Now We're Talking!! Country Borders From Above #1 [PLAY ALONG]

[@calebu2]

The Spanish-Mexican border. Geowizard been focusing too much on the wedding to remember things like "geography". Congrats again!

[@ngwoo]

He's such a good wizard he was able to will Spain onto another continent

[@fdagpigj]

I was wondering which overseas territory of Spain borders Mexico

[@TheRealMrMackey]

its entirely feasible

[@607]

When he said "Which is entirely feasible", I started to doubt my own geography knowledge. xD

[@sanderappel4499]

How he realized what he said, and then said Mexico again

[@Elektronaut]

My guess for the offset for the location on the border between China and Macau would be whats described in the wikipedia article "Restrictions on geographic data in China" under section "GPS shift problem"

[@MrAlsachti]

I didn't know Chinese restrictions could be so annoying.

[@fregus.]

@@MrAlsachti try living in china :p

[@buntjo8404]

If you overlay the satellite image and the street map on google maps you'll see that the pinned location is correct but the street map on the chinese site is shifted to the east by about 500m and changed abit

[@pepapu7112]

No it's not, everything else lined up except for the shore line. The discrepancy of the shore line is because China has filled up the bay and built on it since the satellite imagery was taken.

[@_f355]

@@pepapu7112 yes it is, just go to the middle of beijing on google maps, turn on satellite imagery and see if the roads line up with the image.

[@msachin4885]

8:05 That is actually insane that you managed to zoom into the correct tributary without even trying

[@mloxard]

That was so perfect 😂

[@tanks4dying]

@@mloxardright?? 😭😭

[@Gameboygenius]

It really isn't all that insane. The location was chosen to be where the border drops down from the river. If you were committed to that part of Norway, that's where you'd likely look first if you were to try scanning all along the river. If anything it was a well chosen location where the challenge is finding the right general location rather than tedious pinpointing.

[@thewarchronicles4202]

@@Gameboygenius "ak-shually *adjusts glasses* it isn't all that insane... the lokay-SHUN was CHOSEN to be where the..."

[@thesupersaiyann5424]

@@Gameboygenius 🤓

[@andy_DE]

9:49 The questions "Which countries have a common neighbor" with "Norway & North Korea" as one of the options was in fact years ago on the German "Who wants to be a millionaire?"!

[@TheEspenjo]

I have actually had the question twice in pub quizes! But me being Norwegian might skew the data a bit

[@Gameboygenius]

Interesting. I wonder what the other 3 options were.

[@izybit]

@@Gameboygenius Spain & Mexico was probably one of the three

[@andy_DE]

@@Gameboygenius I just googled it: On May 16th 2011, question 13 (125000 €) Welche beiden Staaten haben ein gemeinsames Nachbarland ? A: Nordkorea & Norwegen B: Venezuela & Portugal C: Somalia & Israel D: Indonesien & Griechenland

[@Gameboygenius]

@@andy_DE thanks. So it seems C is the "obvious" bait. Did it also say what the contestant answered, or if they pulled out?

[@RFC3514]

Actually, *there **_is_** a border between Spain and Mexico.* It's also across a body of water (same as that part of the border with Portugal), just a little bit wider than the Guadiana river. I believe it's called the "Atlantic" or something like that.

[@stephenbeck7222]

If you account for exclusive economic zones, then travel from Spain to Mexico without encroaching on other countries would have to go all the way around South America to the Pacific side.

[@RFC3514]

@@stephenbeck7222 - Well, as long as you don't fish or drill for oil near Cuba, you should be covered by Freedom of Navigation even if you go the "short" way.

[@squidwardo7074]

He was just thinking the past when they were one in the same

[@odog6009]

"The border between Mexico and Spain" -GeoWizard You are so awesome dude. You inspired me to get into geography and now I am pretty good at it myself. Keep up the work dude.

[@Flavius_Theodosius]

He obviously lives in the future and Spain has reclaimed all of its former colonies with the exception of Mexico.

[@Thungon]

"If it's Spain it'll have to be its border with Mexico" I needed a great laugh today LOL. This is legendary.

[@isladurrant2015]

Borders often follow rivers... it can cause havoc when rivers decide not to follow borders.

[@rafaxd8178]

I am Spanish and love the way of saying "Guadiana" with a perfect Italian accent

[@cocuto864]

I am Italian and i love that too lol

[@bestbetta]

Despite the Spain/Mexico comment, I’m amazed at your instincts for those borders as I was whole continents off in my guesses. So excited for lots more GeoGussr content to come and belated congrats on the wedding!

[@Kangakool]

The link sent me to the correct places, but normal street view, not satellite. I'm so impressed at how quickly you got them!

[@WilliamAndrea]

Yeah, you need a plugin to do the satellite imagery

[@matefazekas3107]

@@WilliamAndrea what plugin?

[@robspunk]

You're looking at my home there for a second. On the Macau - China border. So Macau is basically the 2 islands, second, southern one built of Casinos and hotels. North one is the old Portugese settlment in a nutshell. I live on the China side on the left, west side of the river. I should sent you a photo. But i didn't realise it till you actually said "could be hong kong". Which is odd because I look at the maps almost every day. I actually thought instantly that is was Barca or somewhere in the middle east. Quite a mash up.

[@victortelesa]

I'm always astonished by the Tom's hunches, so accurate!

[@Cyax84]

the norway one was crazy .... basically hit it directly

[@mojochin7004]

Was I the only one that played along but got regular GeoGuessr maps? I'm not sure if the aerial view is better than street view or not!

[@mytube001]

You need some kind of sketchy plugin to get the aerial view. Not for me.

[@amity2274]

I'm kinda proud of myself for getting the USA/Canada border location almost immediately. I don't even really know why it was so obvious to me, but I saw the border and thought "that is the most Maine-looking border I've seen in my life" and went with it lol.

[@evergreenappreciator]

Same! Thought it could be Madawaska at first but it was missing the mill! Always happy to see my state's existence be recognized lol

[@amity2274]

@@evergreenappreciator I'm about as far away from the state of Maine as a continuous US American can be, but I'm very interested in the french speaking parts of the country, so Madawaska occupies an unusual amount of headspace for me since it's the town with the most US francophones. Whenever I think about making big moves across the country, I always think about New England :).

[@Matthew-zv8qe]

you are the goat just saw your comment on innerspeaker live from the wave house what a goat. Noitced 12:51 in one video aswell what a goat music taste.

[@PseudoPolish]

"i might be wrong" and that's when you know he's goddamn right

[@adamfrank5183]

ah yes the deep dense, harsh tundra of New Brunswick

[@realhawaii5o]

The first one is, funnily enough, the only spot on the Portuguese-Spanish border that is disputed. In spite of being the oldest continuously defined border, since the treaty of Zamora in the 1200s, the area around Olivenç/za has been disputed since the Spanish took it during the Napoleonic wars and didn't return it after the Congress of Vienna.

[@chabum81]

The play along link doesn't have the top down view for me, it's a normal geoguessr round

[@ixxxxxxx]

same yeah, came looking for anyone else who noticed

[@SuperUltraBritishGigaChad]

Fantastic to know, you're recording tom! Always have to check.

[@snsopmilk8353]

Your instincts are legendary

[@Toa07]

ah yes, the spanish-mexican border. entirely feasable. love you tom.

[@dennisweaver3907]

The only reason you missed the spot at Macau is a Google maps screw-up in that area. All the "digital" roads are offset from the actual roads. Check it out and you'll see what I mean. I stood at the border of China and Macau. I recognized it right away. Love your channel.

[@shipwreck9146]

17:25 That's called a yakhchāl. They were used to make ice in ancient Persia. They use evaporative cooling by pouring water down the sides, it flows around the spiral, which increases the surface area for water to evaporate off of. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhch%C4%81l

[@MikeP2055]

I went and checked it out on street view. I think it's just a spiral garden mound or compost pile or something right next to the Redange, Lux fire station. But learning about yakhchtāls was pretty dang interesting nonetheless! ✌️

[@shipwreck9146]

@@MikeP2055 Ah, just a yard decoration then, that's very cool hahaha. But yeah! It's awesome that ice was discovered so long ago, and in the middle of a desert. It's insane that they could make things that cold without any form of pumps or motors.

[@georgehumphrey7178]

Amazing finds! Much better than i would have done, but it was frustrating watching you equate a road to a border haha - roads usually pass through borders no along them

[@chaoticsquid]

Hi Tom, there's a google support thread I found that clears up the issue on round 4. The Chinese government requires google maps to use their national coordinate system (GCJ-02), while the rest of the world uses an international standard coordinate system (WGS-84). This means that all the street data for china on maps is shifted by around 200 metres. From what I can tell your guess was based mostly on the information you could gather on the Chinese side of the border, but if you'd known about the discrepancy you would've looked more carefully at the Macanese side. Your guess was technically incorrect, but given you didn't know about the discrepancy I can't blame you.

[@DjVortex-w]

Technically speaking Spain and Mexico do share a border. It's just a bit of water in between them, but otherwise.

[@Corndog4382]

I guessed Luxembourg almost instantly just because it looked western European and wealthy. That Norway perfect zoom in was great.

[@tensor9470]

16:14 The map was a bit misleading but the pin was in the correct location, you realise once you match up the roads

[@essby_]

idk what roads you were lining up, but the pin was definitely in the wrong spot.

[@tensor9470]

@@essby_ The pin is to the left of the big road next to the "Dog Park". You can also tell by the curved edge of the tall buildings lining up to the left of that junction.

[@emy5845]

@@essby_ look at the distance between the "Parque Municipal Dr. Sun Yat Sen" and the "Posto Fronteiriço das Portas de Cerco", the pin is about the same distance to the East of the border post. If you compare satellite and map on Google Maps, you'll see that everything (the roads & pinned locations) on the China side are shifted to the East.

[@Corhone]

@@essby_ All the roads are lining up on Macau side. And pin was in the right spot.

[@kilasracingfactory]

Before watching: The border of Austria and the Czech Republic is interesting because of the difference in field sizes.

[@sunj8346]

Macau consists of the peninsula in the north and the island in the south. and some leased land from China in the west for the new campus of University of Macau.

[@stephenkrzynowek4543]

12th! Haha keep these frequent uploads up Tom! We love you!

[@607]

4:25 Phew, you figured it out. :P It seemed obvious to me just from the satellite view with the marker on it that the river would be the border.

[@LordBrozart]

I like how at 20:14 you came in tapping the beat

[@yourlovelyduck_1306]

haha the reference with the name "papers please" is genius ☠️

[@methosb]

Macau is 2 main land masses, the lower one is called Taipa.

[@laguzi8999]

I'd like to see you playing competitive again

[@brandonaerys442]

can't believe Macau showed up on geoguessr! the border follows the channel of water on the west all the way to the sea, so the island in the south (Taipa) connected by the three bridges is also part of Macau also I think the geoguessr solution was right, the land shape just didn't match up as the map showed the marshy bit on the china side as land instead of sea

[@M077Y]

I too appreciate the Mr. Whippy!

[@apocsquid]

anyone know why the satellite view isn't working for me when i load up the map? just gives me a street view like normal

[@cort3679]

Same thing happened to me. Maybe because of using the free version?

[@apocsquid]

@@cort3679 i have membership so it’s not because you’re on free version. i don’t know why it is i hope someone comes with a solution.

[@CroftyOriginal]

To this day I always get worried you're not recording when you say 'are we recording'... Even though i am watching it I'm like 'oh shit is he?!'

[@CantoraMask]

The level of security also helps

[@Sndrtj]

I played along but it was regular Geoguesr, not the sattelite view lol. Had fun anyway

[@KimiFerrariV2]

most northern point of the EU, i visited there 2 years ago, and recognized it immediately

[@samjohnson3368]

😂 Forgot what his avatar looked like. When he hit results that made me laugh

[@Mansin]

Chinese maps are purposely distorted, I think that's why you got it a bit off.

[@hanswurst8317]

The thing with the misplacement in China might be that the Roadmap is tinkered with and not absolutely precise to the true coordinates

[@MsEldarium]

no, he put the marker too far away to the east.. there's a little triangle "island" on the road on the photo, but he put in on the next road over, which has a rectangular "island"

[@robertravas8026]

@@MsEldarium No, the data on the map is messed up as said above, you can check it for yourself on google maps i.imgur.com/M32j4Jt.png

[@ligametis]

China on purpose provide incorrect street maps to companies in other countries. So satellite is correct, but simple map is shifted randomly.

[@maxxiong]

@@ligametis It's actually China-made maps that are off, because mapping accurately in China is illegal. Google uses a Chinese data source. OSM data is accurate in China.

[@eithanackerman98]

How do you get it to be the satellite imagery rather than street view? Genuinely curious so I can play myself

[@Xzirf57]

Mexican here. You clearly have a sign of Mexicanitis which is only treateble coming to the country and having some Tacos. I highly suggest for you to do it as soon as possible.

[@KeithCarpenter-eo6gr]

Saw the Canada US location and instantly thought “Maine never pops up in these games…” also, it’s pronounced cal-liss, well done!

[@winkekeks]

That Macau offset could be because of satellite images and Google Maps always have an offset in China

[@tubetube7025]

i always thought Hong Kong was a part of main China but it is not and today i have learned this. Man i really gotta learn more about Geography.

[@fleischubermskelett4397]

i feel like we've all had the same look on our face when tom said spain bordered mexico lol

[@shawnfreeman3932]

Hes a wizard, Harry

[@colinmaynard2879]

I think you should approach your chair manufacturer for a sponsorship deal.

[@msquaredmedia8717]

Spain bordering Mexico absolutely blew me away 🤣🤣

[@AlexRembish]

Speaking about Macao. I guess it could be a problem with GPS coordinates in China. Check a huge long bridge next to Macao - satellite and normal map. You will see a difference.

[@Capslacka]

It drives me nuts that Tom doesn't use mouse wheel to zoom in and out haha

[@noisy8937]

well he does actually most of the time

[@Capslacka]

@@noisy8937 yeah I guess the times he doesn't just stand out to me

[@Kerguelen.Mapping]

macau is actually both cotai and the northern part

[@Nooticus]

Excellent video

[@philippegohier6992]

the famous new brunswick toundra...

[@matthewgilbert1463]

Fun fact! Us Mainer's pronounce Calais "caliss" because... idk why but we just do

[@kdub437]

I was so close to the 25k but the ever dreaded central Europe came to squander that after guessing German-Czechia but I'll take a 23.7 at least. I about gave up at Macau until I finally realized it was Asia, which the roads there were accurate tbf but no worries m8 we"ll call it a perfect score. Also big tip for determining USA/Canada is finding baseball diamonds

[@ericzache3636]

Tried to play along but it won't give me this upside view like you got

[@Uncle_Buzz]

I got the same score on Round 4 for the same reason you did. Sux.

[@danielolbecker4358]

called Spain after I saw the waterhole on the 1st one

[@stef182]

Thank you for this video tom.

[@philwalksabout]

Gona play this while listening to Borderline by Madonna, cheers

[@janeric9220]

Tom you are the MVP!!

[@Thestaggertom]

... Going alright man, how about you ?

[@nickcoutts2904]

I'm so confused - when I click the challenge link I get regular old Street View locations not satellite ones. He really is a wizard.

[@theREALhillshum]

Yeah I get it too. Kinda disappointing

[@heichan8657]

For the china-macau round: Both island are macau, in fact it was 3, but taipa and cotai have been reclamed to be one. The hengqin islands are all chinese. the labelled on the chinese side is wrong, the map is right, the land has been reclamation.

[@JamesCoyle95]

You did get the Macau one wrong. Everything above the border is inaccurate due to the Chinese laws restricting the accuracy of foreign maps. You based your guess on the water above that border but should have used the roads in Macau to verify the positioning.

[@AgnesN]

Am I the only one for whom the challenge link opens like a normal game and not with satellite imagery?

[@derdeutsche8888]

Tom could you do one of the new Germany maps

[@grahamfox4279]

Wait why does the playalong link go to street view?

[@PuNicAdbo]

14:20 Macau instant guess on my side here... let's see

[@azide6172]

The map only plays for me in street view. Can't get satellite view. Anyone else?

[@lhaviland8602]

I've actually been to the third location, got it instantly.

[@PotionSeller721]

All of Chinas Satellite Imagery is shifted. Maybe thats the reason for the weird miss.

[@Sympanet]

That’s a very clicky mouse you’ve got there

[@jaketaylor7316]

dude what is that song at the 20min mark??

[@bamzerdaniel1997]

That was amazing skills how quickly you found them But then you go Mexican-Spain border 😂

[@CerebralChaos]

The reason you lost 2 points in China is because China uses a different coordinate system than the rest of the world, so the locations are always slightly off. I noticed this the other day when I was making a Geoguessr map and saw that all of the photospheres I was selecting in China were not in the exact right location.

[@Tyler-mz2sm]

If you're ever in Colorado, hit me up... you're a legend!

[@SirMarex]

Mr. Whippy sent me to outer space

[@yugi_motta]

my man's too good

[@grapesodatravels]

More ridiculous skills! We look forward to finding out what other things are entirely feasible 😉

[@foxyninjaa]

Tom please get another screen!! You'll never have to worry about not recording yourself again! I wanna see these unrecorded bangers

[@maxxiong]

Recognized the Macau round instantly. BTW China is problematic for this specific game mode because the satellite doesn't line up with the map.

[@monodimensionalbeing7996]

1:23 - RIP to the americans - I agree though

[@danort17]

The Macao-China border was wrong because the complete map material of China has a slight offset. It's always hell to play Chinese maps

[@TheLibermania]

All Glory to Arstotzka!

[@xgkick]

just scrolling through the comments to see if anyone actually explains how to get the satellite view script.

[@ilplolthereturn7525]

As a Spanish person, I confirm we border Mexico

[@cryptearth]

well - as for the china border: it's china - gmaps/gearth is made mis-aligned on purpose so the real world satellite image and the logical schematic map doesn't match up but are shifted by some extented and sometimes scaled and rotated - it's because china not like google or apple or bing as these are murican companies I don't know the chinese version - but it should be more or less accurate - or not - I don't know hat satnav works in china

[@zeklick2689]

Macau guess was actually correct, so not a perfect score. you just used the wrong building as a reference.

[@hristianalashki7645]

what's the FPL league code?