Norway Says NO!!! Jehovah's Witnesses Court Shenanigans Don't Work

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@chrisarsenaux
@chrisarsenaux Ай бұрын
Oh the irony that watchtower’s letter for reinstatement was rejected, even after they repented! How does it feel?
@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD
@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD Ай бұрын
*They'll have to wait a few months, to write another letter to the Norwegian judicial committee, lol.*
@annemarie19553
@annemarie19553 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kalasatwater2224
@kalasatwater2224 Ай бұрын
The best comment haha
@trkrzwfe
@trkrzwfe Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@reggieb184
@reggieb184 Ай бұрын
Pin this!
@ernestoa5374
@ernestoa5374 Ай бұрын
im 15, PIMO and I love watching yor videos. thank you
@NineOneOneFx
@NineOneOneFx Ай бұрын
You still so young. Hope you become a POMO very soon and enjoy life the way you should.
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 Ай бұрын
Please, please, get advice from your guidance counselor, ect, to help you navigate your escape once you are of age. Start cultivating healthy relationships on the outside of the cult ( you probably have). Make your education a major priority. Save and make as much money as you can. Be CAREFUL NOT TO GET PULLED INTO A DESTRUCTIVE CULT. I would suggest getting a therapist to help with depression anxiety that you may suffer once you totally leave. Being PREPARED will give you a HUGE ADVANTAGE. Just know you are extremely fortunate to have figured this out & you are so close to REAL FREEDOM. GOOD FOR YOU.!!!!!❤.
@Obudzona_
@Obudzona_ Ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@NoFalseTruth
@NoFalseTruth Ай бұрын
I'd recommend starting to form or reinforcing relationships with others outside the cult as best you can. You're going to want people you can talk to. Good luck to you.
@fuzzyh1ghland3r28
@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 Ай бұрын
Stay strong friend . Your gonna go though a lot of heart ache when ya leave but it’s much better to have mental freedom than a slave to a corporation . Stay strong
@dolam
@dolam Ай бұрын
I am very impressed with the government of Norway, having such a clear understanding of the nuance of disfellow shipping. It seems as if they are not missing anything at all, and the watchtower is not fooling them.
@jasminaleksandrajacobsen4789
@jasminaleksandrajacobsen4789 Ай бұрын
This is because the ex jws in Norway have done a very thorough job in explaining this to them and also testifying in court about how they are treated, and then they got to see both disfellowshipped ones or those who left on their own accord, and they saw that they were treated the same. The second court case also had so much testimony that there was no way the court could not see what was going on. The irony is that the jws don’t understand that their arguments are bogus and so easy to see through. They think the way they have gaslit and fooled their members with words will work with the courts. But thankfully it did not. I for one am so proud to be part of the Norwegian ex jw community and have had the chance to be in court in the first court case. It is very encouraging to see all this happen and how what has happened in little Norway has had such effects on the religion as a whole
@b4ph0m3tdk9
@b4ph0m3tdk9 Ай бұрын
The bible talks about removing such people from the congregation, not from the near family, only JW have this disgusting interpretation of where to remove.
@BooBooBugalugs
@BooBooBugalugs Ай бұрын
So glad Norway didnt fall for the crap. There was onviously no change, but i was worried that they would get away with it.
@kymo6343
@kymo6343 Ай бұрын
"We're still totally gonna shun lol but we told everyone they don't HAVE to. Money please!" XD
@harambetidepod1451
@harambetidepod1451 Ай бұрын
Thank you Norway for protecting the most vulnerable!! ❤
@takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771
@takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771 Ай бұрын
I've been through the Norwegian court system. Trust me when I say, Watchtower will never win unless they comply. And in the future, if there is evidence they are sneakily breaching compliance the ramifications are heavy. Norway don't play. They only come for you when they know there's no way you're getting out of the squeeze. It's not like the U.S. where people randomly sue to intimidate others. In Norway, a case only goes to court when you are really guilty. Otherwise, it would have been settled already at the State Administrator level. Watchtower is never getting scot free until they bow. And when they do, it'll open them up to numerous lawsuits of abuse by former members who have documentation of having sought therapy because of being expelled. You'll have video content for years. I love this.
@charrua59
@charrua59 Ай бұрын
I live in Sweden. Swedish police and Norwegian police work together a lot this day's. Also with Danish police. They probably gonna affect each other when it comes to court rulings. So maeby this happens in Sweden also.
@takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771
@takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771 Ай бұрын
@charrua59 I won't be too sure about that. Sweden is influenced by the EU, so won't want to start something that'll cause them to be accused of violating religious freedoms like Russia. If Sweden could, they'd have restricted the persecution and alienation of rebellious Muslim youths by their migrant families, by now.
@summerseverson1267
@summerseverson1267 Ай бұрын
As a Norwegian I can confirm this Norway 🇳🇴
@kymo6343
@kymo6343 Ай бұрын
And once an example has been made of them it's time to do the same in the US.
@elisabethnitter974
@elisabethnitter974 Ай бұрын
@@takeyouryokeandlearnfromme1771 its my impression the jw just pretend. They are rather mad for the money they loose and have little empsthy with theit victims. Their " 2 witness " rule w r to sex victims within the cult should be investigsted. Jw is a heaven for sex offenders. So many stories , so many destroyed children. Government should really look into this. !
@Wideawake4
@Wideawake4 Ай бұрын
Suddenly I have the biggest desire to visit Norway!!!! 🇳🇴 🎉
@robertgrey6101
@robertgrey6101 Ай бұрын
@wideawake Yes, they are worthy of tourists spend $$$ in their country.
@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD
@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD Ай бұрын
The Norwegian government cutting funding to watchtower:🗿
@lovelysosweet8386
@lovelysosweet8386 Ай бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 Ай бұрын
And revoking status. 😊
@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD
@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD Ай бұрын
​@@mattmurdock2868 When SPARLOCK THE WARRIOR WIZARD heard of it, he was overjoyed with such amazing news 😊.
@bevmeier5747
@bevmeier5747 Ай бұрын
❤hi Wally senior who left 2020 at 80.yrs old born in . They are booked to have a court case in Norway in February. 25 I do hope they will be informed about the smoke screen. Hope they will be informed. From Australia. Thanks so.much for the information.
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 Ай бұрын
@bevmeier5747 Wow!!! It is awesome that you were able to leave after so many years!!! Congratulations!!! Many more mature adults are leaving at a record high now. It's very encouraging!!! Good for you. I left after 50 years myself. It can be done.!!!!
@TheCanadiangringa
@TheCanadiangringa Ай бұрын
You give me hope for my parents to leave!!
@ninahardwood2547
@ninahardwood2547 Ай бұрын
Fantastic news - so glad governments are seeing through the JW bs
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp Ай бұрын
One of my best friends growing up never got df'd like i did, because he threatened the elders' lives. He was guilty of much worse stuff than i did but i didn't care if i got df'd, i knew my family wouldn't change anything and i had already made a lot of friends so i laughed at the judicial hearing and even brought another friend with me who they had df'd a few years before me. My other friend who didn't get df'd, his parents still shunned him. Some years later he was engaged to a great girl, had a great job, and then one day blew his brains out. JWs will practice shunning even if someone isn't formally df'd and people take their lives over it. It would be awesome if the new attorney general of the USA investigate Watchtower like Norway has.
@Jaggededge112
@Jaggededge112 Ай бұрын
I doubt he would do anything helpful for anyone for America.
@thomash.schwed3662
@thomash.schwed3662 Ай бұрын
Well, the individual to whom you refer will not become attorney general after all as he has withdrawn his name from consideration. It’s just as well because, given the type of activities with which he himself is said to have been involved over the years, had he not been a politician and instead been one of Jehovah’s witnesses, he very easily could have been an appointed servant in one of the units of the Pensacola Congregation. Consequently, it seems highly unlikely that he would have appointed a special prosecutor to investigate the Society. People of that ilk tend to stick together. The new nominee, also from Florida, is equally unlikely to make any headway with the Society as she’s a woman. And, we all know what the Society has said about women! The only instance of which I’m aware that the Society has made any changes to policy in response to a woman is with regard to the contribution arrangement effective April 1, 1990. That was in response to the majority opinion written by Associate Justice Sandra Day O’Connor in the “Swaggart” case, in which the Society filed an amicus curiae brief in behalf of Jimmy Swaggart. Oh, yes! That case is replete with enjoyable ironies!
@cygnustsp
@cygnustsp Ай бұрын
@@thomash.schwed3662 I wasn't referring to Gaetz, and I don't think the new appointee being a woman is going to matter. If she says JWs are invalid as a legitimate charitable org then they are and they'll have no choice but to acquiesce.
@morganrickards3811
@morganrickards3811 Ай бұрын
LOL you're expecting the new govt admin whose history is CSA and r"cism to GAF LMAO GOOD LUCK 🤞🏾
@MiriamGrant-p5j
@MiriamGrant-p5j Ай бұрын
I can only see that happening if it’s because they don’t like their brand of high control religion.
@carleymichellehildebrand6482
@carleymichellehildebrand6482 Ай бұрын
My sister was 19 when she was thrown out of the house because she was having a relationship with a boy. Literally thrown. With her clothes shoved out the door after her. The boy in question was not a baptized JW but his family were around the religion and he went to meetings. He wasn't the best guy, in my parent's defense, I do want to make that clear. BUT. He did try and have a respectful discourse with our parents which they refused. Their response was, to a 19 year old girl, "if you want him, have him" and they slammed the door behind her. I was 13 looking on in confusion. To this day, my sister's trauma does not allow her to remember the details of that event but it's one of the strongest memories I hold.
@morningglory9288
@morningglory9288 19 күн бұрын
I'm sorry this happened to your sister and you witnessed it. It must have been very traumatic for you. I hate to say it, but some parents don't deserve to have children if they can't love them the way they should be loved... unconditionally.
@licenciadamaria-b2d
@licenciadamaria-b2d Ай бұрын
So glad Norway courts didn’t fall for the bull. I believe this organization will eventually be dismantled.
@micheleprinzi9003
@micheleprinzi9003 Ай бұрын
The governing body is always twisting the schriptures to suit them self
@jessicacaldwell6262
@jessicacaldwell6262 Ай бұрын
You’re right especially with their Blood doctrine … WT organization flip flop on that one still many JW’s lost their lives in the past…😢
@victoriabodien8435
@victoriabodien8435 Ай бұрын
I'm 35 years old. I got disfellowshipped back in 2015 it is really painful and does have a whole lot of affect on me and other people who have been disfellowshipped especially emotionally, and mentally. But I'm lucky that my mom who is still in the organization still keeps in contact with me. She has been a gem . When my kids and I go visit we visit for a good amount of time. A friend of mine who was a Witness recently got disfellowshipped and she was texting my sister and I asking how to navigate this massive change and now we hangout. The shunning policy is ridiculous and I hope eventually this practice will be completely banned. Hey at least the governing body can know what it feels like to get banned and get something taken away from them like they did with tons and families. But as a mom of 2 young kids I'm happy my children don't have to be raised in that organization. As much as shunning hurts I'm glad I'm out and have way more support and genuine friends more than I did in the congregation. Greetings to you Wally. Love your content. 😊
@hustonmices3976
@hustonmices3976 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately their only interest is money as they have shown and not the well being of the members
@mygitR
@mygitR Ай бұрын
So glad for you getting out quite a while back! But be careful though! Not that you might get your relatives or friends who are still in inadvertently into trouble with the elders/the borg. It's not just XJWs who watch XJW videos. Better use a more anonymous KZbin channel or handle when talking in detail about friends or family that are still in...😬 Gotta remember it's still 1984 in the borg! 😉
@emmasmith2136
@emmasmith2136 Ай бұрын
It's 3:20am and I can't sleep. This is what I needed. Thanks Wally 🙏🏻 🇺🇸 🇳🇴
@ravenblackwing7888
@ravenblackwing7888 Ай бұрын
Same lol
@kristycrabb6560
@kristycrabb6560 Ай бұрын
Same
@kristycrabb6560
@kristycrabb6560 Ай бұрын
It's 3:12 in alabama
@Bikerman2022
@Bikerman2022 Ай бұрын
A very civilised 8:45 pm here in AU
@ravenblackwing7888
@ravenblackwing7888 Ай бұрын
@@Bikerman2022 lucky bastard 😞
@fleebottomresident3494
@fleebottomresident3494 Ай бұрын
That August Watchtower as infuriating to read! Five full lessons to basically say that it is now ok to greet someone if they come to the hall… BUT NOTHING MORE THAN A GREETING! That issue of the Watchtower needs to go down in history as one of the worst! I can’t imagine sitting through five weeks of this drivel and nonsense!
@BruceLeeR1-2103
@BruceLeeR1-2103 Ай бұрын
In the last few years the WT articles have become insufferable.
@DianePantig
@DianePantig Ай бұрын
They can choose to greet you at the kingdom hall.Once you step foot outside they will have nothing to do with you. Nothing has changed!
@kymo6343
@kymo6343 Ай бұрын
Its infuriating but it's also hilarious. They're telling on themselves AGAIN. It's eventually gonna get taken down like the Shunning video for the exact same reasons bc they did not learn the lesson at ALL...
@GlitterBrigade
@GlitterBrigade Ай бұрын
@@DianePantigthey are going to start to say it’s a matter of conscience
@tymwillpass1592
@tymwillpass1592 Ай бұрын
@@DianePantigfr. It’d almost be more awkward to go. Imagine being said hi to and asked how are u and you’d start balling yr eyes out cuz these people haven’t talked to u in months/years and then they have to excuse themselves cuz they overdid it. Meanwhile everyone watching to make sure it doesn’t cross the socializing border
@roxasdeviluke317
@roxasdeviluke317 Ай бұрын
They really thought the Norway government was gonnna be like “wow you guys treat your ex members like trash for no reason? Have some money!”
@WatchtowerHunter
@WatchtowerHunter Ай бұрын
God bless the Norwegian government for seeing right through the Watchtower.
@dominicesposito4394
@dominicesposito4394 Ай бұрын
Yes! Absolutely! But there is no God
@WatchtowerHunter
@WatchtowerHunter Ай бұрын
@ An odd forum to espouse your atheism. I don’t agree but to each his own.
@lastdogdays8940
@lastdogdays8940 Ай бұрын
This infuriates me bc I was shunned (disfellowshipped) WITHOUT being baptized! They do whatever the hell they want to do, and yes I lost all contact with everyone except my mom at 17, and kicked out of the house. And my mom only talked to me to tell me how terrible I was. Again I was UNBAPTIZED
@KnownNolaDago
@KnownNolaDago Ай бұрын
The "Disassociation" trick
@alexisdawson8003
@alexisdawson8003 Ай бұрын
It’s crazy how my family is constantly attempting to reach out to get me to their cult meeting stating I can sit with them but they can’t have a conversation just encourage me to return. Sent them to voicemail the way they did me
@kymo6343
@kymo6343 Ай бұрын
"Okay okay you can sit with us just don't talk to us okay? We want the JWs to think we're trying to convert you but we don't want them to think we actually love you or anything like that lol."
@barrettleigh5118
@barrettleigh5118 Ай бұрын
🤮
@elisabethnitter974
@elisabethnitter974 Ай бұрын
Maybe we should just pass them ikke silence. Why bother to make them behave with normal politeness. Their shunning policy is evil. Nothing else. They believe in a god that allows them to behave so bad and that they are an elite. Isnt that a bit rasistic or fasistic?
@Jenniferbouta
@Jenniferbouta Ай бұрын
My husband died by suicide he told me he felt so alone the day he died he was disfellowshipped and repeatedly denied being reinstated
@georgebrown8312
@georgebrown8312 Ай бұрын
I am sorry to hear of your husband having committed suicide after being shunned.
@sarahbelyeu6461
@sarahbelyeu6461 Ай бұрын
Wally, you’re so awesome. Deeply appreciate this breakdown. As you say, this shunning absolutely alters your reality, and in my experience, does something incredibly sinister to children: we grow up knowing that the people that claim to love us will abandon us simply for choosing not to embrace the religion. If this isn’t psychological torture, I don’t know what is, and bravo to the government of Norway for recognizing this.
@Opinionated_Observer
@Opinionated_Observer Ай бұрын
The "No Blood Doctrine" should also be scrutinized by the governments as it is a matter of life or death for JW's specially for children of JW's.
@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim
@EL-IZ-At-BETH-sarim Ай бұрын
Thanks, Wally👍🏼😊🇳🇱 And you're right! I left before the pandemic. The changes are shocking...😮 And the world has changed as well: more cult-awareness, lots of CSA cases and people leaving organised religion. AKA 'The light is shining brighter and brighter' on high control groups. Mid 2025 the Netherlands will have 'stichting Fier', a reporting and help point for victims and relatives of cults and high control groups. "You can see these things happening" (october broadcast)🤣 🎵🎶"And isn't it ironic..."🎶🎵
@MaryWallace-wv2bn
@MaryWallace-wv2bn Ай бұрын
The “humans” in Norway deserve this money! Not the cults
@kjetilhvalstrand1009
@kjetilhvalstrand1009 Ай бұрын
True, but if there is no offering, we wont have any power over the cults, so you see there is a logic to this.
@elliesambrook5929
@elliesambrook5929 Ай бұрын
Great to woke up to GREAT news xxThank you
@RiverDanube
@RiverDanube Ай бұрын
“What the offender may not do, however, is to speak to non family Witnesses who call” Just incredible. The deed person has been cast out of the religion but the religion still continues to expect that they follow their rules.
@natashapeeters988
@natashapeeters988 Ай бұрын
Hello Wally, when I dissasociated myself from JW'S CULT, I was still in my home/family and was shunned even my little sister was traumatized because she wasn't allowed to talk to me. Shunning is happening at homes 🏡 😳... it was difficult for me and her, I was the only one who was able to help her with her school homework... etc...,etcetera!!!
@nathaliejoseph4068
@nathaliejoseph4068 Ай бұрын
Si sad I hope you both recover well
@alfred5048
@alfred5048 Ай бұрын
We now invite deadbeat JWs to meetings and even say hello to them. Now give us our money already!
@Polyglot-Family_Familienkanal
@Polyglot-Family_Familienkanal Ай бұрын
I love your videos! Thank you so much! Greetings from Germany!
@BigGamePlayer-hi9lu
@BigGamePlayer-hi9lu Ай бұрын
Nice to see Norway have seen straight through the poxy changes made by the GB. The fundamentals to the practice of disfellowshipping are the same.... The people handling the case for Norway are trained professionals . Researching the JWs by using their own library and videos against them! 😂
@AmyM-te3tu
@AmyM-te3tu Ай бұрын
Impressive video, woow..great information! Cheers a person up.
@FishGAMER-R6Z
@FishGAMER-R6Z Ай бұрын
Love you Wally keep up the good work
@helenr4300
@helenr4300 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this news. Go Norway - the right to follow a religion without discrimination; and the equal right to leave a religion without punitive effects. Nothing Norway did stopped JWs meeting and worshipping; nor 'the preaching work'. Not all religions are registered - eg I believe Mormons chose not to be (maybe over the secret temple stuff and informed consent ??) The loss of the subsidy was a chunk of money; but the level of legal appeals and tweaks to policy suggests a concern beyond just that cheque...
@mbproject22
@mbproject22 Ай бұрын
LOL oh well. Guess they'll just have to "leave it in Jehovah's hands" as they always love to say.
@jaredhall5996
@jaredhall5996 Ай бұрын
F*** yeah!!!!
@summerseverson1267
@summerseverson1267 Ай бұрын
I love 💕 u 😊
@tomjamison5934
@tomjamison5934 Ай бұрын
Thanks Wally for another Fantastic video. Have a Beautiful weekend. 🌟
@ellaiaon
@ellaiaon Ай бұрын
❤love your videos,work
@Firewoman12
@Firewoman12 Ай бұрын
Thank you once again Wally for all your hard work & all you do for our community. Love your videos. ❤
@tymion2470
@tymion2470 Ай бұрын
I can't watch it right now so I don't know all the details but that sounds amazing!
@truelove2334
@truelove2334 Ай бұрын
Check out their manipulative, double talk in this paragraph, 10:04 “Previously, we {meaning, collectively} would not greet such a person” and in the very next sentence they say, “Here too… {as if everybody’s been making their own decisions all along}…each individual must use his or her Christian conscience to choose what he or she wants to do”, even as they are telling them what to do 🤦🏽‍♀️
@cicelyryan4402
@cicelyryan4402 Ай бұрын
It is so good to hear this, Wally😊. Thank you.❤
@KingoftheNorth56
@KingoftheNorth56 Ай бұрын
At the 24 minute mark you said: Boy Howdy!🤣 That was actually the name of a beer brand from the 70’s that I would always see rock stars drinking on the magazine cover of Circus, which would come out monthly…Thanks for the update 👍
@raijagullmes802
@raijagullmes802 Ай бұрын
I'm apostate. One sunning video is removed, but everyone JW is still shunning me.
@samanthalanza1874
@samanthalanza1874 Ай бұрын
Thank You for not giving up in standing up for the emotional,mental, and physical rights of witnesses who have grown up inside. We are a group forgotten and alone ,,,as in general our parents do not relate to our plight.
@susanbardfeld4147
@susanbardfeld4147 Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. This is a disturbing and disgusting act by the JW organization
@mightbephil
@mightbephil Ай бұрын
looks like the nu lite wasnt bright enough ☺️
@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD
@SPARLOCK_THE_WARRIOR_WIZARD Ай бұрын
Nah, Jehovah's chariot was on the move again.
@deejay1216
@deejay1216 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 Ай бұрын
JW=Just Wakeup. ❤
@BooBooBugalugs
@BooBooBugalugs Ай бұрын
Or, Just Walk (away)
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 Ай бұрын
@BooBooBugalugs Fight For All Lives 2025.
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 Ай бұрын
Hopefully, one day soon, JW =Just Wokeup...
@lieblingmike
@lieblingmike Ай бұрын
Jehovah's Witlesses!
@latishabennett702
@latishabennett702 Ай бұрын
Yes 😂❤
@talina2020
@talina2020 Ай бұрын
That is awesome, great, cheeers 🍾🥂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@TheCanadiangringa
@TheCanadiangringa Ай бұрын
Thanks again Wally!!
@LilithLiberated
@LilithLiberated Ай бұрын
You realize that their “correction” just ended up reaffirming that everything they were condemned for is exactly correct. I love this for them.
@Pioneiracarcomida
@Pioneiracarcomida Ай бұрын
Thanks from Brazil 🎉🎉🎉🎉excelent notice
@alans.wendelschafer6588
@alans.wendelschafer6588 Ай бұрын
10:10 So they admit blatantly that they (the organization) gets to decide what you will or won't allow you to do.
@KULT_OF_SCIENTOLOGY
@KULT_OF_SCIENTOLOGY Ай бұрын
9:00 This is "The True Religion..." It just happens to sound and read like a Multi-million Dollar Law-Firm. I thought Jesus was a Carpenter? Odd isn't it.
@latishabennett702
@latishabennett702 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 ok
@markmidgley2936
@markmidgley2936 Ай бұрын
Fantastic video Wally.. Spot on.. Keep it up 👍
@trashteamracing8262
@trashteamracing8262 Ай бұрын
GB: We've recently received New Light. Disfellowshipping is no longer required, in Norway.
@georgeporgy7568
@georgeporgy7568 Ай бұрын
I just wish they would loose tax exempt status. Along with any churches who back Political candidates here.
@LeannSalinovich
@LeannSalinovich Ай бұрын
I believe we need to put together a class action law suit because of the shunning we have endured. 42 yrs out and still have trauma due to the treatment I received
@philip4790
@philip4790 Ай бұрын
Fantastic news!! It’s so funny all the gov bod would need to do is confirm the minimum age for baptism as 18. They can’t do that though as it affects their entrapment policy of children into a cult before they can think for themselves. Go Norway!
@ManlikeMarcC
@ManlikeMarcC Ай бұрын
Welcome back.
@dolam
@dolam Ай бұрын
His dreams were his ticket out
@tobuscusfoop
@tobuscusfoop Ай бұрын
2:17 I remember talking to my relatives about how pharasaical the dress and grooming code was. People like lumberjacks NEED a beard to keep warm and for years Watchtower basically told them , ”tough luck.” Not only that but having to wear fancy clothes limits how many people can attend a church.
@jessicacaldwell6262
@jessicacaldwell6262 Ай бұрын
WT organization is getting back the same New light except it’s coming from the Norway Government and it’s not in WT organization favor….🤣
@suziekew33
@suziekew33 Ай бұрын
Hi, Wally and Zeezy! Very Happy to see you do a Hearty Hand Clap at the beginning of this video! I was missing those! Love your videos! 😀❤⭐❤⭐❤
@Chopin_JT
@Chopin_JT Ай бұрын
"Do some laundry agressively!" 😅
@elainebraindrain3174
@elainebraindrain3174 Ай бұрын
Thx wally, well done, go norway😊
@DanganHarmony
@DanganHarmony Ай бұрын
W NORWAY THATS WHY THEYRE THE GOAT THE GOOOAAATTTT‼️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
@RickT3
@RickT3 Ай бұрын
Love that country.
@rileyjordan9072
@rileyjordan9072 Ай бұрын
getting disfellowshiped is a badge of honor for me. the elder's daughter got private reproof.😂
@ginagamba
@ginagamba Ай бұрын
"Used your Christian conscience," doesn't really work when their conscience has been twisted by the cult and these parents too often choose the cult ovver their own children to the detriment OF those children for doing what teenagers do outside the confines of their religion.
@cindyjohnson7883
@cindyjohnson7883 Ай бұрын
Hello Wally 👋 thank you!!😅
@KnownNolaDago
@KnownNolaDago Ай бұрын
I was baptized as a JW at 13 years old 40 years ago. I am a prime example of how ridiculous it is to expect someone as I was pressured personally to get baptized at such a young age to then deal with those consequences of their actions by leaving for the remainder of their lives. Everyone that I knew was a Jehovah's Witness as we all know we were forbidden to have "worldly"Friends or associates unless it was regarding an emergency or work, and even then we were to set ourselves apart and not be too friendly. Here I am 40 years later, with children, haven't been born into my family that are now grown-ups with children of their own, that I've never met all because of JW preaching, rules, and regulations that they are now Changing to stay relevant and seem less strict knowing that if they don't, they will soon no longer exist because with today's technologies, you are able to see how much of a cult the JW organization actually is.
@Mary-t2p6p
@Mary-t2p6p Ай бұрын
I was raised strict Catholic and my father disinherited me publicly at a businessman’s breakfast when I had a pregnancy out of marriage. I became a jw but didn’t realize how bad this gets in the jw world because I was considered poor association due to being a single Mother and got held at arms length the whole time anyway. I’m glad watchtower got their ass handed to them for this shady heartbreaking practice. They’ll find a way around it tho just like they did with me. I was pioneering and they still acted like I was poor association. It’s a mean organization
@jaredscott367
@jaredscott367 Ай бұрын
I'm in portland oregon, if you need a friend, or someone to talk to, DM me. I got out, its gonna be ok
@FishGAMER-R6Z
@FishGAMER-R6Z Ай бұрын
My sister tried to off bill herself in a park and she lived across the road from the KH
@AmyM-te3tu
@AmyM-te3tu Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that, so sad, hope she got the proper help and on the road to recovery and healing.
@greyberet1
@greyberet1 Ай бұрын
What do you mean by “off bill”? Serious question.
@BruceLeeR1-2103
@BruceLeeR1-2103 Ай бұрын
I think it means what you think it means yeah 😢
@greyberet1
@greyberet1 Ай бұрын
@@BruceLeeR1-2103 I just implied that I DON’T know what it means…
@nor-wayking6757
@nor-wayking6757 Ай бұрын
In my country we don't tolerate extreme religion.
@LibrePensador12
@LibrePensador12 Ай бұрын
Thanks Norway! I'm pro freedom...if a witness wants to stay in the organization, do that, you're free to practice your faith.
@JwRetroverdad
@JwRetroverdad Ай бұрын
The Norwegian government was very attentive. They even understood that the changes regarding expulsion were because JW was acting badly, just as Norway was telling them. amazing!
@reneesalvatori1996
@reneesalvatori1996 Ай бұрын
Boy I wonder what Brother Brumley (attorney) thought of that decision since he sits on the CSCE which is UK’s version of an NGO. He fights for JW’s religious freedom, while no freedom inside the organization. This decision is just gold.
@lh1673
@lh1673 Ай бұрын
Imagine, being said from a religious group “You can ONLY say Hello to your former members”😅JWs, Why can’t ya ask your Tops, can we at least have CUP of COFFEE and COOKIES together!?😅
@natashapeeters988
@natashapeeters988 Ай бұрын
It goes deep...
@heidislettemo7551
@heidislettemo7551 Ай бұрын
🇧🇻 doesnt fall for the BS! 😊 Hi from Norway. Hei fra Norge. 👍
@ajnooneslistening6134
@ajnooneslistening6134 Ай бұрын
WT GB thinks all people are simple minded, and wouldn’t figure out their strategy 🤪
@georgebrown8312
@georgebrown8312 Ай бұрын
Apparently, the Watchtower Society has seriously underestimated Norway's ability to see through their tap dancing and word gymnastics.
@alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
@alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 Ай бұрын
Considering Norway took this stance, what is going to be really fascinating about this now is whether the bOrg makes yet another change in rapid succession to try again. Because if they do that, there is no objective person on the planet who could deny they are doing it strictly for the money.
@markperry9427
@markperry9427 Ай бұрын
So where does this leave them on "Jehovah will always look after his people, any weapon formed against them will not succeed " 🤔🤔
@Pioneiracarcomida
@Pioneiracarcomida Ай бұрын
I love Norway❤
@buckrogers8214
@buckrogers8214 Ай бұрын
This cult create narcissists like a baker puts out muffins on Sunday morning.. just think about that dynamic. All the while you're growing up seeing people shunned and thrown away like garbage if they don't go along to get along or even ask the wrong questions. So when you're even a little kid you're pretending to be good according to their standards and you don't really feel it and you're just being a cookie cutter fit in with everybody else playing pretend because you don't want to lose everything you love in life. Just think about all the skeletons that people hide in their closets just to avoid shunning. And these things eat away at your soul because you know you got to keep them to yourself. You end up this Halo fake human being with all this dirty laundry and all this shame. And isn't that what it comes down to? All that shame just turned you into an actor who's not a genuine friend but a conditional friend and family and friends are all fake because you have to play the game. It is a unique and awful trauma. Even God didn't hold a gun to somebody's head and forced them to be his friends. And from the viewpoint of a young person how is holding a gun to their head and shunning different?
@BruceLeeR1-2103
@BruceLeeR1-2103 Ай бұрын
So so true Buck Rogers. There's three types of witnesses: the miserable, the self-righteous bullies, the dumb. I think the ones you mentioned fit into the miserable. The miserable can be PIMO or POMI or even PIMI. JW is just another trap designed to draw people away from the Christ. What a terrible life!
@jessicacaldwell6262
@jessicacaldwell6262 Ай бұрын
As a born in JW I know about this shunning practice my older brother got D’fd I knew not to get baptized but I fell into the 1975 crap and got baptized 3 years later I disassociate never was D’fd or Reproved till today I’m shunned because WT label me as an Apostate go figure ….Lol 🤔🤣
@AnitaMoney-r8d
@AnitaMoney-r8d Ай бұрын
JW is same horse different jockey
@tammyg8031
@tammyg8031 Ай бұрын
Lol. Great analogy 👏 ❤
@CoffeeAddictEvan
@CoffeeAddictEvan Ай бұрын
Same cow, different pile
@latishabennett702
@latishabennett702 Ай бұрын
Yes 😃 nice illustration 👍🏽
@georgebrown8312
@georgebrown8312 18 күн бұрын
Same harmful practices different terminology. It's all the same.
@Deafmachine23
@Deafmachine23 Ай бұрын
I've been pomo fur over 15 years and still shunned...... They won't pick up a single phone call or text message from me....... But I'll be damned If they ever need help they call and text me immediately...... That's one of the subclosets to that arrangement that no one talks about is the religion is completely fine with encouraging their people to use you for what you can give them but then go right back to shunning you
@MiriamTV2
@MiriamTV2 Ай бұрын
I just read the weirdest post in an ex-JW group about there being no dogs in paradise, anyone else ever heard of something like that? They referred to "dogs being the worst" to Muslims. I recall seeing recent illustrations of the police state they call paradise, where a man in khaki pants walks a dog on a leash. Then again, might just be a person of less... Fries on the plate, as we say,
@pinkdeckenergy
@pinkdeckenergy Ай бұрын
Sorry I’m not seeing any links in the description for the other videos. What titles should I look for? Edit: oops nevermind found the playlist 😁
@itsjustme6315
@itsjustme6315 Ай бұрын
🎉 Finally, they've been outed 😅 and their bullshit is exposed!!🎉🎉🎉
@janespitfire9884
@janespitfire9884 Ай бұрын
I like your videos Wally! Thank you. Have you seen the 5 YT videos by active JW. Interesting but confused messy stuff.
@Mgtow1957
@Mgtow1957 Ай бұрын
I was raised in that religion. My mother insisted that I not date at 16. "No girlfriends." Guys were okay to hang with. The society even imposed that rule from the platform. I noticed in Highschool the Witnesses were dating some were sneaking and some weren't. Of course this messed me up later psychologically. Now I did get my share of women later I was a late bloomer. But at 68 years old and no children- they want me to die alone and depend on them only if I got so many hours in the field service. Most of the rules the Witnesses come up with are not in the Bible and that's why they get into so much trouble legally.
@danielcolla4530
@danielcolla4530 Ай бұрын
great news, face lifting is not solving the fundamental solving the problem.
@TCrouch2596
@TCrouch2596 Ай бұрын
Does this cult ever get tired of embarrassing themselves?🤔
@dolam
@dolam Ай бұрын
Wally, how far do you think the witnesses will go when it comes to changing their doctrine on disfellow shipping in order to keep their status as a religion in Norway?
@SisterSolitaire
@SisterSolitaire Ай бұрын
Proud of my neighbor county. 🇩🇰🇳🇴
@theconqueringram5295
@theconqueringram5295 Ай бұрын
I hope this causes a snowball effect. I hope more governments breathe down the Governing Body's neck and put them under scrutiny. Also, I hope more exJWs are encourage to be more active against Watch Tower and maybe go through the legal process themselves. I was never a Jehovah's Witness, but I don't have to be to know this cult caused real harm to real people. I hope we are in the last days of the last days of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
@rhistarr5146
@rhistarr5146 Ай бұрын
Shocking. But it was such a clever ruse. 🤭
@watchandjewelryloft4713
@watchandjewelryloft4713 Ай бұрын
Expect more deleted shunning videos and more "changes" from the god that never changes. 😂
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