Numarx - Girl You Know It's True 1987

Sello:
Bluebird
Formato:
Vinilo, 12"
País:
UK
Publicado:
1987
Género:
Hip Hop

[@RichardChin-qp1ml]

Milli Vanilli movie bought me here... this is dope..

[@damali-karlawhittaker6462]

Me too

[@ManuelvanAmerongen]

You have got me. 🙂

[@tavobravo]

Jajaja yeap

[@TrustMy-kd1ny]

😂 Me Too

[@christianmichler1986]

😅

[@marcelomurielpaez]

Quien llegó aquí después de ver la película 🎥 Girl You Know its True …. La historia de los Milli Vanilli

[@danielzimmermann2362]

Despite the MV version sounding better, I admire this one for its originality.

[@tbaggX3]

87- Numarx 88- Milli vanilli

[@masterchief5231]

Let’s be honest. This song hasn‘t the makings of a world hit.

[@GuyTheArtist]

This version wasn’t a hit, but it does feels like the demo for a hit song.

[@bombast718]

Sarcasm?

[@MaximilianKase-mm4kk]

Yesterday I saw the new cinema-production about the Milli-Vanilli-Project under Frank Farian from the german director Simon Verhoeven. The movie was published under the title "Girl You Know It's True" and illustrates the fine difference between artistic originality and illusion in the music business. The background story about this song, which had advanced to a number-one-world-hit in the cover-version from Milli Vanilli, was interesting and fascinating. Hearing the original version from Numarx is non the less fascinating. At the time of the 1980s the young black Hip-Hop-Band Numarx from Baltimore had very much potential. The fact like the story developed is a vivid example for the importance of advertising and promotion for artistic success. Even it is a great advantage for Musicians to have a strong and influential Label as support. And sometimes it is just a conincidence if a songs hits a nerve.

[@mr.murray8742]

This is the original Kevin Lyles was in the group

[@jasonpeters9865]

I'm 47...I was 6th Grade when this MV thing dropped in 89. I NEVER knew this was a song already.

[@wendigo53]

MV was a cover band!?

[@arg9980]

NUMARX es la original, 1 año antes de que MLLI VANILLI hicieran sus arreglos y la promocionaran en Europa para dar el salto a USA. el resto es historia..

[@mr.murray8742]

This was Kevin Lyle’s first group the NUMARX from Baltimore his High School friends

[@mikemeengs5720]

This version demonstrates the power of the Ashley's Roachclip drum loop...there's a big hole in the sound without it!

[@RainerStrophenkilla]

True!

[@unrhu]

No it's not, you are just used to the MV version. He didn't do much to the song, just added background singers chorus, and the loop to make it more of a RnB song and not a rap song

[@dmoss010]

That’s that LL Cool J flow

[@JPRetti-t7p]

It's got that 80s freestyle beat and flow. If you were listening to freestyle in the late 80s you can immediately hear it. Fire

[@stacyc1478]

This song is still the bomb lol

[@ramontaylor4000]

Baltimore MD

[@Aditya-wg3lp]

This is still put together really well and pretty close to the mv version

[@darrylstubbs4245]

Bought this same 12inch in 87 love it.

[@uliweidenbusch2692]

i play as dj milli vanilli and i nerer thougt that it was a cover version omg

[@FlashPoint345]

New Milli Vanilli biopic is why im here. OMG i never knew Frank farrian actually stole the entire song LOL WOOOW🤦 To his credit he made the song sound much better but this sounds good too. By the way if you havnt seen the new movie OMG WATCH IT!! Very well made Biopic!!! i LOVED IT!!

[@donaldclark4286]

Even better is the documentary on Paramount+. Watched that first, then watched the movie.

[@Cameron-wi9io]

I like this version too lol. Wow. Today years old!

[@GrobmotorikJones]

these guys deserve more f** credits.

[@mayraortiz6778]

Oh they got the money they deserve

[@M4532v]

@@mayraortiz6778no. They didn’t

[@mayraortiz6778]

@@M4532v like I said

[@GTAbrasil2000]

The original

[@adel8687]

Love this version

[@Rattlor]

Whoever produced this should be ashamed of themselves. They had a hit song and didn’t do it justice.

[@Dutchess80]

Kevin Liles

[@tudorzileriu]

Just a random nobody. Like president of def jam rec

[@blewgrassboy8461]

Bro was 16 in the projects of Baltimore and unsigned

[@TheDripGodz]

Man this version is FIRE!!! We still love Milli Vanilli . Frank Farian was a GENIUS, even though most won’t understand.

[@mikeaziz5040]

Yeah a genius at ripping off other people's shit and disguising it to con you into thinking he created something 😂

[@chinwenduchinwe586]

There is nothing to understand...Frank Farian was a thief; a criminal hiding in an office, who took advantage of people all over the world. Utter skuz....

[@haroldj.6295]

This song was singing by Rob and Fab. (Milli Vanilli) Buy the way, Frank Farian was a bad person.

[@Ertan19710]

​@@mikeaziz5040absolut richtig 👍

[@DiggaDiggsn]

Ist einer Schlecht nur weil er workaholic ist​? Ohne Frank würde keiner Milli vanilli noch New Marx kennen. Verkauft 100 Mio von Tonträger.. hat arme Menschen mit anfang 20 zu Welstars gemacht.. keiner ist perfekt und vielleicht hat jemand gefehlt der die Klarheit und Verständnis zwischen den Parteien bring...und so lange wir alle diese Songs lieben und selber nicht alles live miterlebt haben sollten wir über niemanden Negative urteile angeben finde ich... dafür war es dramatisch genug...ich bin Dankbar für alle die beteiligt waren dass ich diese Musik hören darf... wie Geschenk vom Universum ...RIP Robert Pilatus❤ und Frank Farian❤

[@DJDeadBear]

The lyrics are Fire!🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥♥️ ( 2:00 🥰, 2:10 ❤ 2:13 ♥️) Such beautiful words😍❤️‍🔥🥰. ;; This version is sad❤😢❤. Especially the ending...that little nostalgic, "dreamy" sound at the end... it's pure sadness 🥀🥀😢😢 0:59 🥀❤; 2:31 🥰🥀; 2:43 🥀♥️; 2:51 😢🥀; 2:59 🥀; 3:11 😢❤; 3:19 ♥️😢; 3:26 - 3:29 ❤🥀🥀😢; 3:42 - 3:45 😭🥀)

[@gibs2b]

1:11 Outch ! the keyboard...

[@n8flieger948]

😆

[@InanimateOne]

Nice catch!

[@streathamsoprano8025]

"They're fine, though..." "Shut up, T!"

[@farenmareeramos]

How did they not sue Farian for everything he was worth? This is nearly identical to MV!

[@jackyneves9522]

They sued him and they got a cut from the Milli Vanilli record And one of the members studied the game of the music industry because of the stolen record and ended up being an exec at Def Jam Records He made Lemonade out of lemons without even knowing it

[@Candyprincess971]

@@jackyneves9522Lyles.

[@Candyprincess971]

They actually did and became music executives

[@luzmartinez3433]

They earned royalties from MV

[@kingtim_ade]

@@jackyneves9522Yep!! Kevin Lyles!! He’s the one rapping on this song

[@ebonyjohnson1580]

I was this years old when I found out that this is where Milli Vanilli got their infamous song and I’m from Bmore 🔥🔥🔥

[@caucasianfunk3291]

Frank Stole everything in his career

[@dereinzigwahreschnitzelmann]

He took a song that was good and made it a song that was great.

[@caucasianfunk3291]

@@dereinzigwahreschnitzelmann not just 1 song. He is not as brilliant as everyone is saying

[@unrhu]

The song was already great, goofball

[@gbturk16]

​@@unrhunaw dog it was cool but it's a difference between being very good and a classic. Frank was pretty fucked up but he took this song to legendary status.

[@unrhu]

​@@gbturk16No he didn't, he just had a bigger market to promote it on, the song was already great. You goofies stay lying and promoting clowns

[@ClarenceGreenwood-w8k]

Kevin Lyles was in the band as well as Bill Pettiway who is a DC legend worked w Timbaland for years helped write Cry Me A River

[@ReeRee-Da-Lovely]

Cry Me A River sounds similar to this song

[@Shine-z4i]

The producer literally stole this song , did numark Make money off milli vanilli

[@Bigmanstyling101]

Just finding out about this after watching a documentary on Milli vanili 😂

[@DiegoBernal87]

La canción es buena pero recuerden q el marketing y en la época la parte visual lo era todo ya q MTV hizo q la música no solo se escuche sino q también se vea!!! A veces sacar primero algo no quiere decir q sea mejor, sino más bien quien lo haga mejor gana!!! Existen tantos cover's q superaron las canciones originales!!!

[@lalolanda2239]

me estas jodiendo? 1: lo hicieron sin permiso 2: no cantaban ellos !!!

[@paddykrueger3484]

Was viele nicht wissen: dieser Song wurde von Rob und Fab gesungen. Nurmax hat nur so getan als hätten sie es selbst gesungen.

[@GadgetInspektor]

Was?

[@batteriesnotincluded6944]

😂

[@Amardia1]

Stimmt nicht. Wie kommste denn auf so ne Aussage?

[@paddykrueger3484]

@@Amardia1 Hier, mein „Ironie-Schild“ 🪧

[@rainbow-6-siege]

genau so war es

[@sportbilli735]

Endlich mal das Originale

[@dimebagguitar5555]

amazing arrangement, I would never have thought that Mivi Vanili did not compose this song /

[@Aditya-wg3lp]

Lol, don’t you know their entire thing is that the 2 guys actually never sang a song in their discography

[@coreyRobert-u7k]

Milli vanilli pulled a Cederic the entertainer lol

[@yumjoystyle2]

and a Steve Harvey haha

[@InanimateOne]

☠

[@xraysjbxraysjb2452]

Baltimore city stars

[@barryreed3092]

This version sucks 😂😂

[@josebolanos2744]

excelente cancion

[@naisi]

To be fair, Frank Farian improved on this already great base.

[@unrhu]

It's literally the same exact song, he made it an RnB song instead of a rap song. That's it

[@naisi]

@@unrhu Increased the tempo and changed instrumentation. Which made it better. Don‘t argue with the obvious darling.

[@unrhu]

@@naisi he didn't change instruments goofy, he looped the drums and added the chorus vocals in the middle of the song and not just the end to make it sound more pop or RnBb than Hip Hop/rap

[@randyasuarez]

Speed this to 1.25x and it's an instant Freestyle song. You're welcome.

[@RellyOhBoy]

No one thanked you 🤣

[@randyasuarez]

@@RellyOhBoy damn I know

[@domlee8032]

This is good, this should be on the disc as a third track.

[@masterofsinanju]

I remember an even older version of this that was pure rap, no synth music, most definitely on WEBB in the early 80s. Anyone else remember that?

[@ME-ot2ce]

NAh never heard of a older rap version then this 1987 drop

[@saschajarmicki6950]

Nemarx released 5000 copies of it. He was a new York based Producer/DJ and songwriter. The Song flopped. One Copy Got in the hands of the German Producer Frank Farian ...the Rest ist History..not enough putting two dancers that didn't sing the Song. He completely stole the Song. Nemarx Got all the royalties and Millions from Frank Farian at court

[@saschajarmicki6950]

Frank Farian stated at court that He thought He bought the song.his German attourneys we're supposed to buy the rights. They never Made a contract. Frank Farian is a dickhead.

[@kissesbloody]

Nonsense. Farian bought the rights from the owners and could do whatever he wanted with the song. There was never a court case because there was a legally valid contract in which the creatives assigned the rights to Farian.

[@la-organizacion]

@@kissesbloody Mistake !!!! Farian never bought anything, copyright always belonged to Farian. But all producers know that thanks to the royalty money Numarx founded a record company called Marx Brothers Records, and that is so because there was an agreement between them. The agreement was precisely because Numarx wanted to denounce Farian after learning of Milli Vanilli's farce.

[@Tony-zx8ju]

This has more of an ll cool j need love voice. Frank just put real singers behind this track and tweaked the music a little then front end it with good looking dancers and the rest was history. I love this song but i love milli vanilli for what they did

[@marionknight333]

The MV version is much better

[@unrhu]

Not

[@jamesfraser2664]

SYSK?

[@traxdelt9016]

Stuff you should know. Best podcast ever.

[@damali-karlawhittaker6462]

I wish The Numarxs made a music video first and give it to DICK CLARK. Maybe they would have gotten the exposure 1ST! and some of the fame that MILLI VANILLI got instead because they were the preferred image. The record company who signed C&C MUSIC FACTORY and BLACK BOX used Marsha Walsh's POWERFUL singing voice from the Weather Girls in the 90s also! 😮😮😡😡

[@armymedina]

me enteré por la pelicula... Girl You Know It's True... 👀

[@BelindaŞah]

This is was True. Irgendwie tun mir die Jungs leid... Ich meine Rob und Fab

[@kelvinklein3023]

whos singing?

[@vanhallen4510]

Nmarx

[@biglyon123]

This song would never had sold 100 records …. This was a bad recording thanks for Farian

[@unrhu]

It don't matter what it would have sold, it's literally the same exact song as the MV version goofy. And if you want a song you have to pay for it. You think because your ancestors stole everything they have it's ok for you to do it as well?

[@JamezMusic]

LOL @ the cuica samples

[@jamesfraser5027]

Needs less cowbell.

[@ReptilianLizardi]

Koño Mickey 😧

[@Fernando.Elizalde777]

Si es prácticamente igual a la que se grabó después con Mili Vanilli porque no habrá pegado esta canción??

[@MundoRetroMxGdl]

Lo mismo paso con pump up the jam . De technotronics no ea original ya antes habia una version sin exito. Pero no recuerdo quien la tocaba

[@Fernando.Elizalde777]

@@MundoRetroMxGdl Tienes el link'' ? Pásalo

[@andieasecas8677]

Debe ser que los cantantes no eran los suficientemente atractivos xD

[@Valevalero8]

Milli Vanilli era un paquete, música, baile, atractivo..por eso tampoco triunfaron los Real Milli Vanilli, eran básicamente feos.

[@projectanimatedstories876]

Por que esta versión nunca salió a el mercado, la robaron cuando era solo un demo

[@kylecruel]

This version was the only one which was true, as soon as it was stolen it was all lies from then on.

[@torinux4980]

What happens in the recently Milli Vanilli movie: “Girl you Know It's True”, is the closest depiction of how shit happened. Fab always put the full blame on Farian and Arista. But there's a known wrestler (at least here in México, called “Vampiro Canadiense”), he says he worked for them as a bodyguard. Chris Jericho always said that wasn't true, but after watching the movie, I know Vampiro is telling the truth. Vampiro said, Arista and Farian agreed to come clean to screw them up and get rid of them in the process without paying them a dime. Arista and Farian had enough of them being complete assholes. Vampiro said all they did during the little free time they had, was acting like complete assholes, getting high, drunk, and having sex. All in all, I think no one here was a victim. All of them, Fab and Rob specially, knew they were playing with fire.

[@unrhu]

Complete BS story, don't believe a word you just said

[@jtmckie]

Yoo this shit so fire!

[@BijouBakson]

The original artist got nowhere while the phonies kept on benefitting, even till today

[@wavydavybeats]

that's the name of the game, you'll be surprised

[@400_billion_suns]

The only phony who really benefited from this was the evil producer Frank Farian, and the other record company execs who got in on it. ALL of the actual artists got screwed, and Rob and Fab took all the blame.

[@im-gi2pg]

He became president of def jam records.

[@BijouBakson]

@@im-gi2pg Oh wow, really? Well, that's justice!

[@unrhu]

No they sued Farian got Royalties from Milli Vanilli. One became a huge record exc at Def Jam, discovered Toni Braxton and had mad numerous hits with artist like Timbaland and still works in the music industry today

[@danradu2471]

Wow! This band realy performed fantastic 🎉🎉🎉❤ f.kk milli villi

[@jasonpeters9865]

U see? If your 44 or older? When it comes to Milli Vinilli or Vanilla Ice? First thing comes me and most above 44? In Living Color sketches/parodies of both them b4 actual artists

[@rainbow-6-siege]

this original version is so boring. germans can simply make music better.

[@cressapellom4205]

No Germans are obliviously thieves and liars. Like frank.

[@yudabanaspati5430]

This original version by numarx is better

[@shampoojones5447]

SYSK brought me here. This is the original song that was ripped off by the producer of Milli Vanilli.

[@marcelomurielpaez]

LA VERSION ORIGINAL....meses despues un Productor Aleman quien se hizo millonario y famoso con los Boney M ... quizo aplicar la misma receta con dos jovenes de raza negra el uno de origen aleman y el otro frances... el resto de la historia ya la saben...

[@nadeemtariq3749]

This version is dry. I woulda stole it and made it better too 😂

[@mrchill3007]

Frank Farian had that 💵💵💵 tho... He had all the updated drum machines and racks This almost sounds like a demo version to the Milli Vanilli track

[@V_Kint.]

this original version is better than Milli Vanilli one

[@waverlyphillips2849]

Wow the Milli vanilli version was not a cover this was blatant rip off.

[@RainerStrophenkilla]

And milli vanilli robbed her of her fame Thank you, frank farian

[@qrautboy]

Ah ja und Jack White raubte RAF den Erfolg weil seine Version von Self Control mit Laura Branigan besser war ? So ein Blödsinn

[@rgh97]

난 알아요~ 표절했다는 사실을 나는 알수가 알수가 있어요~

[@alessandrozara924]

In 1989, Milli Vanilli's cover of this song contributed to their fail. In fact that music project is the greatest music fraud of all times. There are 3 key facts that can prove this: 1) Fab Morvan and Rob Pilatus didn't know the English language very well but in the songs the language was perfect (this means that they were singing in playback). 2) In July 1989, Milli Vanilli were on stage at an amusement park in the USA and they were performing "Girl You Know It's True" but, during the concert, the beginning of the refrain started to repeat itself while Milli Vanilli were going on with their performance. This accident made the spectators discover that they were actually listening to a pre-recorded track on vinyl disc. 3) In order to let the people know the truth behind the duo Milli Vanilli, their producer decided to create a band with the real singers of Milli Vanilli's songs. Because of this, the band was called The Real Milli Vanilli.

[@Cameron-wi9io]

This isn’t groundbreaking news

[@donaldclark4286]

CLARIFICATION: "3) In order to let the people know the truth behind the duo Milli Vanilli, their producer decided to create a band with the real singers of Milli Vanilli's songs. Because of this, the band was called The Real Milli Vanilli." A) Farian did not care about "letting the people know the truth." The only reason he divulged the secret was to beat Rob and Fab to the punch. Rob and Fab DEMANDED to sing on the next album and threatened to go to the media. Farian did not want them singing. Frank Farian flew to New York and told the media on his own in an effort to scapegoat and put all of the blame on Rob and Fab. The real performers were present at the news conference. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3LIeoJ8hJJqbrc B) The truth behind Milli Vanilli was already known well before Farian held his press conference. Charles Shaw, one of the real rappers whose voice was used, disclosed to New York Newsday writer John Leland in December of 1989 that he was one of three singers on Milli Vanilli's hit debut album, and that Milli Vanilli frontmen Rob Pilatus and Fabrice Morvan were impostors. Milli Vanilli producer Frank Farian reportedly paid Shaw $150,000 to retract his statements and fired him, replacing him with John Davis, who became the new Milli Vanilli rapper. Shaw's story was widely discredited and not believed. Later, he was proven right. C) Farian did not "create a band with the real singers." He had already worked with them for years BEFORE he met Rob and Fab. D) The band "The Real Milli Vanilli" also operated under many falsehoods, using a few "pretty faces" to act as front persons, although the real performers were present. (This is explained in the bio-pic.)

[@LautaroSoler-tu5hb]

frank farian hizo magia . con ese tema, sino, nadie les diera el credito

[@LautaroSoler-tu5hb]

early milli vanilli

[@gmail4218]

These were the actual singers on the Milli Vanilli version!

[@der_bo]

Bullshit! The real voices of Milli Vanilli were Charles Shaw, John Davis and Brad Howell - not Numarx. This Song was covered by Milli Vanilli!

[@kingperalta]

Nope, they weren't! 😀

[@LibraJohnny]

No, this is the original version covered after by Milli Vanilli with much more success.

[@StevenQ74]

No, the Milli Vanilli version was sung by Charles Shaw, John Davis, and Brad Howell