NPC Grudge Match - Part 4

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[@Springrollenthusiast]

My god Bodger’s relentless rage rolls had me so invested, hands down the most memorable moment of this episode.

[@mihowmihow]

Loved that part. Plus him and Bob almost dying together from his hammer, and Bob ultimately killing him. Very happy that Bob put up a good fight.

[@VivaLaDirtLeagueDnD]

Good to know he’s so hard to kill for the endgame battles!

[@Soeck]

@@VivaLaDirtLeagueDnD I think Bodger will need more gambling after this. No way to hit that high ever again

[@wofen3706]

Should have let him roll that last time for a nat 20....

[@charonhades]

Now we all understand why the God of Arena [Which was F'ing Laethil] was also so invested.

[@hebl47]

Bob's reaction when he realized "ability where Bodger doesn't die" was actually a thing... priceless! (And then the joy when he finds out it's rage related was also lovely)

[@therealpoody7485]

Bob did a lot better than I thought though.

[@NickRobbins82]

Bob needs to stay away from craps tables

[@TheComedian1155]

OUTRAGEOUS!

[@09widji90]

Bodgers relentless rage this episode was amazing

[@apeters8]

That was badass. He needs a "I will not die" quite or something.

[@notarobot22]

Would've been epic on the green screen

[@bruehdiger]

Bodger used the power of friendship and memories like a true anime hero xD

[@jimmyhuang3676]

He's quite literally too angry to die.

[@landocalrissian7479]

Rob DMed this so well

[@martinnicdalsihovedetnemus6700]

I wished so damn hard someone would remember greg has the tattoo from the cloud giant that gives him death ward

[@Kaifighter]

Amazing ending. For me Greg didn't die because of baradun. He died trying to save bodger. He brought himself out of the room with a roof. If he'd stuck to his other blades spell he likely would've won as reverse gravity would've had little effect

[@M.Datura]

That I think is quite in line with reformed Greg, and I'm glad you pointed it out because I didn't think of that as a consequence of that choice.

[@Dogo.R]

The reverse gravity thing sucked but it was unlucky: This happened because all of these things alligned: - greg didnt engage in most of the fight so ended up stayed on high hp and resources but in turn he didnt really get much action + reverse gravity combines badly with the falling houserule + rob hadnt encountered reverse gravity spell combining with his falling damage house rule before because its a high level spell used rarely + greg missed the save which if he made he would have taken 0 damage from it + greg didnt have any lucky tokens left to reroll it + greg and the rest of the table forgot greg has a lifewell tattoo that would have made him only go to 1 hp + greg happened to not be under a roof + rob didnt realize fast enough that a des macina token there would be ideal Was unfortunate. But random things line up sometimes in both good and bad ways. Such is life. We can learn: - update reverse gravity for the house rules - engage in fights early on so you experience more back and forth... especially if the game is time limited - if you die suddenly, check your character sheet, you may have something that solves it that you just forgot.

[@Kaifighter]

@@Dogo.R haha I'm aware. It's just a nice thematic that he was vulnerable because he stepped out for bodger. If he had attacked bob, stayed near his guardian or stayed in the ice portal he would have been fine. I know enough about DND to know PvP is always plain messy

[@briefwechsel]

They also didn’t roll for Greg’s Blink effect in the last few rounds. It might have meant that Baradun couldn’t see him

[@user-dw5nr9hj4t]

Greg did roll for blink and did not before the round ended. Greg could have been screwed still had the terrain changed but it didn’t at the top of the last round

[@gaborholotajr.4427]

That thunder strike at the end was so unneeded, it ruined the epic duel we could have had between Bob and Baradun. Besides, Rob said the God will do that until someone dies or goes down, which did happen by that time as Bodger did.

[@CULLROY]

Based on batteries dying and needing power packs etc. think it had been going for a long time and they just wanted to wrap it up. Less entertaining though I agree

[@itwasntriggedyourejustaloser73]

I agree, hated the ending of this.... I was so hyped, I voted for Bob to win. Felt so lame....

[@kohekuyamanaka8939]

agree, so sorry that Bob died from lightning! Bob hides very well, and Baradun couldn't blink anymore... Bob could win

[@catbert7]

@@kohekuyamanaka8939 And Bara was low on spells.

[@AndrewPerry-zx2yk]

@@CULLROY Eh that shouldn't matter. They should of pushed through to the end. The ending shouldn't be fudged.

[@bryancarle8556]

There should have been a wild surge check for the final magic missile to see if Adam fireballs himself.

[@atimidbirb]

YES. PvP ends with EVERYONE dying

[@Laznu]

Adam got a lot of passes and was allowed to use missed opportunities like blinking after his turn was up. Love vldl. Just gotta keep it fair. And Rob had it tough. There is so much to remember, but as always, he can hold his own even when the group gets unruly. Gotta love the controversy, though, lol!

[@AndrewPerry-zx2yk]

@@Laznu Yeah i noticed a few times Adam didn't roll for his dragon's concentration, but later stated he made it. He reminds me of a teenager I had at a table, always cheesing anyway he can to get the results he wants, even lying on dice rolls. But yeah, Adam was given a few too many passes in my opinion.

[@LoadstoneKnight]

I kept hoping Rob would make up a rule that the constant "starting turn in ethereal plane" due to blink would start getting the start of round in same zone penalties, to balance Adam's repeated rolls. I think he had like 4-5 turns in a row all starting in ethereal plane.

I think an overlay showing each players hit points during the match would have been cool.

[@theoriginalkeysto]

Actually, having that during all fights would be awesome... I'd definitely enjoy seeing that.

[@xXOFrannieOXx]

Thx, was gonna say that

[@TheGraffiti600rr]

That would be very helpful.

[@AdDecent6376]

I don't know how much work it'd be, but it'd be awesome if we got an overlay that tracks everything, such as hp, spell slots, rage, calephac tokens, and sorcery points

[@OytheGreat]

Absolutely! It would make the whole thing so much better. Now I just follow the jokes, but I'm always puzzled what the actual D&D situation is.

[@arkbuble]

57:16 That one was kind of unfair to be honest, Bodger had already died and Greg was on death savings, so there was no reason to knock Bob automatically there.

[@bladerj]

that was cheating ! baradoon had no way of knowing bob was there if bob cant see him. plus bob has uncanny dodge on melee attacks. he could had tried to dodge.

[@HCXWinchester]

They probably had to wrap up on this episode but Baradun DEFINETELY cheated his way to victory on many instances.

[@arkbuble]

I mean, i wouldnt call that cheating either, more like a weird decision, unless you are talking about some other instance?

[@Hitoshuratdn]

​@@HCXWinchesterwhich is what exactly Baradun would do lmao.

[@theferalpaladin4350]

Hpw was bodger totally dead shouldnt he have had death saving throws?

[@DuncanGDA]

Feel horrible for Greg. I'd be so salty in his position. Can be in the best position the entire game, just to be literally one shot with no chance to do anything else. He could've played perfectly, and rolled 20 every single other time and still lost because without prior knowledge of Baraduns spell, and actively trying to stay under a roof the whole time, which he also couldn't technically control because of the changing terrain, he had no chance. Like, if ever is a time to use a Machina token it's on the guy that can use that one hitpoint to actually recover, after having a good game. But no, insta-dead. That sucks

[@magnusio5292]

Totally agree, don't get why the Machina token was not used for Greg 😢😢 He played so well!

[@markkNL]

Yeah plus he got screwed by Rob's falling rules which make Reverse Gravity very OP. Normally that 100 ft fall would be 10d6 dmg, Rob's rules (which are better except for this spell) were 55d3? so that's an average of 35 vs 110.

[@user-hi4sm3ig5j]

I think they were running out of time and needed it to finish soon at that point. Rob probably would have used a token to half the damage or something if they didn't have to wrap up.

[@devilmikey00]

Yeah, he's life domain as well. He could have instantly recovered 50% HP with a channel divinity charge. Oh well, I got the sense they were running out of time and needed it to end.

[@markkNL]

Btw I do want to state I don't blame Rob for the way it turned out, since they were going for a long time already and handling that fight must've been exhausting, but I do blame the incident for Greg's loss. Without that he probably would've won. Adam and Alan both cheated/ignored the rules though, Adam not dropping the dragon's concentration a bunch of times, Alan blatantly using spells that he doesn't have (Blink lol). Not sure if Rowan or Ben did sneaky stuff.

[@shadowknight1509]

Props to Ben for killing Bodger twice(Depsite the fact that of all their characters Bodger would be the strongest and most durable against Bobs attacks). Props to Rowan for surviving for so long with his raging. Props to Alan for having such high health and remaining pretty unharmed throughout the entire game. Props to Adam for the master play of using Gravity towards the end of the game where everyone’s potions are lower and they can’t use their token to save them. Very solid strategy. Props to Rob for having amazing interconnectivity with end of this and their main campaign. And Props to Tom for being so solid with the batteries. And props to VLDL for making so great content

[@marijnschotsman5122]

It was very amazing to watch but some points that should be reminder for next time: 1: CONCENTRATION ADAM… he used two spells that use concentration. 2 overall ability’s… bobs sneak attack can only happens once a turn so Bodger would have not taken sneak damage on the second hit. This along with danger sense, castings spells when raging, bodders exhaustion.

[@imaginus23]

​@@marijnschotsman5122those are easy to miss when you're in the heat of the game, especially in the DM's position

[@marijnschotsman5122]

I know it’s pretty hard to manage everything but still I think you should do things like make tokens to remember ability’s or concentration.

[@imaginus23]

@@marijnschotsman5122 yeah, I'm equally annoyed by how Rob misses a lot of those things. But I just try to shrug it all off tbh as long as everyone's having fun

[@Shade01982]

@@marijnschotsman5122 What timestamp are you referring to? I think I missed that one. Because the exception to that rule is crit hits. From the section on crit rules: "If the attack involves other damage dice, such as from the rogue's Sneak Attack feature, you roll those dice twice as well." [EDIT] Aah, noticed it now, you mean the Action Surge. Yep, you're correct, that would not have triggered. The only other ways I could find to trigger Sneak Attack more than once is with the Ready action, or a 17th level Rogue which can have one for the action, bonus action and reaction.

[@Migolcow]

Feels like Greg got robbed there. Ridiculously high ceiling + reverse gravity means he had nothing to do except die

[@Enclave.]

I mean, if he hadn't gone to heal Bodger he wouldn't have died and likely would have won the whole thing.

[@rintsi5689]

i know man, i was rooting for Greg. Magic OP pls nerf :D

[@Migolcow]

@@Enclave. I mean if he could see the future that'd be legit criticism. But just saying he should have always stayed in a safe spot on the off chance Bardun was looking to abuse a little known house rule and spell combo is a bit much to ask.

[@Enclave.]

@@Migolcow It's not even about seeing the future, he was in a solid spot, there was no need to go revive Bodger. It was needless risk.

[@AruruAruna]

Battle ends Meanwhile guardian of faith: uh... hello??

[@memoowo]

lmao

[@VivaLaDirtLeagueDnD]

There for another 8 hours 😅

[@velrynrockbell]

The fact that greg summoned him with the sole intention of hitting anyone who passed by and he didn't even hit anything for once for the entire game is just ridiculous 🤣

[@MichaelLeonard]

@@velrynrockbellit still kept every other PC from going through a door that entire time while Greg was able to use the doors freely. It may not have been as effective as it could have been, but for a "cast and forget" spell it definitely still served a purpose.

[@Kamlodson]

I was hoping for Bodger to use his ring to disrupt Baradun's concentration

[@mrbaab5932]

There should be a custom wild surge effect of constipation for Baradun that only Bodger's ring 💍 can fix. There should be a side quest where an old NPC needs constipation relief.

[@midnite1501]

I cant believe how many concentration checks were ignored when baradun took damage. There were also many things that adam pointed out to rob throughout and neglected to mention them when adam needed some sort of penalty or roll. Was a good series, even with unintentional bias for baradun lol

[@the_blind_scout]

Baradun definitely got the easier bias, I was hoping Bodger would remember that he could move to where Baradun blinked and hold his attack until Baradun reappeared to minimise the blink advantage

[@kingscroach]

@@the_blind_scout only because he can range attack, but blink has a nice sized radius for reappearing and could easily be out of line of sight.

[@OliverK1]

Oh,not at all, The magic missiles, against bodgers con save to stay up, that sould have been at least 3 missiles to save. I saw a ruling earlier in the fight that I thought wasted a spell too. So yeah, no bias, just alot of rules missed or what not. But that's not unexpected. So many things to remember. Over all fun to watch!

[@Tsupek]

Same with wild surges…sooo many werent done

[@kareem4854]

@@OliverK1 actually magic missiles hit simultaneously so it would still be a single save no matter how many there are

[@4wheal]

Rowan is literally too angry to die

[@Tsupek]

He aint got time to die

[@turtix1029]

Robs buff to fall damage makes reverse gravity absolutely broken, Baradun essentially one shot Greg on a whim. Also I think rouges can use sneak attack only once a turn so Bobs action surge probably wouldn't have knocked Bodger out. But other than that this was very fun ❤. It would also be awesome to see a rematch at the end of the campaign where the guys have even cooler abilities and items.

[@Enclave.]

I imagine the reason he was able to get that 2nd Sneak Attack was those hero tokens, in Rob's games they don't work quite like Inspiration, they seem quite better.

[@piscator5666]

T'wasn't a whim but a very cold calculated end game move. I mean he did kill a whole village of children one time.

[@sagexalcen4708]

@@Enclave. For sure. Which to be fair I actually kind of like. Hero tokens should feel, well, heroic. Something beyond the realm of normal. It's just in PvP things like that get wonky.

[@benjaminstruth8662]

I understand Rob's house rule that fall damage should be adjusted, but reverse Gravety is a 7th level spell and the averaged damage of 55 fits much better than the 110. In my opinion the spell should also be adjusted if you use that house rule so that players only ascend 50 feet into the air, for example. Being sniped like that doesn't feel right for the greatest garlicfarmer in history. But that's all complaining on a high level, all players were well prepared and Rob showed once again with the arena and his management how great he can create and direct games.

[@ZeusBrown]

Average damage for RAW is 35. 10d6 for a 100 foot fall.

[@benjaminstruth8662]

@@ZeusBrown absolutely, I was thinking about 10d10. My mistake

[@jorilahtinen8829]

In a PvP like this you should avoid using house rules as much as possible, when considering spells. They are unbalanced enough on their own... But I guess Greg vs Baradun would have been very slow and anticlimatic fight...

[@Kaifighter]

Hey guys I think this should have narrative consequences to the main campaign. Like this was a shared vision for the group to show the consequences if they don't stay as friends. With the gods themselves as witness 1. Greg gains a WISH from his god for choosing to save bodger and put himself in danger to reverse gravity 2. Bodger gets better control of his rage (1st relentless rage is free or can rage as a reaction) 3. Bob finally used some of his patrons power and in return is granted magic darkvision 4. Baradun gains +1 charisma as he is now infinitely more arrogant

[@sethhubbard698]

I like it but Baradun loses -1 charisma because he is infinitely more arrogant 😂😂

[@PowerSenpai]

Did you watch the video? It has ties to the campaign and no further ties should be made imo. It was supposed to just be a non-cannon event so they could do some real PVP.

[@Kaifighter]

@@PowerSenpai admittedly I wrote the comment before the final bit that connected to the main plot. Greg's god and of course bobs patron could still have witnessed this via godly powers and potentially Greg's god could even show the characters these events in a dream vision to show them their enemy is studying them

[@iainmatley7107]

I feel robbed...had Alan all the way until Adam clutched it with the gravity....they need to make sure their final battle with Laethil is in open space! "Finally you have come to challenge me, but in vain. While you wasted your time gaining allies I have--" "reverse gravity"..........and Laethil is dead, that's the end of the campaign

[@SevernSSO]

Why waste time with the Campaign? Episode 1 - Baradun pushes Laethil off the tower. 1000 fall damage, Laethil dead.

[@Pearleace]

@@SevernSSO featherfall, probably.

[@tako158]

Ah yes, a lvl 20 spellcaster can't cast counterspell. Indeed, this is the man that threw the previous high sorcerer into the abyss and turned him into another dark lord and managed to trick the next high sorcerer into stealing all his powers. Defeated, by a lvl 7 spell.

[@seantandy3700]

Ahhh man my Greg got cheesed

[@markbrown3839]

Exactly, my bet was on Greg. I remember that Rob's gravity rules are more damage than DnD (from the Bodger/airship incident.) In this instance, I think that specific rule is what did Greg in. It is 1d6 damage per 10 feet. So 10d6. Average 55 damage. Even that would have left Greg 50 hps to heal back up. Baradun was out of spells....and Greg still had a lot left. I definitely think the unavoidability of that radius on this map-- and the added gravity damage was absolutely unfair for a one-shot on Greg with 100hps.

[@seantandy3700]

@@markbrown3839 hahah still makes sense that such a high level Spell would be so powerful and congrats to Adam to using the mechanics of the world in a smart way and some innovative combat !!

[@therealpoody7485]

@@markbrown3839 Exactly, he could have won on turn 1 with this spell. Everything seemed fair until he casted this 1 shot spell.

[@MrBlastinBruce]

Totally agree, think it was particularly bad that Rob let Baradoun do max damage on the falling damage despite it only being a few seconds since casting, should have given Greg a chance at least.

[@felixthecat0371]

@@markbrown3839and Rob was giving everyone an opportunity to get back up for a final stand, should've done that for Greg when he fell

[@youcefbouda6856]

Rob: Bodger, you're not raging so you won't halve it Ben: 😃

[@SsireNexx]

I did not expect Bodger to be the first to go down, but holy shit the fact that he last about 4 turns longer than he should've 🤣🤣😂😂

[@therealpoody7485]

That reverse gravity is too powerful

[@RobertHartleyGM]

It's a 7th level spell which is kinda save or suck...

[@legbreaker2762]

Now think about levitate....

[@yiztj1259]

If Greg had succeeded on that Dex save, he would have taken no dmg at all. It's a risky spell.

[@AdDecent6376]

He should have at least used his ex machina to make Greg barely survive it

[@jayzonedc6474]

Rob has home rules regarding gravity and fall damage. In regular D&D it isn't anywhere near as realistic, but in this game it is OP. It should be 10d6 damage (33 damage) instead of 110 damage. Adam took advantage of a broken home rule to win.

[@averageviewer6286]

When Baradun's Blink ring runs out, Bodger's Stink ring is still spinning strong. 😂

[@Daphflrks]

Inigo montoya: You killed my father, prepare to die! Greg the garlic farming cleric: You stole my kill, prepare to get healed.

[@alexj1989]

Is Greg the only one that didn’t get a god token? Funny the cleric is the only one who didn’t get god help.

[@Snake_-zv2ud]

well he is a life cleric, and this particular god wanted death so... kinda makes sense

[@florianluhring683]

He did get one, he used it to make an attack against Bob hit

[@alexj1989]

@@florianluhring683 that was his hero token, right? Not the god tokens Rob had.

[@florianluhring683]

@@alexj1989 ah yes, sorry, you‘re right. was thinking and assuming you meant Hero Token and apparently just stopped reading. So yeah, no god Token, actually quite unfair

[@markbrown3839]

Loved the PVP! Lots of fun, as per usual with the whole series (and now the Lady's series too.) I just....think Reverse Gravity should also be altered since Rob's gravity damage is much higher than DnD's normal fall damage. I'd never be prepared for that amount of damage either. A disintegrate or finger of death hurts, but reverse gravity with these rules is just broken. Especially with a radius that pretty much covered the whole map.

[@RobertHartleyGM]

Yeah, I think I agree. I haven't had anyone use it before, since I switched up how I do fall damage.

[@markbrown3839]

@@RobertHartleyGM it was still a frickin' great game....with plenty of laughs. Good job all around on everyone's part. You guys got me into DnD during the pandemic, thanks for that!

[@mikehough5621]

That was awesome, Bodger Blodger the cockroach for sure LOL

[@user-cu8js5ys5c]

Greenscreen would’ve killed it this episode. So many good moments, loved it

[@Adz2]

2nd this, they should definitely put it as a reward goal sometime, as there are moments in this match that would be epic as green screen moments

[@IndigoIndustrial]

It would have been epic.

[@therealpoody7485]

Yes, in the future if there is a 2nd episode, please add green screens!

[@Poppy_is_my_dog]

I dont know if anyone from viva will read down this far, but just wanted to suggest that for any one shot like this, maybe get a second dm to help rob out. Someone who knows the rules, can maybe do a quick note of what happens on turns, whos concentrating on what, can point out that someone has used their ability already in a round etc. And this is in no way a dig at rob or anyone, because honestly, with the guys style of play and having fun plus the length of time, its no wonder that you all get distracted and forget things. It would be nearly impossible to remain focused & remember everything the whole time. So i guess to sum up, i think having an extra person who is note taker & the groups memory would really benefit everyone.

[@VivaLaDirtLeagueDnD]

This is a good constructive idea!

[@DH-xw6jp]

An assistant DM is definitely a good idea. It would be helpful not only in situations like this, but also when there are multiple friendly NPCs on the board as well.

[@reecedignan8365]

Also a thing that can help too, to help people remember is little tag markers people can place near their characters and don’t take up to much space. Since I play both DnD and Battletech, I use these things in BT to help note the many things that can happen (penalties for heat, piloting rolls, prone mechs, uncon pilots, etc. It’s just a small square or rectangular plastic marker with either a universal symbol everyone can understand or better a very notable word/penalty on it. Since I had these I’ve used them for DnD and they help so much for Tabletop vs rings as people forget rings or what they mean easily. However, seeing the word concentration beside their characters people are more easy to remember the rules or point it out as a reminder for people, plus it comes in handy for quickly being able to place/remove. Also a small thing to help too, is create spell cards for people that have just the relevant information on them. Good example here which could have effected a lot is Baradun’s concentration for both his dragon and hold spells. Having a small card he can look at/ play that notes them both as concentration spells that he, others or the GM can note and go “oh you can play this but it cancels your other one” really works at keeping players consistent and more focused at learning their spells. Same can apply to stuff like Shield of Faith where you just place the DC con check on it (or leave it blank and let them mark them themselves based on relevant rolls) as such when it’s needed to be rolled instead of having to repeat the number as they will forget constantly you just say “look at your card” and since it becomes a constant process they do such naturally as time progresses, improving speed of play and learning. Also helps with just natural learning as instead of having to read past fluff and such, it’s just all the relevant rolls, damage and details layed out simply. I.e. Eldritch Blast Lvl - (insert player lvl) No of Att = Action Cost: 1 Action Range/Area: 120ft Duration: Instant Attack Roll: D20+MoD+Bonus vs AC Effect: 1D10 Force Damage Simple, easy to reference and note. And you can have fun playing them at people. Plus it’s nice to show everyone so they can learn too and see the rules to check everything is square too.

[@TheMexicant3380]

It would be helpful if the party actually remember how to play their characters instead of turning to Rob. Most battles he has to remind them how to operate their own characters with everything else.

[@Barberserk]

A great idea for the final battle also.

[@renab.7390]

Bob should NOT have gone out like that. A little too much interference from Rob there, with the lightning strikes. Just do the terrain stuff minus the treasure chests next time, if you want the battle to not go on for so long.

[@felixthecat0371]

Yeah lightning shouldn't have struck once Bodger was down and Bob was so low

[@SevernSSO]

DM took out Bob in PvP. Guy cant catch a break.

[@kalyps30]

If anything, he could have just finished off Greg who was down or just not done anything since they were at the end.

[@AndrewPerry-zx2yk]

Part of the issue was blink ring. That enabled Adam to cheese so much. Watching adam for months, I can't help but feel he lied on some rolls to save himself from Bodger or other less than idea situations. He reminds me of a few players I played with, who would do just that.

[@a91Wmedic]

O. M. G! That was epic! Bodger taking himself out was fantastic. I still think Greg would have won had Baradun not used reverse gravity. So that was super smart on his part. That spell is OP for sure. As for the simulation.... What they didn't take into account is Bob turning into a bat in low light. So Bob still has that card up his sleeve. Something to keep in mind Bob!

[@_Noolan_]

Adam is such a metagamer. Even if he could cast shatter, how could he know that bodger went for that chest?

[@zen1258]

That was pretty epic. Feel sorry for Greg for getting basically one shot though. I think with these house rules all the characters should invest in a ring of feather fall.

[@dd7896]

The fall damage seemed very high. 55d3 for a 100 foot fall seems like something exponential, rather than the regular 5e rules, although I'm not even sure what the regular 5e rules are exactly.

[@DefnitelyNotFred]

@@dd7896yeah, Rob does not like flat damage for falling, you are on the money when you say he uses exponential maths, because that’s how normal physics work

[@msharp6887]

He took a bunch of hits , so one shot is a little innacurrate

[@lomiification]

​@@DefnitelyNotFredpeople survive falling out of airplanes without any of the magic. Air resistance puts you at a max falling speed, after which it's all about the impulse of the landing. The fall damage should maybe be less than 5e, unless you've got a hard landing

[@thetreatment498]

​@@msharp6887no it was pretty much a one shot. Greg had 90+ hp

[@burtheone8629]

Ben: Why wont you die!? Bodger: Relentless rage son! Its hardens in response to physical trauma.

[@AndrewArts]

I'd say the reverse gravity spell should only be able to be cancelled next turn. Extremely op

[@isaaclarson5908]

It’s usually powerful but Rob changed the damage for falling which usually makes more sense but really messes up the balance for that spell

[@vincenturquhart1370]

that wouldn't be any less powerful, they would just be hanging in the air for a turn unable to do much before falling and dying anyway, its made OP here by robs hombrew fall damage rules

[@cenciende9401]

A spell can't force the caster to concentrate on it, as far as I know, and it's as Rob says, it costs nothing and takes no time to NOT think of something, there is no escaping that

[@Bazzilic]

@@vincenturquhart1370 not necessarily, if you have a turn you can 1) turn into a bat; 2) dimension door; 3) blink; 4) try to float a couple of feet to be over a swamp and not over the stone slabs

[@vincenturquhart1370]

@@Bazzilic good point yeah although blinking wouldn't work as you would immediately fall to your death in the ethereal plane.

[@timothylorenzo3110]

That gravity spell is way overpowered with these homebrew rules, literraly an I ''i cast kill'' on Greg. I think it would have warranted some divine intervention. there. But... despite quite a few rule mistakes I still enjoyed these Immensly tho great work, truely.

[@ZachariasFoegen]

Best of Rule Botches: 1) Baradun able to concentrate on dragon spell during rage. 2) Rob tripling falling damage as house rule but not restricting reverse gravity zone height to 1/3. 3) Two sneak attacks in one turn by Bob. 4) Baradun using multiple reactions to adjust his projected image. 5) Baradun "sneaking" his dimension door. 6) Baradun forgetting multiple times that he has disadvantage on ability checks due to exhaustion from raging and even forgetting to roll when moving on ice. Unfortunately, a lot went in the wrong direction here, almost all in favor of the same person.

[@martinnicdalsihovedetnemus6700]

don't forget greg having a death ward tattoo

[@Ejpon]

I'll add that a lot of "stay in the same space" damage was missed, mostly at the end with Baradun staying in ice for ~8 rounds. Things happen, but it was still a fun experience!

[@michaeloxendine178]

I couldn’t get passed his seemingly unlimited spells slots! He even ate at least 1 to get back sorc points. Overall a pretty hilarious battle though.

[@felixthecat0371]

I didn't like how pretty much every time Bob hid everyone found him and got him anyway

[@yourmosfo]

7) Baradun not losing his first dragon after casting Hold Monster on Rowan

[@UpsidownCow]

Aww man, really thought that Greg was gonna get the victory, but I'm not mad that it went to Baradun. But the twist at the end (Rob, The Grand Master) really tied it all together and made it meaningful to the overall story, such great writing! Thx for the entertainment VLDL!

[@MrBlastinBruce]

I'm mad, Greg deserved the win

[@jimmyhuang3676]

My thought as well. I am on Team Greg too, but Baradun did defeated Greg with a legitimately very powerful spell.

[@GamingwithStilez]

Kudos to Baradun for taking someone out with a 23AC.

[@chissie123]

if Rob ever does something like this again it'd be a good idea to keep track of time with tokens, like: you've started in the fire area? get a fire token, how many tokens do you have? X dmg

[@lomiification]

Greg really should have used his hero token when he harmed baradun to ignore all of baradun's sorceror point etc spend and have it do the full damage

[@samusamu5342]

The metagaming from Adam is insane the double consentration is op and got away with so much stuff so i wouldn't count this as a win

[@kevenveilleux5750]

After seeing the cheats on all 4 episodes, it makes me feel that he deserves the hell he's going through when he drops a pen at playtech😂

[@thiagoboltbh]

Sad that Greg lost. Seems like the fall damage was extremelly overpowered. Way more than the rules in the PHB.

[@Vermouth_19]

Rob homebrewed it. Like if Bodger fell from the airship, he would die raging or not.

[@thiagoboltbh]

@@Vermouth_19 yeah I know, the airship was instakill because it was way too high. Greg was 100ft. This way the reverse gravity is even more powerfull than Desintegrate and Harm. Would like to know how the damage works, though, if Rob could post it for us to see.

[@Vermouth_19]

@@thiagoboltbh Rob did talk about his fall rules in the Behind the Screen series, you can check the playlist on this channel

[@thiagoboltbh]

@@Vermouth_19 thanks, gonna have a look later!

[@thomasdalton1508]

Rob has his own rules for fall damage that are much more realistic. RAW, it isn't particularly difficult to survive even hitting the ground at terminal velocity. He probably needs to re-evaluate the interaction between that and reverse gravity, because it makes reverse gravity much more powerful.

[@archangeltan2077]

funny how in their first pvp Baradun lost and complain about Bodger hacking and this second fight baradun definetly activated some cheats here

[@Karl666Smith]

he's cheats gave him like 100 in damages

[@Veelasiren]

After the reveal at the end, I hope Liathil was confused by seeing a hot tub with Hamish and shark Britt in his peripheral vision. Great game, guys!

[@onecoolboy98]

I expect him to be thrown so off guard in their actual final encounter because they are too compitant here compared their actions in the main campaing.😂 “I see the simulation over estimated your competance. And I under estimated your stupidity.”

[@onecoolboy98]

@@williamscott2580 "WHAT IS THIS TRICKERY?! A Mere Garlic Farmer worth 5 Gold, whom nobody knows, was able to best Me, Layathal, soon to be High Sorcerer?! How can he possibly call upon the gods? This will not stand." cut to Greg "Aw Biscuits!"

[@MetaManGamingTM]

Cant wait to see the d&d logic episode they make about mishearing the DM. "64 plus 6 health potion? That's enormous." All the other PCs just watching a character basically downing an oaken barrel of potion

[@zartu4208]

That was a great PVP series... up until the reverse gravity by Adam. It completely killed the vibe and honestly it looked like Alan was actually kind of pissed at how that all went down. Oh well...looking forward to the next episodes in the normal campaigns.

[@feranicignis1112]

Personally I'd prefer instant kills (if a character had over 50% of their max hit points) to reduce a character to 10% of their max hit points or something rather than just killing them outright

[@VivaLaDirtLeagueDnD]

It was my max level spell which I had been holding back for the perfect moment. Using my highest resource in the game to win when no other tokens were left was my plan from the beginning. If I failed my roll and Greg had outright killed me with Harm (his second-to max level spell) in the second episode I doubt anyone would be pissed

[@zartu4208]

@VivaLaDirtLeagueDnD Adam I am not saying it was the wrong move. I am just saying it really felt like a shift in the atmosphere and the episode when it happened. I also agree you going down in episode two would of sucked also. In the end it was one moment in one video. I will still watch every episode on both channels.

[@thomasdalton1508]

​@@zartu4208I think they were all more than ready for it to be over. I don't think they had factored in everyone spending most of their turns drinking health potions!

[@feranicignis1112]

Yeah I think it was the right time to wrap it up. Great fun to watch and yes displaying health would help. My gut feel was that everyone was near max health going into the last episode but that wasn't the case. A question though, would the reverse gravity spell have pretty much instant killed (or close to) Greg and Bodger if used in the first round (and also Bob if he didn't have such high dexterity or the featherfall ring)?

Kinda bummed about the reverse gravity one shot actually, I guess Rob is gonna nerf the spell to only 50 feet cylinder with his modified fall damage rules haha :D

[@jediobiwan132]

It's been a good mini-series, but it does show that lessons need to be learnt to know your own character's limitations and not have to rely on Rob to manage and know everything for you when he'll have his own side to take care of in a campaign. Just so that everything is fair for everyone.

[@gokulauri]

Baradun played by his own rules and did a bunch of bs that should not have been allowed. Greg is the true winner! Stay strong Greg!

[@onecoolboy98]

Greg had always been my Favorite Character in this. He is the TRUE Hero of the Campaign!

[@user-iu6sd8su3e]

@@onecoolboy98he better become high sorcerer

[@onecoolboy98]

@@user-iu6sd8su3e I would honestly LOVE that! Everyone around him would be speechless, except Greg will be driven insane by the knowledge that being High Sorcerer brings. (Like the fact that he's trapped in a video game.👀)

[@user-iu6sd8su3e]

@@onecoolboy98 haha. Yeah baradun doesn’t seem to be arcing like he should to be the protagonist

[@onecoolboy98]

@@user-iu6sd8su3e We see Baradune become the new Garlic Farmer of Honeywood!

[@kylebennett7518]

I had no idea who was going to win but what a great way to wrap up the series. Bodger being so hard to kill was comedy gold and Baradun's reverse gravity showing how powerful high-level casters can be. Loved every episode. Oh, and nice way to tie it all into the main series Rob.

[@IndigoIndustrial]

Fantastic longer session of play. Looks like Baradun has the "Multitasker" Feat which allows him to concentrate on two things at once. 😊

[@Awesomebotics]

Whoever edited this was awesome! The music perfectly captured those heroic moments. What an awesome mini series! You guys are why I keep the KZbin app! 🤘

[@KillerKoala87c]

It was pointed out that had Greg not gone to heal bodger he might not have been in the position to have fallen. Greg is a good aligned cleric indeed ❤

[@nicklind3068]

33:00 I KNOW Baradun isn't trying to say Bodger lost rage after the ungodly number of concentration checks he never made AND the fact that he couldn't have concentrated on his dragon through that wild surge rage lol

[@stevefilms1997]

Since magic missile hits multiple times I was kinda hoping he’d just do like a third level magic missile and make him do 5 con saves + 1 from the dragon without any rolling on his end. Also since he’s not a barbarian you’ve gotta cut him some slack with the rage thing.

[@NZsmitty]

​@@stevefilms1997Magic missiles hits all at once so would have just been one con save for the attack

[@AdDecent6376]

Plus he used at least 18 sorcery points, when he should only have 13

[@OldMrFrodo]

He traded some spell slots for extra sorcery points @@AdDecent6376

[@jborg0074]

@@AdDecent6376 He can convert spell slots into sorcery points with a bonus action as a sorcerer

[@theomatthrews3689]

Literally such an unsatisfying ending. It's soo unfair for Alan. I feel like Rob should have step in and made him take only half dmg... not get one shot in one god damn turn without being able to do anything (with robs own homebrew gravity system no less)... not to mention all the other stuff that worked in baraduns favor through out the game.

[@MichaelLeonard]

Yeah I like playing sorcerer and was rooting for Baradun but there was quite a lot that went his way both in broken / misapplied rules and lack of intervention from the "god". It really didn't feel right for Greg to get one shot and the final strike from god to take out BOB when him and Baradun could have had a final face off was really disappointing.

[@flyingwubbox]

we dont expect balance game since this is first time. even MOBA game make changes every TI after rv pro player performance

[@TheGamingplayer12]

I agree it felt a bit crazy Greg getting one shot and would’ve been a good time for a god token to like half dmg but I don’t like blaming the homebrew gravity system like it’s a bad thing when rob first showed us it in the campaign everyone was saying how great of an idea it was and now they’re taking shots at it like they would’ve predicted this and accounted for it

[@pascalchevalier2261]

Really like the dark tone at the end. It was an accurate simulation! 1. Bodger was the biggest immediate threat. Everyone aimed for him. He was a walking monster that no one want to deal with, but Bodger was relentlessly running after all of them. 2. Bob struggled a lot, but he was hiding and sneaking around to find opening. Like Bodger, he would run after both casters, but at least he could hit them from afar. Him and Bodger kept the other two in-check. Bob did a great scouting and hunting them, wish he had more options for Wotsit and BatBob. 3. Greg had a masterplan, but one badluck got him. He should have been more aggro, but he played like a true cleric and even helped Bodger. He didnt seek battle, but he make sure no one mess with him. 4. Baradun acted like Baradun would. He let everyone fight each other, run away constantly and use powerful spells each time he could. Not an impressive play, but he simply did what was necessary to stay alive and avoid fighting. I hope we get more!

[@gandalfthegrey4694]

I LOVED the final plot twist of this entire match being a simulation run by Laethil. Absolutely amazing way to work it into canon! ❤

[@Richinnameonly]

How have they still not learned about readying an action. For example "I'd like to ready a hammer throw for if any enemies enter my range of vision". Or any spell can be readyed, Bob can hide and ready an arrow for stealth attacks on other people's turns.

[@callumhogan2428]

He did mention readying an action but chose not to

[@AdDecent6376]

​@callumhogan2428 mentioned the one time the 23 ac character blinked, but conveniently never brought it up when the guys were complaining about the 12 ac character doing it like 7 times

[@callumhogan2428]

@AdDecent6376 I mean he did have to use a luck point to actually blink and that was after his shield of faith ran out or was about to. Misunderstood what you meant Rob mentioned a break I'm sure they were reminded about it during that break or something

[@dounhoom229]

This is why you always wipe out the caster first. Not only are they more powerful than you, they're also awfully selective with remembering which spells are Concentration.

[@Raylan.Hood16]

That reverse gravity was absolutely unexpected. Maximum OOF

[@FaultAndDakranon]

Poor Adam was so nervous. It's not selective memory, it's brain-ular meltdown.

[@FaultAndDakranon]

Though... you're right in that sorcerors are either played by inexperienced players who don't remember, or very experienced players who know every loophole. Sorcerors always broken, just not always on purpose.

[@vincenturquhart1370]

yeah I was suprised by other people targeting each other when killing baradun would get rid of the dragon

[@Zkowen]

@@FaultAndDakranon I'm glad at least someone in these comments recognizes this. This was 4+ hours of DnD combat. Even Rowan was getting visibly restless by the end and he was playing a Barbarian with a flow chart. It seems like most of the comment section wanted Greg to win, and I did to (Tank/Support crew for life), but nothing Adam and Rob did was malicious. It was a fun thing they did and I really enjoyed it. I'm sure they spent the next hour or so bantering about how it would/should have gone different.

[@overthinker8706]

For me Greg won this one. Too many errors went in favour of Baradun (for example not having disadvantage on ability checks despite having an exhaustion, multiple reactions on mirror image). But let me get one thing straight: I'm not blaming Rob for not being able too keep track of this all, I think its players job to know their own abilities. What I think Rob did not do well is that he made Reverse Gravity too powerful by changing falling rules. He should weaken the spell accorgingly. Otherwise it's turning up how it was - lame one shot. I enjoyed it nonetheless. I can still see everyone got much better at D&D then what they were (mostly Bob and Greg).

[@TheGamingplayer12]

Eh tbh outside of its utility it’s like a stronger disintegrate now if the save it does zero dmg but has potential for big dmg

[@overthinker8706]

@@TheGamingplayer12 It's a lot more powerful than desintegrate. Avarage disintegrate does 73 dmg on a single target. This does on avarage 110 dmg (plus dmg of objects they hit the way between floor and ceiling!) on targets in huge 50 foot radius. Dex save is only if you have something to grab into. If targets succeeds in dex save you can leave the spell to keep them pinned down. You should compare it to something like 9th level Meteor Swarm - 140 dmg on avarage, 70 dmg on succesful dex save, but you can always make a dex save radius is smaller (40 foot), and no additional utility. Overall, new Reverse Gravity is equal to at least 8th if not 9th level spell. On a top of that, as I mentioned before, spell is only a part of the reason.

[@mikeycisar2665]

You dont even know how much I wanted Greg to win with Bodger’s help. That “brothers for life” would be priceless 😭😄

[@callumhay1297]

Bodger: Too angry to die

[@VivaLaDnDLogs]

Greg: High AC High Hit Points Full Caster Healing Spells Played Things Smart & Safe Baradun: _Reverse Gravity_ Dragon

[@TheArdor]

And cheating by "forgetting" things

[@netenes1]

@@TheArdor That's a bit mean

[@christmascritters3691]

@@netenes1 but accurate man was straight up doing that

what can you say, high level casters are bonkers and well known for solving whole encounters with single spell (mass suggestion, wall of force, reverse gravity, maelstrom, power words and many more...) If this fight was on level 9, I wouldnt bet on baradun actually :D

[@stevefilms1997]

@@christmascritters3691wild magic sorcerer specifically given all the wild surges you have to remember you do tend to forget things.

[@Aweng_Zweng]

Greg missed to blink at the last turn... Could have saved him!

[@Unbreakable87]

Lighting dropping Bob after a player died was lame. I knew the ending would be Baradun after all that favoritism for Baradun. The GM needs to learn how concentration works. And how PvP isn't like normal games magic users can't just use arcane to stealth. Heavily bad calls.

[@BlutwoAnimations]

Very. VERY tempting to vfx this one up myself. I don't regret a single penny donated. absolutely amazing episode

[@toastbutler]

Everyone really came into their own throughout this. Loved Bodger's refusal to die, loved Alan's strategic plays, loved B.O.B. getting to take out Bodger out after all Ben's unlucky rolls in the campaign, loved the way Adam always thinks outside the box, and, of course, loved the way Rob kept things interesting throughout. Thank you so much, guys!

[@adamkershaw7637]

bodger just screaming "I'm still standing, standing on my own to feet standing like a true survivor

[@BookWormMega]

What I'm wondering is how the elves got the combat information from Greg when he didn't fight in the other PVP match, but just watched😮

[@Poppy_is_my_dog]

I thought that too lol

[@MrDavidMoyer]

22:00 Look at Ben, finally learned to have Bob fight like a proper rogue. Well done.

[@haski-v-kaske191]

It was damn exciting! Thanks, guys! And the way Rob wove a PvPshot into the plot of the main campaign with a few sentences was an elegant conclusion

[@Dogo.R]

The reverse gravity thing sucked but it was unlucky: This happened because all of these things alligned: - greg didnt engage in most of the fight so ended up stayed on high hp and resources but in turn he didnt really get much action + reverse gravity combines badly with the falling houserule + rob hadnt encountered reverse gravity spell combining with his falling damage house rule before because its a high level spell used rarely + greg missed the save which if he made he would have taken 0 damage from it + greg didnt have any lucky tokens left to reroll it + greg and the rest of the table forgot greg has a lifewell tattoo that would have made him only go to 1 hp + greg happened to not be under a roof + rob didnt realize fast enough that a des macina token there would be ideal Was unfortunate. But random things line up sometimes in both good and bad ways. Such is life. We can learn: - update reverse gravity for the house rules - engage in fights early on so you experience more back and forth... especially if the game is time limited - if you die suddenly, check your character sheet, you may have something that solves it that you just forgot.

[@EVPR494]

With all the missed rules from Baradun I didnt feel it was a fair fight

[@andrewmcleod1]

Winner of that battle... overpowered Reverse Gravity.

[@terezakrckova8220]

53:19 Question - doesn't Greg have a deathward ring or tattoo or sth that on 0HP puts you to 1HP? From the recent gambler-giant loot in the main campaign? And I haven't seen the last ep yet (176), so sorry if it's explained there :D

[@RobertHartleyGM]

Yep! Once again demonstrating how vital it is to remember your abilities and features!

[@supersaiyan877]

I loved all 4 episodes but the reverse gravity kinda ruined it for me, not gonna lie :(

[@th3new0ne]

Absolutely... Baradun just aoe everything felt so lame... Adding to the boring dragon...

[@amongusplayz3279]

Bodger is such a champ, he fought a dragon, Bob and Baradoon all on 1 hp. #respect ✊

[@dannymarlow2037]

We needed to see one last Bardun wild surge to see if he killed himself along with Greg.

[@whycantthiswork100]

Man I want to see the final scene with Bodger and Bob in fan art so badly!!! Bodger dripping blood and Bob flipping him off with smoke launching out of his eyes EPIC!

[@TheGoldwingh]

Epic ending. Gutted Greg went down in one hit though. Was certain he was going to win. Thanks everyone

[@legbreaker2762]

Gee, spoilers!

[@chadgoogle]

Thanks for the spoiler…

[@GamingwithStilez]

Watch the video before reading the comments.

[@birdieb0y25]

​@GamingwithStilez kinda hard to say that when this comment shows in full under the video without even opening the comments

[@GamingwithStilez]

Oh, i did not realise that. Might have been that it showed by you at the time you watched the episode. For me, it was way down the list. And there were several spoiler comments. Happens.

[@TheCooPeer]

At points this was really frustrating to watch. Feels like every ruling was bent in Adam's favour and some things just straight ignored for him to not lose his dragon, concentration etc. Super frustrating at times

[@Var3ll]

loved these episodes, however I wasnt over thrilled with how it ended bob dieing from 'god damage'while it was 1v1 that should of stopped. and i feel baradun had alot of concentration biases

[@Var3ll]

just made it feel very anti-climatic maybe letting it go on a bit longer or paused and taken the session back up it could have been wrapped up more enjoyable. plus that dragon was very meta game

[@AdamBokovComics]

Wow, everything worked out EXACTLY the opposite way of what I predicted

[@laudahl4912]

BREAKING NEWS: blacksmith to angry to die

[@michielecker]

This was absolutely awesome! Thank you for doing that. And I LOVE that Rob gave a twist at the end to link it back to the actual campaign even though the guys assumed this would not be "canon" at all. Also, my prediction on the first video was actually not *that* far of, I'm surprised :D: "Predicting that Baradun will get bloodied from the first round by Bodger but get away and eventually win. BoB will get the killing blow on Greg, Baradun will kill Bodger and then only just kill Bob before almost dying himself. Let's see how wrong I am at the end!" I got the who kills who swapped around but the winner right! Yay!

[@nicolalanti449]

No offense but ending with a "Reverse gravity " was a bit anticlimactic... I think Greg deserved a bit better... Still, amazing fight guys

[@Greenpotato908]

That was a pretty lame ending, ngl. Great all the way until reverse gravity.

[@eDumke87]

Hold on, Greg didn't participate in the first pvp... they shouldn't have information on him

[@Harlequin_Eyes]

HOW I WISH THEY GREEN SCREENED FOR THIS! Rob, I love how you tied it back to the main campaign at the end, what a great way to wrap it all up. These one-shot games the channel throws up once in a while are always fun and I hope there are more in the future.

[@noahway9710]

" hear no bells!" had me tearing up xD

[@WillsBeard]

Possibly my favourite moment was the god rolling a 1 on damage and Greg asking Rob if he wants to do it again

[@abc123tiktok]

While I would have liked the lesser favorites to win Greg or Bob just to mix things up. I do think this did a good job of everyone getting to shine at least once. Bodger was still impossible to kill and lowkey love it was his own attack that brought him down again. Bob was the one to finally kill of the toughest guys which is pretty canon accurate considering his boss kill count. Greg went from being a clueless artificer to being a pretty good cleric who was a favorite to win the whole thing. And Baradun shows he is the most powerful sorcerer in the land that could have one shot most of the party at any time.

[@cecileynoel8792]

Ah friendship wins today; Rowan and Alan are goals. This has been so much fun.

[@Daphflrks]

That made me awfully happy.

[@Elated_Llama]

I would argue that Greg would not have fallen for the full 6 seconds, falling 100 feet takes about 2.5 seconds, but he needs to fall both up and down for a full 5 seconds And i would imagine the casting of the spell, and the spell actually causing the effect taking more then 1 second. So i would argue that if Baradun dropped concentration on the same turn, Greg would not have fallen the full 100 feet giving him less fall damage, or giving Greg a turn during which he is falling. During that turn he could have tried to use his spiritual weapon to try to break his fall. Would that have saved him? who knows But it would have felt better then getting oneshot with no recourse. Like Adam said: "it didn't feel like a good win for some reason"

[@GamingwithStilez]

Flies around with his hammer!

[@ahtf184]

Ending was sadly really disappointing. But a fun series in total,

[@scoobydoom]

Also feels kind of arbitrary that fall damage was chosen to be more realistically lethal than getting hit in the head with a massive hammer/axe or getting ignited by a giant fireball.

[@atimidbirb]

In a simulation, no less...

[@waraidako]

It's like getting shot in anime. You can get sliced up and run through with swords all day, but when the bad guy shoots your nakama in the back with a gun suddenly phoenix down does fuck all. With the standard rules Bodger can literally throw himself from the sky like he did once already, but given average or lower damage he wouldn't even get knocked out by the impact. Is it consistent? No, but for some reason having falling damage be unrealistic feels more egregious than having weapon damage be unrealistic.

[@jasonh.6653]

I absolutely imagined Bodger screaming about his hammer during the relentless rage. Refusing to die because the hammer was rightfully his.

[@timothyfrasier8218]

The dragon was cheating dammit