Is Overwintering Pepper Plants Worth it + Late Season Cover Cropping

[@wordwalkermomma4]

I overwintered a pepper last year... it took until November, after I moved it back into the greenhouse, to finally give me ONE pepper.😆

[@JohnJude-dp6ed]

What zone might madder

[@joeyslinger9160]

Jim kovaleski (many videos on him) used to farm in Florida over the winter and then in Maine over the summer, on each trip between farms he would bring apples or bananas etc.

[@douellette7960]

Yes that seems like a winning combo of having 2 farm locations with best growing seasons non-overlapping. 3 seems one too many but Jesse being in midlatitudes was thinking one on each side of him I guess.

[@bradliston8990]

I love those video tours of the farm they have in Florida. Jim is a stud!

[@TheModernCanary]

I would LOVE to hear Jim interviewed on this podcast! He's a genius.

[@strykr7442]

Exactly who I was thinking of!

[@dawnviola3258]

Have you read The Dawn of Everything by Graeber and Wengrow? It’s about Hunter gatherer communities and our adoption of agriculture. I think you’d find many societies that like your three farm ideas. The constant restructuring of societies for seasonal and recreational purposes and how that affects joy. Good stuff 💜

[@jamesgribben7024]

On a lazy gardener note I have identified one of my hybridised sprouting broccoli has lasted 4 years going to clone it next spring if it survives until year 5. So my point is the type of pepper you select for overwintering will matter. If one overwinters well every year clone it or breed it with others that overwinter favourably

[@ljudmilabem1098]

This year it's my first time to overwinter pepper I hope for the great results

[@douellette7960]

I will try to add 'perennialization' to my vocab. Lots of syllables (7) for the number of letters. May be good for scrabble or something idk.

[@craigmatheson2736]

Perennalizate your own variety and then use the $10 word in the naming of your plants and then use it as a multiplier Scrabble word!😂

[@zekew2418]

Here in WI we see veg at markets earlier than locally available, comes from about your growing zone. I like it, the customers getting more variety than locally available.

[@feralkevin]

Depends on the pepper, in my experience. I have a variety of a Peruvian pepper that I have been growing for years that is totally worth it!

[@brokenmeats5928]

I love ALL No-Till Growers videos!

[@blueskye23]

Ever watched Jim Kovaleski’s youtube videos? He had a market garden down in FL and one up north. So he traveled between the two. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. ❤

[@christian6820]

When I used to visit chilli pepper forums, the consent was that you'd get larger plants and harvest after overwintering. You cut them at +- 15cm height, and cut roots at a similar diameter. Store anywhere with light but little warmth.

[@lettucesalad3560]

I overwintered an ornamental black peal pepper plant last year and grew some new ones this spring. I was surprised that the newly grown pepper plants easily caught up to the over-wintered plant by early summer. Doesn't seem like over-wintering is worth it unless it's a rare, hard to germinate pepper.

[@nathanwahl5425]

It is worth it imo! But i brought in a aji lemon drop and carribean red peppers. They both out produced the same variety i started from seeds in the spring!

[@kimaccardi9817]

I overwinter my chillies (capsicum annum, capsicum baccatum & capsicum chinense). I'm in the subtropics, zone 10a (?) In Australia. I just leave them in the ground and cut them back when they start to die back from the cooler weather. We are frost free. They really do need a good feed in the spring to kick off again. It means i have chillies a lot earlier than the other growers at our market.

[@jsunshinejull]

Zone 6b here, we just had our hard freezes this week. I transferred some of last season's Jedi jalapenos, Sugar Rush Peach and Habanada plants into 1gal pots this fall. I'm keeping some on the floor of the unheated greenhouse and some in the same space but on my seed starting heat mats. Both groups are alive, but the ones on heat mats are perkier. It seems like they're growing, where the other group is basically dormant. Neither group seems to care about the irrigation freezing weather, so there's at least some benefit to peppers being under cover at all. I'll be interested to see which plants produce when next spring/summer.

[@alanpowell522]

I grew my peppers in pots and brought them inside. They are still fruiting so I didn't trim. Interested to see results in the spring, zone 5b

[@trill000]

Same. I had success for two years already this way. Seems they produce a huge round of peppers as soon as they come indoors, then they drop leaves and go dormant.

[@mikebunetta7420]

Kentucky the land of distillers 😊

[@brianking6671]

still working on last winters list... howdy neighbor!

[@jelledenblaauewen2567]

hey, i tried overwintering a small amount of peppers last year with some success. out of the 6 that i took in 3 died within the first 2 weeks. the replanted peppers did take off faster in growth but performed below average. i am again trialing this year with 4 plants, this year my new idea is to plant them in a tunnel right next to the same peppers grown from seed in the same year to asses time and yield between the plants. this because i assume that the outdoor growing conditions supplied this year did not make for good pepper conditions. So far it has given me quite some work controlling lice and watering them. other then that they are all still alive regardless of the amount of pruning i did, one just the leaves basically, two to the minor branches and one all the way back to the major branches.

[@cfrasermusic]

Turkey sandwich season was a win :D

[@r.bethsmith2255]

I am zone 6. I tried overwintering sweet peppers indoors a few years ago. I never have much luck with indoor plants but managed to get them to survive till March. Sadly they died on me right bf it was warm enough to move them outside. I am trying again this year.

[@amyIsFlexable]

Hey, Jesse, thanks for answering my question about peppers. I wonder if the 3 farms idea could work a slightly different way. Livestock people have haulers that just take livestock around different places, trying to make each leg of the trip as profitable as possible. I wonder if farmers could do this by moving plants, combining with things like giving workshops, etc. So for example, there might be a tree producer in a different region, and perhaps you could find some farmers in your region that need to move some plants to where the tree producer is. Then you take the plants from your region to the other region and come back with trees that are wanted in your region. I can imagine doing this to take advantage of different day lengths and conditions. For example, possibly people who get long day lengths in the summer could start tomatoes late that will not be able to fruit in those northern climes, but they could ship them south where there's another month or 6 weeks before frost.

[@ursamajor1936]

In early November, I started overwintering 5 green pepper plants in a small plastic barrel using a sub-irrigarion tube and no top watering in a 'sunny' window....theres really no sun in Wisconsin for at least 4 months. To prep the plants i used the method other KZbinrs are giving out of, dig plant, wash under cold running water roots and all, trim roots by one half, trim stems leaving 2 buds, remove leaves. They are doing well, no bugs or disease issues and have developed a few small leaves.

[@jamesgribben7024]

@@ursamajor1936 the USSR used to grow oranges in earth pits and covered the earth pits over in Winter. In Ukraine I think

[@feralkevin]

Part of that would be folks would need to buy and eat things a little bit different than what they are used to. Reason that so many gardeners fail when they move to Florida because they want cherries, apples, and "normal" cool season veggies, when they could be enjoying pitanga fruit and chaya greens!

[@Jbomb312]

Rocking episode!!! You are awesome 😎

[@59kuphoff]

I've heard of bee keepers taking their bee hives south for the winter to get a double harvest. Snow Birds with their Snow Bees?

[@ArtFlowersBeeze8815]

That would be interesting going across the border.

[@ardenthebibliophile]

I overwintered a pepper plant last year. It did OK, though never bushed out to the same degree. Didnt produce much faster, probably due to the aforementioned lack of foliage. Im fine being patient. Peppers are worth the wait!

[@brianweingartner619]

Last season I kept about a dozen plants alive in my basement, but the delay in the spring we had got me in the end and they all ended up dieing off. I have about 6 Ají Amarillo in pots indoors now, hoping I can keep alive and get some early peppers next season. Also if I just get a greenhouse, it might help.

[@lenamccubbin1068]

Is the light on the microscope on? It seems to glow.

[@kathymyers1023]

I've overwintered peppers the last two years. Tons of peppers this year, but other friends said they had good peppers this year too, so maybe it was a pepper-year. Dug them up and am hoping for a 3rd year with them.

[@mishkahappy3839]

I put a hot pepper row in two 25 gallon pots (around 45 plants) and stuck em in the root cellar with all my bulbs. Im Crossing my fingers some will make it.

[@7dwarfes103]

You left Alberta out as a grow zone. We have from last frost to first frost just a little over 4 months (123 days) Not all those days are sunny or free of snow and freezing rain, extreme winds etc. We get by.

[@TheWafflesalsa]

Are there any techniques for overwintering peppers or other plants by keeping them in ground with some warming like insulation/clear plastic and water circulation? I'm just thinking that the ground temp isnt that far from survivable its the surface temp that is low.

[@dralexmedmd]

Maybe broad beans could be a good idea for the empty dahlia beds in winter.

[@TheFarmacySeedsNetwork]

Maybe a "North - South Farmer's Exchange" program is more appropriate.. I like the idea! On peppers overwintering... I agree... and I do sometimes overwinter peppers.. But never on a commercial scale... It DOES tie in directly to your seed saving talks... Kept over winter and then flowered / fruited earlier than your main stock gives you an IDEAL opportunity for seed saving PURE peppers strains (true to type). cheers! 🌱

[@brianweingartner619]

Your 3 farm idea is done by a bigger company here, Windset Farms, which has greenhouses in Mexico, US, and Canada... so they just keep production going all the time!

[@cherylschaefer9965]

I’m in zone 5A and I tried to overwinter peppers. By the time they recovered from transition from my dormant basement to a grow light in April to the garden in June, they shocked several times and did not survive. I cut them back and they grew, then withered. Cut them back again and they withered again, then died. Never produced anything in year two. Wah wah. For me it was not worth it.

[@sc-dw6gt]

As usual, you might be smarter than you think. In Hawai'i (where I'm from), the Hawaiian people of yore (and of today) devised a genius system of agricultural division called ahupua'a (ah-who-poo-AH-ah), which divided the land in long strips that ran from the ocean to the mountaintop. Everyone who lived within any of it were members of the kuleana (group) that had use of all the resources within it, which encompassed, on some islands, from sea level to 14,000 feet---so, a wide range of climates and resources (this is of course an oversimplified explanation of a sophisticated and well-functioning system). So, your idea has been tried---and it works!

[@JohnJude-dp6ed]

I'm 6a Mid Ohio and starting my own seedlings for 4 seasons now and I'm having bell peppers as early as June 20 and always have bell peppers before July and that's early for my area in Columbus OH.I tried 1 holding over peppers without results but I'm doing very well with peppers and tomatoes so don't think it would be much but might try again sometime.... my cabbage and onions from seed have been my problem... I have cover crop radishes over a fr out of the ground and don't know how deep and not checking...! Question Anything different from the four, thanks veggies that isn't the same for seedlings?

[@majflonite]

💚

[@bradliston8990]

Lol at Sam Bakers "WWJD" bit of the comment, nice.

[@davidvankainen6711]

My Chilpetins in MI didn't come in until LATE, so was thinking about overwintering. From the basic research, hard NO for me. I have a hard enough time enjoying house plants, let alone a stripped down, peroxide-bathed rel. dormant ugly duckling to keep on life support. Besides, those chilpetins ripened up a few more berries well beyond first frost.

[@amyIsFlexable]

I'll be honest, I just pruned back the peppers I already had in pots and stuck them in the shed last week before our first hard freeze. I'm planning to try to keep them from totally drying out, and if they survive at all it will be a plus in my book.

[@lawrencebeeles6338]

what ever happened to Joel satin

[@tawnroddey]

Joel Salatin is alive and well. I believe Trump has appointed him to the USDA when he gets inagurated.....

[@aprilbreen9207]

Satin! Ha ha!

[@hoosierpioneer]

​@@aprilbreen9207I thought it was SALADin at first, since he grew winter salad greens!

[@pollinatefarmgardensupply2708]

...Or did you mean Josh Sattin?

[@abydosianchulac2]

Spoilers on Elphaba's death! ...that happens in the first 45 seconds of the movie and also won't happen till next year, but still!

[@notillgrowers]

Surely the statute of limitations on Wizard of Oz spoilers has expired!

[@abydosianchulac2]

@notillgrowers _She dies in The Wizard of Oz, too??_

[@notillgrowers]

Oh dear what have I done

[@jhosk]

A pepper is a perineal, it makes zero sense to pull them up unless you have to. The problem is they are most often planted in areas where they won't live through the winter. My grandmother had a 7 year old pepper plant, why plant something over and over and waste resources?

[@ArtFlowersBeeze8815]

Might want to check the spelling on perennial because no one wants a pepper in the area you have spelled. Oopsie!

[@joepa6106]

Over wintering peppers ... tried it a few times now, expect to loose 50% of what you try to save , peppers just are hard to keep alive all winter and then also not burn them in the spring , they can't take that heavy light all at once , let them back out slowly over multiple days