Not every session is a good session

We recorded this video last week and just got around to posting it. Lionel has now since recovered and is back training. I just made it back out to Tucson and we are recording all week. -talbot
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[@andrewgrenville5330]

Lionel really does overthink everything, if you're ill, leave the lactate strips in the cupboard for a few weeks and listen to your body for a while. Just tick over until you're feeling better.

[@t16incho]

Bad run, god run, you still are an inspiration for me. Keep pushing!

[@matthewlivingston8783]

Worried about you man. Thanks for not hiding reality of struggle through KZbin magic. You need an assistant, pushing you to doctors and all the other self care crap we humans dodge… Reminding you it ain’t the shoes! Canada Loves you dude!!

[@carstendk74]

He/they just had a child. BIG adjustment on so many levels.

[@jojijosette5946]

This is the body. Not bulky muscles that look freakish. But just muscles, normal muscles. Lionel is so lean, just amazing.

[@NockOn1]

Patience is the game now. Stay active and let the body finish healing. It’s awesome to let us in on your day to day with your boy in your lap. You always keep it real and it’s appreciated 🇨🇦

[@JJ01010J]

I came in from my run last night and announced “that was a garbage run - I felt like sh*t”. Thank you for reminding me it happens to the best of the best too. I’d like to see you have yourself checked out to make sure everything is ok :) I love your content and can’t wait to see your season take off 💪🏼🔥

[@Underdog_Triathlete]

Honestly a bit comforting to know that the pros go through this kind of struggle and self-doubt too. The path to success isn’t linear, and we’ve ALL gotta remember it. Rooting for you, Lionel!

[@santipoggi]

Always good to watch your videos!! It helps one pull out motivation when things aren't feeling good...

[@ddjsrob]

One of the most inspiring videos you’ve made. Coz it’s a good reminder that you can build it back from feeling shit.

[@ebhkkc1]

Get better Lionel. You have been on such a rollercoaster ride. I am one of your biggest fans. I will never forget having you as my inspiration to complete my first 140.6. For that, I am forever thankful. You know that 70.3's fit you so well. Go get that 2023 70.3 world title. I think you turn 37 this year..Make it count and take the Rx, your body needs it...Good luck this year Lionel and congrats on being a Dad..E

[@samlunger8777]

Glad to hear you are feeling better, Lionel. Hate to see you suffering through that. I have to say, perfect timing. I just had one of my worst workouts, three weeks out from my first race of the season. I take solace in knowing it happens to the best. Thanks for continuing to inspire and trying to keep it positive. Better days to come. Cheers!

[@yasmeenshaaban7849]

I love how honest you are

[@petebarber6778]

It is to stay on course Lionel...... the one that saved you....triathlon..... clean....free.....inspirational to many like me.

[@TheTrooperOnLine]

take care of yourself Lionel and give healing some more time. huge respect for the struggles you are juggling, that's definitely not easy. but with a character like yours and the experiences you have, you'll be able to find your way. many people out there have faith in your abilities. reason enough for you to believe in yourself as well

[@tangarz5357]

I remember when I got Covid 2 years ago and was the best shape of my life. And after my HR would not get up to my normal levels for workouts and it took over a year for my HR to get back to normal. I have heard rumors of Covid having lasting impacts on heart heath. Not saying that’s what’s happening just saying run of the mill illnesses can really linger.

[@ironmantooltime]

This.

[@skylinedrag]

The same in my case. Average HR increased drasticly and it takes me months to come back...

[@ironmantooltime]

@@skylinedrag same. It came down quickly but a long time to come down completely.

[@skylinedrag]

@@ironmantooltime exactly. Did You have increased D-dimer level too? It is the main root cause of worse performance

[@ironmantooltime]

@@skylinedrag I didn't get that tested, but that's good to know. Don't know if Lionel will do that.. 👍

[@tngo3]

these videos are always motivating for me to watch.. keep up the good work LS💪

[@liamgaul]

"Finish the season well, that's for sure" So hard to hear that watching after the DQ

[@askhatashimov7250]

Good job Lionel!! Pure motivator!! Heads up!! ✊🏻✊🏻✌🏻💪🏻💪🏻 thank you!

[@deportedsouls3165]

After watching the last video, and how sick Lionel was during last session, I was glad he stayed home!

[@jeffk2512]

Feels like Rocky II...Hope you get back the Eye of the Tiger!!! 🐯🐯🐯

[@CarloS-dc9zm]

really an inspiration. thanks, champ!

[@desmondyap5391]

A bad run is better than no run at all

[@Naah732]

Ari Klau approved

[@plants4thewin]

LOVE THIS!

[@nimbra2]

Unless it isn’t

[@vozzen]

Not when he is caughing up his lungs

[@matthewcartner583]

Ja not sure about that

[@hschofield82]

Loving the focus on temp. Thanks for this peek into your training!

[@MrJW1967]

Wonderfull end of this video, thats all that matters and you do alright.❤

[@VisitOceanside]

We're sad you missed Oceanside this year! That Oceanside 2024 podium is calling your name! 🏆 Best of luck with the rest of the 2023 season! 🌴

[@Jakebrah]

Lets go Lionel!

[@ryanmurphy6565]

Talbot ruthless calling you weak😂💀

[@pjbeattie1]

Ok context please LS!!! You crashed hard then got sick AF. Don’t expect miracles, you have to play this out. It’s gonna require you to dig deep, train hard and stay positive. Everyone has to deal with some setbacks at some point in a season and this is yours. Better to get it out of the way now and smash the remainder of the season!! You got this man!!!

[@barth510]

Hi Lionel I like the look of your bike! Glad to see your back to green, plus white HED lettering matches Canyon white lettering. I also noticed new gum wall tires to give your bike an edgy feel. Keep it rocking! 🤙

[@stu3232]

I recently took 4 weeks off sick with chickenpox and bronchitis and damn it was depressing how much i'd lost. It's insane how much the body can detrain in just a few weeks. The first few rides on the trainer just pissed me off, zero enjoyment. 6 weeks later and i'm pretty much back to pre sickness levels of fitness. It's frustrating that we lose fitness so much faster than we gain it but setbacks are all a part of the bigger process and all you can do is grind through the return to fitness.

[@na-dk9vm]

Just an input here, dunno if you'll agree. If you had taken 4 weeks off just to relax, you might not have been feeling so bad on returning as you did now. Bronchitis hits the lungs hard. So maybe that's what you feel now. Maybe you hadn't lost as much fitness as you'd thought, it's just that your lungs are wrecked from that sickness. It happened to me with COVID. I didnt stop training for too long, but still was wrecked after I came back.

[@stu3232]

@@na-dk9vm Yeah you might be right actually. I was shocked by how much i'd lost, it seemed excessive for what i'd expect from a month on the couch. I lost about 40-50 watts at the same HR on the bike and about 30 seconds per km at the same HR running from that 4 weeks off. Probably half of that loss came back within 2 weeks, and the rest a bit slower. Its funny though, you hear pro athletes talk about how unfit they feel after a Christmas holidays break, I think if you can avoid it or unless you're forced through injury/sickness its probably never worth taking long periods of voluntary full rest, I find it a real downer feeling like all your hard work is gone. Even doing some lower volume zone 1 or zone 2 work seems to go a long way to maintaining fitness.

[@na-dk9vm]

@@stu3232 yeah man, you prob didn't lose that much fitness at all, the sickens just wrecked your lungs. Supposedly, a person only gains and losses fitness every 10-14 days. And when losing its only a small %.

[@matthewcartner583]

"Let's stay positive" - that's the spirit mate

[@MrTraveller.]

Legends Never Die 💯

[@bluemystic7501]

I just had my appendix removed and had to take a couple weeks off. Keep at it but give it a week, you'll get back in the rhythm very soon.

[@dariuszlesiak1334]

Very good work, big inspiration for others! Really helpfull will be some consultation with running coaches who can tell what Lionel can improve and change for better results. #nolimits Great video! 💪😎

[@yijuntey]

Ive noticed that you do all your cycling on rollers, does that destroy your tires easily? And what tires so you use for indoor training?

[@armystrong328]

I'll be at ST George this year really looking forward to this race. Just got off antibiotics and it did a number on my gut.

[@BillBrinkop]

That’s how I felt after COVID

[@ironmantooltime]

It's totally covid. Post viral you can still be nuked. High heart rate is a classic symptom. Recovery time is .. till you're recovered. Really right now antibiotics giving him an upset gut is a very minor problem by comparison.

[@murraywanner4767]

A lot of athletes that got Covid reported elevated HR at moderate effort levels. The best advice would be to go easy until the HR returns to normal. It could take well over a month. Pushing harder isn't a good idea.

[@jordanmilite6090]

Winning it all this year 😎

[@zb5715]

Glad to finally see Lion using quality nutrition.. bet he wishes he could get back those races on the Gatorade garbage. Maurten is the best.

[@Lindemann0815]

If you had a real virus that can derail you for several weeks. That is not unusual. I hope you feel better soon.

[@Maingoal1973]

How much does Lionel follow the recommendations of daily strain, sleep, recovery on his whoop?

[@amyknibb7740]

It’s great seeing u being a dad! Congrats again!

[@colindittmer.]

Without blood tests to see if one has a bacterial infection; taking antibiotics / continuing to train above zone 1, is gambling with your health.

[@Jdwmaguire]

Mystery Pro you here? Keep on trucking LS!

[@petebarber6778]

love you brother of the downtrodden

[@YourSmilingWhen]

Awesome stuff guys. Curious, is Lionel doing any weight training these days?

[@Greg-me8le]

Am I the only one that is amazed at the running paces? If you asked me what pace he was running I would have said it looks like 8:00 plus per mile but he is running 6:00 per mile. And complaining that the Heart rate to hight because it was over 140. These guys are different beasts than us mortals.

[@Morfeusm]

His max is much lower than most people thought, I think it’s around 170.

[@marcuswills6569]

Jan pulled out of Oceanside for something very similar, had some routine bloods done and showed up a virus.

[@joncarrol]

Your still can do it my man. Find the reason, search for the meaning. That’s where the work needs to be focused

[@christianthompson71]

Might have mono. I had a similar experience to you, Lionel, the worst of it may come soon

[@reviewworthy2365]

HaHa! Lionel is ready for a good Windsor Street Fight or a good sit down in front of a good UFC card! The saying “Baby need a bottle?” DOESN’T APPLY TO THE LION! Time to eat your young bro (Not literally, baby LS is awesome) and get better! No Limits! Great run even though you felt like sh$t! Keep charging man!

[@na-dk9vm]

Is there a video of him doing the 6 x 5ks he mentioned here???

[@swimbikerundie]

I had a strong cold and sinusitis for about two months this year. Was getting a bit better and then back again. 2 months. Augmentin for a week probably put an end to it. Swimming would make it much worse so I stopped. Never like this before...

[@Naah732]

I guess everyone should find their own ways to deal with sickness. I felt actually sick about 5 times this winter and just never paid any attention. Did the workout easier, 12hr shift, and just pushed it back. It was the first winter of my 19 years of life when I didn't get sick. Maybe it's not the best thing to do but worked for me

[@thomaschallen6569]

I had a chest infection and it took a good 6 months to get back to normal. My first race back 2 months after, I barely finished the swim and gave up on the bike as my heart rate was out of control.

[@abhinav72826]

No Sweat Lionel, I think you got this. I really wanna see you and Jan crush it at Kona this year. Top 5 at least. #nolimits

[@expatriathlon]

There's no Kona this year for the men, they race in Nice

[@abhinav72826]

@@expatriathlon Oh I had no idea. Good to learn about this. Thanks mate.

[@SoopKan]

Also I’m pretty sure Lionel is done with the full distance.

[@andrevaneeden2072]

What earphones is that Lionel is using??

[@troycollett8540]

Just need to trust the process

[@fabianpetersen6774]

Can someone please tell me why lionel moved away from direct Trainer to roller trainer

[@darthjohn0]

I think it's because he likes it more. Some people like the sensation, as is more similar to actually riding a bike.

[@bonn1771]

Get better and you be back soon

[@stuartjames752]

I dream of having one of your off days

[@tennvtxr]

I think part of the issue maybe seasonal allergies. Pollen is up and some of your symptoms appear to be from allergens. I never had seasonal allergies until I moved from TN to IL for residency, but when I moved back, I have bad seasonal allergies. This is an opinion from an MD. I also think you need to have a check up. If your check up is negative, it maybe seasonal allergies.

[@jonathanlaue3460]

Lionel, Lionel Lionel. You’ve had a crash then taken 3 weeks off. Your performance should be expected, not a surprise. So why the “mental struggle”?! Why the change of SHOES?! Just be patient and follow the process back to high performance.

[@jacquessmit4533]

Can we get a workout playlist on Spotify please, the one on there now is a bit old.

[@tariqquadri6873]

I am not being mean but I love listening to the sob stories of Lionel and Sam , feels very relatable despite the fact that they are world class athletes

[@heikkisanelma6625]

Man, you are professional in a sense. You should have a straight line in the phone to sports physician especially heart and lungs specialist for your sport you are in... You are also a father now, there should be no stupid risks with cardiac stuff.. i hope its better than it seems in these videos, hope we get our ol' Lionel back with dad superpower boost when it comes to most important races of the year!!

[@heikkisanelma6625]

+ if U want to let body heal, then there us no trsining above Z2.. if even that.. this would be funny if it would be the first time . Sheesshh

[@ironmantooltime]

@@heikkisanelma6625 really, when has lionel posted like this before? I'm interested to hear your knowledgeable opinion since you're sounding pretty cocky right now.

[@na-dk9vm]

Can anyone tell me, is it only pros /semi pros who get good use out of the blood lactate measurement ?? Could every day runners (who are serious about getting fitter) get use out of it ??

[@risaac09]

Have you had your labs done recently? Looks like iron/ferritin. Rebuilding from an injury like that demolishes stores of nutrients in your body.

[@timob12]

Why does he bike more on roller bars instead of Kickr now?

[@KrazyforScavs]

Any chance anyone knows when his undoubtedly shirt comes back in stock?

[@GingerBoy1974]

Running and training whilst ill, not good. Sounds terrible. Rest and recover or get worse.

[@dylanl9532]

Why ride roller not trainer? Is that for better bike control?

[@LandUpOver]

No good days without bad days. You would just call them average days

[@leslie7922]

I felt like shit today and ended up achieving three new swimming pbs 🤷‍♂️ maybe I need a sore throat more often

[@jamesnewport1227]

What was the that " follow that triathlon life" reference

[@mattia_pastore]

ben foltz who said it is part of the that triathlon life development team, so I guess he was messing with talbot since they both some of the most popular YT channels

[@timothydean9407]

Is Lionel self coaching or does he have a coach?

[@Morris91Music]

Do you ever keep track of your HRV?

[@Eirikkinserdal]

He uses whoop, so you would think so? 🤔

[@hboardz133]

BLOODTEST!!!!

[@danalmasan]

Does anyone know which brand of blood lactate meter LS is using?

[@adrienbeauvisage8667]

Lactate Plus Meter Blood (Nova Biomedical)

[@johncoleman8555]

YOU CAN DO CHATTANOONGA NOW!!!

[@alanbell1821]

Hitting 220 ftp. 57yrs. 12 stone ,, realistically can hit maybe 280 at age 60. 4 days a week zwift got x scottish national cyclist coaching

[@cdnnurse01]

Have grace with yourself sounds like you were pretty damn sick. It’ll come as a friend says to me, patience grasshopper patience

[@ironmantooltime]

Unless you've got no talent, then it doesn't. Ask me how I know 😂

[@andyashton3605]

Lionel burned his Oakley deal and now burned any future Nike deals after tossing them in the van and putting Asics on, LOL!

[@2Calam]

I think the problem was wearing 2 watches 😅

[@jamal1393648]

What is the point of taking a blood sample??

[@kolboch]

measuring lactate

[@angelrivas4042]

​@@kolboch what's measuring lactate?

[@na-dk9vm]

He did 6x5kms in 17's and found them easy ...?

[@pierreballester5226]

Lionel you know what you're doing of course but it seems from outside as if you were obsessing excessively with the blood monitoring.

[@alancooper59]

Sounds like you're in the K-hole

[@loulew07]

" Fine line between fitness and health " Dr Phil Maffetone . And cannot train to be younger . Ilness and injuries are part of this tough sport on the body .

[@שריאללרר]

Why is he on a roller and not a trainer?

[@slimpickens8589]

When all the metrics you track are in line with the effort of your session all except your RPE, it may be time to enlist the help of a sports psychiatrist. Stress is hitting Lionel from all angles, the brain can only handle so much.

[@tri-mak1752]

Lionel, Its now about diet! I can hear your body…every single swallow is important

[@ShaneLavell]

Get your blood work done.

[@y3_38]

You need to improve your running style and things will get better

[@nokoastvisuals]

hi

[@CautionBeforeCoffee]

You shouldn’t be training after/during covid it can cause serious heart and health issues.

[@ironmantooltime]

Yea a few of us are calling it covid. I think you can train post vid but you can't ignore elevated heart rate. He shouldould suck it up and run easy indoors in the warm on the treadmill.

[@troycollett8540]

Highly doubt its covid

[@ironmantooltime]

@@troycollett8540 oh right because it doesn't exist?

[@ironmantooltime]

@@troycollett8540 the most highly infectious, prevalent disease in the planet right now and numbnutts says its highly unlikely to be that. Explain, genius, looking forward to you choice comments.

[@troycollett8540]

@@ironmantooltime didn’t say that did I? If he thought it was Covid he would get tested you twerp

[@ironmantooltime]

Sounds like covid buddy. Recovery may take a while.

[@julimov24]

First!

[@aliherbert8519]

Always loved sanders but his ovethinking negative attitude is suppressing now

[@nicolasbauchet7166]

Buy a windproof microphone Talbot !

[@TalbotCoxMedia]

Sorry! 🤣🙈 I actually bought one yesterday hehe thanks for the advice! It’s the small things I forget sometimes