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[@Asbayen]

That intro makes me happy every time I hear it. Good memories ig.

[@BasedHellDiver.]

Ik the intro i like it, the song sounds so go like

[@garrettsmith9788]

If you are a strong player and you are not teaching beginners, then you need to start. It is the responsibility of every Go player to expand the base. Make a base. Sound familiar?

[@frankiethefrank]

You missed a third category of player - fairly experienced, still sees value in hearing strong players discussing basic concepts.

[@Arcticp75]

Love these teaching focused videos! I'm sure many of us would love to hear more of your thoughts and experiences in teaching beginners!

[@adambrown30]

Thank you so much, your videos have helped me in my go journey so much I can't even tell you!

[@echoct506]

I think teaching concepts is way more useful. Because if you know the concepts then the Joseki just play out naturally.

[@lloydcastleton]

This is stuff I really need. Hard to understand many other go channels. I don't really know why but I connect with what you teach more than others. I do like Micheal Redmond's channel though. He does try to keep it simple and easy to understand. But I digress. Thank you Nick, hopefully I can use these to improve my game

[@jacksonfitzsimmons4253]

Dwyrin has a good Back to Basics series

[@lloydcastleton]

@@jacksonfitzsimmons4253 he does well with direction of play, but really gets hard to follow as a DDK.

[@jacksonfitzsimmons4253]

@@lloydcastleton The best advice I can offer a ddk is to play games attentively and think about why you're playing the moves you're playing, like what are you trying to do. And not to get frustrated at the opponent's moves or feel like you have to respond locally to everything they do

[@UCkU0SrpEeCdPX-2cBVndj7g]

Extention from 13:00 is cut off, but you can play C10 or D10

[@johncreed2967]

I do like this kind of video! It could be really good to have a video talking about how players who are somewhat between beginner and intermediate (e.g. high single digit kyus) can best go about learning joseki themselves/how to know what to prioritise in one's own learning etc. I feel like my opening's hit a bit of a plateau where I know all the basic 4-4 and 3-4 stuff, but I get lost trying to expand my knowledge from there. Sort of a "teach a man how to fish..." kind of video. Love the content as always!

[@darrylrouch9193]

I’m just learning and this video and the one where you ranked the 21 moves! Because they present basic elements and the reasons for them.

[@whiskeyvictor5703]

What software do you use for your display?

[@harryarmstrong5728]

I feel like the drawback of the first joseki is that the follow-up for white at c16 is a big deal. Or conversely, black taking gote to play c17. I don't think most amateurs really understand the correct timing, including myself.

[@Secret_Moon]

It's not that big a move. If black takes F16 and white goes C16, white gains about 12 points, but gives black a very solid wall to extend on the right side and outward, as well as sente. But if you're worried about it as black, just extend at B17 and call it done.

[@MrSlowThought]

Watch the bent wrist when punching. Physical fighting has joseki, too!

[@nickb220]

thank you for that really friendly wave in the thumbnail!

[@jacksonfitzsimmons4253]

Will we ever see in person lectures on the demonstration board again?

[@noahdoss1967]

When it comes to beginners and joseki, I just like to correct single moves with “the most often played move is here, there are moves that follow but we won’t worry about the details, this move is just preferred because _____ (for instance: it protects the corner more efficiently)

[@zhenyuhuishan1655]

Ive been playing go for 3 months now, i can understand joseki, ive been doing it in my plays without knowing what it was

[@inariloli6607]

I found out about the game when I was seven because of an anime I found on Kissamine. The anime was called “Hikaru no Go” I had no prior knowledge to the game then what the anime taught me, but I really wanted to learn. The show doesn’t teach much, but it does show a few moves, and some outdated joseki’s, but not much more than that. I bought my own go board, but I had no one to teach me how to play. All I new was attach, gain territory, and the Komi rule. So even though a lot of the game still confuses me, I’m having fun trying to piece it together and learn how to play!

[@integratedfrost435]

At 11:47 you mention that the particular shape that's made from not attaching on the high joseki is a pretty terrible shape. Why?

[@dillonyoung5502]

Do you have a video on concepts for beginner?

[@TrueBlueAndrew]

Hey Nick, i’ve been trying to remember and find this set of stones where the box that they sit in kind of looks like a honeycomb and you push in the center and they all spread out. I wanna say they had them quite a few years ago in tournaments.

[@NickSibicky]

They are called "Ing Bowls" and unfortunately, I don't think they are being imported anymore. Maybe try to find a Taiwan dealer? senseis.xmp.net/?IngBowls

[@TrueBlueAndrew]

@@NickSibicky thanks man.

[@richardfredlund8846]

'i expect everyone watching this video probably knows this joseki' .. really not helpful considering this video is called top 5 joseki for beginners.

[@PJTraill]

One of his target groups, the teachers, probably does; he seems to forget his other target, the learners, too often!

[@darrylrouch9193]

Yeah! Fundimental rule of teaching anything too often and easily forgotten!

[@dieterstender9685]

As having taught go tens of players, I can totally agree with you. Don't teach joseki. It was a great video, for tidying up the room. Thanks.

[@josekimasters6663]

I've noticed that a lot of lower ranked players don't really follow Joseki and open themselves up to obvious exploits. Patterns are useful but you need to understand the why behind the pattern.

[@DmitryShpika]

What you were supposed to learn: 5 beginner joseki. What you've actually learnt: how to punch people

[@markus-hermannkoch1740]

I have been taught, "learning Joseki will bring your strength up by 2 stones". If that is true, it will boost your regular 20k all the way up to 18k!

[@PJTraill]

Learning them by rote is said to make you two stones weaker, understanding them two stronger!

[@LEPOREcloud]

I've been playing for a week! 😂

[@Sfourtytwo]

Never played GO, never will. Super sad you will quit as i really enjoy you playing and explaining GO.

[@pokerchannel6991]

I am collecting 9 by 9 joseki, and I am uisng the computer ai to give me the moves, as I see the popular moves, and see the ai answer, and that way I can assemble 9 9 joskekt, as there isn't many 9 x9 vids joseki

[@timefororbit]

Go 👏 Content 👏 Video 👏

[@JohnRandall1066]

could you speak a little more on your point about how you would have taught 5+ years ago? AI influence? what was the methode before?

[@DG-ss1gc]

Is Joseki like katas in karate? Do you ever drink Dos Equis while studying Josekis (Sorry , Dad here) thanks for the talk. You might be surprised how many bad beginner videos are out there for those who learn by reading the back of the math textbook first.

[@asemic]

what the hell is a Josekis?

[@srki22]

There is no need to teach the last one to beginners. I simplified a little bit so I always teach them to approach with knight move and to open at 4-4 so they will not need to know the last joseki. Another benefit is that they will not need to learn deviations that lead to complicated avalanche josekis.

[@srki22]

If beginners open at 3-4 the opponent can initiate the avalanche and they will be lost.

[@Ben-iy7vr]

whatsa joseki?

[@benjaminevans8740]

INteresting to compare with the hour long lecture # 6, which is also top 5 joseki! Check that out if you are looking for more details and discussion... And hey, thanks Nick! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp2zl4p9rLuCfqs

[@kodokudeusotsuki]

I think you shouldn't teach joseki to beginners, you should teach how to punish a bad joseki. 1. It's useful when beginners play against other beginners. 2. It teaches WHY joseki are useful. 3. It's fun to learn since it teaches how to capture stones/win territory.

[@PJTraill]

I agree with him and you: don't teach josekis to absolute beginners. But learning how to punish joseki errors is harder and riskier than learning a few josekis. Some deviations punish themselves later in the game, some are valid and some have known punishments. A beginner will, and even an SDK may, have trouble telling the difference.

[@adamh5153]

I have recent books I can learn Joseki from. Video sequences are highly advantageous over a series of numbers. The way you do 6 stones a second, its actually easier to just use the book. Waste of time. If youre making videos exclusively for teaching reference just say that.

[@thatchessguy7072]

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[@thatchessguy7072]

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