Nosgoth News Network - 18th June 2023 - Embracer Updates

[@Mangomesh]

I appreciate the news, I'm itching for something related to Legacy of Kain to be released. That series got me through some difficult times in my life. So if they release some remasters or even a remake, I'll buy.

[@LH2608]

I can't imagine a more difficult game to make than Legacy of Kain though. So much history and such a convoluted plot (we love it), it'd be really hard to to do it justice.

[@soulreaver1983]

Always outstanding to see a video about this fantastic series many thanks my friend!😎👍

[@deerdossun1680]

Thank you so so much for such thorough updates.

[@hokagefuuton]

Congratulations for keep Legacy alive for all this time. I met this game since 2006 And for me, one of the best storyline, character.

[@Dr.Luckyshot]

Thank you for keeping us updated with the latest news. Just a small correction if you don't mind: Gollum was published by Nacon, not Embracer. Keep up the good work you all.

[@bazlmoon]

Thanks for the sentiments. Regarding Gollum I was careful to avoid saying published because I know they didnt publish it, but as owners of the LOTR IP they are ultimately responsible for what goes ahead under the LOTR name. That's what I was getting at.

[@Reawer]

thank you for all your work

[@TungstenViper]

Crystal Dynamics is still the designated developers for any kind of Lok project that could have been or is in production, so they shouldn't be affected by this situation.

[@sirus660]

I'd rather see a remake than a new game, unless they got Amy Hennig back to finish the story.

[@Mcl_Blue]

Amy's a little too busy now presiding over her own studio, the odds of her having any availability to write a new LoK anytime soon are extremely low.

[@Glaiceana]

They simply cannot ignore that huge number of survey answers! At least we all continue to stick together :) Need to have a fan meetup/mini con!

[@MiiDev69]

You are doing god's (Not the elder) work

[@luciusdebeers6176]

Yeah f that guy

[@27kmaster]

unfortunately with no idea on their plans for LOK there are two scenarios possible by embracer, any production work for an LOK game would have been in its early stages so this setback for them could have them either cancel production to save more money OR double down on the production to bring out an actual game that could sell and get them some cash back

[@MintyCoolness]

I agree, with the only caveat being that I think the latter situation is more likely. The crystal dynamics survey did have an amazing turnout and response, after all. They'll most likely wanna bank on that to recoup~

[@DatCrazyOokamii]

reboot.. re-reboot? re-re-reboot? re-re-re-re? I laughed so hard

[@romanofrancopio-po3tb]

Good Luck Raziel

[@LaylaSpellwind]

Look on the bright side, we might not get a cancelled project. We might get a team pvp arena game. *Sighs indefinitely*

[@DatCrazyOokamii]

I again clicked SO FAST Please keep it coming

[@Evilriku13]

So what's the current state of the Legacy of Kain "Rebirth" project or whatever you guys call the beta or originally unfinished version?

[@RainaAudron]

There is a SR1 decompile in progress and also a tool called Recombobulator as well. They will take time to be finished.

[@HeavyMetalDriver]

I love Soul Reaver. Love the channel to. Keep up the great work!

[@NOKIA-vq2dx]

so its the hope kain talking about?

[@greenraptor3017]

Okay ill be honest, I didn't know Embracer Group owned the Saints Row reboot and the Gollum game, that's news to me. A shame those games fell into disappointment (especially Saints Row as me and my siblings grew up with the original game series) so by hearing this, it seems they were at least humbled by all of this as well as background business as you've mentioned Raina.😅 As for future plans apart from the Tomb Raider and Future Dark confirmation; I really do hope that they'll at least put in some interest or some ideas into the Legacy of Kain series as there's still so much potential for a new Legacy of Kain games for the modern game industry and community, since they most definitely have supplies from the series to either make a continuation of Defiance (like Dark Prophecy before cancellation which in my opinion should be revisited for potential future ideas) or a remake of the series (since we're in the Video-game remake Era) but only time will tell with Embracer Group and hopefully we'll hear some news soon Sorry for the long comment, great to hear from you again Raina, thanks you, you are amazing👍 (Edit-typo)

[@RainaAudron]

They haven't commissioned Gollum but they own the rights to LOTR so that wasn't the best... We'll have to wait and see what they'll do with the series. Thanks for watching 👍 Just to be clear, that's Baz doing NNN and basically all the recent videos on his own for my channel. I'm still here and reading all the comments, but don't have time to make videos at the moment 🙃

[@greenraptor3017]

@@RainaAudron That's fine, don't worry, I'm just glad to hear more news for Legacy of Kain in this day of age, it's my favourite Video-game series since childhood so I'm always happy to see more content. As for Gollum, I've only learnt this now so again this is new to me so thanks you for clarifying that to me (I was a little confused on that sorry)😅 Hope everything goes well for you all and stay safe, thanks you👍

[@righteousone8454]

As long as they don't scrap Legacy of Kain, it's all good. I worry about Legacy of Kain

[@LaylaSpellwind]

Raina, I should watch your channel more often. Also, I spy a gatomon plushy in the background. I have the same one. I cut her arms free from her sides though.

[@AnonYmous-hj1tb]

So LoK has been bought by the guys behind Gollum? Fucking awesome. Staying dead would have been the best choice once again

[@bazlmoon]

Kinda -but it's a bit more complex and nuanced than that. The holding group that bought the rights to LoK -who also own tonnes of other major IPs - recently bought the rights to the entire LoTR franchise and inherited with that purchase several in development projects including Gollum that was going on at Nacom and Daedalic Entertainment. They elected to pursue and 'hands off' approach and let the devs and publishers just get on with it...just like they did with Saints Row... and just like SR, it ended badly and they've now committed to being more up front and hands on with the IP's they own.

[@AnonYmous-hj1tb]

@bazlmoon Yeah its definitely pretty convoluted, and if I was paranoid I'd say that sounds like what a puppet company stealthy birthed from another one would do to damage and remove from the big playground tired IPs and make their barely active fan bases starve and be cooked for new releases in a far future

[@zion6680]

Here's one thing that is really important to me, if they are going to bring the games back. I really hope, that they'll keep the series STYLIZED okay... Like, I'm sorry. I just don't want to a see a Legacy of Kain game that looks like Uncharted... That's just my opinion. I'm not saying Uncharted because Amy Hennig worked on that, I'm saying it's the graphical style, and the design. I don't want to see, hyper realistic, photo real Legacy of Kain. I know Defiance was going in that direction, but it still had a unique aesthetic. Dead Sun and Nosgoth fell into the trap of making things look as realistic as something like Gears of War, and it just doesn't need that. Here's what I think. If Legacy of Kain were to come back, I think they should look at games like League of Legends, to get an idea of what kind of aesthetic to go for, or something like that. World of Warcraft, Diablo maybe, or even just the previous games in the LOK series. I wanna see, weird designs - Like, give people freaky long chins, big bushy brows - Idk. Don't aim for a million triangles per model piece, I'm so sick of things aiming to look like the real world. I want to use my imagination dangit. And I feel like someone like Amy Hennig and devs of the older games should be able to understand that on some level... Heck I'd even be fine with them only spending the money you might on an indie title... Please, no AAA cookie cutter stuff 😤 I don't want to have to play the game on a 3090 or an RTX card, and I don't give a crap about raytracing lol If they go the route of making it really realistic, they should aim for the GlyphX renders (I don't remember if that's what that team was called, I'm having an early onset senior moment..)

[@विनितकुमार-य5ढ]

Well well hope they don't go to micro transacts as an answer to how to make money. I just hope we get the dark prophecy game finally with dlcs lasting 2-3 years and they take another 3 years making a remake or two ALIONG with releasing the original games upscaled/cleaned up and maine adding left out content as optional. Make it separately buyable. Man the series is so obscure/eccentric its hard to move anywhere and to have too much expectations like we could get an lok game in name. But who knows how it actually be, worse it turns out to be commercualy succesful but actually lacking in the delivery of fan expected stuff. Interesting to say the least. I will happily wait this out.

[@kaporal890]

I rather the LoK saga untouched than ruined by a shitty new game.