China’s latest nuclear attack subs are not a joke anymore.

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11 ай бұрын

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For the longest time, literally since the 1970s, Chinese nuclear fuel powered submarines have been regarded as a joke by a lot of western militaries. Today, China seems to have started building another subvariant of its 093 nuke attack subs. And this time around, it seems its capabilities are getting fairly close to US ones. This video will try to shed a bit more light on it all.
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@Binkov
@Binkov 11 ай бұрын
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@RazorM97
@RazorM97 11 ай бұрын
Joe Biden sending that nuclear sub towards south korea to deter china aged fine like wine
@waitingforanalibi2224
@waitingforanalibi2224 11 ай бұрын
It is NOT a pump jet.
@donniebrookins6215
@donniebrookins6215 11 ай бұрын
Chinese junk will sink as fast
@jhrusa8125
@jhrusa8125 11 ай бұрын
How would you know? Is chinese subs or a bigger joke Then your opinions. China is a dying nation with bad pegeography.
@NATObait
@NATObait 11 ай бұрын
Binkov the first Pump Jet was trialed on HMS Churchill before it was fitted on the Swiftsure Class ( all but the lead boat of that class ) so UK subs used Pump Jet propulsion since mid 70s before the US also choose a similar configuration.
@J_X999
@J_X999 11 ай бұрын
China's military isn't better than the US, but it's not a paper tiger. This comment basically sums up the inevitable war in Binkov's comment sections.
@joseolivarra7791
@joseolivarra7791 11 ай бұрын
Chinese soldier dont even have body armor crucial in saving a soldiers life china dont care because they can replace their losses by just throwing bodies at the problem
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 11 ай бұрын
I think the thing is can China kill enough Americans and destroy enough equipment to make the US cease with a conflict in the area? No one expects Chinese paratroopers jumping into California. Post gulf war 1 the US expects minor casualties and losses in a war. Could the US populus stomatch losing a carrier with 5000 hands? China has the advantage that it can to a degree hide the impact of loses from its people and while the one child policy has doomed future population numbers they still have bodies to throw at problems. Hopefully it will never happen anyway
@prasanth2601
@prasanth2601 11 ай бұрын
Fair point. Eventually everything comes down to tech superiority and we all know who is pioneer in this area
@J_X999
@J_X999 11 ай бұрын
@@prasanth2601 A technological edge might not be enough for the US. Like Binkov said, China is catching up unprecedentedly.
@prasanth2601
@prasanth2601 11 ай бұрын
@@J_X999 The thing is China is playing catch up. A country can catch up other but outperforming is a big issue. Not to mention much of US tech is classified.
@casbot71
@casbot71 11 ай бұрын
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@casbot71
@casbot71 11 ай бұрын
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@fakenamejones4254
@fakenamejones4254 11 ай бұрын
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@casbot71
@casbot71 11 ай бұрын
​@Fake Name Jones I am a bot, and I _always_ lie ...
@KonradvonHotzendorf
@KonradvonHotzendorf 11 ай бұрын
I want some action before he disables the comments 😊
@zakiulrifat6913
@zakiulrifat6913 11 ай бұрын
Man i hate this comment section.
@realdreamerschangetheworld7470
@realdreamerschangetheworld7470 11 ай бұрын
As much fun as we poke... Nuclear subs were never a joke, to be fair
@paulsteaven
@paulsteaven 11 ай бұрын
Agree. No matter how noisy or quiet nuclear subs are, they're still better than most conventional weapons.
@indiasuperclean6969
@indiasuperclean6969 11 ай бұрын
BUT SIR DO U KNOW MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@captspeedy1899
@captspeedy1899 11 ай бұрын
why are you a dog
@tommarney1561
@tommarney1561 11 ай бұрын
Binkov noted in his earlier video about the threat of Russian subs to American aircraft carriers that the Russian subs didn't have to be better than or even equal to US subs. They just had to be good enough to avoid detection. Now it appears that the Chinese have reached that point, and they'll be building a lot more subs than the Russians.
@fsexplorer9727
@fsexplorer9727 11 ай бұрын
@Atheos B. Sapien (Ubi dubium ibi liberatas) I doubt that fucking Portugal will be the decisive factor against China. I do hope we never find out in the real world though.
@indiasuperclean6969
@indiasuperclean6969 11 ай бұрын
BUT SIR DO U KNOW MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@mustafatariq1909
@mustafatariq1909 11 ай бұрын
@@atheos19 yeah but in all reality that’s a select few European countries, some other American allies, since most don’t even have expeditionary forces let alone a submarine force capable of anything but a defensive coastal stance.
@gelinrefira
@gelinrefira 10 ай бұрын
@@atheos19 You really think the world is going to war with China because the US says so? Heck, I will be surprise if half of Europe will go to war with China on the behest of the US. China is the biggest trading partner with more than 120 countries in the world, and most of the rest have China either its 2nd or 3rd biggest trading partner. To go to war with China is to literally destroy yourself. So in the event of a conflict in west Pacific, the US might be the one who find itself alone.
@rs-dp6pr
@rs-dp6pr 11 ай бұрын
Heard that a US submarine was so stealthy, it ran itself into a mountain recently?
@likh008
@likh008 11 ай бұрын
because that is a stealth mountain :p
@lengthao8424
@lengthao8424 11 ай бұрын
China will destroy the US in China backyard period.......!!!!!!!!! China hunting the US submarines just fishing these day........!!!!!!!!!
@psl7360
@psl7360 11 ай бұрын
yes because the sea coral cannot see or sense it.
@icebaby6714
@icebaby6714 11 ай бұрын
The worst part is it will take until 2026 the earliest to get it repaired while the damage is not that severe...this kind of speed will fail the US navy when a war breaks out between China and the US in Taiwan Strait, as you know Chinese can get their damaged warships fixed in weeks.
@ellashy6539
@ellashy6539 11 ай бұрын
or the sub stuck in a rock in the south china sea oops 🤣🤣
@keli4068
@keli4068 11 ай бұрын
When you see China is building 4/5/6 SSN a year,you will know Chinese SSN is as good as US's
@wilgoos63
@wilgoos63 11 ай бұрын
That was the pattern we saw with their destroyers and frigates so I think you make a very reasonable point.
@theemperorofmankind3739
@theemperorofmankind3739 11 ай бұрын
I will add the caveat that they do not need to be as good. But when they feel their equipment is good enough to be deemed as a near peer. Even if they are about 80% as good that is still wheere I think they would push production. I say this as they would like to use a number of this equipment for training and even development.
@indiasuperclean6969
@indiasuperclean6969 11 ай бұрын
BUT SIR DO U KNOW MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@wilgoos63
@wilgoos63 11 ай бұрын
@@theemperorofmankind3739 Exactly, building the most advanced shiniest piece of equipment doesn't win you the war necessarily, go ask the Germans about that. Kinda fascinating is that after defeating the Germans the US then starts copying the German procurment strategy.
@accountantthe3394
@accountantthe3394 11 ай бұрын
@@wilgoos63 huh...never thought about that. Good point!
@HellopeepsStavros
@HellopeepsStavros 11 ай бұрын
As a metallurgist I spent quite a lot of time explaining to manufacturing that inclusions in the metal were why components fractured. I am sure those subs will be fine.
@wilgoos63
@wilgoos63 11 ай бұрын
I mean it is not like submarine hulls get exposed to high pressures right?
@HellopeepsStavros
@HellopeepsStavros 11 ай бұрын
@@wilgoos63 Those hulls are welded wrought high strength steel. Its their casting, dirty cheep steel. Needle type inclusions close to the surface weaken the part lowering its strength and fatigue resistence. We buy this steel to reduce production costs. Next thing you know the part is breaking. Whether or not this has extended to the sub parts is unknown. One has just been lost by the titanic wreck. When they are compromised and start sinking they implode. This has happened to a US sub when the failed to maintain it properly to save money. Bits of sub were all over the ocean floor.
@wilgoos63
@wilgoos63 11 ай бұрын
@@HellopeepsStavros My message was intended sarcastically, sorry if that didnt come across properly. Also, thanks for your explanation. That is kinda what I was thinking, microscopic inclusions can do really really bad things with the structural integrity of materials. I am not a metalurhgist but a geologist, so not a complete stranger to microscopic crystaline structrures and what you said 100% jives with the way i understand these things to work.
@HellopeepsStavros
@HellopeepsStavros 11 ай бұрын
@@wilgoos63 As a geologist have you had to deal with young earth creationists ? Ken Ham built "the arc encounter" to show the world that everything living was pushed onto a single boat. Have you dated rocks with fossils using various isotope ratio tests ? How often had you had rows with Christians ? Any funny stories ?
@yojimbo3681
@yojimbo3681 11 ай бұрын
Right, because you know what kind of quality steel they use. /sarcasm
@johnsmith1953x
@johnsmith1953x 11 ай бұрын
*THE* best channel on Asian Navy's (like China's) is "Eurasia Naval Insight". Really, REALLY excellent channel!
@mrprodigy7143
@mrprodigy7143 11 ай бұрын
My hat might be one of the most bias channels on youtube
@therocinante3443
@therocinante3443 11 ай бұрын
Yeah a really really excellent ccp propaganda channel
@rarescevei8268
@rarescevei8268 10 ай бұрын
​@@therocinante3443So it is propaganda, even though he has made many videos that would, by your logic, be anti chinese and anti russian. It seems to me like you call whatever you dont like propaganda, but you call whatever you like facts.
@sjv9147s
@sjv9147s 10 ай бұрын
Didn't the nuclear Seawolf class sub stubbed it's nose somewhere near Taiwan, had to surface and limped all the way back to Hawaii for repairs?
@PvtSchlock
@PvtSchlock 11 ай бұрын
I love getting old; I still can't help thinking that the Los Angeles class is "new".
@Plaprad
@Plaprad 11 ай бұрын
I remember playing 688 on my old 486 as a kid. The new, high tech Los Angeles class was amazing and awesome... And that was over thirty years ago. Getting old sucks.
@stone1227
@stone1227 11 ай бұрын
America can't detect a Chinese balloon, let alone a Chinese sub
@AChannelThatDoesNothing
@AChannelThatDoesNothing 11 ай бұрын
What do you mean? It was detected.
@blackmetalcumbia
@blackmetalcumbia 11 ай бұрын
@@AChannelThatDoesNothing but not stopped until too late. chinese gov already with the pictures
@AChannelThatDoesNothing
@AChannelThatDoesNothing 11 ай бұрын
@@blackmetalcumbia Actually the US was able to block the camera on the balloon while spying on it back as the balloon went across the US.
@blackmetalcumbia
@blackmetalcumbia 11 ай бұрын
@@AChannelThatDoesNothing sensor and gps not only photos. you block the lens but what about the chip and other shit. was too late just accept it and move on mate.
@OryxAU
@OryxAU 11 ай бұрын
@@blackmetalcumbia Not really. Yeah we weren't looking for it through radar, but once we did find it we didn't immediately destroy it, we had no idea where it was from, what it was, who it belonged to, or if it was even safe to shoot down. Once we did know and it was safely away from any risky areas we did shoot it down, and then we shot down other ones when we knew what they were. This is exactly the approach that should be taken.
@OleDiaBole
@OleDiaBole 11 ай бұрын
And here come legions of ignorants thinking you can copy super-complicated systems by copying their general shape.
@TheNinjaMarmot
@TheNinjaMarmot 10 ай бұрын
The worst thing you can do is underestimate the enemy.
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 7 ай бұрын
I don't like China (or not China, but their government) and I could make fun of their submarine force after they recently allegedly lost a sub with 55 casualties, but if they decide to invade Taiwan, their silent submarines are the most dangerous unit used to keep foreign surface ships away from the conflict zone.
@pixxel5392
@pixxel5392 Ай бұрын
​@@AgentSmith91155 wuam0s are in deep stinking pollution filled chimao ovean as we speak😂
@vorlonzevatron7142
@vorlonzevatron7142 11 ай бұрын
There is a youtube video detailing how China hunted one of the three Sea wolf class submarine which was rammed head on by a unmanned submarine.
@jameslum8822
@jameslum8822 11 ай бұрын
Have you access to the link?
@irritatedanglosaxon1705
@irritatedanglosaxon1705 11 ай бұрын
@jameslum8822 search roywalker, and also how PLA wiped out US made terrorists in Mindanao, Phillipines only in 1 week
@vorlonzevatron7142
@vorlonzevatron7142 11 ай бұрын
@@jameslum8822 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJatfaqLm7GWe7c
@accountantthe3394
@accountantthe3394 11 ай бұрын
@@irritatedanglosaxon1705 ?? But is it true or fiction though?
@cameron571
@cameron571 11 ай бұрын
I enjoy your videos quite a bit. I find this topic particularly interesting.
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 11 ай бұрын
I remember back in 2012 or was 2013 when the pacific fleet get a shock of reality when that chinese sub captain decided to emerge at full speed 800 meters away from US carrier.
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 11 ай бұрын
The media didn’t exposed that much. Although I wonder how many subs and implements they’ve done after all 10 years from now many things changed
@Rumtrinker
@Rumtrinker 11 ай бұрын
the Chinese captain can navigate whatever he wants but is clear they had him located. if the US submarines heard him spinning up torpedoes we would hear about a accident on a Chinese boat
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 11 ай бұрын
@@Rumtrinker I will find the youtube link. the pacific fleet wasn't expecting but np.I will gladly find it sooner or later.
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 11 ай бұрын
@@Rumtrinker kzbin.info/www/bejne/amHdh3-ZgZqlj6c
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278
@rafaeloreirorodriguez5278 11 ай бұрын
@@Rumtrinker see found it the link althought it was a russian submarine model with chinese crew. To bad is the edited version, the original was more exciting.
@MorbidEel
@MorbidEel 11 ай бұрын
but it would make sense to lie about being unable to detect them. When it comes to military tech it is safe to assume everyone is lying. When you are trying to recruit you will talk about how awesome you are. When you asking for budget on the next toy you stress how close your opponents are.
@yeetian2774
@yeetian2774 11 ай бұрын
US defence department never think Chinese nuclear submarine is a joke.
@TheGreatAdmiral
@TheGreatAdmiral 11 ай бұрын
"haha US navy joke" - increasingly sweaty British admiral (1898)
@diner126
@diner126 11 ай бұрын
There are very few naval battles that can be used as a reference. There have been no submarine battles and aircraft carrier battles with similar technical levels for decades, so most of them can only be speculated based on tonnage parameters and historical experience. China's shipbuilding industry accounts for one-third of the world, and its technical capabilities and quality are unquestionable. It's just that building submarines is a completely different concept from building ordinary warships. I look forward to more information
@diner126
@diner126 11 ай бұрын
@atheos19 China's completely independently manufactured manned space station has been in operation for more than a year. Airbus aircraft are also assembled in China. Large cruise ships, Tesla and Apple mobile phones are also made in China. In these areas with the highest quality requirements, Chinese products The quality is reliable. Blind slander does not help to understand each other
@diner126
@diner126 11 ай бұрын
@atheos19 So where is your point? If the imitation thing can go to space, then any other country can build a space station
@needed2bleed
@needed2bleed 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@raymondtay3532
@raymondtay3532 11 ай бұрын
Well done China Super advanced powerful Submarine in the world .❤❤💪💪👏👏👍👍💯💯❤❤
@brdd514
@brdd514 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a video in the new us navy frigate? The fact they’re getting frigates again, and pumping out 40 of them pretty quick?
@jaredthehawk3870
@jaredthehawk3870 11 ай бұрын
The 093 "Shang" class is about on par with an old Victor III in terms of capabilities.
@Lukeclout
@Lukeclout 11 ай бұрын
Russian designers from the Malakhit and Rubin designers were hired as consultants for latter variants of the Type 093 and upcoming Type 095 SSNs The type 095 will likely share many features from the upcoming Russian Project 545, which is based on a simpler , more modular and economic version of the Yasen-M Class boats. Since the Yasen-M is very near peer to the Virginia and Sea Wolf Classes - its a huge leap forwards for China
@jeremygibbs7342
@jeremygibbs7342 11 ай бұрын
Liked this video for your sponsor. Just that opeming was solid
@bigdeal5108
@bigdeal5108 11 ай бұрын
Satellites in Hollywood movies spying on american citizens: zoom in to worn out licence plate in sunglasses reflection. Also satellites: Can't be sure about this huge submarine when it comes to the shape is it new, or older class repaired.
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 11 ай бұрын
That's what's publicly available though. When Trump released the sat photos of the failed Iranian rocket launch it had resolution and detail a generation ahead of what the public sphere had and that was from a satellite launched in the mid 2000s.
@hamstermomoco
@hamstermomoco 11 ай бұрын
Are you serious? You deleted your own comments (including mine) and then reposted them after I pointed out your cheap mistake about the resolution of reconnaissance satellite vs. commercial satellite photos?
@looinrims
@looinrims 11 ай бұрын
0:28 The Chinese have jumping submarines?! Yeah, we’re boned
@The136th
@The136th 11 ай бұрын
When are you gonna talk about Chinese destroyers? 055 and 052D?
@swisstestpilot
@swisstestpilot 11 ай бұрын
Dear Mr. Binkov and (Mrs?) Binkov enjoy your Holidays in Uberslavia, I look forward to seeing new and always interesting Videos from you and your team after that. ;-)
@rafail2303
@rafail2303 11 ай бұрын
Can you continue doing VS videos or at leat revisit older ones? Time travel videos would also be OK
@davidzanders2887
@davidzanders2887 11 ай бұрын
Wow, China is building submarines as good as USA built 30-40 years ago.
@uzziake
@uzziake 11 ай бұрын
😂😂 coping hard
@rahjah6958
@rahjah6958 11 ай бұрын
Try 100-200 years
@Jkl62200
@Jkl62200 11 ай бұрын
@@rahjah6958 jealous Endian bot
@downtomars6268
@downtomars6268 11 ай бұрын
@@Jkl62200 Endian can't even make a proper copy of a bridge, railway, and road without total failure.
@user-qf6yt3id3w
@user-qf6yt3id3w 11 ай бұрын
China is clearly working up to the point it has nuclear parity with the US. It's not so much about warhead counts, more like SLBM survivability and having warheads that could plausibly get through US missile defences. This is because they're going to invade Taiwan know the US basically has to fight them because it can't lose access to TSMC or Asian manufacturing. China also has a covert but fairly obvious deal with Russia. I expect that Ukraine will gradually escalate into an open Russia/NATO war and then China will invade Taiwan. Both hope that dividing US forces between Europe and the Pacific and the dubious stability of the US regime and economy will let them win. This is, of course, an absolutely insane plan and will lead to nuclear war. And of course the US is not blameless in this. It forced a coup in Ukraine and pushed Russia into the China camp rather than trying to have Russia anti Chinese but not fully aligned to the West, analogous to the way post Sino-Soviet split China was anti USSR but not fully aligned with the West. In a three power world system it is very, very important to make sure you're in the block of two, not the isolated single power. Instead the US plushed Russia into an alliance with China and has bullied even Western European states like Germany by blowing up Nordstream. This was incredibly stupid. Not as dumb as Russia and China copying the WW2 Axis idea of deciding to take on the West knowing that 1) The West has nukes and 2) It will probably use them rather than lose Taiwan. And even ignoring Taiwan it's hard to see any outcome over Ukraine that doesn't end with a direct NATO/Russia confrontation. As bad an idea as it obviously is I think the US, Russia and China all see a war coming.
@hughmungus2760
@hughmungus2760 11 ай бұрын
The US won't trade Washington for Taipei Every war the US gets itself involved in has never posed an existential threat to the survival of the US. Getting into a nuclear exchange is existential for the US. and you dont sacrifice the king for a pawn.
@indiasuperclean6969
@indiasuperclean6969 11 ай бұрын
BUT SIR DO U KNOW MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX 11 ай бұрын
Lmao if anything the west has more to lose in a nuclear war, you are right in some part but still wrong, russia and chinas nukes combined outnumbers american and european nukes by far, and a much higher population count, this isnt germany in ww2 when they are out numbered 1 to 6
@Rob_F8F
@Rob_F8F 11 ай бұрын
Great video. What a great Father's Day surprise!
@Strykenine
@Strykenine 11 ай бұрын
The US has been building Virginia Class boats for twenty years. I would hope that they're at least getting close so that all of the Sinophiles something to talk about on Quora.
@wilgoos63
@wilgoos63 11 ай бұрын
The point is that 20 years ago Chinese nuclear subs were about 40 years orso behind in technology. Nowadays they are reaching parity. Combine that with a massive edge over the US in production capacity and you have a real threat. Subs that are not as good but close in performance and available in large numbers and concentrated in one theater.
@Jkl62200
@Jkl62200 11 ай бұрын
Quora is Infested with Indian hindu nationalists and extremists.
@_XPXI
@_XPXI 11 ай бұрын
Remember that time when there was a Chinese sub trailing a British carrier but the sub itself was being trailed by a British submarine
@J_X999
@J_X999 11 ай бұрын
Source?
@LexlutherVII
@LexlutherVII 11 ай бұрын
Lol😂😂
@prastagus3
@prastagus3 11 ай бұрын
that was 091
@Dorgon_HetuAla
@Dorgon_HetuAla 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, your remember.
@_XPXI
@_XPXI 11 ай бұрын
@@J_X999 you think I’m gonna remember the exact link for everything?
@mikeck4609
@mikeck4609 11 ай бұрын
I can tell you that the new Russian Yasen subs are about as quiet as an Improved LA class US sub. Pretty quiet but not close to as quiet as a Virgian or Astute. But…the problem for the Russians isn’t that the new Yasen class subs aren’t quite enough; it’s that they can only build a couple. The vast majority of their sub fleet are old Cold War models. The capability of your sub fleet is not equivalent to your best 1 or 2 subs, but the majority of the fleet, as well as the training of the crew.
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 11 ай бұрын
Russians greatest weakness with its subs is the fact they basically are locked in really. Especially with NATO blocking off much of the easy routes from their ports to the Atlantic. Not so sure about the Pacific but you have Japan and South Korea plus the Seventh Fleet.
@recoil53
@recoil53 11 ай бұрын
@@dianapennepacker6854 It would be a bigger weakness if the UK had kept their sub patrol aircraft. It's just a longer route they have to run. But with Finland, watching their bases is easier.
@gaborrajnai6213
@gaborrajnai6213 11 ай бұрын
@@recoil53 Finland doesnt have a port in the Arctic.
@recoil53
@recoil53 11 ай бұрын
@@gaborrajnai6213 Indeed, but you don't need a port to monitor.
@Rizvi-rk1xy
@Rizvi-rk1xy 11 ай бұрын
This vid made me sleep mid way thanks
@davidnicholls7532
@davidnicholls7532 11 ай бұрын
The first UK test propulsor was installed on a Churchill class in the late 60s and the Swiftsure class from 1973 had them as standard.
@nirvansiga5575
@nirvansiga5575 11 ай бұрын
How would these compare to non-US subs such as France/Germany/S.Korea/Japan etc.?
@sly_lock
@sly_lock 11 ай бұрын
The UK and French subs are comparable to the US subs. I'm sure there are strengths and weaknesses and many similarities shared via NATO. Even if China has an equal level of tech in their new boats(doubtful), they completely lack the institutional knowledge required to truly be comparable. The real question is whether they commit to the training, quality assurance, maintenance, and MONEY required to operate and constantly upgrade a fleet. If they do, then one day they can be. There's also a lot that you don't learn when all you do is steal technology and fail to develop it yourself. There's a possibility that Russia could help them achieve their goals, but even they are a shell of what the Soviets once were. Those other countries only use diesel subs, as do many others. Most of the quality versions are bought from Sweden. They have their merits, and can be deadly when close to home.
@siadwarsame2045
@siadwarsame2045 11 ай бұрын
Germany, South Korea, Japan don’t have nuclear powered subs so they aren’t comparable to main nuclear powers subs. U.S., Russia, China, France, U.K are the only nations with nuclear subs.
@user-hj8mz3hp3s
@user-hj8mz3hp3s 11 ай бұрын
Well chineese once had the strongest navy during Ming dynasty,they ve reached somalia and indonesia.During Quinn dynasty,they didnt invest in navy
@recoil53
@recoil53 11 ай бұрын
The Ming Treasure Fleet. But that was early in the Ming Dynasty and was dismantled when it got back IIRC. It would make for some fun alternate history stuff, if current times wouldn't give it political overtones.
@user-hj8mz3hp3s
@user-hj8mz3hp3s 11 ай бұрын
@@recoil53 well they ve knocked out portuguesse in Formosa and Spaniards in Philippines,there is a chance that they still have that Naval spirit in their genes
@ThroatSore
@ThroatSore 11 ай бұрын
Dear Commissar Binkov. What forces would I need to take over the world. This could be from the point of view of a rouge country or an alien race that invades Earth. Silly suggestions, I know, but I have enjoyed many of your hypothetical scenarios. Thanks.
@DriveLaken
@DriveLaken 11 ай бұрын
Nice, I would very much like to watch Commissar Binkov’s assessment of your question. An Alien race, a rogue country would be fantasy and luck. A Alien Race with limited assets on-site that allied with the Rogue Country
@Allen667sjja
@Allen667sjja 10 ай бұрын
Where is Sean Connery when you need him lol
@kennethferland5579
@kennethferland5579 11 ай бұрын
Cavitation is not 'air bubbles', this is a common misconception, they are voids which simply collapse to produce sound.
@justbecause3187
@justbecause3187 11 ай бұрын
It is water vapor and other gases dissolved in the water, as I understand it.
@DirtyHairy1
@DirtyHairy1 11 ай бұрын
Enjoy your vacations! :)
@sydneystout4003
@sydneystout4003 11 ай бұрын
the same as with the LA & Virginia classes- each new batch has additions & improvements.
@JenniferA886
@JenniferA886 11 ай бұрын
True… although one minor advantage the Chinese subs may have is the cost to produce and cost to run the subs and the supporting infrastructure???
@realWARPIG
@realWARPIG 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video.
@MrHSwager
@MrHSwager 11 ай бұрын
I hope that the algorithm shines brightly on you while you are on holiday
@jayjayquest4958
@jayjayquest4958 11 ай бұрын
I look at things as realistically as I can. I see that China has long term goals militarily and economically, and they have been steadily achieving them. They are modernizing all branches of their military, land, air, sea...and space. They have openly declared that they want Taiwan back under their control, and are deep into preparation for that main event. They've been practicing combined arms all around Taiwan. They build multiple new helicopter bases on the mainland directly across from the island. I see the US putting more forces in Japan and the Philippines to counter, but I don't see the US & it's allies as having the ability to stop the eventual taking of Taiwan. I don't feel the US has the ability or will to stop China. While China continues to grow, I see the US struggling to hold what it has abroad. Afghanistan fell way faster than the analysts thought it would. The US used to have unrivaled military superiority, but both the numerical and technical advantages have shrunk rapidly. China has more ships, and they are quite capable. Their version of AWACS plane is now superior to what the US fields. China is building advanced tactical aircraft at a rate that outpaces the US and if they continue to do so will gain and even exceed US numbers. The US also seems to be doing a lot more reacting verses causing China to react. Don't forget, in the last world war, the US was the worlds factory and turned out the goods to help not only itself, but many allied countries as well. Today China is the worlds factory. I know China has plenty of flaws, but believing they are still a paper tiger when they have become a great dragon is naive.
@azteclegalgroup7604
@azteclegalgroup7604 11 ай бұрын
China will never take Taiwan. First of all, the Chinese economy is crashing because their population is aging unnaturally due to their one child policy and companies are moving out of China. China will soon go into a permanent economic decline. Furthermore, China cheaply copies American tech. Chinese engineering and workmanship especially on complicated machines especially without Western help- very poor workmanship. Thirdly, all of China’s neighbors will war China with everything they have because they are defending their homes. Fourthly, the bases in the Philippines make it impossible for China to take Taiwan. American f22 & ngad fighters will dominate the skies. American air power alone is more than enough to sink all Chinese troop transports. Plus we have all the best submarines in the world.
@azteclegalgroup7604
@azteclegalgroup7604 11 ай бұрын
All the companies are leaving China so they are no longer the world’s factory and all our military assets are positioned to both completely blockade China and to bomb their factories. China cannot blockade the USA. China might bomb a factory or two but the USA will bomb all of China’s. Nazi Germany had factories too but we were in position to bomb their factories. China would lose badly today. They might catch up a little but by 2030 - their economy is done
@poonhound9377
@poonhound9377 11 ай бұрын
@@azteclegalgroup7604none of what you said is true at all. It’s all pure speculation based on ridiculous propaganda.
@youarebeingtrolled6954
@youarebeingtrolled6954 11 ай бұрын
@@azteclegalgroup7604 stupid alert
@globalpropertyinvestment
@globalpropertyinvestment 11 ай бұрын
​@@azteclegalgroup7604 Serious cope on display there
@vehx9316
@vehx9316 11 ай бұрын
Saying that China is 10 years behind the US fails to address the issue of where would the US be 10 years from now ?
@MonkeyDRogzers12
@MonkeyDRogzers12 11 ай бұрын
095 submarine will debut in 2-3 years. that will put china in equal standing as usa
@Rumtrinker
@Rumtrinker 11 ай бұрын
they are not 10 years behind the americans maybe french boats do. the best Chinese sub right now is noisy as hell. and the americans are putting one or two to sea A YEAR!! . the Chinese to be a submarine threat needs to spend good old USSR way. the had 200 SSK and SSNs in the good old cold war and the americans in the 70 peak 120 SSN
@Superpooper-2020
@Superpooper-2020 11 ай бұрын
​@@RumtrinkerAmerican subs will quietly sink at the bottom of the ocean without a fight recently happened in south china sea
@loadingnewads
@loadingnewads 11 ай бұрын
@@Rumtrinkerstill believing in American ship building industry? That is a paper ball compare to Chinese and even Korean
@Rumtrinker
@Rumtrinker 11 ай бұрын
@@Superpooper-2020 the last us sub that sank is the Scorpion what is your imagination saying?
@neuman35
@neuman35 11 ай бұрын
Fairly close to U.S. Subs in the 1970's? Give me a F'ing break....
@user-dw4ee7fx9y
@user-dw4ee7fx9y 11 ай бұрын
Hey Binkov just wonder if you are interested in making video about serbia?
@AnimeZone950
@AnimeZone950 11 ай бұрын
I saw the latest battle ship in china with broken haul and cracked surface, but I don't know if it true or not if china do tofu building they might do tofu sub
@prastagus3
@prastagus3 11 ай бұрын
CSIS just refute this absurd rumor
@theguy8412
@theguy8412 11 ай бұрын
stop eating propaganda
@penskepc2374
@penskepc2374 11 ай бұрын
​@@prastagus3China builds garbage, accept reality 😂
@penskepc2374
@penskepc2374 11 ай бұрын
​@@theguy8412the irony of someone dumb enough to gobble Chinese propaganda saying that 😂
@AnimeZone950
@AnimeZone950 11 ай бұрын
@@prastagus3 Send me the link to show me evidence
@jtjr26
@jtjr26 11 ай бұрын
The US generally does not talk about the technological capabilities of its submarine fleet publically. I wonder if comments made by US Navy personell about the closing technological gap with Rissian and Chinese equipment are actually true. To be sure China and Russia are doing all they can to close any technological gap in their hardware but at the same time the US is starting to build a new class of submarine and you can bet your bottom dollar they will incorporate every technological innovation they have from the latest flight of Virginia Class subs, plus some more advanced elements new to that class. Were the comments made by US naval personnel the truth or is this just intended to be negative enough to maintain or accelerate US Navy funding in budget allocations?
@recoil53
@recoil53 11 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the "bomber gap" and other panics the Pentagon has pushed during the Cold War. Good way to get more funding.
@dand4075
@dand4075 11 ай бұрын
Cut to the chase, who's ahead now.
@sihiushitposterbiasa-reliv5199
@sihiushitposterbiasa-reliv5199 11 ай бұрын
​@@jorgej8855ignorant
@cadavisiii
@cadavisiii 11 ай бұрын
Yo, Binkov, just curious, legit question, uhh for production, how many Binkov puppets do you have? What are they insured for? How much is the original appraised for? Say that a person with great will dug out the last remaining Binkov puppets from the nuclear fallout. What could such a man barter for in that new age?
@KirbyZhang
@KirbyZhang 11 ай бұрын
china doesn't have good submarine bases, no open access to deep water. it first needs a lot of surface ships to provide cover for its submarines.
@chongkt6469
@chongkt6469 11 ай бұрын
Yes. Don't bother with them!
@walhdamaskus2408
@walhdamaskus2408 11 ай бұрын
Kirby Zhang is a new Gordon Chang. 😂
@shockme156
@shockme156 11 ай бұрын
say that to the Chinese cellphone that you use 24 hours non-stop
@rdiddyspace1708
@rdiddyspace1708 11 ай бұрын
Typen 093 better than Type 091 Han class which was very noisy SSN, not hard to do. But I doubt a type 093 outclasses a 688I. so chinese SSN fleet today is a smaller joke than what they had 20 years ago. I'm more worried about what comes after 093 like what would a type 095 class be like and when? make a video speculating on a Type 093 followon please.
@History_Coffee
@History_Coffee 11 ай бұрын
You want crab rangoon? You get nuclear missiles!
@kludgedude
@kludgedude 11 ай бұрын
Magnetic pulse drive
@Aras11kl
@Aras11kl 11 ай бұрын
Fallout is about to get real
@defencebangladesh4068
@defencebangladesh4068 11 ай бұрын
Grabbing some popcorn... The comment section would be entertaining.
@nigelbagguley7606
@nigelbagguley7606 11 ай бұрын
All the way from England,so they finally upgraded from the Helen Keller mark one sonar did they?
@accountantthe3394
@accountantthe3394 11 ай бұрын
Put the entire british armed forces in a stadium and still there's room to spare, sit down son lol
@aymonfoxc1442
@aymonfoxc1442 11 ай бұрын
Happy holidays to Binkov and Uberslavia.
@thanasisrks4944
@thanasisrks4944 11 ай бұрын
Copium comments incoming!
@walbaby3176
@walbaby3176 11 ай бұрын
„precision parts“ - If there is ONE thing china never achieved, than that is precision manufacturing especially with metal
@elmohead
@elmohead 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure you need precision manufacturing when making a space station
@randomthot125
@randomthot125 11 ай бұрын
Who made the Chinese space station then?
@Fatallydisorganized
@Fatallydisorganized 11 ай бұрын
@@elmohead mass production precision manufacturing is way different than a one off spacestation.
@andrean2247
@andrean2247 11 ай бұрын
Sorry, China already achieved that. They show it already they have the machine to do it.
@randomthot125
@randomthot125 11 ай бұрын
@@Fatallydisorganized Didn't know N-subs are for mass production, where can I buy a reactor?
@aymonfoxc1442
@aymonfoxc1442 11 ай бұрын
The Russians' latest submarine wasn’t readily tracked during its first outing but it was tracked on its second outing and now, it can already be identified by its sound (as made clear by Britain, France and Italy earlier this year). The Chinese may start out louder, the maintenance is unlikely to be so bad as to match this rate of degradation of stealthy capabilities. Western countries build databases of passive sound and look for a submarine's 'signature'. I'm sure China (and Russia for that matter) will certainly be trying to do the same nowadays.
@Snow-vi9ix
@Snow-vi9ix 11 ай бұрын
093 is old technology i thought maybe you talking about maybe versions 094 095 versions ! US has evolved sensors too about defection etc or underwater unmanned underwater drones etc.
@chevyslyme
@chevyslyme 11 ай бұрын
If I was designing a Chinese sub, I would build a special device to grind away to make a real racket. Lulled into the belief Chinese can't make a quiet sub, once the time comes to be serious, switch to stealth mode.
@emilsohn1671
@emilsohn1671 11 ай бұрын
The issue with that is that they will not learn how good western detection tech is or isnt.
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 11 ай бұрын
So when they say "Chinese subas are 1 generation behind" why on earth are you trying to convert that to a vague 10-20 year time frame and then back into generation of subs? If they say 1 generation behind, just look at the last gen of subs... So depending on how the US counts generations, either Seawolf or the last batch of Los Angeles class boats.
@lurchibold
@lurchibold 11 ай бұрын
If you want to get the specs on any of China's latest tec all you have to do is look at our last gen of the same tec.
@loadingnewads
@loadingnewads 11 ай бұрын
what about 055 destroyer? Where is US AESA that can compare to 055’s? And what about hypersonic missiles, which is lethal to US…
@loadingnewads
@loadingnewads 11 ай бұрын
I want to know why Americans are always “proud” or say arrogant
@maxhammick948
@maxhammick948 11 ай бұрын
5:03 you forgot HMS Sovereign, launched in 1973
@paulpowell4871
@paulpowell4871 5 ай бұрын
Considering how many chicoms are Allowed to work in US military contractors it is NO surprise
@pixxel5392
@pixxel5392 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@charlieshore-hollingworth7707
@charlieshore-hollingworth7707 11 ай бұрын
Chinese subs are deffo getting better, but they’re still not even close to USN tech. NATO subs are not only considerably quieter but also have significantly more advanced and powerful sonars that can our range and out match CCP boats. More importantly that both these things however is the tactics and methods that the USN has which the CCP does not, that’s the really classified stuff.
@J_X999
@J_X999 11 ай бұрын
Binkov says they are definitely getting close to US capabilities.
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 11 ай бұрын
Has the US and NATO lost skills forged in the coldwar? ASW was paramount in the 80s but has the shift to counter insurgency for 20 years allowed China to close the gap? Edit: typo
@UnicornMeat512
@UnicornMeat512 11 ай бұрын
Still with the raid adds?
@mohamadfaezbaik2369
@mohamadfaezbaik2369 11 ай бұрын
1950 China 🇨🇳 vs USA 🇺🇸
@peterpanini96
@peterpanini96 11 ай бұрын
If chinese subs are as stealthy as their balloons America is doomed... 💪
@nottodaywillj2723
@nottodaywillj2723 11 ай бұрын
Balloons were monitored when they got close to the west coast, the military was most likely confused, it was an isolated incident, the last time the U.S. had shot down a hostile aircraft over its airspace was World War II. So they didnt want to cause an unprovoked ruckus on the world stage without identification and confirmations to the t.
@mattl6300
@mattl6300 11 ай бұрын
Has anyone here ever thought "im going on wish to get a quality product that will do what it should"
@melfilipe3934
@melfilipe3934 11 ай бұрын
China will build 28 SSNs (9 SSN Type 93 + 19 SSN Type 95) as well 14 SSBNs (8 SSBN Type 94 + 6 SSBN Type 96)
@Azzie420
@Azzie420 11 ай бұрын
Waiting for the “China Numba Wan” comments
@prasanth2601
@prasanth2601 11 ай бұрын
US have soo much experience in this field. They still have the technological edge against it's adversaries. Ofc chinese aren't to be taken lightly. Only the day their subs can effectively evade US radars in guam, Hawaii and sail all the way upto west coast then they become a real threat to Us military. I wonder whether china can detect a US SSN when it sails in it's backyard.
@SaviOr747
@SaviOr747 11 ай бұрын
US ofc still has the edge ( and probably will have it also in the future), Chinese Subs dont need to make all the way to the west coast to threaten the US. If its in a war against Taiwan scenario, its absolutly enough to intercept US convoys before they reach the west pacific.
@akiraraiku
@akiraraiku 11 ай бұрын
The US is not universally better at everything. A sector that the US has underinvested for a long time in is ASV, to the point where US frigates can't even keep track of russian submarines in the medditerean, they need to get french and italian help to do that.
@SaviOr747
@SaviOr747 11 ай бұрын
@@akiraraiku I'm not so much into ASW , but i imagine detecting subs in the med awful to pull of. Must be the sea with most noise pullution in the world. Its no wonder that France and Italy are superior at their own doorstep, with all that systems to monitor refugee boats.
@jwolf4948
@jwolf4948 11 ай бұрын
@@akiraraiku How do I know you have no clue what you are talking about? The fact that you said ASV instead of ASW and then said US Frigates... The US has zero frigate class vessels commissioned. The last one in the Navy was USS Simpson which was decommissioned on 29 Sept. 2015. Plus I agree with SaviOr747, that is one of the most difficult places to keep track of vessels. Every northern European and Atlantic Ocean side nation in Either North or South America have the majority of their imports and exports go through the Mediterranean.
@alext8828
@alext8828 11 ай бұрын
We could get better pictures if we flew a balloon over.
@solomonigot4121
@solomonigot4121 11 ай бұрын
Quality s important.
@tdsil
@tdsil 11 ай бұрын
It isn’t just the equipment. What is the training like? If it is hierarchical, then the sub is kinda useless. If your officer corps buys their ranks, then incompetence and corruption is rife.
@Goober_____
@Goober_____ 11 ай бұрын
Annnd here come all the angry Americans.
@Goober_____
@Goober_____ 11 ай бұрын
@atheos19 why is it wrong if someone is to support a different country’s ideals? Personally I still think the US military is capable but people keep thinking it can never fail which I think is very naïve
@cliffhooper3558
@cliffhooper3558 11 ай бұрын
Sameme exact hull?🤔 They took chinese knockoff to a new level 😂
@user-hi1oj6jm8v
@user-hi1oj6jm8v 11 ай бұрын
Spectation vs reality
@13orrax
@13orrax 11 ай бұрын
One if the most disappointing things in life is realizing that submarines dont have windows
@loadingnewads
@loadingnewads 11 ай бұрын
Hhh me too
@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd
@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it sucks they can't stare out into the darkness of the Deep...
@loadingnewads
@loadingnewads 11 ай бұрын
@@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd imagine you are a soldier on a submarine, and the lights suddenly turn off
@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd
@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd 11 ай бұрын
@@loadingnewads lol it's not like being in your home at night, and turning off the lights to be able to see outside.
@13orrax
@13orrax 11 ай бұрын
@@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd lol that's part of the realization. You couldn't see anything anyway
@lvxmagick9560
@lvxmagick9560 11 ай бұрын
Just one thing... Its still made in china.
@DriveLaken
@DriveLaken 11 ай бұрын
7:05 Whose Dingling?
@Aherz-yd4gs
@Aherz-yd4gs 11 ай бұрын
4 things: Land; Natural Resources; Humans and Investment...people does not yet seem to open their eyes...time goes by...
@paulsteaven
@paulsteaven 11 ай бұрын
Want some 🍿🍿🍿 while reading the comment section?
@jed1729
@jed1729 11 ай бұрын
China still does not have the quality-control to make jaiba sydgen gears and so forth and things are still lacking haven't seen many programs about it and this seems far-fetched their submarines become quiet
@jasondong9721
@jasondong9721 11 ай бұрын
Denial phase!
@auro1986
@auro1986 11 ай бұрын
they could be using battery to power engine instead of diesel or reactors
@mattiOTX
@mattiOTX 10 ай бұрын
Diesels use batteries. They use the engine at the surface to recharge their batteries.
@robertfrost1683
@robertfrost1683 11 ай бұрын
Countries play " Gamesmanship" just like playing " poker".. Always build up your opponent and talking down your strengths. All the while holding aces and kings in your hand. They when the hand is called - you win.
@stenyethanmathews945
@stenyethanmathews945 11 ай бұрын
What's that one saying? Oh yea, pride goes before a downfall.
@walhdamaskus2408
@walhdamaskus2408 11 ай бұрын
Thats how american empire is doing with their vessels countries...are falling. 😂
@arzaantsaqib3655
@arzaantsaqib3655 11 ай бұрын
Feels weird being this early
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