Novice riders get yelled at for bad passing at Barber Motorsports Park 8/13/23 STT Novice Session 3

My first time back to Barber Motorsports Park after wrecking like a dumbass back in June. Didn't record the first two sessions since we were just riding around in groups. Some hotheaded wannabes were passing in very close proximity the session before (we weren't even allowed to pass yet) so we got reprimanded :D We do two laps in this one before Point-to-Pass allows us to ride solo. In classic novice fashion, one rebel scum (8:00) couldn't help himself.
- 3:28 The dude we were all looking at came in the Pit Out... not something you see every day. Advanced rider too haha
2008 Honda CBR600RR
Dynojet PCV with custom fuel map and spark correction
Quickshifter w/ gear dependent kill times
Toce Exhaust w/ cat delete
15/42 sprocket configuration (-1 front from stock). Speedo was corrected.
Filmed using an Insta360 X3
Onboard telemetry was compiled using Telemetry Overlay and Race Render

[@timdavis6088]

Alix, Just found your channel. I appreciate the ride along. It's been awhile since I've been to Barbers so it was nice to get a few laps in with you. It's also the first time that I've heard a Toce in the upper RPM's on the 600RR. I believe that's what you have is a Toce anyways. It sounds great. A little like a Ducati with that lower tone rumble to it. I still sport a Leo Vince on my '04 600RR so it sounds like an F1 car. 🤩 Sucks being trapped in Novice but I get it. Slots fill fast @ Barbers. I see you just finished an Advanced class so I'm off to check out that one. You certainly don't belong in Novice.....

[@alixvandurand]

Thank you kindly, although I'm not sure I belong in Advanced to be fair xD I was a little over my head as there were some MA racers that day practicing. And yes, it is a Toce. I love the lower tones it has as well as when you get up in the rpm's it starts sounding like some serious old F1 type shit which I love so I know what you mean with that LeoVince. 600RRs sound good no matter what you put on them.

[@8180634]

What did you use for camera and telemetry? Very cool view. Also wow what a mix of riders, I can see why people were getting antsy in the back, it was like a funeral procession in front. I'm surprised they didn't line up by how fast guys wanted to go.

[@alixvandurand]

You're tellin me! It was painfully slow riding in the groups. As for your question, I use an Insta360 X3 which I reframe into a 2K video. My telemetry is recorded from multiple sources but compiled using Telemetry Overlay then RaceRender 3. It's a bit of a complicated process but I may do a tutorial vid showing how it's all done.

[@danchristiani]

Instructions unclear, did a 10inch pass

[@alixvandurand]

Haha for real dude. It was almost as bad as B group the first session or two. Which was weird because we were riding in groups we weren't even supposed to pass in the first place.

[@danchristiani]

No passing? So everyone is limited to the slowest rider 💀

[@alixvandurand]

@@danchristiani there are seven groups based on experience which are all led by instructors. Certain groups go faster than others and will pass as a group but there's no individual passing allowed within groups until point to pass is introduced halfway through the third session. It's why I didn't record the first two sessions. Didn't think anything crazy would happen.

[@eddydruppel3943]

Dude , that heart rate CAN NOT BE correct ! 😳😳😳😳

[@alixvandurand]

I compared it to a smart watch which that was all over the place (given all the movement the watches have a hard time getting a good reading). The chest strap monitor I wear works like an EKG in that it measures the electrical activity through diodes on either side so they are supposedly the most accurate. Only other test I did was I had a BPM tap app and I used that at the same time, the readings were pretty good (+/- 1-3 bpm) from what I could tell.

[@dantealigieri2268]

I mean to be right. I have around 204 bmp on go-karts.

[@timdavis6088]

You wouldn't question that bpm if you'd ever ridden a track day at Barbers. This is why it's so important to concentrate on relaxing. The more you can lower your HR the more energy you'll have at the end of the day. Because no matter what you'll be smoked! 😅

[@eddydruppel3943]

@@timdavis6088 been riding on tracks since i was 21y i’m 60y old now , my max bpm was 205 ( running , sprint) now it is 189 ( max on MTB and swimming) , on track I do not exceed 160 . Maybe I’m not experienced enough 😏😏

[@timdavis6088]

@@eddydruppel3943 👍👍Well there you go! You're just in better shape then me for sure. MTB AND swimming?! You're just spoiled from being in shape. How in the world can you go through 2, 3, 4, and into Charlotte's Web with anything under 180 bpm?! Lol....

[@dsc194]

Big Ed laying down the law. I got my ass chewed a few times when I was in novice, even been black flagged, intermediate is much better, usually no yelling.

[@alixvandurand]

My first day I was hit with like 3 black flags. Like damn, let me ride 😂 intermediate is chaos in the mornings and because a few Advanced guys ride in that group all the rules typically go out the window

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

I’m not getting “yelled at” by anyone in any circumstance.

[@smithshotracing6013]

good vid.... im digging the telemetry, can you fully explain what you used to do it?

[@alixvandurand]

I can maybe do a video in the future that explains how I do it. But in a nutshell, GPS/gyro is recorded by the X3 using a GPS remote. I record a secondary audio stream using my phone which I keep in an internal pocket of my jacket so there's virtually no wind noise and gives a lower frequency range so I blend the two to have better audio since the X3 can sometimes get overwhelmed by wind noise. The heart rate is recorded using a chest monitor that connects via bluetooth to my phone which also records gps/gyro so I have a second stream of that data if the X3's doesn't work. I import the video in the Insta360 software and do a manual Reframe of the whole recording to convert it from 360 video to a 2K (youtube and most socials are not yet caught up with 360 tech so it looks like crap, better to just make it a normal video). Then I import to Telemetry Overlay and input all data from those I mentioned into gauges I've created and positioned to my liking. After that, I use RaceRender 3 which reads the CSV telemetry files from my Power Commander V (RPM, throttle pos, speed, gear) which I use a POD-300 from Dynojet to record all that stuff. The main headache is syncing everything to the video which can easily take an hour or two. But ultimately, most of it is just a template I made and I just drag and drop all the data into it each time.

[@smithshotracing6013]

@@alixvandurand thats a lot, but very informative.. but yes, a video explaining the hardware and software would be greatly appreciated.. just subbed..

[@alixvandurand]

@@smithshotracing6013 I started work on showing how it's all done but will take a while as I'm between two track days and will have a ton of footage to sift through. It's a little different now how I put it all together plus I'm editing two cameras but mostly it's the same.

[@timdavis6088]

BTW, how do you get that sweet paddock pit pad?

[@alixvandurand]

I ride to the track so it's just me, my bike and a backpack lol One of my first times out to Barber I was out in the sun by myself and one of the directors of the event just came up and said "why don't you put your stuff under the stairs over there?" Now it's just sort of become my spot since no one ever goes there haha

[@timdavis6088]

@@alixvandurand Lol...The only time being out on the pavement was a blessing was on one cold Oct morning when I had to scrape the frost off the seat @ 7am.

[@alixvandurand]

@@timdavis6088 Oh jesus, was that in November or something??

[@timdavis6088]

@@alixvandurand October...lol... It did make for a nice day of riding though.

[@javiercarrion6843]

Its always one person like chill dude damn lol..

[@alixvandurand]

Haha ikr. Always one guy who thinks he's Marc Marquez 🤣

[@MattAyhan]

Is the heart rate monitor accurate? Those are super high numbers.

[@alixvandurand]

I use a chest monitor which measures the electric pulse of the heart (like an ECG), they're supposedly the most accurate for physical activity unlike a smart watch which can be all over the place if you move around a lot. And yeah, they're definitely high numbers for my age. I just turned 33. I'm afraid to ask a cardiologist if I'm good or not 🤣

[@WindTherapyToday]

​@@alixvandurand get seen bro... Be proactive with your heart health so we can see more great footage from you in the future!!

[@alixvandurand]

@@WindTherapyToday xD My money is on it's just reading high cause I honestly feel great and never had heart issues before. I'm going to look into getting a different monitor to see if the numbers are different.

[@the_rush_to_nothing]

Too much riding and not enough yelling. Great video either way.

[@alixvandurand]

As short as it was, when he dropped his cane I knew he meant business.

[@the._.bohemian3096]

Now we know why his nickname is "ogre".

[@Scott-mk7tz]

Well yeah, I tend to agree with the guy although 10' seems excessive. People, particularly first timers, sign up for the beginner group for a reason and that is so they wont get spooked by other riders. People should be able to pass on the straight and allow enough room for others.

[@alixvandurand]

@@Scott-mk7tz the rule is actually 6', which would be fine but in the first two sessions people were definitely passing with less than 2 ft of space when they weren't even supposed to be passing in the first place 🤣

[@mkanalytics1355]

Nice riding! Was surprised when you passed few riders in a long turn. Stt usually allows passes only on straights but maybe barber is different idk. Your hr is insane if that's accurate! I do track my hr too and at first track days I maxed out at around 175. Now I have about 7days in total and way) my hr is way lower. Rarely hitting 160... Cool set up though! See you in joliet autobahn cc next year!

[@alixvandurand]

STT allows passing in Novice but only on outside and you have to give 6ft distance on all sides which doesn't leave a lot of opportunities unless you are on a straight. Intermediate is the same except you can pass on the inside too. Advanced there are no restrictions. And I'm not sure what you mean by hr? The bike I'm on is a CBR600RR so it's only capable of maybe 160 stock. I've swapped the front sprocket -1 tooth so it tops out around 150 now but it gets there really fast haha

[@mkanalytics1355]

@@alixvandurand I rode with STT a few times at Joliet Autobahn county club that's close to Chicago and passes were only allowed on straights which was quite frustrating after a while. I guess the rules are a bit different for Barber. By HR I meant your Heart Rate reading. That looked a bit high to me. Are you using a chest strap to capture that?

[@alixvandurand]

@@mkanalytics1355 hahaha I'm such an idiot, idk why I thought an HR was a motorcycle. Yeah I love watching track day vids and was always curious to see what the rider's heart rate was cause I remember my first track day it was beating out of my chest haha it's insane I'm maxing out damn near 200bpm! Average I'm around 180. The adrenaline is nuts but also I'm not used to it, which is probably why yours is lower now. And yeah I can imagine how frustrating that must have been to only be able to pass on straights. I'm over hear complaining about the 6ft xD

[@alixvandurand]

@@mkanalytics1355 yes, I'm using a chest strap because I read they're supposed to be more accurate. I tried doing a smart watch but it was all over the place, apparently you have to be sitting fairly still for them to be accurate which obviously isn't ideal on the track.

[@mkanalytics1355]

​@@alixvandurandman you must be in your mid 20s or extremely fit. I can barely hit 185 if I run flat out for a mile and I am 35! 😂 Would really love to learn how you compile all the data and plot it into your videos. I saw you had another comment with some info but would really appreciate an in depth video if you can. Thanks!

[@tonylawson9319]

Looks like a casual sunday ride.

[@alixvandurand]

Oh very much so. I honestly hated riding in groups because of it. Hey, it's for safety cause you're novice. But that's not why we go to tracks is it. 🤣

[@dillonbooker7222]

Is a novice rider and gets yelled at for doing novice rider things.

[@mb4lunch]

Wanna pass while trading paint? Get racing license. But still, don't be a bonehead. LoL

[@alixvandurand]

I cannot wait to be bumped to Advanced so I can do just that haha Although, in intermediate there are a fair few riders that dgaf about the rules. Probably because they are advanced that went a class down that day cause they were sold out. There's always a few like that.