Not a good start to the New Year (S8 E30)

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for y'all's advice everyone! Back in August 2024 I purchased this LTS and a Lew's CL SS for Season 8. I wanted to see how the Bates compares to the new shallow spool from Lew's. I'm not sponsored by either brand so no hidden agenda. Both reels were purchased with my own hard earned cash. No discounts were given either. My hope is that this is a fluke with the $400 reel. If the issue persists then it'll be a shame for needing the end user to correct the problem. At the price point for both reels, they should perform flawlessly when they're well taken care of. I'm reading in y'all's comments that this a common issue with baitcasters in cold and or warm weather. After fishing fulltime for 8 years, I have yet to experience this with a Shimano or Lew's. I mention these two brands because they're what I have used since going full time. I have since moved on from Shimano as Lew's baitcasters have performed better for me. Full disclosure, I was sponsored reels from Lew's for a two year period and I fell in love with the Custom Lite. Fast forward to present day, I'm no longer sponsored and I purchase all my reels. I take great care to not dunk or splash them while fishing the salt. I feel it's important for anyone who isn't a regular of the channel to have some context about me. Fishing is my profession, it's all I do on a daily and I have no other job to pull me away from the water.

[@sidewinder-nf9qm]

Been watching this channel for a few years now, you are the best kayak anglers to tune in to

[@rayhamilton1337]

Love watching your channel. Your content is really good.

[@waterloofishing]

400!?!! Dude … that shouldn’t be happening for sure

[@bobway1100]

The grease on your anti-lock mechanism got cold and thick. Simply cleaning off Factory grease and put on something thinner will fix the problem. I've been using Shimano Curado's for 35 years. I own about 30 of them. Has happened to me many times. Hope it helps!

[@claytonsurginer2003]

Your spool slipping is actually due to your anti reverse bearing acting up, whether it due to the cold, humidity or water accidentally getting past the handle, super common in ALL bait casting reels. Take it down to your local repair shop and get it replaced, or next time you’re out on the water it will happen again. Regardless of how many times it doesn’t act up on you at the house. Don’t over think it bud

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for the tip, I'll keep an eye on it. Once our weather warms up, I’ll know for sure. Thanks again, I really appreciate your help. 🙌

[@claytonsurginer2003]

Of course! Only speaking from pure experience, all of my lews have run into this problem, wish I didn’t have to say that but it’s an issue I’ve run into time and time again! Tight lines!

[@Alx28516]

The grease could be cold (thick) and sticking the antireverse mechanism. Mark para la casa esta bien frio, brother!

[@Alx28516]

Me pasaba mucho cuando estaba pescando en los Grandes lagos. Puedes si quieres usar grasa de lithium. Pero busca que pueda durar con el frío. La grasa blanca también ayuda porque cuando se ensucia es tiempo de limpiar el reel y ponerle grasa nueva. Algún día pesco contigo aya en Houston, Texas City dios quiera pueda aprender de ti, mucho más.. Si te toca visitar en sneads ferry aquí estoy para pescar. Buena suerte mantente en casa por aora con la linda familia esperando que se vaya este jodido 🥶 ! Con cuidado Mark y siempre buena suerte, tight línea!!

[@MDLRFishing]

Thank you 🙏

[@TheInshoreOutdoorsman]

Mark, a few tips that might make your trip less miserable, you pulled up to the spot directly from the launch and spot lock yourself there facing the wind the whole time. What i would of done is gone around to the other side and kept your back to the wind. also to your left the deep water continues. if i were you i woud of also tried to work the drop offs of that channel and used that island to protect me from wind while doing it.

[@MDLRFishing]

Appreciate the advice, I did fish the channel that you mentioned to take refuge but didn’t get any bites. Went back to the hole for a quick minute and then retreated into the residential channel. It was pretty miserable even with the wind at my back. Thanks for watching bro 🙏 and for the helpful tips.

[@reysalinas5357]

Was causing the problem in your fishing Reel is that you're a one way clutch has grease on it and in cold weather grease is too thick not allowing the one way clutch to do his job. You would have to disassemble and remove the grease from the one way clutch.

[@MDLRFishing]

Appreciate the advice, thanks for taking the time to help all of us reading the comments!!!

[@williamcordell2921]

Check the reel grease to see if it is getting stiff in the cold. I have had that happen in the past.

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for the heads up!

[@marcelinorodriguez9315]

💯 percent dedication. That reel needs to be returned.

[@DarrenEllinger]

God Bless ya Brother for braving the elements,just to cold for this old man,

[@MDLRFishing]

Much appreciated

[@DriftAwayOutdoors]

I know a few Asian grocery stores around town when you can just go buy a freshly caught fish. No need to freeze out there. 😂

[@MDLRFishing]

😂😂😂🙌

[@jesuslara4299]

I just bought a salty hundo because of you, please keep us updated on any problems with the reels

[@MDLRFishing]

I will, thanks for watching.

[@collincelania7316]

I have a bates salty and just send it in for repair I had the same problem in warm weather

[@MDLRFishing]

That sucks! Hope they get it fixed for you quickly.

[@MindfulMusic]

Do you hook up your depth finder directly to your trolling motor battery or do you use a separate one? It looks like it is connected to the main?

[@MDLRFishing]

I’m using a separate battery. I believe you can see it on my left hand side by the kayak seat.

[@WarhammerDad]

Went out as well. Only thing we got were several large black drum and baby sand trout but was too cold for Kayak so were in a boat and in the channel. Otherwise, it has been skunk city so far this year from the kayak and off the bank.

[@MDLRFishing]

🙌 at least you're catching!

[@kayakjoe]

For inshore, I have found that higher the pressure is over 1026 the less the fish bite. Around 1029, it shuts off almost entirely. The more the water temp dips under 60, the slower the fish bite. Literally, they will bite in slow motion LOL. Dead sticking top waters actually can work in these conditions as long as the pressure is not too high.

[@Grind_Fishing]

Like just chucking it out and literally just letting it lie?

[@kayakjoe]

@@Grind_Fishing Yep - exactly that. Dead stick top water. Maybe a couple very short twitches every 10-20sec

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for the insight, I will definitely keep that in mind.

[@Grind_Fishing]

@@kayakjoe thanks for the info. Never even gave that a thought, I’ll see if can’t get one to bit like that on the next trip out.

[@kayakjoe]

@@Grind_Fishing Yes, when the water temps are low AND if you are getting good boils on top water try the dead stick top water trick. Add some procure too. Give me a shout out mention if it works for you :) It should. Me any a buddy sat on a school that would NOT bite any other way. Had double hookups all day long on upper slot reds.

[@reysalinas5357]

No, the problem is not the gear shrinking.There's no way the gears was shrink of that much

[@SomeOne-on6yf]

It was cold and i got skunked on the very same day. Tried different locations, even took live bait to seawolf park, but the wind and cold kept us on the wrong side of the park.

[@AutoCareCustoms]

Same here, we went thinking we could catch a few but didn’t get a single bite all day.

[@ligerzero8685]

Same here buddy and I even tried the ferry after the wind kept me on the wrong side.

[@MDLRFishing]

That's tough, it definitely wasn't a very kind day.

[@tjjoseph333]

Always great to be out there with Ya!

[@MDLRFishing]

🤙

[@FloridaEastCoastFishing]

Just one of those days. Thanks for sharing!

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for watching!

[@fidelrodriguez9547]

Thanks for the video and stay warm carnal

[@MDLRFishing]

You too! It's been cold out there!

[@TheCopperVillageAngler]

Another great day in the great outdoors!

[@MDLRFishing]

It's not always great 😂 but I catch your drift 👍

[@rayhamilton1337]

I bought two of the hundo lts reels. I haven't a chance to use them much yet. I'm hoping that the problem you had is an isolated incident. I'm wondering what bates thinks and says about the problem. .

[@MDLRFishing]

Hopefully it’s an isolated incident, I’ll try to get an answer from the company soon!

[@TexasSlamFishing]

That's your anti reverse bearing it will continue to get worse but cheap to fix. My shimano metanium is doing it because it got saltwater on it

[@MDLRFishing]

👍

[@kathyclark9268]

I’m over this cold weather! I cannot imagine how miserable it was out there!

[@MDLRFishing]

Better days ahead 😂

[@bowdenhooser2200]

Mark if you go to the store and purchase mineral oil for a gaming PC keep some of it handy and if your transducer leaks again fill it with that oil. I have to do that every so often with my hummingbird mega 369

[@MDLRFishing]

Interesting, thanks for sharing! I’ll have to look into that.

[@kenhuynh275]

I can hear that wind howling and you shivering. In a kayak with 25 kn gust wind and cold is hard core.

[@MDLRFishing]

🥶 I was done after three hours and no bites. 😂👍

[@alpie547]

Like others have said, anti-reverse clutch brng. Symptom is common, the rollers stick intermittently. "But it works inside my WARM house." Likely, you've got your rollers lubed (like I do mine, for protection), but just like your Procure out on water, it's gelled-up due to cold. Clean it thoroughly, and then try just a very light spritz of an aerosol type penetrating oil (ie, something lower viscosity than what might have been in it prior). See if that clears your issue - leave the assembled reel where it can get to about 40o, and test it.

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for the info, it makes perfect sense and could be the issue. 👍

[@alpie547]

@@MDLRFishing One guy's thoughts/experience: Just looked at your reel schematic, pretty standard, so this is an easy-enough fix that anyone can do quickly. If I had to guess, the OEM lube has gotten contaminated w/ enough s-w thru usage (it's inevitable, like others have written) that it's acting up and contributing to the sticking rollers on the one-way bearing. Probably time for a cleaning + light oil anyway (in my book, at least). L/P b-c's (Abu, Diawa, Shimano, Lews, 13F, etc etc) all suffer the same. Good thing, tho --- this isn't the end of the world. Changing gears: Bully on you for getting out there, pushing the envelope w/ the elements, in order to maybe pull a rabbit outta the hat. Protective eyewear wrap-arounds (me - Walmart $10 ambers w/ magnifiers) come in handy when it's like the North Atlantic. LOL

[@BigK_ThirdCoastReds]

Mark, I had a similar problem with my Electronics and bought some Ferrite Beads from Amazon, and now it's GONE.! Possibly a cheap fix. Just my $.02 "Tight Lines and Full Limits To Ya"

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for the tip!

[@iscarran]

I watched the entire video. It’s the least I could do. You suffered through this day. Tougher than a lot of us.

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for watching 🙏

[@wumpster5]

Do you have any videos of the setups you use before you go out?

[@MDLRFishing]

Not sure I understand what you’re meaning.

[@wumpster5]

@ as in the lures you use for what you’re going attempting to catch and where to buy

[@MDLRFishing]

I try my best to do this without having the appearance of being an infomercial. But you can go into my video description to check out the majority of the items I use. 👍

[@wumpster5]

@ I felt really dumb after I sent that last message and didn’t realize you had everything in your description

[@jerrodknapke7324]

Looks like the anti-slip/one way bearing is giving out. Dont know the exact term.. new to saltwater here, from NW Houston... loving your chan sir, soaking up your knowledge!😊

[@MDLRFishing]

It's functioning perfectly fine in warmer conditions. Tested it when I got home.

[@raymondescobar1702]

OMG YOU GOT PECANS OF STEEL BEING OUT THERE. SO COLD. 😂😂😂

[@MDLRFishing]

😂

[@AutoCareCustoms]

Just went out there the other day too didn’t get a single bite!

[@MDLRFishing]

Better days to come.

[@SSHitMan]

I'm always afraid to take soft plastics out of the bag and directly into a tackle box, I've had too many react and turn into a sticky melted mess! 🤣

[@MDLRFishing]

same here, the TPE material from Savage Gear is strong but always turns to goo.

[@reysalinas5357]

Your one way clutch should not have any grease at all. Because the needle bearings will stick with the grease, causing the clutch not to do his job.

[@alpie547]

Agree on 'the use of grease' causing roller sticking (at least what might be commonly avail to most of us). I open up all my new reels before I spool them up, to make sure of proper lube, etc. And I've yet to find any L-P (regardless of brand) that doesn't have some kind of lube in these one-way brngs. Their lube doesn't make the rollers stick. Once I have to get into them to clean away contaminants, etc thru usage, I'll reapply a light reel oil, as a protectant...also keeps the action quieter, too. So far, I've not had cold-temp issues (I do fish in 40-45o air at times, happily less-often here in e cen Fla than TX), but if ever do, I'll step-down in the oil viscosity, with a light misting of aerosol oil. Cheers!

[@MDLRFishing]

That’s a good point, thanks for the advice!

[@Andrew-wi3tv]

Is it possible that your line is slipping on the spool? If you pull on your line with your drag tightened up, does it slip?

[@MDLRFishing]

No line slippage. That’s the first thing I checked. Cast as far as I could with the wind and pulled the remaining line off the spool. It only holds about 90-100 meters of the braid that I use. I reeled everything back in and still had the issue that you see in the video. Good thinking though, that always happens to my spinning reels.

[@sidewinder-nf9qm]

Also Bates I believe will send you a new one

[@MDLRFishing]

Bates has responded quickly and is working on the issue. 👍

[@oliverbatinga5330]

Hey Mark. That spooling is most likely due to a rusted/stuck roller clutch bearing.

[@MDLRFishing]

Can't be, I tested at home and it's perfectly fine now that its warmed up. Has to be because of the cold.

[@davidgarcia6315]

Looks like the little grab on the gear that stops it from going back wasn’t holding it’s on the very bottom of all the clutch or brake pads hard to explain without showing the piece .

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@joemills4716]

How do you like those simms flyweights? Thinking of getting a pair for duck hunting

[@MDLRFishing]

They're good but only last about 2 to 3 seasons in the salt. The quick tie grommets on the ankles corrode exceptionally fast. The glue that holds the shoes together, separates after a few years. That being said, I have owned four pairs of them and will continue to buy them until I find something that will outperform them.

[@joemills4716]

Good to know. Was looking at those and the free salts. I’ve heard those are good too. Made for the salt water

[@Southside112]

Thats why at this time of the year its good to go to the coves or cuts in a bayou to protect you from the wind btw do you have a link where you get your flats buggs

[@MDLRFishing]

Buggs fishing website. www.buggsfishing.com/store/

[@kayakjoe]

what is that reel shelf you have?

[@MDLRFishing]

It’s from Hobby Lobby.

[@weirdfishweirdfish6636]

Are you sure the line is not spinning on the spool

[@ronnstone7023]

That reel surely not work for ice fishing, if that’s your Bate’s reel it’s a lemon in cold weather. Better off with a $300 Lew’s or another brand.

[@MDLRFishing]

It’s definitely a bummer if the issue persists.

[@luisvelazquez8933]

Id call the company and send it back as soon as possible. So they can get that warranty work done.

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for the advice 👍

[@abrahamjoseph6707]

What reel was acting up, mark?

[@MDLRFishing]

Bates LTS

[@Belmont148]

That's a shame on that reel for the price it is. This is why I always stick to Shimano reels, at least I know how to work on them and parts are available. For the value and ease of repair they just make life simpler. I've had people tell me to try the Bates saying, oh look CA left Shimano so something must be wrong with their stuff. He likes Bates now. Lol

[@MDLRFishing]

Hopefully the issue doesn't persist or it will indeed be a shame.

[@omarjohnson3411]

Looks like a Lews' reel? Shimano's don't do that. Wonder which one I will spend my money on....

[@MDLRFishing]

The malfunctioning reel is definitely not a Lew's. My Lew's Custom Lite has been solid for several years. This Custom Lite SS that I'm using now is also solid. I have two baitcasters that I'm using for Season 8.

[@omarjohnson3411]

@@MDLRFishing Hope you get this one resolved! Malfunctions on the water don't work! Just got great news, my Speedmaster 25 arrived, $290 cost

[@DarrenEllinger]

We a Tropical people

[@MDLRFishing]

😂😂😂🙌

[@AlanSloan88]

Too cold to catch em. Don't worry, it'll be in 70's soon.

[@MDLRFishing]

😂 right!

[@oifvet2007ms]

Time to get a new reel

[@MDLRFishing]

I’m hoping it won’t come to that.

[@marvincruz9543]

Saludos amigo aquí le dejo mi like feliz año éxito

[@MDLRFishing]

👍

[@nathanmorkovsky2855]

Dammit!!

[@MDLRFishing]

Looking forward to the next trip!

[@raymondescobar1702]

Maybe it's a different type reading, example French ?

[@sidewinder-nf9qm]

Bates LTS?

[@MDLRFishing]

Yes

[@robertnardini8509]

The day I went to Tackle Town in Rockport, the Bates rep had a full table of reels set up and was offering a great deal. The store does sell Bates so after his speal to me, I went over to the manager I know and asked his opinion. He quickly stated if it breaks you have to send it to CA for repair and that the gears were no where close to Shimano gears. I walked over and picked up 2 Shimano Tranx 150s and spooled them with 10lb Power Pro Super 8 Slick V2. A little harder to set up than my Calcutta at the start but knowing they are almost bullet proof to saltwater keeps me from all the extra cleaning and I can throw 1/16 Oz buggs jigs 50 plus feet with my Old 18 buoyancy 7ft lite fast action. Great rods.

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for sharing Robert. If I continue to have this issue, I’ll just replace the reel. It’s been perfect until this trip. Kinda sad because I really like it and had high hopes for it.

[@TheInshoreOutdoorsman]

@@robertnardini8509 my tranx reel is still smooth but has visible corrosion on the paint on the ouside so even the tranx isnt as bullet proof to salt water than youd think. never been dunked but fished from a kayak, still works great but i can see the corrosion slowly spreading

[@robertnardini8509]

After rinse all eyes and rod, reel are wiped down with Clenzoil spray. I then use the Clenzoil oil with a fine drop tube for the reel. Everytime faithfully. Veteran owned company and American made..

[@sidewinder-nf9qm]

Anglers Anonymous in Katy TX repairs them

[@MDLRFishing]

Thanks for the info bro!

[@sidewinder-nf9qm]

@@MDLRFishing anglers anonymous also carries buggs lures, don't tell everyone. Really good store just a bit of a drive

[@roymyers8575]

Cuss word cuss word lololololol

[@MDLRFishing]

😂😂😂

[@weirdfishweirdfish6636]

Brother dont know if your mad at yourself are the fish

[@MDLRFishing]

😂😂😂

[@daviddura1172]

Brrrrrrrrrrr

[@MDLRFishing]

🥶

[@weirdfishweirdfish6636]

Nvm

[@JohnSmith-kz1ll]

Put it in the freezer