Not Another Sprite Fight - Special Edition

[@sonic4331]

This video belongs in a museum. So glad to have found this again, I remember seeing it for the first time and dying to see a sequel. KZbin was so different back then. This video is one of the greats

[@Gabrielbarsch]

quality stuff, good old times...

[@j09k06]

Your face makes me feel like I seen you somewhere.

[@1982pokemon]

I remember watching this when I was 9. Ahh

[@Gabrielbarsch]

1982pokemon then you are 16 now

[@Fractorification]

I remember the good old days when this was first uploaded. I watched it at school and my classmates just piled behind me just watching the screen intently. They were big Nintendo fans so they started pointing out little mistakes that the characters would make but everyone was tense to find out who would end up as the winner at the end. Really good stuff.

[@Marchers46]

It’s been so long since this comment was made.

[@a-buttonace]

How do you feel about it now?

[@Fractorification]

@ The same. Just a tad bittersweet for how long it’s been. It makes you realize how time flies by and you have to live in the moment.

[@AkinHeskey]

And to this day the sequel never came...

[@bonksterrr]

true

[@lcurryFaqs]

Brandyn Christie not even now.

[@kiddtaviousk]

Hopefully :)

[@austinreed7343]

Brandyn Christie Who should participate? Shantae, Earthworm Jim, Astal, Sketch Turner, Zool...

[@billyweed835]

This guy's working on Death Battle now.

[@FC3zombiehunter]

BRO THIS ONE WAS SO GOOD I JUST SPENT LIKE AN HOUR TRYING TO FIND THIS. What a satisfying moment to find this lost treasure

[@dxninjazero5876]

I love the fact that Zero the most badass character in Megaman series.... Just got his ass kicked by Luigi.

[@sacredstars2618]

but like... if we're scaling them, Luigi beats him every category, except probably intelligence, this man casually breaks and runs away from black holes, he also tanks them.

[@李泓寬-i5d]

@@sacredstars2618 Luigi beat everyone if he do nothing

[@weegeeman13]

I still cannot believe it has been 9 years since this was originally uploaded. So much has changed since then..

[@SuperScratchkat]

This still stand as my favorite sprite fight to date. I think the sound effects and music were the best part. I can't wait for DX!

[@nurmanurmanurr2946]

Link's defeat was pretty brutal.

[@angryman...]

What about Samus'

[@emarythomp]

Bro mega man LITERALLY DIED

[@eyeccantseeyouu]

@@emarythomp and Samus most likely got disintegrated by megaman tho

[@ShadowDuty7]

Oh god it's good to watch this again...and it's a little different too!!! Thanks for this ShortFactor!!

[@GeneralDragon011]

Even in 2022, I find my way back here.

[@jseeker1867]

With how much time it has been since you promised the mysterious remake and sequel, I am fully expecting an hour and a half long movie.

[@ThatOneStormPerson]

7:24 god such an epic moment. :D

[@peepeepower9076]

I see the most fatal flaw with Sonics super speed ability he always does it in a pattern making it easily hittable

[@ryodestroyer2]

Heh, Luigi's scene, still a great big awkwardly epic moment.

[@SupPalInd]

My, what a pleasant surprise. I used to watch this Flash a lot back in the day, didn't know you remastered it. One of the reasons I loved this Flash so much was the music choices, they were completely against the trend in sprite flashes from back then. Great nostalgia blast.

[@rottingbasket3379]

Luigi my fuckin' hero. Love that guy.

[@tradgore2436]

At 4:38 I can just imagine megaman (who hasn't been defeated at that time) is just watching everyone beat badnicks while he just sits and Does nothing xD

[@David20Covers]

after all this time, i am only now noticing angel island in the background

[@dr_rl123]

This really isn't another sprite fight. This introduced so many cool things that people can do.

[@vasudean]

Regardless, I'm glad my main Kirby lasted as long as he did.

[@abird7809]

This is the best thing in the history of things.

[@JacobKaiju]

The sword fight between Zero and Link is pretty well done (plus, considering Link does use it to reflect light based attacks back at a boss, it makes sense here). In fact, the whole video is well done, and entertaining.

[@TehUltimateNinjaGod]

Kirby saying "Chaos Control" is the best thing ever.

[@j09k06]

6:05 Mario Goes Badass

[@Dukstless]

I've noticed few changed things in the Special Edition. 0. You changed your alias in these 8 years. 1. Kirby's inhale scream has now white... thing. 2. SFX when Mario punches out Mega Man from Kirby is different. 3. Additional SFX for Mega Man's death. 4. Fireball now looks more fireballey. 5. "SHORT FACTOR PRESENTS" is now closer to the middle. 6. obviously Samus vs. Mega Man part Unless the original's quality is so horrible, I have hallucinations.

[@GreatLange]

Or, you know, you could read the description. You hallucinated that text being more centered. I didn't touch it.

[@Dukstless]

I can't read the description, BECAUSE I SUBSCRIBED. Blame reverse psychology.

[@ChaoticTurtle]

Oh man, the Newgrounds nostalgia. I forgot how this ended, so I was rooting for Kirby and gave a mini applause when he inhaled Shadow. Pretty sweet how all of these characters (except Ristar) are in Smash Bros. I actually wish Smash 4 happened waaay back then just so Newground's glory days of sprite/smash animation would have more Snake, Ryu, Cloud, and Rayman and stuff.

[@awesomerandomguy2]

It took you a long time fella, good work.

[@BrenLee-j6p]

Well I think they're just went back home

[@blazingraymond9533]

Mario was invincible until Sonic came.

[@me3ple40]

Nah kirby pow powed him up tho

[@kokoroyasashidesu5248]

Good thing it wasn't powerstar Mario or else everyone would have been dead

[@nyanya660]

R.I.P MegaMan for not showing his full strength in the battle because of Zero.

[@KyleButlerMaverickETC]

Wooow, such a throwback! I remember this being one of my core inspirations.

[@nemasis3134]

2020 still watiing.......... and it hurts.........

[@dongtrope]

Still watching this in 2018, lol

[@UmHowAboutNo]

Sweet, good to see one of my favorite animations again :D

[@SebGH]

wow i didn't notice there was an updated version, good job

[@dannyligf6812]

I watched this back in Newgrounds and rewatching it I just realized Luigi was never defeated...😳

[@Galactic.Scoonie77]

I felt like if they actually did the sequal Sonic / shadow vs mario and luigi

[@PizzaProblems]

Took me way back to the days of VGDC....

[@DrDirtyLeggz]

Huh, 9 years later and with the exception of Zero and Ristar, this was literally Snash 4 being called way back when. Man, to this day, this is still my favorite sprite flash.

[@hcookie4424]

Snash 4?

[@zacnate100]

Fun to watch as always Lange. Great work

[@onhiatusrightnow]

Well Jordan, I hope you're happy. You were right all along.

[@mikeynbinky]

THIS IS PEREFECT! GREAT WORK! Luigi is best fighter wished i could of seen more of him but the fight was still entertaining :)

[@jonhikarizx3631]

Even wih the Song of Time, Sonic is STILL FAST!!! :D

[@JimAbooGames]

This is super Awesome, Great work here.

[@yodieussmdick5264]

These animations are badass

[@blackattack1840]

this was before I even knew what a battle royale was

[@Goldmight]

Weird that all of them are now in smash bros 4 before smash 4 was even in coded.

[@samufinland5765]

Expect the star-hand-ball-whatever-creature

[@cozyrese]

+Samu Rönkkö ristar

[@Chris-jl6vp]

Zero isn't.

[@ceeemgee03]

Samu Rönkkö haha lol

[@Muigio44]

I remember watching this when I was a kid.

[@martinmartinez5649]

kind of weird that when kirby inhales megaman he is still inside of him but for sonic he comes out becuase of a clone kirby makes for his power

[@Kain128]

"I cannot lose"? Is Sonic secretly Lucina?

[@데모크러쉬]

Finally.. I catch you♡

[@errorinbluescreen2863]

I find the idea of defeating Link in any universe highly Impractical/impossible. He's got too much damn health and equipment.

[@weegeeman13]

After watching this again after some time, Mr. Lange, I have another set of questions. (As in, at this point I'd just kindly request that you ignore my ignorance in any previous posts) Regarding the actual plot and execution, though, I am left wondering: 1. What was the point of Kirby's large inhale scene? It started out alright, but he only held Mega Man's ability for an incredibly short period of time before losing it again. Wouldn't it make more sense to have him hold it longer, perhaps in a similar amount of time to Sonic's ability? That one was drawn out as well (although made more interesting by showing Kirby's internal complex), but it made up for it by reaching a conclusion and displaying it a bit more. 2. Logically, what was also the point of Link's Ocarina scene? He was only able to go faster than the others for a few seconds, but then it just reverted to a slow motion running sequence between all of the characters. 3. What happens to Luigi after his battle with Ristar in the intro? Am I to assume that it occurred in a different location, or wouldn't he have technically been included in the battle between Samus/Mega Man and so on? 4. Speaking of which, what warranted the deletion of that scene? If I recall correctly, it wasn't included in the original video but rather kept a separate recluse that was uploaded later.

[@GreatLange]

ShinyPorygon5 1 and 2 are excused by rule of cool. The direction for this was rather poor and more so an outlet for ideas I had, yet the movie did not have enough cohesion. This is a main reason I'm compelled to do a remake. 3, yes Luigi has his own things going on somewhere else after the Ristar battle until he shows up again, but I mustn't say what those things are. 4, it was a Flash limitation. Flash movies are limited to 16,000 frames, which the final version barely fit into. There are workarounds but I didn't know how to do them back then.

[@VelocitOni]

+The Great Lange Oh man, everytime I come back to your channel I'm so happy to hear you're STILL set on doing a sequel/remake, regardless of how long it takes (5 years since the Destruction Series gift or so?). This is still one of my favorite animations since like forever when I saw it as a dumb kid. Would you be opposed to just calling the next one "Not ANOTHER Sprite Fight", just with 'another' in caps for emphasis :V (Also I hope Mario is just as acrobatically amazing in what you have planned or I'll find where you live)

[@dongtrope]

+The Great Lange just curious what happens when they get defeated?

[@weegeeman13]

Gaster Blaster master I'd wager that they go back to their home worlds?

[@dongtrope]

+The Great Lange when link used saria's song what sound effect did you use(when time was slowly recovering)

[@blue-zmariossbu]

Man... I remember watching this as a 11 year old...

[@1982pokemon]

3:00 hypernova before triple deluxe

[@BrenLee-j6p]

I hope part 2 shows up I just hope it is

[@mistersonic93]

Love the Kirby Airride Music

[@blackiciz]

at 7:30 mario would need a shadow ninja speed star to get sonic

[@dsd4421]

oh megaman is still alive

[@DDJORD]

Still waiting on that’s sequel Lange...

[@SonicHunter]

While I still call shenanagins on the Sonic vs. Mario bit, (no detriment to you, my good sir) this is an amazing animation and improving upon it only improved it. I still can't wait to see part 2, but I'm glad that we got to see this. Keep going for as long as you wish to animate! You're one of the best.

[@doomedgundam6684]

Mario Vs Sonic was spot on.

[@notkimjune]

I've never seen anything like this before. megaman vs samus

[@thrasher698]

Shortfactor, you once again prove you are a master of animation. Though I must call you out on something. The time slowing effect of the Song of Time require that the notes be played in reverse, thus resulting in the Inverted Song of Time rather than the rewinding effect normally created.

[@GreatLange]

Yeah I'm well aware of this. I preferred Link playing the song of time instead due to it's familiarity, but I've since regretted it.

[@thrasher698]

Well it's not that big of a deal, and I'm sure sound clips for the Inverted song of time are very few and far between, meaning that it would have been a pain to find and put in the video.

[@GreatLange]

thrasher698 No actually, I have every song from Majora's Mask, and this version of the song of time was a custom remake. I've actually recreated the inverted song of time as well just in case.

[@dariendude17]

Is it lame I still find this impressive at age 33?

[@Lxxnte]

no :) 19 and i still love this animation

[@RichieGonzo]

Why did megaman get his butt kicked so much after he defeated samus??

[@basedheavenproductions7709]

Luigi wavedash...its your only option

[@Granadico]

So is this Not Another Sprite Fight - Special Edition: The Special Edition

[@GreatLange]

Nope, it's Not Another Sprite Fight - Special Edition v1.1 Hell you could just call it NASF v1.2

[@Granadico]

Nah mine's better. Or Not Another Sprite Fight - Special Edition: Directors Cut (or DX to make it sound edgy and hip)

[@GreatLange]

Granadico ***** The DX is for deluxe.

[@Granadico]

I thought DX was directors cut, like Sonic Adventure DX

[@GreatLange]

Granadico Well they can go fuck themselves.

[@danieltheninjarobloxgaming6887]

Kirby has now chaos control

[@MilesQuickster]

So this is where Kirby's sonic sprites originate from. That's what I'm assuming

[@jerrisatyourwindow]

I have seen this more than twice. And one thing I realize in the nintedo company and fanbase, when theres a kirby there always a pikachu

[@ryanwastaken4907]

What Sprite sheets do you use? Or do you make your own that only you have access to? If so, totally fine. Also, who else was waiting for Luigi to win?

[@AlmarAZL9S]

ShortFactor...I'm sorry. I saw this and it forced me to subscribe. I wasn't expecting an update like this. I personally recorded this and added the Samus VS Megaman fight to NASF myself for me to enjoy. I didn't expect you to actually do that AND update this whole project. Sorry. At least I'll know when you make updates to your videos now. This took a month for me to notice. Again, unexpected.

[@Cheetahrun75]

You fool! Have you any idea what you have done!

[@AlmarAZL9S]

***** I know. I'm an idiot...but I don't want to miss out on any more stuff from him.

[@thereapet2139]

sonic has dropped from space like twice but then getting smashed against the ground from a tree kills him,makes sense to me:I

[@stephenbaker7750]

What was the song at 0:18? It's a Kirby song but I can't find the name of it anywhere. Btw, awesome work man

[@SonicGabriel]

Maybe a fire stage in Air ride?

[@NyxTheBraix]

Still waiting for NASF 2

[@weegeeman13]

For the time this was made (in 2007?) Why did you use weird outdated sprites for Robotnik and the Mario mushroom? I'm pretty sure Sega Genesis sprites were around. And what's with the cameo of Ristar? I assume it would have cost everyone a Google search to remember or even recognize him. Along with that, what was the point of creating "Helix" just to make another flash? Why not just use the same program? I mean, it's still not out even after 7 years. I remember watching this when I was 12.

[@GreatLange]

The Robotnik sprites were easier to edit. I don't know why I used that version of the mushroom. One of many reasons I'm not proud of this. Ristar was not a cameo, he's an actual part of the cast. This is not just about popular characters, it's about characters that I personally know and love. I'm not creating Helix to make another Flash. I'm creating Helix to make an animation. Flash is very weak in many critical areas when it comes to animation, and the things I need to accomplish for NASF 2 cannot be done (at least not in any reasonable capacity) in Flash.

[@plazmeonsparks257]

What do you mean I'm not fair. What did I do?

[@RichieGonzo]

Whats the song at 6:18? When mario goes into mega mario?

[@NyxTheBraix]

Air Ride: Light

[@RichieGonzo]

Thanks :)

[@NyxTheBraix]

Don't worry pal.

[@BrenLee-j6p]

Can you do another one of these

[@foxocommando2728]

I remember sonic and Kirby scared when Mario destroyed link ahhh memories still waiting for part 2

[@SpeedsterBlur]

Heh I remember this animation on Newgrounds back in the day (however long that was)

[@StevehPokeProf]

All these years and I still can't find the source of the "Defeated" sound effect.

[@GreatLange]

Because I made it.

[@themiloyt3111]

@@GreatLange Will you ever make a sequel to this iconic animation?

[@Rony257]

Hopefully part two comes out before I die

[@arnowilliamson5970]

How did Pikachu survive an attack from Kirby, Pikachu has like 0 bulk

[@twinmillario1452]

(5:47) What's this song called?

[@RealDracoYoutube4404]

how did Sonic get out of the defeated portal is it that he has magic what the f*** was that

[@richiesmith3262]

Yeah you Mario fan boys are just jealous because sonic is faster than the speed of light an sound

[@kmtpa]

What is the name of this song in this part 6:18

[@dr_rl123]

It's from Kirby Air Ride. Called "Light" or "Top Ride" You can find it by typing in "Kirby Air Ride Light" and it'll come up.

[@BioRhythmicStudios]

Any updates or progress on anything you're working on?

[@kuroneko3230]

what was the song that started at 3:20?

[@SebGH]

what is the song when kirby swallowed sonic?

[@nairuji3796]

Also, Smash Flash is born.

[@RichieGonzo]

I really hope megaman does better next time....

[@maverick5169]

Well, Zero was meant to kill him

[@stwbmc98]

I love that animation whenever the characters are defeated. Really sweet. I kinda want to see that show up in an actual fighting game.

[@dr_rl123]

Was Kirby Super Star Ultra out back then? Couldn't you use those for Kirby?

[@literalstapler]

No fucking way kirby just lost to sonic.

[@EpicJamesGuy]

What's the name of the song that plays at 7:52?

[@faclon11236]

Lmao I like how no body can touch Luigi

[@SonicGabriel]

Kirby would destroy everyone if he could stop Super Sonic.

[@jmaster1114]

과거에 플래시로 봤는데 다시볼줄이야! 최고입니다! 그런데 메가맨과 사무스가 싸우고 사무스가 질때 '패배' (defeated)를 안넣었네요....

[@Saiavinn]

Jeh Jeh Rocket for Sonic's intro! :D