The Car That Changed Volvo FOREVER - Volvo 850R

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Number 27

6 ай бұрын

The 1995 Volvo T5, T5R and 850R were revolutionary, they were the company's first cars that were good to drive and changed the image of Volvo forever. A fantastic turbocharged 5 cylinder engine with 250hp, passive rear steer and a more modern look made this the best Volvo yet.
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@drumtum
@drumtum 6 ай бұрын
That glorious 5 cylinder sound is classic.
@henrikcarlsen1881
@henrikcarlsen1881 6 ай бұрын
...and he didn't mention that by a word. KZbinr error.
@zensamui2409
@zensamui2409 4 ай бұрын
Especially when you lifted the foot of the throttle . Blub, blub, blub
@MS-yy2dh
@MS-yy2dh 6 ай бұрын
I have owned my 850 for 30 years. The reason I was attracted to Volvos was for the reliability and durability. My first Volvo was a 1981 244, in which I covered more than 300k miles. It is so easy to forget how all the competition was rusting away back then.
@peteglanton9259
@peteglanton9259 6 ай бұрын
Do you still drive it on salted roads in winter? How’s it holding up rust wise? Would you get it undersealed or is the factory rust protection still working?
@MS-yy2dh
@MS-yy2dh 6 ай бұрын
@@peteglanton9259 Yes, I drive it in all weathers. I'm on 220k miles now. My experience is that these 850s don't tend to rust. The only areas where I've had any rust have been the right front wing, which I replaced (fairly easy job, just bolts on) and the rear wheel arches, behind the plastic liners. I'm going to inspect that this summer and treat as needed.
@Dan23_7
@Dan23_7 6 ай бұрын
30 years ??!!!!! Blimey mate you must love it. Good on you 👍🏼
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 6 ай бұрын
850s/early s/v70s have awesome rust protection. This can't be said about 2 Series though
@beatglauser9444
@beatglauser9444 6 ай бұрын
@@MS-yy2dh mine never showed any sign of rust. It was thanks to electronic nonsense I had to get rid of it.
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton 6 ай бұрын
In 1995 the 850 won 4 races and was pole positon 13 times, a record at the time. Not bad at all.
@christian-van-e
@christian-van-e 6 ай бұрын
It was not (quote) “horrible at racing”
@lennyvalentinoSchiaretti_lvs
@lennyvalentinoSchiaretti_lvs 6 ай бұрын
Exactly, it was relatively successful!!!
@esolthailand7439
@esolthailand7439 6 ай бұрын
@@christian-van-ewas going to say the same thing, unless there’s been a huge Mandela effect at work here!
@duncanhamilton5841
@duncanhamilton5841 6 ай бұрын
@@christian-van-e and '95 was peak BTCC - everyone and their dog was out there, with the best tin top drivers - BMW, Alfa, Vauxhall, Ford, Renault, Audi, Volvo, Toyota. Even finishing in those days was a massive achievement
@alfm388
@alfm388 6 ай бұрын
Although in saloon form
@onecookieboy
@onecookieboy 6 ай бұрын
Back when I was still working as a mechanic (1990's) I used to drive a pair of 850T's that we serviced regularly and I always thought that they were a nice, comfortable and refined car, certainly a cut above the Holden, Nissan, Mazda and even Alfa's that came through our doors most of the time. They were practical cars as well, built in kids booster seats and a 3rd row in the estate/wagon and plenty of room inside. The star of the show was undoubtedly the engine, that 5 cylinder offbeat sound made it addictive to drive and they had good torque and power even if they weren't the fastest car ever. In short, I liked them.
@Jeffrey_M
@Jeffrey_M 6 ай бұрын
A common misconception is that the Touring car was a turbo. It was a tuned normally aspirated 2 litre which used very clever rule bending engineering by TWR in its cylinder head design. The cable throttle of these can go stiff with age. A squirt of penetrating fluid on the cable solves the problem.
@trevorockwell8764
@trevorockwell8764 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Jack. Great review, I enjoyed watching it. I have a new throttle cable that I had made that I plan to fit. Loved doing the drive-by shots. A pleasure to meet you.
@davesmith60
@davesmith60 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing it with us all Trevor.
@flavioc5389
@flavioc5389 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful car! A couple of questions: what’s the brands of the diff and the suspension?? Thanks
@trevorockwell8764
@trevorockwell8764 6 ай бұрын
@@flavioc5389BC Racing BR coilovers and Gripper LSD.
@trevorockwell8764
@trevorockwell8764 6 ай бұрын
I’ve changed the throttle cable today for one that I had custom made as RHD ones are NLA. It is so much better now. 😊
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful car. Loved seeing it here and Jack is about as old Top Gear as it gets. Very, very good. Apart from him missing praise on the five pot sound. I run a modernish Volvo V50.
@ScrewwyLouie
@ScrewwyLouie 5 ай бұрын
Can you somehow help me source one for mine🤣🤦🏻‍♂️ im in uk
@patrickd9551
@patrickd9551 19 сағат бұрын
Good on you. Probably the cable was just a bit too worn and hasn't been properly lubed in years. Sure cables have a bit more friction compared to a electronic throttle, but that shouldn't stop you from performing maintenance ;) But I love how you've kept up with your Volvo. It looks marvelous. The main reason I turned down one was that it had a spoiler and it look ridiculous in my mind, only to find out it was factory standard 😅 But my current V50 runs just as fine, but it ain't a 850 or even an older style V70.
@Birmingham_racing
@Birmingham_racing 6 ай бұрын
The Volvo that made me love Volvo and will never get bored of that 5 cylinder sound
@TheGreatDotfish
@TheGreatDotfish 6 ай бұрын
Nice to see an 850 review, I had the T5 variant and throttle was not at all heavy. I suspect this needs a new cable. This example also needs some suspension fettling as I've not seen one bounce and look quite so jittery. Even with upgraded suspension and springs. I'm surprised the engine hardly got mentioned, the glorious 5 cylinder sound is one of the key things that makes a T5 special.
@sailingspark9748
@sailingspark9748 6 ай бұрын
I had a standard 850, the sound that came out of that I5 was sonorous. As it climbed the rev band it culminated in a wonderful howl at full tilt.
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 6 ай бұрын
I suspect the suspension "upgrades" have been overdone. over-stiff springs, and especially too-stiff dampers will make just about any car bounce. It's harder than most people give credit to engineer a setup that actually works on a broken surface.
@trevorockwell8764
@trevorockwell8764 6 ай бұрын
It has BC Racing BR coilovers with 6kg.mm springs.
@nuttycommuter3718
@nuttycommuter3718 6 ай бұрын
I had a 850 T-5 (which I would argue is the car that changed Volvo forever, rather than the R) and the noise was mind-blowing. When I first picked it up from the garage, I got it warmed up, put some go faster petrol in and found somewhere to accelerate. Put my foot down and thought, yes this is good and then it hit 4k rpm and everything went blurry and the noise filled my head. It was intoxicating. I’m a die-hard SAAB fan but I miss that noise. The 900 T16s sounds good, but no other Saab comes anywhere near sounding as good as the T-5.
@taxus750
@taxus750 6 ай бұрын
@@aussiebloke609 My thoughts too - a sports-y set-up with a bit of give would've been how Volvo set these up, not crashy.
@markbray2988
@markbray2988 6 ай бұрын
As a Volvo for life guy for over 40 years, it's brilliant to see you feature one of the icon's of modern automotive history Jack, thank you 👏🏻 I still miss my T5M to this day.
@honda4185
@honda4185 6 ай бұрын
Rickard Rydell and his 850 is still magic and was awsome to look at on tv.!!!👌
@glenhowell3420
@glenhowell3420 6 ай бұрын
I had an 850R many years ago and I absolutely loved it! The throttle was fine on our one. It was certainly the fastest way to get your fishing gear to the lake !
@333mystic
@333mystic 6 ай бұрын
We had the 850 T5 and then the C70 T5 and both did over 150,000 faultlessly in 3 years each. Such a joy to own and drive
@artmccartan4911
@artmccartan4911 6 ай бұрын
Having owned a 95 Gul yellow T5R and a black 96 850R this was a welcome video. Both cars were the 854's and my only regret is not owning a wagon. Currently own a 2020 S60 T6 R design/polestar but would buy an updated version of the 850R in a heartbeat
@bartzijp8159
@bartzijp8159 6 ай бұрын
I own the successor of this car, a 1999 V70 R AWD. Beautiful car, remapped to 300 bhp and fun to drive. ❤
@damianfuller74
@damianfuller74 6 ай бұрын
That engine sound! Delicious 5 cylinderness! Lovely cars. Cracking results in racing. Cheers
@foxstrangler
@foxstrangler 6 ай бұрын
I test drove an 850 T5R auto once....and found out the brakes do seem a bit lacking...but it did go right round the roundabout ok! Life at that time didn't allow for the Flying Banana that I was offered then. But now...I have a C70 T5 GT. I love the surprised look on the faces of the hot hatch brigade in the mirror. Lovely cruiser on a sunny day with the top down. Even BMW drivers say it has class!
@AVM-Music
@AVM-Music 5 ай бұрын
Lifelong Volvo fan, so it’s pleasing to see the 850R Older Volvos were awesome Gotta get myself back into a 240
@busybee3141
@busybee3141 6 ай бұрын
Love the sound of those 5 cylinders!
@guygrenke266
@guygrenke266 2 ай бұрын
I had the immediate successor to the 850R the V70R. Throttle was smooth and progressive
@mehrzahl2219
@mehrzahl2219 6 ай бұрын
I can recommend the 850 and the first gen X70. I have owned an 850, V70 T5 and now a C70 T5. So much fun driving these, nothing like the modern disconnected driving experience. Easy to maintain, maybe a bit heavy on fuel but hey - no depreciation! Get one before they really get expensive or just disappear.
@Oldsmobile69
@Oldsmobile69 6 ай бұрын
It's funny how Volvo handling just plummetted after that and hasn't really recovered.
@Weazelmania
@Weazelmania 6 ай бұрын
The bubble has already burst on P80s, especially 850Rs. They're not going back up in price any time soon.
@jayartz8562
@jayartz8562 13 күн бұрын
Yay, C70 T5 95% of the V/S 70 at 1/4 of the price, slightly flawed but doesn't get enough love.
@mrb9536
@mrb9536 6 ай бұрын
Finally a proper car . Well done for getting a t5 on .
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 6 ай бұрын
Favourited police car in Dutch police. Epic machine! Greetings from the Netherlands
@ernestomorales2487
@ernestomorales2487 2 ай бұрын
Best Volvo ever! And that 5 cylinder sound!
@user-pu4xm1pd6e
@user-pu4xm1pd6e 6 ай бұрын
Had the pleasure of driving one of these back in the day. Ended up in a traffic light Grand Prix against a 5 litre HSV Holden Commodore. Blew his doors off. Hilarious 😂
@rubyremi3832
@rubyremi3832 6 ай бұрын
Couldn’t find a decent t5 r so just purchased a p80 v70r AWD , no regrets
@jackburtonstwin
@jackburtonstwin 6 ай бұрын
The volvo five-banger has a lovely off-beat sound when you put your foot through the throttle. Sounds far more sporty that it has any right to and, according to a guy I knew who developed race and marine applications of these 2.5 engines, they could handle some serious power with just off the shelf upgrades and insane power if they were seriously worked over.
@Floorguy1000
@Floorguy1000 6 ай бұрын
Very nice review video! I owned a 1995 850 T5R. Had very young kids at the time and the car had an integrated child seat in the middle of the second row....was absolutely great. I also had as an option two rear facing jump seats that were put to good use. Car was very quick, and I just loved the tubo lag when I put my foot down at around 40mph....actually pushed me back into my seat. The car was very practical as the back seats folded forward completely flat giving you a huge area for cargo.....flat folding was something the much more expensive Audi Estate did not do. I will also say I had a poster of the racing Estates in my garage.
@andrewkatz3845
@andrewkatz3845 6 ай бұрын
I had an 850R and I never noticed anything odd about the throttle. That needs looking at. It's good that the brakes have been upgraded. I had a very sticky moment once when braking hard after a speedy run, and the the brake fade was so bad that the I completely lost braking when entering a roundabout. Luckily there was no traffic on it. I also (in theory) had traction control on mine, but I never detected it operating.
@andrewpreston4127
@andrewpreston4127 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Love that dashboard, and the 5-cylinder sound.
@Norrlands-rg5vm
@Norrlands-rg5vm 10 күн бұрын
Gotta be the best looking wagon ever created
@psykoklown874
@psykoklown874 6 ай бұрын
I've always wanted, but could never afford one of these. There's just something really sexy about the 850 wagon that Volvo lost after this generation.
@guldtegel
@guldtegel 6 ай бұрын
Love the 850, I’ve known my 850 wagon since 1995 and I still have it! It’s a great car that saved the brand indeed 💪 🇸🇪 I really enjoyed watching this so thanks so much!! -Tim G 🇺🇸
@tomasjones3755
@tomasjones3755 6 ай бұрын
I own a 1st year V70 T5; essentially an 850. Bought as a project. Easy to work on & parts are much more affordable; than the German brands Now that I'm old, the Volvo is 'Grandpa's Sleeper.' Think of it as a Grand Tourer; for Antique Dealers & Hoarders
@alaricbragg7843
@alaricbragg7843 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! Great historical and racing footage! Not a strong seller in New Zealand but local motoring journalists regarded the 850 well.
@razvanlupu7507
@razvanlupu7507 4 ай бұрын
Hi there.Nice video.I used to have a 850 GL sedan,which was a 2.3cc,aspired engine,two camshaft,5 cylinder 144hp,automatic,a pleasure to drive.And the "sport" button did work,made all the difference.
@markchip1
@markchip1 6 ай бұрын
I went from a 960 3 litre to a T5 (dogs & windsurfing) and I loved it! Never had any issue with the throttle pedal and it was an absolute blast, routinely showing up many a sports car - even when toting all the windsurfing gear!
@chefluvfood
@chefluvfood 6 ай бұрын
Simply iconic a car it's generation,still as handsome as when it first showcased 👌❤👍
@cruachan1191
@cruachan1191 6 ай бұрын
Remember seeing one of these on Wheeler Dealers and Ant Anstead raving about it as he'd driven the police version a lot in his days with the TFU.
@TheLincolnshireFlyer
@TheLincolnshireFlyer 5 ай бұрын
I’m a huge fan of Volvo estates. I was lucky enough to drive the T5 estates for over a decade as a Traffic Cop. Nothing but praise for them.
@housey4297
@housey4297 6 ай бұрын
Now THIS is a cool car. My dad had the saloon 850T back in the day. Comfiest seats ever and lovely sound. We both took the yellow 850R out for a run when that arrived and that, back then, was seriously rapid for the time.
@Number27
@Number27 6 ай бұрын
Yep, serious mid range grunt!!
@vilhelmiina.
@vilhelmiina. Ай бұрын
When i got my license i bought myself the cheapest, closest car i could find that was a 98 S70.. that started my journey to volvos and 6 years of owning an R i am still loving the car. Most people i meet and speak to don't see what i see in the car they only see the kms/miles it has done and the age of it, but for me it brings enjoyment and gives me hell of a grin when they realize its not a boring slow volvo.
@lil4bugsy
@lil4bugsy 6 ай бұрын
Ive got a t5 s60 - same engine, love it. KZbin videos sound compilations were a key factor in my decision - and btcc
@James-ld2jc
@James-ld2jc 6 ай бұрын
I really appreciate these videos Jack. Volvo 850 is another car I like...
@paulfixdivcars5614
@paulfixdivcars5614 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your channel 👍 In 1996 I bought a T5R , green, black inside and automatic. It was very fast even fully loaded with dog I passed many BMW’s 😊. It was indeed a bit bumpy on the B roads. Sold it in 1998 😬
@gkjsooley
@gkjsooley 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this!
@DoubleDeckerAnton
@DoubleDeckerAnton 6 ай бұрын
I've owned my 940 2.3LPT for 16 years and its a beautiful drive, even though its heavy. Volvo's have a quality feel about them and the 850 T5, T5R and R were game changers for Volvo.
@mre7862
@mre7862 6 ай бұрын
Don’t care about it’s shortfalls… it’s still cool as fupp and I want one. Got a modern day V60 T5 R Design to keep me going in the meantime. Dynamically, it’s not a patch on the F11 535d it replaced, but it is leaps and shoulders better for reliability and standard fit tech.
@luiscarlosvieira3966
@luiscarlosvieira3966 6 ай бұрын
The racing 850 was done by Tom Walkinshaw which, years earlier, had a sticker on his Jaguar XJS saying "Real Men Don't Drive Volvo"...
@michaelpegasiou4531
@michaelpegasiou4531 6 ай бұрын
I had an s60 t5 manual saloon,throttle pedal was soft as anything and gear lever was the aluminium ball type had a lovely action to it.
@richardprice7763
@richardprice7763 6 ай бұрын
I only had a lowly 2.5 20 valve but that engine had a lovely sound especially when you lifted off the gas....
@theguycalledgerald
@theguycalledgerald 6 ай бұрын
Really loved them in the pale yellow and the dark green metallic
@davidbrear8642
@davidbrear8642 6 ай бұрын
The strength of 850s is legendary. There's a video somewhere on KZbin of a French guy in a scrap yard driving an 850 estate staight into the back of a Peugeot hatchback. The Peugeot is flattened, but the Volvo looks fine. The guy goes on to smash the 850 into several other vehicles. I think he even rolls it using a ramp. No matter what he does to it, the 850 holds its shape and still drives.
@gazzafloss
@gazzafloss 6 ай бұрын
A bit like the Top Gear Toyota Hilux then...😮
@davidbrear8642
@davidbrear8642 6 ай бұрын
@@gazzafloss I've just found the video (titled: 'volvo 850 crash test'), but I remembered wrong. It seems to be Russian, not French. However, the guy is using mostly old French hatchbacks as the targets for the 850. He slams into a Citroen at what looks like 50+ MPH. The Citroen folds up like a cardboard box.
@gazzafloss
@gazzafloss 6 ай бұрын
@@davidbrear8642 I remember years back watching a KZbin vid of some guy running a Volvo engine flat out throttle wedged full open and feeding beach sand into the air induction tract and oil filler. The old Volvo, (4 cyl 244), just kept on revving until it ground to a halt a fair bit later. I feel a lot of "mechanical empathy" so I really dislike seeing people treating any vehicle this way, or purposely crashing them, but older Volvo's were notoriously tough cars.
@davidbrear8642
@davidbrear8642 6 ай бұрын
@@gazzafloss We bought an 850 tdi estate around 20 years ago, to be used as part of a pony club business. It was is time warp condition, even though it had 240 000 kms on the clock. The 850 is still going strong today, and looks quite smart, with around double that. Regularly serviced by ourselves and a friendly neighbour who is a mechanic, it has only ever broken down once - when a guide pulley on the accessory belt seized. Everything still works, except the heated seats. Along with the original engine and gear box, as far as I know, it retains its original: alternator, air conditioning compressor, exhaust, clutch, etc.
@jnijborg
@jnijborg 6 ай бұрын
Great roar, this 5 cyl! 😍
@antn8387
@antn8387 6 ай бұрын
I bought a clean title 850R Saloon in rough shape, but I knew she was a gem. I put some work into the 850R and it's been a really nice project car.
@Tinovodanovic
@Tinovodanovic 6 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful car.
@alaricbragg7843
@alaricbragg7843 6 ай бұрын
Actually the 850 wagon came third in a race in Australia in 1995. Granted, the competition there was not as great as the BTCC, but it was still up against full strength works Audi and BMW teams.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 6 ай бұрын
Ohh yes, would love one of these one day 🙌 Great video buddy 🎬
@Number27
@Number27 6 ай бұрын
Thanks dude!!
@gonncalomariamonteiro4176
@gonncalomariamonteiro4176 6 ай бұрын
Had one of those, ten years ago...regret selling it ever since. Not at all a B-Road special, more like an autobahn family rapid cruiser. Although it was never the fastest wagon out of the mark, from 3rd upwards, on full boost, man that thing could go ! Mine was manual and in 4th it reached 200kph...and then there was 5th... Drunkard on petrol, but that 5cyl growl still resonates in my memory as one of the best sounds produced by mankind. Nice review, pitty about the weather and location...on fast sweepers it would probably changed your mind. One last thing: Volvo's first FWD were the 400 series ! Try a 480turbo if you have the chance. Cheers
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 6 ай бұрын
My next door neighbour has one, it's a very light metallic green/blue lovely car! Unfortunately my next door neighbour has had his wallet well and truly pillaged by the 850R on multiple occasions 😂..... He loves it tho!......oh I'm now a member Jack 👌👍
@nialloswald9053
@nialloswald9053 6 ай бұрын
Don't forget that Volvo were also successful in racing with the 242 Turbo back in the '80s. The US-market adverts for the 240 and 740 Turbo wagons made a big deal of the performance, but they weren't anywhere near as powerful as the 850s.
@malcolmlane-ley2044
@malcolmlane-ley2044 6 ай бұрын
I had a V70 T5 new in 1998, the plus points... so comfortable, so fast, so delightful aurally, so practical. The bad points? it (me) shredded front tyres at 10k miles, it was very frightening if the turbo boost cut in when you were going round a roundabout in the wet and finally, all my colleagues wanted to keep borrowing it.
@paullondon5332
@paullondon5332 6 ай бұрын
I had one as a company car for a while and it was mad! Best thing most other drivers just weren’t expecting it
@garrydiggins3181
@garrydiggins3181 6 ай бұрын
Love the sound of five pot
@dusandestanovic5884
@dusandestanovic5884 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review.
@Levenstone132
@Levenstone132 6 ай бұрын
Mine's a 97 V70 T5SE wagon. It's just a laugh to floor it sometimes when these young'uns in their SUVs see an old bloke in an old (saga insured)car!
@steveelliott3591
@steveelliott3591 6 ай бұрын
I had a 96R Wagon in the US. I bought it new the last day of the year. I kept it till the mid 2000’s and still to this day regret ever letting it go. Black over the blonde interior, loved 99.9% ownership of the car. The rubber band tires offered the 7 spoke wheels zero protection. I had to have them repaired more than once. The car was comfortable, good gas mileage, plenty of interior space for everything. I don’t ever recall the throttle being still at all.
@nickfarrow9032
@nickfarrow9032 6 ай бұрын
Wondered when you were going to get one on the channel! I have a 1997 V70 T5 (about 10 less BHP, but essentially the same shape) and it's awesome. You get two cars for the price of one: it's an absolute luxury barge at low revs, but when you press the loud pedal and the turbo cuts it, it takes off and you get that inimitable 5 cylinder warble. RE: throttle pedal, that's exactly how mine is! I thought there was something wrong with it when I got it, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's supposed to be. For the first week of ownership I thought there was something wrong with the engine as it seemed so slow, until I realised you had to push the very heavy pedal down further! IMO Volvo introduced the heavy pedal to try and promote some kind of fuel economy. These cars are thirsty to say the least. I struggle to get over 20mpg in mine and that's not a R!
@trevorockwell8764
@trevorockwell8764 6 ай бұрын
Interesting! I’m used to it now too.
@charlottedecorday
@charlottedecorday 4 ай бұрын
If you are only getting 20mpg, clean your mass air flow and *replace* your front O2 sensor -- it can be out of spec without throwing a code. These cars should be able to get 26-27mpg on the highway.
@nickfarrow9032
@nickfarrow9032 3 ай бұрын
​@@charlottedecordaymine will get 30 mpg on the motorway if that's all it's doing, but much of my driving is around town so 20-23 mpg is fairly normal. I think you might be US based (as you said highway!) and our gallons in the UK are different to the US gallons for some weird reason!
@charlottedecorday
@charlottedecorday 3 ай бұрын
I am US based, good catch! Yeah, combined I get about 21-22 mp(US)g when I can keep my foot out of it. Planning a manual swap soon which I hope will net me a bit more efficiency along with a lot more fun. Over here we only got slushboxes with our turbos and Rs 😕 But FWIW, treating the O2/Lambda sensor as consumable has been the key to good performance for me @@nickfarrow9032
@diegaulle9143
@diegaulle9143 6 ай бұрын
This is the one that I was waiting for!
@VinDieselS70
@VinDieselS70 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video and finally an 850 👍🏼 Now the first front wheel drive Volvo was the 400 series introduced with the 480 which was introduced in 1986. When it comes to the 850R, TWR was involved working on the engine but initially, the 5 cylinder engine is derived from straight 6 which was introduced with the 960, was indeed designed and developed with the help of Porsche including the exhaust to get the right sound from it. The TRACS, traction and stability control on original cars only works up to 40kph or 25 mph and works really well. All Volvos pedals are stiffer compared to other cars so that's something one gets used to. The T-Red as it was called in Sweden, was sold with the light wood interior as standard but you could also choose other interior options. The suspension had softer springs as standard but stiffer shock absorbers as the previous 850T-5R had even stiffer springs so Volvo made the R model more comfortable 😅
@IMTHEBIGGESTCUNT
@IMTHEBIGGESTCUNT 5 ай бұрын
A friends Dad had a N-reg in Green, black leather. Brand new at the time! We all loved it!
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton 6 ай бұрын
Yes! Mine has been off the road for a few years, but still the best car I've ever owned.
@terminal-velocity111
@terminal-velocity111 6 ай бұрын
Don’t worry M8, you’ve still got the beast 😅. You’ll get it back on the road in the spring 😊
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton 6 ай бұрын
@@terminal-velocity111 that's what I keep telling myself haha.
@danielmoberg4758
@danielmoberg4758 6 ай бұрын
Had a black 850R manual wagon 1997 a couple of years ago. It was a dream car for me and it did not let me down meeting my hero. I think it also had a remap and it had 3 inch downpipe.The car was the most happy when passing cars going 50mph from 3 gear it pulled hard and there was many modern cars that this sleeper just walked away from. The car was sold to a nice guy but he lost control of it and it burnt to the ground. He got away without injuries so i guess volvo safety worked.
@theoriginalmattman
@theoriginalmattman 6 ай бұрын
The '97 850R, was the best car, I've ever owned.
@RandyJM21
@RandyJM21 6 ай бұрын
Love Volvo Sleepers. Here in the U.S. Volvo wagon plus Chevy or Ford small block V8 is relatively common . The Movie star / Race car driver Paul Neuman was fond of building V8 Volvo Wagons with manual transmission and LOVED them . He built one for David Lettermen the late nite host or essentially told him he needed one and Dave said he was so adamant AND PAUL NEUMAN so couldnt say no ( I believe it was not a gift , he just said OK my guys wil build it ) as they are the ultimate sleeper / sensible fun car for street for laughs . The ultimate expression of the smart sleeper and great for a famous person to move about having a pisser without drawing attention and blowing off people in flash cars and of course you have added safety . Of course for a commedian its the perfect car to mock people and make a joke. Paul new cars and of course had money and access to people who knew how to build them to work , go fast , stop and turn . But he thought they were humorous and I agree . A V8 Volvo wagon is a top choice of a cool car for me as I am fond of sleepers as well as safety and if your gonna overpower a sleeper car starting with a Volvo makes a lot of sense . You get the safety and of course you get the practicality along with the EXQUISITE fun of the most egoless design to shatter the ego of people in look at me cars and make them question everything they think they know. If I remember ,( this is how I like it done) he had them built with the quietest exhaust possible but with dumps to open pipe and not a whole bunch else to hint at potential besides some ride height and meats . I should refresh my memory before posting this but tired. But any Volvo fan either knows this or should look it up . With the quiet exhaust it just is the best way to hoon and not draw attention . You can make a ruckus and close the cut outs and the cops looking for the holligan go speeding past you looking for the guy in the hot rod . Pulling up to porsches , camaros , 308s ( sorry) and so on is just a pisser in a fast Volvo wagon .
@martinereeves
@martinereeves 6 ай бұрын
Re your comment about throttle, ours did 223000 miles before selling it, no problems with the throttle being stiff, you were correct about the brakes upgrade, it certainly needed it. Ours was top of the spec range and had everything on it, nothing ever needed fixing. The only bill apart from normal servicing that I carried out myself was the air conditioning clutch. My wife however broke the roll torsion bar, evidently the only one broken in the UK..! Overall an amazing car well done Volvo!
@kennykarlsson6691
@kennykarlsson6691 6 ай бұрын
This car is still relevant today. One of few cars that couldnt flip over. Great looking aswell. ❤
@davidwood4374
@davidwood4374 6 ай бұрын
I had the v70. Throttle not heavy at all. Totally reliable and super safe. But, juicy and the interior plastics crumbled.
@karldobbie2483
@karldobbie2483 6 ай бұрын
Love the mobile phone of the time
@johnireland1629
@johnireland1629 6 ай бұрын
I remember those well. Paul Newman had a Volvo wagon but with a big V8 shoved in it. It must have been a rear wheel drive model. Wasn't sure if it was the sun in your eyes or something about this car...but you usually are smiling more on these drives. A fun video. Thank you.
@mjohns5944
@mjohns5944 6 ай бұрын
I will always remember my 850. Great car. Well built. Never a moments problem. I then went on to a V70 T5 then later had the new V60 T5 and now on a XC60 T8 polestar engineered. None of them sounded like the old 5 cyl engine.
@richardelder6519
@richardelder6519 6 ай бұрын
What A machine! If there is one classic, you literally could use DAILY! It's this- plus you have to LOVE that Noise! Brings back the Quattro 20V all over again🤗😍😎
@lt.lasereyez8891
@lt.lasereyez8891 6 ай бұрын
The 850 had a traditional throttle cable to the throttle body, my old C70 did too, it tried to close the throttle body with 2 springs all the time, I assume for safety you don't want it to stay open all of a suddon. Then one merry old day my trottle pedal was much easier, I checked it out and one of the springs had broken. I never fixed it but then on was worried the remaining spring would snap and the car would unleash it's 250hp at random and the only thing I would be able to do is shut off the ignition. All later cars had electronic throttle with different issues.
@AnagramAutoclassics
@AnagramAutoclassics 6 ай бұрын
From my conversation with Tom Walkinshaw at the time, "The wagon was used for aerodynamic reasons. At speed the centre of pressure moved rearward and increased downforce on the rear wheels."
@benmarshall787
@benmarshall787 6 ай бұрын
Great video again as always. The 850 "Terminator" is one of my 90s favourites, and yes you're right it changed Volvo's 'boring' image forever. The T5 started the now ubiquitous badging , T6 then onto the diesel phenomenon D5. I have to say as a younger lad other than the T5 I wouldn't have looked at a Volvo, impressions were also gained (warning dad/,kid story coming). My dad bought a brand new 343GL in mint green, the car was finished superbly , had some great features but alas was a bit boring, despite the various parts in it. Renault 1.4 engine ok, alot of weight to lob about mind, and as I recall had a lovely stubby short throw 5 speed gearbox. You might say it ticked all the boxes. However in the winter of 1982, the Volvo despite it's "Swedishness" had all the grip of a jelly. To my delight SVH14X was traded in for ........our first family foray into the Ford stable!(sunburst red XR3i, A602HCX) Back to the 850, it really did well, the hotter versions had all the pukka options including as in your example Ash wood dash inserts and big wheels. They are capable of massive mileages and I think I'm correct in saying the Diesel versions used Audi powerplants. The final endorsement is of course West Yorkshire Police had Saloon T5s AND estate versions. As an aside to this , 30 years on to today, we have a fleet of 9 litre Volvo single decker buses at our depot, they have clocked up 750000 miles, and I can testify they pull like a train, I'm very jealous of the truckers with 700bhp plus to drive! Great video, lovely example of an R , but looks too low and feels it as you said. Just one observation, stiff throttle? Press harder Jack 😂!!!! Best wishes, and Seasons Greetings, Ben ☃️🇸🇪🧑‍🎄🦃🚌🚍
@dantheman7357
@dantheman7357 6 ай бұрын
Hi Jack, very nice car. It reminds me of the Volvo Wagon that actor Paul Newman had built with a V/8 engine in it. He loved it and he suggested that they should build one for his friend David Letterman who is a big fan of all cars. Dave ordered one and he really loved that car. I always thought that a Volvo Wagon with V/8 would make a wonderful performance car that was also practical and comfortable. I really wanted to get one built for myself but the Children wanted clothes and shoes and groceries and my Wife needed copious amounts of BonBons and shoes to fill her closets just in case she needed some for special events etc. so there was no money left over for my cars and necessities like V/8 conversions. I still want one, thanks for the great review.
@kasimirdenhertog3516
@kasimirdenhertog3516 6 ай бұрын
Fond memories of our V70 T5 ‘Italian spec’ - with 2.0 engine instead of 2.3 and a bigger turbo - on boost for hours on end on the German autobahn
@v8will
@v8will 6 ай бұрын
I never owned an R but had a couple of T5's years ago. Throttle wasn't heavy on them. Serious appetite for front tyres though, especially with a Rica remap.
@deadkemper
@deadkemper 6 ай бұрын
❤ there is a guy in Norwich driving one of these with the Omega livery !!!....legend
@alexjebson8271
@alexjebson8271 6 ай бұрын
Been waiting for a Volvo Review on this channel for ages!! Currently got a C70 Coupé MK1 2.0T Manual that was originally bought as my first car for £1200 and has been in my ownership for nearly 9 years now and it's not going anywhere. A truly fantastic car to own and that 5 Cylinder engine is an absolute peach. Flawed yes, but as an overall package goes, there's nothing out there that can match it in my opinion.
@nickbee5508
@nickbee5508 6 ай бұрын
Looks cool, sounds cool - that's all that matters to me!
@michaelshort7400
@michaelshort7400 6 ай бұрын
Owned one, same colour, best car, phenomenal road holding, great speed. Mine had no mods, did 300k miles. I meant to add that I had the auto, the Traction system worked well, remapping 275 bhp to deliver more without changing the tyres is not going to help on FWD! The best tyre was always the P-Zero, without those traction suffers. Very forgiving on understeer and mid turn high speed torque, easing off the power allowed the tyres to regain ascendancy. Though if you did it to harshly it was a bit of a snap. Main complaint was the wheels buckling. I bought 8 of them over the 15 years I owned it, but that's p zeros for you.
@trevorockwell8764
@trevorockwell8764 6 ай бұрын
I run Michelin Pilot Sport 5 tyres on mine, which I think are the best tyres for these. It was 2 degrees when this was filmed though!
@jamesf8864
@jamesf8864 6 ай бұрын
I remember jumping in the back of an 850 T5 as a kid when they first came out in the 90s. We were test driving it as my dad was considering one. All I remember is my head repeatedly being smacked by the headrest as he floored it in each gear 😂 Absolutely rapid in its day!
@simonhodgetts6530
@simonhodgetts6530 6 ай бұрын
Wonderful cars - what’s not to like about a quick Ovlov estate? Personally though I like the 960/V90 (the late 90s facelift for the 960, not the recent one) - good looking, amazingly comfortable and plush inside, and utterly fabulous to drive, with a straight 6 engine and a decent auto-box. RWD, and decent handling for such a big barge. One of the best cars I’ve ever driven.
@kamrankhan-lj1ng
@kamrankhan-lj1ng 6 ай бұрын
Ovlov! Did u really mean it!
@flavioc5389
@flavioc5389 6 ай бұрын
Imagine that 960 with a T5 and a manual.
@markotango54
@markotango54 6 ай бұрын
I thought it was a Mobile Speed Camera van in the layby at 6:20 at 1st Glance 😂
@IanSixbikes-by6ei
@IanSixbikes-by6ei 6 ай бұрын
Great to see you reviewing an 850 R , I owned a T5 & a T5R , loved them both , they were proper Q Cars (wolfs in sheep clothing) as for the throttle and suspensopn, I don't remember either of my cars having stiff throttles and unforgiving suspension, as far I can recall both cars were easy to drive very quickly , they handled beautifully for an estate car and most of all they both put a smile on my face every time I drove them, I can only assume the 850R you tested was a little tired.
@trevorockwell8764
@trevorockwell8764 6 ай бұрын
It has BC racing BR coilovers. I wouldn’t say it was tired though, I’ve done an awful amount of work on it. Every service item has been replaced and more. I need to drive another manual to see if the throttle pedal feels the same. I have got another throttle cable but it has been like that 3 years.
@simonhjc
@simonhjc 6 ай бұрын
Ps- from memory the throttle was such that you had the “punch” it and drive the car like you hated it. I found it tiring to drive not so much the car but our roads are broken, off camber and it felt more like a luxury go cart. I got a Subaru WRX after that and it was far more composed in the wet and on our roads. But great memories of the R
@sam85f
@sam85f 6 ай бұрын
Great video thanks! I owned one, I don’t remember the throttle being stiff. Mine was a US spec (they only sold them as sedans here with autos only) otherwise I believe they were the same. I do remember it having an old school laggy turbo, and a very primitive traction control. To answer your question I think the manual said something about the traction control working at low speed. I think it might have been meant for snow? Maybe it was just a locking diff. I can’t remember but it certainly isn’t like modern ESC, or even first generations of ESC. Regardless, it was a lot of fun. Wish I still had it. Go Swed Speed 🇸🇪 🫎!
@marky9117
@marky9117 6 ай бұрын
I own 2x P80 V70s (facelifted 850 basically). A non turbo and a modified T5. The throttle feel is fine. Like any other car. I can only think his throttle cable is rusted inside or something. Also the suspension looks a bit sub par on that. Bouncing it’s way through bends. Mine is great and can be hustled along nicely. Although that’s not what they’re made for and it’s nothing like as pleasurable as my 996 GT3 or even my 205 GTi. Oh and summer weather doesn’t mean more torque steer. It means more grip so less wheelspin in the first place. 😉 Anyway, viewing 30 year old Volvos on their dynamics is missing the point. It’s about about that 5 pot sound and the Etch-a-sketch styling. 👍🏻
@bobphillips2188
@bobphillips2188 6 ай бұрын
I LOVE the sound of that 5 pot unit! Even my 16 year old diesel 5 banger sounds good when pushed, but the petrol jobbie sounds wonderful. I'd love a late model 850, but the fuel consumption of the petrol units was dire. And the 5 pot diesel was the VAG unit, and it was trouble waiting to happen, in terms of durability and reliability. I'll keep my late Mk 2/2006/7 D5 though, 50+ mpg and an unburstable motor that'll do, maybe 3-400K before a rebuild (read scrapyard). But so good to hear that R5 growl, thanks.
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