Don't forget our boy Forrix. He was the only survivor of the lions gate infiltration during the heresy and he later killed a warhound titan in hand to hand combat. ...And he did it all without the boons of chaos.
@HazedForDays Жыл бұрын
iron within iron without
@warsmitholgir5440 Жыл бұрын
I was still very sadden to see him go. I'd fully accept him coming back one way or the other
@whateyatalkinabout4972 Жыл бұрын
He wasn’t the only survivor, there were multiple survivors of that assault. He did lead it, but he wasn’t the only one to make it out
@crimsonknight7011 Жыл бұрын
Typhus must be a Linkin Park fan. “Crawling in my skin, these wounds will not heal”
@triples2745 Жыл бұрын
Kharn should be above Abaddon, he managed to kill Celestine when Abbadon couldn’t even when she was at her most weakest on Cadia.
@LichLordKrull Жыл бұрын
"Couldn't" isn't the right word, he trashed her and tried to finish her multiple times, but she kept getting saved. Once by Greyfax launching a psychic attack to stop his killing blow, and again by hordes of Guardsmen sent forth by Creed who literally just ran into his sword to protect her.
@triples2745 Жыл бұрын
@@LichLordKrull Creed was another moment of Abaddon's weakness, he likes to stop fighting to monologue causing Celestine to mortally wound him, Kharn has no such weakness and just attacks.
@MYSOULOFDOOM Жыл бұрын
Not in order.....
@richardcochrun3869 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he definitely said before he started these are not in any kind of order because to do so would be impossible.
@Sargeras147 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, do you really need a video to tell you that kharn is above everyone ? Hes my true emperor. I've done my homework and read almost every books he is in. I highly recommend you to do the same, most of them are soooo cool.
@bryananderson1147 Жыл бұрын
Not sure Lucius belongs here. With all the opponents trapped in his armor, he has lost quite a few times.
@BruteDion Жыл бұрын
Was gonna say this. His thing is losing and coming back. He's a character who gets by on his hack literally.
@jn6305 Жыл бұрын
@@BruteDionit doesn’t mean he isn’t insanely good. His wiki page isn’t actually correct anymore. Lucious’ first real loss and death was to a Ravenguard named Sharrowkyn. Prior to that, he had barely ever found a foe that he couldn’t easily crush. It stands to reason that he’s begun enjoying the loss and subsequent resurrection as much as winning
@robertemerson1087 Жыл бұрын
For real the man wins by losing.
@robertemerson1087 Жыл бұрын
@@jn6305True there’s a good chance he just enjoys knowing those peoples souls are suffering eternally in his armor so he lets them win.
@DetroitTyler Жыл бұрын
To me it's Kharn or Ahriman hands down, each were incredibly powerful individuals before any chaos gifts, Kharn was a captain and elevated to Angrons 2nd not for his Saavy but essentially as a battle bud, which has to put him among the best melee combatants of the Horus Heresy era that isn't a primarch then you add 10,000 years experience and 1 million + skulls, and a chaos god that would most likely prevent an opponent from obliterating him with psyker powers. Which means 1 on 1 in a duel he most likely comes out on top, for those who'd say Abbadon, Khorne might actually remove power from Abaddon if that was a showdown, and grant that to Kharn, potentially closing the gap on power levels and making it a 50/50 type duel.
@saltedllama2759Ай бұрын
The +10,000 years thing doesn't matter much. A Space Marine is pretty much pre-programmed with all of the physical and mental skills they need, and while experience is valuable in further honing them, Space Marines learn at a rate that's exponential. By the time they hit 1-2 centuries of service, they don't really get much better. There is a bigger difference from year 1 to year 10, than from year 100 to year 10,000. Plus, Kharn has forsaken any concept of learning, tactics, strategy, or honing of skills and just lets the Warp and the Nails run through him. Khorne wouldn't be able to "remove power from Abaddon." That isn't how Abaddon is powered. He hasn't embraced the gods AT ALL. In short, he has found a way to tap into the Warp without becoming their puppet, and that is something less than a handful of beings in the galaxy can do. He despises the Chaos gods, and wholly rejects the idea of demonhood; they know this, yet they keep supporting him as their champion. He knows that an inability to be in control means the same fate his father suffered. He still has his mind and free will, unlike most champions of Chaos. Khorne would absolutely not care if Kharn were killed because he doesn't care about any of his own champions, so long as the blood flows. Plus, he would just torture Kharn's soul for a while, mock him, then stitch him back together and throw him back into the galaxy to fight more. With Abaddon, all of the gods are in a binding pact with each other when it comes to their chosen Warmaster. They need Abaddon more than he needs them, or else they have no foothold in the mortal realm. In fact, even the Primarchs - the greatest champions of the gods - have been ordered to grant command to Abaddon when they are in the material realm. Nurgle didn't "strip power from Abaddon" when Mortarion disobeyed and attacked Ultramar, he punished Mortarion for not following Abaddon's crusade. Mortarion has been sentenced to the Garden ever since for an undetermined amount of time. Abaddon and Archaon parallel one another in many respects like this. The Chaos gods keep trying to pull them and sway them as they all have their own desires, and then try to have them executed when they won't yield. It keeps failing, yet they continue to offer them power. Kharn has become a slave to Khorne, so win or lose, Khorne will just toss him back into the fray at some point. Ultimately, he may be doomed to suffer some glorious demise, but in 1-on-1 pitched fights, Abaddon doesn't lose to any Astartes at this point. Loyalist or Traitor. It would take a Primarch or high-level Custodian to defeat him.
@Marc9010 Жыл бұрын
Drach'nyen the "Sword" of Abadon is really wicked. It isn't just a Daemon-Weapon, no it's a daemon which choose to serve Abadon in the form of a Sword.
@zeran147 Жыл бұрын
Do we know this for certain? All we know is that the emps reforged the demon into a sword and sent Ra scurrying away into the webway to hide it away. Next we know Abaddon has it after recovering the sword from a labyrinth. Granted there is a large portion of 40k books ive not read, ive not seen anything other then Abaddon recovered it, nothing about it serving him willingly.
@guardsmenedwin6213 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t really have a choice in the matter though. Sense Big-E sealed it into that form.
@LichLordKrull Жыл бұрын
@@guardsmenedwin6213 Depends which fluff you enjoy, that's a recent Horus Heresy retcon. Traditionally up until at least 7th it can take any form and appears as a sword Because that is how Abaddon wants it to be. Personally I'll take actual Chaos codex fluff over HH any day but that's just me.
@guardsmenedwin6213 Жыл бұрын
@@LichLordKrull I like the idea of Abaddon being so arrogant that he thinks a really good sword in his hands is more tactically sound than having one of the single most powerful, not just deamons, but individual beings in the universe, being able to wound the Emperor, as a unit in his army, or even running free causing chaos to the emperium. It shows how full of himself he is, showing why he hasn’t won against the emperium, even after 10 thousand years.
@PrinzAquatic Жыл бұрын
the drachnyen sword and horus' power claw is also the only 2 weapon that draw emperor's blood, the only 2 that survived till now iirc
@Hereforthelols Жыл бұрын
Top 10 chaos space marines are way more interesting Individually than 10 top astartes
@I-GARRO-I Жыл бұрын
Can you make the video of chaos titans, please. Also, I like the way you explain the details, nice content bro. Regards from Brazil
@MadHax-wt5tl Жыл бұрын
Oh that's so sweet, making grand pa Nurgel happy with the gift of a fist full of guts.
@issacdunham62579 ай бұрын
You are taking a lot of stuff out of context for this ranking and overall some really bad takes. I would do more recerch. Just regarding Abaddon : he has been confirmed to not be a clone of horus. The actual clone of Horus was not a primarch level threat; he wasn't wearing armor and he was missing Horus's soul which gives primarchs the vast amount of their power. Sigismund was obscenely old when he was killed, even for a space marine. Abaddon was also extremely close to loosing even with his God teir sword, superior armor, and massive age advantage.
@bmad13862 ай бұрын
He also was getting stalemated by a Kharn that has been worn down by his goons😂 Without the overwhelming backing of the 4, Abaddon would be butchered by either Kharn or Ahriman, those guys are un-fuck-with-able😂
@pampanamonick70762 ай бұрын
What ranking lmao, did you watch the video?
@DeusExMachina10001 Жыл бұрын
Sevatar is definitely the best fighter out of all these guys, especially if you take Chaos-blessings out of the equation.
@othmandawood6174 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely Lucius
@johndevs2755Ай бұрын
Ave dominus nox
@harpazo4173 Жыл бұрын
Good video but why am I not seeing Alexius Jonus on this list?
@bobbobertbobberton1073 Жыл бұрын
Kharn is the strongest in melee, he always had a better WS back in the day, GW might want to supercharge Abaddon now but in reality Kharn would kick his ass.
@dubstepXpower Жыл бұрын
I wish kharn would behead Abaddon or Magnus would vapourise him. The setting is becoming way too predictable with bs writing and plot armour. 40k needs more grim dark again.
@Lustik1990 Жыл бұрын
what about Luthor...he basicly hold his own against Lion
@tatepalmer1997 Жыл бұрын
Video idea all primarch special abilities and powers
@cesarerinaldi67507 ай бұрын
🟢💚 Have you ever seen the Primaris Sons of Horus? Imagine: if Horus Lupercal and Legion (except Abaddon and followers of course) had remained Loyalists (thus perhaps helping by defending Terra), could Alpharius have been the new leader of the rebellion (still embracing Slaanesh), of the fact that he is actually the first one found? The Alpharius Heresy, how does it sound? Maybe even Abaddon himself (the Abaddon Heresy)!
@cesarerinaldi67507 ай бұрын
🟢 I'm still confused as to which sounds better: the Alpharius Heresy (embracing Slaanesh, the six-headed serpentine Hydra) or the Abaddon Heresy (embracing Nurgle, the Lord of Locusts)? Alpharius because he is truly the first to be found and harbors deep resentment towards the Emperor just like Horus (with the Laer Blade that makes him descend into excess together with his Legion), Abaddon because he is the architect (with the Anathame Blade that makes him descend into corruption together with his followers). ⚫
@johnnyscifi Жыл бұрын
Ps: daemon-princes don't count. Even if they're former Astartes. That's just like including daemon-primarchs...
@scramble7673 Жыл бұрын
Kharne is the strongest blood warrior.
@davidchildress4378 Жыл бұрын
Knowing that Typhus solos literal planets really makes it hard to put power scales on space Marines lmao
@logan.-.2125 Жыл бұрын
I feel like when you’re the walking embodiment of space aids it’s kind of hard not to solo an entire planet. Buddy doesn’t even have to fight anybody they just fall over dead if they’re within 3 square miles of him.
@smittywerbenjaggermanjense1485 Жыл бұрын
9:55 lmao
@vitaliyred622 Жыл бұрын
Knowing that Abbadon has a blade or the first murder, if he kills anyone of these, no god would be able to ressurect them probably ( Kharn and Lucius are literally cheaters ). Typhos would be utterly disgusting to fight, but I still think Abbadon would win, if he would put on a helmet.
@arvintobАй бұрын
Wasn't Abaddon saved by Plot Armor when Sigismund impaled him?
@jamesford9292 Жыл бұрын
Delvarus and Argel Tal should be here
@ruffymon Жыл бұрын
And Sevatar
@jamesford9292 Жыл бұрын
@@ruffymon 100%
@ruffymon Жыл бұрын
@@jamesford9292 Actually Sevatar is in the Video, my Bad
@johnnyscifi Жыл бұрын
Huron's new claw is his old claw...or, what was left of it. After he got a melta to half of his body, at the end of the Badab war
@shadowgod1797 Жыл бұрын
tbh ahriman is the strongest man's knowledge and power rivals the the greatest primarchs he is definitely become dark emperor in 50k
@dubstepXpower Жыл бұрын
Ahriman could vapourise the rest.
@nella9115 Жыл бұрын
@@dubstepXpowerwell, doing that to kharn wouldnt exactly be straight forward, khorne would see that as dishonourable and not allow it
@DewayneMcClure-bm2pj Жыл бұрын
@dubstepXpower Kharn has the unique Blessing of the Blood God, making him invulnerable to psychic powers.
@abagofwater10764 ай бұрын
I'd bet on Abbadon. None are so valued by the Pantheon as he's the nexus of the fate of the Imperium, mankind, the entire galaxy. So much depends on him... and as he pledges himself chaos undivided he basically has the pantheon competing with each other to lend him power and gain influence over him and his decisions. I think Iskandar Khayon at the forefront of this list. I don't think most of these champions could touch him, his knowledge of the warp and mastery of chaos sorcery are on another level.
@Madcatz-iv9yt3 ай бұрын
Abaddon: In the name of the Undivided, Lucius i sentence you to die! Lucius: =) Abaddon: You (pointed at CSM01), kill him! CSM01: Eh.........no. {Looking at CSM02) You there, off his head. CSM02: Hell no, (looking at a Bloodthirster) Big guy! CLeave him in half. Bloodthirster: Thats it, i am dead.
@rhetoric5173 Жыл бұрын
Uhh Abaddon killed the Horus clone, he isn’t the clone
@somguy5035 Жыл бұрын
He mentioned killing the clone
@Bag524 Жыл бұрын
Prime sigismund can defeat abbadon 1 vs1 ?
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@ioriyagami7795Ай бұрын
@@ravanpee1325 Yes when he is young.
@theezekarion164 Жыл бұрын
Depends on what ur talking about? Solo one on one Abaddon isn't that great But bringing all chaos space marines together and permanently destroy stuff Yeah he's the one. Kharn also not the best duelist but murder Machine he is and can lead his men to victory or kill them in the process. But Lucia's is the best duelist but only looses so they can experience the change
@kelakogreenaddict1888 Жыл бұрын
Ahriman just turns them all into bubbles or puts them in a black hole or some shit
@n1kname423 Жыл бұрын
Sevatar must be the №2 or even №1, cause only Sevatar was fought in equal with Sigismund! Abaddon without his sword and chaotic blessings is nothing
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
No, just because he cheated in their duell
@zfoxcrafter23 күн бұрын
@@ravanpee1325in a real fight their wouldbe no rules. Sevatar is easily one of the strongest Space marines in terms of fighting, but he is especially ruthless
@falsebeliever8079 Жыл бұрын
Who are the strongest loyalist psychers in the current day imperium?
@ravanpee1325 Жыл бұрын
Mephiston
@dreinakkar Жыл бұрын
3:00 Broh “held agains kharn” xD he was at that time bolstred by all 4 gods and he cryed whole fight and bloodthister have to be sended by Khorne to stop Kharn relentlesly beating failbadddon. Trully that fight corrected me who Abbadon truly is. Aldo sigismunds death should be on kharns hands at least hope that he kill Erebus.
@dubstepXpower Жыл бұрын
stupid writing. Khorne would be happy for kharne to slaughter weak pathetic abbadon.
@firefox396Ай бұрын
so we just forgetting about volk?
@robdeskrd Жыл бұрын
Kharn, champion of khorne or Ahraman
@benjaminsansom1448 Жыл бұрын
Zhufor the impaler should be here
@slayerone7 Жыл бұрын
Let them fight to prove the strongest one. It's all part of the Emperor's plan
@DB-kf4zd Жыл бұрын
Lucius, obviously, u can t kill him without being possessed by him.. u can only chose if die or or kill him and became Lucius, he s technically invincible, he s eternal.
@maxjaz09 Жыл бұрын
only if you take pride or some sort of accomplishment in defeating lucius
@nella9115 Жыл бұрын
Again with this, another patron god is not going to allow its champion to simply be possessed by lucius, especially seeing as the rest could overpower slaanesh
@abagofwater10764 ай бұрын
Khayon would imprison him somewhere he can't return from and leave him... chaos sorcery and knowledge of the warp is just too powerful.
@raulmarcalevangelista3052 ай бұрын
Talos where ????? ;-;
@catalyst4448 Жыл бұрын
It’s HURON BLACKHEART
@highdragonslayer2741 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else agree Magnus is the weakest demon Primarch being a incomplete being before his transformation into a demon prince still powerful but a shadow of his former self which as a normal Primarch would bring his demon form to his knees
@highdragonslayer2741 Жыл бұрын
@louisnall3102 he has not shown any power after his transformation into demon prince just that Corvus is a stronger non alined demon or some warp monster does not prove lorgar is weak just that he is weaker than Corvus who takes out chaos marines like they are guardsmen which is fare to have him trembling considering chaos space marines are far stronger than any non named space marine not to mention those chaos marine were named showing strength and significance done stealthy like the raven guard under disrupting energy fields of some kind don't remember Magnus is shattered a shell of his former self just because lorgar has not shown much does not mean he is weak
@kelakogreenaddict1888 Жыл бұрын
I’m remembering this to cope for magnus’ losses as a ksons fan
@shamrockshnake1366 Жыл бұрын
@louisnall3102round 1 is hard to say, both were exceptional fighters. Round 2 goes in favor of the dark angels by a lot.
@nathanwilcut3360 Жыл бұрын
@louisnall3102round 1 is a coin toss. Round 2...... 1st legion has men of iron. He wouldn't even need his legion
@slybootsstan18098 ай бұрын
This list makes no sense. Why is Fabius Bile on a list of the "strongest chaos space marines". In a fight, everyone else here (and many others besides) will absolutely slaughter him. Now, if this was a list of the "smartest chaos space marines", he should most definitely take the top spot. He is not a fighter, he is a mad scientist.
@aksel8228 Жыл бұрын
Hello
@thomasmurphy3761 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry man kharn is easily a top 5.
@kelakogreenaddict1888 Жыл бұрын
There was no order bro
@thomasmurphy3761 Жыл бұрын
@@kelakogreenaddict1888 reall? Huh must of missed that guess I'm a bit of a dumb ass.
@kennethquinnies6023 Жыл бұрын
Mephiston could handle him easily
@ruffymon Жыл бұрын
Kharn would end Lucius
@Ivan_Liverpool Жыл бұрын
Вообще-то, это Натаниэль Гарро чуть не убил Аббадона, которого спасла только телепортация из под, уже падающего на него, меча Гарро )) Учите лор, или прочитайте Сатурнин )) Насчет Люция...Если бы автор читал Ангел Экстерминатус, то знал бы, что первым, кто убил Люция, был Никона Шарроукин из Гвардии Ворона
@Victoriabay8 Жыл бұрын
Talk yo talk my man 🤌
@vitaliyred622 Жыл бұрын
Learn your lore, Abbadon was literally fighting 1 vs 3 and got stuck under a dead enemy, in a duel 1 vs 1 abbadon won but he was in terminator armor against a normal armor.
@Ivan_Liverpool Жыл бұрын
@@vitaliyred622 Да что вы говорите )) Абаддон прибыл во главе своих. Элиты Лунных Волков, извиняюсь, Сынов Хорусв. Юстаэринских терминаторов. А их покрошили обыкновенные марины. Аббатогда был никто. Если бы он попался Сигизмунду, то не было бы сейчас Вармастера Хаоса. Сигизмунд его бы в землю втоптал, как и Кхарна. Да и Эндрид Хаар чуть не убил его голыми руками. Это сейчас Абба, острие Хаоса, а тогда он был так себе.
@erikjonson-qy9ky2 ай бұрын
Maybe not Araman a Arman 😂Khan😂Abdul 😂
@nicholaswolfwood32 Жыл бұрын
Top 10 strongest chaos space marines.......without the power armour that the god emperor give them, they're just mere mortal.....