Nuclear submarines for Australia just started a new Pacific military alliance against China!

This newsflash video goes in depth on the biggest piece of news in geopolitics in years. A new military alliance in the Pacific created. And kickstarted by Australia getting nuclear fueled submarines. To find out more, watch the video!
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[@Anderson-f4t6c]

*I'm pretty sure US didn't include France because FAukUS doesn't seem very catchy*

[@vennsim71]

Lol… FAUK US! Legendary one mate! ROFL 🤣

[@not_noah69]

lmao

[@BlueBearJr]

This comment wins

[@vennsim71]

@@bcfc2947 count me in rofl 🤣

[@caboverde9616]

@@vennsim71 China: alright I will.

[@oldgreggscreamybaileys6618]

I think France is more annoyed than China is about this

[@arvinoo5881]

For now, yes. In a decade or two China will be very upset when their vital shipping lanes are threaten by Aussie subs.

[@BERSERCŒUR]

Obviously yes, US literally stole a French 60 billions $ contract, money make good or bad friends, you bet France will never again participate in any american operations again after afghanistan and this and so will EU. France is the country that owns the largest EEZ in the Pacific and second in the world, Us is just trying to make China the next "vilain" just like they did with USSR.

[@faithnfire4769]

@@BERSERCŒUR I mean this is somewhat standard (if you look at longer term history). France is a major arms exporter to both NATO aligned and other nations, so competition when alliances move is typical. Think how many times a NATO nation has fought a country with French tech. So they'll be pissed, but ultimately it's not like they are buying the same thing. A nuclear sub is quite a different product.

[@jeffperteet2327]

I'm pretty certain AUKUS will make a nice deal with France in place of the sub deal.

[@pbeccas]

I’m glad. The French sub would probably have turned out to be a lame duck liked the Euro Tiger.

[@marcusmelville4111]

All UK and Australian Naval officers have royal commission, which means they can command each others ships if necessary

[@raywhitehead730]

So? Not a military source increase in warfare fighting, total dbass

[@Khan-hd5vn]

why people alliance ....

[@병아리-j5g]

I wish they sell SSN to SK , SK can give them SLBM

[@filipinorutherford7818]

I am for this but Australia needs to be a partner not a subordinate. We need to be able to say no to our alliance partners.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

That's probably something that will never be true in practice - that borders on a combined military and I believe third-party military things like that are against NATO or the UN or something if you're members etc

[@ThisRiceEater]

About time Australia started looking into nuclear propulsion. Being an island nation with over 25000km of coastline to patrol, not to mention territory extending to a number of other small islands, I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

[@FairladyS130]

It had happened now simply because Chinese belligerence has made nuclear politically acceptable. Thank you CCP, being too clever as usual.

[@idontwanttopickone]

@@FairladyS130 I mean as much as China is asking for it with their saber waving. It also makes no sense to buy a diesel sub when you can get a nuclear one. I think this is more about timing than anything else. Australia needed a new submarine and someone offered them an upgrade when they were looking.

[@kirkc9643]

We also need a massive and comprehensive nuclear deterrent. We already have everything we need, except the political will (and ballistic missile subs...)

[@TGBurgerGaming]

Australia has the largest land sea claim of any nation on earth. Western territory alone stretches from just off Africa to just off India to Antarctica.

[@davidbrisbane7206]

@@FairladyS130 Indeed. Australians don't even want commercial power generating nuclear power stations, but if you are pushed against the wall, then you have to push back.

[@dean1039]

British and American subs will be based in Australia long before Australia's are built. I believe that's the point in a new alliance, instead of just a deal. Interoperability.

[@sjv9147s]

I remember the most recent Afghanistan interoperability. Racing towards the downward spiral, mates, however crazy that sounds. What's Morrison been smoking with the kind looking grandpa?

[@markhaggerty4819]

The Australian subs may never be built. Remember the MX missile basing schemes? The point seems to be the bases, not subs Australia doesn‘t have the expertise or personnel to crew.

[@TheBucketSkill]

@@sjv9147s Who gives a shit about it anymore? I mean really. Shit has been over with, people decided what the future of Afghanistan is going to be. Nothing can change that, and that's that. That entire episode is based off a event from 2001, no one cares anymore Afghanistan is old news. Trying to convince stone age villagers to sell out there tribesman was a failure who woulda thought? Naval warfare on the other hand will finally allow us to use our oversized budget for once.

[@sjv9147s]

@@TheBucketSkill Apparently, you do. Just listen to yourself - totally worked up 😉!

[@ptranchand52]

@@markhaggerty4819 the big issue about the cancelled contracts is Australian ask France to build conventionnal subs based on the nuclear subs Suffren, France give Australia the opportunity to build nuclear subs but say no, and now they cancelled the programm because they want nuclear subs, this is the big problem, the manufacturers Naval Group inform the AU government about the difficulty to redesign and build locally this type of ship but they didn't care, and 2 days ago they inform France at last moment they cancel the contract, this is a treason by his Ally and France is already taking measures.

[@Inkling777]

Except for the UK and France, when Europeans think "submarines," they think of the Baltic, the North Sea or the Mediterranean. The greater range of a nuclear sub over a diesel-electric one matters little. But for Australia, submarines mean the Indian Ocean and the Pacific, both of which are huge and need nuclear subs.

[@mikicerise6250]

Australia was the one that INSISTED that France sell them diesel submarines instead of nuclear submarines, not France.

[@Dorgpoop]

Tbf with the Arctic melting there will be a lot more European countries getting anxious about Russia projecting power through the GIUK gap with submarines

[@anshulbhardwaj4038]

Nuclear submare in Indian ocean it's a no no India will not allow that Australia can petrol in pacefic not in Indian ocean with nuclears .

[@marknicholson2281]

@@mikicerise6250 it’s not just the size of Pacific, it’s the ability to stay submerged for as long as you want. Surface scanning radar and satellites have developed since the Barracudas were ordered. If a sub is unable to stay hidden it’s going to be much more vulnerable. However as the Barracuda was a diesel version of a nuke powered boat I’m surprised they didn’t just change the propulsion back to nuke. It would have saved a lot in penalties and time. Maybe a reflection of how poorly that partnership was going?

[@psychalogy]

@@anshulbhardwaj4038 Australia will patrol wherever it needs to.

[@foundhope322]

In other breaking news, New Zealand has just announced they will build a Fleet of Wind powered Submarines.

[@chris_yang]

more like solar powered...

[@2paulcoyle]

Fueled by the rainbow colored butt-Skittles from unicorns

[@kerwar682]

picking on nz is a cheap shot. They will support Aus with their Jet fighter wing. Oh that’s right.

[@w0mblemania]

Thank god we have ANZUS. What would we do without Jacinda's steadfast commitment to our alliance and defence posture against China.

[@Wargunsfan]

That's what comes out of NZ....mostly wind.

[@lolcakesmith7321]

Can we can a review of Australia as a whole, Their upcoming projects for the Navy, airforce and Army. Its one of the most interesting upgrades of an armed forces in the world.

[@peter7027]

Pretty soon their military will be as strong as the Talibiden with a recent infusing of 85B in advanced military assets.

[@mccari09]

@The bearded guy couldn’t you reapply?

[@DelaDoesWork]

Their upcoming projects? Or US/UK upcoming projects helping Australia?

[@lolcakesmith7321]

@@DelaDoesWork What do you mean? All this work will be done in Australia. Obviously with US expertise assisting. Nuclear tech is top secret.

[@Emilechen]

a third world country in oceania which exports natural resources and raw materials, pretends to be equal of USA, lol,

[@testaccount4191]

The UK had a big problem with getting/training enough people to build the astute class due to the intermittent production of the nuke subs. So if they can keep them fully employed in the UK or as consultants in Australia that would be big and massively beneficial for the UK along with massively helping Australia.

[@ClaudiusJovianus]

Agreed.

[@v4skunk739]

We are still building Astute class subs though, all tooling ready to go. Aus getting Astute or the successor class around 2030+.

[@idontwanttopickone]

That's why the US is involved. They have more than 6 times the nuclear submarines in service than the UK and plenty of experience building them.

[@adamhicken3598]

@@idontwanttopickone They require more crew and cost more manpower though. A slightly smaller design might suit Australia more

[@gfenwick1]

@@adamhicken3598 USN crewing ratios are impacted by their fire and damage control philosophies. The order of difference can be 10-15% above similar RAN vessel equiv capability/tasking

[@astrolonim2032]

I love this type of content, binkov. Not that the normal stuff isn’t great but current events videos are even better. Thanks :)

[@carrisasteveinnes1596]

Perth is their State (Western Australia) Capital. I think their primary port is Fremantle.Their Westernmost naval base is just South of there, on Garden Island, and on shore at Kwinana. Might be wrong. Usually am. W.A. is big enough to be a nation in its own right. Five times bigger than Texas. All that land, all those rich resources and unlimited fresh water for just 2.4 million people. All that beef, lamb, poultry, wheat, gold, bauxite, uranium and diamonds. More forest than all of Europe. More desert than all of the Sahara, and yet still so fertile. The world's richest fisheries. No wonder China wants it. And the Aussies removed. Lots of love from Nevada.

[@rmar127]

@@carrisasteveinnes1596 Fremantle, Kwinana and Garden Island are just suburbs of greater Perth. Western Australia does have a good supply of fresh water. However it’s all in the north of the state. Nowhere near any of the population centres. It’d be like having lots of water in Seattle and 100 x the population in Los Angeles. Oh wait that is the case over there.

[@Yaaacar]

especially since he is very objective on everything he reports. I would also like to hear more similar content.

[@davidirwin3477]

@@carrisasteveinnes1596 The naval base called Garden Island is on the east coast of Australia, over 3,900km to the east of Perth. WA is one big state, like all the Australian states. They say Australia has close to 10,000 metric tons of Gold reserves and a lot of this is in WA. Cheers from OZ.

[@frankmueller6522]

In principle, it is good and right that the Western countries should stand up to China, because the West stands for democracy, freedom and human rights. China is a dictatorship. Human rights are trampled on there every day. Regardless of this, the western countries should better coordinate their actions with one another so that there are no misunderstandings. The French government seems very upset. All western countries must stand together!

[@proscriptus]

The UK media certainly agrees with you, they are all but calling major UK involvement in construction a foregone conclusion.

[@demun6065]

So it will be an Astute? Maybe with an American reactor and American weapons? Either way, as an Aussie, this is fantastic news to wake up to.

[@AUmarcus]

@@demun6065 Yes, Virginia/Astute class....in the interim, a possible lease of Los Angeles class from the US.

@@demun6065 I heard it will probably be an American reactor but maintained by the UK in Australia.

[@dan7564]

Any chance you can link me to any and all UK news coverage on the issue, the youtube Algorithm keeps directing me to australian news sites. :/

[@CabbageBloke]

@ Wouldn't be an American reactor if they go with Astute.

[@jasonjason5184]

Worth every cent, thank you US and UK, we were already a target before this. Peace through strength!!!

[@ИммануилБормотухин]

Why was Australia a target, could you be so kind to explain?

[@arnold3414]

I'm just scratching my head as to why it took so long to figure this out. Our (usa) military has been working with the Aussies forever, how we haven't lent a hand sooner is beyond me.

[@happyhappynuts]

@@ИммануилБормотухин Australia became very nervous in 2020 following endorsed academics like Jin Cangrong suggesting places like Australia need to shut up or face consequence, and in 2021 the party mouthpieces making threats like Global Times : "China has a strong production capability, including producing additional long-range missiles with conventional warheads that target military objectives in Australia when the situation becomes highly tense.’ The only way Australia can deter that kind of thinking is with the capacity of delivering similar effects via submarine that can remain submerged for long periods and travel far, as nuclear subs can. Many in high leaderships of China really consider there are only 3 countries in the world : China, Russia and USA. Everyone else should shut up.

[@happyhappynuts]

@@arnold3414 because prior to the tensions of 2020 with China, Australia wasn't even asking for nuclear propulsion. Xijinping has made a huge mistake in the tough line with Australia. Ultimately, the invasion of South China Sea and Wolf Warrior aggression will lead to a re-armed nuclear Japan.

[@ИммануилБормотухин]

@@happyhappynuts Thank you for explanation! Don't know much about SEA - Pacific politics unfortunately.

[@mr.factoid105]

God the reboot of the Cold War series is killer! I can't wait for the next episode

[@oj3458]

The old one will always be better

[@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2]

@@oj3458 Sequels are rarely as good.

[@dunnowy123]

I don't know how relevant that is nowadays. Some of the best blockbusters of the past 20 years have been sequels: Spider-Man 2, The Dark Knight, Infinity War, Skyfall, Toy Story 2, Shrek 2, ALL the Harry Potter sequels, the LOTR sequels...nowadays I expect the sequel to a big movie to be better.

[@dunnowy123]

@jmalcolmg123 it is a misnomer...but...it's the term in English. It reflects the experience of the English speaking world. I'm sure in those countries, they do or can call it something else.

[@donniebooshae3880]

Cold War 2: Electric Boogaloo

[@seanross9175]

Seems to me like it would make sense to build 1 or 2 more Astute class subs in the UK using their existing production line while Australia sets its self up. Good chance to start training Australians, good money and jobs for the UK and Australia might actually get a submarine this decade which would be good given that Colins is means to be retired in the 2030s.

[@garyhankinson5695]

Spot on!

[@1mol831]

Why not build planes instead. Subs take forever to build. Planes can do everything subs can.

[@louiscypher4186]

@@1mol831 Planes cannot do "everything a sub can do" not even close. Our sub doctrine revolves around espionage and fleet protection, You just don't get that from planes especially when we don't operate carriers. But this deal will see an influx of US planes stationed here potentially even bombers.

[@navalfocus]

But work has begun on Successor in the UK which is the replacement for the four Vanguard submarines. For the UK this is more important as the Vanguards are rapidly reaching end of life. I honestly am not sure the Barrow yard has the capacity for another Astute. I would expect the hulls to be made in Aus and specialist components to be made in the US and UK. The UK recently nationalised Sheffield Forgemasters to ensure we retained the specialist steel skills for sub components.

[@1mol831]

@@louiscypher4186 planes are faster to build though.

[@DaIssimo]

I'm going to guess UK hull, reactor and propulsion. US weapons and sensors.

[@rmar127]

That’s pretty much my thought too. There’s plenty other weapons systems we can buy from the French to stop the baguettes 🥖 from whining

[@archiecroft7114]

K S Absolutely agree though if I was to make the decision I would use the British spearfish torpedo.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

I'm starting to think that the ridiculous trade deal the UK signed with Australia after Brexit was just to sweeten this deal.

[@jamescormack4669]

why US sensors?

[@TheMelbournelad]

That makes sense. More so as we are getting more tomahawks. Australia also has a relations with BAE and a few other British based military companies etc.

[@MTG776]

Australian Submariners have plenty experience in Nuclear Subs. They have had for many years sailor exchange programs with the U.K and USA.

[@Kromsmitesyou]

Their biggest problem is lack of personnel to man these boats. World class troops but no real numbers like most of America's allies. Australia has like 13000 naval personnel compared to the US' 340,000.

[@scipio8866]

@@Kromsmitesyou I bet that’ll change

[@JPmaxlevel]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhaha

[@MTG776]

@@JPmaxlevel Paradoxical laughter...

[@JPmaxlevel]

@@MTG776 nooooooo, sorry, i love your enthusiasm 😁 and its ok they will have another 12 years minimum before the first sub is finish.. nothing to laugh about.... 🤣👍👍👍🥳

[@connorduff9278]

The interoperability between US and UK on the carrier strike group was just a first step. Now nuclear subs in the mix with Australia, it looks like a new anglosphere bloc is being formed to counter the east.

[@dallascopp4798]

Canzuk Plus the US might be a reality. A reality I want

[@choatus]

@@dallascopp4798 This is already a thing really but we should make it official.

[@karlosthejackel69]

@@dallascopp4798 Agreed! But Anglo nations are about to become to become non Anglo due to crazy immigration. So I’m not sure

[@oj3458]

@@karlosthejackel69 thats mildly racist

[@xenotypos]

@@karlosthejackel69 It's been a long time most "anglo" nations only have language in common, not ethnicity. Most whites in USA don't have primarily an english ancestry. Far from it. It was from all of Europe, and then assimilation did the work.

[@chrism6904]

Australia is one of America's biggest allies. Im glad that they're getting these! They can help protect the Pacific. I hope to God we (the U.S., Australia, etc.) never have to use these though (in war...)

[@elmohead]

Australia is tiny lol

[@infinitetk4165]

Lol Australia is not one of the American biggest allies

[@drksideofthewal]

@@infinitetk4165 One of the “Biggest” in terms of strategic location, and cultural ties.

[@saxton2125]

@@elmohead Hey Elmo, Australia is actually larger than contiguous U.S. so Australia is pretty big, and is the 6th largest country in the world.

[@davidmoss2576]

We are not helping them build nuclear subs for peace bro.

[@JustyHakubi]

So basically AUKUS will be the reincarnation of SEATO.

[@ultraman5168]

The Indo-Pacific Quad sort of already is. This is just a solidification.

[@irontongue5389]

Japan and India would need to be involved for an alliance to really be able to envelop and contain China.

[@paladisious]

@@irontongue5389 There's this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrilateral_Security_Dialogue

[@mikicerise6250]

More like the reincarnation of the British Empire.

[@natedaninja3171]

@@mikicerise6250 not really, the poms don’t really have the naval power to even think of running a global empire

[@casualsuede]

Australia has to do what is in their best interest. Alot of the French contract was not happening, including timelines, price, %of workers building the subs from Australia, etc.

[@johansmifthelry9307]

because Australia kept on adding new demands, but also kept on agreeing to the updated timelines, and prices... Ultimately it was purely a political decision to veer towards the US and the UK and leave France behind, not a question of deadlines or actual contract problems.

[@mando_dablord2646]

@@johansmifthelry9307 That's what I've been seeing that the decision was purely politic. The Aussies flip flopped between either making the subs either diesel or nuclear constantly causing set backs, so they decided to drop the contract all together with them.

[@cassidy109]

I’m an American but it seems it would make the most sense for the Aussies to acquire a variant of the Astute class, which by all public accounts is one of the finest attack boats in the world.

[@unclejoeoakland]

I agree with you. As for the French, of course they are upset but they have a history of with-holding weapon systems and reneging on development programs when the wind blows a new direction. We have enough clout to disregard the breezes. Glad the aussies will be growing their navy.

[@Ray-td5lo]

Seawolf and Virginia class is better But maybe we will see a new hybrid boat made with uk us and australian tech

[@Conan-ny1um]

It will be built in America at General Dynamics Electric Boat submarine yards! No offense to our British friends but Australia needs these last month! And the UK would take far to long USA kicks out 4 subs a year and that’s half of its capability... Inthink this sub will be a cross between a Sea Wolf and Astute Class Sub! Sorry to break it to you. But UK is not a option it would be just like France and take way to long!

[@mkd2839]

@@Conan-ny1um And all of this is based on...what source exactly? The US Navy is currently short on yard space for the Virginias, there is no chance they will construct for Australia. Coupled this with the need for development of a domestic nuclear sector (which is the entire fucking point) means that it is all but certain that it will be British subs and personnel assisting in its construction.

[@Conan-ny1um]

@@mkd2839 there is two submarine yards in America both are running half capacity, look it up. Britain takes 6 years or more per Astute class so explain how that will benefit Australia? Americans do there hulls totally different and it much quicker and do some research... Maybe a smart plan is to build them in The USA and Britain who knows but time is of the essence since France pissed away 5 years and did absolutely nothing.

[@hanoitripper1809]

Just what Australia and the region needs!

[@demun6065]

Yes! Our military think-tanks have been asking for nuclear submarines for a very long time. Hopefully our next purchase is a long range bomber, like a dozen or so B-1B's, to fill the void left by the retirement of the F-111.

[@xr9381]

We need actually unclear weapons from US!

[@carrisasteveinnes1596]

@@xr9381 I was thinking the same thing. But there is no reason the US, UK, or even France could not base nuclear weapons in Australia, or New Zealand for that matter. France has closer local ties than even the US. And we are all allies and friends. For my part, I want to see a substantial NATO contingent, of all arms, based in Australia, as that region, New Zealand too, is the next big flashpoint. China will not dare to attack Taiwan, or Korea, or Japan. It will be their obliteration.

[@carrisasteveinnes1596]

@@demun6065 With ICBM's you would not need long range bombers. You guys ran the F-111for a good, long while. Far longer than us. Kept China and Indonesia at bay. And they were an actual threat to OZ during the sixties, seventies and most of the eighties.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

@@carrisasteveinnes1596 - We ARE NOT all friends.

[@paladisious]

3:07 When you realise that the people responsible for nuclear missiles use comic sans. We're doomed.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Pfffft. They didn't study graphic design. They studied _the blade._

[@JoeOvercoat]

Not to worry…but when they go with Wingdings you know it’s over for all of us.

[@paladisious]

@@JoeOvercoat 💣︎

[@fireiron369]

*Megalovania intensifies*

[@paladisious]

@@jakobinobles3263 it's French lol

[@videowilliams]

Australia's already been "a bastion of US military power projection" (9:58) back in 1942 for about a year when the Japanese were at our throats. And it worked out pretty well for both of us.

[@craiga2002]

May the memory of Kokoda never die! Salute from the US!

[@advanceaustralia3321]

Fremantle, Western Australia was the 2nd largest submarine base in the world. 140 submarines conducted combat patrols 1942-45.

[@ianstobie]

Best coverage I have seen on this story! Makes three points others miss: 1. The fact the UK is in the deal at all suggests the Royal Navy's Astute class model may be what the Aussie subs will be based on. US yards already running at close to full capacity on their attack subs. 2. Submarine bases are very important and hard to create. Takes years to develop a base for nuclear subs. Training people up is one thing that takes time. But once built, US an UK subs may get to use a Perth or Adelaide base alongside Australia. So boosts capabilities of these fleets, not just Australia's. 3. Aussies may not have to wait till mid 2040s to get hands on subs. Deal may include leasing starter subs to get them going. Probably used models, but hopefully not bangers!

[@kennethferland5579]

Given the haste that seems to be implied I could certainly see new Astute hulls being started right now and Austalia getting them in a lease arangment immediatly as they come off the line while Australian manufacturing capability ramps up.

[@Conan-ny1um]

It will be built in America at General Dynamics Electric Boat submarine yards! No offense to our British friends but Australia needs these last month! And the UK would take far to long USA kicks out 4 subs a year and that’s half of its capability... Inthink this sub will be a cross between a Sea Wolf and Astute Class Sub! Sorry to break it to you. But UK is not a option it would be just like France and take way to long!

[@richardthomson4693]

@@Conan-ny1um no they wont UK has no spare capacity, dreadnoughts are going into build when astutes are launched. US has no spare capacity with the virginia's in building the columbias starting as well. Subs will be built in adelaide according to press releases, it will 18 month investigation into if its astute, viriginia or a franken sub. Hopefully they don't go frankensub and just pick one of the 2

[@davidmoss2576]

@@richardthomson4693 Yes they need to pick one preferably the Virginia Class.

[@michaeldobson107]

Irrelevant, guys. As Bink already pointed out, it will take YEARS before AUS gets these subs built and into action. The MAJOR part of this agreement (as Bink also pointed out) was the formation of a sort of pseudo "Pacific NATO," (i.e. being able to place US/UK subs ALREADY in the water, closer to China.) I think creating a strong "deterrent" to China's intention to "rule" the entire South China Sea Basin was always the end game here for the West. That is why China is so pissed. In the great chess game that is geopolitics, the West essentially said, "Check."

[@ashley2108]

I am impressed on your accuracy and research you have put into this upload. This pupoet is more accurate than reporters!

[@JoeOvercoat]

Eight nukes might just provide a legitimate patrol fleet capacity.

[@BroadHobbyProjects]

They'll likely buy more when things look promising after the first few are built.

[@Chris-es3wf]

@@BroadHobbyProjects my speculation is that it will be a 16-20 sub fleet this is phase 1.

[@jedilordlog8543]

@@Chris-es3wf bruh theres like 3 destroyers, 8 frigates, 12 patrol boats, 2 LHD's and 6 Subs in the fleet, i think a dozen subs is the most as that is how many new ones they were already buying

[@kennethferland5579]

The mismatch between the amount of water and coastline Australia needs to patrol and the budget and population available to do so is by far the worst of any nation in the history of the world. Theirs no way Australia can ever have 'enough' ships, it's just a matter of how big are the gaps going to be.

[@ryandeee4628]

​@@jedilordlog8543 yeah they mentioned there will be 'at least' 8 to begin with, it will slowly grow over time, and considering the time it will take to make these its likely the number will increase through production.

[@jinnantonix4570]

Another option is that Australia will lease older US Los Angeles subs, giving Australia a capability within a few years. This will more quickly lead to the important strategic requirement for infrastructure and facilities for supporting US and UK subs in Australia.

[@josephahner3031]

With all of the wear and tear on the Los Angeles class and them being older and less advanced, that would probably be a bad idea. More likely at first the US may base Virginias in Australia and take on Australian sailors to help man them and then progress to their own.

[@santyclause8034]

No old subs, k thnx.

[@jinnantonix4570]

@Brett Mitchell possibly, but I think the Poms want that boat for themselves. I think we'll be getting older Los Angeles class subs, and with limited missile weaponry - we will use them instead for surveillance and SAS troop deployment.

[@jinnantonix4570]

@Brett Mitchell I agree Astute class is a better choice than Virginia class. I am still not convinced that LA is off the table for Aus, and still think that the UK and US will own all the attack class boats with powerful missile systems and the skills to deliver them, and Australia will do surveillance (air and underwater), troop deployment and provisioning/maintenance.

[@jinnantonix4570]

@@erichl1167 why not, and why should I trust you?

[@oler777]

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[@aussieairconditioner8023]

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[@oler777]

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[@aussieairconditioner8023]

@@oler777 no reason to be toxic lmao, just pointing out that everyone gotta make money so don't give youtubers shit for taking sponsorships

[@difficultinterest1582]

The RAN and RN already share crews as it is, so I feel as if an Astute would make sense

[@christophmahler]

"The RAN and RN already share crews as it is (...)" The video doesn't mention personnel transfers within the *'Commonwealth'* - but this is exactly the scenario it was meant for - a rapid regional buildup of capability.

[@oj3458]

Yeah i know someone who was part of the royal navy who was transferred to Australia. Happens more than you’d think

[@jameslewis2635]

It would need to be a completely new design to fit the crew requirements, the Astute needs almost twice as many people as the Australians current subs. Maybe they could build a simplified version of the Astute class with more automation but the amount needed seems like too much of a stretch.

[@locknload9143]

Good for Australia! France is lucky there even still on the map, If it wasn't for Canada, U.S. and Britain . So Deal with it!

[@andrewyoung749]

@@locknload9143 usa living off the glory of a war that ended 80 years ago. hasnt won one since...

[@hourbee5535]

Meanwhile, New Zealand just sitting there looking around nervously

[@gregflores8959]

Indeed

[@FairladyS130]

@@gregflores8959 They have Antartica to look after although they pretend NZ is in a war proof bubble.

[@MesozoicMatters]

As a NewZealander myself, i have to say the Royal NZ “Navy” is more of a glorified coast guard

[@OverseerMoti]

If NZ is nervous, try ASEAN countries. Their territories *will* become a theater of war should the AUKUS or PRC politicians decide to be irredeemable bonkers.

[@DefaultName-mb7uk]

Astute would be a better choice 50% cheaper, while being 90% as lethal, and 7knots faster.

[@fordgtguy]

The problem is supplying the workforce to maintain new submarines in Australia. Does the UK have the public shipyard workforce to share and help maintain Australia's new fleet? The US has four public shipyards with personnel and already maintain 66 nuclear submarines.

[@gfenwick1]

Not sure how you are determining costs, UK and USA have completely different models for determing through life platform costs, USN doesnt factor in contingency or through life exchange rate estimates, whereas UK and Australia do. Bear in mind that the first 3 years of Astute manuf required US Commerce Dept, State Dept ans Usn intervention to overcome manuf probs n the UK, there was a report made avail on the status of UK ship building issues that was triggered by US Commerce Dept circa 2009 IIRC. It was of interest to RAN as Aust mirrored the UK n deficiencies. At that stage we were already overdue for replacing Collins at the planning level by some 5 years. So we are 16 years late already

[@LarsonChristopher]

Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

[@wadopotato33]

But takes twice as long to build...your number are a little off. The Astute can carry about 2/3 the armament of the Virginia class. So 66% as deadly, not 90% and the costs are 2.6 billion USD vs. 4.4 billion USD. So it should correctly read: The Astute is 41% cheaper and 2/3 thirds as deadly. The big reason I see is that the Virginia Class takes more people to operate and Australia is going to struggle to find qualified people to man 8 boats. Neither are a bad choice. Since the Aussie submariners already train with the UK the Astute is probably the frontrunner....unless they need them quickly as an Astute is taking 11 years to build.

[@gfenwick1]

@@wadopotato33 RAN submariners cross deck with USN boats and vice versa, USN crossdeck on Collins with more staff (designated slots) than RN do

[@murray613]

🇬🇧 🤝🏻 🇦🇺 🤝🏻 🇺🇸 Winnie's going to be looking over his shoulder, boys. Happy that the UK can work with these two great nations again. I hope we see more cooperation between our nations in the near future.

[@SM-ly5tf]

How do u feel about Scottish independence?

[@leerobinson8709]

@@SM-ly5tf The one where they voted to stay a part of the UK? Or the one where the fish lady ignores the referendum and demands another?

[@CB-bl8sp]

These countries already have some alliances.

[@fireiron369]

If he’s smart he doesn’t care. Putin has known for years that America is all talk so I don’t doubt Xi also knows this.

[@CB-bl8sp]

UK is an international outcast looking for a purpose in life. Anglo- Saxon arrogance seems to have no boundaries based on the comments I read. For Australia it’s time to recognize that you are in Asia and should be happy to be an Asian nation. Five hundred of years of European rule (including its derived people) have come to an end. The sooner you realize it, the better.

[@tomtomed1]

Will nuclear reactors work upside down? Kappa

[@thorimsdal626]

Yes. It is a pressurized system.

[@edwardgeorge4881]

No! They'll have to undergo an inversion.🤺

[@carltanner9065]

The reactors will be on a gimbal, so when they operate from home, they'll be right way up. And, when they head north to visit you guys, they'll turn upside down to operate there :D :P :P

[@thorimsdal626]

@@carltanner9065 lol

[@15seconds3]

Do toilets flush counter clockwise upside down? Kappa

[@peterfmodel]

This is an excellent analysis, i wish the main stream media would actually provide real analysis instead of the ill-informed stuff they normally pump out.

[@TGBurgerGaming]

The French want to kill us now and Malaysia is going to blow up Canberra because of this. - ABC News.

[@jamesbollocks8479]

Sorry mate, if you wants facts and figures or unbias commentary mainstream media is the last place you go to.

[@no3ironman11100]

@@TGBurgerGaming They're not wrong. The french that cared to follow these news (most didn't) read it off as "AMERICA AND AUSTRALIA HAS BETRAYED US. THEY ARE NOW THE ENNEMY!" and a lot of comments are telling of how the outside world is a danger to the french people, and everyone obviously hates us so might as well turn hostile, etc etc. Thank god most french people don't fall into that category. Personally I feel like people underestimate the impact of "make fun of the french" has had over the french people. Most of our interactions when we're recognized as french is "haha surrender you weak lol" which results now in many french people considering the rest of the west hostile.

[@peterfmodel]

@@jamesbollocks8479 Totally agree. The main stream media only pumps out uninformed opinion, fear-porn and anger-porn. I have found in the last 5 years its deteriorated so much as its useless as a source of information. In 2018 Der Spiegel made public one of its journalists falsified his stories for years, he basically made them up. The UK Guardian has done the same, the best example being a fictitious massacre in Kosovo, while the journalist, supposedly on the ground, actually went shopping in Rome, and of course the falsified reporting the UK Guardian did on Julian Assange back in 2016. It’s a struggle to try and find accurate news these days. I don’t like Assange, but at least he reported news without any opinion. My cousin, who lived in the DDR back before 1989 often states the western MSM reminds him of “Neues Deutschland”, which was the official state newspaper of the DDR. I am guessing the internet has resulted in the media’s collapse, as it can’t make money reporting simple and accurate news.

[@TGBurgerGaming]

@@no3ironman11100 let me know when the election is over how they feel. I'm guessing the hyperbole will dissipate pretty quickly.

[@idontwanttopickone]

Nothing new about this alliance. Australia, America and Britain have been allied since WWII.

[@bradclifton5248]

Sad part is my woke NZ govt is not in there too. Just another sign of our flaccid international relations.

[@foddermucker]

@@bradclifton5248 New Zealand is dependent on China. They can't afford to piss them off.

[@The_Desert_Tiger]

@@bradclifton5248 Not sure what you could really add to it tbh.

[@bradclifton5248]

@@foddermucker we need to get less dependent and, fast.

[@bradclifton5248]

@@The_Desert_Tiger I know. Honestly, I think a strong deal with Australia, even a merger of our militaries would be way more economic that our current, under funded forces currently don't get what they need to offer any meaningful contribution to anything. We have good fighting forces with no resources. If we provide and pay the men, Australia would be better positioned to equip them for effective service.

[@salvinsam]

So many experts in the comment section: Generals, Admirals, Nuclear Scientists, Naval Fleet Commanders.

[@Joetechlincolns]

Lol

[@tranquilitybase8100]

... and Social Commentators.

[@travisutrecht1542]

I’m an expert gardener.

[@salvinsam]

@@travisutrecht1542 I'm a semi-pro mower.

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express

[@e.l.4409]

That's nothing until we get nuclear-powered emus.

[@dogbert52]

Thats exactly what im worried about.

[@aymonfoxc1442]

Hey, with recent technological advancements, I'd say laser eyes for weapons on the emus are only five years away. I think emus with outboard motors are going to form the basis of a new marine force too.

[@CabbageBloke]

If the Aussies had any sense, they'd order Astute, with a British reactor and Spearfish torpedo's and US weapons and sensors.

[@douglasnakamura6753]

I think the Yanks will be dictating everything. My money is on virginia class for Oz....

[@CabbageBloke]

@@douglasnakamura6753 They don't have or could afford to man all those subs. The UK wouldn't of joined this group unless it was beneficial to them, and considering the Astute and its size would fit the Oz navy it would make more sense. Not to mention cheaper.

[@CabbageBloke]

@eLKy 15 What has that got to do with an SSN?

[@w0mblemania]

My opinion: we need near-term supply of submarines. They can be off the shelf or possibly even leased. A lend-lease deal with the US or UK, maybe? AND we need a long term plan for production of submarines. That can use a different design. Yes, that involves additional costs, duplication. But Australia has a huge maritime capacity deficit RIGHT NOW that needs to be fixed.

[@CabbageBloke]

@@w0mblemania No way in hell the UK would lease a sub, all of ours are in service and being used, (not counting the ones being constructed). Logically the first sub should be built in the UK whilst Oz engineers are brought up to speed in its construction. Waiting more time to train more people up to build them screws Oz over as the service life of their current subs gets longer and technology more antiquated.

[@grahamsowerby6087]

Where there is the possibility of a submarine in the area, dictators know that they cannot start a war without killing themselves! More Sub's please!

[@gardeyoyo]

More Chinese and Russian subs against genocidal regimes in Australia, UK and US.

[@roboticus71]

@@haraldyes9957 Oh yes; and what happened on the disputed border with India? 20 Indians killed. Oh I guess you believe that's Chinese territory just like the South China sea. Did you get paid 50 cents for that comment?

[@jonathanbaird8109]

@@haraldyes9957 Nice job on moving the goalposts. We can do that, too! While the rest of the world is fighting terrorism, China is doing... What? Stealing IP from other nations and eating house pets? Perhaps inventing some new Eastern medical remedies that will lead to the poaching of another African species like what happened with ivory?

[@nostalgichunter337]

@@jonathanbaird8109 you should stop making that stupid excuse like usa fighting terorism, they didnt fight it they created it

[@angusrogers760]

@@nostalgichunter337 so tru looks like their foreign policy is gonna go down another warmongering path now that imidietly after Afghanistan they are interested in the south pacific, they start a war on our doorstep in australia we will pay full price for it from China and the US

[@aaronbrooks5618]

All the relevant company’s are already based in Australia with BAE, THALES and Raytheon with a long cooperation history. The current Collins class have US weapons and combat systems so a British hull with US combat and weapons systems would make sense.

[@oldman2800]

And with China openly threatening Australia with nuclear attack develloping nuclear weapons should have been done by Oz twenty years ago

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

@@oldman2800 No.. China isn't doing that. They: A) don't have enough nuclear weapons to do so without compromising the deterrent capabilities they have B) They have always been a solely deterrent nuclear power. This is why their stockpile was around a couple hundred while the US and Russia have thousands. Besides all this, an actual nuclear attack by China on Australia would inevitably invite nuclear attack by the US on China, and China knows this. Only an imbecile truly believes China has any intention of possibly using a nuke on Australia.

[@arindamhalder5023]

@@Gustav_Kuriga do you really think, USA will drop a nuke on china and hope china wont drop a nuke on american soil?

[@arindamhalder5023]

@@Gustav_Kuriga dude it only take 1 nuclear missiles to destroy a country not 1000, get your facts right

[@dimwitsixtytwelve]

@@arindamhalder5023 Australia is a pretty damn big place, it won’t take a 1000 but more than one for sure. Also I think some people here are confused on what a nuclear sub is. It’s nuclear powered, not armed with nuclear weapons.

[@feetpiece_704]

Donate two or three mothballed 688's to the Aussie's to test drive before getting the keys to the Ferrari.

[@AUmarcus]

We've had subs since 1914 moron.

[@r9bet]

@@AUmarcus Australia has been operating Nuclear attack subs since 1914? Impressive.

[@AUmarcus]

@@r9bet Is that what I said? Ok.

[@rickjames18]

I think he was joking gents...

[@feetpiece_704]

@@rickjames18 I'm 100% cereal about the Aussie's getting mothballed Los Angeles boats. Every single 688 should be refurbished, rearmed and split between Taiwan and Australia.

[@pablopervguy4355]

using the term "nuclear fueled" is a misnomer. As nuclear fission is not a fuel per se. The correct term is "nuclear powered"

[@tehbest]

Wikipedia says the term "fuel" was originally meant to describe a material that can release chemical energy but has been applied to nuclear energy. For any useful meaning of the word there is no reason "nuclear fuel" should be a misnomer.

[@Delgen1951]

six of one, a half dozen of the other.

[@thebestevertherewas]

@@duiveldoder To be fair, he doesn't have that much experience in adding words as much as you Germans and some Indians like myself who know Sanskrit have.

[@russellmiles2861]

The issue is the UK and UK use 90% refined plutonium to keep submarine reactors small. They are not going to let another country use such nuclear material. Probably 40% refined plutonium which is not as energy efficient but adequate for small submarines that Australian will be looking at. The thing is the French already have this technology in service. They could have just change power plant with existing order and had them available sooner

[@billygibson2613]

Very good policy safer future generations and Australian defence against terrisom very good Australia ❤😊❤😊❤😊

[@simonnance]

I could see an Astute variant being used, with Aus crews learning on the in production existing UK hulls, and possibly even the first few 1-2 built in the UK in existing yards - Barrow can definitely have 3 hulls working at the same time based on existing timelines and currently only has the last 2 UK hulls laid down. Aus would taking a greater role on their own boat, particularly in the later stages as teams would have worked on 1-2 UK boats already. Meanwhile Australian yards are built/modified and the port infrastructure is put in place with heavy US support - the US getting what it wants (port access) ASAP, potentially with the ports serving US boats before Aus ones even launch. Aus crews embed with UK Astute boats on patrol from the get-go, maybe with some limited command level deployments on Virginia boats too to learn US operational procedures for mutual support purposes. As phases of UK built boats are completed, the workforce moves to Aus, with the UK team acting as support for some of the remaining boats, likely tapering depending on speciality with things like nuclear support continuing longer. Thus serves the UK as maintaining that skillset otherwise usually requires a new line of submarines at home (V class replacement helps with that). with delays in initial laying down, Aus facilities being ready to lay down their own boats - though that depends on how many the UK yard builds for Aus Vs Aus builds at home. Optimistically - 1-2 years to get agreement and materials in place to lay down a new Aus boat at Barrow, 12 years to build, launch and commission. So we're talking 2034 for an active service Aus boat at the speedy end of things. As Aus boats launch, initially mixed Aus/UK crews, particularly in specialist areas, with a handover over time. At peak, Astute had roughly a 3-4 year gap between commissioning of sequential boats, so by the time boat 3 commissions into active service the Aus navy will have had at least 16 years of Astute operational experience, likely more like 18-20. Slower if there is a delay in training Aus navy crews or Aus insists on building all boats in a home yard.

[@robertenglish5980]

I think you might see a UK built Virginia variant for Australia. When the UK was having difflculties with the Astute design and build, the US offered to license the design IIRC, just as we did with the Burke class DDGs. This would keep the UK yard in production ,and Australia will get the more capable SSN. A Virginia SSN carrying nuclear armed Tomahawks in some of its` VLS would give Australia a strategic deterrent.

[@garyhankinson5695]

S T N a very well thought out scenario. I was thinking along the same lines. Well said.

[@Conan-ny1um]

It will be built in America at General Dynamics Electric Boat submarine yards! No offense to our British friends but Australia needs these last month! And the UK would take far to long USA kicks out 4 subs a year and that’s half of its capability... Inthink this sub will be a cross between a Sea Wolf and Astute Class Sub! Sorry to break it to you. But UK is not a option it would be just like France and take way to long!

[@liambuchanan8904]

I could see it happening but it won’t be happening in barrow any time soon they are busy building dreadnought which is work for the next 20 years

[@simonnance]

@@robertenglish5980 a few problems with that: 1. The English yards don't have experience with a Virginia build, and re-tooling for a new class would likely be a PITA, especially for what would likely be a limited run before handing over to Aus yards - it's less likely Aus wants all 8 built overseas in my mind at least, but I could be wrong. Lots of production delays there, not to mention sorting a 3 way technology transfer. Aus build teams also couldn't learn on the in-progress Astutes, they could with the in-progress Virginia's but then they'd have to move 3 times (US->UK->Aus). Just too complex a solution for me, though given the nature of politics it often outputs a messy solution as a compromise, so not out of the question. 2. There is a big difference between Aus having nuclear powered submarines and nuclear warheads. It's not part of the NATO nuclear sharing and has no systems or structures for nuclear weapon storage or release. "One does not simply *hand over* nuclear weapons" even to a close ally. This one would also have a lot more global political fallout than just a nuclear reactor, they'd need to be added to NPT, or at least NATO nuclear weapon sharing, both with major barriers (especially given they've just pissed off France). Aus is also a signatory of the South Pacific Nuclear Free Zone Treaty. Based on that, even having nuclear armed Virginias based on Aus soil would be a breach.

[@OldFellaDave]

We (Australia) have suffered years of being unable to fully man our Collins Class sub fleet at various times. I'm guessing a new recruiting drive for Submariners will accompany this new decision and make the Astute Class seem the more likely option going forward due to its smaller crew than the US option. With the Collins class being extended out past 2030 it gives time for the new Aussie Astute's to be built as they take longer to build that the US option as well. This is a pretty solid deal for us and something well overdue.

[@The_Desert_Tiger]

I cant see a recruiting drive happening until designs are planned and they know how many people they need to man each sub.

[@stcredzero]

So, there's going to be an Aus-stute submarine?

[@druisteen]

We doesn"t know , maybe ir maybe not

[@SterlingArcher0]

@eLKy 15 there are no nuclear weapons involved whatsoever.

[@SterlingArcher0]

@Robert John yeah I’m inclined to agree with you on this, just pointing out to elky earlier that there were no nuclear weapons in the contract and the attack subs can’t launch trident ballistic missiles in the first place; a SSBN would we required as you said

[@The_Desert_Tiger]

@@SterlingArcher0 It's too early to say but the Australian F111s were outfitted to be able to take nuclear weapons if needed.

[@michaeloppenheimer2582]

And hopefully as nato in Europe has maintained the peace through strength hopefully this new South Pacific and treaty organization will keep the peace through strength avoiding a war with China and that China hopefully will turn to more peaceful pursuits !!!

[@Mixcoatl]

Shouldn't have taken this long. We should have done this years ago.

[@mexico4027]

Hahaha what? China kicked your country ass?

[@looinrims]

There wasn’t a perceived need back then

[@BobuxGuy]

@@mexico4027 +300 social credits have been added to your account

[@randomeastasian347]

@@mexico4027 Dang found a member of the 50 cent army. Is it worth the 5 credit score points? Lol moron

[@endurerable]

With tRUMP acting like a demented bull in the China shop? He cared only about bullying nations into trade deals to benefit himself.

[@OfficerOtto]

I love your channel, Binkov, some of the best content on KZbin. The Pacific version of NATO will be interesting to watch in it's development phase, and I am looking forward to your analysis of it.

[@01ZombieMoses10]

Assuming that he is not already, I'm fairly surprised that Binkov is not a real world military intelligence analyst for a world-power government.

[@onlyplaysveigar7241]

The US probably has a vast network of expertise on any type of subject on hand, probably better than the likes of Binkov.

[@kennethferland5579]

Government Smoverment, if he's got real aspriation he would work for Janes Defence.

[@owencarter1973]

We've just found out that Australia approached the UK first for help. We may be one of the 'closest allies' of the US but to describe the UK as merely 'allies' would be a disservice to the closeness of the abiding Australian-UK relationship.

[@carwyngriffiths]

It’s binkov what did you expect?

[@westay4924]

Realistically it was the UK who pushed for this with the Australia

[@kordellswoffer1520]

And a wise move.

[@ricardosmythe2548]

The astute run has just finished, makes sense to run a few more off 🤷‍♂️

[@BERSERCŒUR]

@@kordellswoffer1520 as wise as making 50 peace treaties with Hitler, pure stupid anglo saxon logic right here let's betray an ally to annoy an enemy

[@waardlafrance110]

Boris has forgotten that his submariners are partly trained in France and that often it is the French Navy that has to send him its specialists to ensure the transition of personnel or to fill the gaps for various reasons. It would be funny if Macron stopped this exchange treaty. ^^

[@archiecroft7114]

Waard La France That’s absolute bollocks BAE systems are some of the best shipbuilders in the world and rolls Royce provide all the reactors the last thing the U.K. needs is the slow incompetent french government near our submarines

[@mynameismin3]

What a special day for Aussies. Momenteous occassion! Finally! And we have Xi to thank. If he want such a dangerous mad man we probebly never would have made the leap.

[@wishfulguy4819]

Lol. USD66 billion? Even they spend another 300 billion yet they are nowhere. The MIC USA just robbed Australian tax payer money not to mention all those exports that being taken over by the USA. Read the infamous Pompeo Line - Lied, Cheated n Robbed. You will die of economy choking b4 anything else. Use the 66 billion for aiding ur Australians when the tide comes. Congratulation to Australia for the contributions.

[@jedilordlog8543]

@@wishfulguy4819 Little Wumao mad?

[@vennsim71]

Somehow, that spelt the end of Australian-Chinese trades…

[@petersinclair3997]

@@wishfulguy4819 COVID has impacted the Australian economy somewhat, but Oz GDP is still growing. There are advisers who suggest Australia’s defence spending to 3.5% of GDP. That’s a lot of money. Australia can afford it. AAA Stable country credit rating.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

Dangerous mad man? ahh child - you've never seen a dangerous mad man in action or you'd already be at war.

[@ThaFunkster100]

Hey Binkov, now that Australia is buying new nuclear subs, JASM, LRASM, Tomahawk and F35s, maybe you could revist this China vs Australia video in a near future scenario?

[@marknorville9827]

It would never happen, you have so much early warning satellites now that war is almost impossible. You also have the fact that China has a lot of trade with Australia and the rest of the World. If everyone stopped buying Chinese then it would hurt them more than war would. You also have 4,000 plus miles between China and Australia so it would be easy to meet them mid way and just sink the lot of them. I am ex military, and the chances of a war between China and Russia are very slim. You are fed bullshit that these are your enemies, however it is the united states of arseholes that feed you that bullshit. The us does not like it when someone beats them, especially in economy.

[@horusfalcon]

@@marknorville9827 Ahem... never say never. A leadership crazy enough is capable of horrifying decisions and outcomes. There seems to be no shortage of crazy anywhere in the world at this point. We might even agree that the leadership in the U.S. since the late seventies might just be head of the crazy list, too. (That is truly terrifying.)

[@galupas]

The Chinese army consists of panty waisted single child, spoilt little emperors who run at the first sight of aggression. They tried to have a go at India and had the crap flogged out of them. They have no aircraft that fly and their subs are that noisy that they can be detected miles away. Forget about them, it's all piss and wind propaganda to deceive their brain dead populace.

[@ThaFunkster100]

@@galupas The biggest mistake you can make in war is underestimating your enemy. I am not so quick to dismiss the Chinese military.

[@galupas]

@@ThaFunkster100 I've been monitoring China for a few years now and they really screwed themselves up with their one child policy because it backfired on them big time. They have a reducing work for and an aging population that needs to be cared for, who will pay for this? Their skilled labour force is going down the drain and they are heading for a major economic collapse. Don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself.

[@tigerpjm]

Refreshing to see a solid analysis of the situation. I think you're spot on when it comes to the machinery that Australia will buy, it's almost certainly the Astute. What are the alternatives? The Virginia is too big and arguably not a good fit for the shallow littorals around SE Asia that the Australian boats will spend a decent amount of time operating in. The Astute class is that little bit smaller and as mentioned, has lower manning requirements. I believe, possibly erroneously, that the reason that the Americans are involved is that the UK is still bound by the agreement not to transfer technology that was handed to them in the 1958 deal between the US and the UK. That is in addition to all of the factors raised in the video regarding basing. Interesting side note - during WWII, Perth (Fremantle) was the biggest submarine base in the Pacific outside of Pearl Harbour. Around 40% of Allied submarine missions in the Pacific were launched from Fremantle.

[@kirkc9643]

Our 6 current subs are based at HMAS Stirling and US subs still visit too

[@richwashere168]

The aussies use US systems on their current subs and planned to use US systems on the subs they were buying from France. So the US will be supplying the weapons systems, maybe reactor tech, and i guarantee the US will supply money for this.

[@tigerpjm]

@@richwashere168 The US hasn't, to my knowledge, ever supplied money to any Australian procurement program. To be honest I don't see why they would here either.

[@Destroyer_V0]

@@tigerpjm I could see it being done if a strong enough case was made that it was in the intrests of the american people to support turning australia into a fortress, and keeping any potential conflict away from american shores...

[@tigerpjm]

@@Destroyer_V0 Sorry, what do you think is going on here? The issue isn't whether the U.S. would "allow" Australia Virgina SSNs, it is whether they would be the best choice for Australia. The answer is, no, they wouldn't be. Australia doesn't need to chase Akulas through the depths of the oceans or SSBNs under ice caps. Australia needs smaller, more wields boats suited to shallow waters with good endurance and less crew.

[@fludblud]

Agree with Binkov, I know of a few British engineers that would instantaneously drop everything for a chance to immigrate to Australia if their careers needed it.

[@Smithy250]

I'd go for the work but can't imagine many wanting to stay..

[@julesmarwell8023]

Aust will greet you with open arms

[@ssgus3682]

Pure speculation but I also wonder if potentially in the US would loan the Australian Navy some retired Los Angeles class votes that are still on good shape.

[@SherLock55]

There are already rumours floating around that Aus will indeed lease LA class subs and it definitely makes sense for a number of reasons.

[@aymonfoxc1442]

I doubt it, the current Collins Class subs are going to receive more upgrades in the mean time. I think this less about a nuclear need and more about standardisation among allies, owing to the growing probability of conflict. Besides, we'll have to train some nuclear physicists / engineers for the Navy. We can't very well crew subs with university academics and medical nuclear scientists.

[@irontongue5389]

Truly amazing news. I just hope that China doesn't decide to act/react somehow before Australia can complete their nuke sub builds. China can do a lot of physical & economic damage in the 15-20+ years it'd take to design & complete all 8 attack subs.

[@SavageMontreal]

Hopefully, the US sees this and diverts their own production to build up Australia's fleet. After all, if war breaks out, we are going to be on the frontlines with China, and the US will need us just as much as we need them.

[@thebravegallade731]

china could... but US can hurt them more then china can hurt the US.

[@lukefoale8381]

Remember this, almost all CCP "wolf warrior" posturing is to mask internal weaknesses and/or strife. That's not to say it isn't dangerous, it bloody well is, and it's only going to get more dangerous in the coming years.

[@wattlebough]

Are they not building 12 attack submarines for the Australians? The original contract with the French Naval Group was for 12 diesel- electric subs for the Royal Australian Navy.

[@xuchen4012]

@@lukefoale8381 China looks soft = weak, China looks tough = mask weakness. Anglos are tired of winning again and again. China never engaged a war since 1979 = dangerous. US killed hundreds of thousands of civilians across the world = innocent. Anglos are tired of being hurted. lmao.

[@gregparrott]

Interesting assessment of where this development could lead.

[@AsttoScott]

Binkov is incorrect. We have two nuclear reactors at Lucas Heights, an old one and a new one.

[@tacitdionysus3220]

Sort of. New one in operation. Decommissioning of the old one started in 2007, for completion in 2025.

[@bigaeinstein3083]

Good give my Australian ally's good weapons, they follow the USA all the time. They have been our worthiest ally's and should have all the advanced tech and weapons we have.

[@Z-add]

@@bigaeinstein3083 yes Australia sucking up to USA should be rewarded.

[@olivegrove2615]

correct 👍

[@steveascension9626]

France has only itself to blame. If they had not stalled & mucked around on their build the deal would have gone through. They knew what the geo political situation Australia was in, but they moved too slow.

[@bastienmim1167]

nono ^^ as always , for every problems around the world , UK or US are the main actors. for centuries now. who creating this rivalty about world vs china do you think ? US/UK create the problem ,then offer the solution.

[@steveascension9626]

@@bastienmim1167 Historically your not correct. The USA has only been a dominate actor on the world stage since 1917 after they endured heavy loses in merchant shipping by German attacks, so Wilson asked congress to declare war on Germany. The USA stayed out of WWII till late December 1941 & only after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. As a democracy the USA has resisted communism because of it's terrible past record of genocide within it's own heavily controlled peoples. The statically appalling numbers of people murdered within these systems are terrible & horrific. Yes the UK has been around for many years, but it has an evolving history of change as recognized as the British commonwealth of nations. The big actors on the world stage is now the EU which is basically run by France & Germany. China on the other hand is a look alike Germany, pre WWII with it's rhetoric almost matching that of Adolph Hitler.

[@jimrobinson6478]

Australia purposely wanted to antagonize China since they have Big Brother behind them.

[@bastienmim1167]

@@steveascension9626 mexico, cuba, philipina, indians... When? Ww1 was not the start of their imperialism. Like many , ok, but many have changed, not US nor UK. And dont compare China as the 3rd reich.... Actual USA is closer to the 3rd reich external politics than China. I dont watch what they say on TV but the actions

[@steveascension9626]

@@bastienmim1167 What part of China do you live in? Your English is not so good!

[@bigarmydave]

Two misplaced comments. The Astute class is not less advanced. The US didn't just give its reactor technologies away, both countries swapped expertise.

[@mattmichael2441]

On paper that is often the case for primarily political reasons regardless of actuality

[@dissmr]

Nuclear subs is American technology shared with Brits first. They are also using Rolls-Royce as production. It's ok if British are not first at something.. relax. I'm European..I think its good for British and Australia

[@bigarmydave]

@@dissmr My comment wasn't patriotic. It was more matter of fact. At the time, both UK/US were more advanced in different sectors (Nuclear weapons/reactors/research and the like) so they swapped technologies.

[@sc1338]

@@bigarmydave ok what did the British swap?

[@wadopotato33]

This is true, but the idea that they have been equal partners is false. The US was so far ahead of Britain when it came to Nuclear submarines that the treaty was signed because the US wanted an ally to help counter the Soviet Union and not because the US needed UK's help with submarine building. The US wanted the UK to catch up so that they could help. The first nuclear sub reactor was given to the UK. The Astute Class is not less advanced. They are pretty equal all things said. And if one had an advantage, no one could spread that anyway because these things are highly classified.

[@JohnDoe-fp1tv]

Makes the most sense to go with the Astute class. The UK will have free building yards and personnel to build them soon, whereas the US is focused on building sub for themselves so they will not. The Astute class is already a big jump in boat size and crew size from the Collins, the Virginia class is just huge in boat size/crew size compared to the Collins. Australia will have to drastically increase its total sub personal size just to get 6 Astute class boats in the water to replace the Collins, let alone getting more than 6 and Australia has a long record of difficulties in maintaining enough sub crew members. Personally I think the Virginia class boats are out simply because they are too large.

[@Patriot60911]

Good on Australia. Better to get better tech from US and UK.

[@druisteen]

why ??

[@MY-zj8pb]

Stupid buy by Australia. Better money spent elsewhere. More fighters, diesel subs or destroyers

[@mwtrolle]

Don’t think you can say nuclear are better, but they are clearly better for what Australia needs it for.

[@MarkHyde]

And the F-35 program LMAO :)

[@mwtrolle]

@@MY-zj8pb you can’t know what you talk about. Diesel electric are better to defend a relatively small area of water. It have always been a problem with the diesel electric subs ordered from France, even after they were enlarged to give better range. Australia are huge and if it need to help US, India, Japan or Taiwan in their local waters or in the SCS they need even bigger range.

[@BOGOWA22]

It's all but confirmed that Aussie subs will be based on Virginia-class SSN. The easiest way forward is prob to station the four Hawaii-based Block 1 in Australia and gradually show Aussie the rope & know-how.

[@cgmason7568]

The press releases are saying stationed on west coast

[@cerealport2726]

@@cgmason7568 Collins class subs are already based on the Western Australian coast. No particular need to move them, unless the Navy decides it needs to.

[@cgmason7568]

@@cerealport2726 I mean the nuclear subs, Aus doesn't have the industry to support it

[@iangrantham8300]

If YOU know what is confirmed you are doing better than the interested parties, whatever it is based on , as to US bases in Australia they just dont have any . Blonkov is full of wind......smelly wind. Amd technically it will be the THIRD biggest but probably at least the most equal in technology and maybe even a bit more advanced.

[@pepermintpilot1694]

What's your source?

[@informationcollectionpost3257]

The only question I have is; how willing is Australia to foot the bills and expenses associated with maintaining a nuclear sub fleet? There is a huge deference in cost between operating an AIP fleet and a nuclear fleet. Although an off the wall suggestion of a flouride, thorium salt reactor for the Australian sub. It's small, compact, high temperature and has no pressurized components in the reactor area. It also produces a far less toxic nuclear waste. Then again a large automated AIP sub could prove more economical. The thorium based sub reactor should lead to the technology for a civilian electric power plant too.

[@PaxSierra]

My guess would be that the design of the whole boat Inc the reactors will be a tried and tested design currently in use by USN, and the reactor will built in US and installed in Australia "mil off the shelf". Then send back to US once every 25 years for swap out of reactor for a Freshie.

[@tranquilitybase8100]

The Australians will almost certainly go for a off the shelf solution. After 5 years of work the French program was already 18 months behind schedule and stuck in the design phase. The last thing Australia will want is any risk of delay. A new, custom, exotic reactor design is the very definition of Extremely High Risk.

[@Wargunsfan]

@@tranquilitybase8100 The rent paid by the U.S. and U.K. for naval bases in Australia should offset costs somewhat.

[@informationcollectionpost3257]

@@tranquilitybase8100 Personally, I would have just bought the Soryu AIP sub from Japan perhaps with weapon modifications for cruise missiles in addition to torpedoes.

[@patrickalford1278]

Great news for Australia. One one main advantage of having nuclear submarines is energy security.

[@boggisthecat]

When Australia can’t refuel the reactors? Yeah, right...

[@MaxFromSydney1]

I think Patrick Alford was referring to not having to constantly worry about getting the diesel to run diesel / electric subs.

[@dan7564]

@@boggisthecat Well, with the new UK and US reactors they can apparently run for 3 decades which is probably enough time to establish a civilian industry if we reeeeeealy wanted too. But it's hard to imagine a timeline in the next half century where both the US and UK would be willing to use the reactors as leverage to make us do something we'd probably be doing anyway. Edit: and to contrast this with the 7 year life of the French submarines reactors, and the less geopolitical Goals that France has with Australia compared to the UK and US, the French, realistically, would be far more likely to leverage that over Australia. The US, if somehow it needed to, could play the leverage card once, at the end of it's life cycle before Australia could build an industry.

[@boggisthecat]

@@dan7564 They are using weapons-grade U-235 as fuel. Jesus H Christ. I’m sure that’s completely not dangerous… Difficult to see France having a beef with Australia. The US, however, wants to cordon off China and Russia. Australian trade: China: US$90.6 billion (43% of total Australian exports), Japan: $19 billion (9%), United States: $13.1 billion (6.2%) …

[@kdrapertrucker]

France has a lot of nerve to complain, they were overrunning costs on the austrailian subs by 75%.

[@Marth667]

Its a classic MO of the military industrial complex, since many a nation doesn't have they're own weapon military industry they buy outside of their country this means increase cost for a variety of issues. To make the most amount of money however first you have to under bid your kit, say it cost 1B for a ship, you say its going to cost 800M instead, then when you've lied and stolen the contract from other contractors you then have 'mysterious' budget blow outs for literally any reason and now that 1B ship costs 1.5B. You've made 500M per ship, that's a 50% profit margin already let alone of there aren't other 'mysterious' budget blow outs.

[@LXHFIRENKING]

If a US military equipment development program only overruns cost by 75%, it would be considered quite fortunate...

[@johanlassen6448]

@@LXHFIRENKING Really? Give me one example of a US export project having such cost overruns. Because I can give you several French ones.

[@francoism2232]

@@johanlassen6448 The F35 program

[@johanlassen6448]

@@francoism2232 F-35 is becoming cheaper by the day and did not fail to deliver.

[@tsangarisjohn]

This was a smart move. France needs to chill on this. This is about keeping China in check. I’m sure France can get involved in time after some talk.

[@fredh8065]

Why does everything have to be to keep China on check. The real threat is the Anglo Saxon who have bases everywhere. You are nothing more but just brainwashed.

[@wishfulguy4819]

You already hv so many Warships at SCS n still unchecked. Do not be manipulated by USA. It is all about business for USA MIC. The USA is supreme n they shud able to defence its Allies. Dragging Australia n the rests came with a price. Your tax payer money will land in their pockets. 5 EYes, Quads, G7, G20 n finally the 3 Stooges. Just read Pompeo famous line. They lied by creating sensations, cheat thru convincing you need sophisticated arms and robbed finally thru implementation. Even Aust spend another Usd300 billion will not make any different. You just contribute to MIC coffer. Wake up Australian. It will be happening to India n Japan too.

[@inwedavid6919]

After such a betray it is not sure that France will go to thrust again US. It is not the first time and with the afgan withdral it is the second betrail of Biden. Now there is election enxt year and far right, pro russia and anti otan people are given as winer, with this bad deal it is a problem to be re elected as president and le Pen will be elected and Frange get enemy of the US.

[@musph5478]

No that was a very dumb move. Backstabing that much your long time ally is not smart. Australia have lost their credibility, while the UK and the US have simply lost all trust that was left after the trump backstabs. First rules of keeping allies is to not shit on them while they have their back turned... (Le Pen is never going to be elected though, she is too incompetdnt, people don't need her to be pissed at the US)

[@wishfulguy4819]

Funny though. U need so many to contain China while you claim ur supremacy? It is just another of your infamous line USA lies, cheats n steal business strategies. Those who are depending on USA will hv to pay their shares. No free meals after all.

[@ronmaximilian6953]

Makes sense. The Hunter class frigates will be based on the British Type 26 Frigate with some Australian and American systems and American weapons

[@navalfocus]

@ Type 26 hull is designed to be as quiet as possible. A destroyer hull should never try and moonlight as a specialist ASW platform.

[@ridiredubh9987]

You got it one for the most part it’s all about China. Recently the Australian government has been ramping up recruiting drives, a lot more adds about joining the military and the relatively massive overhaul of the military, then you add the new nuclear subs. The next few years are going to be very interesting

[@henrylloyd8265]

UK’s involvement in this is so underrated we’re not in it solely for the subs…

[@blake9908]

What do you mean?

[@multatuli1]

@@blake9908 I'm guessing they're trying to invade Papua, Indonesia. There's a massive resources and unstable government in there. They did that to East Timor before too.

[@oj3458]

Ye rolls royce will be making some of the nuclear engines. And royal navy crews will be used and maybe even vice versa as aussies and brits are transferred sometimes. Don’t know why i watch binkov he’s not very good no offence to him

[@noobster4779]

The UK is in everything their bosses in Washington command them to be in lol

[@oj3458]

@@noobster4779 no its up to the Australian’s

[@paulojoseph4790]

Just a correction: Brazil is a non nuclear power, but the brazilian navy is building a nuclear powered submarine, the SN Álvaro Alberto, so it is not tjhe first time that has happenned

[@linkincsar269]

😐🤔 I.... did not know that 👌

[@tdb7992]

Honestly, I could kiss those Americans and Brits for helping us out! They have really helped us out by handing over this tech and helping us stand up to China. Most of the subs will be built in Adelaide which is the main base for the defence industry in Australia. I believe the sub's home base will be near Perth in WA so that it has clean access to the Indian Ocean.

[@rogerexwood6608]

Days after the AUKUS news broke, this is still a good an analysis as I’ve seen. ‘Chapeau’ seems to be the appropriate word in the circumstances 😉. One comment, I believe the UK SSNs have, simply by being smaller, been in demand over the years for operations in more constricted waters and for special forces work.

[@machiavellianoverture1747]

hahahaha chapeau indeed. France can handle it or they could try for a fourth republic or empire or something. I see whats going on in the bush to their cardinal south

[@joeytheprince]

We could have let France in but that would cause a FrAUKUS.

[@michaeldobson107]

Definitely. Pronounced "fracas", as in "a noisy disturbance or quarrel." lol

[@inwedavid6919]

is it clever to do an alliance on this area and tell one of the main actor of the Area not to be part of it. It is not only a betrail but also a way to signify to France that she is a second level ally and not worth be implied into the global strategy of defense

[@sdfgjvnfgfkstjg]

@@inwedavid6919 France would be useless anyway, they'd just surrender.

[@inwedavid6919]

@@sdfgjvnfgfkstjg Classic french bashing, where was australia in 1939? And US? certainly not at war. They came only because the Nazi makes war on US. They don't really care about helping the others.

[@inwedavid6919]

@@sdfgjvnfgfkstjg if you go that way, isn't US loose Vietnam war? Somalia, Afgnanistan? not tired to create war every where and loose it all?

[@EmilioBaldi]

Nuclear submarines, even with the CHINA promo code, are expensive, specially if everything is outsourced. The British know the costs very well.

[@dhurjatinarayangiri1590]

Nuclear Submarine are cheap When you use them for long range mission

[@EmilioBaldi]

@@dhurjatinarayangiri1590 Nuclear Submarine are cheap is an oxymoron...regardless of the context. Especially for the UK it is also a way to try to recover the costs of their program (which was a bloodbath, financially speaking).

[@TheFreshman321]

The U.K. signed a contract to start the planning phase for the Astute replacement with BAE and Rolls Royce. So to say the our engineers will be twiddling their thumbs is wrong Binkov.

[@JKK_85]

That's only design phase, likely a mostly different workforce.

[@chrisdechristophe]

@@JKK_85 it kind of depends on if they want more astute class or something modified.

[@damianc80]

It’s not about American interests it’s about freedom from Chinese threats

[@rodbutler8069]

This agreement also involves Australia becoming a nuclear submarine support base for both UK and US which is more important than future submarines for Australia.

[@FairladyS130]

Definately, the CCP has made all this politically acceptable in Australia now which was the only thing keeping the nuclear door closed.

[@junlee8249]

As a paraguayan with korean and japanese parents i like this

[@fer-gm5qp]

Jaja yo tambien soy paraguayo xd, hablas español?

[@junlee8249]

@@fer-gm5qp obvio, fue el primer idioma que aprendi, cuando creci un poco empece a aprender el idioma de mis padres xD

[@fer-gm5qp]

@@junlee8249 genial, saludos desde la ciudad de luque 👍👍

[@junlee8249]

@@fer-gm5qp igualmente desde el este del pais 🤙

[@rrsharizam]

What is a paraguayan?

[@i-love-space390]

"....countering Chinese activities against U.S interests...." I don't know about you, but I think in this case Chinese activities are not just in opposition to U.S. interests, but more like the interests of almost any country in the Asian hemisphere. You can just bet that anything China does for any nation, it comes with strings and major bullying. I can see that getting the Australians into Nuclear Submarine building will help America in that the U.S. will no longer have to shoulder the whole load of balancing the Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy. Your idea about bringing in the British would be a great idea. People that want to draw down the military in the U.S., UK, and other nations have no idea about maintaining a technology base. No country can just start building world class aircraft and ships from no where. And once you lose a manufacturing capability, there is a long learning curve to regain it.

[@wongyoonchark5050]

China also can build more nuclear submarines surround Australia.

[@waynemorgan6153]

The alliance makes sense. All of them have history in previous military engagements and being on the same side. They all have similar culture, same language and same dominant religion. I just find it funny how China can build up its military exponentially but then they cry when others take active measures to try and defend against it. The French being upset is just funny.

[@looinrims]

The French being upset is just retarded France is constantly like “wah america bad!” And then when america is like “okay we’ll just leave them out” France is now “wah they didn’t include us! MOOOOOOM!”

[@looinrims]

@Drew Peacock they screwed France how? I’m still missing what the French are crying about

[@looinrims]

@Drew Peacock okay…and? Military procurement falls through sometimes, it happens, and the aussies are getting the same price tag with higher quality results, I still don’t get how it’s a ‘stab in the back’

[@kingsley3208]

@@looinrims because there was massive French investment into the program and according to reports they were not told until the day before the public announcement. It was bad diplomacy.

[@kingsley3208]

Just as Keating said yesterday Australia is still looking for protection from Asia rather than protection within.

[@pac1fic055]

Commissar Binkov has many busy years ahead.

[@dreaminknight]

As the undertaker in case of WW3...

[@gaah2296]

I am proud to be Aussie

[@yaz2928]

The French government is seething over this and has condemned Biden for acting like Trump did previously. This should be interesting.

[@CH3353N1NJ45]

Only because Macron is still in bed with Brussels

[@jedilordlog8543]

maybe Australia had enought seeing the program was 10 years behind scedule

[@danielelombardo8196]

@@CH3353N1NJ45 of course he is lmao France is a eu member.

[@CH3353N1NJ45]

@@danielelombardo8196 That means he is in bed with the Kalergi plan

[@bonobonorman9658]

Overseas reactions: It is quite farcical that the shady French Navales Group known for past corrupt behaviour is now infuriated towards USA(!) for this "thankful divorce" in the Australia-French collaboration after Australia have been in bed with them for five years and not one weld has been welded! WTF? Too much French cheeses and wine? Also, the all too predictable CCP Chinese response is of course disingenuous coming from a ruthless wolf-diplomacy dictatorship that is busy building itself the mightiest military force in the world. The aim of the PLA is not self-defence, the aim is to be able to project itself globally over land and sea in a "hot-war" anywhere. CCP Chinas claim that Australia is stuck in a cold war mentality is clearly a result of the cold wolf-war diplomacy that CCP China has initiated towards many countries, including Australia for "asking the wrong question". CCP China stops at nothing and uses cross-border kidnappings, hostage diplomacy and fake convictions behind locked doors and blackened windows using "laws" that are in reality military decrees issued from the Red Emperors court high above. Consequently, CCP China have more judicial executions than the rest of the worlds legal systems put together. The preferred CCP execution location is near a hospital and with a bullet to the neck so most organs can be freshly cannibalised for a profitable CCP supported transplant trade. This has become the only way parts of Hong Kong students can travel the world today. As the old saying goes " late shall the sinners awaken" and the scrapping this week of the bizarre French submarine "business" is indeed costly and late in the game, but extremely welcome in the interest of Australian future defence security. Lets' hope the start of this re-think will also accommodate some flexible and realistic creative thinking, to start with a separate Australian Submarine Command, Virginian submarine imports, submarine base-construction and Collins's conversions beginning this year!

[@Harldin]

A quick update. It looks like the announcement will take place in Washington in mid-March with all 3 leaders present, it will be a trilateral solution and there is now very strong speculation it will be a brand-new design to be adopted by all 3 partners.

[@raysubsonic]

I would also expect imminent reversal of the sale of Australian port facilities to Chinese companies.

[@choatus]

keep your friends close and your enemies closer....

[@jimrobinson6478]

That's stupid. Would make it harder to get exports out of Australia to China.

[@ohlordy9680]

'Anglos caused most of the world's problems' (David Cameron, British Prime Minister, 2010-2016). Anglo caused centuries-long notorious global - - Slavery, - Colonialism, - Colonization, - World War I, - World War II, and the list goes on. Among the five main Anglo nations of Britain, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, all but Britain is looted from others. 🤔 For truths, pls read informative multi-pages 'Ole Fella' comment on KZbin at, "China-US tensions: A closer look at the 'Five-Eyes' intelligence partnership / CGTN": kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmfRnHSMmsyeZsk

[@choatus]

@@ohlordy9680 You think all these things didn't exist before? none of them are limited to Anglo saxon's You are seriously talking out of your ass mate!!!

[@guillermoelnino]

don't worry. Australia would sooner nuke the unvaccinated than nuke china.

[@RaedanWulfe]

3:06 Is that Comic Sans? On a military related PowerPoint? Really now? If ever there was a shooting offence...

[@RaedanWulfe]

@Ashton Robson True, but so is Arial, which is dominant in the domain. The thing is to make characters that are well distinguishable and doesn't cause long blank vertical gaps. Comic Sans' is uniquely good for only two things, low resolution CRT monitors and making UI designers want to wash their teeth with acid.

[@NikovK]

The real kicker? The spelling of "Comparaison". France, seat of culture and artistic flourishing for the West, has fallen to the jackboot of Comic Sans.

[@Hmmmmmmmm320]

If 1776 could see us now. The English are getting the band back together. But different

[@timphillips9954]

@allgangstalkerswillburninhell The Irish are British like it or not they live on one of the British isles!

[@jasonmason6910]

@allgangstalkerswillburninhell same shit

[@ScottyShaw]

@allgangstalkerswillburninhell This is a meritocracy. The only rightful heirs to the US are those who become elite. Ancestry is bullshit if the descendants fall out of the elite.

[@ScottyShaw]

@allgangstalkerswillburninhell Do you really not know that the United States is fundamentally different from most other countries? Most of those countries, especially those in the Old World, are built around a primary ethnicity, whereas the United States isn't. In any case, I speak other languages fluently and have lived in several countries for long stretches, so I already know how several other countries operate.

[@MrBelmont79]

French people, ask yourself Are you willing to go to war to defend Australia? The USA is willing so it’s only fair that they get a say on military needs🙄 France should be more worried about defending its pacific colonies than losing a military contract.

[@The_Desert_Tiger]

They should be willing to go to war to defend Australia since France is full of Australian blood that fought to free them from the nazis.

[@user-yo8ab1ys9e]

Good. I can’t wait to see these new subs fly the RAN flag. Also, both China and France being pissed off is the icing on the cake.

[@tzone40]

China has nuclear weapons for 57 years and nuclear powered submarines for 43 years.

[@antipropo461]

Well don't wait up late waiting it'll be 20 years or more before one turns up 🙄

[@user-yo8ab1ys9e]

@@antipropo461 I know it might be a while, unless we can lease/buy some subs from either the UK or the US, depending on which sub we do end up getting.

[@liewjames2852]

He who laughs last laughs best. Australia is doomed.

[@jamessmith1652]

and Indonesia. And numerous other countries in the area. Why start a new cold war? This is not about defending Australian interests, it's about being the US government's lapdog.

[@Runninlejit]

Getting the band back togeather. Love from Australia

[@epictetusofhierapolis4461]

That hand puppet kills me every time it makes an appearance!! 😂

[@terrystephens1102]

Seriously, why would you invest billions of dollars In a century old propulsion system ? Whilst I understand France’s disappointment in losing their contract with Australia, their sub building program is late and over budget by billions.

[@francoism2232]

Australia wanted diesel propulsion. France builds and use atomic subs since years.

[@Drizzleize]

Pardon us for not seeing France as a good partner in Southeast Asia. 😂😂😂

[@abraham2172]

France is a great partner. Theyre at least as good as a partner as UK.

[@inwedavid6919]

@@abraham2172 you can't say like Biden "france is an essential ally" and not including them into the alliance. Also betrayed them in comemrcial contract,, this is just a deal steal, nothing more.

[@strategosopsikion8576]

In a way, this kinda shows that the British empire is still alive. UK, US, AUS and Canada are very close allies and were all once part of said empire. They’re cooperation is probably some of the closest ever seen in history.

[@jacksonbuckley4367]

the anglosphere is still very much a thing

[@kevinshort3943]

Five eyes. An intelligence co operation leftover from WW2 - US, UK, Aus, Can and NZ

[@jasonmason6910]

Sadly yeah you have a point.

[@silverhost9782]

It's something of a small victory for brexiteers, as it shows that France and the EU are not necessarily going to be included in Anglosphere events and operations. We may even see the two evolve into two separate blocs eventually

[@stephenharvey4138]

The sun never sets on the British Empire. It doesn't set on AUKUS either.

[@bodasactra]

This is a strategic decision that involves an overall trilateral pacific policy beyond subs and secret tech. A powerful first rate Australian naval capability greatly enhances U.S. and U.K. capabilities.

[@davidbrisbane7206]

Well, I think it is Australia's plan to downgrade its surface fleet, as it doesn't need one to defend Australia. However, I am sure the US will pay some of the costs for the boats if Australia operations the boats and shares intelligence that US boats would normally do, or would wish to do, if it had enough boats.

[@bodasactra]

@@davidbrisbane7206 Count on it, the heart of this deal is far reaching for Australia's deterrent role.

[@dericofdorking]

Hey Binkov, good to rewatch this video again after the latest announcement which gives more details about the AUKUS nuclear sub program. $300 billion + being spent on training, infrastructure, designing and building the new subs as well as buying second subs from USA. It's an eye-watering amount, would appreciate your analysis again.