Starmer's NHS 'report' is a con trick

Lord Darzi has published a report into the NHS within nine weeks of being commissioned to do so. Hardly any media have questioned the validity of the report that is aimed at giving Keir Starmer and Wes Streeting an opportunity to open up the NHS to more private outsourcing - and to undermine public health even further.
NHS campaigner Dr Bob Gill and Nicholas Csergo (SHA) provide the analysis.

[@TonyRobertson6]

put starmer and Tony and Mandy in prison

[@tonyfincham6126]

Every thing Starmer has said or involved in is a con .

[@ScarySox]

@TonyRobertson6 put starmer and Tony and Mandy in prison Campbell as well.

[@alfreygreen]

Is anyone going to ask Lord Darzi for evidence or an audit trail for the commission of this report? 9 weeks??! Seriously, when did work on this report really start? The outcome of which is pointing to privatisation. Who paid for this report? PFI - has stragled our NHS, burdened it with debt. Again - when was this report commissioned? Evidence/audit trail; who paid for it?

[@Chris-wz5yd]

Con job by a con man.

[@blahblahblah2929]

reform = privatise

[@jaycee6996]

Reform or die is a nonsensical statement. If the NHS dies we have no health system. People fail to realise the scale of the NHS system. It is huge and complex and is not replaceable.

[@annenunney9907]

Well said

[@JosephClayton-bb6vp]

What a bad remark, if the NHS is broken its not beaten . If broke its beat . Repair by removing private services so the NHS can't be broken again . JC 18/9/24 .

[@williamcampbell9335]

I don’t think our MPs are very productive when they are too busy doing second jobs

[@simpaticaism]

Starmer actually moves his mouth as the US business puppet !

[@sidensvans67]

All Profits privatised all costs liabilities socialised .

[@Stephen.in.Virginia]

Starmer will help enable the rich to loot the public treasury with no prosecution or legal recourse, then punish the middle class, working class, and poor with austerity, rinse and repeat... The suits, designer glasses frames, and the dresses are necessary costumes for the stage production...

[@headgirlblues]

"Delivering profit through the denial of care" is a phrase that should be repeated often and across the scope of this government (as others). Labour under Starmer is just another facilitation agent in a long line of them - since Thatcher, of course. They literally make us sick.

[@headgirlblues]

PS Has anyone else here been told by their doctors to take Omeprazole long-term (despite widespread warnings)?

[@ScarySox]

Starmer 🤮 Streeting 🤮

[@sirgaymeerkat1994]

the NHS was the best ran healthcare system throughout the 60s and 70s it was cost effective and low waiting times! privatisation is the problem and it's always not the answer.

[@djonfonsteen6331]

The answer is to spend our taxes on public services, not creating a conflict then using that income on defence or clandestine operations abroad. This will stop future terrorism in its tracks too and make friends not enemies.

[@JosephClayton-bb6vp]

Correct, its privatisation that kills the NHS . JC/18/9/24 .

[@JosephClayton-bb6vp]

@@djonfonsteen6331 Correct . Spend taxes on public services . Dont give money from taxes to private companies, when the private company can get their money from the private customer . JC 18/9/24 .

[@annenunney9907]

@@sirgaymeerkat1994 Through the fifties to I completely agree with you

[@annenunney9907]

@@djonfonsteen6331 well said

[@davidwhitehouse2162]

Who is going to stop the drive to total privatisation? Politicians continue to complain about the amount of money that is spent on the NHS, even though it is questionable who actually gets it, but how are they going to spin a health system that is completely evident in America, because that is what the UK is heading towards. The amount of Americans that cannot even afford health care is what British greedy politicians are expecting us to simply accept, as well as limited care dependant on what money you can manage to give them. It is a fact that so many families in this country struggle to survive each month and many are in financial trouble even when both parents are in work. All this is totally ignored by Tories and Labour alike, with minimal objections from other parties. Our political system and it's accomplice media are steering the population to absolute ruin and non affordable health provision. Who will stop all this, as it seems that we will wake up one day to find we are in abject debt to an evil cadre of wealthy dominators, that can claim everything but will be at risk to a very angry population finally reacting too late.

[@emmagibson3837]

I don’t think we can stop it

[@FrancesSanchez-gw7lt]

and, MP,S-remain SILENT-WHERE ARE THE DEMONSTARTIONS?

[@annenunney9907]

Spot on

[@mikeharvey9811]

We are demonstrating in London for Gaza. We’ve been marching for the NHS for ten years, but everyone said they’ll never sell our NHS…well they have! Write to your MPs..in your thousands and your millions we all have a right to healthcare FREE because we’ve paid our taxes! Barb

[@robertdavidson8028]

@@annenunney9907 apart from the spelling of demonstrations, that is.

[@annenunney9907]

@@mikeharvey9811 and our national insurance well said

[@annenunney9907]

@@robertdavidson8028 my comment was Spot on nothing to do with anything else

[@PEPG2024]

Thank you for exposing this.

[@SheilaDerrick-i5d]

I am having my cataracts fixed. The optician suggested that I could have them done by my NHS local hospital but there is a 5 months waiting list, or Medicare which I believe is an American company which would carry it out in two months. Private ops can be done inside my local NHS hospital and in Medicare. The Medicare is a small unit of a few rooms and waiting areas which could easily be fitted into a NHS hospital or a small extention. I have spoken to other people in my area who had the same op and were recommended to go to Medicare. I was told the same surgeons are doing the same work on private patients and NHS patients in the local hospital and under Medicare. I can only conclude that the surgeons are being paid more for NHS patients in Medicare than in the local hospital. It is all a con and allowing American companies to undermine our NHS. The NHS local hospital deals with more difficult eye cases. The surgeon takes 5 minutes per patient to carry out the cataract repair and the patients are being filed in one after the other to have it done. There is a lot of repeated prep and paperwork done by loads of nurses who are floating around all over the place repeating what the orevious nurse did. The Surgeon checks the paperwork and looks at the back of the eye and if he is satisfied you are in the op room and out in 5 minutes. You do feel cared for with all the relaxed smiling nurses fussing over you and so it does feel like they are being efficient but how much is it costing? I am sure a lot more than if the Op was performed using exactly the same team of Surgeons and nurses in the NHS hospital. And what is the extra cost to pay for the shareholders and the pharmaceutical company who supply the drugs - one person came up to me and said be sure to use both bottles of the eye drops as the second eye drop will sting and she continued the NHS hospital only give the second eye drop. It is nice the first eye drop stops the second eye drop from stinging but is it adding far too much to the cost - this is only one small item but I think if anything it is the pharmaceutical supplies to our NHS hospitals and our GP surgeries that need investigated - I am sure we would be able to replace far more nurses, doctors and beds if we did not have to pay so much for the thieving American pharmaceutical companies.

[@John-t2v]

We are all living in a con mans paradise

[@lordcharfield4529]

Well said!

[@chickpstranded3069]

I feel that Starmer’s policies on public expenditure are diametrically opposite to the proletariat’s needs

[@JosephClayton-bb6vp]

Its not fair that the NHS contract private services who only operate for profit . All the money that goes into private services is not all used on the patient . 25% is profit that goes to the private directors . For every £400 going to private, the director gets £100 . For every £20,000 paid into private care for patient care£500 goes to the director to spend on overseas holidays, purchase of Italian gold and investments into the one third American companies that own businesses in the UK . All the private profit goes out of the country . On the other hand, if money is collected from VAT and income tax, the 20% profit made by private companies is used for patient care out of one pot of money . In other words, don't privatise the NHS . Give private companies push bikes to manufacture for profit, or solar cell panels or wooden handles for hand tools to make . Not to make NHS profit . JC 18/9/24 .

[@johnstanton8499]

He forgot to mention Private Finance Initiatives

[@TheHikuky]

HERE IS THE HEAD OF THE TRAITOR !!!

[@simpaticaism]

This scares me , not for me but for my grandchildren ! My friend in the US died last year from breast cancer . All she obsessed about after having her two sons was working enough to get full health coverage Insurance , all she spoke about during her failed cancer treatment was what her health insurance did or did not cover , She died with that anxiety in her life . That’s what Starmer is offering citizens in the UK selling off the NHS.

[@oneoflokis]

Well: that is precisely what Starmer and his puppetmasters always wanted, isn't it? (So of course it's a con.) 😏😏

[@FrancesSanchez-gw7lt]

when I started in 1989 in NHS-the nhs was workiNG well. So, Darzi is never going to mention the PRIVATE/PUBLIC FINANCE DESTRUCTION TOOL????

[@JosephClayton-bb6vp]

Its no good for the NHS, when public money is given to private companies . In other words your tax and VAT contribution becomes a private companies direct profit, on top of the profit the company can get from a customer . JC/9/24 .

[@JosephClayton-bb6vp]

The building of new houses in 2024 with Barrets the builder, Lloyds bank, and Angela Rayner labour government is a three way Private/ Public funded house project . The 25% profit made by Angela Rayner will not be returned to the public purse, but given to Barrett builders and Lloyds bank . The public purse is kept empty, even onto becoming bankrupt . No wonder, why people feel the pinch of loss every day . Capital companies and organisations rule UK persons lives . The third owned UK American businesses rule UK peoples lives . JC 18/9/24 .

[@mmcd256]

​@@JosephClayton-bb6vp Asset stripping the country.

[@JosephClayton-bb6vp]

Assets are taken out of the NHS by private companies and reloaned as a service back to the NHS with a mark up of 25% . JC 19/9/24 .

[@kaymathers7471]

They are going to privatise it. This has been planned for along time. Same as the dentists

[@Alden1957]

"People", says Stamer, "can't pay more"; very wealthy companies and individuals can (and should) pay more.

[@annenunney9907]

That bloody Talk TV are so rude if they had listen to Bob they may have learnt something

[@Dahabmermaid]

He did a small surgical procedure for me at St Mary’s through my work’s private health insurance and he came across as arrogant and with little bedside manners!

[@mmcd256]

REFORM /RESET.

[@FrancesSanchez-gw7lt]

MAYBE, YOU CAN ASK BOB TO DO A SERIES TO TEH PUBLIC ON HOW TO NATIONALISE THE NHS?

[@annenunney9907]

Well said

[@nickjanczak9665]

''Care in the community'' - where have I heard that one before? Oh yes, I remember, when Thatcher thought it was better to kick a whole bunch of people with serious mental health problems out of hospitals on to the streets to fend for themselves.

[@Nai-e7s]

This NHS guy is waffling

[@g4joe]

This "Labour" in name only party. Will not get another term. It may not get through this term.👎

[@user-cp7gh8zj6b]

And have who instead

[@g4joe]

@@user-cp7gh8zj6b Putin would be much better for us.😄

[@battybibliophile-Clare]

He means more privatisation and it doesnt work. He admires the US system, which is the worst healthcare system in the first world, with the worst outcomes.

[@jamesreilly1625]

"That's the standard technique of privatistion, defund, make sure things don't work, the people get angry, then you hand it over to private capital. Noam Chomsky. God Bless Him.

[@FrancesSanchez-gw7lt]

lord hatchet man darzi

[@charliemoore2551]

Of course "choice " is popular. Who is going to say that "choice" is a bad thing? But how do we choose? I suspect in most cases it would be a case of the physician being able to recommend HIS choice with a pitch of something like "You can wait 6 months to have your procedure in a tatty old NHS hospital with paint peeling off the walls or you can go to this shiny new private clinic (which I happen to own shares in) tomorrow."

[@g1fcg]

This guy nailed what I have been saying! You ever tried mentioning to a gp (if you can get to see one) about 'problems' with the 'healthcare' system? Their reaction - or lack of says it all!!

[@williammore558]

Do people realise the NHS is one of the largest employer in the world after the Indian Railways and Chinese PLA. For a country of 60m to have some 2m directly and indirectly employed that's incredible yet it's run to the ground. Given the scale of the monster it's been allowed to grow out of all proportions and more money thrown at it being the solution. We are talking about £165b a year and still rising. The political class has no idea how to deal with the monster😢

[@27july1954]

An independent report is a con trick? Reform or die seems a fitting way to describe the options available. Throwing more money at a broken system means a bigger broken system. That's not a solution. So it needs reforming. That's means infrastructural change. Not a 5 minute job. Why? Because the Tories have mangled it infrastructurally. In the short term this will inevitably mean more outsourcing to improve delivery such as getting waiting times down. No other way. At the same time as NHS resources are built up again which will take years and decades, and a lot more money before the Private Sector can be weaned out. Serious amounts of money. How Labour handle this is going to be one the biggest deals of their governance.

[@TREVORALLMAN]

Resurrecting Thatcher's "care in the community" slogan should strike fear into anyone who stops to ponder what "care in the community" has meant for people with mental health issues. It has basically meant people are in the community and left to their own devices, with burden of care put onto the neighbours at zero cost to the State.

[@stevedowsett6435]

Darzi also omits to mention that Consultants of all sorts use NHS facilities and staff to do private work.

[@Alden1957]

IT cannot wipe peoples bottoms.

[@lat1419]

Sounds like one he made earlier - true Blue Peter Style.

[@alexritchie4586]

Exactly what Health Secretary de facto Alan Millburn wanted.

[@LexCameron]

Starmer Quote: "Working people can't afford more". Starmer's a comprehensive liar. He is saying "The Rich can't afford more" aka "won't pay their fair share". National Health is BY FAR the most cost effective healthcare, half the cost of US Private healthcare. So Britain CAN'T AFFORD to move to private healthcare for an infinite amount of reasons, including that a shift to Private will destroy British culture, and you have to look at how 1/ Employers, 2/ Insurance Companies and 3/ Healthcare interact, and you find yourself being locked into employers via terminology you'll start to hear more about, the "Pre-existing Condition", which is used to deny you care. The US Private Health system was created for Racism, in the 60s they didn't want to cover the Blacks etc. It was billed as the best care for everyone's money, knowing that Blacks can't afford it, keeping the hospitals full of WHITE patients. In Britain, while it will still be racism based, it'll show up as "the poor" ending up with no care.

[@kubhlaikhan2015]

The way to fix the NHS is to give the money to the people at the bottom instead of the top and we can do that by making every transfer of cash dependent upon signing off by the service user. You don't pay a plumber or repair man in advance if you want good service so why the hell let the NHS run you through hoops, deliver nothing and still get paid?!

[@TessTearoe-zp5xv]

Wow, Starmer biggest sellout in British history. There goes the NHS.

[@joannafraser1481]

Best not to need NhS, take care of yourself, eat well.

[@haomingong]

Not a response to a crisis, but the continuation of longstanding Labour Right privatization plans

[@TREVORALLMAN]

Might be an idea to bring back Convalescent Homes, which enabled what could be referred to as a "soft-release" from hospital, as the patient is still being cared for, but in a less intense manner, before going back home.

[@fredfredrickson5436]

That psyche hacking clap at the beginning of Darzi's video, unbelievable. There are no words that can express my visceral anger towards these charlatans.

[@FrancesPrice-c7e]

Make all foreigners pay for their healthcare then and stop being a free for all, the money can go back into the NHS. NHS is for the British no one else. Thats the reason for long waiting lists.

[@patguilfoyle9720]

usual playbook, create a crisis then when everyone is scared and confused offer privatization as a way out. He does not deserve mercy.

[@FrancesPrice-c7e]

The NHS stays its for the people of Britain always has and always will be. Stop outsiders using it and make them pay. Its not a free for all

[@g1fcg]

gp's are all in on it!

[@notadoctora7956]

Thank

[@g1fcg]

Maybe with all this 'AI' they could have 'pop up doc bots'!!!

[@DanOConnell-g1o]

Krispers old man, in case it's intentional, your head, in front of your background logo, makes it look like F---OFF 😂 👍

[@SohelRana4-m5c]

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[@simpaticaism]

Who is the man posing as a worker in the NHS ? Please find out who he is and what accent he is speaking in !

[@SheilaDerrick-i5d]

When you increase tge polulation by millions per year the NHS, housing and schools are bound to have problems.

[@JH-lf4ql]

It’s time for an insurance based system. Some might be concerned with this idea but not everything has to be based on the American model, there are many other countries for whom this works pretty well. The NHS is finished.

[@user-rh4pf2jx6t]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@robinfoster7597]

No it is not, jog on traitor.

[@jaycee6996]

There is not a single insurance based system that is not either more expensive or less effective or both.

[@TaraSykes3]

We have that, it's called NI contributions which was supposed to cover our NHS cover and our pensions we have been robbed of. They mug us on a daily basis and we allow it.

[@djonfonsteen6331]

Lets stop creating conflict, funding those conflicts while closing hospitals, losing bed spaces.. all while increasing the population. The mathematics don't agree. I was a failure at school, but I CAN see a better way than this orchestrated madness.