KJV Bible, and if I need a good commentary, then I will check out the good ones you mentioned Treasury scripture knowledge, and Thomas Constable commentary. 😊❤🙏
@jordanc1910
@jordanc1910 3 жыл бұрын
Very good message!!
@davidsutter1846
@davidsutter1846 Жыл бұрын
Much needed warning - Pastor! Thanks so much!
@daniellecox7709
@daniellecox7709 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent teaching!
@SOG8014
@SOG8014 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@myname-ns1rp
@myname-ns1rp 2 жыл бұрын
True
@mikeha
@mikeha 2 жыл бұрын
Was Henry Morris a lordship salvationist? Because ICR has been publishing articles by a "Henry M Morris PHD" recently, and every one of them is a lordship salvation message. Is it the same person? He's also quoting out of non KJV bible versions too, and wasn't his study Bible a KJV though? I mean, Henry Morris is dead so I'm not sure who this Henry Morris is at ICR unless they are taking old articles he wrote and republishing them?
@brianmassman6016
@brianmassman6016 Жыл бұрын
Well presented and great admonition. Thank you.
@brianmassman6016
@brianmassman6016 Жыл бұрын
"There is error in the notes" That is my favorite line in this sermon.
@mandm275
@mandm275 10 ай бұрын
Are we not New Creatures when we trust Christ? 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Christ Himself said "Ye must be born again." Is there anyone whose life is not changed when they trust Christ as their Savior? Shouldn't that result in some change of behavior? I realize we all grow at different paces, but to see someone "make a profession of faith and yet never desire God or spiritual things, that certainly brings me pause. I have family members who grew up in church, made professions of faith, were baptized and have no inkling toward God, the Bible, church, etc. They live in very sinful ways, and yes, I'm very concerned about the genuineness of their decision/salvation! I do not think for a moment they can live comfortably in their sin and still be saved. The Holy Spirit grieves when we sin. I realize we can't see the heart, but something should change at some point. Shared via Bible KJV
@Northlandchurchstc
@Northlandchurchstc 10 ай бұрын
We are given the new man/nature at the point of trusting Jesus Christ but we still have our old man/nature. We still have our free will and can choose to yield to either the old man or the new man. There is no guarantee that we will yield to the new man. Ephesians 4: 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. Also see Pastor's message on the two natures. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3XPkImAiLSgqtk
@Studio215official
@Studio215official Жыл бұрын
There are some serious errors in the Schofield study Bible, and I wouldn't trust Strong's concordance for ANYTHING! But honestly, even the study Bible (Henry Morris) and commentary (Matthew Henry) I recommend the most still has errors in it. Ultimately, your best bet is to just stay away from them all and focus on the scriptures themselves.
@allysonp2254
@allysonp2254 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, as always!
@williammarinelli2363
@williammarinelli2363 Жыл бұрын
I am against study Bibles. By adding notes to the pages of Scripture they violate Revelation 22:18. My experience is that when resistance to positions that contradict study Bible notes is based on the simple fact that "my Scofield Bible says so." I often run into (fellow) dispensationalists that are convinced that the book of Daniel mentions Rome, even though Rome is never mentioned in the Biblical text. Sunday School teachers teach that the two legs of the image in Daniel 2 refer Rome - no opinion qualifiers, no maybe's, no perhaps about it. If Rome were actually mentioned in the Bible text they would not be any more convinced. The account the pastor related about his father swallowing the notes in the study Bible is what Rev 22:18 was written to prevent. I've seen unbelievers pick up on "Scripture alone" fundamentalists contradict their stand by reliance on Bible study notes.
@timothyhodges705
@timothyhodges705 2 жыл бұрын
The ESV Study Bible has a commentary on each page, that is in the same model as the John MacArthur Study Bible. Be very careful with that one. The real problem with these commentaries is that they can start programing the readers with presuppostional thinking based on what is written in the commentary.
@jessstone7486
@jessstone7486 Жыл бұрын
Correct. I know that's happened to me. I'm going to have to let Father show me where my thinking went in the wrong direction! I've used the NIV Study bible for years :( In fairness, their notes do include the full scripture.
@TheMistysFavs
@TheMistysFavs 3 жыл бұрын
I just got a Schofield Study Bible..Phew! I feel better now! (Yep Bonded leather too!) I love it. This series is excellent! Thank you, Pastor C!
@Fuzzball777
@Fuzzball777 Жыл бұрын
Another Trojan horse is a teaching from this guys pulpit which is literally no where in scripture but he says it is,pre trib rapture! Try oh please try and ever actually find one verse that clearly says there is a secret rapture befor what Jesus return. He said clearly in matt 24 about when He was coming which is 'after the tribulation' He sends His angels to get His people one time. It's a sad day with men teaching some good teachings and then teaching things that are no where in scripture, oh but you all will still continue following him just like the rest and will be given the judgment due which is deception
@jjsmoley
@jjsmoley Жыл бұрын
Check these other videos from Pastor's on why he believes in a pre-tribulation rapture. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqSTcq2vbZ2WY9E kzbin.info/aero/PL2B4ebzvFXJDKeQpZLnQ_MtiH0jd6cK4w
@graftme3168
@graftme3168 Жыл бұрын
Revelation 5 John sees the redeemed at the throne saying Jesus is worthy to open the seals. They are wearing white robes and crowns, so evidently the church is there and has already received their rewards. I've brought this up on many posts where people argue against the pre rapture view, and never once has anyone ever responded about what that means. Well, one time someone said it was only those who already died but that would mean Jesus married a bride with parts missing.😂
@graftme3168
@graftme3168 Жыл бұрын
Another interesting consideration is that the Bible uses marriage as an example of our relationship to Christ. In the OT, a groom picked up his bride unannounced and took her to his father's house where she is being prepared for the wedding. After the wedding, the groom takes his bride with him to the wedding supper. Tribulation believers will be the guests at the wedding. Jesus called John the Baptist the "friend of the bridegroom." He was the last of the OT prophets. The main problem with interpretation regarding the end, in my view, is that people assume that everyone who is saved is the bride. Can the bride be a guest at her own wedding? Who will Christ and His bride rule and reign over? Revelation reveals that tribulation martyrs will be given a position to serve God at His throne. Evidently they cannot be the bride who is promised to rule and reign with Christ. Jesus said that the church, the bride, will judge Israel. You have to see that in order for God to set up His government, there has to be different positions and ranks. You can't clump everyone together as the bride. If you don't, you will see that it all comes together and makes a whole lot of sense
@laverawoods9174
@laverawoods9174 11 ай бұрын
His "coming" is after the tribulation; no one disputes that, but the "going" of the believers is prior.
@caddyman7725
@caddyman7725 3 жыл бұрын
What would you say about the Thompson Chain Reference Bible? How about Matthew Henry?
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