Make a Platinum Electrode

[@NurdRage]

A major advantage of an assembled electrode over a plated electrode is that it's far easier to repair. If the titanium should decay it doesn't take the platinum with it. You can disassemble the electrode, get new titanium, and rebuild it with no loss of the valuable platinum.

[@Turtlefire1]

I love how you sneaked in the hint that its april first :D "The current exchange rate, on this day, april first" *winkwink*

[@sletharanamathine]

NurdRage can we make a hydrochloride acid out of oxalic acid

[@Mrdudeman]

Thereby negating the entire purpose of the platinum in the first place! Brilliant! I'll take 2 dozen.

[@mindmaster_osu]

When your soul is less than 1000 dollars... You have done some things in your life we don't know about.

[@mikewest3108]

LoL!

[@melkormorgoth7165]

"I bought this platinum coin with my soul and some Bitcoin" I literally died in that part XD

[@mechadrake]

his spooooky ghost probably posted it

[@melkormorgoth7165]

smzig good question XD

[@hgmercury7279]

smzig, he was eaten by dementors(soul sucking thingy)in harry potter

[@Nootson08]

Nice! Perhaps next you can show us the most efficient method for extracting dye from $100 bills!

[@carolynmmitchell2240]

Nootson08 easy off oven cleaner.. no joke.

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

Dye from 5$ bills,then print a 50$. So we can buy platinum coins!

[@aryanprivilege9651]

What? Just get from Latin Americans? Nah, central banking slavers are only legal criminals and they have free thugs we pay for? Oh no gotta figure milliamps per cm2 if had a coin bar ingot easy, screen hoe gives surface area, image it’s percentage of total as little reaches rear no? Hope given. I’ve been out of school so long and research we had cutting edge biology unlimited funding, but never exposed to microwave or electrochemistry. Yet first genetic code synth. Feel like a noob, but second set kids, adopted this time, same curiosity. Have to find basics text, if anyone has good source. We had abstracts? Sincerest thanks if get equipment again will offer, instead to school donations. 👍🏻

[@stamasd8500]

So I'm going again through this video after a year, and many seem to think it was a joke. It isn't in fact, except as pointed by NurdRage below the ridiculous price. This does work, but no need to spend $1000 on platinum to get a real platinum electrode. That ounce of platinum in the coin if properly processed would be enough to make many electrodes. I have in fact made a platinum electrode in a similar manner, but for much less money. I used a 5g platinum bar, also purchased with my soul (and some bitcoin on top) and stretched it very thin by hammering it between 2 sheets of leather. It's really the surface of the platinum that matters, not the bulk of the platinum trapped inside the bar or coin. I ended up with a thin piece that's about 6cm^2 per side, so about 12cm^2 total. I then spot welded this to the end of a titanium strip. It works nicely in a perchlorate cell. I trust the welded joint much more than plain mechanical assembly with bolts - salt will eventually creep between the titanium and the platinum at the mechanical joint and degrade the contact. I spent the equivalent of $170 on the platinum bar, and a couple of hours hammering on it. But I plan to enjoy my real platinum electrode for many years to come.

[@utsuhoreiuji6155]

This was an amazing read! how was your platinum electrode doing now in 2023?

[@teresashinkansen9402]

And even then i bet is possible to process the spent electrolyte to recover the platinum.

[@EugeneKhutoryansky]

This makes me hesitant to watch any other science videos released on April 1st.

[@ThePeterDislikeShow]

Actually there's nothing wrong with this. It's just expensive that's all. If you're really wealthy you can even get a 10-ounce platinum bar that's about 3-4 inches long. Then you can use an all-platinum electrode.

[@RedDogForge]

why? whats wrong?

[@cosmicjenny4508]

OH GOOD APRIL FOOLS DA- Oh wait, hold on...

[@McGeias]

Hey mate, if ya live in Ontario than feel free to message me if you ever want access to a cnc shop or tooling. If you need anything custom made just let me know, it's what I do everyday. Obviously you'll have to supply the raw material but my mill, lathe, powder coating, electroplating and general tooling abilities are something I'd be happy to donate as well as my time to the effort your making.

[@McGeias]

Alvis Gwa I am aware, Ontario is a province in Canada mate.

[@NurdRage]

Wow! that's an awesome offer! i'll keep it in mind. Thanks!

[@McGeias]

NurdRage anytime man, I've built apparatus for experimentation before when I was at Trent taking biochemistry,... which I dropped out of. Organic chem ruined my brain. Anyway I am originally an electrician by trade and have a huge background in electronics, micro controllers etc so if you need any help with any of that stuff, as well as the machining by all means ask away. My mill and lathe are both fairly small but for 90% of what I can imaging you ever needing what I have is plenty.

[@karlanm925]

Many of the companies sell 1 gram platinum bars at about $35-$45/piece. Another added benefit, besides the cost savings, is there is no need to see the Queens bust.

[@mmotitaniumanode8824]

We are a titanium manufacturer from China, we can provide any titanium products you need, this is our website, www.bjhighstar.com, please refer to it. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us, WhatsApp: [phone], email: [e-mail]

[@High_Caliber]

* Titanium coins purchased at the gift shop in the lobby may contain little or no titanium. *

[@Anamnesia]

I've worked with commercial grade titanium & found it very easy to work with. Drilling is comparable to drilling mild steel.

[@untermench3502]

Cutting sheet Titanium is a bit more of a problem. I invested in some Diamond cutting wheels for my Dremel and have been pleased with the results.

[@TheReid2DecoderTech]

These videos are always so awesome and very educational. Thanks NurdRage!!!

[@JamesAJ]

Ah! Fell for it!

[@timwrigley102]

I'm a jeweler/goldsmith, and this makes me cry. I could have make you something way better for FAR less.

[@NurdRage]

hehehe, it's an april 1st video. this is not meant to be taken seriously. :)

[@aajjeee]

i know a thing or 2 about canadian curreny, this kind of large coins are usually 20$-50$ of value + the cost of the metal +10% profit because they are collector's coins. this one looks like the 1oz platinum maple leaf minted between 1988 and 2002 that is worth about 1000$ (50$ face value) assuming the 950$ per ounce value of platinum, it actually looks like you are only loosing the 50$ by using it as platinum.

[@computercat8694]

*5%

[@aajjeee]

tis usually 10%, this time its 0% if you include face value unless you were talking about my typo ''50%'' which was meant to be a ''50$''

[@dalegregory6552]

Knew there was some sort of shenanigans when you pulled out a $3,000 coin. It works though :D

[@a_Lemming]

Honestly thought you were going to use a cartridge of Pokémon platinum or something instead of a coin

[@HntrSvrsn]

Hey you got a sponsor! thats awesome!

[@HotMudrs]

Really cool sponsor for this channel.

[@jozefnovak7750]

Super! Thanl you very much! Platinum electrode, that is my olden dream.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

This one has me a little confused. I am by no means a chemist so I have no idea if this is a total joke or just slightly a joke. I mean yeah it costs WAY more than just buying a pre-made one but it works doesn't it?

[@Mrdudeman]

The entire point of the platinum is to protect the more vulnerable titanium from corrosion in the form of a coating. If you are literally just going to bolt a piece of Pt on to bare titanium strips, why bother? Just use plain Ti, it will have the same effect, and be cheaper.

[@MrJob91]

what about april 1st

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

Ahh okay that makes sense. When I first read that I read "to protect the more *valuable* titanium" and thought 'ummm what?'

[@NurdRage]

It's a slight joke. Technically this does work. But it's ludicrously expensive and no one in their right mind would ever do it. That being said, "bulk platinum" electrodes which use pure platinum elements do exist, but they usually use very thin platinum foils rather than thick coins. a coin is a very inefficient use of platinum since the surface area to mass ratio is much smaller than a foil.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

Awesome! thanks for the reply. It was one of those things where it both made sense and didn't to me. But I bet to a lot of people this is hilarious I am just not smart enough in chemistry to fully grasp it on a first viewing.

[@Ykulvaarlck]

i watched the whole thing and still wasn't confident that it was a joke you'r making me question whether i should still be subscribed

[@sgtjonmcc]

There several videos out there that describe the process of uniform thin film deposition and the at home manufacture of a device that can be used to achieve these results at home. I suggest you check them out or even contact the youtubers that are posting videos of their devices. It may allow you to get more use out of you platinum.

[@GodlikeIridium]

Platinum electrodes are awesome. And i'll never forget the manufacturers recommendation how to clean the platinum electrodes of our coulometric karl-fisher device (Same thing as the Karl-fisher titration, but instead of adding the reagents you create a part of them by oxidizing iodine I- to I2): Just clean them with a 1:1:1 solution of sulfuric acid, nitric acid and hydrogen peroxide xD A bit extreme, but since it's an awesome cleaning solution it won't attack the platinum electrodes, why not? Just don't mix the 3 compounds the wrong way or you'll get a huge cloud of nitrous gases xD

[@ghazighaznavi9696]

My Respected Sir best Pt electrodes process, too much Excellent👍.

[@rnttreed]

I'm not a chemist and you may have made a video exposing the true name and I may have not caught on but I was going to ask if you can extract iron from something and make a colored ferro fluid? Most of the ones I saw are from printer ink and always a jet black. I wanted to make one for my kids but in cool neon colors so they could play use the neodymium magnets to play with it in a black light or something? A lot of the names of chemicals you list in your videos, I have no idea what they are but I still love watching them. I'm not sure if you have already made something that could be used for that or if you wouldn't mind making a video like that? If you did, can you link it to this comment so I can watch it again? Thank you for all that you do.

[@senorjp21]

You're pulling my leg

[@T.Ty7]

"I'm going to use this platinum coin I purchased with my soul, some ad space, and some bitcoins." LOL

[@joraforever9899]

compressed copper-arsenium amalgam in combination with metalic hydrogen produces the best platinum free of electrons,which is the best thing for a platinum electrode.Its also very cheap and easy. (you should make a video about it)

[@ReedSwitchTube]

Why "fake platinum electrode" video is unavailable?

[@xenonram]

I had no idea that platinum is now about 20% cheaper than gold! That's crazy! You use the same tools to drill titanium, that you use to drill any other metal. A drill, and metal drill bits.

[@goodfeller2]

You need cobalt drill bits to drill metal like that. Which are far more expensive than your run of the mill bits. But I agree, those proprietary nuts and bolts were probably pretty expensive just because they are titanium.

[@ColtaineCrows]

For something thin like that you could drill it with any old drill bit, wouldn't matter. The coating is generally there for "non-stickness". In my experience titanium behaves a lot like aluminium when machined.

[@xenonram]

Mitchell G You can drill titanium with regular drill bits. Especially if you're only drilling two holes.If you're drilling titanium for work or production, then yeah cobalt coated or solid carbide bits are best. but it's not a matter of how well they'll cut, it's a matter of longevity. But for two holes, a regular bit from home depot will work just as well. It just wouldn't last very long. (In fact the few times I've drilled titanium, I drilled quite a few holes with regular TiN and black oxide bits.) Also, cobalt coated drill bits aren't very expensive. you could get a cobalt coated bit to drill those holes for just a few bucks.

[@1953Wes]

What you generally get in the "fake" anodes are coatings of palladium and/or rhodium over a cheap ferro titanium base. At least, that's what one I have appears to be. It'll work OK for 2 volt jewelry plating, but not last well in a perchlorate tank. HOWEVER, it does appear to me that the rhodium or palladium over titanium makes a very nice clean and not oxidized surface for plating lead dioxide for creating a much more durable anode. Thoughts?

[@11Rastafari11]

could you please reupload the fake-material-video?

[@eeezygoing]

I knew something was wrong when you said you didn't even have a drill to drill into the titanium strips. I was thinking What????? , .... Nurdrage does not even have a common electric drill??? lol

[@Hawk013]

Drilling titanium is a bit harder than just having a drill. If it is 4al6v, which is the most commonly used alloy for machining and fabrication purposes, it's even more difficult because the alloy is very tough, and does not conduct heat, which leads to burning your drill bit and softening the cutting edge, which leads to total edge failure. I recommend stub or screw machine length industrial grade HHS drill bits, and you want to do this in a drill press if at all possible. Buy a pack of whatever size you plan on using, because you are likely going to burn at least one. Run it slow, with even pressure, and lots of coolant. Too little feed pressure is also bad, because if it's not cutting it's rubbing, and that's heat that will also burn your tooling.

[@taiwanluthiers]

You don't want to use 6AL4V titanium for anodes... they are not nearly as chemically resistant as pure titanium. Always use Grade 2 or something. Unfortunately you will have to make your own nuts and bolt out of grade 2 because nobody makes them (they are all 6AL4V). Drilling titanium isn't that hard, I did it with a drill press. I even tapped it too.

[@Archiekunst]

I would hammer out the coin to increase its surface area...

[@r1w3d]

LFMAO as soon as I saw and heard one ounce of platinum I was thinking uh nope i have better things to do with my platinum coins haha. if it was silver sure. good job 🎩 you got me

[@CatboyChemicalSociety]

I knew it was a joke when i checked the date posted and i heard oh were just gonna use a ridiculously expensive platinum coin i was like ok id rather risk buying 100 electrodes off ebay with some being the odd fakes rather than spending on one extremely innefective version

[@maxximumb]

I'm sure this had chemists laughing their asses off. I still enjoyed it, although I think I just watched the electrolysis of water.

[@xdoods]

What if I chose to cut costs by using duct tape or elmer's glue? Might I also suggest just throwing out the platinum and using a tin can as an electrode. More surface area, more bang for your buck.

[@computercat8694]

The problem is glue/tape might dissolve.

[@samuelconnolly4549]

You can use your own urine as the salts

[@carolynmmitchell2240]

Samuel Connolly yeah the gas that comes off always smells amazing

[@samuelconnolly4549]

carolyn mmitchell I like to fill my house with the smells of electrolyted piss

[@matthewdockter2424]

I'm sure this is somehow a joke...I'm not sure wtf the point of the joke is or why it is funny....so.....ahhh.....you got me. Good work.

[@kdmjf12000]

Why is the Great Courses symbol at the beginning so low res? (Just look at NileRed's video for comparison.) It might give the wrong impression on the quality of video for people that are new to the channel. It also make me check my resolution setting to make sure it is set to HD.

[@NurdRage]

it as an error in rendering.

[@kdmjf12000]

No problem. Love your videos. keep up the good work!

[@alish5417]

How mixed metal oxide made ,i guess they mix the oxides to make a paste of oxides this then we cover the sheets of a steel mesh not titanium ,because u need only a thin layer of mmo layer ,but adding more with heat again makes it denser more condensed oxide layer ,layer upon layer

[@suhasdara3040]

I still am unable to figure out if this a prank or not. Cuz it looks stupid but is "working" at the same time.

[@wb5rue]

That was great. $1000 electrode. (I wondered if you were going to use the coin or plate something with it.

[@heintjealdrich3048]

Nurdrage, on ebay there is a lot of shops that claims to sell authentic Pt bullions, but people finds out that some of them are fake, can u provide a link where u purchase in your platinum? Thx!

[@lennartschmidt7255]

Hey, if this was not a joke and that really works (which I assume), does the platinum ounce suffer any damage of corrosion in the process of electrolysis? Is it maybe even resellable after years of usage as a regular ounce of platinum?

[@ruthere99]

As long as your platinum coin is not being consumed or damaged in the process, then why not employ a couple (temporarily) from your bullion collection and put them back when you're done?

[@NurdRage]

go for it! :) but if you actually have a collection for investment purposes then its best not to run the risk of damage. It could affect the future value.

[@tarlach1280x960]

Always use PayPal... That way if you are sold a fake you can get your money back..

[@DaniPaunov]

I wonder if you said what the price is, so you can also tell people what date it is

[@DaNiKzz]

Did you use a platinum electrode to electroplate that?

[@alish5417]

The oxide how they put these oxides on the mesh ,its either sorayed with heat resistant paint likr we spray cars just like that ,

[@DaShcati]

Was the cathode just a titanium strip?

[@old-bitprogaming4857]

Use silver cables they aren't that expensive (about 1 dollar per 2 grams) and it has one of the best if not the best electrical conductivity at room temp

[@applegwava]

OLD-BIT ProGaming not very unreactive,in many experiments,it will not survive

[@applegwava]

OLD-BIT ProGaming not very unreactive,in many experiments,it will not survive

[@old-bitprogaming4857]

Alvis Gwa yes that's the downside

[@pragadeeshsv6596]

Pls make video diy dry electrode for EEG experiment

[@Otmjv]

Destroying Canadian currency is a federal crime imma call Justin Trudeau on your ass

[@davelowe1977]

That's not much of a threat - Trudeau is a pussy.

[@ThatBiohazardGuy]

Magnet*

[@iwanadiefast]

nilered is mad

[@ThatBiohazardGuy]

?

[@thatpersonyouknow3747]

burnt them ther canardians

[@jeanpierre4299]

hello, you are the best. thank for your video. how extract platinum from rock platinum nugget by electrolyte?

[@janedesign5758]

NurdRage, Please tell , What kind of material is that diagonal strip what is your negative terminal? Platinum?

[@ThePeterDislikeShow]

Why did you make your fake platinum electrode video private?

[@bludeat7398]

but, where I get those titanium strips??

[@laboratoryofliptakov8157]

Always First April have Titanium hooks in Butchers. Hooking on it a big pieces of meat. Inert Hooks, called it. You put question in Butchers. And will you see what happens.

[@mmotitaniumanode8824]

We are a titanium manufacturer from China, we can provide any titanium products you need, this is our website, www.bjhighstar.com, please refer to it. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us, WhatsApp: [phone], email: [e-mail]

[@twocvbloke]

What if I only have a pork sausage instead of Platinum?

[@vornamenachname5267]

Works too.

[@nostalgistl0058]

I made a PbO2 electrode.I use it for 9 month

[@toughbuilding9384]

Was it made from Pleb Oxide

[@nostalgistl0058]

No,PbNO3,NaF,Mn(NO3)2,and HNO3.I electroplat it.

[@computercat8694]

(Also known as lead dioxide.)

[@PlasmaHH]

Fun thing is that the current exchange rate for platinum is lower than that of gold...

[@bormisha]

Is it possible to turn platinum of this coin into a salt and then platinize your titanium bars?

[@doesitcrush2093]

Very interesting

[@arminsoleimani2047]

Great videos! a question though. is there any way to make perchlorates by electrolysis of NaCl using carbon/graphite electrodes?

[@rich1051414]

1000 CAD =~ $1.50?

[@sunandabhanot6600]

what is optical isomer

[@old-bitprogaming4857]

Ohh 4/1 now I get the sold my soul

[@shivpalpatine]

Whats the point of the titanium? Doesnt platnium conduct electricity on its own? No need for titanium? Idk much about chemistry b/c im Mech.E but this channel is still interesting =O

[@RGplayer101]

platinum is really expensive

[@shivpalpatine]

Maybe i worded the question badly. He mounted the platinum onto the titanium. Why did he mount it onto titanium and not another metal such as copper, stainless steel, etc.

[@lobby4497]

Are you part of a larger Corporation because Alpha Easer is a corporate chemical supply company. Also do you do your experiments at home or in a proper lab environment?

[@Mrdudeman]

P.s It's "Alfa Aesar". Just letting you know.

[@goodfeller2]

He gets all his funding through patreon, donations, and ad revenue. He used to work in a well established lab but now he works in a lab he set up. Its definatly not a home lab but i wouldnt call it an "unproper lab environment" either.

[@ltsgobrando]

Sweet. I got a platinum ring I wanted to use in just such a manner, I was worried whatever I mounted it with would degrade first. Nice to know I'm good. However it does have some gold plating, any chance electrolysis will interfere with that? Its an heirloom worth more than the combined value of every vehicle I've owned (all used and well used mind you), irreplaceable doesn't begin to describe it so any damage is outta the question. Thoughts?

[@infernalsorcery7923]

Do not use it as an electrode lmao

[@ltsgobrando]

@@infernalsorcery7923 waaaaaaaaay too late for that dude! I found out the great big "diamond" was a fake. I popped it out and set it to the side so it can be recounted at a later date. The ring is still in excellent condition

[@infernalsorcery7923]

@@ltsgobrando if it has gold on it, prolonged exposure to electrolytic reactions will cause damage and 'wear' exclusively to the Golde.

[@ltsgobrando]

@@infernalsorcery7923 Originally that was my concern too, but ultimately the gold plating was a blessing in disguise! The biggest thing for me was making sure the ring was safe, and why I ultimately wound up with such a perfect design. Once the great big (fake) stone was out I noticed that only the little arms were gold plated. I wound the ends of a really thin stranded copper wire around the gold arms, so they would act as electrodes for the ring. I then siliconed the hell out of that connection. The real trick was having the copper wire have a zinc lead on the other end. Why re invente the wheel when redox reactions have been known about for years. I just gotta make sure to replace the plug when it crumbles instead of bypassing it. Thanks for the concern man!

[@infernalsorcery7923]

@Jordan Richards Well, that's good news then, sounds like a cheeky but effective bypass to my concerns as well anyhow. Much luck

[@vadimturov7808]

that coin is a life lon source of platinum anodes if you use it for sputtering

[@Dr.Iggulden_ND]

Seems your sponsor has started sponsoring a few science channels lately. Did they approach you? Or you them?

[@kittyliu226]

Would you like some titanium based material or Pt coated titanium anodes from us, thanks?

[@davidjones6661]

Necroposting an missing the point of a good joke, but.... given you talked about a thin layer of platinum on the hard drive platters on your acid destruction video, could you actually use those as a very inexpensive amateur platinum electrode?

[@BOROZ28]

Hei do you have trusted sellers on Ebay, Alibaba from china at a good price?

[@ThePeterDislikeShow]

So you never answered, can you use gold for making potassium chlorate?

[@cybeermancom1]

only a virgin's soul without sins is worth much

[@elyesmehri3067]

Hello i have platinated silver jewerelly

[@vadimturov7808]

aren't anodes sputter coated?

[@mmotitaniumanode8824]

We are a titanium manufacturer from China, we can provide any titanium products you need, this is our website, www.bjhighstar.com, please refer to it. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us, WhatsApp: [phone], email: [e-mail]

[@nathandean1687]

about time you make one.

[@alish5417]

But you neef to roast the meshea so the oxide fuse with the mesh ,,the mesh doesnt have to be titanium ,steel is the best ,if thats true ,and thats true beive me

[@retak4110]

Happy April Fools!!!

[@moechano]

1:18 Deez nuts

[@papaversomniferum5247]

Platinum bar would work lol, if you had an ounce of platinum why not switch it for a bar and cut it into strips, the ounce bar has atleast 5mm depth similar to a coin.

[@iced_coffeelvr1069]

This was a joke...right? I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE!

[@drasmu]

how can i electroplate iridium ??? thanks

[@mmotitaniumanode8824]

We are a titanium manufacturer from China, we can provide any titanium products you need, this is our website, www.bjhighstar.com, please refer to it. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us, WhatsApp: [phone], email: [e-mail]

[@opaldragon75]

LOL!!! not bad for Oct 31th video!!!!! try again next year!

[@scrottiemcboogerbal1]

are you Canadian? hail from the frozen north

[@thextrmntr]

Interesting: Both @NurdRage and @NileRed now sponsored by The Great Courses Plus.

[@rudysalazar1986]

dope

[@davegeorge7094]

Google Surepure Metals for platinum wire, very good prices on wire. Methyl alc. + PL+ O2 = fire.

[@charlidog2]

Holy fuck, $1000. I use electrolysis all the time to get rust off stuff. My anodes definitely get eaten up. I wonder how this would fare.

[@ブィブィでーす]

did he just say he sold his soul?

[@user-be4yc2vr5c]

God I love my science channels so much. Can anyone back up all of youtube science and grow stuffs etc onto a big harddrive for me plz? Also. Can we get the price down at all of this? lol

[@mwbgaming28]

nice try nurdrage i see when this was uploaded

[@yuriyfazylov5506]

What?

[@Tactix_se]

April fools! or not...?

[@social3ngin33rin]

WOW!!!!!

[@PeterStewart]

Wait. so april fools or no?!!

[@shadowphyre4746]

No, the only problem is that it's expensive as shit, but will probably last for like 25 years because of how much platinum it has.

[@Palmit_]

instructions unclear. i somehow got a windows update and am now stuck in a chlorate~update paradox.