NRG Lost 9 ROUNDS IN A ROW To Miss Playoffs! | C9 vs NRG Analysis

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[@Marsbars312]

They were saving defense strats for 2025. Very big point you missed in this video.

[@Tenz2346g]

Fr

[@KianoushAlavi]

Next year, JAWG, FNS, Ethan, Demon1, and s0m

[@muzy8768]

Nah bro this team is doomed bro ​@@KianoushAlavi

[@allxlan]

@@KianoushAlavi2023 eg + som and fns

[@teslo8020]

@@KianoushAlavithat comp unironically might be insane

[@Benetheburrito]

Just saw Billi Billi gaming fall to their knees at the local walmart

[@Reverb_LiNk]

??

[@smithy3950]

So sad their best friends at NRG couldn’t make to playoffs even… but at least we will see BiliBili at champs I pray 🙏

[@Harapan162]

@@Reverb_LiNk cause they cant beat nrg if they make champs

[@cronggpal]

Fns streaming exvlusively on bilibili

[@bootao1671]

​@@smithy3950this is why BLG will lose to JDG because they lost motivation

[@Rubidium_rose]

my first thought after the game ended was "cant wait to see TMV make a vid about this LMAO"

[@yup-ey2wq]

LMFAO same

[@Tenz2346g]

@@yup-ey2wqsame

[@frankb.8071]

i immediately thought “tacticalrab is gonna have a field day with this”😭

[@CreeperawmanYT]

Bili bili gaming is in shambles after seeing their rival choking badly to the point they are thinking if they should even qualify or not.

[@ArJayDM]

FNS started training his aim but sacrificed some of his brain in exchange. All jokes aside, the improvement in FNS aim has changed NRG dramatically. I can remember at least 5+ fights this series that he would usually lose, but since he won them, NRG won the round.

[@chad2522]

But overall he still played mediocre to above average. He is not the X factor that NRG needs him or anyone else on the team to be.

[@KianoushAlavi]

Hear me out, next year, Jawgemo, Ethan, Demon1, FNS, and s0m with Potter as coach next year

[@anghuyphamnguyen3096]

​@@KianoushAlaviNah man what is with the "NRG buying champions" type shit here. Jawg and Potter aint coming to nrg and tbh buying roster instead of building one is just lame asf

[@gggggggg44996]

@@KianoushAlavi That is a god awful roster. Jawg only plays entry and smokes, Demon1 only plays second duelist and smokes, and s0m only plays smokes (has played duelist in past). This roster would win the award for least flexible roster in the world as you would be forced to play double dive or double smokes every map. Braindead casual who only looks at big names. Replace Demon1 with Rossy and this roster could have a shot

[@yourbelovedautumn]

@@gggggggg44996its esports u not even playing why u so defensive

[@gpfhantom1890]

You know, the worst part isn't even that they threw a 12-5 Lead, it gets worse, when you think that it was essentially a 4v5, with Xeppa on Skye being a walking Ult Orb.

[@walangaccount8984]

NRG could kill oxy and C9 would just fall apart, it's just baffling they lose to this.

[@gpfhantom1890]

@@walangaccount8984 Yeah, they just couldn't deal with OXY, especially on Icebox, OXY was just farming them

[@lucifermorningstar8387]

Victor just couldnt contest Oxy in firepower

[@anghuyphamnguyen3096]

Ngl C9 roster is all mid except Oxy, why tf did they throw leaf down to tier 2 the guy is such a good sentinel, way better than moose

[@gpfhantom1890]

@@anghuyphamnguyen3096 Leaf is in an even better team now after what they did to the last roster. Leaf has found his place in G2

[@xdtrollface5721]

I had learnt my lesson after suffering the consequences. After completing my chores, my mother asked me if I had finished what she had told me to do. I simply smiled and said "The Optic core," because I knew that they were finished.

[@walangaccount8984]

Crazy comebacks been happening also on apac TS vs GEN it's crazy to pull that 9-3 comeback on the current world champs.

[@cronggpal]

Tbf 9-3 is quite common and gen g were probably not playing their best but ts have improved quite a lot

[@zeewy2x]

here before the oiling man's valorant comment again

[@TMV_Oil_Up_As_You_Promised]

You were 9 mins late so no

[@Hailoow]

i fell asleep thinking NRG won lmao (EU viewer here)

[@muzy8768]

Literally same happened to me. Fell asleep at 12:5 scoreline

[@whereami.]

14:08 that is rough

[@Ara-yt4jv]

Yay on chamber fragging out used to make the difference. Today it was oxy who just got extra kills and dragged c9 across the line.

[@troysmithfr]

OXY was pulling teeth tbh

[@miloz1207]

Everythingyou say is very true and I would just add that Oxy who took advantage of a lot of mistakes that NRG made and he was incredible. Kudos to him.

[@soundcloutking303]

Petition to convert the channel to “Freaking Man’s Valorant: Your Hub for All Viper Fan-Fic Series’”

[@brisankatarafder6395]

someone send riot that round 24 and convince them to change sunset B

[@Orciwan548]

While I do think nrg look a lot better now I really wonder what subbing in demon 1 for crashies or Ethan would look like. A lot of his issues early this year was on the entry role which he could do but never excelled at and with fns setting him up it’s hard to think he couldn’t be a lot like yay was. Crashies and Ethan are solid players but very similar in agent pool and role so one of them would make the most sense to bench. Don’t know if it would be different but an interesting thought.

[@Micalex]

This happens when you get too comfortable. Simple as that

[@spencerwoodhull3748]

Don't think they ever had time to get comfortable.

[@Micalex]

@@spencerwoodhull3748 at 12-5 probably was

[@chad2522]

@@spencerwoodhull3748 12-5???

[@fefe8582]

@@Micalex i dont think you ever get comfortable in a compettitive situation dude, i even think the reverse happened here and they got nervous, not comfortable tf

[@Micalex]

@@fefe8582 you think. I know 💀

[@Jellyz15z]

chet is the problem how does no one see this

[@hermosas_rosas]

when i saw ethan at the end reload without the animation i realized the actual reason why they lost

[@rizwansaji9019]

OIL OIL OIL 🛢🛢🛢🛢

[@IrisOfUnova]

- The USA invading the middle east

[@zo-zu7158]

As an old Optic fan, I started crying at 9-12. I did not stop crying until the next day. I now understand sports fandoms.

[@barbaracult]

This is how I felt when I heard liquid was gonna be a super team in 2023 and then they proceeded to get destroyed by team secret at lock//in. I woke up the next day and went “FUCK MAN, liquid lost”

[@solortus]

Watching this live was crazy. It was the most insane comeback To add salt to the wound this is what knocks nrg out 😂

[@muzy8768]

Ye true. Even if they won the chances of them qualifying was low

[@Sugarist0]

I still don’t know why demon1 got put on an agent he’s not comfortable on then immediately got dropped when they started losing. Rn nrg lacks firepower, someone who can just carry the game on their own thru their mechanical prowess, and that man is sitting on the bench watching this disasterclass

[@KianoushAlavi]

Cuz Chet is a shit coach. I think next year it should be Jawg, Ethan, Demon1, FNS and s0m with Potter as coach

[@Hello-wo4sx]

@@KianoushAlavijawgemo demon1 and som probably wouldn’t work out together rolewise. demon1 knows jett and brimstone and that’s about it. jawgemo hasn’t played anything but duelist or sage in a long time. som only plays smokes. if you put demon1 on jett it forces jawgemo or som to play an uncomfortable role. if you don’t put demon1 on jett and it’s not a brimstone map he’ll be uncomfortable. they’re all good players but they don’t seem to fit together.

[@lexxihd5843]

@@Hello-wo4sx Maybe Putting S0m on Duelist and Demon1 on Smokes with a Sova/Fade player coming in it would work. I think Demon1 can't play main Duelist he's just doesn't have the playstyle for it.

[@anthonyvu9501]

@@Hello-wo4sx you have a point but the thing is s0m can play everything at an exceptionally high level. Check out his tracker he literally plays everything. Probably the most versatile flex player in NA rn. I respect your opinion, but it's difficult to see s0m or even jawgemo to be uncomfortable in any role, jaw even played deadlock and shit on them with the gimmick comp for icebox lmao

[@Hello-wo4sx]

@@anthonyvu9501 true, som is probably more versatile than it seems based on his pro play, but ranked is very different from pro play. think about players like prod. he’s been radiant many times maining jett but the way he plays jett would be absolutely horrible in pro play. i’m not saying som would be horrible on any agent because he probably wouldn’t be but it’s unlikely he would be as good on any of them as he is on smokes. jawgemo would also be good on most roles/agents but my biggest concern would be what you would do with demon1 when he’s not on jett or brim. he clearly isn’t particularly quick to learn even other duelists and it would be unlikely for him to be able to play other agents in other roles at a very high level. it would make the most sense if you used a 6 man roster, but at that point you might as well just use jawgemo on jett because he’s more than up to par on jett and have a more flexible, permanent 5th man on the roster.

[@therealheggy]

bili bili boutta start throwing after seeing nrg not make playoffs

[@RookeSpecs]

They really need a guy with good mechanics to carry and a guy that can make a difference when it counts. Championship teams we've had always has: 1.) talented fragger, 2.) great IGL or great coaching staff, 3.) Clutchmaester, and 4.) 2 support players that complement the carry. NRG should've taken the risk with Demon1 and built around him imho. Building a team with synergy in mind is good but it should be built AROUND a star player, not as a replacement to not having a great fragger. Teamwork won't cut it in NA since teams there are generally synergistic and have above average firepower.

[@andreanarli7651]

Lev got aspas, Sen got Zekken, Cloud9 got oxy....see the pattern here? Nrg could've set up demon1 with proper igl-ing by fns but nahhh let's keep victor the 2022 Reykjavik masters winner than the 2023 VCT champions mvp...

[@KianoushAlavi]

Next year they should do Jawgemo, Ethan, Demon1, FNS, and s0m with Potter as coach

[@lexxihd5843]

@@KianoushAlavi Who plays Sova/Fade here? What are the roles?

[@lexxihd5843]

But these guys are main entry duelists. Demon1 is more like a second entry, like Cryo and Yay. They need another Duelist with them.

[@andreanarli7651]

@@lexxihd5843 Demon1 used to be the main entry on EG no? Yes Jawgemo would accompany him as raze but most of the time he'd solo duelist as jett

[@lexxihd5843]

@@andreanarli7651 ​ Platoon has a video called "The Truth Behind EG Demon1 v NRG Demon1. Its a great video. In it he shows entry statistics. On EG Demon1, Jawg and Boostio all did around 25% of the enties or so. (Basically it was pretty evenly split for those 3). On NRG Demon1 did 35% of the entries far and away the most. Platoon also argues, why that doesn't work for Demon1, but does for Aspas e.g. (its playing styles, and its the reason why Cryo now works better with Asuna as the main entry. He had the same problem on his first 100T roster.)

[@snowfall8735]

was waiting for this

[@Venomx-nb1jr]

Here’s all you need to know, C9 went B site late in the match, NRG had 3-4 últs. they failed to snow ball said últs and lost the round by not trading correctly. They were rattled or they assumed the game was over and they ended up in OT. Also c9 played slow and tactically on every single one of those rounds and NRG wasn’t able to answer that call. To anyone that has played ranked you know how hard it is to get rounds 10-13 on the board. You know that that is when the game really starts.

[@troytripoli4244]

When are u gonna review the TS vs Gen.G match TMV?

[@PhukingMonkey]

what is stopping TMV from being a coach/analyst for a team right now. I feel overwhelmingly informed after every video.

[@barbaracult]

Enjoyment, scheduling etc. being a coach isnt for everyone even if they fit the talent look at sliggy/seangares

[@ArJayDM]

7:58 crashies used both prowlers and a haunt to confirm 1 presence. This is how my fades use utility in dia-asc lol The 1st prowler already confirmed someone was there. What is the point of the 2nd one and then even the haunt that just both get shot by presumably the same exact person. I would understand if he spaced them out, but he sent them all within the span of 9 seconds

[@kalyanjyotidutta287]

and they call him one of the 'best' initiators Kid is washed, he ain't crashies no more, he's TRASHIES

[@KianoushAlavi]

@@kalyanjyotidutta287him and Victor truly need to be gone

[@Hello-wo4sx]

sad that nrg didn’t make it to playoffs (even though they don’t deserve it) but even more sad to see that c9 did make it (they deserve it less)

[@barbaracult]

Just give it to oxy man he deserves something in life after putting 4 people on his back on his bac

[@Hello-wo4sx]

@@barbaracult true, oxy is one of the best mechanical players in the world. the rest of the team is god awful lol

[@peyda2647]

Only in Valorant someone can get a 4k and you dont see a single one. These observers are sleeping fr fr and there isn't even replay. Rip oxy 4k

[@irishsamin9397]

nrg might be bigger choker than prx 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@timmynotjerry]

optic core known for heartbreaking moments 😭

[@Svally]

Demon1 said they lost as soon as victor came back trying to OP someone. He ended up predicting everything from top to bottom.

[@mozarella_cheese]

its been 30 seconds

[@reddfromshawshank2832]

A minute now

[@sreejith1710]

3 minutes now

[@DrNiqx]

30 mins

[@Naeem2460]

2h now

[@claxcz]

can you make a video explaining pacific stage 2 playoffs and scenarios, its very crazy in pacific look at the brackets and their standings lol

[@MerkFreeks]

As an NRG fan, this sucks, honestly it was a long shot for us to make playoffs let alone champs in split 2, I can atleast say I watched the team improve from the clusterfuck that was Split 1 and Kickoff for us. Always next season.

[@jayceebalante9160]

do the secret geng game

[@Mellows.]

I legit think ethan threw on round 22, when crashies managed to kill runi, he should’ve just instantly swung on xeppa who’s low since theres no one to cover for xeppa and crashies can keep a watch for runi’s revive. Just peek fast so moose doesn’t have time to cover xeppa But oh well nrg as a team also threw many other rounds too

[@KaizuTogen]

when score was 5-10 FNS looked like he said 'gg boys-gg'

[@floatzval]

I miss the full series breakdowns 😞

[@Naeem2460]

Demon1 is needed in team

[@muzy8768]

I fell asleep during your stream at 12:5. It was 3 am and i for sure thought they won😅

[@tan.tan10]

The biggest fumble in valorant

[@arashikage40]

NRG almost beat Sentinels btw guys. Thats their biggest achievment 😂

[@KaizuTogen]

at 12 NRG seemed to take a lot of solo fights and trying to do hero plays... they became to relaxed.

[@michaelare]

chet's gotta go. he was alr testing the waters with that return to CS news awhile back

[@Venomx-nb1jr]

I’m just gonna say when you’re in a 4 v 2 needing to defuse on b site, stop tapping the spike and push the last two guys together with util. You can’t just allow them to spam the spike and get 3 kills back off spam. You need to create some sort of chaos there that works in your favor and takes them off the spam angle. Nrg didn’t do that and we’ll never know why.

[@bensmith5402]

All nrg need is to sack chet and crashies, been here the entire time blaming others for the failings of the team Needs better management Also crashies is just consistently throwing, getting greedy and doing horrible swings

[@bopon4090]

Oxy was damn good

[@vitthalkudav4213]

I think they need an emtry fragger or a player who makes a difference, obviously Victor is not the one, Demon1 can be good like last year's eg they play s0m on raze also, crashies is not playing that well they need to replace these two

[@flzemerald]

When video about TS comback against Geng???

[@cameron6329]

never cuck

[@bunsglazing]

2025 gonna be fire year for nrg promise

[@maro3045]

I didnt watch this match cause I thought NRG was back, seems like i was only half wrong

[@noahallen5046]

I am livid about this

[@heisetube8233]

It’s funny that because of the 12-5, the 1v3 detained clutch on icebox is a distant memory. BLG>nrg

[@professor6643]

That's why Raze is batter than neon

[@alvinrezkikurniawan6781]

what does this mean for c9 tho

[@ryuzoraa]

save strat

[@OniGG]

When you replaced an All star roster and the problem was the coach the whole time lmao

[@b.acuzar]

that picture of fenis is criminal

[@alcheeu]

Bbl + nrg = comeback chokers

[@oldman7408]

Som promised he would beat 100t, i guess he can't do it now.

[@miguesrt101]

This just makes me feel worse because Kru lost to NRG...

[@Venomx-nb1jr]

Nrg may actually be like the 4th best team but we’ll never know. This was an ananomly of epic proportions.

[@skun4243]

Fns calling zellsis lucky is the funniest thing now guess he wasnt lucky enough to have good teammates like zellsis

[@Theo-bb6pn]

Lmao I stopped watching this game last night at 11 5 🤣 hahahaha

[@shavafpv8890]

Just give fns Demon1

[@knetx]

Crashies throw the game he needs to quit i thought he was a pro why did he not know where the enemy is nrg needs reroster

[@SeatThai-cm5jn]

2023 Champion 🏆 = lost twice to Bilibili 2024 VCT Shanghai= couldn't make it even demons 1 join team 2024= Champion 🏆 12 vs 5 lost C9 NRG Noob Rolling Group 💀12v5

[@KianoushAlavi]

I think next year they should bring Potter and get Jawgemo, Ethan, Demon1, FNS and s0m

[@boagski]

Som is underrated. FNS is overrated

[@ImStrivoh]

kills doesnt = impact , theres a reason theyve looked better even though they lost their best aimer, dont get me wrong theyre still bad but def better than that last roster

[@benniwd2077]

Still many round calls where very questionable ​@@ImStrivoh

[@LotusEli]

@@ImStrivoh we cant really know if they're better than the last roster, i'm sure this nrg would've still beaten kru, but anything else is a wild card. my problem is that fns just doesn't have anywhere to go as a player, he's going to reach a dead end eventually, and my guess is that's in 2 years. i think it'd be best if he starts to transition to coaching, he could become the best vct coach when he does fall off and retires

[@KianoushAlavi]

How are blaming FNS before crashies and Victor 😂

[@boagski]

@@KianoushAlavi not blaming anyone. It’s more of an overall reflection of how they are viewed and their potential.

[@ShorkKeith]

Jesus that thumbnail makes it look like fns aged like fine milk

[@zengoh8026]

i hate nrg they are so dogshit, chet should go back to csgo

[@volatile871]

FNS just needs to fucking retire, bro cant even hit a fucking shot. Chet can even know when to call a timeout, 9 fuckings rounds, and no timeout until OT, bro use the timeout you had one right there.

[@kenichidc]

Fns s0m yay xeta victor

[@kenichidc]

Or an ascension initiator

[@kenichidc]

Wait I forgot abt Ethan 😂

[@KianoushAlavi]

Victor won’t play without crashies. I actually think it should be JAWGEMO, Ethan, Demon1, s0m, and FNS with Potter as coach

[@kenichidc]

@@KianoushAlaviyea I guess Fns can help with ini roles

[@KianoushAlavi]

@@kenichidc well I was think an Ascent comp is, Demon1: Jett Ethan: Sova JAWGEMO: KAY/O s0m: Omen FNS: KJ

[@maximuslovesu]

They lost because fns is old and they benched demon 1 🫨

[@Venomx-nb1jr]

Here’s all you need to know, C9 went B site late in the match, NRG had 3-4 últs. they failed to snow ball said últs and lost the round by not trading correctly. They were rattled or they assumed the game was over and they ended up in OT. Also c9 played slow and tactically on every single one of those rounds and NRG wasn’t able to answer that call. To anyone that has played ranked you know how hard it is to get rounds 10-13 on the board. You know that that is when the game really starts.