Not Worth It! New Carry Guns Have Gone TOO Far

[@glenhar1225]

Why would anyone not like choice, innovation, advancements, and sales for local gun dealers and gun companies to survive and thrive? Let innovation run free and let the free market decide. Bottom line has always been if you dont like it or cant afford it, dont buy it. Or do. Its up to you. Its up to us. Good review Heg. Do more same models, comped vs uncomped reviews.

[@Sandhill1988]

Agreed. There is also an old saying to that. "A fool and his money will soon be separated" "Caveat Emptor"

[@Starman-yt8lj]

Well said. 👏🏻

[@t3r083]

Gun guys need to promote healthy living, physical fitness it’s going to help you far more in the long run. Self protect yourself from the corporations pushing trashy but tasty “food”

[@donaldramey1896]

Exercise, cut the sugar, carbs and pocessed foods. Concealed carry is so much easier when not trying to conceal your spare tire.

[@vettevegas]

I love my Jframe, thanks.

[@johnc6496]

100%

[@bradhertzler4451]

​@@donaldramey1896NO!!!!! Do NOT cut carbs!!! Your brain operates off sugar, so you need sugar (carbs) for your brain to function!!!!

[@DILLIGAF88]

Things have gotten stupid. These tacticool fools have taken guns that are meant to be concealed carried and added so munch crap on them that you might as well be carrying a full size pistol

[@pedrocols]

I am not even a fan of having a red dot on a EDC.

[@depthcharge6215]

Here in CA, we are limited to such features. I needed something for CCW with full grip. Only choice for me was p365 macro comp. I need my pinky and all other compacts you dont have the pinky on mag release/insert. Could careless about comp which barely does anything other than excess heat. I need my grip to an already snappy small hg.

[@skillet4068]

My 10 year old M&P Shield still has everything it needs.

[@ZuZaarr]

I disagree. Sure a p365 XL comp may be the same length and height as the p320, but it's a whole lot slimmer. In the end it's a feature rich slim full size with an extra 2 rounds of capacity.

[@leifhoklin2681]

I’ve come full circle. Started caring full-sized guns, then a G19.3 for several years. Then went to micro-mines to include the S&W shield, Kahr PM9, etc. Ended up back carrying a G19.5 cut for a dot with a Holosun 508t. I can’t justify carrying a small pistol regularly when I’m so much more capable with the Glock 19.

[@JB-uw5yh]

At the range we had a mixed group of 10 experienced and new shooters. Ran some drills from multiple positions and distances up to 25 yrds, iron sites only, using OWB holsters. P365 Spectre comp, G19, Hellcat pro comp, SW 2.0 compact, and SW shield plus. Very similar results with all pistols and all shooters. The experienced shooters did a lot better standing and squared to the target, but from other positions, on the move, and one handed it was a lot more similar. Experienced shooters did better overall, but all shot well. Our goal was to evaluate the pistols performance for self defense, and usability, not the shooters skill or target shooting. P365 Spectre comp and SW 2.0 compact were scored as favorites to shoot but all scored well. Take away,,, get a quality gun, comp or no comp, get a gun comfortable to carry, get some legit training, practice, and you will be prepared for general self defense shooting.

[@PBAJ10]

I don't want comps, ports, lasers or dots on a close distance tool. I prefer simple and stock.

[@USP9mmCoolAid]

👊 Likewise

[@purpleshogun6488]

I'm proud to be gun Amish I don't care what the tactifools say

[@IndependentArmz]

The best thing you can have is a bright light if its for your nightstand. Either on your gun or in your hand, but atleast a light.

[@realtalk3653]

I completely agree!!! Point and shoot self defense situations are the vast majority !!

[@alwaysmakinglyrics7340]

Agreed. It's not for hitting targets over 10 yards in competition. In a defense situation you don't have time to look through optics

[@AMXSShirt]

I’m okay with simple, compact, durable, reliable, no comp, no dot, DA/SA

[@maybe5883]

De-cocker only as well please.

[@AMXSShirt]

@ yes, good call.

[@vinceparke5740]

I would love a Canik Mete in DA/SA, just like the V2 with the decocker. I'll be waiting forever.

[@LoneStarLawman]

My two cents. A concealed carry pistol, when using for self defense, is usually at conversational distances, which is what? Maybe five yards? More like less than three yards. You basically only have time to point and shoot. Hopefully with iron sights, you might have just enough time to see very briefly the front sight. Having an optic, is fine, but you will not have the time and distance, to bring that red dot to eye level, making it useless. At longer distances, of course you will be able to use it. Compensators at close distances will make no difference, IMO.

[@4RunnerRigatoni]

Lol sig is by far the biggest hype brand. They just add one more "feature" to their 365 or 320 and charge a few hundred more for it. Then they pay a bunch of shills to hype it up all over youtube for 6 months until the next model comes out and it starts all over

[@cymanca]

And now there is a subtle push on the 380 since they are almost out of gimmicks on 9mm

[@4sake123]

@@cymanca Yup. My prediction is that pocket pistols are going to be next popular thing with how much hype the S&W bodyguard 2.0 is getting. Won't be long before we start seeing other companies jump on the bandwagon and start adding gimmicks that ultimately defeats the whole "pocket" purpose like they did with conceal carry pistols.

[@delb15]

Facts

[@sakfpv8444]

i feel like a lot of people (including myself) like having these red dot, comped, larger mags available(with a flush fit for carry) mainly because most of us can only have 1 or 2 pistols. id like a gun to carry everyday, but also be fun to shoot for range days, those tiny 2 finger grip micro 9s are snappy as hell i know iknow, just train. most of us cant spend 2-3k rounds just to tame a pistol with a pinky-less grip. im a big fan of these micro 9s, 1" thick, 10-13 round mags and a comp that doesnt add length, but shoots a little nicer for range days or shooting apples in the backyard.

[@rustythefoxcoon5143]

Am I a freak then for being able to one hand the 8.75 inch barrel 500 mag after 100 rounds? It’s growing on me. Lol

[@captainshaq]

I carry the Sig P365 AXG Legion (expansion ports), rotating with a P365 X-Macro Icarus precision aluminum grip, 365 slide with Radian Ramjet + Back burner compensator (original recoil spring). Both compensated guns show 100% reliability with well over 1000 rounds of mixed 115, 124 & 147 grain range ammo (and some 135 +p Hornady Flaxtip to test my carry ammo). Very flat shooting. Double-taps at 10 yards are piece of cake. No issues on optic front lens. Highly recommended.

[@straight_adventure712]

I carry the p365x Spectre comp with a Sharp's module and it runs like a dream!

[@Sleepy731]

@@captainshaq i daily a p365 with around 1k. I love it but lets be honest here. While sig is inovated, looks good and performs well. The sig doesnt have longevity or reliability of running 15k flawless like a glock. Its not unusual to see a post on The Sig forums of guys needing some type of warn out or rusted springs/parts replaced at around 2-4k.

[@captainshaq]

@@Sleepy731 I appreciate the comment, but my experience is different. I've had Sig's (P226, P320, P365) and Glocks (G22, G19, G17) for close to 35 years. Between being a competitor and an instructor, I don't even want to speculate on how many rounds I went through between the two brands. I have never had any breakage on either brand. That said, like you, I've seen other people's Sigs break, but I've also seen plenty of Glocks break over the years. One of the reasons I always (not most times, always) clean my guns after each and every range session is to inspect the firearm and look for any abnormalities so I can preempt any issue. I think this is a discipline many gun owners simply don't appreciate. Lastly, if one brand delivers (for me at least) much better (and I mean MUCH BETTER) performance than the other - I will gladly choose it over one that may just last longer.

[@randysretired2020]

How do you like that Radian Ramjet? I just ordered one for my G19.

[@captainshaq]

@@randysretired2020 Love it. I have it for my G17 as well. Honestly it made me shoot my Glock a lot more since I put it on, makes it so much faster - and cleaning is a breeze with the tampered screw.

[@JOBENWING]

I like vanilla bean ice cream and the truth is vanilla ice cream has been pleasing generations after generations of people before all these crazy Ben and Jerry flavors became a thing. I carry a stock Glock 19

[@robertnelson5660]

Comp or no comp. Always carry! Nice video!

[@Hegshot87]

Thanks man

[@johnshepherd9676]

The humble markseman pointed out that comped guns are more prone to limp wristing. And you are more likely to limp wrist in a high stress situation. Comped guns came out of competition where fractions of seconds count. That is probably not enough difference to make difference in a DGU. It is a gimmick to get you to buy a new gun.

[@cavalieroutdoors6036]

It may not make a difference in a DGU, but it *will* make a difference in your enjoyment of taking the pistol out for range day. For the most part, if something isn't fun - people aren't gonna do it. Shooting a small snappy gun ain't what I call fun. One of the reasons that I shifted back to carrying full size pistols is even knowing all of what I just typed, and knowing I need to train with my small gun(s) - I am not going to do it. On the range I hate the CSX. I hate the Hellcat Pro. I hate the P365 (yea, I said it). But I like the M&Ps, CZ P01, even my 1911. And I don't need a gimmick to buy a new gun. I am a simple creature. See gun. Like gun. Have funds for gun. Buy gun.

[@johnshepherd9676]

@cavalieroutdoors6036 The difference it could make in a DGU is that you have to handle the gun with one hand, you limp wrist resulting in a stovepipe and then you die. I have two safes filled with long guns and pistols. I only carry three of them.

[@bradhertzler4451]

​@@johnshepherd9676 practice one hand shooting and you won't limp wrist. I shoot 40S&W out of a Shield 2.0 and I shoot it strong hand only and off hand. No matter what a DGU throws at me, I've trained for it, physically and mentally. I play scenarios in my head all the time, even at home. If I'm using the restroom, I think about where my wife is on the couch and how I can act to make sure I don't hit her if someone breaks in while I'm answering mother nature's call, among other scenarios. I live in a 2 story rental and my safe is in the garage, so I keep several firearms on the second floor, in case something happens when I'm upstairs. Being prepared is key in any situation, but especially in a DGU.

[@rustythefoxcoon5143]

Yet we can just add a comp and threaded barrel ourself if we want it.

[@Quantiples]

One more thing, people always say comps dirty up the optic window more, but I just don’t have that same experience. It seems the oil/residue blowback comes from the ejection port, not the comp. Maybe I’m wrong, but I’ve been paying attention to this for a while now when shooting.

[@rushthezeppelin]

Agreed, that's why Smith made that little cut in the breach face of all their new models. It actually works great too.

[@bruceb9515]

​@@rushthezeppelinI bought a M&P 2.0 optics ready, 4.25" . My Holosun dots glass gets fouled and very dirty and noticeable at about 150rd count. I wonder which models or batches got the cut your referencing?

[@rushthezeppelin]

@bruceb9515 maybe it's just the carry comp models

[@djups0686]

​​@@bruceb9515The new Carry Comp models. It's called the ClearSight™ Cut. Maybe they'll retro-roll it into their existing line.

[@Quantiples]

@ I have the P365X macro comp and the non-compensated version which is the P365X macro Tacops and there’s no difference in how dirty the optic gets after shooting

[@kawikadavid8958]

My glock 26 all stock is still doing good for me.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Yeah but, the glock is just the same as the sig from 20 years ago.

[@SigmaSheepdog]

Yes, it's small, simple, and effective. No other bullshit accessories needed.

[@kylejones9262]

Is it tho?

[@searchforthetruth1]

Me too! I especially enjoy my backup mags 19x (19+1) and g17 (17+1) with me in addition to the flush fit 10 round magazine

[@kawikadavid8958]

@@kylejones9262 Yup and one of the most versatile guns ever made.

[@Shenmue06]

It seems like they want to improve everything except for the trigger 🤦. A good trigger is far more important than a comp or things like front serrations. For an example the hellcat pro comp is worthless to me because the trigger is garbage.

[@ZuZaarr]

Get a Canik for a good trigger

[@External2737]

I'm an old dude. Once I became familiar with a gun, I stopped looking. I have the original shield. Not a plus or an EZ, I am good enough with a shield.

[@SWo-fj5xv]

The familiarity thing became much more important to me as I got deeper into adulthood and just didn’t have the time to dump hours and rounds into every new thing out there. I’ve tried a bunch of new options in the last 15 years and each time I just keep coming back to a Gen3 G19. It just fits me and I’m fine with that.

[@rburch20]

I seriously considered upgrading my shield 2.0 to the plus because the slightly wider palm swell fit my hand better and extra capacity is a nice bonus. Then I realized a rubber grip sleeve is much cheaper. I also picked up the magguts aftermarket to make the mags 10rds and have a shield plus for about $60.

[@jeffcorkern6211]

I would to see a physicist or an engineer calculate and/or measure the actual upward force difference. What is the upward force difference of comped and uncomped? My instinct is the difference would not be significant but I could be wrong.

[@donaldramey1896]

Your intelligence is refreshing. Thank you.

[@bradhertzler4451]

I think it's more about feel than science and one person might feel the comp does more than another person, on the same gun. So for one person, they may want the comp, but the other person wouldn't.

[@Jaylee-956]

I was late on buying the hc pro I finally got it and two months later the pro comp released... i was pissed about that... and I'm like nah I ain't buying the same gun just because it's comped now... this video makes me feel better about my decision..

[@Na7ure]

I absolutely love my hellcat pro comp. Recently picked it up for my new edc. I have about 350 rounds on it and so far it’s been excellent

[@jameskelly7782]

I still carry a full size pistol for my EDC..... now get off my lawn......comforting, not comfortable.

[@steveo5999]

I carry a p10c or p01. I’m waiting on the delivery of a shield plus because I want something comfortable at my driving job

[@jameskelly7782]

@steveo5999 👍...I'm old.

[@steveo5999]

@@jameskelly7782 lol my compact digs into my hip all day while I’m bouncing around in a truck. Time to try the baby gun

[@Claimjumper55]

I carry the Hellcat in it's stock configuration. I put the threaded barrel and comp on it for range days. The comp, and extra weight of it, does make it more enjoyable to shoot, but I prefer the smaller size for carry.

[@joleitch82]

My two favorite EDC I like carrying is my CZ P07 and SAR 9x absolutely love the grip stippling on both and both are very accurate.

[@pandasrtasty]

The cz is a solid reliable choice. I believe if the gun is ergonomic and the trigger is comfortable then it will help your accuracy and of all the guns I've shot over the years I have never handled a sidearm more comfortable.

[@Derekforeal]

Comp, red dot, flashlight, and 15 minimum. Merica!

[@seanmcmaster4856]

@@Derekforeal 10+1 and extra mag in my commie state.

[@AikiRonin21]

My first off duty carry purchase was a Springfield 1911 V-10. It was a compact 6+1 1911 that was ported. Being a smaller pistol, initially ports sounded like a great idea, to help keep the muzzle down while firing. At the range, it was fine enough to shoot, but I noticed after a range session I felt like I had film all over my face and hands. Eventually, I was able to get on the range by myself, and decided to take the opportunity for some low light practice. Yeah, those ports out two almost vertical flashes on either side of the front sight. Then, I did some more combat oriented shooting, and when shooting from a more retention based position, I was literally sending blast from the ports up toward my face. The next day, I purchased a Sig P220 and carried it until 2014, when I switched to a P229(.357SIG) to get more rounds in the mag, and I had wanted a .357SIG for nearly a decade by then.

[@anthonycanterbury5813]

Awesome choice.

[@leekellerking]

As an introduction, I'm a bit of an outlier myself. My current EDC is a Glock 34 with Mag-na-Ported barrel and slide. My previous EDC was a Glock 48 but I was beginning to think it was a bit too small for my hands and I occasionally had a problem dropping magazines. I won the G34 in a GSSF indoor match raffle and was going to use it as my competition gun in GSSF and IDPA. But then I discovered it would fit into the same holster as my G19. I realized that a large number of people who had earned a Turbo Pin from Gabe White, had been using a G34 from concealment. (I am, by the way, quite happy that I earned a Dark Pin from Gabe using the G34). Then, in an effort to maximize the G34s capabilities in IDPA, and after ported barrels were legalized and Carry Optics, I sent it out to Larry Kelly's son at Mag-Na-Port, and in my humble opinion, It was well worth the $185 plus shipping. For example, shooting the IDPA short qualifier, I find my scores higher with the ported barrel then with an unported one. And of course, with the ported barrel and slide I can use all the same holsters that I already had.

[@MJA5]

like everything else, wait five minutes for the next hotness. Their business model requires you to go buy it. Does a 2006 Camry still go down the interstate? Yeah, no lane assist buuuut.

[@Tora1337]

Hilariously if I drive any new vehicle if it's possible to turn the nannies off, I do so. I never needed lane assist and never will. Just like all the other "innovations" that make the car "smarter" than the driver. The smarter/more automatic you make the car, the stupider drivers become. Takes away the feel of actually driving. I dislike intensely.

[@cgsimons1187]

The Hellcats are interesting little pistols. Having double stack mags and being about as thin as some of the older pistols which use single stack mags. I sometimes think about retiring my old pistol and purchasing a new one. Though in all probability the one I have will likely be sufficient. A consideration about compensated pistols is what may happen if you must use them in close quarters. If an attacker is extremely close, you might want to avoid extending your arm out at them fully and offering them a better opportunity to disarm you. Yet if you fire from the hip, the ports would possibly be blasting hot gasses and powder towards your face and eyes.

[@OutdoorOptimist]

@cgsimons1187 Naw. I have a Sig p365 X Macro with the comp. I took a class where we fired from the hip right after draw, fired with two hand grip at solar plexus level just a foot and a half below my face, and then extending out towards full length / sight picture. Blast/powder in my face wasn't noticeable. Getting gassed by some suppressed AR's is much worse.

[@cgsimons1187]

@@OutdoorOptimist Very good info to know. ty!

[@searchforthetruth1]

SIG’s strategy the past ten years. Create a gimmick nobody asked for. Subtly promote it themselves but then pay “influencers” to influence and insist they carry it EDC and that you should too. Cough cough Shawn Ryan

[@Sleepy731]

@@searchforthetruth1 influencers are the best salesmen in the industry. I been using stanley cups for years. Theyre good, but not the best. All or a sudden influencers made them popular and the prices sky rocketed!

[@rowdyghost4713]

You single out sig like they are the only one doing this. Every gun manufacturer uses influencers to promote a new product. It’s called marketing bud.

[@tom4331]

Ha you ain't wrong

[@searchforthetruth1]

@ name one influencer Glock paid.

[@ryanzhang4897]

@@searchforthetruth1 they make good guns tho 🤷‍♂️

[@Quantiples]

Comps absolutely make a difference. It’s all about fast followup shots. Also, if you’re looking for the best compact carry gun with built in comp, you need to compare the p365 xmacro comp alongside whatever else you are deciding between

[@steveo5999]

@@Quantiples what about the velocity loss from the already skimpy 3” barrels? Maybe its a negligible difference

[@Quantiples]

@ yes it’s negligible. There are videos testing comp vs non-comp and for defensive purposes, it’s inconsequential. You may lose between 9-50 fps depending on your ammo.

[@LeadSlinger_]

@steveo5999 that is a non-issue seeing as how you barely lose any velocity. You might lose 50fps at most, but you will most likely will only be losing about 10-15fps.

[@ILikeCheeseOnBees]

@@steveo5999the comp is within the slide in some versions I think. Not right over the barrel right? 🤔

[@steveo5999]

@@ILikeCheeseOnBees yea I’ve seen that on some. I own very few guns and none have comps or ports so I don’t know much about the topic

[@EdMichrina]

I have the exact same gun you are showing. First striker gun from a hammer. It took a little getting used to. But I got used to it. My eyes were a little old for open sights, but after time love it . The comp does make a little difference and I like that. Shield sight is good but don't like shooting from a dark room to a lit room but still acceptable. No problems with reliability, bottom line, I shoot very well with it and even with the price tag I'm glad to carry it on and off duty.

[@brianadam123]

Reliability and shootability are the things that matter most in CCW. A gun can have 5+ more rounds than others, optics ready, a comp, and be uber small. But can you shoot it comfortably? Will it always go bang reliably? Who cares about the bells and whistles when you can’t handle the firearm well. Just get a stock Glock that fits your hands and call it a day. I personally carry a Gen 3 Glock 26 with the factory oem 12 rd magazines. Only thing I’ve changed was the mag release to the oem extended one (Gen 5 doesn’t need it), and I’m changing the sights to night sights just for my personal preference. The stock sights are serviceable, as much as the internet would like to tell you otherwise.

[@xmarchyy4850]

Y’all are complaining that guns are coming with attachments that help you be a better shooter? Yall some cry babies man 😂

[@themightycrixus1131]

You dont know what you are talking about

[@user-zv2eu1vj4l]

Not complaining here. I just find it comical to see all those attachments on a sidearm that has resulted in a “steampunk” image. Because of its small size, a handgun is meant to be discreetly WORN when outside the confinements of the shooting range. I’m ok with all the “bells and whistles” on what has been aptly described as a “range toy:” a flamboyant expression of affluent means applied to a once-stolid piece of hardware designed for personal protection against the miscreant segment of the population. It’s a free market and innovation MUST flourish! Practicality, sensibility, and logic must also exist to support the prime objective of a handgun: self defence. For it to BE useful, it must BE with the owner as much as possible and it must be convenient to wear or carry it. Having all those attachments makes it quite prohibitive to do so. There appears to be a trend that focus on handgun products on opposing ends of the purpose continuum. On one end is the large-frame, “tricked-out” custom high-capacity “wüundernine” for sport, amusement, and braggadocio. I highly suspect that this may invariably BE rooted in the timeless adage of “oneupsmanship.” So be it. At the opposite end is an equally vivid trend towards the “carry piece,” a CCW practice once represented by the derringer, .25 & .32 caliber “belly guns” of yore and folklore. What I find disturbing is that while training is often with the larger sidearm, it is somewhat avoided with the smaller, frequently carried handgun since the recoil is much more unpleasant. Someone here WILL LIKELY respond with an assertion that they train with that diminutive pocket gun they carry. Good for you but have you spent enough time researching the most effective ammunition FOR defending yourself with that short-barrel handgun?

[@TyTy_TheGuy]

That's What I Love About The Gun Industry, I Don't Agree With You But That's Okay, We All Get Something We Want. I Have All The Bells And Whistles On My AXG Legion And It's The Smoothest, Most Reliable Handgun I've Ever Used, But That Doesn't Mean You Have To Like It Or Vice-Versa.

[@Tom-cp6yj]

Too many pistols are coming out built for competition rather than self-defense these days.. pretty dumb!

[@Darthdoodoo]

KZbinrs have been a blessing and a curse. They got more people into guns but they also push silly trends for the gun companies

[@tylerthomason9461]

Personally I do carry gun competitions and having a shield plus comp as both my carry and competition gun is nice.

[@Evanstonian60201]

There's very little competition use for a compensated carry pistol. A USPSA Open division pistol, for example, looks and shoots nothing like a carry pistol with compensator holes. And on the flip side, divisions where a "reasonable" pistol can be competitive don't allow compensators. These are meant for the tacticool folks, not for competitors. Oh, and, of course, at night a compensator on a 9mm still won't do much for recoil reduction, but will give you a pretty unpleasant muzzle flash.

[@andershilmo1866]

@@tylerthomason9461I like the options. I carried an sig macro comp nice gun. I like my p10s with an extended mag better. I just shot it better. To each their own.

[@Deevel79]

This is why my edc is a plain ole Glock 42.

[@phillipsheppard5361]

The 4 most important things to me (personally) when it comes to my EDC are, in order: 1.) Reliability. 2.) Shootability (which isn’t even a word). 3.) Comfort and 4.) Capacity I realize that no sub, or micro compact is going to shoot as well as their full size brethren, and that’s okay with me. All I want is something simple, reliable and comfortable that has decent capacity and is a decent shooter. I don’t need all the bells and whistles. That said, if other people want something fancier more power to them.

[@scotchnstogies5618]

This is why I only have 4. Glock 19 gen 4, Beretta 92 X compact, Shield 9, 2.0 and a 642 Airweight. All been around a while and nothing new is any better or does anything my carry guns can’t.

[@lestersybert]

I have several hand guns and I bought the Hellcat whenever it first came out and I will say that it is a little bit Snappy to shoot. I bought the P365 X Macro after that and put a Holosun Green Dot on it and that's what I Conceal Carry nowadays. I've shot several other newer comped guns that definitely shoot softer than my X Macro... But not enough to justify my upgrading to one of them unless I was just wanting to Add another pistol to the collection... which I usually add one a year to it just because you can Never have too many Pew Pews!

[@AlllenBundy]

Here in Minnesota, wearing multiple layers of clothing is a way of life in the winter. Multiple layers of clothing adversely affect bullet expansion. A higher muzzle velocity helps overcome expansion issues through multiple layers of clothing. So I'll take the longer uncompensated barrel producing a higher muzzle velocity. For practical concealed carry I also prefer iron sights. I presently carry either a Sig P365 or a P365XL depending upon my clothing requirements of the day. I plan to buy a P365 Fuse with its longer slide and 4.3" barrel this month. Hopefully I can manage the extra length of the barrel and slide and still be able to conceal carry it. I've already cut down an XMacro grip module to handle a MagGuts modified 14 rd magazine. We will see how well it works for concealed carrying. At worst, the longer barrel and slide will still work well for open carry while camping.

[@Maddad_39]

Carry whatever you want. For me, all the new gizmos and gadgets get in the way and hinder me from every day all day carrying. Smaller, thinner, and more comfortable means I will be more likely to have it when I need it verses a "better" one I won't have because of fit or comfort.

[@BeersYourFriend]

I think carrying a comped firearm is ok, but I wouldn't recommend it, especially if it's a 22LR. I hope to god that these gun companies do not ever put out an edc pistol with a ported 22LR, because those rounds are filthy. I just recently purchased a Taurus TX22C Compact 22LR, for going to the range on the cheap. It's 5 cents per round, so you can shoot all day long, and have a good little time with it. Or, go plinking if you live far enough away from town, which I'm not unfortunately. So, on my first day going to the range with my new Taurus TX22 Compact, I just had to test out some of my 5.56 and 9mm compensators. Man, it only took one stupid shot and I had a face full of gunpowder. I could taste it, it got in my eyes, it was a total mess. lol. Yes, I was wearing my protective glasses but not even that was enough to protect me from the elements. If the wind wants to blow a gust a certain way, well you better be careful. It was a cloudy of gun powder that I've never seen happen with any of my other comped guns. I was ok, I just took that comp off immediately, and said I'm never shooting this gun comped ever again. After that one shot from a comped 22LR, that was when I finally understood what people meant when they said how dirty a 22LR caliber round are. 22LR's are a ton of fun, but are nasty rounds. They are dirty as hell! There really is no need to use a compensator on a 22LR pistol, since there is little to no recoil. Anyways, that being said, I've never been much of a fan of compensators. When you fire a gun you want the ejection of all the lead and gunk to travel away from you. Don't have it thrown up in the air to help with recoil. If you shoot a lot, you better get some lead wipes and learn the proper ways of protecting yourself after you leave the gun range. You DO NOT want to get lead poisoning that can happen very easy. Once you are done shooting, you must wash your hand before touching anything. Or else, you spread lead from your hands to your cars door, the belt buckle, the steering wheel, then your homes door knobs, and it will spread in ways most never even think about. It doesn't matter what caliber round you are using, it is still possible to get a face full of gunpowder if ported. So, if the wind decides to blow on the one day you really need that gun, you better hope to god the the wind doesn't blow your way. It is not worth a cloud of smoke getting in your eyes. Gunpowder goes everywhere, but much less so with an un-ported or non-comped pistol. What's the moral of this story? Be careful with your guns, and be careful about lead exposure. You do not want to get sick. So, I highly suggest not using a compensator, unless its not windy out. Or, you are in a very ventilated indoor range, which lets be honest, most ranges aren't very well ventilated, which means you should limit your time when it comes to indoor ranges to lessen the exposure of lead. While 22LR's are fun and compensators are fun, I personally would not recommend due to significantly higher exposures to lead. Keep that powder flowing forward, Not up in the air. Great video Hegshot87, - Cheers!

[@rawbellco49]

Glock 19c gen3 was the first Comp / Ported EDC that I owned. I have the 19c Gen 4 now in my EDC rotation.

[@sfoti6973]

Comps aren't really a NEED, but as long as it doesn't negatively impact reliability, take all the advantages you can get.

[@Diz33]

With my old eyes failing me, not complaining..just fact. A laser or a red dot has helped me feel comfortable and confident in protecting my family. Not wanting to put extra stuff on my carry or household guns. Just a necessity at this point in my life

[@Jmpr12]

I remember the first era of compensated guns. This too shall pass as before.

[@brudy6021]

For EDC defensive purposes, this is just the latest gimmick in my opinion. Just give me a quality gun with good iron sights and I’m good to go. If you want to check something out that’s not a gimmick then take a look at North Forest Arms iron sights. I put them on my Glock 19…total game changer. As always, thanks for another great video.

[@MrScott3060]

My VP9sk with the Holosun scs optic works just great for me. I feel you can carry what ever you want, If you want to carry a S&W 500 with a scope then do so if it works for you.

[@stanthebamafan]

Ported barrels are fun, but usually factory ports/comps leave a lot to be desired. I know with S&W’s ported guns that came out recently, a lot of people are disappointed and are sending their barrels to aftermarket companies to get additional ports drilled.

[@alexsherel3344]

Just get 365 x, with the bigger grip for more founds. If you want it comped get one aftermarket. They’re better anyway. Don’t like the bigger grip, just get the 365…problem solved.

[@johndilday1846]

I regularly carry a Glock 17 and. Kahr K9 (in my pocket as a BUG). I did so when working and now that I am retired I haven’t changed my routine. If I feel the need to not carry the full size, I just carry the Kahr. Works for me. Folks just worry too much. I learned years ago how to make a larger sized gun work for me, and if I can do it, anyone can. Good luck.

[@brianreeves9404]

What back surgery did you get? I had an ALIF L5/S1 fusion 4 years ago and a spinal cord stimulator installed this past spring.

[@ArizonaGunsDave]

I don't think the carry guns themselves have gone too far, it's the people who own them that have gone too far with what they do to their guns. I will use Glock as an example, people trick out their Glocks like they are tricking out their trucks. They change the slide, recoil spring, triggers, barrels and the list goes on and on. I have a Glock 19 Gen 5 and have had it for about a year and it looks exactly the same as the day I bought it because the gun works and works every time. As an EDC I am not going to compromise the integrity and reliability of an already working firearm but apparently 99.9% of gun owners out there didn't get the memo on this. Again it's not the gun in my opinion it's "Gun Guy"

[@Swampytheroot]

I have several OG MagnaPort modified revolvers and autos. The P365 SAS ported version is that type of comp. I like it The problem with the way some others do it, it's just a directed blast vent to force the vent down. There's an art to doing it so the gasses are pushing down and away from line of sight at exactly the rate to keep everything aligned

[@troybond5426]

I really like the Springfield Armory micro-compact Hell 9mm Hellcat . Very easy to comfortably conceal in my pocket. Fun to shoot.

[@CameronLestagez]

idk every product gets upgraded in the consumer market pistols are one of them , you don’t have to buy it but there is a demand so they maker will produce them. dont look too much into it

[@garyK.45ACP]

Typical personal self defense shooting: 3 shots (or less) at 3 yards (or less. Some say 3 feet or less) in 3 seconds (or less). My primary EDC _personal defense_ handgun does not have a red dot sight, 'ports', laser or flashlight. The trigger pull is extra heavy (DAO hammer fired) and has regular fixed sights. There is no manual safety (other than a long heavy trigger pull) and no 'hammer drop', because the hammer is always down. It works exactly like a DA revolver. Pull the trigger when you want to fire. Don't pull the trigger if you don't want to fire. It is not a target gun, range gun or competition gun. It is a _personal self defense_ gun. I have many other guns for range, competition or target shooting. It is 100% reliable with my _personal self defense_ ammo (Federal HST 150 gr. 'micro') and my 122 gr. cast lead RN practice handloads. My primary EDC is a S&W Model 3914 DAO 8+1 capacity I have had for 30 years. It is exactly the way it came out of the box. I haven't found anything to make me change since. Given all the choices we have today, if I were buying a new handgun today for EDC, I would seek out a _used_ S&W Model 3914 DAO 8+1 capacity.

[@motorsport2k]

@garyK.45ACP 3 yards you mean

[@garyK.45ACP]

@@motorsport2k Feel free to read what I wrote. Read carefully. Interpret literally.

[@craigcicerello4289]

The 3, 3, 3 thing is an over/under. As in, 50% of civilian shootings occur within 3 meters, 50% last 3 rounds or less... and so on. That means 50% are more. But diminishing returns means that Civilian self defense uses rarely go over 10 rounds, rarely go over about 10 meters. So, your 3914 is going to be fine in the vast majority of times you many need it.

[@garyK.45ACP]

@@craigcicerello4289 Good thing. I've been carrying it for 30 years.

[@craigcicerello4289]

@@garyK.45ACP That wasn't an attempt to be or sound patronizing, sorry. I just get tired of some who go on about how .380s, revolvers, guns that hold less than 15 rounds and so on are just incapable of being adequate self defense guns. Those that think we all need optics in case we have to make that 50 meter shot, ridiculous WMLs to better aid doing room to room clearances of our own homes, and if we don't when we are a bunch of luddite FUDs who just don't care enough about, or spend enough on, self defense....

[@douglasdaugherty5337]

I just got the Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 Carry Comp 9mm with the polymer frame. Shot it at the range today. It was a fun gun to shoot. But it will not be replacing my Smith and Wesson Equalizer 9mm as my regular carry gun because of the size.

[@stoppardstop]

@@douglasdaugherty5337 i tried carrying mine but went back to my hellcat pro because it's more comfortable

[@georgeyoung4188]

My carry is an original Shield Pro Shop .45 with the factory barrel and slide comp cuts... and a very nice trigger. I shoot a lot in the dark in Alaska and have never had a problem with the minimal amount of upwards flash. The normal flash from the end of the barrel. The only options I've added to this gun were adjustable tritium nite sights and the Hyve quality mag extension that gives me one more round than the factory +1 magazine.

[@lefmk7085]

If you don't mind - how have the Hyve extensions worked out? I have a 2.0 Shield 40 and was thinking about giving them a try. Thanks!

[@georgeyoung4188]

@lefmk7085 I first bought two and then bought three more. They have been flawless. They can only be used on the factory +1 mags and not the flush fit. You do need to remove the floor plate on the original mags by simply slipping it off. I cut one floor plate down so it would fit in the new Hyve extension but it seemed to mess things up, so it ends up being just the plain spring with the same factory follower. No probkems so far.

[@DropTine987654321]

I don’t know if I want a small compensated concealed carry gun. I have the hellcat pro and a p365 not ported and I can shoot both effectively with no optics. I haven’t shot the compensated versions of those guns so I can’t say from experience, but I think there’s some risk of burning yourself in a really messed up fight if you can’t shoot like you normally would.

[@truthtold9084]

A true ccw pistol does not need a comp, optics or a flashlight. These are gimmicks to make the consumer spend more money. However, if it just for the range that’s different but if the shit hits the fan and you draw that weapon you’re not going to be looking for the red dot and turning on the flashlight. It’s point and shoot, that’s it. Then be prepared to have that gun confiscated.

[@drozzmojenkins9605]

I have a comp on a S&W mp 2.0 full size metal it works well. I also have a wastech comp on a canik Rival and that’s super smooth. I’m looking at a comp for my echelon now.

[@curt2742]

Is there any effect on velocity? With shorter carry guns, every little loss will effect terminal performance. It might be the difference between the bullet expanding or not, and therefore over-penetrating, or not stopping the threat.

[@LazyRC1]

@@curt2742 I think PewView tested that and it was less than 100 ft per second. I think. Could be wrong.

[@dennisl4000]

Comps are ok. However there are various styes of ports and comps so it is difficult to arrive at one defensive conclusion. They usually facilitate faster follow-up shots, which is a defiant advantage in competition. However, I do not feel they provide a definitive advantage for an EDC. Let there be not mistake that comps are not comp for practice.

[@billscott6819]

Is this a port or compensator? I thought a comp was a piece that stays put at the front of the slide.

[@DareToBeDeviant]

I may have made a mistake with buying a Hellcat Micro, Hellcat Pro, and Ruger LCP. My gorilla hands require and are used to big beefy guns so when shooting something small it hurts a lot. Just last week I did some test driving on them and others. The webbing of my hand was quick to sting. Suppose I'll have to keep shopping around for something more suited to me. My usual CCW for the last decade was a Taurus PT111 G2. Not bad. The sandpaper grip? Wasn't a fan. Sold it to a fellow deputy who essentially said 'shut up and take my money!' and she ran off with it, ne'er to be seen again.

[@realwelder3529]

I just recently put a Hogue grip on my Hellcat Pro. It made the grip feel a lot better IMO.

[@DareToBeDeviant]

@@realwelder3529 I'll do just that. My PT92 was fitted with Hogue many years ago in lieu of the cheap plastic checkerboard textured ones from factory. Immediate game changer. Thanks for the reminder. Me can be dumb sometimes. @_@

[@jacobstaten2366]

I don't think it's necessary and I wouldn't pay for it myself. But if someone else wants to spend the extra money, they are more than welcome. In fact, I'm pretty sure that if I got a longer barrel with threading on it to add a compensator, I probably could fit it in my holster. I'm just not willing to spend the money. If they were based on the weight of the metal instead of the machining, I probably would just because it would be cheap. But the squeeze just isn't worth the juice for me, especially with my income.

[@adiamsanchezphotography]

I went from original hellcat to my hellpro comp with apex trigger which is my main carry. Night and day from original I love my even my wife loves it

[@jamesmadison6838]

CCW- 1911 LW commander, 3 season. Hellcat Pro basic for summer or fast and light days. Iron sights, simple, familiar. I need “keep it simple, stupid!” for CCW or duty, but that’s just me. Plinking or competition- different story. Have fun. A micro nine, comped or not, is a tough place to start as first handgun. Recommend a duty sized 9mm, work your way down in size over time and experience.

[@ChristianConstitutionalist3192]

A Comp on a Carry Pistol should be Optional. Also, I would advise people to only buy a Pistol Comp for their Carry Gun ONLY IF they want it, but don't need it. By "Optional"; I mean Something you buy AFTER you buy the Gun instead of it coming with the Gun from the Factory. If you need a Comp on your carry gun, then you need more practice.

[@brandoncox2833]

Always enjoy the videos, VERY informative! Shoutout to the Scarowinds shirt!!

[@Hegshot87]

Thanks man

[@DaLowriider]

Never liked compensated pistols. Bought one once just to see if I really didn't like them. I didn't, sold it. I don't like the debris they put in the air or the potential of muzzle flash that "may" inhibit my shooting or that "may" mark my position clearly. I do like manufacturers competing for sales and in doing so making innovations that may be useful to someone and perhaps charging less money for quality firearms. If a pistol fits my hand in a way I like, isn't too picky about what I feed it within reason, balances in my hand, is accurate for me, carries a decent amount of ammo, works dang near 100 percent of the time, I carry it. Everything I carry has an orange tritium front sight or a dot, talon grips and most often an after market trigger. I prefer the same sort of "feel" in whatever I put in my hand. What I put in my hand on a particular day depends on the weather, what I'm wearing and my mood. I think saying anything has gone "too far" or is "not worth it" is like saying a "gun guy" finally has enough guns. It's an individual preference. Thankfully we live in a Republic where we have individual choices.

[@timself6561]

Hellcat RDP every day. I love it. And this is a gun I didn't think I'd like, but after owning one, it's my go-to carry. I did carry. G26 or G19.

[@thepenultimateninja5797]

I would say that it is far more important to pick one gun and get good with it. I've never understood the logic of a 'carry rotation' and constantly buying new guns. It seems unserious. If I ever have to use my gun to save my life, I don't want to waste a split second while my brain adjusts to whichever pistol I happen to be carrying that day. People need to stop buying new guns and upgrades, and concentrate on the fundamentals.

[@cayman9873]

I think an acceptable carry rotation is based on weight of gun, and size. In the winter months I carry a s&w 1911 4 inch in scandium in 45 acp. I carry a 3 inch aluminum 1911 in 45acp in summer when it's hot out. A I shoot each often B. They have the exact same shape, controls, caliber . My clothes get smaller in summer, but the last ten years I went to purse carry in a holster.

[@bradhertzler4451]

That's your opinion and while you are entitled to it, that doesn't make it right. What's right for you may not be right for others. If you dry fire your pistol before you carry out your day, in a few seconds to a few minutes, depending how many reps you do, you can be familiar with whichever firearm you are carrying for the day. This one step alone makes a carry rotation very doable, for those willing to take that one extra step. But to each their own. You do you and if others choose to have a rotation, good on them.

[@thepenultimateninja5797]

@cayman9873 I agree. I actually have a similar system; i have various sizes of Glock pistol. It's basically like a magic gun that can change size depending on what I'm wearing. That's not what is generally meant by a carry rotation though. A rotation means they are swapping it out not due to practical necessity, but because they enjoy carrying a variety of different guns.

[@thepenultimateninja5797]

@bradhertzler4451 It depends on what your reason is. For example, if you carry a smaller gun when it's hot out, that's not what I would consider a rotation. I'm talking about people who have a variety of similar handguns, and rotate what they carry because they enjoy the variety. If you're doing that, then you're placing yourself at an unnecessary disadvantage.

[@nobodyimportant9127]

Ive carried a 1911a1 since 2009

[@TomASwift]

I have a hellcat. Loved it so much I bought the OSP. I laughed at the comp version.

[@michaelbrohl1625]

Love my plain old Shield Plus. I see no reason to change it for something else.

[@mikeorick6898]

It may or may not make a difference to you. For example, the EZ9 w/o comp handles way better to me than the Hellcat RDP. I'm a Boomer who was issued an M15 (38), M1911A1 (45), M9/M11 (9mm). I appreciate the new stuff with WML and RDS but I don't feel I need them and do not EDC them.

[@wc7102]

I’m all for bells and whistles, but for self defense, keep it simple. Imagine firing that from inside your car with a blast going 4 different directions

[@josephgeorgeejr7039]

I wonder if the jolt upon recoil, if it could be the proprietary grip texture which could explain it feeling different than all other's that don't have the grip texture

[@williamyoung5001]

I’m an old shooter. I like the newer technology and I prefer a a non compensated barrel or a red dot mounted on my EDC pistol. I carry a 3.6 or 4 inch barrel that I carry appendix. I still don’t like kydex holster. But every one needs to carry what’s better for them.

[@TheLoneRanger745]

It seems like a good idea, but I'm not going to go out and buy one , I've considered adding a comp to my G-19 but haven't, could be just another problem waiting to happen that I don't need as an add on . As a built in, seems like a velocity killer, losing an inch of the barrel especially on an already short barrel. On the 365 or even the 43x with a 3.2" barrel loosing an inch would be turning it into a 2" snub nose , what's the point , just squeeze your little finger tighter . I saw a 1911 type with five holes on top of the barrel, it looked like a top fuel dragster so much flame completely lost sight of the target and the dot sight was covered in unburnt black powder 😂. I'm thinking the whole idea is more suited for minimum length barrel of 4" and up, so the powder is burned off more and less velocity loss and more distance from the dot sight, now it's starting to make more sense. The longer the barrel the more the flip this is where you need it . Shorter barrels with quicker exit tend to flip off target less with faster follow up shots, less needed . This is the conclusion of my research in theory 😂. Carry on ! ❤

[@MrTRS4444]

Love this dude super chill and is honest. Good vid bud!

[@Hegshot87]

Thanks man

[@jrbarilla]

They got you thinking that if you don’t have a comp, red dot, light rail It’s not worth owning I just ordered a Wilson combat Beretta 92g centurion with the timed action and I have people telling me I should have ordered the Langdon tactical version with the optic mount blah blah blah I’m sure the Langdon is great I’m sure the Wilson is too Idk I’m 55 and we did fine without all these extras for a very long time and did just fine As a 16 year fully disabled combat veteran, 18b I’ve trained troops and witnessed just about as much as any man cares to witness in his lifetime done with what most would consider inferior by todays standards that many feel they need to own to be effective ✌️🇺🇸

[@robertjean6280]

For sure I agree that in the Army I too used effectively tools that many would find inferior, but to not enjoy evolution is kinda silly, I mean heck by your point we should still only use the horse and buggy as it got everyone from point to point just fine as well.

[@jrbarilla]

I generally don’t explain myself nor reasoning behind what I say However, your misinterpreting what I said earlier I’ve trained thousands of troops throughout the world and am very familiar with a great deal of different weapon systems You should enjoy what you want to enjoy even by way of firearms as well as their advancements Hell, we worked with many of the market leaders responsible for these advancements in optics etc testing them in the field as we saw appropriate Many enjoy these advancements and ideas because we developed them and tested their effectiveness So yes please enjoy them That being said, your $4k build with advanced optics, red dots lights nods whatever alone will not keep you alive nor prevent that 12 year old with an AK from killing you I’ve also witnessed this many times unfortunately And yes I’ve had plenty of marines tell me they never used irons in Fallujah I’ve also witnessed just as many get killed So no I’m not saying we should remain at the horse and buggy stage because it worked What I’m saying is I’d rather see a person with 3 Glock 19s and 2-3 of the same M4 builds trained under duress to muscle Memory rather than a safe full of weapons 2/3 of which they have never fired yet But please enjoy the great advancements we have today I do believe we are living in the golden age of the advancement of weaponry just know that the next time you or anyone comes over to me and says I don’t need iron sites because…..the advancements in optics have rendered them obsolete I will turn to them and say I disagree and I know and have witnessed 100s of disembodied entities who would disagree with you as well I wish you peace brother ✌️🇺🇸

[@cattalkbmx]

It does make a difference to me. I won't carry a comp'd gun.

[@NicoJeanJacques]

@@cattalkbmx is there a reason why you wont?

[@cattalkbmx]

@@NicoJeanJacques Well you see Mr Very French Man, I was born without hands.

[@jacobcurda6031]

I have to work less to control a comped micro pistol than a non-comped ….. owned the same p365, one comped and one not comped …. The one without a comp required me to more actively think about maintaining my grip more …. It required me to work more to be able to run the gun at the same speed and accuracy …..I notice the difference more with micros than with full sized guns

[@DrumandPianoDude]

There's really nothing new that works really any better than the top handguns from the 1990's. It's funny how the industry pushed these tiny wondernines, and then defeated the purpose of deep concealed carry by making the micros into full-sized pistols with optics and comps. Pretty silly if you ask me. Optics on concealed carry guns crack me up anyway. Do really you really need an optic for a closeup threat? I'll stick with my bare-bones Ruger P95, or a 4" S&W revolver...both with fixed sights.

[@sizzlechest6070]

Comps and red dots are not necessary for carry. However, a cup holder would be useful.

[@LethalMayo]

I bought a palmetto c1 slide for my glock 48. Put a red dot on it. After carrying it like that i shot it and regular slide at range and was bummed that it didnt really help like i hoped.

[@brucesmith5501]

What’s the comparison in bullet speed between like sized ported and non ported barrels

Have one on my 365 X Macro and P226 X Five legion. I think I'll get one for my G45. My guess is comps are going to become as common as red dots.

[@AikiRonin21]

I like having a light. I'm open to a red dot, but haven't made that purchase yet. I run irons just as well if not better than my peers run their red dots, and I already carry pistols that are considered on the big side for carry pistols.

[@robertjean6280]

I’ve carried concealed for years and gone through many evolutions. From Officer framed 1911’s then EMP in 9mm then little pocket rockets and have enjoyed these new double stack polymer pistols that are a wonderful happy medium of conceal ability and being effective fast. I am a big fan of the reflex sights after being introduced to them in the Army and now won’t buy a pistol that’s not red dot capable. I currently carry a X macro with a icurus precision grip module and let the rest of my pistols sit in the safe.

[@wyomoto1349]

I like the comped hellcat pro. It’s so loud that if I ever had to defend my family inside our home I wouldn’t have to call 911 after. The fire station 2 blocks away would hear it and radio sheriffs office 😂

[@christopherreeves7915]

In my opinion comps, ported barrels and all that are great for range guns and can serve as a daily carry pistol, but is not a must, it’s a preference like carrying with an optic. At the range I love pistol comps and ported barrels for messing around. The only comp that I feel is worth it is the Radian Ramjet Afterburner with that 44% reduction in muzzle flip.

[@mckinleypotter1785]

Keep it simple , 3 things all u need , reliable , dependable, simple function that bangs every time

[@nickamalfitano3613]

Still on my Glock 42 with TLR6 pocket carry. I've owned the first hellcat and fount it to be way too snappy. Had a sig p365, meh. If I do carry 9mm IWB my go to is a Canik MC9. They have the best out of the box trigger ever.

[@Murray-wj7uc]

Non intrusive " comp" ..my Shield .45, factory ported barrel and slide ( performance center).

[@cornellpearce5686]

Sig: We’ve been in business since the mid seventies and have sold millions of firearms worldwide. But we keep forgetting to check with those yahoos on KZbin before we bring a new product to market. Never mind the market research and analysis, the focus groups and our long term business model. Get Bubba in here once he’s sober and ask him what we should be doing next. Just make sure someone brushes the crumbs out of his beard in case we need him to make a presentation before the board of directors.

[@tenormdness]

My 43x is comped and with my small hands (not great grip strength) it’s a lot easier to stay on target for multiple shots. It’s more pleasant to shoot than my other non comped 43x.

[@codyclaxton3160]

Comped guns are a disadvantage is close quarters shooting, such as pectoral index, can injured, so be careful when training.

[@JonathanMarcy]

Personally I'm picking up a comp for one of my carries. Idea being currently my grip strength isn't as good as id like it to be. I prefer training for function, so I don't use traditional grip strength training. I prefer instead to use function to promote growth in that function. So eventually using my gun my grip strength will adapt on its own. In the meantime the compensation helps keep the gun from flying out of my hands in the interim while I grow into the recoil. The added felt recoil even actually helps towards that. As well, eventually I'll get used to the extra support to have better accuracy. So once I start getting comfortable, I can take it back off. At which point I'll have an expectation for how well I can place my shots, and how I'm no longer at that mark, which will be a fun challenge. As is my shots are more accurate than I would expect given my training level, though I'm definitely no sharp shooter. It's sort of like how giving spider man the tech suit from stark face him more options, and when it was taken away he became more clever with how he used his existing ability. Not to mention Im getting into learning my guns. Just did a complete breakdown of my tavor for reassembly, and Ive at least started full disassembly of my canik's slide (though I'm waiting on some tools before I start taking apart the lower frame.) So ultimately it's just me learning my guns, how well I can handle them in different configurations, and understanding gun smithing overall, if even just from the customization standpoint. At this point the only modification not available for my main carry is actually the sights. The u-dot tritium setup is actually perfect for my eyes, most other sight combinations make it hard to feel comfortable with my sight picture for various reasons. A red tritium night sight and a red u-dot rear sight would be perfect for the elite SC (for me). Unfortunately there isn't a single after market option without instead going to multiple manufacturers and hoping for the right fit, which means a lot of trial error and cost, none of which I feel like doing. Even canik's factory blacked out warren rear and red tritium front isn't good, because it doesn't have that U line to hover the dot over. In all fairness the sights on the hellcat pro are basically perfect for me. But my canik was basically made for me, with the exception of the sights. So now I'm just looking for a way to marry one to the other

[@iwasneverkilled3516]

if i were to carry a pocket pistol, like a P365, i'd like to have it ported by default, like the L5 50AE sure, less muzzle velocity, but the idea is to use it point blank and less recoil means faster shooting anything shorter than 4" should be ported, especially when on a pocket frame