There Will Be Blood: Vocal Control in Movies

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Voice shows a characters control of a scene. Depending on how they talk and when they talk, you can see the power dynamics between characters. Who's in control, and who's being dominated. With this thinking in mind, Daniel Plainview becomes a fascinating character to study. And do first understand Daniel Plainview's voice, you have to first understand John Wayne's voice.
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@28holes
@28holes 4 жыл бұрын
The scene with Eli forcing Daniel to repeat the phrase "I have abandoned my boy" is a great example of the power dynamic of revenge and competition in the movie. The ending scene in the bowling alley where Daniel makes Eli repeat the phrase "I am a false prophet, God is a superstition" is such a big motif of personal revenge against Eli.
@CigaretteCrayon
@CigaretteCrayon 3 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Eli Sunday's point, regarding HW. He seemingly inserted his opinion there, and we can see that Daniel sent him to get an education as his bid to try to communicate with him again.
@NERDXCORE
@NERDXCORE 3 жыл бұрын
So many levels to this film.
@soccerman9307
@soccerman9307 3 жыл бұрын
@@CigaretteCrayon if that was the case he wouldn't have lied to him and abandon him on the train. he would have also learned sign language if he wanted to communicate with him.
@hanschristopherson8056
@hanschristopherson8056 3 жыл бұрын
Because he also is a fraud, a false prophet who uses religion to serve himself
@catherinefrisbie1342
@catherinefrisbie1342 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mrjack8849
@mrjack8849 5 жыл бұрын
It’s hard for an actor to keep with DDL but Paul Dano did a pretty good job in that movie.
@user-fq1ig3uy3q
@user-fq1ig3uy3q 5 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a comment like this. Bravo.
@clayborngrey3552
@clayborngrey3552 5 жыл бұрын
He’s a very underrated actor. He’s absolutely fantastic in Prisoners as well
@mynineridesshotgun
@mynineridesshotgun 5 жыл бұрын
Clayborn Grey I agree that he’s amazing in Prisoners. That movie doesn’t get enough recognition.
@brokenwave6125
@brokenwave6125 5 жыл бұрын
@Abdulla Saleh And both decided to work with Paul Thomas Anderson... One of the best directors ever
@i.am.fearlessone
@i.am.fearlessone 5 жыл бұрын
@@clayborngrey3552 Agreed. Paul Dano is amazing.
@woodedco
@woodedco 5 жыл бұрын
"The voice is the fingerprint of the soul" - Daniel Day-Lewis
@TheSighphiguy
@TheSighphiguy 5 жыл бұрын
its funny how that quote applies completely to John Wayne, but not at all to himself. John wayne can be identified by voice alone in every one of his movies even if you never saw the movie before, where as, you would be hard pressed to ever identify Mr. Lewis by voice alone. John Wayne was great, but very "one note" in his delivery. Danial Day is ever changing and unique to a fault in every part he plays. I would arguably rate Mr. Lewis as the greatest actor to ever grace the screen.
@HafiizhHamid
@HafiizhHamid 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSighphiguy Couldn't agree more. While John Wayne being John Wayne in every John Wayne movie, I don't really see Daniel Day-Lewis. All I see is his character. He talks differently for different character. From the quote, my guess is that his first step is finding the voice of the character.
@LMFmaskO
@LMFmaskO 4 жыл бұрын
For decades, i never knew DDL' actual voice, i can spot most actors in animated films and do pretty well with intentional misdirects... But I'll never be able to identify his actual voice... I'll never forget his performances in GangsofNY, Lincoln, and TTWB... Holy fuck.. he's unbelievable
@makemeajmod
@makemeajmod 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSighphiguy hes not implying the recognition of the voice. ex oh thats defiantly John Waynes voice. he is implying what this videos is suggesting. being able to control the narrative and harness the moment.
@kezzler9556
@kezzler9556 6 жыл бұрын
There will be blood is a masterpiece. One of my all time favorite films.
@richiehops7881
@richiehops7881 4 жыл бұрын
His destruction of Eli is beautiful. Epic film.
@brianphillips5978
@brianphillips5978 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen Donnie Brasco, its on Netflix and a great ass movie
@vCLOWNSHOESv
@vCLOWNSHOESv 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianphillips5978 But why? I love that movie but this man is on another level.
@brianphillips5978
@brianphillips5978 4 жыл бұрын
@@vCLOWNSHOESv im suggesting a movie, fuck you mean "bUt WhY"
@brianphillips5978
@brianphillips5978 4 жыл бұрын
@@vCLOWNSHOESv this a good movie i guess, but the mob and mafia movies in my opinion are better than western type movies
@JuanAMatos-zx4ub
@JuanAMatos-zx4ub 4 жыл бұрын
To this day, no performance grips me from beginning to end like Daniel Day Lewis in There Will Be Blood. In my opinion, it's the best performance ever captured on camera.
@jadenstearns7211
@jadenstearns7211 4 жыл бұрын
For me it is this and Tony Soprano by James Gandolfini
@jamescaban7710
@jamescaban7710 4 жыл бұрын
I give you two thumbs up I agree wholeheartedly most impressive Daniel Day-Lewis in my opinion is the greatest actor of our time
@Arisbe_obasmoqweef
@Arisbe_obasmoqweef 4 жыл бұрын
I almost want to agree but I will say it’s comparable to Christy Brown, Bill Cutting or to his character in Last of the Mohicans, but perhaps the cinematography and score and other performances detract to his perfection of that role. In the Name Of the Father was good too. I didn’t care for his last movie too much but his talent in role playing is undeniable. And I’m sorry I can’t stand James Gandolfini. His role as Tony Soprano was the same mannerisms, same tone of voice almost same character as the guy he played in True Romance. I think he is an overrated actor that got the hype due to the quality of the show. Any actor could have gotten that part and made it just as big give or take a few memorable moments here and there. I betcha there are some actors who would have catapulted that show even through further greatness. But regardless that’s just me guessing. Daniel Day Lewis is a powerhouse. I can’t think of a better actor.
@r.p.mcmurphy6328
@r.p.mcmurphy6328 4 жыл бұрын
DDL is the man. Absolutely hard to top. I love the last statement in the movie, "I'm finished.". It's like he's saying to his butler, "Come see my work of art. Now clean it up.". Haha.
@justicekreider2978
@justicekreider2978 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget Bill the Butcher from Gangs of New York
@lydiadob
@lydiadob 6 жыл бұрын
My mom came in during the cattle scene and said “John Wayne? I’d know that voice anywhere.”
@NowYouSeeIt
@NowYouSeeIt 6 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@robbepetitjean4343
@robbepetitjean4343 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job acting like a dick
@SICKDOAPNIXON
@SICKDOAPNIXON 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Smecker is always ahead of things.
@ssjwes
@ssjwes 6 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I don't see why people tell others like this, they're lying. First how the hell do you know and second why the hell would someone lie about something like that? So in the end even if they are, who cares? Doesn't even matter.. so trivial...
@pierreo33
@pierreo33 6 жыл бұрын
stellvia hohenheim during the "cattle scene"
@labyrinthwomb
@labyrinthwomb 4 жыл бұрын
I think Don Draper in Mad Men has a very similar vocal control. His motto is "If you don't like what's being said, change the conversation." But it's all a front and he's extremely unhappy. Also, Jon Hamm does a great job playing him.
@465marko
@465marko 4 жыл бұрын
And additionally, his name is reminiscent of the tasty sandwich meat we all know and love.
@callumsamericanfriend2943
@callumsamericanfriend2943 4 жыл бұрын
Vocal control and dialogue in Mad Men is extremely underrated to me, but I agree that especially Don's character is a great example of this.
@markboston9303
@markboston9303 4 жыл бұрын
What makes Jon Hamm complex is that he stole the power and narrative of his life from someone else he met in the war. essentially his whole existence is manufactured , just like how his business will manufacture perceptions about the products they advertise . His existence is hastily created and performed but his manipulations, demonstrated by the many people he hurt over time, was the truest part of his character and the most lasting. before becoming Jon Hamm he was a passive coward of sorts (didn't they say he had a stutter when he was young?) . and the dichotomy of Hamm was that the character drives , especially with the women be chased, were born out of his desire to run away from his past. his continued manipulation and ignorance of who he really was ironically were the most solid elements of what Jon Hamm was.
@markboston9303
@markboston9303 4 жыл бұрын
adding onto this, lot of his mottos were always drenched in a man obsessed with changing who he was. crazy to think that he was an actor playing an actor playing someone opposite of who he was
@joancollaku8744
@joancollaku8744 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Soprano too
@phlaelym
@phlaelym 6 жыл бұрын
"Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." - John Wayne
@Prodmullefc
@Prodmullefc 4 жыл бұрын
Aristotle says almost the same in thing in Ethics
@streetrat48
@streetrat48 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck John Wayne
@ridespirals
@ridespirals 4 жыл бұрын
@@streetrat48 whoa there pil grum
@katherinea.williams3044
@katherinea.williams3044 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t concur with you more! I meant Wayne. Much like Betty Draper, her childhood character, she was fined a penny by her parents by talking too much. The art of conversation is SUCH a lost art. People just say whatever pops into their head, without thinking AT ALL of the words as they literally say them. A damn shame. But one I take great pride in. Love & Light from Miami✨✌🏼 Stay safe everyone🌎
@streetrat48
@streetrat48 4 жыл бұрын
@@ridespirals He was a hate filled racist piece of shit, to quote Joker from FMJ, "He can eat the peanuts out of my shit."
@losthor1zon
@losthor1zon 5 жыл бұрын
I recall a quote from, I think, an Oscar Wilde character: "It's not enough that I should succeed, but that others should fail." That seems to match the Daniel Plainview character's drive.
@BOOGiNS
@BOOGiNS 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind the fact that he actually says the line in the movie. Just keep trying to take credit for nothing tho
@losthor1zon
@losthor1zon 4 жыл бұрын
@@BOOGiNS - Cool! I'll have to look up the quote, because I'm pretty sure it's not original.
@BOOGiNS
@BOOGiNS 4 жыл бұрын
@@losthor1zon "I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed"...
@dunctank612
@dunctank612 Жыл бұрын
Gore Vidal said that, not Wilde
@losthor1zon
@losthor1zon Жыл бұрын
@@dunctank612 - Ok, now I really have to figure this out. Instead of forgetting about it for another three years.
@RafiOmar83
@RafiOmar83 6 жыл бұрын
There Will Be Blood is one of those rare movies that you can watch again and again and still be able to find something new. Daniel Plainview is one of the most realistic characters in movie history, and Daniel Day Lewis one of the greatest actors.
@mgaf9995
@mgaf9995 3 жыл бұрын
“In the end plainview wins but he’s not in control” this is not only a great summation of the that final conversation, but the plot as a whole.
@kenichidc
@kenichidc 6 жыл бұрын
Please never stop making these. Every frame a painting isn't a thing anymore
@adamlord
@adamlord 6 жыл бұрын
KenichiDC why isn't he anymore? He was an inspiration for alot of us
@justcallmecaligula
@justcallmecaligula 6 жыл бұрын
Adam Lord i don't remember where exactly it was uploaded but he made a post on his blog written by him and his girlfriend talking about how they're doing different things now
@Nirvanist100
@Nirvanist100 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's a real loss. I considered him perhaps the best at what his channel did. One step above even "Now you see it", which is still a truly great channel. Well, life goes on I guess, there will be other creators providing content and some maybe will achieve a similarly excellent quality of content
@epicvader5603
@epicvader5603 6 жыл бұрын
I think it was on reddit. I saw the post too. :/
@00HoODBoy
@00HoODBoy 6 жыл бұрын
luca pons check out channel criswell, my fav
@RisingJake
@RisingJake 6 жыл бұрын
But of course, Daniel Day-Lewis is in complete control when his voice spikes on "MILKSHAKE!"
@PedroOrdep-kv5vw
@PedroOrdep-kv5vw 6 жыл бұрын
It's good to see you here RisingJake.
@goat9199
@goat9199 6 жыл бұрын
The should have put you in a JAR
@MrClickity
@MrClickity 6 жыл бұрын
Bastard in a basket! BASTARD IN A BASKET!
@declanmcnamara2223
@declanmcnamara2223 5 жыл бұрын
his losing control in that moment shows just how unhinged the character has become
@nickmattio3397
@nickmattio3397 5 жыл бұрын
“We’ll offer quail prices >:•{D”
@karsaoblong2630
@karsaoblong2630 6 жыл бұрын
Its interesting to see Daniel Day Lewis playing characters who are not only internally troubled but also have to partake in intense psychological battles with other characters. His vocal control and range is one skill that really sets him apart from other actors and enables him to do justice to playing such amazing characters over and over again.
@xeroxre6837
@xeroxre6837 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Plainview is my favorite character of all time So courageous, so tragic, so flawed, so doomed
@seven11noe
@seven11noe 3 жыл бұрын
I take it you like modern art too ?
@fwef7445
@fwef7445 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel was an extreme narcissist
@devoncrestway338
@devoncrestway338 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: John Wayne modeled his walk, talk, and overall mannerisms in film after Wyatt Earp. He met the man once and, after that, knew that it was who he wanted to mimic on screen.
@jimmetopramen7827
@jimmetopramen7827 4 жыл бұрын
Really? I sincerely hope there's true
@devoncrestway338
@devoncrestway338 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmetopramen7827 it is. it's a well-recorded fact.
@meh9682
@meh9682 3 жыл бұрын
@@devoncrestway338 Which one, Costner or Russell? I enjoy both movies but Tombstone with Kilmer epic performance as Doc it's not close. 😜I know.
@trackstar6742
@trackstar6742 3 жыл бұрын
Any proof of your fact?
@devoncrestway338
@devoncrestway338 3 жыл бұрын
@@meh9682 huh? lol. no, man. i mean the REAL wyatt earp.
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 6 жыл бұрын
2:34 - so THAT'S where Arnold Shwarzenegger's T-800 Terminator gets the one-handed shotgun reload from in Terminator 2 Judgement Day! He's doing a John Wayne! The Harley was a modern stand-in for a horse! Wow, cool.
@yokatta-f
@yokatta-f 5 жыл бұрын
@D D Very thought-provoking comment
@thecadman99
@thecadman99 5 жыл бұрын
And probably with a real production rifle, not a lightweight prop gun.
@lucentblood
@lucentblood 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe. interestingly notice how the gun John Wayne uses had a large loop for the lever. This aides in the ability to do the flip load. On T2 there were two different props. One with a normal lever and the other with the large loop for doing the flip loads. Apparently Arnold attempted to do a flip load with the normal lever and almost broke his fingers in the process. Also good to note that John Wayne is using a rifle, while Arnold was using a shotgun
@xandercorp6175
@xandercorp6175 5 жыл бұрын
The one-handed shotgun reload comes from real people reloading real shotguns with one hand. Do you also think that the way horses run in Seabiscuit "came from" 1878's horse in motion, that people who walk in moves "got it" from 1895's "Roundhay's Garden Scene, or that 1895's "Arrival of a Train" set the standard for how trains stopped at stations for movies forever more? Shotguns are real things in the real world, and reloading them one-handed is a real thing that happened even before they were ever featured in a movie and still happens in the modern era.
@mariaah3073
@mariaah3073 5 жыл бұрын
@@xandercorp6175 The fact that it happens in real live doesn't make it less of a reference or a homage. I mean, I'm pretty sure many twin sisters have stood in hallways holding hands throughout history, but whenever we see it in a movie it's almost certain to be a reference to The Shining. Whenever we hear a "I'll be back" from someone, even though it's been said thousand, millions of times by normal people, we think of Terminator. It's about the imagery, meaning and relevance of a certain thing, not about the mundane act itself.
@richiehops7881
@richiehops7881 4 жыл бұрын
The destruction of Eli was beautiful and highly satisfying.
@LMFmaskO
@LMFmaskO 4 жыл бұрын
I make a yearly habit to watch TTWB for that moment, you cant skip the movie or it wont resonate, also GangsofNY, xmas movies.
@gabhandebrun1871
@gabhandebrun1871 4 жыл бұрын
@Brian Cencere Try Christy Brown autobiographical film MY LEFT FOOT if you’re haven’t seen it already it’s a empowering role in which DDL plays a cerebral palsy born into a family of 22 children and doctors and nurses told them he should be put into a mental home as he would be a mute vegetable and a burden but the family an my nannie in particular discovers a spark behind his eyes and helped with great struggles at times to awaken the genius within in a rough tough working class dublin so great and proud!! 🇮🇪✊👍
@CDeeez94
@CDeeez94 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, but honestly I also wanted Daniel to get his comeuppance too. I mean, he is an alcoholic recluse in the end, but the first time I watched the movie, I thought he might've been killed by the end of the movie, and I thought that's what the movie was leading to.
@jml6263
@jml6263 4 жыл бұрын
@Astro Apollo The way Daniel treated his son, especially in regards to his deafness which he brought upon his child, at the end of the film hit me differently. Eli was a shit but Daniel was a level of cruel that was unrelenting and spared no one. I do think that the last line of the film did mean that Daniel's comeuppance was coming, we just don't get to witness it (maybe through the loss of his son). Anyways H.W. was about the only character in this film I ended up respecting as a person and thank god he got out happy and truly loved.
@Lodatzor
@Lodatzor 4 жыл бұрын
@@jml6263 Also, Eli is more complicated than just being a shit. He's a fraud, and someone who craves social power, but at the same time he was right the whole time about how Daniel had cheated him (and his family). Their entire conflict stems, ultimately, from the fact that Eli correctly perceives that Plainview is trying to screw them over for his own gain. One had to wonder how much more smoothly everything would have gone, if Plainview had simply given Eli the $5,000 he wanted for the oil. Eli's biggest crime in the movie is playing the townsfolks for saps as their spiritual healer. Daniel's crimes are far more extensive, and worse in my opinion.
@AlaskaChromeProductions
@AlaskaChromeProductions 5 жыл бұрын
DDL literally is the master of accents and characters. Gangs of New York! His portrayal of bill the butcher had me shook! The guy is incredible!
@TheStranger513
@TheStranger513 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I should dislike this for the fact that you didn't show "I. DRINK. YOUR MILKSHAKE!!! SSSSSSSLLFFLLLLHHHHHHHH. I think that's how you spell that slurping sound.
@FalloutUgglan
@FalloutUgglan 4 жыл бұрын
Such a memorable scene
@fire34084
@fire34084 4 жыл бұрын
I unlike your comment so I could re like it
@altobonifacio8936
@altobonifacio8936 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's more like SSSSSSSLRUHRUHRURHRURUUHHHHHHHHHSSLAALALAHALASHSHSHALHSHSALAALHURRRRR
@jamillie87
@jamillie87 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 6 жыл бұрын
DDL. The best actor I’ve ever witnessed. His performance in TWBB is one of the best performances ever.
@colinbreland1696
@colinbreland1696 6 жыл бұрын
Eddie Cardwell watch Jake gyllenhaal in nightcrawler. Fantastic performance and I'm biased here, but in an actually good movie.
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 6 жыл бұрын
Colin Breland - He’s good too. I’ve seen it. He’s underrated.
@kristiangac4935
@kristiangac4935 6 жыл бұрын
Colin Breland are you implying TWBB isn't good?
@colinbreland1696
@colinbreland1696 6 жыл бұрын
Kristian Gac yes. I think TWBB is terribly boring with nothing interesting to say. I can think of two good scenes, the intro where no one is speaking and when DDL and his "brother" are on the beach. DDL is terrible in this and Paul Dano sucks too. What's an entertaining part of this movie? The big explosion? Not really. The milkshake scene? Comically bad, honestly, seeing DDL limp/run like his leg was full of rot looked ridiculous. Listening to him yelling about he drank the guys milkshake was so dumb. To end, it wasn't entertaining and not interesting. Not trying to be a cunt here but honestly, tell me what was good/you liked about the movie. I see people say day Lewis is the GOAT actor and I think it's ridiculous, he's terrible in this. Cinematography is far from something special in this, I didn't like the soundtrack, acting was sub-par, story was boring.
@duffman18
@duffman18 6 жыл бұрын
Colin Breland I've never liked DDL either. He plays every character exactly the same, and never really captures your imagination like say Al Pacino in the godfather part 1 and 2
@Bacnow
@Bacnow 4 жыл бұрын
I think Clint Eastwood has a total mastery of voice that rivals or exceeds John Waynes
@jamescaban7710
@jamescaban7710 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Clint Eastwood speaks in the 3rd tonal value, with that slight slurring in his throat he sounds like he means Business...
@thalastkg
@thalastkg 4 жыл бұрын
True!
@BenJaminLongTime
@BenJaminLongTime 3 жыл бұрын
There Will be Blood is a masterpiece. All of the actors involved were no small part, and the writing and camera work sound, etc. all very very well executed.
@lukebauer5495
@lukebauer5495 5 жыл бұрын
So, it seems there is a clear shift in meaning of the word "vocal control" throughout this video. It starts out sounding like "vocal control" refers to the ability to control one's vocal range and tenor, while later in the analysis of There will be Blood vocal control basicall means "having the floor" or "steering the narrative or flow of conversation". It's as if the notion of vocal control, which to me seems to be relatively specific regarding vocal range and tone, breathiness or not, etc., is touched on briefly only to turn the topic of the video into something else, which really is not about vocal control at all. While the remarks about the camera are astute, they seem to subtly undermine the importance of "vocal" control. Seemed like an interesting video but all in all it seemed really confused about what it was trying to say. At the very end, "vocal control" means "not losing one's temper". Just feels like a cheap usage of the word vocal control in three ways without even distinguishing. Controlling your vocal range, tone, accent, etc. Using your voice to control things Controlling your voice by controlling your temper Quite disappointed. Postmodern reference in the first few minutes but has no commitment to defining its own terms :(
@banino9295
@banino9295 5 жыл бұрын
Vocal control isn't an expression, it's only meaning is what the words provide, "vocal" and "control": control through voice; whether it refers to a charismatic trait or a movie direction technique depends on the context
@wtfpwnz0red
@wtfpwnz0red 5 жыл бұрын
It's both, though. You can't control anything if you can't control yourself. The voice is a powerful instrument in interacting with others, exercising autonomy, and in influencing those around you. Great orators don't just magically influence people, and it's not always their ideas that win over crowds. The commonality is that they know how to connect using voice as their tool. It takes practice to master any tool.
@therantingboy
@therantingboy 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. The essayist appears to be giving the actor credit for decisions that are made by the director. The actor doesn't "control" a voice being heard before they're seen, the director and editor do. Day Lewis doesn't "control" when the camera stops, the director does. Day Lewis doesn't control who or when he speaks, the writer does. Annoying because a video about tone of voice is an interesting concept.
@lukebauer5495
@lukebauer5495 5 жыл бұрын
@@therantingboy Yeah, it seems as if the analysis is ok with just blending all these terms together. Quite disappointing. As for the other two responses....yes, by definition of the word "expression", it is indeed an "expression" via the definition: "a word or group of words used in a particular situation or by particular people:" as "voice control" is not really an everyday commonplace word but is more jargon. And I never said both of these things could not be involved in the creation of an aura around a character. But acting like all of these things are attributable to the actor when clearly most of these things are director/screen-writer/producer decisions, just makes it not worth taking seriously imo. And the whole analysis is presented in this post-modern kind of style, looking at how things today break the mold and undermine the way things used to be done (hence the most stereotypical examples from the past are found to show how pomo everything is now, and how absolutely genius this is). Once again, really cool idea for a video. Less than ideal execution.
@xsamuraibear947
@xsamuraibear947 5 жыл бұрын
yes well said. as many can see the person who wrote this essay went from talking about vocal control to breaking down the literal representation of the voice, and the story of there will be blood. The john wayne part isnt even necessary
@fuzzypiglet
@fuzzypiglet 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Day Lewis' acting is far superior to John Wayne's. I remember watching "The greatest story ever told" on TV as a child and Wayne is playing a roman soldier and at the point where Jesus is crucified and huge thunderstorm starts and Wayne Wayne points his sword up at Jesus and says with his awful voice/accent "Truly this man was the son of god" and it wrecks the whole scene! I'm surprised he had a sword in his hand - it could have just as easily been a shotgun and probably no one would have noticed.
@guinnesstrail
@guinnesstrail 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Graves, I disagree. John Wayne is iconographic, and the acting is brilliant. Day Lewis has range but he also has a tendency to go over the top (In The Name of the Father, Gangs of New York, The Boxer, The Crucible). Wayne is very understated but his presence lends gravitas to both acting and roles (The Quiet Man, The Searchers, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The Shootist). Therefore, superiority is relative. It’s all about the totally of the film, including mis en scene.
@noobie1890
@noobie1890 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, so didn’t they kind of spoof that scene in “Hail Caesar!” when George Clooney fucked up his line at the end??
@skepticmonkey6923
@skepticmonkey6923 4 жыл бұрын
guinnesstrail no way dude, John Wayne plays one character in all of his movies and it’s a generic one at that. DDL just transforms in to whatever character he plays.
@christiansanchez7448
@christiansanchez7448 2 жыл бұрын
@@guinnesstrail absolutely horrendous take lol
@camila____
@camila____ 6 жыл бұрын
Great essay. I started thinking about that when Tom Hardy said that finding a voice was finding a character. Even Tatiana Maslany, who played different roles in Orphan Black, can embody the clones so distintive from each other even with voice. But I've never thought about voice control as a form of power. Wow. Something to reflect on.
@rkrokberg
@rkrokberg 6 жыл бұрын
*Grunt* My name is Max *Double grunt*
@Skymarshal
@Skymarshal 6 жыл бұрын
Bane in DKR is a pretty good example of this as well. Considering we never see his mouth move when he speaks, it makes it even more of a "god-like" quality over the scene/other characters.
@CunningCondor
@CunningCondor 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Darth Vader.
@Dr170
@Dr170 6 жыл бұрын
Problem is he sounds like a drunk Welshman doing a bad Sean Connery, so unless that is your own specific conjectural voice foe a personification of an indefinable metaphysical force, any godlike authority is nonexistent.
@kathiravanganesh5618
@kathiravanganesh5618 6 жыл бұрын
Skymarshal Tom Hardy always speaks like that maybe Christin bale is good at vocals
@Skymarshal
@Skymarshal 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Hardy and Bale are two of the best actors of this generation. I think they both know what they're doing.
@killergoose7643
@killergoose7643 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how he talks. What matters is his plan.
@this-aint-no-party
@this-aint-no-party 6 жыл бұрын
you know your christmas holiday is going to be constructive when you watch a video 3 minutes after it comes out
@enotsnavdier6867
@enotsnavdier6867 5 жыл бұрын
I can't hear John Wayne's voice without laughing. I'll always associate it with his role as Genghis Khan and his voice was hilarious when he was playing a Mongol.
@cleonRIP
@cleonRIP 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched this again on Netflix. Thanks, man! Loved finding this vein of storytelling and having you confirm their tug-of-war for control in each scene 👍
@lemaxmas
@lemaxmas 6 жыл бұрын
Just some back story related to your thesis. Wayne's opening shot in "Stagecoach" was all about John Ford, the director of that film. Ford created the look, the sound and Wayne's total demeanor down to the smallest detail. He wanted Wayne to have a memorable entrance so to speak and Ford succeeded. That moment is fair more Ford's creation than Wayne's. And in a way, so is the Wayne persona more of Ford's creation than Wayne's. His best films early in his path to stardom were his collaborations with Ford. Through Ford, Wayne eventually found what worked and could bring it in varying degrees to different roles with other directors. As per his voice control, I doubt that Wayne ever gave it much thoight except in terms if the sound man could hear him. In your description of Wayne's performance you speak of it as if he were doing this all on his own, when it was totally a creation of Ford, who exercised great control over his films and was as I stated earlier creating the very impressions you note. Not Wayne but Ford. An actor like Wayne was in far less control of his instrument than a master actor like Day-Lewis. If you hear him in interviews he sounds much the same. Vocal training has really been an extremely important part of acting for hundreds of years. It existed well before the time of Stanislavky, considered the father of the method. Actors like Daniel Day Lewis are a rare example of the ghold school of acting where voice, diction, projection etc are just as important as the inner life. It was also a big part of the early talking films where many stage actors right out of that period where vocal skill was used to simulate an emotion. Excellent actors like George Arliss and later Olivier right through to Burton, Branagh and Day-Lewis have made use of this among others. I think you should shift the emphasis of control over the director. Film is a director's medium. The voice doesn't control the shot, the director allows the actor to do what they want. Altho an actor like Day-Lewis brings more to the party in invention, talent, etc. it is still the director's choices and all are under his control, unless the director is inexperienced and or new. Also, ironically Day-Lewis did an imitation of the great film director, John Huston. For some reason this was on purpose.
@grossepointemichigan760
@grossepointemichigan760 5 жыл бұрын
The director...AND the screenwriter.
@good-questions
@good-questions 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, you raise a point, but you swing the pendulum too far. If anything you kind of miss the fact that it’s a network of creativity and work. At this point you could also say (not necessarily in John Wayne’s case because i don’t know who cast him) the casting director is utterly essential for the director to even be able to get this effect with the right actor. And directors all have different methods and opinions. Eg, Quentin Tarantino had cast some people for Inglorious Basterds and even begin initial work.... but then said to his producer that he had written a role that maybe no actor could play to his satisfaction. So, clearly the role created by Tarantino matters, but so did the other puzzle pieces.
@good-questions
@good-questions 5 жыл бұрын
Christoph Waltz, that is. Also, now that I’ve finished the section on Wayne I totally see what you mean about the points the video raises.
@saber-jocky3436
@saber-jocky3436 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating words coming from someone who would never measure up to the Duke. I believe you have some deep fantasy for Lewis. All that praise, and for what? You are quick to site his excellence as an actor and not credit his director but insist that the Duke was entirely made by the director. I wonder, do you often double standard things in your life?
@morgianehamadou6034
@morgianehamadou6034 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but I was going to make the same point about the screenwriter actually. That's the person who creates the character in the first place.
@georgiethumbs2438
@georgiethumbs2438 6 жыл бұрын
"That'll be the day"...That's from the movie "The Searchers" which Buddy Holly saw in the movie theater and that's how he got the idea for the song
@nmarbletoe8210
@nmarbletoe8210 4 жыл бұрын
very cool trivia
@bgezal
@bgezal 6 жыл бұрын
Too little is credited John Wayne's script writers. Talking like John was probably a lot of hard work for the writers.
@anunexaminedlife1207
@anunexaminedlife1207 6 жыл бұрын
tf are you talking about 😂
@LiamHagan
@LiamHagan 6 жыл бұрын
They're saying that those scripts were probably written that way because John Wayne had such a limited range. It was less about what John Wayne could do with a script, and more about what a script could do with John Wayne.
@ZiplineShazam
@ZiplineShazam 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, John Wayne could only talk like "John Wayne". . . .I don't understand why people consider him to be a good actor. He was mediocre at best.
@bgezal
@bgezal 6 жыл бұрын
I was born while John was still doing movies and this is all about if John delivered concise quotable one-liners it wasn't because of his talent but the writer's and he just delivered them in his style, which the writer's obviously wrote for. If any of his lines were ad-libbed by himself just let me know.
@ZiplineShazam
@ZiplineShazam 6 жыл бұрын
Unexamined, "You don't pay a movie star top dollar to ACT like someone else" ?!?!? What in the hell kind of cough syrup have you been drinking ?!? What do you think "movie stars" are paid to do ?? They are paid to ACT !!! That is what it means to be an actor. . .an actor portrays "someone else" . . .otherwise it wouldn't be acting. Now, there are really good actors like Daniel Day Lewis who have the ability and talent to play multiple characters (aka "someone else") but then you have mediocre actors like John Wayne who just play "themselves" over and over and over again because they have a certain Shtick that gives them some kind of appeal.
@unhallowedosrs
@unhallowedosrs 4 жыл бұрын
I still love this film so much. It deserves more praise and awareness. Long, well written films just don't sell with people's low attention span, sadly. Daniel Day Lewis is excellent.
@mz610
@mz610 5 жыл бұрын
the "vocal" part was very confusing but i enjoyed the thematic/story breakdown. that was good.
@MinaF99
@MinaF99 6 жыл бұрын
I fully approve of the birdcage used in this video
@RobiticDuck
@RobiticDuck 6 жыл бұрын
Mina F The Birdcage! That movie is so good
@markant9534
@markant9534 6 жыл бұрын
There were rumours of John Wayne being gay! So maybe Robin Williams was really playing Wayne in this scene! lol!
@DaygoG
@DaygoG 6 жыл бұрын
Your last name is Foohoorar is it?
@NikkiMKarLen
@NikkiMKarLen 6 жыл бұрын
Smear. Men smear.
@lucidexistance1
@lucidexistance1 6 жыл бұрын
I drink your milk shake! *SHHHLLLLUUUUURRRRPP*
@mr.nobody2485
@mr.nobody2485 6 жыл бұрын
Goldyray Yeazle I DRINK IT UP!
@dam-hu5dh
@dam-hu5dh 6 жыл бұрын
I'm an oil man see?
@jamesgabany1
@jamesgabany1 6 жыл бұрын
DRAAAAINAGE!
@idrinkmilk282
@idrinkmilk282 6 жыл бұрын
If he doesnt i will
@michaelolson7626
@michaelolson7626 6 жыл бұрын
This is a masterful video. I have seen a LOT of videos on There Will Be Blood. There's a lot to say about it. But this is the first time I've seen a lot of these insights. Thank you. The intro reminds me of the word Laconic. Which means saying much in as few words as possible. The spartans, or Lacedaemonians were so refined at this art that today we call such speech Laconic, which is very John Wayne/Clint Eastwood. When Philip of Mastedon wrote to the king of Sparta "If I enter Laconia, I will raze Sparta to the ground," The Spartans simply responded "If."
@LupeJustinian
@LupeJustinian 6 жыл бұрын
Darren Foley's got an essay highlighting these points on vimeo
@adexuna6155
@adexuna6155 6 жыл бұрын
You mean laconic?
@SICKDOAPNIXON
@SICKDOAPNIXON 6 жыл бұрын
Lacan-esque
@sheltr9735
@sheltr9735 6 жыл бұрын
A fine comment. However, I presume you were referring to Philip of Macedon / Macedonia.
@FloppsEB
@FloppsEB 4 жыл бұрын
this is simply one of the finest video essays on film i have ever seen. congratulations, and thank you for it.
@johnguilfoyle3073
@johnguilfoyle3073 5 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: John Wayne's line "That'll be the day." from The Searchers (Great movie!) was the inspiration for the 1950's song "That'll Be The Day When I Die".
@orsonwelles4254
@orsonwelles4254 6 жыл бұрын
"Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?"
@fabianmorales2280
@fabianmorales2280 6 жыл бұрын
Who said that? WHO THE FUCK SAID THAT?
@yuothineyesasian
@yuothineyesasian 6 жыл бұрын
Watch the version of that scene where they replace the voices with Disney characters. It's gold.
@orsonwelles4254
@orsonwelles4254 6 жыл бұрын
I saw that
@haydenbarnes5110
@haydenbarnes5110 6 жыл бұрын
If I weren't a large cheese I'd make you pay for that remark
@zarlus8
@zarlus8 6 жыл бұрын
Lol! I'm so glad you wrote this. Fabian Morales I'm so glad you responded.
@ralphparker4757
@ralphparker4757 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus, there is so much stuff in here that I would've never considered. I've seen There Will Be Blood like 3 times but I never really noticed the importance of Day-Lewis' use of vocals in the film. Fantastic video as usual, good sir.
@TheStockwell
@TheStockwell 6 жыл бұрын
Something that's almost never pointed out: Day-Lewis's accent is not much more than him doing an impression of the American filmmaker and actor, John Houston. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3vIopx5lLWer7s
@zeetstweets
@zeetstweets 6 жыл бұрын
there will be blood: favorite movie of all time
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 6 жыл бұрын
Papi Chulo - Best performance In a film ever as well. DDL is the GOAT.
@uremawifenowdave
@uremawifenowdave 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with both of you. It saddens me that DDL feels that he has nothing left to give acting and has announced his retirement. No matter what film he’s in, whither he’s the main character or not, he always dominates through the quality of his acting.
@CLASSICALFAN100
@CLASSICALFAN100 5 жыл бұрын
I remember MAD magazine that used to make fun of movies. For this one, they would have probably entitled the satire, "There Will be Idiots", or something like that. Here's the 1st page of their take-off on the old super-corny TV show, "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" : www.vttbots.com/mad_1.html
@dailytimes6787
@dailytimes6787 5 жыл бұрын
Uremawife Nowdave Daniel day Lewis is highly overrated. I would go as far as saying he is legitimately bad
@robspear03
@robspear03 5 жыл бұрын
@@dailytimes6787 Your trolling needs work. Youd have been better off arguing that John Wayne was overrated instead. Youll get there. As you get older, youll get experience.
@ECL28E
@ECL28E 5 жыл бұрын
"Never apologize. It's a sign of weakness" *rolls eyes so hard, they fall into the back of my head and rattle around like in a pachinko machine*
@jeffeldredge1608
@jeffeldredge1608 Жыл бұрын
Everything Daniel has done? is just the maximum effort by the artist to portray his character in every aspect. Who else holds a candle to this man? Very few actors come close.
@whiteowl87
@whiteowl87 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never caught Eli's method. Paul Dano did a vow of silence in Little Miss Sunshine, so this makes it extraordinary.
@whateveritsnoyes
@whateveritsnoyes 6 жыл бұрын
Not to take anything away from DDL, but PTA specifically told him to ‘watch John Huston interviews’ to get the voice down for Daniel Plainview in pre-production. Now go watch a John Huston interview and get your mind blown. It’s to a tee.
@emilymatson9749
@emilymatson9749 6 жыл бұрын
I actually love your videos you ignited my passion for movies again and enabled me to watch them in a whole new light! I’d love it for you to analyse movies like Garden of Words or 5cm per Second I know they are anime but there’s a lot of deep meaning in them and they are very technical
@phyrr2
@phyrr2 5 жыл бұрын
Voice actors are rarely credited for the amazing work they do. They're actors just the same, and they lure us into virtual worlds that would utterly fail without them. Mel Blanc, Rob Paulsen, Dave Fennoy, Michael Gould...
@16Willmanutd
@16Willmanutd 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best movies ever made. Daniel Day Lewis is freaking amazing in this film and also the music in this film just sets the tone so well.
@jaseneffendy17
@jaseneffendy17 6 жыл бұрын
Analysis on Cliché in movies?
@nowhereman6019
@nowhereman6019 6 жыл бұрын
Cliques are cliques for a reason: they work.
@gnalkhere
@gnalkhere 6 жыл бұрын
and on that note, first=/=better, but they can be the same
@JWinterhaven
@JWinterhaven 6 жыл бұрын
Jasen Effendy cliché or tropes?
@tf5500
@tf5500 6 жыл бұрын
Jasen Effendy Do you have an instagram account so we can talk about movies
@betatester03
@betatester03 5 жыл бұрын
That's a tough one. A cliche might not have been a cliche when a movie was released. People who are watching Seinfeld for the first time will often criticize it for rampant use of cliches without realizing that what they're often seeing is the root of the cliche -- the origin that worked so well others were compelled to emulate it.
@geeess9436
@geeess9436 3 жыл бұрын
I watched There Will Be Blood recently and thought it was a great piece of cinema. Day-Lewis and Dano both put on exceptional performances.
@hardliketissues7463
@hardliketissues7463 2 жыл бұрын
Paul Dano is one of my favorite underrated actors ever. There will be blood, prisoners, and little miss sunshine are all fantastic performances by him.
@evergray5063
@evergray5063 Жыл бұрын
Prisoners... great movie, but even as a person who likes so-called ‘gritty’, realistic entertainment (No Country for Old Men, Breaking Bad, There Will be Blood, Alpha Dog, etc) and who completely loathes the MCU, even for me, Prisoners is SO DARK and dreary, it’s hard to rewatch. The only movie I liked but just refuse to ever watch again is Requiem for a Dream; it’s a good movie, I liked the quick, erratic cuts, but it’s just ... idk, like, ONCE is ENOUGH. This sort of dirty feeling you get from watching it is not something I want to experience again. Nearly the same with Prisoners. Absolutely GREAT performances for all involved; Jackman is spectacular and, more importantly, BELIEVABLE as the father so overwhelmed with grief that is will do literally ANYTHING to find her. The lady, the real abductor, I don’t remember her name, is exceptional as well. But Dano... probably one of the reasons I don’t rewatch it more, he’s so good in convincing as the suuuuper creep haha. His voice, his mannerisms, his movements, everything. Same for the other creep guy (Forget his name also, but he was one of the jokers henchmen in dark knight) who has the fake graves and snakes. Soooo creepy. Again, GREAT movie, and right up my alley in terms of genre, it’s just almost TOO realistically dark and haunting to watch on a regular basis
@evergray5063
@evergray5063 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you have seen it, but there is another movie he is in with Daniel Radcliffe called “swiss army man”... not realistic at all, the total opposite actually; it’s not the sort of movie I would typically like, but it’s just so weird and original, very creative. Check it out if you’ve never seen it
@jiboia17
@jiboia17 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I have seen on KZbin. Congratulations from Portugal!
@pj9259
@pj9259 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Lewis was fucking amazing in there will be blood. As good as it gets. People rate his performance as Lincoln but his performance as Daniel Plainview was the peak of his career imo and I cant see anyone topping it. The man is a genius at his art form.
@ClearCritique
@ClearCritique 6 жыл бұрын
This is the first review I've seen on your channel. Well done, dude.
@summerw.1425
@summerw.1425 6 жыл бұрын
All of his video essays are really good theyre worth a binge watch. You'll lose track of time theyre so good.
@patrickharrison8185
@patrickharrison8185 6 жыл бұрын
There Will Be Blood is a commentary on power and dominance. Vocal control is just a means of extending your sphere of influence; TV framing and techniques merely manipulate the audience's perception of its subjects.
@memowilliam9889
@memowilliam9889 5 жыл бұрын
Patrick Harrison I believe it’s specifically a social commentary on capitalist greed vs religious hypocrisy. How each use each other to further their own agendas. TWBB is not so much a hint at the death of Eli but rather a looming reconciliation owed to God - who detests greed and hypocrisy. Blood for blood. There will be blood.
@jamescaban7710
@jamescaban7710 4 жыл бұрын
@@memowilliam9889 most excellent observation power and control over capitalism versus fundamental Christian beliefs
@matsab7930
@matsab7930 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Harrison I feel like this is obvious. Of course the way a movie is filmed influences how people view it, that’s sort of a moot point.
@Uriel.Cinema
@Uriel.Cinema 6 жыл бұрын
Your starting too really get into unique video essay topics, continue the great work!
@alekszen92
@alekszen92 6 жыл бұрын
You're*
@brucegirdlestone8516
@brucegirdlestone8516 6 жыл бұрын
You are...
@dj_poopypants
@dj_poopypants 6 жыл бұрын
His vocals are fucking annoying... I feel like smashing his head in with a baseball bat.
@elmoblatch9787
@elmoblatch9787 6 жыл бұрын
You're
@staxter6
@staxter6 6 жыл бұрын
to...
@dwdelcourt3294
@dwdelcourt3294 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you explained John Wane as the fantasy version of the male control narrative and then contrasted it with TWBB as the more realistic version of that narrative. I wasn't sure if it was going to tie together, but it totally did!
@chriszablocki2460
@chriszablocki2460 4 жыл бұрын
"I drink your milkshake" (dude immediately back chokes him to death) "hard to drink milkshakes when you're dead..."
@Yaarrr
@Yaarrr 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite movie of all time
@NotQuiteFirst
@NotQuiteFirst 6 жыл бұрын
The Birdcage?
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 6 жыл бұрын
TWBB. Perfect film.
@jeffjeeef3565
@jeffjeeef3565 6 жыл бұрын
Nopetorious D.I.C. me too fam
@Yodavid1
@Yodavid1 6 жыл бұрын
i think that in 15 years, this movie will get the actual attention it deserves
@CineRanter
@CineRanter 6 жыл бұрын
This film was incredible
@lordkanti8260
@lordkanti8260 4 жыл бұрын
The title of your channel is genius in tune with its content. Great stuff
@ChuckHenebry
@ChuckHenebry 6 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, and excellent selection of clips. But I wish you didn't stretch the 4x3 aspect of the older movies to fit the 16x9 KZbin viewer. It makes John Wayne look weird.
@simonfive1874
@simonfive1874 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel is a god amongst men, legendary actor.
@TenThumbsProductions
@TenThumbsProductions 6 жыл бұрын
So good. Great work.
@arnav6808
@arnav6808 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite Ukulele Teacher watches Video Essays! That's great!
@LuisSierra42
@LuisSierra42 3 жыл бұрын
I drink your milkshake
@Demonator27
@Demonator27 5 жыл бұрын
Exceptional video about my hands-down favourite movie of all time. Thanks for making this!
@lukebrog3702
@lukebrog3702 6 жыл бұрын
That was mind blowing. I'd be fascinated to know how you notice such subtle things/process of analyzing movies. You definitely have a talent
@sakshivora4805
@sakshivora4805 6 жыл бұрын
I just realised something........ Daniel Day Lewis' actual voice is unknown.....
@tialatunna
@tialatunna 6 жыл бұрын
It's known, you can hear it in interviewes. Surpisingly unpleasant (in my opinion)
@Technodook93
@Technodook93 6 жыл бұрын
he pretty much uses his regular voice in Phantom Thread if you haven't seen that yet
@gillri
@gillri 5 жыл бұрын
Its quite a calming middle class English accent
@brokenwave6125
@brokenwave6125 5 жыл бұрын
No its not...
@murdockfiles9406
@murdockfiles9406 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think you give Red River enough credit. John Wayne utilized his masculinity to a consequential degree in Red River. His confidence and masculinity actually fails him. He doesn't get what he wants by the end of Red River, he abides by his surrogate son's achievements which were always a contradiction of his own goals. His masculinity actually masked his love for his surrogate son, only resolved in the ending when he admitted defeat to him.
@CLASSICALFAN100
@CLASSICALFAN100 5 жыл бұрын
Red River had 1 message: *NOBODY* can ignore tremendous stress. It takes its toll, no matter who you are. Sooner or later, it will collect its "pound of flesh"...
@jtoland2333
@jtoland2333 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, John Wayne became friends with Wyatt Earp. He patterned his walk, mannerisms and his voice on the lawman.
@valkeriejones3818
@valkeriejones3818 5 жыл бұрын
Just saw this movie for the first time. Daniel Plainview is one of the best characters I've ever seen. Complex and dyanamic, he shows his true colors as the film progresses.
@Elrond_Hubbard_1
@Elrond_Hubbard_1 4 жыл бұрын
This video brings up an interesting point about how voices command attention in film, but I think a more interesting thing is how this same method works in real life. It's a huge simplification to just say 'talk with confidence', but there are ways I've found with how you use inflection and timing with what you say to make people listen.
@MarkArandjus
@MarkArandjus 6 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm bothered when Bruce Wayne (the real one, not the playboy facade) is portrayed as a nice dude in the films. In reality someone so powerful and so obsessed with control would be a very difficult person to be around, even if they weren't malicious or self-serving. It's telling that the guy he gets along with the most is a professional servant :D
@Karl_vulture
@Karl_vulture 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Arandjus I always thought the Keaton take was better for this reason. Whenever he’s Bruce he always feels a little off, like he’s almost uncomfortable in his own skin. Bale’s version has too much on the nose exposition but portrays zero subtext.
@IamHueGraves
@IamHueGraves 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was pretty clear that he was a difficult person since, as you said, a professional servant is the only person that ever hangs with him for more than 10 minutes. He's a good dude, but people definitely don't like him (assuming he ever even acts like himself or knows how to).
@brokenwave6125
@brokenwave6125 5 жыл бұрын
Nice...and difficult to be around...aren't mutual exclusive. So you have no point. Not to mention...Bruce isn't depicted as being nice to be around. The only people he spends personal time with in the Nolan films are his butler and someone he's known since he was a kid. That's it. He spends some time with Gordon and Fox but that's Batman business. They aren't just hanging out. None of that points to "Wow, he's a really great guy that everyone wants to hang out with"
@aviewofyou2641
@aviewofyou2641 6 жыл бұрын
There are actors who have distinctive and compelling voices and personas: John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Bruce Willis, Vin Diesel. You know what you're going to get from them in their movies but the larger movie itself can be great and they can be convincing in their roles. Then there are actors who play a wide range of characters and transform their voices and mannerisms to fit the role: Daniel Day Lewis, Meryl Streep, Dustin Hoffman, Tom Hanks, Laurence Olivier. These actors are in a different league altogether and I don't think John Wayne would argue the point. I would not call what John Wayne does vocal control. It's his voice with a little added flair. What DDL and Meryl Streep do is real vocal control in the service of legendary performances.
@jackofsuit
@jackofsuit 6 жыл бұрын
Good and insightful. However, the answer cannot be that dominance hierarchies are bad. I think the point of older movies was to show an ideal of a good man in charge. The point of the 'There Will Be Blood' is to show a pathological dominance. Being strong is not wrong--only the desire that no one else succeed. So they are addressing the same issue from different angles.
@TheMGIvideos
@TheMGIvideos 3 жыл бұрын
There Will Be Blood comes from a novel written by an anarchist and you think dominance hierarchies are bad isn't the point?
@Colin-kh6kp
@Colin-kh6kp 4 жыл бұрын
DDL as Daniel Plainview is the greatest performance I’ve ever seen.
@multiestonian
@multiestonian 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome work, i enjoyed this.
@nixdaddio
@nixdaddio 6 жыл бұрын
10:00 Give me a break! Plainview is drunk. He is a truly human character in all its flawed beauty.
@bretteader6758
@bretteader6758 5 жыл бұрын
He’s a raging alcoholic. He will never not be again. His mind and body is decimated by not only that, but the years of chipping rock, breaking his back. I can’t even articulate how much the DP character means to me.
@blkwht9898
@blkwht9898 6 жыл бұрын
While the instances of vocal control you highlight do relate to interpersonal power dynamics, they are extensions rather than the source of the powerful's authority and not the only notable or necessarily even primary extensions of power to consider. Ignoring the latter while analyzing the former leads you to some tangential and incorrect claims. For instance, the power struggle between Eli and Daniel is rooted in Daniel's control of capital and labor and Eli's proxy control of the land and not in the quality of the two men's oration. It's only in the pursuit of Bandy's deed that Daniel ceded his control in the key baptism scene. Similarly, one can interpret Daniel's continual deception of the townspeople with promises of infrastructure as a reinforcement rather than qualification of his power-the town simply has no easy alternative builder to turn to. In his final conversation with HW, Daniel exhibits all the signs of vocal control that you highlight. Yet we know him here to be without power, the kind of power that ultimately matters between father and son. He is at this point affectionally bereft, living drunk in a dark empty mansion. His threat to turn HW into his competition only further highlights his lack of love and respect-an angry empty gesture to discard what he never possessed. To focus on vocal control without examining the context of its performance, then, would lead you to precisely the wrong conclusion.
@name001
@name001 6 жыл бұрын
Where does the script, editing, and directors "vision" all play into this?
@redcaddiedaddie
@redcaddiedaddie 5 жыл бұрын
... my question exactly! The narrator implies that THE ACTOR has total control over the entire scene, & although voice modulation , pacing & tone are obviously an integral part of a scene, MUCH relies on the direction, editing & the words the actor is given... a TEAM EFFORT after all, IMHO.
@stolenname94
@stolenname94 5 жыл бұрын
I actually think the direction is what brings out the actor. I do acting an extra work and almost every shoot I've been on I make myself as blank as possible then allow the script proxcemics and director paint the picture if that makes sense. I found if I went into a piece with my own ideas it often leaves the director not much creative freedom since I've already established a character. Good direction can be found just in the use of punctuation, almost everything you do as an actor is based around getting told what to do. But that don't mean you can't do the work yourself some want that and I appreciate it others don't but I have to respect the vision.
@mariaah3073
@mariaah3073 5 жыл бұрын
@@redcaddiedaddie almost everything about making a movie is a matter of team effort, but THIS video chooses to focus on performance. No one's denying the influence of other people, it's just that this time it's a 14 minutes conversation about actors and their vocal capacities applied to narratives.
@brokenwave6125
@brokenwave6125 5 жыл бұрын
@@redcaddiedaddie He was referring to the character.... Which is a summation of efforts between the actor, writer, director etc... He focused mostly on the actors role because ultimately that's the person who is actually speaking.
@redcaddiedaddie
@redcaddiedaddie 5 жыл бұрын
@@brokenwave6125 OK...
@SwazNasty
@SwazNasty 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Dano showed he can act with the best in this movie. There will be blood is absolutely in my top 5 all time fav, Daniel Day is in my top 5 of actors, but the fact that Paul could keep up with DDL this early in his career really says alot. Such a good movie.
@GraemeGames
@GraemeGames 5 жыл бұрын
Instant subscribe. Such a cool video! Great work dude. I can't wait to dig much deeper into this channel!
@DestroyerX61
@DestroyerX61 6 жыл бұрын
look up gary oldman's EVERYONE for a real lesson in vocal control
@mdnblues
@mdnblues 4 жыл бұрын
Gary Oldman is so underrated it's crazy.
@ppvk2610
@ppvk2610 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed talk about vocal control.. Drexl? Anyone?... then.. Korshunov?... Zorg?... Dracula, Beethoven, lee Harvey Oswald, Churchill....?! Comm.Gordon, Sirius Black All in a different voice... Best immo...
@WillIsWellGood
@WillIsWellGood 6 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely fantastic video essay; interesting and entertaining and Illuminating. And it simultaneously addresses techniques of film *and* the sociological concepts of masculinity and control. One of the best videos I’ve seen on KZbin ever - thank you.
@peterpetruzzi
@peterpetruzzi 6 жыл бұрын
2:07 - 2:13 I laughed out loud seeing that death stare out of context
@normanmans3477
@normanmans3477 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! A KZbinr commenting on Actors playing with multiple roles in movies. I am so surprised you are not actually playing in any films yourself. Well done! Bravo!
@TheGatesOfFire
@TheGatesOfFire 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think that you can know for a fact that the actors actually planned to do what you are stating. You can only analyse the effect.
@StewartFletcher
@StewartFletcher 6 жыл бұрын
Double D Lewis gives probably the greatest performance in this movie I've ever seen
@withnail-and-i
@withnail-and-i 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's too obvious that it's a performance, that it's Daniel Day Lewis "doing some perfect acting". If you want a movie where he acts more natural, so much that you really believe that it's actually a documentary on the character, go see My Left Foot. By far my favorite performance of his. Also In the Name of the Father, the only time he was ever outshined by another actor. One of his best.
@glircom
@glircom 6 жыл бұрын
For some reason I noticed in particular the way his thumb moves while he's "christening" the well. It's such a small, idiosyncratic sort of movement, but it perfectly conveys the sort of nervous energy that drives him. It's a barely perceptible loss of control - maybe even a sort of preview of what is to come. 12:54
@StewartFletcher
@StewartFletcher 6 жыл бұрын
And I. I think he's phenomenal in this film. For the longest time I thought he was so overrated but then after actually watching some of his movies, I was sold. In Gangs of New York he gives perhaps the best villain performance of the century.
@withnail-and-i
@withnail-and-i 6 жыл бұрын
Stewart Fletcher Don't get me wrong, I've seen literally all of his movies (even the awful 'Nine') . But in the two movies I mentioned he gave it his best in my opinion. Have you seen them? Left Foot got him his first Oscar. I do not think any of his performances are overrated, although I think Joaquin Phoenix in the Master deserved the Oscar over his Lincoln win. Also The Unbearable Lightness of Being, so underrated.
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 6 жыл бұрын
I was in awe the first time I seen TWBB. His acting blew me away.
@holy_braille
@holy_braille 4 жыл бұрын
A buddy of mine in college was having some people over and asked to borrow a film. I lent him "There Will Be Blood." He returns it once they all leave and goes "what the f*** was that? Nobody even talks for like 30 minutes." I tell him "you asked to borrow a film. I gave you one of the best films ever made. You want words, go to a play."
@skepticmonkey6923
@skepticmonkey6923 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Sams I mean, there’s movies you watch alone and movies you watch when your friends come over, TWBB is for the former occasion.
@rogerpaips9701
@rogerpaips9701 3 жыл бұрын
@@skepticmonkey6923 o couldnt agree more, this is definitely not the movie you want to watch with a pack of friends. i experienced that and its the most awful thing ever when you watch a masterpiece movie the most insane scenes are happening and your stupid friends are talking about potato chips they are eating. FUCK THAT.
@giantn0va
@giantn0va 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I recently watched this movie and was amazed, this video brings a whole new depth to it that I didn't realize before. This movie is even higher in my favorites list now. Very informative, thank you!
@claudegray2759
@claudegray2759 6 жыл бұрын
Second time watching this, there is a lot you didn't touch on, because you, of course, have a time limit and also need to stick to one topic, but while thinking about this essay I realized so many hidden dimensions of There Will Be Blood. An all-time favorite of mine, and now in maybe even higher on the list.
@petergugganig3225
@petergugganig3225 6 жыл бұрын
When your ad is mid video it really takes out the flow. Maybe you could put it at the beginning.
@SICKDOAPNIXON
@SICKDOAPNIXON 6 жыл бұрын
how do you live without adblock on youtube? also the ad is in the end and part of the video the _first 700 people to click the link part_ is disgusting
@GermanSnipe14
@GermanSnipe14 6 жыл бұрын
"He even controls the camera. When he moves, it moves." If that didn't happen, camera wouldn't be tracking him anymore and he'd be off frame lmao
@xthebumpx
@xthebumpx 6 жыл бұрын
The point is he's the one the camera is tracking and not someone else.
@dildonius
@dildonius 6 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzypiglet no, it's just that you apparently don't understand cinematography and the concept of mise-en-scène
@idonotdraw
@idonotdraw 6 жыл бұрын
You could still hear him outside the frame, and that would give off a different idea cinematically about the character. So, by having the camera follow, he's in control.
@carlosmarte428
@carlosmarte428 6 жыл бұрын
Pietro Guglielmi Call me a simpleton, but it's fascinating to see the meaning people derive from even the slightest things...to me the camera was following him because he was speaking haha. I would have never thought of this.
@idonotdraw
@idonotdraw 6 жыл бұрын
@@carlosmarte428 if done well, you never notice! :) I'm studying cinematography and all it changes for me is just being able to point at shots and make barely educated guesses. Things are really damn hard to spot the first time you watch a movie though, there's a little too much to take in all at once to read through the lines. It gets easier every rewatch.
@AlphaMachina
@AlphaMachina 5 жыл бұрын
Unless I'm missing something, I tend to disagree with what you're saying. You say he loses vocal control, he loses mastery of the scene because he yells, speaks erratically, and engages in what one might call "silly walks", but that was the intention here, so it wasn't a loss of mastery, but a mastery of what was intended, as it was all done quite well. His vocal control, his silly walk, his drooling and insanity were all intended to incite revulsion and anxiousness in the audience. You can't consider something a loss when it succeeds in what it intended.
@markparkinson6947
@markparkinson6947 3 жыл бұрын
Saying that apologising is a sign of weakness is like what the video said; it’s unrealistic and dangerous, and can be detrimental to resolving conflict and improving relationships.
@MrJfizzle11233
@MrJfizzle11233 3 жыл бұрын
This video is great. I always come back here every now and then.
@CH1EFBL1TZ
@CH1EFBL1TZ 6 жыл бұрын
There Will Be Blood is simply my favorite movie of all time, next to The Fellowship of the Ring.
@jdarling5315
@jdarling5315 4 жыл бұрын
so really it's your second favorite movie of all time
@juriepica1174
@juriepica1174 6 жыл бұрын
Good Job :) and happy holidays
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