Now THIS is bang for your buck! - Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro

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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:27 Unboxing
5:10 Assembly
12:03 Filament
13:46 Automatic Cycle
16:30 Let's Get Printing
17:33 DONE!
19:34 Klipper
24:10 Print # 2
26:03 Outro

[@ZackMuffinMan]

LongCircuit

[@autofocusphotos]

We had the exact same idea for a comment lmao

[@sillyWillieBilly]

This one actually though was informative and covered everything. I didn't mind this one at all.

[@christophercannon769]

That's what she said

[@JackyAnimations]

Lol

[@Ripinda1911]

Shortn‘tCircuit

[@Metal_Maxine]

"I hope it's not [something] lined - that way you'd die of neurotoxin poisoning" - Dan, as ever the cheerful member of the LMG team. The first time I saw him, he recommended doing electrical repairs standing on a metal chair because "if you get it wrong, they can't make you do it again"

[@SUPER_ZOMBIE]

LMAO I remember this! I don't remember what video it was from though

[@bubbledoubletrouble]

PTFE, aka Teflon. When heated to very high temperatures the fumes can be toxic.

[@BAoxymoron]

Dan, the Lumalee of LMG

[@kingdraconias]

@@SUPER_ZOMBIE It was the one where he was helping Linus setup his new living room's VR setup. And what he said was something more like "If you mess up, you don't have to go into work tomorrow."

[@MowMdown]

@@bubbledoubletrouble FYI - If you, or anyone reading this, ever uses the "self-cleaning" mode on your oven, you need to open all the windows, remove any persons and pets until the cleaning is complete because it does burn the PTFE lining off.

[@user-dj2zy2wb8z]

Can Dan review a handful of printers and give us his suggestions at each price point?

[@evilgremlin]

Well if you want most incompetent reviews... And he admits complete incompetency by "my home printer runs at 30mm/s"

[@imapotato5927]

@@evilgremlin yeah and when he said the heat sink fan was for part cooling

[@blacknovella]

as a hardcore resin and fdm enthusiast. Dan knows his stuff I want dan doing more of these.. he knows what he is talking about.

[@MonkeyWithAKnife]

Or MandicReally, Modbot, CNCkitchen, 3DNero, 3DPrintingNerd or one of the many other channels focused on 3d printing.

[@blacknovella]

@@MonkeyWithAKnife i too am in many of their communities :)

[@sstalder5]

Can Dan just have his own LMG maker channel at this point? He's got so much knowledge to share and I feel like it'd be an instant gold play button to add to the collection.

[@shanematthews1985]

Linus Maker Tips, where we make just the tip

[@wobblysauce]

Dan needs to re master the Christmas music

[@Cobyc5150]

I can hear it now, " welcome back to the shop to another episode with maker Dan. Today we will be.....

[@BenCos2018]

Facts I'd watch his channel for sure

[@Kyle496]

​@@BenCos2018 I'll not be making anything but for whatever reason I'll probably watch everything he's showing off.

[@OrDuckVet]

I like to picture Dan reviewing random things in his home. “Well, this fork is a bit small, but I mean, well, it’s fine.” 😂

[@yohojones]

I could listen to Dan review anything. So calming. Great episode.

[@ssl3546]

I like how Dan has basically taken over Anthony's (RIP) function at LTT. Dan started as this unpleasant sarcastic guy but he's mellowed out at alot.

[@Internetianer]

@@ssl3546 rip? o.o

[@JWF111]

@@InternetianerAnthony is a lady now I think, so no more Anthony

[@verakoo6187]

Not a review

[@Internetianer]

@@JWF111 that doesn't really change who they are as a person though

[@my_alibi]

For $300 that is an outstanding value.

[@privacyvalued4134]

Yup. This is the first PLA 3D printer I've seen that actually makes sense and looks pretty solidly engineered. It's a shame it's just a PLA printer. I'd love to see a desktop metal sintering 3D printer at $300. Currently, metal sintering printers run about $12,000 on the cheap end and easily push $100,000.

[@Leesboringlife]

I just looked it up and was like WOW!!

[@hazonku]

@@privacyvalued4134 True. I remain hopeful laser sintering printers will find their way down to affordable prices one day like FDM & resin did. As stupid and wannable Apple as Formlabs are I will give them credit for making the first effort in making at least nylon sintering printers that are more in the small business/rich hobbyist price range.

[@edenassos]

@@privacyvalued4134 Choosing beggars.

[@sxmtaekwon-do7685]

metal sintered for $300? dude.... are you even serious. LOL @@privacyvalued4134

[@sturdybutter]

Now this is a 25 minute shortcircuit I can actually get behind!

[@s4nari]

Thanks to Dan for hosting today's video.

[@Shynd]

The tiny fan in the hotend is for cooling the heatsink, the two fans on the side are layer cooling fans.

[@tjCooper88]

Came here to say this. Why would you ever have two fans blowing at each other for the heatsink cooling 🤦🏻

[@vPeteWalker]

I love these videos where someone absoutely knows their shit with a particular product. I don't know jack shit about 3D printing, but I'm sold on this product based on Dan's assessment, and I understand why this is great. Very well done.

[@Brandon-jf9cv]

He actually knows very little. He called the heat sink fan the part cooling fan and he says his printer at home can only do 30 mm a second if you’d like to see 3d Print reviews there’s a lot better you can do not saying his is bad there’s just gaps in his knowledge.

[@mads6103]

​@@Brandon-jf9cvAgreed, could be way worse though

[@juts89]

It's a sponsored overview, absolutely do your own research

[@tonim.9460]

​@@monki_sudoafter two weeks? wtf you're lubing it with? water?

[@BeefIngot]

ugh. Don't be tricked my dude. He is absolutely not an expert by any means. Many many inaccuracies and misses. Not his fault, but don't take this as the be all end all source. Heck, don't even take the recommendation

[@GeneralRasp]

I love when Dan gets to review 3D printers. Always enjoyable and informative. I would love to see him do a general trouble shooting video for FDM printers.

[@ricknaam5658]

shortcircuit doesnt do reviews, this is an initial impression

[@sven2701]

Agreed. First time I've watched one of his videos, super informative. Subbed

[@peeonthe3rdrail414]

Pshht everyone knows the best way to do it is to buy an ender 3 for $250-$300 and put $400 worth of upgrades into it.

[@MrAlucardDante]

That’s exactly what I did 😂. Although I payed 120€ for my ender3, and only spent 250€ for upgrades (raspberry for klipper, 32bit mainboard, 3dtouch, linear rails, direct drive and dual z)

[@ReaperUnreal]

I was fully expecting this to be $600+, seeing it at $300 makes me seriously consider it.

[@TheTonie4]

@@monki_sudo This isn't meant to be a real review in the first place, these are just overviews of the products essentially, especially with this people a sponsored one.

[@talharoxen]

@@tombeardy4833 Is that good?

[@Digitness]

@@talharoxenit’s like a cult. Bambu lab has almost gained a following like apple. Apparently they are good

[@99956563232]

Just bought one. Excited to see what it does.

[@koybuscho5880]

Mine just got here 4 days ago. It’s a fantastic printer. Done some complex prints like castles and stuff at full speed (250mm/s) and it KILLED IT. Amazing value!

[@BeefIngot]

You almost certainly did not. It's a common beginner mistake and I'm not the least bit judgey, but you should know at any usual layer height the hot end wouldn't be able to keep up, and the printer would never actually be able to hit top speed unless you cranked the accelerations so high that the print came out looking awful other than literal straight diagonal lines across the whole bed.

[@droniedj557]

But the Bambu lab X1 does a great job? It isn't that unbelieveable.@@BeefIngot

[@xvr6036]

The best part of WAN Show, and now, the best part of ShortCircuit 👌

[@nicksterspad]

Great video! I love how it feels like the editors are allowed to try to express their personality with funny clips but their editing doesn't distract from the content.

[@hyun-shik7327]

I just got this for Christmas thanks to your recommendation. I made my first of many things.

[@dylanstorts4327]

I want Dan to get more Short Circuit content to the market. He is thorough and funny and I love it!!

[@rux_ton]

This was my first short circuit video, never really wanted to venture here and boy was this a BANGER video, kinda swayed me towards this as a secondary printer. Ive been teetering between this and bambu labs p1p (look i want the companion cube ok)

[@Anyobservation]

Dan is one of the best, if not the best host at LMG. Always lots of humor and knowledge while casually being well spoken and easy to follow.

[@beardedgaming3741]

can you please make a how-to for setup? ensuring things are square, that motors are stepping correctly, that beds are level, that hotends are flowing properly... from square 1

[@CanuckCreator]

`We run it in our creator warehouse for our little Vorons` How is this the first time ive heard of LTT running vorons? lol

[@takuya2431]

The best comes last i guess :hehe:

[@Dramaican88]

It is very nice to see and quite obvious that Dan's knowledge around 3D printing has improved and grown a lot and in a relatively short time! Also really nice to hear that the engineers at LMG are using Vorons. This great as a "first printer with Klipper" option for newbies and I hope printers with stock Klipper that are this affordable reach "ender 3 status", especially since they seem to have a better out of the box user experience. It used to be that consumers would buy an ender 3 and then in the first 5 minutes they started ordering upgrades and printing modifications to make the printer actually print well. I am happy that those days are gone and now you buy a 300$ printer and you can actually have some nice prints without any need for modifications or fixing issues.

[@DanielSalley3D]

FInally got my 4 pro. I was as concerned at home the head would move itself to death but the speed the bed moves really is amazing, it'll prevent the head unit burning out the rails ! Great printer, even compared to the Bambu its amazing for the money!

[@Wink_FingerGun]

Waiting for mine to get here. So thankful you guys did a review. Thank you.

[@elone3997]

Nice review Dan..I have literally no experience of 3d printers so to me they look like pure voodoo..the speed that thing was moving was crazy!

[@blackeyespecialist88]

Bought this for my wife for Xmas. I was having second thoughts about this printer after I bought it,but your video made me feel much better. I was actually able to understand what you’re talking about. BRAVO man

[@philipwolper1339]

Just got this for 150€ on eBay as my first printer. Super hyped to start printing!!

[@jameslewis2635]

Nice to see someone like Dan doing a review like this. He comes off as someone who knows his stuff, at least where it comes to 3D printers. It also makes a difference that he is throwing things on the floor rather than randomly dropping everything he touches.

[@mirkinzaathnar3167]

"that won't break your bank!" Sir, you have not seen my bank account

[@marcusansell9713]

Really enjoyed the full in depth video great informative content 👍

[@user-zw3mg1so7o]

Love me some 3d printer reviews! Would be cool to see some reviews of resin printers!

[@flebnard]

Saturns look pretty neat with what can be done with resin

[@user-zw3mg1so7o]

@@flebnard I do have a Saturn 2 and its a great machine, can recomend! But I am looking to switch to anycubics latest one with autoleveling, since you still need to relevel the build plate from time to time on S2. The ball joint just isnt perfect

[@timsoft3]

i bought one of these as a first 3dprinter based on the review, and some yt vids showing that it wasn't impossible to do 3d cad. Apart from a slight challange with the initial manual levelling, it's been great; easy enough to setup, and use. the network acess is only while printing, which is worth mentioning. the money off discount is available directly. Its taken a little while playing around with settings to get precise holes and first layer for latest version of cura, but it seems to be quite capable. It can handle abs and nylon as well as the usual pla.

[@SmallDisturbedChild]

I'd love to see Dan do a review of your Voron setups and any mods you might have done, though that being said there is a lot do dive in to with vorons. I have a 350mm Voron 2.4r2 and love it.

[@spivzit8754]

Incredible first impression video you did great. Elegoo as a brand has included a lot of the same features and kit to their last couple of generations of Cartesian printer and that's why i tend to recommend them to new users. Other brands you have to upgrade to get the same features when elegoo just realized that this is what people like. The upgrades on this printer is wild with the speed and rails and I'm quite intrigued. Pla+ had been my go-to material for many years since it's the easiest to print with. It's consistent. It's tough and rigid and I can hold some very tight tolerances when prototyping and making fixtures for the shops I work in. 10/10 all machinists and engineers get in to 3d printing as an additional tool in your belt.

[@clementfrance2905]

Ordered ! You sold me at "EVERY beginner should have this printer". I've been doing CAD for years and hesitated to take the next step and get myself a nice printer. Now it is done. Can't wait to toy with it, thanks for the review !

[@Konigstiger]

I've got a Neptune 3 downstairs chugging away right now, and this is looking like a hell of an upgrade.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

Toss in a CHT nozzle and that printer looks like it might be a winner. Its really nice to see cheap printers coming to market with klipper installed so we can print fast. There hadn't been any major advancements in FMD machine in the past 4 years aside from volcano style hotends. Like there have been a few smaller things but now with klipper, Volcano, and CHT nozzles we can actually print really fast. Eventually my sidewinder x1 will die and the neptune 4 pro might be my next printer

[@CuttinInIdaho]

The little fan by the nozzle is to keep the heating block from over heating and to keep temperatures within range. The one on the left and one on the right side are for layer cooling with the big blower accompanying those.

[@antigravityinmotion]

great job Dan🎉 I really like your printer videos 👍 the video so packed full with interesting details, so I don't care its not "short" - it could 2h and would watch it completely🫶 I vote for more Dan videos❤

[@RahulJC]

I pre ordered this.. already have the Neptune 3, absolutely love it. Looking forward to the 4pro.

[@arthurmint]

this is the best shortcircuit i have ever watch. great video dan :)

[@technewb8241]

Ordering it. Thank you, Dan

[@MrAlucardDante]

Octoprint also has a Bed Mesh Visualizer plugin. But it’s nice that it’s integrated into fluidd

[@user-hd8gn1uj7e]

i love that dan dailies a tank

[@tswan137]

Wow. I’m actually sold. I’ve been waiting to bite the bullet on my first 3D Printer. This doesn’t look like a cheap little toy and I can learn a ton while having actual functional software and features.

[@DoRC]

The small fan is for hot and cooling the two larger fans on the sides are for layer cooling.

[@ZeyadAlmat]

Saw this early on Floatplane, watching it again on YT. Videos hosted by Dan are rewatchable af. Funny, informative, and soothing all at the same time.

[@AzuraTheRock]

We love Dan

[@Jef-F]

Dan can review a booger and I'd still watch it.

[@flammablewater1755]

1 hour after this video goes live and we've already hugged the Elegoo site nearly to death.

[@moki2093]

@@monki_sudo you've made 7 comments on this channel and 6 of them are for shitting on it.

[@tophatv2902]

@@monki_sudo dude i have seen you like 3 times on yt on diffrent videos. Go outside

[@DestroyedArkana]

I decided to pre-order this as my first 3D printer, thanks for the rundown! I hope it works well for me

[@kissmychakram1]

I see Dan, I watch the video. I didn't know it was possible to be chaotic dead-pan before he came along. This printer looks very interesting and might just be the one to get me to open my heart and wallet to 3D printing. Thanks.

[@SirSicCrusader]

I have been keeping a eye out for a recommendation for a starter printer, and I may have just found it thanks Dan, you the man etc.

[@nata911]

I fuckin love this dudes roll through everything style

[@urhomarkkanen]

"I hope it's not PTFE lined, otherwise you will die of neurotoxin poisoning" Just a PSA for those who don't know, PTFE, commonly known as Teflon, starts to decompose at temperatures above 260°C, so unless you for certain that your hotend doesn't contain PTFE (for example full-metal hotends, most hotends do have PTFE in them) its not safe to print at temperatures above 260°C

[@anmolsinghshekhawat4284]

you guys can make an ltt video for getting started with 3d printer for different budget and proficiency level. can also include a bit about 3d print farm business that people are building now a days. I myself want to start 3d printing but not sure which one to get.

[@BeefIngot]

You want to go to an actual 3d printing channel. You would not benefit from such a video. I promise you.

[@buckminst]

Not only did this video sell me on (and cause me to buy) the Neptune 4 Pro, but it introduced me to Klipper, and sent me down the rabbit hole of converting my Ender-3 Pro over to run Klipper off of a spare Raspberry Pi I have. Good job.

[@papaplintus]

Glad I preordered one earlier this month.

[@Dr_Axton]

In case you wonder about a axis rods being belt connected-that’s actually a relatively common thing, especially if you upgrade from one rod to two. It’s made in case only one driver makes two steppers move

[@shahmeer911]

Legit one of the best short cicuit vids

[@mikekuschka998]

Glad Dan is getting away form the help at the Wan Show. Excellent job. Keep up the good work all. That includes you Terren.

[@anarchangel7]

Would love to see more focus on the resin side of printers as well. Elegoo makes some nice ones.

[@The9El9Nino9]

I was actually hoping you would do this review/showcase.

[@digiscream]

I've had my Neptune 4 (non-Pro) for about a week now, and this is probably the best video I've seen on it. That said, I've been printing at a real 250-300mm/s, and I haven't had any of the issues seen here - aside from a bit of ringing, my prints have all come out perfect. In practice, this is just as fast as the Bambu printers, and the only thing it lacks is proper input shaping; the accelerometer headers are present on the controller board and it's obviously present in the firmware, there just...isn't one. In a sub-$300 printer, that's not the worst thing in the world I guess.

[@Itsudemo1]

It may be close to as fast but it's still a v roller bedslinger. It'll wear down quickly when pushing 200mm/s Core XY is for fast printing

[@digiscream]

@@Itsudemo1 - when you can buy 2-4 of these for the price of a CoreXY, it's not really a problem...especially when you consider the closed ecosystem and crappy firmware limitations of most CoreXY printers on the market, compared with this one running Klipper.

[@Brookler]

I'm moving in a few months to a bigger place, this is at the top of my shopping list

[@AndrewSpeer]

Dan's indifference @ 18:55 is why I love his hosting. Just completely unfazed by the utter chaos of it all.

[@zeke7515]

YESS!!! More 3D Printing content!

[@mysticwizard1943]

Elegoo makes great stuff. I've got the Neptune 2S and the Mars 2 Pro for resin and they're surprisingly good for their price. Probably gonna pick this one up when I've got some spare cash.

[@Fearox]

Crazy to see how far 3D printers have come.. I bought my first 3D printer 2017/18 for 500€ It had NO heated bed (I think it was a 120€ upgrade part) and no leveling assists.

[@se77ra57]

its insane to see how far 3d printers have come these past few years and how low the prices have become

[@RumenBlack]

It seems a lot like an ender3 thats just gotten all the upgrades most members of the community recommend. Very cool.

[@bryanv3loso]

Happy y'all run Vorons. ♥

[@HartenDylan]

Dan getting excited about cool nerdy shit is dopamine-fuel for sure. More please.

[@cparks872]

I'm a fan of Elegoo, I've had their Neptune 2 for a couple years now. Great budget printers. Probably going to be upgrading to the 4 or 4 Pro here in a few months. Their customer service is top notch as well.

[@99prxp]

build a voron

[@tophatv2902]

@@99prxp dont do this just get a bambu for cheaper

[@cparks872]

@@99prxp Unfortunately I don't have the budget for that. Maybe some day. It does look like a fun project!

[@Goodsdogs]

I’m buying one. Also Dan looks so happy. It’s great to see!!!!

[@trailkat1338]

Yo I’m so glad you covered this printer! I’m. very into 3d printers and am looking to buy another!

[@CapacitorCapacity]

Dan you should have demo'd screw tilt adjust while you were showing the bed mesh. Also you can klipperize any printer, including yours.

[@dagingerdude]

The expletive at the end really has me very interested. It is also nice to see Dan this perturbed about a printer 🙂

[@xsehrmotiviert]

Looks like Linus isn't the only one who can drop stuff

[@virgiltuser]

Nice! Just preordered one 👀

[@brokenwing]

Dan is a fantastic host. Hope to see him more often! I know nothing about 3D printing, but thanks to Dan's enthusiasm and knowledge, I found myself ready to throw money at the screen when he said the price

[@B_T_B]

I for one was happy when I got the Neptune 3 Max, then a week later releasing the Neptune 4 series! Hoping they dont release the 4 Max for a while! What I can see from that review of the 4.. Differences are the extra fans on the back of the extruder. Extra light on the extruder. 300°C temp upgrade on that nozzle. Yeah im happy and reckon I can upgrade this max with no problems. 😁

[@SiniSael]

yay Dan video!!! The best of LTT - Luke and Linus is cool and all but Dan is the man!

[@joeg1992]

It's Klipper, you can put that firmware on pretty much any consumer printer out there today. I run it on my Creality printers but it won't run on my FlashForge.

[@AnnaBellaBear]

Watching this video where Dan is describing all these cool, in-depth features and all I can think is, "how is this not like $600+" for all these features

[@BeefIngot]

because this is all old poorly implemented stuff on yet another ender clone. Times have evolved and the printer you can get for 600 are miles better in terms of speed and user experience.

[@tophatv2902]

@@BeefIngot no lol is anything remotely similar to ender is a clone now? lets be honest p1p isnt that far off for being twice as expensive and being closed source and possibly unsecure cloud servers unlike this klipper machine.

[@BeefIngot]

@@tophatv2902 Its similar in motion system. Rollers are awful. The P1P is more expensive yes, but I think it's worth it for not having to configure or tune

[@Digitness]

@@BeefIngotnot everyone wants to spend 600 on a printer, especially for their first one

[@BeefIngot]

@@Digitness Its tiring hearing this. Sometimes the minimum level for a good thing is just what it is. Now luckily since then there have been cheaper minimum levels coming out, but it is what it is. Its jot abojt what you think you want. People often simply dont know enough to know what they want. I do, so I share that.

[@VoidOperator]

I pre ordered this thing on day 1. I'll also be buying whatever printer someone makes that i can start prints from my phone while I'm at work. Bonus points for a Android version of Cura, and a slime block flying machine to push completed print off the bed so i can start the next one

[@InvadersDie]

I just watched you entire 3D printer playlist. took me a little under 26 minutes

[@99prxp]

cranking up the temp also helps with underextrusion issues

[@Outdoor_sports89]

Just ordered mine!

[@ElijahAndrade01]

I have the Elegoo Neptune 2S and I love it, I do want to get the Neptune Max 4 Pro as an upgrade in the future!

[@needfuldoer4531]

Dan's quiet chaos is a perfect compliment to Linus's regular chaos.

[@Wabaloo]

Dan has been the best addition to the on screen ltt team.

[@upcoming]

Muchos gracias El Gopher!

[@greenman360]

I already have two 3D printers and currently have no plans to purchase another, but I still watched this whole video. Because Dan videos are the best videos.

[@trailkat1338]

Also it would be awesome to see a list of the best printers at each price point(cheap,budget,mid,premium)

[@alex59292]

sv06 is very good cheap one

[@daveriedel4040]

love all the 3d printer vids lately

[@oliverm8058]

sameeee

[@MrPerfectjake]

This looks a great upgrade than the Neptune 3, which i bought as my 1st 3d printer. Just unboxed my Bambu Labs P1P today, which I bought because of Dan's review.

[@thecyberquake618]

​@@monki_sudo where are you finding a p1s for $400? Neptune 4 Pro is going for $300, P1S seems to be $700 most everywhere I can find it

[@kwedl]

@@monki_sudo For "only" 100 bucks you can buy a bunch of filament rolls though. Most people won't need the P1S enclosure or other small features, if anything since most people just print PLA or PETG you are better off without. Or you can print your own with less money.

[@shanematthews1985]

@@kwedl yeah the enclosure isn't really required unless you plan to print certain materials, as someone only doing PLA I would have to have the door open anyway if it was enclosed, the P1P is a damn good little printer though

[@kstricl]

I JUST bought an Ender 3 V2 Neo in early June. This makes me jealous, but I don't regret my purchase - some of the joy in these units is modifying them. I changed it to direct drive less than a week after purchase using a model from Thingiverse, which I have since modified to add things I wanted. This Elegoo is now on my recommend list for those that want to start without being modification happy.

[@svettnabb]

I’m going to buy this. Seems great