Bret Hart on Wresting With Shadows Documentary

Wrestling With Shadows documented Bret Hart's famous last match in the World Wrestling Federation vs. Shawn Michaels in the the Montreal Screwjob at Survivor Series 1997. During this ‪@NotsamWrestling‬ podcast, Sam Roberts interviews Bret The Hitman Hart about the role that the documentary film played in showing the real story of what happened with Vince McMahon in this famous wrestling incident.
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[@garyoddedmund7607]

Wrestling with Shadows is the greatest documentary. It was filmed at the perfect time in wrestling.

[@letsgobrandon7297]

Stew’s basement and stories kind of weirded me out.

[@Dinosreviews]

Bret vs Austin was the start of the Attitude Era. I don’t watch current stuff, but I still enjoy watching classic Bret Hart matches.

[@meekcheeks]

Finally someone who talks sense

[@KirksCORNER]

Attitude Era was before Bret

[@IHateNicolasCage]

Bret Hart in 1995/1996 was like watching the All Star player on a team that loses 100 games. He was the only reason to tune in.

[@henrikschmidt3964]

I will forever be on Bret's side regarding Montreal. Had Eric Bischoff had a brain, Bret would have then gone on to do insane business in WCW. He was the hottest property in wrestling in november of ´97.

[@rockwild737]

Bret would have been awesome during the Attitude Era. Matches vs Kurt Angle and again with Rock, Triple H, Stone Cold etc. WCW were a joke. The arrival of Bret Hart should have pushed them way above the then WWE but they messed up so bad.

[@rosendoortega9045]

WCW was hogan's playground. ERIC didn't know what todo with stars like Brett. For WCW was all NWO only

[@catiline1]

In WCW defense Bret jumped to Nitro in the worst situation possible. WCW was at the very peak running the the white hot NWO/Hogan vs WCW/sting angle leading towards starrcade and storyline wise Bret had no business inserting himself in the main event.

[@rockwild737]

@Cadillac Matrix seeing as NWO was signing up everybody, you don't think Sting could have down with another ally or something?

[@ath85]

Bret got potatoed by Goldberg which led to the end of his wrestling career after suffering a concussion due to it.

[@LordPeaceFrog]

Bret saved WWF's reputation would be a proper historical context 🤔

[@ianferraro9640]

I was 8 years old in 1992 when Bret really emerged and I watched wrestling religiously in the 90s. Watched almost all the WWF PPVs from 1992 until 1999. Being Canadian Bret was truly my hero (I loved Owen as well). He is still my hero and my respect for him has only grown over the years. I have read his book several times and I just can't get enough Hitman. One of the all-time greats.

[@muds1123]

Best documentary ever in wrestling. It was genuinely ground breaking.

[@OldMovieRob]

Brett's matches are some of my favorite to watch, such as his matches with Sean Waltman, Chris Benoit, etc.

[@innocuousalias6632]

This raises so many questions about the time and place of Brett's career. He stopped the wwf from imploding but would he have even been given the chance to it if the company wasn't looking for a savior. And what if Brett had come up later and hadn't played that part. How would he have molded his character during and alternate timeline attitude era. Brett's promos were always so different from those that came before him and those that came after.

[@coreychristian2312]

I love Bret Hart.

[@ganglabesh]

1997 IS STELLAR WRESTLING YEAR FOR ALL 3 BIG PROMOTIONS

[@curthennig9448]

Only 2 big promotions at that time. ECW doesn't qualify. Just didn't have the platform and maybe too much violence.

[@rubengonzalez8679]

@@curthennig9448 so what if it was too much violence? That's ECWs identity.

[@curthennig9448]

@@rubengonzalez8679 I do understand that but it would limit their ability in becoming a major promotion because TV stations would shy away from extreme violence.

[@PlayfulTraining]

Bret totally saved WWF/E. Carried the company during the New-gen era and legitimised the biggest draw in company history.

[@Rambo-lv9hu]

💯

[@Shadow-zz2ry]

There is such a story to be told with Bret Harts career that you could make into a biog movie.

[@acehunter3229]

I heard Teddy Hart will be making a movie about Bret Hart, and his Cat will be the director 🙀

[@wolfcrewe7474]

Fun fact Jerry Jarrett was asked by Vince what he should do in terms of putting the belt on somebody, and he told him Bret Hart, he’s by far your best wrestler.

[@samdustinchris]

It should have been Bret Hart fighting the dungeon of doom. Bret could have taken Z-Gangsta without a frying pan.

[@KirksCORNER]

My FAVORITE Wrestler of ALL time. Wish I still had his autograph.

[@paulgleeson9067]

bret did well taking the wwe to england , Spain, Africa and Germany, France.

[@neilsmith9066]

Got into Wrestling Mid Hogan run loved it but I look back and Love The Hitman New Generation Era it defines my childhood. Loved The Disney character production so much better then now of days 100%

[@Radeo]

Was this interview recent? Bret looks great.

[@hootie34667]

I believe it was from 5 years ago.

[@AndromedanPrince]

It's true ppl wanna talk smack about him during the hard days off WWF but it was coming back up especially during his fued with Austin and Shawn didn't do nearly as good as champion during those times but gotta give Shawn credit his second run when he came back in 2002 was better than his first run in some ways

[@thegent8916]

Hogan was never truly immortal. Taker was never really a dead man. Bret genuinely was the best there is, was, or ever will be.

[@russphilbrook9719]

Bret is my hero. Thank you Bret

[@mikeaveling5802]

Brett heart is always made me proud Canadian 🇨🇦♥️

[@zachary_attackery]

I like to think he sends out a pretty wholesome message

[@acehunter3229]

Well I don't think so, ever saw Lonesome Dove The Outlaw Years? that was the most violent think on tv. And I will just like to say El Dandy u are one hell of a rasslar

[@rockwild737]

Bret is the greatest wrestler of all time. He made it to the top in a world of cartoon giants purely by being the best.

[@joetamburello6292]

He just seems very arrogant

[@curthennig9448]

@@joetamburello6292 At times he does come across like he was the King of kings.

[@matthaines8136]

He was cartoony too he had a rockstar persona

[@tafua_a]

@@joetamburello6292 I see it as him knowing his worth. Like Bruce Lee allegedly said, "If I told you I'm the best, you'd think I'm bragging, but if I told you I'm not, you'd know I'm lying"

[@joetamburello6292]

@@tafua_a never compare Bret Hart to Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee as a master while Bret….wasn’t 😂

[@robertmoore294]

Bret was the hero in the 90s in WWF

[@zurin6556]

🇲🇾 We Want Bret 🇨🇦

[@MrHarco77]

the thing that came out of the screwjob is that Triple H was in on it or possibly suggested it and now he's running the show along with Shawn Michaels. Interesting to think about.

[@tomsevgarage8397]

Finally saw the film. You can tell what is genuine. Him getting hosed is obviously contrived. He can never admit. Sad.

[@chrisauble556]

The 1997 royal rumble was the best thing I ever saw as fas as wrestling goes

[@letsgobrandon7297]

Idk about personally saving the business but it was either him or JR that got Austin to WWF and Bret wanted to work with him so saved/made wrestling by helping Austin get bigger before he skyrocketed. Bret should been a heel longer...was great as a heel. Starting to think wrestling with shadows was a work, Bret said he wanted to make something big and his an hbk’s beef was suppose to be fake at the beginning. That documentary wouldn’t of sold over 500 copies if it didn’t have that huge history take place. Vince limping when getting punched in the face. That doc benefited everyone. But would hbk have taken the chance when he loved being a baby face.

[@barfo281]

I agree with Kevin Nash: Monteal was a work.

[@barfo281]

@@leighlowe1069 They both did say it, but Nash went into details, like explaining that not all of the footage in Wrestling with Shadows was from the documentary film crew; they got permission to use some footage from WWE - all the official Survivor Series footage that was used was from WWE, including when Bret destroyed the monitors and spelled W C W in the ring. Nash makes very convincing arguments. Everybody won (financially) as a result of Montreal, except that WCW fumbled when it came to booking Bret.

[@hackingSORRY]

Just remember this guys. Bret had something The Rock and Hulk Hogan never got the chance to do and that was beat STONE COLD IN HIS PRIME at Wrestlemania. That alone makes Bret a Huge draw and WCW dropped the ball on that if he came in and took over HOGANs role as Babyface beating the NWO it woulda flipped Wrestling to a good guy vs bad guy sport agian. Instead we SAW fucking tweener DQ and Tweener Main events for the next 8 years :D across both brands.

[@MarlonAnthony]

I don't think it's fair to say Stone Cold was in his prime at WM13, He was gaining momentum as a heel sure, but the double turn made him even hotter and by the time we get to WM14, Austin was not only super popular, he was the freshest thing in the buisiness since the nWo. The WM14 match was him being anointed, 98-99 was his prime years.

[@josephmiller9424]

Brett deep inside would be like that guy in the movie that caught the guy the killed his wife and got out of prison but he had him on the table straped down with a mirror over top of him so he has to watch and had him drugged up so he couldn't pass out the movie had Jamie fox trying to catch him because the guy was making everyone who helped the guy get out so he made them pay like Brett would do with DX VINCE Stephenie Brett's revenge

[@rikmichaels9233]

I wouldn’t say Brett was a king or as hot after 94, that would be Sting in the WCW

[@selfiekroos1777]

What a piece of info that thing was

[@coreyashley4949]

Bret should have gone to Japan. He would have easily been treated way better and had a much easier, fitting round off to his career.

[@BlackSkull289]

The screw job probably did put wwe back on the map and started the rise of the attitude era

[@marcmartocchio2681]

Bret was an unbelievable wrestler and I would never take that away from him but he is unquestionably the biggest Mark for himself and just all-around asshole in every interview I’ve ever heard. Everybody should have a high opinion of themselves but he takes it to another level and it’s every single time I hear him talk. He just can’t help but say how great he is all the freaking time. It’s unnecessary. When you are the greatest, other people say it about you you don’t need to say it about yourself all the time

[@davidwenzel717]

That Roster was super thin, him, razor, Shawn, taker that's about it

[@cl-vision5029]

Mick's daughter turned out to be a complete smoke show 🔥🔥🔥

[@maxcadey9223]

Yeah she's got those hips too

[@acehunter3229]

I disagree with u both, Bret Hart was way hotter...especially how he said u Screwed Me! in like a Constipated way😍

[@kevinpalladino5102]

Cold sore from stress? If that's true then watch out ladies I have a new excuse!!!

[@ivanvalentin3898]

Hahahaha

[@standardofexcellence]

"I am grateful it didn't have bill goldberg."

[@generalideer6421]

Bret is really humble. He failed to mention he invented electricity, discovered gravity, and created the Japanese concept of Kaizen.

[@timlane2642]

There's truth in what he says, even if he does sound arrogant. He put HBK and Austin over at wrestlemania. He had a really believable style, at a time when everyone was sick of the over the top style that Hogan and Flair had.

[@IHateNicolasCage]

He’s the best there is, best there was, best there ever will be, best there was and best there ever will be. That may sound confusing, but it’s not since he also invented time travel

[@alonzor.2912]

🤣

[@danielmedina9205]

He also created the figure 4 on the post

[@michaelihemeje2039]

Don’t be dumb on purpose

[@GP-fs3bi]

Brett never misses an opportunity to put himself over 😄

[@IHateNicolasCage]

Nor should he. He’s the best to ever lace them up.

[@HoustonT17]

"I was the King of the World, in Wrestling, in '92... '93... '94... '95... '96... '97..." 🤣

[@neilsmith9066]

Well he was

[@neilsmith9066]

Flair old, Hogan stale, sting booked like sh#t, Rude hurt and on drugs, Perfect on drugs, Macho McMahon issues, Jake drugs…..

[@HoustonT17]

nWo ruled the world in 1996 Austin ruled the world in 97

[@guileniam]

​@@HoustonT17I'd say 98 onwards was Austin for sure 97 maybe...2000 was the rock all the way

[@MrHarco77]

I'm a huge Bret mark. Not sure if he saved wrestling but he made it feel real. Even if the Screwjob was a work it felt real even though we all knew it was a work. He was a hero in a time where there were none.

[@chrischar9428]

@@leighlowe1069 faked owens death too. He's coming back. See you next Tuesday

[@polisheagle1858]

How long did he say he was the "king of wrestling? lol. Bret loves him some Bret.

[@teddymcfail4359]

When Bret left in 97 there was a noticeable gap that last for like two weeks. It really felt like the air was knocked out. That’s how impactful he was.

[@tafua_a]

From 92 onwards, when Bret was not on top, the product noticeably suffered. Even Shawn Michaels wasn't able to keep it stabilized as much as Bret (had he been less of a dick, he might have though)

[@lwatz7009]

I'll watch Bret matches all day. But you can't convince me he's not a narcissistic pathological liar half the time

[@curthennig9448]

I don't think Bret would be considered a pathological liar. Big ego at times: Yes

[@jasonmccrank4981]

Absolutely not. His book is the best wrestler autobiography, and nobody has ever rebuked anything that he's ever had to say. Even Shawn Michaels, before they even made up in the ring, hemmed and hawed when approached about what Bret had to say about their relationship and the backstage political environment.

[@jasonmccrank4981]

The Kliq always defended their own, but ultimately, they all knew that Bret was in the right. Kevin Nash has some great opinions on all of the 1996 and 1997 drama on his podcast.

[@0XYGENgone]

Bret was a pioneer and the only wrestler to have ever taken the business seriously.

[@knightfall209]

Good damn Bret has spent years on this Montreal thing the whole time he could had open up a wrestling school and trained upcoming talent.

[@littlegipper5798]

You were not the king in 96 or 97, that title went to the Hollywood and the nWo

[@chrischar9428]

Nwo had a nice 3 year run. Hart much longer

[@tafua_a]

To be fair, Bret has always completely ignored any wrestling outside of the WWF. According to Jim Cornette, when the Midnight Express met the Hart Foundation outside the arena one night, Bret asked Owen who were those guys who were talking to Jim Neidhart, and Owen said "the best tag team in the world". "I thought we were the best tag team in the world" said Bret, and Owen was like "you wish!"

[@carn5haun343]

Bret is Brets' biggest fan

[@edgodsall3740]

Never heard of him… 🤪

[@ivanvalentin3898]

Screw job was a work lol

[@richardknight5510]

Brett hart saved wrestling? Ha ha oh come on…

[@chriswillis1585]

Wait, brett said something positive about someone? Drug test.

[@adarbarrush]

It was a work, that's why it " lined up" perfectly

[@Scott-bh2qb]

Oh dear. So sad

[@adarbarrush]

@@Scott-bh2qb it's sad you think a stunt like that would have worked without Bret's knowledge

[@Scott-bh2qb]

@@adarbarrush really sad that you live n conspiracy

[@adarbarrush]

@@Scott-bh2qb right, because a seasoned veteran with multiple friends and family members in the same company decide to all show up on the same day and with a Tv crew and Vince McMahon would allow Bret to have a mic on him

[@carloss1626]

Your kind are the flat earthers of the wrestling community.

[@redrabbit1478]

Can’t believe he thinks he saved wrestling

[@williewest2998]

Who did?

[@samdustinchris]

@@williewest2998 Gilberg and Glacier. Another dream match we never got😢

[@korubi_eCSTatic]

frosty balls

[@justinabell5550]

He didn't actually say that. He said Sgt. Slaughter told him that he saved wrestling.

[@OfficialFingazMC]

It was a work, probably only the people directly involved knew though. Vince didn't sell 2 torn quads, but he sold a black eye, which Bret says was from an uppercut... Trust me none of it adds up.

[@josereyes1148]

What doesn't add up is it being a work. Why would Vince develop the most talked about "angle" for the last 25 years, build a sympathetic Babyface out of his former world champion and then send him to wcw to prosper and continue the momentum? Obviously, wcw didnt continue the momentum because they were stupid and let politics destroy the company. Vince wouldn't have known that was going to happen though in 1997. He can't assume wcw would botch bret hart as bad as they did. You would have to assume anyone who isn't incompetent would get some value out of the best "angle" ever being served to them in a silver platter. It makes no sense for Vince to do that.. Heck, you might say that the plan worked for wwf in creating the Vince McMahon character. Look back though, Vince didn't know what he had there either. He was trying to come off as the good guy saying Bret screwed Bret and "the time honored tradition blah blah". It was only after weeks of realizing the fans hated him for it that he pivoted and became the heel we know. Bit of a long response but to sum it up lol, it being a work makes no sense for me.

[@OfficialFingazMC]

@@josereyes1148 Personally I think Vince said to Bret, we'll make it an angle and I screwed you to send you over there being white hot as a compensation for backing out on the 25 year contract thing.

[@josereyes1148]

@@OfficialFingazMC sorry lol. I just don't see it. I know neither of us will convince the other but I'll have a friendly debate on it here briefly. Vince offered the 20 year contract out of fear that Bret would go to wcw. He then had buyers remorse because 20 years into the future is way too hard to predict. He still wanted Bret but there was just no way he could do that. So, he panicked and feared losing Bret to wcw, offered 20 yr contract and then backed out.. So then, he goes from fearing losing Bret to offering Bret to wcw AND placing him in a super hot angle to plug into his competitors tv show? I'm sorry it just doesn't add up to me. Not only that but you can see the resentment from Bret 25 years later. That isn't an angle being worked, that is legit resentment from his boss screwing him.

[@TL2354]

You couldn’t add up 2+2

[@idkmybffjv]

@@josereyes1148 watch Scott Hall talk about why he thinks it was a work, I agree with him.

[@thomaskabara3614]

Raging narcissist.

[@RCstrats]

Bret!! Please stop talking about the past . Your becoming a mere cartoon of yourself!! It’s sad !!

[@TL2354]

It’s sad that you don’t know the difference between your and you’re

[@endezeichengrimm]

you're* The interviewer asked him about it..... Also, he is never going to read your comment.

[@henrikschmidt3964]

Do you expect Bret to look to the future? All of those great matches he is going to have? No, he is a retired wrestling veteran and people often stick to what they know. So as to not come off as being so ignorant, you know...

[@AlbertonBeastmaster]

He's being asked questions in an interview about it!

[@blakeb9964]

All wrestlers do lol

[@SaniTV82]

he is so self centered, saved wrestling, lol. I loved him growing up but come on

[@jeremybarcelo6486]

He is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

[@ordohereticus3427]

It must be painful to be as simpleminded as you. Hopefully you don’t struggle too much with daily tasks.

[@curthennig9448]

@@jeremybarcelo6486 That's what most of the women on the road said to him in the morning at the hotel.

[@undertakerfanz628]

Bret Miserable man ❤️

[@TheManInTheLongBlackCoat]

He got cheated and insulted by his boss in front of his family, friends, and his country, suffered a stroke, he split up with his wife and, obviously, a relative got killed. If he is unhappy then he has every right to be.

[@DarkCloudCompendium]

Have some respect

[@zachxavierpatatag8393]

@@TheManInTheLongBlackCoat way before that, he became a mark for himself like rejecting the edgy product, then want these technical workrate match everytime that no one cares.

[@josereyes1148]

Your opinion of Bret is way off. He may have snubbed his nose at the attitude era raunchy but that doesn't mean he just wanted k technical ability and no flash. Look at the stampede stuff Bret grew up on. They knew how to get heat. It wasn't just technical boring wrestling.

[@zachxavierpatatag8393]

@@josereyes1148 no one knew stampede wrestling but even then in the real world, primarily in the US, people would care about the substance of a match. Technicality or workrate stuff is another, heck if there is, it should not last more than 15mins. As u can see many people cited bret as their heroes and look what we have now, a bunch of technical workrate soyboy kids swarming on national TV because of a false idolatry.