Pendulum - Propane (2007 October Version)

full and legit from a chrysalis records sampler cd. as far as i know this is the version that was shown to warner in 2007 october! (NOT a remake)
this is where we first heard of it : archive.org/de...
but archive.org were being useless and did not provide us with the files. luckily we found another source for it :www.discogs.co...
and this is the cd SYSTEMSREADY bought and ripped it from.
massive round of applause to her for nicking this cd in time !!!!!!! (we could only order this one to the u.s. from one person on discogs)
for years we were confused about the constant references to a 'chorus' throughout propane's development seen in the in silico planning scans (in silico booklet), now it's finally revealed that yes there indeed used to a huge chorus in propane.
anyway, have at it =)
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lyrics:
Something's staring me down
And I can't help but feel its coming from you
She's a gunshot bride, these are triggered cries
i just wonder what we've gotten ourselves into
In the trail of fire, I know we will be free again
In the end we will be one
In the trail of fire, I'll burn before you bury me
Holding candles to the sun
Mind is willing, soul remains
This woman could not be saved
From the jar, into the fire
Mind is willing, soul remains
This woman could not be saved
From the jar, into the fire
Anything to realise
I can't help you
She's the archer's child from the dark side
You know that I can't help you
We are out of time, we are going tonight
Flesh too weak to choke the self,
Heal the wounds or crack the shell
Lift yourselves from worlds below,
Raise the anchor, bring it on home
Flesh too weak to choke the self,
Heal the wounds or crack the shell
Take yourselves from worlds below,
Raise the anchor, bring it on
I can't help you
She's the archer's child from the dark side
You know that I can't help you
We are out of time, we are going tonight
In the trail of fire, I know we will be free again
In the end we will be one
In the trail of fire, I'll burn before you bury me
Holding candles to the sun
I can't help you
She's the archer's child from the dark side
You know that I can't help you
We are out of time, we are going tonight
Bring it on home

[@CerberusProject]

You are the hero Pendulum fans don't deserve, but definitely need.

[@fausto123]

I got my theory. Greg is El Hornet's son from the future.

[@bigcazza5260]

@@fausto123 lol

[@tovape]

@@fausto123 yep

[@rara3538]

why not?

[@alessioforte5946]

the missing chorus is awesome! I think Pendulum fans are now used to the definitive version of it but this missing part is like the final piece in the Jigsaw

[@mikeyb3072]

Any extra amount of Rob's singing is welcome :)

[@alessioforte5946]

@@mikeyb3072 So true!

[@Kalagosa]

I know this was posted like 2 yrs ago, but ever since finding this I can't listen to the normal Propane anymore. I really like the chorus because it gives a new depth to the song for me.

[@alessiosolar9781]

@@Kalagosa two years and still very much relevant!

[@ConcasicoWoodworks]

Omg I have never heard this version. It is amazing 😮😮

[@rebs9532]

i just wanna have a talk with whoever decided to take that second chorus out of the final song

[@stevengrantofthegiftshop1549]

Probably Rob himself

[@meelans6126]

@@stevengrantofthegiftshop1549 most probably

[@dopey473]

I JUST WANNA TALK TO HIM

[@PerunaMuayThai]

They probably got notes from the publisher and made some tweaks.

[@mistressgabby1]

*holds bat behind back* I just wanna have a chat with him, nothing more

[@y0ssir019]

The nightmares came from the fact they removed the epic chorus

[@Coldsteelgrip]

Is it possible for ppl to outlive the apocalypse

[@dejavureal]

You know, if you said that this was the product of a text-to-speech AI learning Rob's voice and you had it write and sing a chorus for Propane Nightmares, I would've believed that too.

[@Halfpipesaur]

_a text-to-speech AI learning Rob's voice_ I need this

[@bigcazza5260]

@@Halfpipesaur 10 titan V's crunching out a neural network for a week later

[@Apheli0nne]

@@Halfpipesaur This is actually a thing now hahah

[@unayden1360]

Welcome to the future lol

[@kouvarou11]

Scary how this comment applies so much to today

[@PEPSIMaxMusic]

Fun fact: this version was available on MySpace via Chrysalis music, and is preserved on the WebArchive's MySpace archive, though the quality is obviosly worse than the CD version.

[@notrobswire]

TIL!

[@Kraedt]

"I can't help you... She's Yoshi's child.. with a dark side" (I suck at figuring out lyrics)

[@performa9523]

Sounds good to me.

[@DesertThing]

Yeah I am also suck XD, but Greg added the lyrics in the description. It says "She's the archer's child from the dark side"

[@BartiDSJ]

Wow the chorus is incredible, I would love to see a remake with it being added to the final version. I'm having this on repeat just for that one part

[@eyrene10]

same!!

[@lyndonallen3237]

Holy f***in SH*T. THAT CHORUS. Official version is now dead to me. RIP.

[@mikulitsi1819]

Wait what??? The Propane Nightmares most know wasn't the original? Was trying to find a karaoke version but instead saw this goddamn. This is a find and thank you for posting it! Tbf I like the actual one maybe a tiny bit more but this is almost as good. Both versions are fantastic and it's a shame that this has only 180k views...

[@tritone2276]

Hot take: the chorus here is good but I feel like it works better as a bridge maybe and makes the song feel like it has two different choruses. It might be why they got rid of it. If not the bridge maybe have it lead into the chorus we all know and love more. It feels like it kinda breaks up the song except AFTER the regular chorus. Make the chorus we know of a pre-chorus and this one the main chorus, basically.

[@dh1380]

That chorus is strong. I always preferred the kick pattern from the live version, personally. Overall though the final edit was the right way to go

[@shreemandpe]

I love how there's an additional bit of "lore" in the missing chorus. If we go by the music video, - "I can't help you" The priest is declaring someone unsavable (probably the same girl who's "mind is willing but soul remains") - "She's the Archer's child from the dark side" I'm guessing Archer is some sort of euphemism for devil? - "You know that I can't help you" Song structure more than anything lol - "We're out of time, we're going tonight" The folks are conducting their final ceremony, so the child can't be "purified" or anything because there's literally no time. Something to do with a comet, if I recall correctly.

[@saleens7993]

They all killed themselves at a specific time because a comet (or meteor shower possibly) was passing overhead and they believed they would leave their ‘earthly vessels’ (aka bodies) and catch a ride on the comet and travel to either a new galaxy or heaven. Craziness

[@certandoerimus4005]

I'm hearing "the arch's child", but if the lyrics in the description are official then well guess I'm wrong lol

[@certandoerimus4005]

@Nikolai Hilz good point, but when I hear usher I think of a movie theater employee

[@0_Mang]

@@saleens7993 Oh, the song lyrics are inspired by that? Never knew that.

[@PerunaMuayThai]

@@0_Mang yeah look up Heaven's Gate cult

[@dyseminate3580]

Honestly I wouldn't mind a mix of the actual Propane Nightmares that had that chorus near the end of the track.

[@lululombard]

@@tmb8807 Damn this version is very interesting!

[@balamlopez1294]

Aphex :3

[@dyseminate3580]

@@balamlopez1294 You know it. Also @tb3420 that's pretty interesting. Sorry for responding late because I had no idea my comment actually got any attention. lmao

[@balamlopez1294]

@@dyseminate3580 Floating Points, Squarepusher, Moderat, Jon Hopkins, Eno, Burial....

[@eyrene10]

I have half a mind to make that edit myself because of how hard I agree with you, the issue is I don't know anything about audio editing whatsoever, I have like surface level knowledge of how some tools in Audacity work and that's it 😅 but the actual propane nightmares with this added in right at the end would be PERFECTION

[@NightField177]

Those new vocals are so beautiful, Rob's voice is amazing.

[@OddChap]

Each time i listen to it, the new chorus grows on me more and more

[@thetrainshop]

The omitted chorus would have made for an excellent song if paired with a song with a more forlorn air.

[@elsden722]

...okay

[@judewelos]

Considering this song is about leaving a cult, I think it does fit here?

[@kaiochanx3348]

1:53, didn't expect Rob to sing this but it's beautiful

[@eleve28]

Very interesting but I gotta admit that I’m glad that they removed and revamped some vocal parts from this demo version. Sounds too cluttered to me. Also, aren’t the vocals a lot louder in this version? Big up for uploading this btw!

[@notrobswire]

yeah super loud vocals, robs documentation on in silico shows that he often merges different songs and versions into one to create preview / playout versions and this is one of those!

[@zkylibra13]

@@notrobswire where is the difference in the official release and "2007" version?

[@zkylibra13]

@L99minaty. can yo give me a video music link final/official release with this version?

[@zkylibra13]

@L99minaty. the difference with final is on 04:06 ?

[@captainzoll3303]

I think i understand why they removed the extra chorus, the way it starts with "IIIII cant help you" kind of overlaps with the previous bar and steps on the "bring it on home" (or whatever's there in this version). If it was me, I'd start the "I" on the offbeat just after and shorten it a bit.

[@InfinityZ808]

That really makes sense tbh.

[@tmb8807]

True. I think that section is repeated too much in this version. Just doing it once at the end without vocals makes it more impactful. Putting the Dune sample in its place was a masterstroke.

[@QueenCaffeineAI]

I love this so much, I wish there was a final version of this or even just to hear them play this version would be so cool!

[@Sparkusiano]

that's the propane i remember since i was 9 y o kid, that in a trail of fire part is something like earworm for me over a decade :D i heard it somewhere in 2010 and after it, it just disappeared until now and i still had it in my head... fucking ty greg

[@noahandrews628]

Wow, that's really cool

[@CaydesGuardian]

I will always and forever just ADORE Pendulum with every bit of my heart and soul🥺💖

[@Likonan]

Me: Rob Propane remix contest when? Rob: 2:03

[@NateNotDrake]

hahaha probably my favourite part too

[@devonlavis69]

I love propane but I never heard this version thank you so much

[@ragefordragons798]

This is an awesome find. I've always wanted to hear early versions of this song. Another question I've always had is what instruments they use in the 'drop' sections? It sounds like a combination of like trumpet and guitar or something... either way this is huge.

[@notrobswire]

they're distorted or waveshaped supersaw-like synths made with z3ta or fm8. layered with guitars in insilico

[@elsden722]

@@notrobswire that is like the coolest description of anything ever

[@TransistorBased]

@@notrobswire I doubt it's FM8. You can't get good saws from FM

[@notrobswire]

@@TransistorBased salt in the wounds main lead is made with fm8 for example

[@TransistorBased]

@@notrobswire seriously? I would never have imagined a DX7 could do that

[@goofla]

I always loved Propane Nightmares as a standalone track and as (in my humble opinion) one of Pendulum's best. And now I have another version of it to listen to. Feels like I've been catapulted back 13 years to when I listened to In Silico for the first time. Thank you for that

[@ExtraRaven_]

i was just listening to spiral, and opened this in a new tab like 10 seconds before the end of it. accidental most epic transition ever

[@LoWsDominios]

Oh, Pendulum. You will always have a special place in my heart.

[@tinnetju]

Amazing to hear the differences between this and the final version

[@ne10ne10]

Propane nightmares without the nightmares

[@drunkard103]

i like how they used the instrumental for the chorus as the solo section in the final version. a nice vignette

[@plazmikpond]

Nice to see all these pendulum uploads in 2020; like a blast from the past. Glad people like you are keeping the most legendary drum and bass band alive. Much love :) And damn this sounds so different from the final product- not bad tho.

[@decanuck]

I didn't think I could like a remix of this song as much as the original, but wow this is amazing. Great find!

[@DesertThing]

Greg, you just made my entire day :D

[@DesertThing]

The wallpaper really fits the song!

[@notrobswire]

can be found here ! www.behance.net/gallery/88667695/everydays-october-2019

[@DesertThing]

@@notrobswire Thanks.

[@notrobswire]

@@Paperkutchy okay will do. suppose i shouldve come up with a template by now :p unfortunately i also dont have the submarines source anymore, but what i do know is that it is from r/wallpapers , around the time of the video's upload

[@detached442]

The art of Submarines Remix is Ken Taylor's 20,000 Leagues :)

[@morgremtried]

damn id love to have that chorus as isolated vocals

[@JamesL42]

Give AI a couple more years and it'll probably be as easy as chucking it into a website and downloading an mp3

[@Hadgerz]

I always felt like the studio version left a little to be desired. Just slap that cut "Archer's child" chorus into the album version and it's a complete product. I'm a little torn though because the half-time section in the album version (about 3:00) absolutely s l a p s! The autotune in the verses and the 'bring it on home' at the end is more polished too...but man, that cut chorus is a little more juicy than just repeating 'bring it on home'

[@Conorp77]

This chorus! Goddamn! Propane Nightmares is one of my favourite songs of all time. I love the release version, but hearing this makes it hard to go back. I'm seeing the band next week and it pains me know that Rob wont sing this part.

[@TheKoreanDrifter]

This is amazing!!! So many props to you and her!!!

[@raid.leader]

AuToTuNe SwIrE

[@chefhelper]

🤣 he can

[@annonameus]

You live pretty close to me, Greg. I'll eventually find you and give you a hug or something. Be careful.

[@theyura3446]

bro you did a big way finding the song, good job and thanks for the good version of this banger!

[@ksadjfoerhf]

it's... it's beautiful

[@mrdreamy1747]

Propane Nightmares Beta release

[@gunnerzz1008]

Oooh what a great notification to have at 1am!

[@Blu_B0i]

Isn't the second line of lyrics messed up? I don't think that it's "death from above", more like "coming from you" like in Propane Nightmares we know from In Silico. Or I'm missing something? Anyway, thank you Greg for this upload. Great work as always ^^

[@Dave01Rhodes]

I think it's tradition that Propane (Nightmares) lyrics are always wrong. Only Rob Swire knows them for sure. Grabbitz sure doesn't ;P

[@raid.leader]

@@Dave01Rhodes she's a SHOTGUN bride

[@jacksantalino7371]

Cooling and interesting! Can't wait to the versions of 9000 Miles :)

[@notrobswire]

we have recovered a couple promos and a misprint of in silico but unfortunately all of them had a final version so any versions of make the magic aka 9k miles demo are out of reach currently!

[@notrobswire]

@@Paperkutchy we are (slowly but surely) working on a wiki thatll explain everything

[@justinusjulius5007]

@@notrobswire Cool, I'd read that.

[@CORF.]

@@notrobswire Funny to read this now coming from the Make The Magic video lol

[@toamatanui401]

While the Chorus does add some nice flare, this version feels like a demo. The Chorus part feels like an experimental insert that doesn't exactly feel right in some parts. But, I think it works great as part of the ending before the last verse of the song. It's unfortunate that it wasn't included in the final release.

[@OFFICIALGREN]

Fuck my life, because I haven't heard it before. Absolute masterpiece

[@i_am_someone_else7054]

Interesting to hear the talking synth in between the verses/the lead riff in its infancy. Sounds so futuristic

[@itsfrank3070]

Ayoo lets go 💪 also them vocals 😳

[@CarlJohnson234]

Omg its real and listening to this rn. Big ups to Greg!

[@adamski3079]

Doing gods work Greg keep it up

[@egzo1927]

Thanks for the (late, but it's only my fault) birthday present!

[@Jbarcha111]

bro you are crazy - thank you so much

[@mer1lmer1lsky52]

Isn't that "Hold your colours to the sun" instead of candles? Hats off to both of you!

[@notrobswire]

it is actually candles

[@mer1lmer1lsky52]

@@notrobswire Bamboozled, alright then.

[@TransistorBased]

The pitch shifting on these vocals makes it sound like MrWeebl

[@sashie]

Possible upload to Spotify or SoundCloud would be amazing. If this happens I’m on repeat for a long... time. Otherwise really great work! Following you for a while.

[@notrobswire]

unfortunately i cant upload to spotify because I don't own the rights to it and soundcloud takes it down automatically. however itll always be available here

[@sashie]

Greg's Stuff I’m happy with this either way thanks! :)

[@noahandrews628]

That very prominent pipe-organ type sound in that one part gives this version such a cool vibe

[@tmb8807]

It is in the final version, but only in the second repetition.

[@melancholicdrive7209]

Thanks for uploading this gems 😍

[@gabrielgrein3305]

You are a hero bro, thank you

[@Campoo691]

Thanks again Greg!

[@kass4208]

I bought a new wireless earphones now i can listen to new instruments on this one

[@BumBumPun]

This track at full power in the headphones from deadmau5 and ripped🤯 The sound very cleanly, good old, beloved DRUM’N’BASS! 🥰Nostalgia and at the same time something fresh is not familiar🤗 Miss Pendulum🥺Thank you for your work🤝🤘🤜🤛 Hello from Russia😘

[@TransistorBased]

What

[@poetchi]

I definitely need this one at the next pendulum concert

[@RealBullbear]

Fire 🔥🔥🔥

[@pz189]

Legend!

[@flowlee3656]

They really should have kept the chorus!

[@bllau]

I tell you hwhat.

[@Ongomar]

Dude, thank you for this

[@DANNYonPC]

Neat You hero!

[@meelans6126]

How's that chorus tho🔥

[@DANNYonPC]

@@meelans6126 Sick

[@solidsparkle117gaming4]

Why do I like this version better than the finished product? Oh right, cause it's a Demo of a Pendulum track! Hell yeah!

[@dsn2331]

Pendulum forever!

[@dawn1279]

these chorus lyrics are awesome! Cant they just rerelease this track somehow? -.-

[@slidingSeraph]

Why did they take the chorus out??? It’s the most polished out of all the vocal tracks here, too

[@josemanteca_oficial]

and now the wwe universe takes control CYBER SUNDAY

[@SvenNero]

I'm may not be fan of Pendulum but i always love to find the early/demo versions of songs I like.

[@JamesL42]

Become a fan. Best decision you'll ever make.

[@Tubeytime]

He's done it again

[@DarkAceZ35000]

it's legendary

[@user-us6vg]

The wav is just MP3, most likely upconverted CBR 256kbits. Not blaming you, was probably pressed like that onto the sampler.

[@notrobswire]

it is, yeah. the sampler is pressed as an audio cd though so we couldnt get the original file

[@ryanboxer8990]

NEED NEED NEED

[@kass4208]

i love the bass on this one

[@fausto123]

I like this part 2:00

[@Phil-fv8yg]

Combine the fixed voices from the official release with the chorus of this version :o

[@NTeKLullaby]

Really like this version. hope a mirror will be up soon :)

[@notrobswire]

mirror up now!

[@NTeKLullaby]

@@notrobswire Thanks :)

[@warhammer90000]

hoooooly cows to the suuuuuuun

[@flowlee3656]

Lol, that's what I also heard at first.

[@supanor]

THANK YOU SO FKN MUCH, YEAH.

[@jreynolds4163]

Sounds amazing love it

[@Kincior]

Interesting find

[@TwistsAndTunes]

End of the World vibes 🔥

[@DTNBeat]

Daaaamn 🔥🔥🔥

[@ds90seph]

Dude! Holy fuck did I need this!

[@notrobswire]

well its right here

[@qu1v3r]

This is beautiful.

[@bigcazza5260]

wow the different lyrics kinda change this song a heap aye

[@sirmathias8852]

13 years ?

[@Rivan98]

Hi greg can you get the versión of different live acapella remix at umf 2016 please the vocal of that version is priceless

[@notrobswire]

not sure what happened to your comment there but anyway the umf live performance version is a live version of which there is no studio version

[@dahotfunk]

Chrysalis Music Group USA - The Music of Pendulum Disc 2 Tracklist: 1. Slam 2. Out Here 3. Hold Your Colour 4. Streamline 5. Hold Your Colour (Bi-Polar Mix) 6. Painkiller 7. Jump 'n' Twist 8. Painkiller (Ed Solo & Skool of Thought Remix) 9. Painkiller (Noisia Remix) 10. Blood Sugar 11. Axle Grinder 12. Distress Signal 13. Granite 14. Granite (Dillinja Remix) 15. Propane Some unreleased tracks there. Any chance to get them?

[@notrobswire]

We unfortunately never found a copy of this disk for sale but archive.org has audio clips of them iirc

[@gamebuilderlol7808]

god i love the chorus

[@tommihere2]

Great Find! If I remember right, wasn't there an earlier demo version of this song, one which had completely different lyrics on the first verse? I remember seeing it in a very old DJ set (which I'm sure was on your channel) but I can't find it?

[@notrobswire]

it's this one i think kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqSbc6eCm9qrn6s

[@tommihere2]

@@notrobswire That's the one! Great find thanks!