Novel Technologies to Extract Minerals and Metals from Brines of Seawater Desalination Plants

[@tomkelly8827]

Certainly this is an excellent possible mineral source, I would love to see further development in this field

[@esci]

We are making sure to keep you updated on Twitter, Linkedin and on the Homepage! sea4value.eu/

[@confederatetearsaredelicious]

I very much hope for this project's success

[@camputee1]

I love this idea and was hoping to learn more about the exact methods or chemistry of removing metals from salt.

[@mohamadlukman2024]

Pgm and all rich minerals salt moulten extract....di in besttakin😁😍🤩❤

[@DavidElzeitsinfill]

One thing we need to do is move water from the ocean back inland to places we need it and if we can do that while generating clean energy we have a chance to mitigate climate change and still have a prosperous future. It is really, really hard but it is not impossible. The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution. Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions.

[@SurvivingAI101]

bro we could do it but the typical guy is to busy on tick toc or facebook or playing game or trying to put food on they plate to care to change they life style and take care of the planets we are doom unless we have a serious war or alien invasion that stop humans from being humans

[@ihaka439]

Thank you Nana for the story time

[@travelingartistchannel4503]

We need this for Cali! Would help with our over consumption problems also it is important to lessen the burden we are on Las Vegas so that Nevada residents can benefit more from Lake Mead

[@NSUScooter]

This project needs to come to California. California is facing a serious drought problem. If this concept can be used to capture the brine and extract minerals such as Sodium or Lithium and make EV batteries from it that would be tremendously beneficial.

[@Bernardus_McJamesicus]

Why discharge the brine? That's an isolated concentrate of valuable materials that we're just dumping away which means we have to pay to desalinate it again.

[@EASYTIGER10]

The video says that the amount of brine returned to the ocean is reduced. To do that you'd have to extract and use vast amounts of salt. What is this salt used for?

[@jeffbenton6183]

Same thing sea salt is used for today.

[@calexico66]

There is one issue, the amount of energy required. Even if extracted volume of minerals is economically viable there needs to be plenty of cheap energy to make this to work.

[@mitjagger]

....uhmmm... at the end business is on product potable water. The mineral production could be a balanced production plus inside this procces.

[@DavidElzeitsinfill]

One thing we need to do is move water from the ocean back inland to places we need it and if we can do that while generating clean energy we have a chance to mitigate climate change and still have a prosperous future. It is really, really hard but it is not impossible. The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution. Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions. A better future is possible

[@DavidElzeitsinfill]

@James Cheddar I have the thought that mister arrays on large windmills that are often place on top of mountain ridge lines could help move water inland and help keep large areas of forest from drying out to the tinder box state that many are in today. What were you thinking of James?

[@hashim64]

small thorium nuclear reactor create huge electric power for hundred year

[@mohamadlukman2024]

@jamescheddar4896 wow..yes bismillah i do itrich rare earth minerals and pgm

[@karlswanson95]

I am not an engineer but here is an idea, probably not at all practical. My understanding is that supercritical water cannot hold salts, they drop out. Unfortunately it requires high pressure and temperatures. Temperature: The temperature must be above the critical temperature of water, which is approximately 374 degrees Celsius (705 degrees Fahrenheit). Pressure: The pressure must be above the critical pressure of water, which is about 22.1 megapascals (3200 psi or 218 atmospheres). Process would need to go approximately 2,180 meters (about 7,152 feet) below the surface of the ocean to achieve the pressure necessary. Heat can be generated using electricity in a confined area, and by utilizing the rising column of fresh hot water in a pipe, it might be possible to power the process. There is a possibility of generating excess power, although this would depend on the efficiency of the energy conversion process. If enough electricity can be generated to sustain the operation, and if the water is sufficiently desalinated, then the process could be considered viable. However, this approach would likely be limited to locations adjacent to very deep water due to the need for significant pressure, which is a prerequisite for achieving supercritical conditions. I understand that Sydney Australia has water that is deep enough within 45 miles and they currently use desalination for a good percentage of their drinking water.

[@keithkishishita5783]

Why not also produce sea salt as well? I know the Japanese prize sea salt in their cooking. This could be accomplished the old fashioned way by spreading brine onto huge spreading grounds (sun-powered).

[@momchilandonov]

Exactly my thoughts when I read that Brine is a by-product of desalination plants. Given that logically it's easy to extract the salt from the water via vaporizing it I don't understand why they don't do it. It would probably save from costs. It could be related to it needing lots of surface area to evaporate (the plants cannot provide enough given the huge amount of water passing per hour) and also the heavy weight and maybe low prices of sea salt in the areas where desalination is performed making it cost inefficient.

[@maurowrf]

@@momchilandonov I think that´s beacuse usually salt is obtained from existent big deposites that are mined, this should be faster, more economic and in a bigger scale that waiting for water to evaporate.

[@confederatetearsaredelicious]

Salt is incredibly cheap. Most of the price you pay for table salt is for the packaging and transportation

[@mickgyver1068]

Use the Gold extracted from the waste brine to pay the electric bill for running the high pressure desalination pumps. Pretty cool beans.

[@AnandDharwar]

Most of the dissolved minerals can be precipitated as sludge by mixing Potassium to the brine. The supernatant water will be very soft and can be directly used for farming. The sludge can be sundried and then separated into various metals by suitable means.

[@fakenoobyup5492]

Very impressive indeed..There are very bright minds out there hey !

[@esci]

Thank you very much, i will forward this compliment to the bright minds in the project!

[@baderopale1238]

Why we don't use the thermosolar energy to desalination the seawater w need less energy and get more brine

[@thehypnoserpent4255]

"So This Wizard Transmutes Water And Salt Into Gold And Gems And Delicious Waters. I Should Probably Create A Wizard Dictionary Or Somthing" -Destrova

[@aristidisdragonalopez8890]

So what's your solution?

[@thehypnoserpent4255]

@@aristidisdragonalopez8890 "Find Someone Who Has Part Of The Skills To Make One." -Destrova

[@mohamadlukman2024]

Alhamdulillah i do it too .AU and etc rare earth minerals

[@fritzeder1847]

Working on it in Egypt

[@istoppedcaring6209]

brine is allready being used for getting minerals, though until now it was always from saltmines, thusfar it hasn't been metals though, and i doubt that it is viable for metal production

[@shitheadjohnson2797]

comon u have to care some more or its the end of ya!!!!

[@Gromic2k]

The fact that desalination plants shouldn't exist, and are about to be replaced by the new "solar domes" that don't produce any brine at all, makes it a bit... useless?

[@esci]

Thanks for your concerns, but keep in mind that there are approximately 16,000 operational desalination plants, located across 177 countries right now. We are really positive about having a great impact with this project.

[@chrisfellows1274]

The 'solar domes' as publicised do produce brine, and are very inefficient even compared to existing technologies.

[@titoizdaman3]

They still produce brine, maybe not as much.

[@donikajorgo5612]

With agreements?

[@esci]

Dear Donika Jorgo*, what do you mean by with agreements?

[@donikajorgo5612]

@@esci ah. You are elite I suppose.. That's why you don't needed agreement for your business..

[@esci]

​@@donikajorgo5612 Oh, we do. A lot actually. But we dont understand what you are implying here.

[@donikajorgo5612]

@@esci what's your point of finding out?

[@anthonymazar3178]

That's not how you do it. A laymen can now be a multi millionaire if he has the exact very low cost extraction process knowledge...

[@mohamadlukman2024]

Pgm and all rich minerals salt moulten extract....di in besttakin