The Beomhan Situation Has Gone Too Far

[@jaimeeshivers5001]

Someone needs to take his phone away and I’m so serious. He needs help. I almost feel bad. This is why it’s so important to have a support system in careers like this.

[@kingofdragons7]

No, people need to leave him alone 😢

[@Stinkycewchy]

@@kingofdragons7it’s his fault. He’s doing this out of free will?

[@kingofdragons7]

@Stinkycewchy no it's not, what he said wasn't even offensive and people WISHED DEATH on him already knowing he has mental problems, get a grip

[@Woncloudd]

​@@Stinkycewchy Mental problems are as far away as they can be from free will. That state does not define someone

[@randomuser-nt9if]

i thought he had went away for good but it seems he came back? yikes.

[@Alyssa-yk3nr]

Like as you said, he should've just left at the first apology and turned his phone off because people on the Internet have NO chill..

[@Alyssa-yk3nr]

It's very clear he isn't in the right mental state and being on social media just makes it worse, especially when there's trolls online.

[@cocomelon2346]

People wasn't gonna accept the apology instead they still decided to send him more threats so he took the apology back than later on posted another apology.

[@Alyssa-yk3nr]

​@@cocomelon2346 idk, man im confused. Bro just needs to temporarily delete his socmed accounts because this ain't doing him no good 🤷‍♀️

[@nezuko1wi]

No what he said is wrong.

[@LKelz]

@@Alyssa-yk3nr honestly I feel like he took the apology back when. People don’t give him a break . People online , especially the left are so judgmental ( I am from the left btw ) . It’s so sad . He went off cuz clearly those words hurt him and he felt that

[@Mokeypoem27]

This situation also shows why many of these idols are controlled on what they say by companies because if many idols weren’t, a lot of them probably would have crashed out already on live like beomhan did

[@DilucImpact23]

So true 100%!!

[@-.Alastor.-]

Yurpppp

[@randomuser-nt9if]

foreign idols tend to appear more dramatic imho due to this reason, like its no wonder he isnt a full on idol because hardly anyone would stand to be around someone like that and it seems like he keeps looking for ways to get certain responses from his manipulated young audience on tiktok.

[@crackheadsimagination1135]

​​@@randomuser-nt9ifHe ain't manipulating anyone. Y'all are just too sensitive. (I don't mean the joke, I mean overall other stuff. 💀)

[@YUI-ws2xs]

​@@crackheadsimagination1135bro needs to chill fr he needs a break and i don't think that's being sensitive he really needs to keep that phone aside and chill for a while And please have some common sense which isn't very common these days

[@Urlovelystay]

As someone who's really only on youtube and doesn't have any other social apps, this was my first time seeing the hate on beomhan and i was really confused from that whole escalation. What beomhan said definetely was NOT right but the comments telling him to off himself and calling him the r slur wasn't right either. Both sides have something to be mad about and i don't have any say in this but i was kinda disappointed in beomhan tbh

[@-.Alastor.-]

Exactly!!!

[@mcdonaldsworkerrazor]

same here i only have instagram and youtube and my friend who has tiktok recently told me how problematic he is, i was so surprised at how he did this all to himself and started yelling at people when he got backlash. he shouldve just deleted social media tbh

[@-.Alastor.-]

@@mcdonaldsworkerrazor Yeahh I recently got tiktok and omg 💀💀.. Just stick with Insta and KZbin

[@Urlovelystay]

​@@mcdonaldsworkerrazorExactly, he's pouring fuel into the fire, all of this would've calmed down sooner or later if he would've just put his phone down. Beomhan has lots of fans who still support him if he left it at the apology all he would've had was a few haters

[@OGseoulite]

For the last 2 years I’ve been wondering WHY no one in his family has taken his phone yet, sat him down, and intervened. They need to be held accountable for not giving a fuck cause why would you allow a family member be strung out on the internet like this unless you just don’t care?????

[@jasonhammett8275]

Money

[@Alex-cj2kc]

That’s his source of income and he also helps his family too

[@bluesidecollection]

To be honest whether his family cares or not doesn't matter. He's a grown adult, so his family can only do so much. Unfortunately, it is hard for the family of adults to get them help because they have to agree to get help. Hopefully, his family is supportive of him getting help and he realizes that he needs help.

[@arisboba]

He's a grown ass man and his own person, his family isn't responsible for his actions. It's not their job to rein him in, he simply needs to grow up, receive therapy for his own sake, and mature emotionally.

[@OGseoulite]

@ I’m not saying they should be held responsible FOR his actions I’m saying try oils be held responsible for failing to be a proper support system for him at the very least. OF COURSE he is responsible for his own actions, I’m just questioning why people in his life see these antics and don’t try to help him in any way. Don’t be dense. I constructed my comment very carefully and CLEARLY. You took an inch and just ran a mile huh????

[@MamaOc_]

As a 27 year old black woman, I’ll say this. Do I think he needs a break from social media for his own mental state, absolutely because it can really take a toll. Do I completely blame him for his crash out, no. One thing about the internet is that people get very bold and comfortable behind a screen. His joke, I didn’t think was funny but I also didn’t think it was that offensive. I mean with the way trump has been talking and the way he has a lot of these men comfortable saying “your body, my choice”, he was kind of right, RIP women, we are going to be fucked. Everybody has been making jokes, especially on twitter and TikTok as some sort of coping mechanism because we know what’s to come. Telling someone to kill themselves will never be okay to me though, that’s never a proper response especially to someone with mental health issues. But I can also understand the whole “being internet responsible”. He could’ve left it at the apology, but at the end of the day we are all human, certain things will trigger us to crash out. Btw I’m not necessarily defending him because honestly idk the kid like that. I’m just tired of all the hate when it’s easier for all of us to be more empathetic and treat others how we want to be treated. But I digress…

[@-.Alastor.-]

I agree 100%. Some kid argued with me because I stated my opinion. I said the same thing you did about what he said and all. I just hope he finds the help he needs because all of this is making him stress and shit.

[@queenj8886]

👏👏👏👏 I love ur comment

[@oogabooga5510]

thank you for stating this, it’s exactly what i’m thinking! I think everyone’s blowing it out of proportion when there’s other situations going on that people should be focused on. It’s really not anyone’s business what he’s doing, if he needs help he needs to be the one to take the initiative. I also think what he said wasn’t even something to be mad about. people online saying “i finally have a reason to hate him” uhhhh no one said you had to like him??? yet they take this opportunity to hate on a random dude on the internet. for what?? i don’t get it unless the dude did something REALLY horrible. like criminal worthy stuff man 😭 i dont know, i just don’t get the extreme hate. I hope he gets the help he needs, and i sincerely hope people back off. Hate on people who really deserve it instead!!!

[@radioactive_baby]

This

[@Kat123-v9n]

100000% well put ❤

[@vip5hawol-deehirota]

people took this shit way too far, had me pissed tf off during his last live. i won't say much else because im tired smfh

[@heartseroton1n]

I feel like after his first apology, he should have turned his phone off and taken a year long break. Trying to respond to every comment because they were genuinely hurt and upset by what you said, wasn't going to do him any good. I would say some people were wrong for saying he should unalive himself. He dug himself in a hole that honestly could have been avoided.

[@saaa_naaa]

I agree that he should turn his phone off 😔

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

And the people calling him r slur were messed up for that too

[@skzbrokenwingz]

the thing that shocked me the most like a few days ago was that he has a girlfriend after saying you cant do that bc you will betray your fans 😭😭

[@YUI-ws2xs]

Fr bro has gone crazy

[@AwakeningWings]

Brainwashing, which some idols go through can cause this kind of talking. And it was an older tweet, right? I hope he grows out of it and looks like he has sort of.

[@skzbrokenwingz]

@ he said it in a livestream if I remember correctly but I hope so aswell!

[@thethreestrandsofhairyeonj315]

Girl wasn't he being sarcastic 😭😭😭bcuz of his company and shit😭❓

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

Bro is not mentally okay. Dude where is his personal support system friends? Family? Someone needs to sit and talk to him.

[@xkireiv]

It did scare ts out of me but his mental state is not in the right place and you can see it. So many things happened to him over the years and his mental can’t handle it. Yah the way he handled it was wrong and he should have not cussed them out. Some people are sensitive and you can see that he was joking about what he was saying. He has severe adhd. Social media is making his situation even worse and it is ruining his reputation but sometimes people don’t understand . I really do hope he gets better and I really do want him to stay away from social media, go on hiatus to get better. I really wish him the best. (Please don’t come for me!)

[@bambinaorsa1661]

I agree 100%. He's always been very satirical and dry with his humour and it makes it very easy to remove context and just clip a sarcastic flippant remark and say it's his viewpoint. The interent advocates for mental health and the complexities of it, encouraging empathy and understanding right up until they can use someone's poor mental health as ammunition for their own hateful agendas. He's just a kid. Being over 18 doesn't immediately qualify you as knowing everything and having all societal skills mastered. He's a young kid who's been chewed up by a hateful industry and goes to his community to cope. People outside of that community don't care about him and just want their own opinion to become the narrative. He needs some grown 30+ up help and support.

[@mcdonaldsworkerrazor]

hes gotten so used to being satirical about everything that he joked about the wrong thing and im surprised this hasn't happened sooner. what he needs is a good year long break and to get on meds

[@laurenashleigh_vsg]

Any “but” after an apology negates the whole apology. Just my opinion.

[@thispeachleaf]

I am sorry but he isn’t an idol he is a tiktoker idc what anyone says

[@cocomelon2346]

I mean duh 💀

[@l0velyfl0wer]

This. I feel like because he recognises that he was one of the most popular trainees, has many people that will support him no matter what, that there’s some arrogance behind his words

[@seafoodjapchae]

Yep,I didn't even know he was an idol,I just saw a clip of him talking about his father being married and happy or whatever

[@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds]

@@seafoodjapchaehis dad remarried?

[@seafoodjapchae]

@@SUNSHINELIX-hl8ds no I think someone asked him if his father is handsome as a joke and he joked back

[@Kca.bella_]

I would understand his crash out if those comments came out nowhere or his music but he does also need to hold himself accountable

[@DREARBEATS]

would you say the same thing if he was a woman

[@U.vonni.808]

@ DREARBEATS yes.

[@Caitilizzie]

@@DREARBEATSUh, what does that have to do with anything? Not once did that comment even mention his gender. But yes, i’m sure people would since they are criticizing his actions, not because he’s a man

[@watertribeskye]

that "no girlfriends" take is insanity?? like being an idol, a performer, is a JOB??? why shouldn't they spend their hard earned money on their loved ones??? why does it mean they can't have lives?? fans who agree with that need to touch some serious grass

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

I think because he was still in the company at time and the people he surrounded himself with who probably told him those things. But yeah that was pretty weird ngl,,,

[@arplve]

as a mentally unstable person myself, there is NOTHING that justifies any of this shit lmfao. it is really hard to even feel bad for things _he_ himself has done AND said. i knew of him since his beginning too! he was about to make his debut but it was ass and that was it and we moved on. people loved him, before he opened his mouth for things on real life shit that women in america have to live with unwillingly. was just not it. with all this fire aimed at him right now, he needs to see how to deal with it and toughen up tbh. that's how all of us learn it best after all. but the people on the fkn internet should seriously stop throwing out "kys" so casually as well. it is even said between friends and that is honestly so fucked up how "normalised" it became and laugh everything off as a 'joke'. the internet is Cooked. i'm sure with him being on the internet himself though, he knows it fucks with his head even more. he will have to receive it right now and do something more productive with his time cuz essentially he is also spreading hate himself, aimed at different age-range of people that watch him. that's all there is to it. he doing it to himself, really. also the self-harm thing is Fucked UP. go see your therapist. the people on the internet can't help with that idkkkkk get professional help

[@-.Alastor.-]

Finally someone said it. I do think he should learn from his actions because the joke wasn’t funny but the things are saying to him is a bit over the top.

[@-.Alastor.-]

He fr needs to know the consequence’s though

[@alexaar4951]

I think he relies on social media for support (which is not healthy at all, and I think he has become too comfortable with sharing his life on social media and his making himself very vulnerable), and that’s why when he seems to be going through a hard time, he goes back to social media. It’s not healthy at all and he should change that habit, but right now he is too unstable to realise that. He needs support from close family and friends and *they* need to tell him to get off the internet. He is spiralling and he will only get worse and I don’t think he is stable enough to figure a way out. It’s very understandable that he’s upset that people are threatening him, encouraging him to off himself, and call him slurs. He doesn’t deserve that at all. But again, got too mentally unstable from it and he had gotten too comfortable with the internet and unfortunately decided to respond in an irresponsible way. It’s not justifiable, but understandable. Different people are affected in different ways by things, and while many people may not do the same that Beomhan did in this situation, there are also many people who would’ve. No one can tell how mentally unstable he is as no one has been in his situation or knows how he is feeling. I’m worried, because he seems very close to the edge. I hope he can get support as soon as possible.

[@hutao3324]

Finallyy someone said this, cus I see so many people going "he's in a bad place" or "he has severe send/mental health" and as so done going thru THE EXSCT SAME THING with no support system, even I know better than this we just definitely have empathy and shouldn't say certain things but he has to deal with the consequences of his OWN actions at his big age!!

[@yuukichi4879]

Poor guy honestly. I remember when everyone loved him because he was so funny and relatable…

[@staciii]

I kinda love that you're also reflection on yourself while watching this video. I'm not sure what you prev. said on twitter, but it's good you can see the other person's perspective

[@annx.21]

i hope he takes a time off social media, cause this ain’t the first time we’ve seen how bad his mental health is.

[@jhonaleegardner3094]

The funny thing is that he only cussed at the people who sent death threats to him on the live and on twt which I don't blame him for. He has been through so much bro. He has been jumped twice in NY and people have said the worst about him. Yes he made an insensitive joke (which was unfunny) but the hate is too much now. I have seen so many people joke about the election on platforms like TT and nobody bats an eye. He is young and struggles with ADHD and other mental illnesses yet every other month I see hate comments surfacing about him. It's always pro mental health until it comes to idols (or in his case almost idol). If I were him I would just step back and live a quiet life because no matter what he says he will never be good enough for the people who hate him. And AGAIN! It's okay to be angry and reprimand him for his statement but telling a living person to just die is waaayyyy to far. The same way I feel about funeral wreaths being sent to Seunghan is the same way I feel about these death threats. We have lost too many of these young souls to malicious comments. Anyways I hope the days ahead will be brighter for everyone.

[@l0velyfl0wer]

The thing is, he caters his media towards minors. Minors who mostly, don’t even have the right to vote for the presidential election so him getting political makes no sense. Yes he’s young but if he makes controversial takes, flash self harm scars on lives, makes music that was generally considered bad….he has to understand that it’s the internet, people are going to dislike him and if he mentally cannot handle it…he should leave.

[@DilucImpact23]

@@l0velyfl0werhonestly not saying ur wrong about but as an adult i also watch him and honestly i understand his jokes

[@jhonaleegardner3094]

@@l0velyfl0wer Did he personally tell you that he caters his media towards minors? He has no control over who watches him. It's not his fault if underage people watch him. Is he supposed to always cover his scars and suffer in silence? Are his scars dirty to you. He is literally screaming for help and I can empathize because I have been there. He is younger than me and I feel for him because everything is been thrown in his face at a young age. Yes okay his debut was objectively bad but that does not mean he is untalented nor does it excuse bullying. When his song came out people made so many insensitive jokes and what did he do? He acknowledged the criticism as being right and asked for help. Under the wrong management and circumstances a lot of artists would make trash music too. That this is the internet doesn't give anyone the right to make him feel the need to unalive himself especially when he is just trying to survive. P.S/ Minors are not dumb. They may be young but most of them understand the unrest that this election has brought. When I was a teen I understood better than some adults so that's not even an argument imo

[@RekhaSharma-hh1sv]

@@jhonaleegardner3094 excusing so much problematic behaviour instead of telling him to keep his phone down and get mental help and to stop emotionally manupilating and blackmailing people by threatening Su****e is a choice . and you are a wierdo for making that choice .

[@l0velyfl0wer]

@@jhonaleegardner3094 1. His content obviously caters towards younger audiences, that is mainly the demographic of his fan base and that’s easy to tell. 2. No his scars aren’t dirty? But if you actually watch the whole clip of where he done it, he didn’t start of by saying that he would be mentioning triggering topics (which is what mature people usually do), he randomly said “look at this” and shown it. he treated his fan base as his therapist which was odd, don’t get vulnerable to people you don’t know - media training 101 3. I never said that it was okay for people to send hate to him for a song, any artist should expect criticism regardless. I never said it made him untalented either? If you produce content worldwide, understand not everyone is gonna like it. I’m saying that he has no media training or understanding, which is why many people are making fun of this whole situation.

[@cerisemin]

He could never be an idol. Really shouldn’t even be a content creator. He’s too reactive and he doesn’t know how to walk away from something. There’s always going to be people criticizing or hating, spending all his time fighting and arguing with people isn’t doing any good. It worsens his public image and it worsens his mental state. It’s an idiotic cycle. Really truly he needs to turn off the phone and get therapy. He’s going to burn out from crashing out at every negative comment.

[@l0vestay]

he went live today too and during the whole live he was showing conversations between his girlfriend and him and how her friends were warning her of him. like bro, youre not helping your case

[@zuwislyyyy]

people was spreading rumors the staff named Spencer had created and Beomhan was getting more hate. So Beomhan had to expose the fact he had a girlfriend to prove what Spencer said was false. Spencer got drunk, cried and told beomhans girlfriend and friends that he was a bad person and his girlfriend said that she and his friends knew it wasn't true but comforted Spencer anyway

[@ELA._.BORATED]

​@zuwislyyywhat rumors y

[@zuwislyyyy]

@@ELA._.BORATED Spencer put out a statement saying basically saying Beomhan is terrible person and manipulative and all these things. mind you, Spencer bern talking about him for a while wayyyy before this to gain clout. Spencer posted that to make people believe that Beomhan was this crazy manipulative person. And Spencer was the one to talk to Beomhan girlfriend behind Beomhan back. So Beomhan show screenshot to prove the Spencer was talking to his girlfriend because his girlfriend told him through text. His girlfriend told him Spencer was saying all this about Beomhan and that she and his friends knew it wasn't true

[@zuwislyyyy]

@@ELA._.BORATED Spencer posted saying Beomhan was this crazy manipulative person. Mind you, he was talking about Beomhan wayyy before this happened to gain clout. Also Spencer was talking to Beomhan gf behind his back. So Spencer went out with Beomhan gf and like 3 of Beomhan friends and got drunk saying how Beomhan was this terrible person and all that and his gf had to text Beomhan to let him know what he said and that she and his friends knew it wasn't true. Which is why he had to expose the fact he had a gf

[@brennathecatlover4360]

I think he was trying to show how Spencer was saying to his gf how beomhan is whatever and she saying it was weird. Cuz I’m not saying Spencer is definitely lying but his insta story being like “beomhan is terrible btw stream Jay” made it seem like he’s just using his scandal to promote someone else

[@staciii]

"please be more mindful of your words" the irony

[@itshana69]

Not you comparing him to people who death wished him😂 DEATH WISH.

[@hutao3324]

​@@itshana69so the people who have died to circumstances didn't matter either?? I don't agree with sending him death threats but OP is right there's a a lot of irony abt being mindful with ur words, when the whole reason this happened is bc he didn't do the same🤷🏽‍♀️

[@cranburrey]

@@itshana69 They're not comparing him to them though? Idk where you got that from but they're just saying it's ironic how he's saying that when should've taken his own advice in the first place

[@kurapikaisn0wdr0ning31]

As a woman I did find his initial comment/"joke" to be insensitive, but as this situation has played out Infront of me (as someone who struggles with my mental health and wants to go into a profession where I can help people like Beomhan) this made me realize people (online at least) don't understand mental health as much as they may say they do. I've seen people saying that what he did on that live wasn't justified and I completely AGREE. However, I also saw some people say he is simply a bad person, and I think it is important to acknowledge he has what seems like hyperactive ADHD and has been open about having depression for a long time which caused him to become an easy target for people who hate neurodivergent people ( so...most people). People have been using him as a target for hate and ableism since his earlier days on TikTok and I think he finally met his breaking point. I want to empathize with him, but I also do think the criticism he's been receiving is so valid, not to mention he said that with a predominately female audience. If anything I said doesn't make sense oops ig this is a half-baked thought :0

[@kaputt_jay3873]

I didn't even understand his initial joke 😭 Am I just stupid or

[@kurapikaisn0wdr0ning31]

@@kaputt_jay3873 from my understanding he was referencing an old moment of Kanye west stepping in to highlight Beyonce when Taylor swift won an award at the VMA's in the early 2010's so that's why he brought up the "best music video". Anyone born later wouldn't have understood lol. I'm a 05 so I got it pretty quickly

[@wannabedrewafualo]

@@kurapikaisn0wdr0ning31 yeah, as a fellow ‘05 it clicked right away and I was kinda in awe of how out of line it was for somebody male

[@imthecoolest50]

@@kaputt_jay3873 no I’m so glad I found your comment because I don’t understand whatever he said about Trump. I might also be dumb for not keeping up with world news. Hoping to find someone to help me understand why it’s offensive.

[@Adotworm]

@@kurapikaisn0wdr0ning31Me born in 04 not getting it until I saw this comment lmao

[@dreamie3742]

9:00 this is almost the ‘I’m not sexist! I have sex with women all the time!’ meme, not just beomhan but so many people need to realise that loving women doesn’t equal respecting women, having a black friend doesn’t equal seeing them the same way you see you’re white friends, ect

[@brennathecatlover4360]

Let’s be real if anyone else online made that joke no one would care and he’s really not wrong rip us

[@Keeleychan_]

Some people can go without media training and PR… he is not one of them

[@CreditedBy3Racha]

Beomhan hasnt been in the right mental state for ages, he’s talked about attempts, shows scars and about how sometimes he barely got food, and I think ADHD. I get his comment was really wrong but some people took it too far, he shouldn’t have relied to the comments but getting death threats and stuff isn’t something anyone would be cool about. Beomhan was wrong but I’m also sacred for him, his mental wellbeing is bad and I don’t want it to get worse. I’m not using it as an excuse but people took it too far

[@randomuser-nt9if]

are u a psychologist? no, therefore u cannot legally diagnose anyone without a professional.

[@CreditedBy3Racha]

@I’ve heard a couple say he might that’s why I said “I think” but we all know and he’s been open about other issues and in to saying it as an excuse but sending death threats are too far

[@CreditedBy3Racha]

@ when did I say I legally diagnose him tho-

[@randomuser-nt9if]

@@CreditedBy3Racha u literally claimed he had adhd bruh dont deflect

[@CreditedBy3Racha]

@ I said “and I think” did I say I know or that he does tho- I said I think because I’ve seen people say it but I never said it for sure did I?

[@maryamadiriye6]

I heard some bits and pieces from my sister's and other clips and I don't know what to think anymore. I'm glad you did this video cuz I need this to be explained to me for the 3rd time😭

[@regial17]

The fact that multiple people who knew him personally came out saying his mask slipped and this is him behind the scenes

[@brennathecatlover4360]

I mean Spencer basically said “beomhan is mean😡 btw stream Jay” like to me that just sounds like he’s using the scandal to bring someone else up and we still don’t know who he is as a person but I don’t blame him lashing out at the people harassing him

[@regial17]

@brennathecatlover4360 i wasn't talking about Spencer i was talking about his old team mate / trainee

[@brennathecatlover4360]

@@regial17 if u mean toshi I can’t find anything where does he say something?

[@cal529]

stop infantilizing these men!!! women i am talking to you, this guy needs mental help and everyone excusing his actions needs to realize what he says and does is on HIM do not keep supporting this idol he should clearly not be in this line of work. thank you for speaking about this with common sense man it's really nice to see that when it's rare as a kpop fan to hear others speak sense.

[@SophiaZhu-zr2fl]

As a women I disagree. Kpop fans have to top being so toxic. While he obviously mentally struggling, is that on him? No it's on the toxicity of his line of work. U enabling this isn't helping the kpop industry. Do u really want ur favorite idols to mentally suffer?

[@BonBon069]

⁠@@SophiaZhu-zr2flno but also we have to realise and hold them accountable when they do something wrong but obviously the hate and negativity isnt the eay to do it

[@SophiaZhu-zr2fl]

@@BonBon069 no we should tell him to find another job

[@BlueberrySummertime]

As a woman, I don’t feel like anything Beomhan has said was wrong. It was clear he was joking about the election results and many women did the same thing. I understand it’s a sensitive topic but in the same breath who do they think we’re the majority of trump supporters… men. It’s not easy to feel sympathy for others when you haven’t been in their position (for lots of people) so just as Beomhan didn’t fully grasp the potential severity of this situation his commenters were insensitive about his suicidal ideation (which imo is a lot more severe than the initial statements made by Beomhan). I think at the end of the day people just need to grow up and realise that even if you call someone out for something you deem to be disrespectful they don’t have to listen to you or care. I accept his apology but I do hope he decides to do some research into the history of reproductive rights and see why it continues to be a touchy and serious subject for many women (especially black woc in the West)

[@mistywolfmulti2639]

yeah exactly, i don't really get why people are talking about it like what he said was equally as bad as people telling him to khs especially when they know his history with that. To me it was just a kind of bad joke, but clearly not malicious. The bigger issue here is that it doesn't seem like he is in a good mental space to handle these types of negative comments. He is responding to the most extreme ones which makes it seem like he is getting angry at everyone who slightly criticized him, which I don't think is true. Overall I think he's a good guy, and I think he would be a lot happier if he got off the internet, but I don't really know him at the end of the day so I guess that's all I can say about this. (I will say I heavily disagree with him about the dating thing though, especially after what happened to Seunghan, but that seemed like a pretty old clip so his views may have changed on that)

[@shawol5253]

A lot of women including myself voted for Trump. What's the issue is the left wing media demonizing Trump and Trump supporters. Have you seen all the leftist losing their minds on social media, specifically TikTok? The fact that if you wear a Trump hat you could get assaulted. A lot of people who are leftist really believe their rights are going to be taken away. It's insane. The media was saying that he was going to start ww3. Look at what Biden is doing right now right before he leaves. One thing I can say to anyone who really hates Trump, watch full interviews, watch media from both sides and the source and see how things are portrayed. Really start to question why there's so much attack on this man. The presidents who went against the establishment are usually assassinated or attempted.

[@piixelll]

its so hypocritical of him to say "be mindful of your words to strangers" when one of the viral clips from his crashout live is him calling women who were calling him out bitches and when someone asked "what did you just call me" he replied with "i called you a fucking bitch". using degrading insults towards women while you're in the middle of a misogyny controversy is...

[@piixelll]

also just to clarify i have nothing against the word bitch, its more about how its used. using it to degrade a woman is disgusting, especially when the entire controversy is about you being disgusting towards women?????

[@kaputt_jay3873]

Very true. Sadly, it's hard to contain your emotions when you're livestreaming. He should have taken this into account and refrained from broadcasting so recently after the controversy.

[@bamgyuuu304]

i agree he was wrong for doing that, but the same people on twt accusing him on saying insults were insulting him worse. It's quite hypocritical

[@randomuser-nt9if]

red flag alert 🚩

[@brennathecatlover4360]

@@randomuser-nt9ifyea the people harassing him are red flags

[@jhyghp]

beomhan shouldnt have taken back the apology. like the audacity to take back that apology is insane. He says that "he has a mom and a sister" but that doesnt change the fact that what he said was total straight up disrespect and he should face the consequences. Ik he is suffering with mental health, so he should turn off his phone and take a break. And no one deserves to be told to "kys"

[@randomuser-nt9if]

bro shouldve just logged off or even deleted his account

[@xxmidnightmoonglowxx]

I think his obvious mental health crisis is enough of a ‘consequence’ don’t you? What else do you want from him? Who is he disrespecting? He is a stranger. This is getting creepy tbh I don’t get how people can be so unempathetic to someone experiencing a probable manic episode, and turn around and call him disrespectful? Please get a grip, I don’t even know who this boy is but he doesn’t actually deserve thousands of people to loudly and consistently attack him online for making an off colour joke and being a bit cringe. Everyone needs to log off, not just him

[@jhyghp]

@@xxmidnightmoonglowxx I feel bad for him and ik his mental health is bad but cmon bffr. He disrespected women and took back the apology. Stop babying him

[@oliviahyerobrine]

@xxmidnightmoonglowxx ?? he disrespected women and hes a grown man . he should grow up a mental health crisis isnt a real consequence its his problem thats his fault . he should lose all female support and he deserves his backlash . he is not a baby

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

I mean I guess I personally wasn't offended by the whole election thing I saw it as a joke to lighten up obviously he doesn't support Trump

[@itsceleste8825]

People took what he said on the live (about the election) way to far. If anyone else had done it, no one would have a problem, but Beomhan does need help. It was honestly really scary seeing him like that, he needs to leave social media for a while and recoup. I also wanna say that flaming him on social media is definitely not gonna help.

[@snuggies8037]

He is not well mentally and needs help. He is obviously in a manic state

[@StaylixXD]

What is the chance i was just in the middle of watching this video of Beomhan and i see in my notification that your video just got out so i just got here from that exact video LMAO.

[@kamen8361]

I honestly still think he is a decent guy, but it was only a matter of time before he crashed out, what he said was wrong and in bad timing but it was not deserving of the hate, yall could've just educated him on where he made a mistake, concisdering he has adhd he probably didnt know how bad it was, he apologized and yall kept going, like he said something super horrible

[@randomuser-nt9if]

"decent guy" or not wait until theres a bigger scandal years down the line where people would think no he would never do anything wrong mhmm thats what they want you to believe that they are decent people. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@kamen8361]

@randomuser-nt9if he's a decent guy in this moment, you cant jump to a conclusion and assume he's gonna be bad, when you dont know that...we can only say he's a good guy now and if he becomes bad or spirals down a wrong path, then we gotta let him go🤷🏻‍♀️

[@randomuser-nt9if]

@@kamen8361 i can have whatever conclusions i want of anyone who posts on flipflop tiktokt whatever the heck u wanna call it. he wants an audience

[@randomuser-nt9if]

@@kamen8361 so u lot will defend red flags mmm k noted

[@anabelroutledge]

Honestly I think he is long overdue for a break from socials and needs to understand that sadly he can't joke with fans like he can with friends. His jokes are inappropriately timed but also have an inappropriate audience. He might have started off by letting people in but now for his career AND LIFE'S sake he needs to take a step back from people. It's a sad yet true part of his position and I can't help but dread that this will end with him no longer on this planet. He needs help and space and hopefully that can save him

[@Slantishka]

I love how a celebrity said about a political question. "Everything I do is just making faces for the camera. Why should you be interested in my opinion?" So obviously, for every celebrity whose popularity isn't based on politics, it's just silly to say anything about it!

[@Lyax3180]

People think managers are there to control the artist but the reality is that all idols/artist need a manager FOR THIS EXACT REASON, kpop idols have someone watching their live to avoid situations like this. He needs someone to watch what he says cause he's way to open with his fans and say whatever comes to his mind. You would think that someone who claims "used to be a trainee" under a label, he would understand the consequences of saying this type of things. Everyone knows that politics, religion or any topic that might bring controversy AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE MENTIONED!! Is common sense. He treats fans like his friend's, and from What ive been he doesn't know how to take criticism. Makes sense why he couldn't debut as a idol he can't take it

[@SophiaZhu-zr2fl]

Who do you think you are? He is obviously struggling and he does know how to take criticism just not hate.

[@MiracleBanganyolo]

btw for the question at 3:30 idols get 36$ for music bank, not concerts. Concert money is split between the company and idols which is a lot more than 36&

[@nicolem9930]

i’d also like to point out that he even posted a passive aggressive tiktok doing that trend where you say something and then switch to the forward facing camera he was talking about some “guys stop bullying beomhan and spreading misinformation!” and then he deleted it shortly after. the audacity 😭

[@laucasey6579]

As someone who's never heard of him before this is just really, really sad. Mental illness effects a few people in my family and this was like watching one of their prolonged episodes. Many others have already mentioned it in the comments but the worst thing for him right now is having access to social media. I really hope he gets the help he obviously needs.

[@SunooSlaysEveryDayy]

I don't blame beomhan. The joke was insensitive, but everyone has been making jokes about the topic on internet as a way of coping, telling someone to kill themselves and that it's okay because they've been crying and saying they want to do it will never be okay. I honestly hope he'll be okay, the internet can really get to people's heads.

[@hanjisungs_wife184]

I feel so bad like this is so messed up

[@crystalworld1790]

i think with the "idols shouldn't date" thing he was saying as a joke

[@ynikou]

It was still unfunny tbh

[@alyssa-ol5ce]

I feel like it was the way he said it like tone and things he said after that.

[@Kenjiasamiya]

When he apologized for that he explained that it was a bad opinion of his that he was taught in the industry and he ended up projecting that opinion on other people. So there was no joke involved

[@randomuser-nt9if]

if peopoe found him funny theyd laugh but he keeps asking for it

[@alyssa-ol5ce]

@@randomuser-nt9if I feel like what Sebastian said ( sorry if I am spelling his name wrong) about that he could’ve stopped at the apology and that he would’ve been fine is true because if he didn’t say that he would take back the apology then he wouldn’t be in the mess that he is. If you get what I mean

[@soobiedoobiedoowru]

Take social media away from him please, I hope he can seek help regarding his mental state as it's very obvious he's not exactly mentally stable

[@hyuncute]

thank u for using my video!! i liked ur reaction 💞💞

[@iiraingirlii]

It’s very concerning

[@Booeyy]

something that the video didnt touch on was the second apology. there were like 4 or 5 paragraphs to that apology and the last paragraph said something along the lines of how he still felt justified in what he said but that hes getting help anyways. I feel like you shouldnt be offering apologies until AFTER you get help and you understand a bit better, cuz the whole "I take it back" thing was NOT a good look, so the second apology felt like it was trying to save face rather than offering a genuine apology.

[@zinja0830]

I never followed Beomhan, but I do remember him taking his debut back. Watching this makes me believe a few things that are simultaneously true. 1. He needs help/therapy. 2. He doesn't seem all that smart. At least he seems to lack social intelligence (and this is coming from an autistic person). 3. There's clearly an imbalance in reactions between these people across the internet.

[@cloudsn]

I don't follow him except seeing a few clips. To be honest, he gives manic episode vibes. Like bipolar mood swings. I feel bad for him, he needs some help.

[@Breyyy_yyy]

3:45 im pretty sure bro was being sarcastic and that clip is like 2 years old

[@Mhikaru]

This is coming from someone that’s been a fan of Beomhan for such a long time, so i feel like i need to talk about this. Like Seb said, he should have stopped after the apology. It was obviously very insensitive to joke about that, but he simply did not care that the things he said affected other people and his fans. For him, it would all be okay if no one called him out for it, that’s when he took back his apology. Obviously, i’m not saying that people are right for saying those things, because they are just as wrong. He said something really bad that he shouldn’t have, we get that, but the fact that some people feel like it’s okay to tell him to k*ll himself is absurd. Also, going live to just curse at people wouldn’t make things any better, but it really seems like he’s not okay. I just hope that someone close to him can reach out and tell him to get much needed help. Anyway, this year has been such a mess and i thought that since the year is FINALLY ending, there wouldn’t be any more scandals/drama, but it seems like i was wrong.

[@randomuser-nt9if]

may i ask you what made you be a fan of his? bro has red flag written all over him

[@Mhikaru]

@ well, i just thought that he was a funny guy that genuinely made me laugh. idk, ig he was just relatable 🤷‍♀️

[@randomuser-nt9if]

@@Mhikaru ahh ok, thanks for the explanation i wondered if he had any thing special about him, was he on a survival show?

[@Mhikaru]

@@randomuser-nt9if i don’t think so. he just made lives and talked about being a trainee.

[@chancaniborrowurlaptop]

GUYS??? saying someone one who is so young to kill himself is hurtful especially when he is depressed or whatever and i know what he said was not appropriate but please I'm begging you stop commenting these, and then cry about it a few years later saying that "oh we couldn't protect him" please stop before we loose another one ... please .

[@zuwislyyyy]

right like we know what he said was insensitive but he didn't have any malicious intent. These people sending death threats are going to be the same people to post how they're so sad another idol took their life... and I lot of people don't even know what happened. these the same people who said they were glad he's finally getting hated on bc him and jay were "annoying"

[@chancaniborrowurlaptop]

@@zuwislyyyy so disheartening bro im not fully supporting him but he genuinly looks like he just needs some love 😭like the same person if he makes u laugh u love him and then if he doesn't u tell him to die like??

[@maki1404]

the way he said “take a mental health break day” like he doesn’t need one himself 😭😭😭💀

[@graciousmarwisa9496]

I know his phone should be taken from him but at the same time it seems like he is so deep down in his mental health break that he’s relying on keeping in contact with his fans or whatever which I can I stand but I just hope nothing bad happens to him

[@Maimaiverse]

Yall, he said hes gonna do therapy and said everything he did was wrong.

[@tahitihawaiiblue]

He’s not in a healthy place right now.

[@bop-pq7vf]

he didn't deserve any of that but he could've just stopped at the moment he apologized 😭😭 good god

[@melorei_]

I've been a fan of Beomhan's since early 2023 and I'm a woman in America, here are my thoughts: I know that this definitely does not apply to everyone and maybe I can't read the room or something, but from my perspective, he was trying to make light of a tough situation and was telling us to take care of ourselves, aka the "go shopping" part. Yeah, his delivery might have been iffy, but I don't think he had any malicious intent. This doesn't mean that I excuse his response. REMINDER, THIS IS MY POINT OF VIEW, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO FEEL OFFENDED AND DISAGREE WITH ME. Second point: The dating comment about idols was something he was taught while being a trainee. Almost every idol is taught that, he addressed that months ago and stated that he didn't believe that anymore. Third point: Taking back the apology was a super, super dumb and crappy move on his part. He shouldn't have done that. Fourth point (The crash-out): Besides the slurs he used, I honestly think he has every right to call out the people leaving him death threats. Not via live maybe, that's not the best idea, but leaving death threats is so fucking messed up. I was suicidal at many points in my life, and I know damn well that every comment hits harder in that state. People turned on him so randomly even before all of this and he was getting harassed, belittled, and legit bullied online for stupid reasons. I doubt that the "crash out" was only because of the current situation. I know damn well if I was a public figure who had fake SA allegations created to ruin my career, was made fun of for talking about my struggles, and was bashed for something dumb I said after apologizing too, I'd be just as pissed, maybe even more. Fifth point: The video that Sebastine is reacting to is.. weird to say the least. They brought up past controversies that had already been resolved in a video about a current issue. Maybe it was to make the video longer, get more comments, I don't know. But if they wanted a purely informational video, everything else was unnecessary. All they did was create a bigger hate train for a clearly unstable person. Final thoughts: Yeah, what he said was wrong. How he reacted (taking back the apology), was even worse. But I don't understand the people who are so surprised that he got fed up with the harassment he's been receiving the past two years. He needs a break. REMINDER BEFORE YOU REPLY: I'm not justifying his behavior, he was wrong. These are just my thoughts. Please don't fight with me or be nasty in the replies, I don't want a billion notifications. Love y'all

[@Cherry-xj6jy]

12:30 txt dancing in the back😭

[@Louis0666]

As an American with a uterus, I actually felt his comments to be dark solidarity. Emotions were running high this week, and I can feel the emotion behind his dark joke. Yeah, he was making light of it but so were me and my friends cause we are just trying to cope. I wasn't offended by his dark jokes. However, I can see some people being upset and I think he needed to stop at the first tweet. I'm glad he has been in therapy, he needs to take a break from social media. But hey he gained me as a new follower.

[@thatpersonyoudidntknowexis149]

Honestly for a kpop trainee who almost debuted as an idol, you would think he would know better NOT to respond to hate tweets or any tweets AT ALL. I was under the impression that part of the idol trainee program is to learn these basic things. Either that wasn't the case for his previous label, or he's just... bad at this. As harsh as this may seem, his label was right with removing him. If this was how he stress reacts to online comments, I can't imagine how he is in a work setting. And I am basing this analysis on his livestreams in while he was still at his previous label.

[@oliviahyerobrine]

the otherwise sane women in this comment section being like 'yes his joke was insensitive but i have mental problems too so watching him i feel bad' 💔 youre all giving men like him one thing they will never ever give you and that is respect

[@SupaN0va-10]

As a Beomhan fan I am worried for his health and mental wellbeing. 😢

[@SKZ-SAURUS]

And we want companies to allow idols say whatever the hell they want… Seriously, there’s nothing wrong with a little bit of filtering your words, he’s clearly mentally unstable, l feel bad for him. He should just take a break from social media and rest his brain.

[@peachxtaehyung]

He said ableism isnt funny or ok because people were calling him the r slur and hes neurodivergent and the r word is a slur to neurodivergent and disabled people

[@oreochocolate_lavacake9960]

Yeah he people who said that were absolute hypocrites like...

[@jozi4530]

As a woman I think I’m glad that he’s speaking out about this issue but the rip and the rest was insensitive. he did the right thing apologising, but he really just messed it up when he continued

[@randomuser-nt9if]

agree u cant just excuse it the first time if he keeps peddling his own behaviour hes wearing his "mental health" badge like a fucking personal trophy bro really has mental problems if he keeps at it

[@jozi4530]

@ true

[@kookievueen9892]

I never gave him the time of day and don’t regret it. I guess I smelled the trouble a mile away.

[@never_stay_pink]

I feel like using humor in rough situations can work fine as a coping mechanism and isn’t always harmful with the right people, but Beomhan doesn’t seem to have enough of a filter to know what’s okay on the internet vs. what’s okay in real life. His response to the whole situation is what really made it worse imo. If he had handled it better it could have been salvaged and he would have had hate, but most people could have forgiven him and left it in the past. Based on the way he’s talked about other issues and his own history, he might use humor and the dismissal of important negative things as a way to make them hurt him less, and he didn’t think before doing the same on the internet where he can be seen by anyone. I hope he takes a break from the internet and gets some help. I feel bad for him, but he messed up and he’ll have to fix it if he wants his life back.

[@baby28girl]

Said this from the beginning. He feels way too comfortable online.

[@Ilikebobabawls]

I don’t fw him anymore. Like he’s done a couple shit that shouldn’t have been done . From showing self harm cut to saying stupid stuff. Like he meant it , but apologized bc people took it in a way he didn’t want them to . As for the company I don’t think he left because they had rule and shit for him to follow . He obviously did t follow the policy. I don’t blame him either for the crash out , he’s human . But he keeps fucking up , he’s a grown ass man … he should know when to shut up . Ik he was joking about the trump thing , but what didn’t he expect ? Not everyone no’s gonna take that lightly. I used to support him and stand up , but he’s doing g too much rn . He needs a break from this shit . He rushes through his music . Ik anyone would be happy to debut but nvr rush things bc it takes time !

[@A.S.H1227]

12:15 is when I guessed he was from NewYork... He acts just like the crazy weird ]o on the street that you try to ignore and pretend are not there 😭

[@akissiDraw]

Its sadden me to see him downhill like that when i remember him being happy to learn Korean, having a debut and all....

[@marythegenuine5040]

I feel like the way all this started is crazy cuz like people only payed attention to him being funny and never to his music that's how he got famous literally by being funny , he saw it's bringing his people and follows so he just kept on going until he messed up and people has no chill, somebody should've got involved in this situation from the beginning like as a company they should've only mad ehim focus on his music instead of introducing him as this comedian idol to bring followers i feel like he was used in a way , i he just wanted to achieve his dream now all of a sudden it all crashed out, as a conclusion...idols life isn't for him literally, this man has so many opinions and was soo impressed by idol life and literally look at it from the childish side like idols should't have girlfriend blah blah ...bruh what?? A mature normal person would never think like that he literally ain't mature he doesn't know the difference between a joek and an offence, this man should take a break fr, and honestly i feel like what he's doing now is his true self , i feel like he was just faking a personality and pushed himself to the point where he is now.

[@woni3star]

and the fact that if he finally gets in his right mind and apologises for lashing out, people are not going to accept it anymore since he already took it back once. his credibility is out of the roof basically.

[@ot7biasedmashups]

Yk there's a lot of issues with Beomhan. Most importantly this kid needs therapy and his phone taken away. But a huge issue is also that he went so viral unfortunately bc the majority of his fans fetishize Asian guys. Beomhan isn't even an idol. He was a trainee but never debuted. His solo debut was not Kpop or had anything to do with the industry. The song was ass but hey that's fine. The problem is he then hosted a challenge where the best remix would get released together with I believe $1000 for the winner. They never actually got compensated and so he tried to bury the whole thing. So what's left is that so many people "stan" a random dude who spread misinformation, threatened su1c1de multiple times, is holding onto his time as a trainee and actively exploits the fact that so many people only like him cuz he's Asian. The entire situation is bad but yeah get that kid into therapy.

[@moonscore77]

The joke he made wasn’t even that offensive compared to the jokes everyone else is making on insta/tiktok so that’s not really the problem here. It’s the way he responded to that backlash which just fuelled the internets fire for an unnecessary feud. He really needs to take a break and chill.

[@JBeechem]

I hope he’s doing better and hopefully he’ll take a break from social media and focus on himself and find his passion

[@onceyouwheeinyoucantwheeout]

This guy’s favorite word is like 😆

[@mirnasaifi3819]

Im going to be honest, i saw his crashing out live after he posted it on instagram and only took his word for it and didn't educate myself. That, i regret. Im glad i watched this video and truly understood the whole situation with background context in mind of the other things he has said and done in the past. Honestly, he shouldn't be joking about matters as garsh as this, or at least this soon, and he should've taken accountability and left it at that. With that in mind, I also dont think it was justifiable to call someone a slur, or repeat it on his end, or tell them to kys. That honestly is messed up. I also agree with the fact that if he just left his first appology at that, all this woundnt have happened, and his crashing out was insane. But he was suffering a lot as we could see over the years. Again, this is not justification for his actions. Honestly, this man needs to step away from social media, heal, and come back with a better mental state.

[@maki1404]

tbh from way back i always knew he was a bit unstable so… sad to see its progressed and he’s continued to be in the public eye when he should be surrounded with supportive ppl and spend time offline

[@arisintellect]

hes basically doing something bad and apologize and the loop continues

[@rand7556]

BTHB stage caught my attention

[@Mimikyu560]

What happened to my beomhan? I was just waiting for him to debut 😭😭

[@nicole_rogue]

I don't know that I agree that he should just eat the consequences. Telling someone to kms especially when you already know this person has ideation is disgusting. What he said was inappropriate and not funny, but I don't feel like his intentions were to be offensive. He has a bad case of spewing things out of his mouth before thinking or preparing it to come across the way he intends. There is an appropriate response to what he said and that's to let him know it's not cool and that it made you feel uncomfortable. It's not tell him he's worthless, call him the "r" word, and that he should not exist anymore. People behind screens really lose all their humanity because of anonymity. He was also very clearly spiraling. It's obvious his mental state is not great. He needed more kindness and grace. Not ridicule and threats.

[@rileygay1235]

i feel like a.) mental health definitely plays a part here and there are a lot a people talking about that so i won’t touch on that further (which i’m glad about! i’m happy people are approaching this topic with that nuance), and b.) beomhan’s fandom and popularity heavily relies on the parasocial relationship he has with them. yes most celebrities have parasocial relationships with their fans, but beomhan is way more candid with fans than other idols and artists are, so that could be another reason why he made his comment on idols in relationships

[@LKelz]

I was suicidal due to online bullying I acted exactly like how he acted and still does sometimes . Influencer or not . Words does hurt .” People don’t matter “ “ words don’t matter “ they do . We are human , we all want to belong . You can’t just tell someone who is hated by everyone that “just get over it , they dont matter “we as human being care about what other think. . The fact he has apologized multiple times but people still judging him shows how brutal people are . And he apologized so much until he snapped off because he cares . It’s not just “ you are mentally ill you need to change “ No , y’all need to be chill and stop judging people . Shit I got hate from Jill Stein supporters for voting for Kamala (simply because I tried to stop Trump Eventhough I hate Biden ) And yes us Liberals and people on the left are the most judgmental, word policing people I ever seen . And this is speaking as someone who is far left and who often called out people wrong choice of words Words hurt , you can’t just blame people who are judged say we as mentally ill and needs help . You think treats us like shit gonna help us be better ? Srsly ?

[@1Jaehyun]

100/100

[@niraxlevi9930]

You are a pick me stop twisting the situation, yes he received hate but you acting like his mental health is relevant it's crazy i suffer more than both of you yet i don't spit b4llsh1t like that,he indeed needs to get over it not because he's feelings don't matter,no but because what's the point ? Haters will hate regardless unfortunately

[@LKelz]

@ for real . Man us Liberals are so judgmental. Clearly he hates a Trump presidency that’s why he made that joke . The joke is bad but his intention wasn’t. Man we really should stop all the moral policing and encourage people to change for the better instead of criticize them for everything they do . We all human , words hurt . Be nice

[@xxmidnightmoonglowxx]

@@niraxlevi9930you don’t know what other people are suffering. You’re clearly a child still if you have this mentality. Very cringe. You’re the main character in your own life, not everyone else’s. And lashing out at someone because they don’t ’control’ the symptoms of their mental illness as well as you, a complete stranger, think they should is ableist. Regardless of your own struggles, it is not appropriate to suggest someone isn’t trying hard enough to act normally when you don’t know them at all. I hope you can grow and learn empathy in the years to come. Kindness begets kindness.

[@ynikou]

Yall need to hold him accountable

[@buddies6389]

what do you think it means to hold someone accountable and how can you do that to someone you don’t know?

[@randomuser-nt9if]

they wont because hes a grown adult and grown adults get away with many things

[@CadanceAvery]

I can see how he was trying to make a joke without any malicious intent and it spiraled. But bro should have powered his phone off and gone on a vacation. Not crash out on TikTok.

[@woni3star]

i thought it was like an untold rule not to speak about politics as an idol, i guess because he’s not in a company anymore he totally lost it.

[@zuwislyyyy]

this how i know i could neverrrr be an idol. I feel like I will say something and it would piss a bunch of people off. I would be commenting on every post to defend my name 😭 that's why the block button should be your best friend on the internet

[@yevaak]

so many people are against Beomhan right now and i feel so bad. honestly, having people tell you to k/ys because of a bad joke would definitely take a toll on him. yeah, maybe he could have handled the situation differently, but i can't blame him for reacting this way with the state his mental health is in. some just don't understand that people who say such cruel stuff to Beomhan are evil. he should have a break. i hope he's okay. don't have a go at me because of my opinion.

[@Maimai_0708]

I was in the live yesterday and the situation is rlly sad

[@aliyahmiller6886]

His outburst honestly felt like a long time coming. I feel like this was a result of an accumulation of all that happened to him. Think about it, having to leave a company that outwardly slandered him, having to deal with that false sa allegation, having many hate and clown him for his debut song, having to deal with his own mental health issues and self-harm, plus people just hating his personality. With all of that, I’m not surprised he ended up like this. After that live of him showing that horrible video of I believe the aftermath of him hurting himself, I felt that something was going to fall apart soon. With his joke about the “RIP women” thing, I personally didn’t have an issue with it (I’m speaking as a woman and for myself only, just my opinion and not trying to speak over others). I could tell it was sarcastic and since he is American as well, I didn’t think much of it. Just thought it was an attempt to ease the situation and I didn’t think he had any harmful intentions. I can see how others might not like it so I kind of get some of the criticism (still no excuse for some of the comments made to him tho, especially the threats). But what I think confused me so much is that he hasn’t reacted like this to his other stuff. He has handled other issues in the past before with ease (leaving the old company, the false sa allegation, the hate for his debut, etc.). But now he suddenly freaks out, it was a bit concerning. I don’t think this video was the best to react to because it kind of skipped over some things, both with this incident and with what he has been through. Part of the video made it seem like he took back his apology for no reason when it was actually because of the hateful responses. I’m not saying it was a good idea to take back the apology, but the video didn’t really explain the whole situation well. And I also want to say, while Beomhan isn’t a “saint” here nor am I saying he’s “perfect”, some people are to blame too. Commenting horrible things to him, while believing he should get off social media because he might not be able to handle the comments, doesn’t help. If you’re just sending him constructive criticism, that’s fine, just don’t treat him like a saint nor treat him like a monster. Overall, he does need to get help and stay off social media for a bit. The fact that this was sudden is what’s worrying. He definitely could’ve handle everything better and some of the responses weren’t good, but I feel like their is more going on to why he reacted this way and that some people aren’t helping by enabling him or try to get a reaction out of him. We don’t know him or know anything that could be affecting him behind the camera. He just needs to take a break to collect his thoughts and reflect, then he can try to come back.

[@ev14lyn]

I agree to this!

[@kima_95]

I just watched a Gumiho video on him myself and was confused seeing the lack of contextual information. More so I also thought this video seemed a bit biased, but I guess it is what it is.

[@Josie5195]

Exactly

[@alexrose5466]

Beomhan needs to step away from the Internet for a while. He's not well mentally and the "idol" dream he has crumbled very quickly. He should have left it at the apology, and not freaking out when people call him out for his behavior.

[@lilshawtythebaddest4429]

HE REALLY PULLED A KAMALA WITH THE IMMIGRANT MOTHER TWEET LOLLL

[@Shanaznctzen]

he needs therapy fr

[@JhackyChickez]

this makes me sad 😿

[@staciii]

Beomhan was someone I could never get into. His online presence was too much for me personally and to see this is where he ended up isn't shocking but damn. Let's work hard to see a psychologist again and learn to think before we speak. He really should've stopped at that first tweet after f-ing up but that 2nd tweet showed us he was never really sorry. People on internet will always come back at you with double the anger, hate, rage, etc. you gave them. I don't condone any threats going his way but it'd be dumb to not expect it and then crash out cause of it

[@CAS11236]

I’m sure he is suffering with mental issues, but so am I and so are millions of people. Of course it’s different for everyone and he has a small platform, but I don’t see people or myself blaming my mental illness or threatening suicide if people don’t treat me the way I want to be treated. I don’t see other celebrities doing that. He is 23 and he can’t keep using that as a defense against criticism. He also can’t keep blaming his former company. Someone get him help and teach him how to act and be respectful and sensitive. Saying things like “I’m a brother and a son to women” doesn’t mean much, especially when you make jokes about women’s issues.

[@SophiaZhu-zr2fl]

Youre not an idol and didn't go through half the shit he went through so you can't be talking. You cant blame a mentally unwell person for acting mentally unwell as if he can control it.

[@herneychienverneryia4020]

​@@SophiaZhu-zr2fl being mentally unwell does not excuse your bad actions from consequences, no matter what the situation is. THERAPY AND A BREAK IS WHAT HE NEEDS, ALSO BEING ON THE INTERNET IS NOT YOUR "HOME" TO BE COMFORTABLE, BEC. IT'S A TOXIC PLACE WHERE WHAT YOU SAY OR DO IS FOREVER KEPT OR SAVED FOR PEOPLE TO EITHER MISTREAT YOU, MISCONTRUE WHAT YOU SAID AND/OR DEFEND YOU MINDLESSLY FOR REASONS UNHEARD OF. Idols should've learned of self-preservation when handling themselves while on social media. He is not well media trained or even mentally capable to handle this simple problem. No. 1 rule for entertainer: Never joke or discuss about politics, history, religion, and other socio-economic related discussions, if you are not versed or educated enough about these topics. Hope he comes back better, after this.