NOT TILL TOO 🫠| VIVINOS - "FINAL | Alien Stage" - REACTION

[@alightanim3145]

THE WAY I BLINKED AND MY BABY BOY WAS GONE.

[@Sutidamuskun]

BLINK. GONE. BLINK. DEAD.

[@alightanim3145]

@@Sutidamuskun “I didn’t cry when you left at first, but now that your dead it hurts” (till to Ivan)

[@Primiss_YT]

LMAO FRR

[@kiwimellon5104]

​@@Sutidamuskun foul😭

[@dance_sunset_maroon]

You blinked and he was gone 😉

[@nikha.e2]

Luka gave hyuna that "babe its not what it looks like" ahh stare AHHAHAH

[@Wakari-p3p]

Notice how Lukas smile immediately dropped seeing hyuna 😂

[@Banpoofs]

Fun fact final is just the middle of the road for alien stage so yes this is not the end yet

[@nanny_uhh]

When i saw that there's at least more 8 chapters, killed me inside, like, what do you mean Sua died on the first one then???

[@kathp.2809]

​@@nanny_uhhwait what?? Where did you see that? I need to confirm 😭

[@nanny_uhh]

@@kathp.2809 Basically, she says that after the final round, there's more 8-10 chapters and then finally ending it

[@takasakisaito1210]

​@@nanny_uhh Wish we could get more of Sua 😭

[@nanny_uhh]

@@kathp.2809 ops, forgot to say it, but it's in Vivino's patreon

[@Wbzqy]

No one can deny that Luka is top tier cosplayer😂

[@Kaslanyan]

Ikr? He doesn't even need to look like them ijbol

[@leonzen2958]

You could even say he's the ULTIMATE Cosplayer!.. get it?

[@leonzen2958]

You could even say he's the ULTIMATE Cosplayer!.. get it?

[@luculias]

Saying this as a luka fan: luka is a case of "abused becomes the abuser" and his alien (heperu, we see it in the interview) practically manipulated and groomed him into this 😭😭 also hyuna gave him a reason to sing, it was something like "it feels like this life is mine" since on stage, he isn't exactly controlled. To Heperu, Luka is not a living being with emotions, he’s nothing more than a product to invest in. It shouldn’t be difficult to realize that Luka’s controlling, manipulative personality and his distorted perception of love all stems from the way he’s treated by Heperu. One of the many skills Luka is trained to master is controlling his heart rate via the heart rate variability(?) test, especially tortuous to someone born with congenital heart disease. There was also artwork of this, and it was when all the cast were children. Luka’s entire life and identity is based on ALNST, it’s his everything. He is created specifically for the stage and has no other purpose in life than being a source of entertainment for the aliens. Everything to his genetics to his mannerisms, are all carefully modified and crafted to satisfy the aliens’ preferences. He’s like a doll in a way. he is incredibly passive and obedient, he has no sense of autonomy nor has he ever tried fighting for it, he fully surrenders and submits to the aliens’ control not only as a result of being brainwashed and groomed into doing so at a young age but also in order to survive. The food preferences comic shows us just how greatly the lack of control in one’s own life affects Luka, it causes him to never fight back or stand up for himself whenever he’s wronged by others, he just allows it to happen. He has the biggest appetite in the group and loves sweet foods but couldn’t eat much due to strict managements, yet he never opposes this even if it’ll do more harm than good to his already weak health (we saw that he's very skinny here, in one of his full body shots at the start, we see his ribs). His tendency to suck on things such as his sleeve (and Hyuna too apparently) is most likely developed as a result of his constant hunger and he’s doing that to temporarily forget and cope with it. Luka genuinely enjoys singing, it’s the only thing that brings him the feeling that his life is his, that he has even just the tiniest bit of control over it. for Luka, he’s manipulating others to insert control over and put them in a more powerless position as a coping mechanism for his own feelings of being controlled and powerless. Luka’s disliking for his popularity has been hinted on multiple instances throughout the entire series, too. In TOP 3, The fact that he’s all alone despite his huge fan base and being claimed to be “living his endless glory days” rlly shows how his fame completely isolates him and what aliens think of him. I think this proves that everyone here suffers, as usual for VIVINOS. SORRY FOR YAPPING HERE BUT THATS AS MUCH AS I COULD GATHER FROM THE ENTIRE ALIEN STAGE AND ALL ARTWORKS FROM VIVINOS AND QMENG!!! kinda sad we didn't get to explore Luka's backstory too.

[@Lyn-iq6de]

One of the main things I noticed watching for the first time is that Hyuna is still bleeding from the injury she got in round 6 which means that the final round probably happened later in the same day. This makes a lot more sense when you think about how stressed Till was and how much Ivan actively affected him during the round, because he JUST saw him die a couple hours ago. My poor boy I’m gonna miss him so much 😭

[@sunni_bunny]

I started barking as SOON as I saw Luka’s back window 😂🙏

[@StAR13-00]

HELP?? (real.)

[@aidenkit0]

16:10 i believe luka's fingertips are like that because he's pretty unhealthy. he couldn't fight back against mizi in round 5, he only could take her punches. every contestant in alien stage was engineered in a lab. and i've heard luka is like a pug in the way they're cute and loved, but have underlying health problems.

[@joshuaraphaelhutahaean223]

But Mizi assaulting him was part of the plan, why would he fight back?

[@nousername4125]

bro tills song "unknown till the end" makes so much sense now.. mizi translates to "unknown" in korean so it just means "mizi till the end" 🤯

[@aothnc]

??? misinfo, who told u mizi means unknown in korean lmao

[@nousername4125]

@aothnc it literally does lmao.. u can even copy paste mizi from anything vivinos posted and it would translate to unknown.. plus literally tons of korean comments making the same connection under round 2 and round 7 comment section so idk what youre trying to disprove

[@nousername4125]

@@aothnc always the till pfps trying to mischaracterise him when tills unrequited love for mizi is a huge part of his character

[@SofieLoaf]

This is happening on the same day as round 6 as Hyuna and Mizi were breaking in at the end. So the blood could be from Ivan though i doubt it. Could be part of the costume. But that's also why Till started bleeding from the nose. Ya boy is STRESSED. Edit: Luka has purple fingers cuz he's chronically ill. He has Asthma, chronic migraines and congenital heart disease apparently.

[@yoona8194]

I’m sorry Luka is SO fine but also manipulative

[@Sutidamuskun]

16:40 WHAT DID I JUST SAY??? 😡😡

[@orxinus]

hyuna angrily waiting for the loading bar to move from 97% is such a mood. all that money from alien stage and yet the aliens couldnt afford fast wifi

[@AFKHaru]

When ''ivan'' looks at Till in the scene he doesn't have the shine, the real ivan always had a white spot when he looked at him, Something I realized is that the little music at the end is Till's heart, little by little it gets slower until Till dies and it's over (Edit 2) By the way, I just read on the VIVINOS Patreon that Hyuna's plan was not to save Till...so she is up to something else But there is a theory that says that there is a possibility that he will survive thanks to the videos that STUDIO LICO uploads where Till has some ''bandages'' on his neck. (edit 1) -And something I'm interested in discovering is, Why is Till's microphone red the entire song but at the end it turns green? (Luka has the color green the entire song and there are many scenes focusing on the red color of Till's microphone for it to be 'nothing')

[@Sutidamuskun]

Great observation :> Ig that supports the theory in the vid

[@Abbysnothere]

The red and green light somewhat represent their mood or something similar to that, Tills light being red for most of the round just represent him stressing out, and his stress relieved when he saw Mizi in the crowd, making the light turn green towards the end!

[@kuwwu]

from my observation, when luka got up close and whispered into his ear it made till think he turned his mic off perhaps? because when he touched his mic, it went from green to red, and thats why i also thought luka was laughing because till accidentally self sabotaged himself thinking his mic was off, yknow?

[@AFKHaru]

​@@kuwwu So the theory that Till lived would make sense, because it wasn't a fair song (I won't lose my hopes XD i want him alive) I also think that the song ended when Luka walked away almost at the end, which is why he was surprised to hear him suddenly sing

[@kuwwu]

@@AFKHaru its definitely possible, and i rly hope he isnt dead, because im pretty sure we all saw his death coming when he was put up against luka,, and the fact that its shown round 7 happened hours after round 6 just makes it so much more sad 😭, like till had no time to even recover from ivan’s death,, they both died on the same day

[@haydenburns6644]

I think the score was more close towards the end because till started singing again (locking in) after seeing mizi which is why Luka looked a bit annoyed and worried when he also saw mizi and how till wasn't being effected by his manipulation

[@Sutidamuskun]

i agree, you can also see Luca getting agitated, which I think was him acknowledging Till was in that very moment outperforming him, and if Till continued like that for long that he'd probably win.

[@책잘읽어주는누나]

"Well, there's our supervillain staring into the eyes of the all-beautiful Hyuna, wondering 'What the fuck are you doing here'..." TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SPOKEN. (Hyuna best girl)

[@feawea]

I FLIPPED OUT WATCHING THIS I CANT DO IT HE CANT BE DEAD HE CANT BE HE CANT BE HE CANT BE

[@miramor6250]

Ivan would be so mad in afterlife TILL WHY ARE U HEREE??!

[@Katesse]

Answer to Luka’s purple fingers, it’s cause he has a health condition(I can’t remember what it’s called) but it’s the reason why he has a heart monitor, which I believe is the cords that he has on besides the collar. And also to answer if Alien stage is done/ended, a few people(allegedly) who have Vivinos’ patron said it’s only halfway done.

[@gotcha_gaby]

Even though im sad about till, the song is such a vibe🔥🔥

[@Sutidamuskun]

yeah this is a dope song even if Till...well...let's not talk about it

[@foecres14]

luka is incredibly good at picking up on people’s weaknesses. the fact that he chooses to torment till with ivan specifically instead of mizi just shows us how much he cared about him whether tills feelings for ivan are romantic or platonic, theyre definitely there, its absolutely undeniable. i really dont like seeing people talk ab how ‘no one would die for ivan, no one cares for ivan’ when its simply not true i wish people understood how important they r to each other without making it ab shipping! ivan calls his feelings shallow because he feels selfish for loving someone he knows hes only going to hurt, not because they’re superficial

[@Abbysnothere]

How I love alien stage, from the scene where Mizi leaves Hyuna to find Till is quite similar to the scene where Till leaves Ivan when they were attempting the escape, the fact Mizi and Till both did that for each other is crazy detail. Two, Tills flashbacks all coming back after Luka simply holds Tills neck, reminding Till of the time he was choked by Ivan, Luka triggered his memory just by the touch. Last, Till getting shot on the neck right in-front of Mizis eyes, the same spot where Sua was shot at the end of round 1. My IvanTill heart really can’t take this. But also, Tills flashback from Mizi smiling to Mizis tears falling on his face makes me sick. (A copypaste of my own comment on the final round video but-) And just some adds on, its really heartbreaking that Till only remember a glimpse of Ivan (+the scene from round 6 that also happened earlier that day) but got a whole flashback for Mizi once he saw her. Also the the score was actually really close if you pause it at the right timing. Its really sad that Till didn’t get to process Ivans death properly before they would meet each other at the afterlife so soon (alnst actually ruined me).

[@FroggyLilypad]

Luka they can never make me like you after this one❤️

[@Sutidamuskun]

SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣️🔊🔊🔥🔥‼️🔥

[@magokoroooooooooo]

they could never make me hate you luka 😋😋😋

[@_Luna-_]

​@@magokorooooooooooSame İ love him

[@honsai7409]

Luka is just #better

[@_Luna-_]

@@honsai7409 Real hes just Like that

[@bigpp_223]

YESSS FINALLY!! IVE BEEN SO HYPE FOR YOUR REACTION

[@Sutidamuskun]

WE HERE!! LETS GOOOOOO 🗣️🔊🔥🔥‼️‼️THANKS FOR WAITING

[@rcsiapno1]

Till: Decent Fair Person Luka: Prince Charming Villain of Shrek 3

[@Shittinghard]

the tip of luka's fingers being blue is a symptom of a heart disease called Raynaud's disease. It causes smaller arteries that supply blood flow to the skin to narrow, and it usually affects the toes or fingers turning them white or blue. In one of vivinos's posts there's a picture of luka doing a "heart rate valuability test" which could be the cause of his fingers maybe

[@az386]

It was actually considerably close between Till and Luka. It was stated that Till and Luka actually have similar talent, but Luka was made and trained to handle and be able to perform well in these situations. Whereas Till's greatest strength and weakness is his emotions. Like there was far more fan support for Luka because it's Luka and the aliens love him. I think the actual final score was 89/ 70. Like Till had a chance in theory, but this was literally hours after Ivan's death.

[@az386]

Also, luka's fingers are permanently purple from a lack of oxygen to his hands. You see it happen in "All In" after he accidentally kills Hyuna's number.

[@mysteria_3868]

luka is not a villain, hes a victim like everyone else. luka isjust trying to survive and put on a facade for the aliens.

[@Sutidamuskun]

well i need him to be nicer about it goddammit 😂🤣

[@yoona8194]

I don’t think so😭 have you seen that short vid of hyuna?

[@Miis4rusHaven]

Finally someone gets it!

[@Miis4rusHaven]

@@Sutidamuskunwell i honestly would have done the same, considering he probably doesnt know much about other contestants and doesnt care about them, except for Hyuna (and maybe Hyunwoo ?)as it was shown in the video All-in.

[@Miis4rusHaven]

@aether3602(help uh i’m pretty sure my orginal comment glitched and got deleted so imma just say it again just incase) Theres a theory that Luka has Norrie disease and that the disease can cause behavioral issues such as acting psychotic and etc. theres a way more detailed explanation in tiktok, i only mentioned the behavioral issues in this comment. (Not being mean btw!! I’m just saying)

[@yui7530]

I am pretty sure luka was born heavily ill and is really malnourished and that why he is the shortest male and only character to have purple fingers as he is slowing dying because of the air

[@TJ-mk5zg]

There's this one theory i seen that i thought was really cool is that the xylophone sound you hear during the flashback with Till and mizi is actually mizi's tears hitting till's face (Its probably one of my favorites ive heard)

[@Banri09]

And that xylophone was a gift from Ivan to Till when they were young :(

[@stacia5767]

Ivan's eyes always had the red pupils so the red in the eyes of 'Ivan' when Till saw Luka as Ivan was just because thats just how his eyes are lol. Also Luka's outfit is waaay different from Ivan's. You can see his outflit clearly in the start and it has that big back and chest window and Ivan's was more a classy suit. His outfit doesn't' change.

[@vanessarl8]

Yeah but I think he meant they are both white outfits

[@stacia5767]

@@vanessarl8 oh just the color? But Luka also always wears white.

[@aggie_ariyo]

my will to live? in a blink, gone!

[@StAR13-00]

Luka and till are my fav characters :((( (1.Luka😍😍 2.Ivan‼️ 3.Till✨)

[@asphyxiatingfish]

LOVE YOUR REACTIONS!!!! WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO IT The thing about Luka’s fingertips being purple is caused by congenital heart disease, and one of the symptoms is the tips of your fingers, toes, etc. turning purple-ish blue! Loved your commentary!!!! Vivinos confirmed on Patreon that this round was the end of this arc, so there’ll be more Alien Stage content🙏

[@Bright_Berry-Roi]

I had to face my trauma to watch your reactions, I’ve been avoiding seeing the thumbnail of Round 7 because of how much it hurt me I miss Till sm already 😢😢💔💔💔

[@ilovemiku-g1r]

Till really went blink gone

[@neptunemars1640]

Luka’s fingers look like that because he has health problems. I believe that was confirmed but idk 😭

[@coronadispine]

yes it was confirmed! i’m no doctor but i believe the name for it is peripheral cyanosis, if you look it up it looks just like luka’s hands. it can happen due to heart issues which is what luka suffers from

[@NostalgiaArtist]

Luka is soooooo messed up bro what is up with that guy man

[@darkhorse4122]

I do feel like the blink gone aspect also can refer to ivan, like till closed his eyes due to believing he was dying and the moment he opens his eyes ivan is falling and then dead. But its def referencing to death in terms of leaving no regrets and such.

[@AureliValentine]

Notice how after ivan died tills signature color was green? Thats because without blue (ivan) green cant be teal. (Teal is Tills usual signature color)

[@AureliValentine]

Lukas fingers are blue because he has like a million chronic diseases/srs Including asthma and some heart disease

[@Tentativa4tadificil]

Although we don't know what was the objective of the hacking, Vivinos on patreon said that Hyuna was not trying to save Till - that is why Mizi left against Hyuna's will. About the score: Till was losing through the round for obvious reasons but at the end he got really close to Luka's score because he recovered thanks to seeing Mizi. Vivinos said that Till is one of a kind talent in Alien Stage (btw his score in round 2 was like 150 which is fucking WILD) and it really shows here as he was in fucking pieces but still was able to hold himself against Luka who is the favorite. Maybe he would have won if there was more time hahahaha *ugly cries*

[@elias..y4]

in the scene where u see mizi and till are kids its actually the sound till heartbeat fading away, when he was a kid ivan gifted him a xilofono, so that mean in the end the one in till heart was actually ivan not mizi but it was too late for till to realize that, till only dolized and saw mizi as god😞

[@neetfishgirl]

vivinos patreon said this video only marks the middle of the story . Meaning I need to see hyuna go up against luka , cus her stats in the art-book showed them maxxed out bro 😭

[@escolastica2926]

19:08 "Ivan cosplay thing" 😭

[@Dllenrnskkenee]

Ive seen someone else comment on the ivan shots speculating that theyre probably representing tills turmoil bc u could also see a sua shot in round 5 which luka mainly covers so u could only catch a small glimpse of it, might be the cosplay thing too as u mentioned😭

[@lemon.n]

FINALLYY

[@Sutidamuskun]

WE FINALLY BACK 🔥🔥

[@ningning5500]

IM RIPPING MY HIAR OUT

[@aothnc]

luka's vocals are insaneeee

[@kittendreamz]

We don't actually know for sure what Hyuna was there to do. In the patreon post, vivinos said that she was not there to rescue Till. Mizi just went rogue to try and do that herself. She explained that we will find out later on what her intentions were though. I feel like she was there to get info on the system and do greater damage at large than focus on the two current contestants. Its just that Mizi couldn't sit by and watch another friend die.

[@rvgdclll]

19:24 Ivan's fingertips are blue like Luka's dk if it helps, i think your theory's right

[@LovelyMae_yt]

Luka they can never make me hate you 💗

[@Sutidamuskun]

I *WILL* change your mind ...believe me 😭😭

[@hasolamu4809]

Same(⁠ ⁠；⁠∀⁠；⁠)

[@SomoneIdkboutu]

Lukas fingers are purple bc he has a heart disease and Hyuna didn’t want to go because Luka killed her brother

[@kimbow1206]

DONT WORRY THEY SAID THAT THERE IS MORE IN STORE!!!!!

[@Everybode]

unrelated but funny coincidence you said it was currently 11:39 and here i am watching this at 11:39

[@Sarahchamorro]

I don't think it's Ivan on the actual screen, it's more of a representation of Till's memories and emotional turmoil over being reminded about Ivan after Luka taunted him.

[@AureliValentine]

Ivans red eyes dont represent death, his eyes turned red any time he looked at something he loved (stars & Till in this case)

[@tilliliv]

FR NO MATTER HOW GOOD LUKA IS IN LOOKS AND SINGING I HATE HIS CHARACTER SO MUCH.

[@akitoisreal]

OGMKAKSNS AA I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO POST 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Sutidamuskun]

IM SORRY I WAS LATE 😭I forgot that the "Oct 26" release date was for KOREA, NOT US 🥲Anywho, we here now lol

[@akitoisreal]

​@@Sutidamuskun LMAOO OH AND BTW, IF U HAVENT NOTICED.. Luka actually has purple finger tips due to some theories of him having a heart disease or an illness that turns his fingers purple (U can see how his fingers turned purple during ALL-IN when Hyuna's brother died!) (not sure if its actually canon haha) >

[@조가현-l5s]

16:02 루카의 손끝은 현아가 메인인 All-In이라는 노래에서 현아 동생을 죽인 후부터 나타난 증상이에요. 이거에 대해 유추해 본 사람들은 척색증이라고 합니다. 그게 나타난 순간부터 점점 파래지는 중...

[@조가현-l5s]

그리고 사실 한국어는 정말 섬세한 것까지 단어로 표현이 가능해요. 예를 들면, 침대에서 뒤척이는 소리를 수십 개의 단어로 설명할 수 있어요. 따라서 영어로 표현되지 못하는 단어가 상당히 있기 때문에 가사에서 느끼는 한국인과 다른 나라의 사람들의 감정이 다를 수도 있습니다. 그건 좀 아쉽네요...

[@조가현-l5s]

그리고 또 그들의 행위에 대해 항상 의문을 품으셔서 드리고 싶은 말씀은, 그들은 무대 위에서 폭력을 행사하지 않아야 하고 노래를 항상 열심히 불러야하며 점수는 처음에 밝힌 후 변동되는 것이 아니라 마지막 쯤에 한 번에 나온다는 것입니다.

[@조가현-l5s]

5라운드에서 미지가 루카를 때린 거에서 루카를 엿먹인 게 아니라 미지의 심리를 이용해 루카를 폭행함으로써 미지는 실격되었어요. 파이널에서 루카가 이번에도 같은 수법으로 틸을 공격했지만 틸이 미지를 보고 정신공격이 통하지 않자 당황한 거고, 틸은 그녀를 발견하곤 노래를 부르지 않아 점수가 확연히 낮아진 거였어요.

[@조가현-l5s]

그리고 6라운드에서 사람들이 잘 모르는 게 있는데, 이반이 처음부터 점수를 진 게 아니고 계속해서 변동되는 중이었고, 노래를 부르지 않으면 점수가 낮아지기 때문에 그는 상황을 막으려 같이 노래를 멈추고 틸을 살해하려는 행동을 함으로써 자신의 점수를 낮힌 거예요. 그리고 무대에사 폭행은 실격이기 때문에 경비가 그에게 총을 쏜 거고요. 그렇게 틸을 살리고 희생한 거랍니다. 여기까지 번역해서 읽으셨다면 감사.

[@조가현-l5s]

라고는 했는데 트위터 보고 다시 달려옴ㅋㅋ 중간에 틸 모습과 나오는 이반의 전광판은 틸 시점의 이반이고, 루카 모습과 나오는 이반의 전과판은 루카 시점의 이반이래요. 그니까 각각 트라우마로 세겨진 부정의 얼굴과 틸을 진심으로 사랑했던 그의 진실된 얼굴을 보여준다네요.

[@omayma_bbh]

Free luka bruh

[@Normal_Lim1]

👁

[@glitch.ccs.bestie]

My glorious king won but at what cost 😞

[@aothnc]

luka's finger have BEEN purple. he has a heart disease which causes his fingers to be purple

[@orxinus]

also idk if u knew this or not so sorry if it sounds rude but i noticed u were trying to pause to get the right frames sometimes. u can go frame by frame using the , and . keys on ur keyboard :D

[@Bright_Berry-Roi]

Metro Booming make it Boom…

[@iscamlittlekids]

if evil why hot 😔 PS: LMAO I ALSO THINK LUKA MIGHT HAVE TURNED OFF TILLS MIC AT LIKE 2:05 BC IT TURNS RED NAH THATS DIABOLICAL

[@shalicc]

No it's the same kind of device as their collars that show how they feel.

[@shelbymcbride4688]

Where tf is Hyunas song reaction to all in .

[@AriXiao]

Luka isnt a villain. Stop saying stuff like that.