Nvidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB vs 4070 Ti, 7900 XT & more!

Today Nvidia is launching the somewhat ridiculously-named RTX 4070 Ti Super. It offers a 10% boost in CUDA cores and a third more VRAM than the RTX 4070 Ti - yet it hits the market at the same price. Is this one of the best 40-series GPUs yet? Read more in the written article here: bit.ly/3SueOZ9
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00:00 Intro
00:52 Spec recap and test setup
02:19 MSI BIOS situation!
05:52 Alan Wake 2
06:21 Assassin’s Creed Mirage
07:00 Cyberpunk 2077
07:36 Forza Horizon 5
08:04 The Last of Us Part 1
08:51 A Plague Tale: Requiem
09:23 Ratchet and Clank
10:00 Red Dead Redemption 2
10:29 Resident Evil 4
11:02 Returnal
11:37 Starfield
12:12 Total War: Pharaoh
13:03 Performance summary - 12 game average
13:59 Cost per frame analysis
15:06 RT: Alan Wake 2
15:59 RT: Avatar Frontiers of Pandora
16:18 RT: Cyberpunk 2077
16:43 RT: F1 23
16:59 RT: Hitman 3
17:15 RT: Ratchet and Clank
17:57 RT: Returnal
18:14 RT: Shadow of the Tomb Raider
18:34 RT performance summary - 8 game average
19:23 MSI Ventus 3X design
20:41 Clock speed, thermals, acoustics
21:37 Power and efficiency
22:52 Overclocking
23:33 Closing thoughts
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[@KitGuruTech]

UPDATE 25th Jan 19:00 GM,T: we've now re-tested the Ventus 3X using the latest BIOS, looking at differences to FPS, power draw and clock speeds. Read it here: www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/msis-new-rtx-4070-ti-super-bios-tested-does-it-make-a-difference/

[@Sirsantos]

I was deciding between the 4070ti super or the 4080super and after all these reviews, definitely going for the 7900xt.

[@KrazzeeKane]

If you don't plan to use any ray tracing or upscaling then it is a solid choice! In pure rasterization it ain't too shabby indeed. Me personally, I didn't buy a $700+ gpu in order to NOT use the greatest new graphics tech and highest settings, I *want* to be able to use Ray Tracing + Ultra for everything at 1440p for this price point--so Nvidia was the clear winner for me. Though tbf, I bought an rtx 4080 for $950 I would only ever get AMD below the $500 price point, anything above that and DlSS and far better ray tracing results are just too good to be ignored

[@phobos2077_]

@@KrazzeeKane Exactly. You pay for what you get, GPU is not all about rasterization these days.

[@jewelbell5]

@@phobos2077_ Software advantages is fleeting though, and not worth the extra money.

[@SuperHardcoreTroller]

Not to mention nvidia broadcast which offers the best noise cancelling software and nvenc for streaming.

[@telepathicschmeatrod3554]

i personally think raytracing is an infant technology that brings more problems to the table than benefits. wish i figured that out before i bought the card i did.@@KrazzeeKane

[@amdforlife5591]

Well done nvidia, you finally released the 4070ti the way it should have been a year ago. Its a SUPER cash in.

[@ThunderboltandLightning-jx4mu]

said with no hint of bias lol

[@ElJewPacabrah]

@@ThunderboltandLightning-jx4muim nvidia but its true. When normal ti starts selling slow drop the auper and they come flooding. Its a great card no doubt. Nvidia is smart from a business prespective and thats not always the best for consumers. Consumer dont realy have a choice if they want ray trace and 16gb vram.

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

thorough detailed and spot on review as always dominic, well done !

[@lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp]

great review dominic, thats a cracking card from MSI tbf - but what a BIOS mess up

[@ThunderboltandLightning-jx4mu]

Hey Dominic thanks for all your work, bought a few GPUs based on your reviews, always honest - I appreciate that. I know a lot of people dont say it, but thanks!

[@KitGuruTech]

thanks!

[@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz]

Its the card we all expected really. good detail dominic, these must take some time to create.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Definitely looking forward to more brands getting benchmarked, I'll probably end up getting this GPU and need to see which models will have higher power limit for overclocking.

[@KitGuruTech]

Update January 23rd 11:49 GMT (2 hours before launch): We have just received a *second* BIOS update, along with an official statement from MSI, copied here verbatim. "MSI discovered there were further areas where the performance of the GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER VENTUS 3X graphics cards could be improved. We have introduced a new BIOS designed to elevate the overall performance of the graphics card to be in line with our expectations. We encourage you to update your sample with the attached BIOS. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused and express our gratitude for your understanding and support." Needless to say it is a bit late to be testing a second update BIOS will just two hours to go until launch. I will aim to revisit any differences made and be sure to publish our findings if possible.

[@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz]

I bet this hurts every time you read them

[@rufusmctavish1164]

oh dear, i guess you stocked up on plenty painkillers to get through all this

[@jere3651]

Do you think that game day driver support/firmware and game engine support is causing the 5% increase in FPS and that performance will jump up another 10 percent once driver kinks have been worked out? This should not be the case with a lot more Cuda/memory/memory bandwidth. This should come way closer to 4080 GPU. Thoughts?

[@Hafizul12]

So delete this review and re do it? Its not rocket science.

[@KitGuruTech]

@@jere3651 it's really hard to say, i'll be testing the new MSI BIOS over the next few days so we can see what changes it makes. on paper the 4070 Ti Super has 13% fewer CUDA cores than 4080 so I don't think it would come too close to it, but an extra 5% wouldn't hurt - but we will see...

[@dreschaffhausen5693]

Interesting the updated bios just means more clock speed under load... Wonder whats going here?

[@ALLInOne-vq5em]

Consider this: forthcoming drivers, especially tailored for Alan Wake 2, are anticipated to yield a substantial increase in frames. This suggests that the 7900 XTX has the potential to match the Ray Tracing performance of the RTX 4070 Ti Super.

[@DildoFagginsNL]

😂

[@RafaelW8]

I just watched 4-5 reviews of the 4070 ti super, and kitGuru was the kindest of them all. Seems the other reviewers weren't excited about the 4070 ti super, which kinda makes me feel bad for wanting it lol.

[@rufusmctavish1164]

I think Dominic presented it quite well as he always does, trying to go into the review with an open mind rather than going into the review colored with an opinion. The card seems really the card nvidia should have released first time around with higher memory count etc. This shows in some of Dominics tests here I think later in the review, that memory can really make a difference. For people who have a 4070 ti they are likely going to be angry and pissed off, which appears to be the case reading the comments. I like it when a reviewer can try and keep the emotions out of the content and just focus on the facts, its a dying art now.

[@PSXMicha]

because there's absolutely nothing to be excited about.

[@telepop123]

Yeah this is the most positive review so far, the other ones seemed rather underwhelmed by the small increase in performance over the regular 4070 Ti.

[@haremofprocessors6954]

Two ways to look at it. you can just focus on the market and realise that Nvidia have released a card they should have done at the start. People will be annoyed , as is the case. People will be sorry they have a 4070 ti and cant shift it. and other people will just be bitter and angry (which is the default comment state on youtube). I think the 16gb of ram is a huge upgrade over 12gb as shown in the section of this video highlighting the benefits later. This is what most people are interested in - long term life, rather than a bit more clock speed. Its a solid release, but the tainted history of Nvidia price gouging really causes a lot of issues which really are not what these reviews should be about. A lot of channels focus on drama rather than the cold hard facts of a review. Thats my view anyway

[@rufusmctavish1164]

@@PSXMicha I dont think Dominic sounded excited at all. Just explained the benefits of the extra memory count in some games (which makes sense as that was the biggest issue with the last card - 12 GB isnt enough), and showed a lot of minor increases. Fact is if you were just about to buy the ordinary TI and this SUPER version is out at the same price it seems like a much better card, especially if you want more life out of it before changing again.

[@GroundGame.]

Are there any Liquid Cooled 4070Ti Super Versions this round?

[@Tintin.johansson]

No liquid cooler😢

[@veeclash4157]

why would you waste an expensive liquid cooler on a 70 class card? just get the 4080 super in a couple of weeks.

[@williammathies2998]

Thanks!

[@kijuanadams5650]

Not sure what all that talk nividia was saying about the ti super beating the 7900xt once and for all

[@graphite8842]

Haha I also saw some folks say that but I knew from the specs the 4070 ti super still won't be able to beat the RX 7900xt, because first, the core count is only 10% more than rtx 4070 ti, the clock speed is basically the same, and although it has a massive 40% increase in ROPs and 33% increase in cache because it uses the 4080 chip, it still won't be able to beat the 7900xt because I have also noticed the 4070 super had a bigger 20% core higher count and massive 33% increase in cache and less than 40% but still big rops count increase but it still is around 15% faster than the 4070 which is ofcourse less than the specs increase so i had this strong feeling that 4070 ti super with its just 10% increase in cores will only perform like 7 or 8% better than the 4070ti which is not enough to beat RX 7900xt. At certain points the 7900xt is extremely close to the 4080 in raster. And it also beats the 3090ti in like 90% of games tested i have seen on the internet because my broke self can't afford these cards for now. The RX is a strong card.

[@kijuanadams5650]

@@graphite8842 this is exactly what I was saying

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@graphite8842 That was never the intention, Nvidia targets RT and for that you'd never look at AMD. Just look how terribly even their flagship flopped when given a heavy load.

[@eyescreamsandwitch52]

God damn, that 6 fps difference

[@whocares0503]

I amd still using a 3080Ti while its better not really sure it's worth upgrading too...

[@KiLDELTA]

Just got the 4070ti Super and reason I got this is mainly for VR gaming, I would love to get AMD for the price but VR is not really working well with AMD.

[@MichaelW1980randoms]

There is one advantage you didn’t talk about on your video, that being the 256Bit Memory bus, as opposed to to a 192Bit Memory bus on lower models. This can result in notably better performance, depending on the use case. Granted, the differences might not be as much on the nose, as the amount of VRAM.

[@KitGuruTech]

That is mentioned several times, when I talk about the increased memory bandwidth 👍

[@AndreiHristow]

Worryingly 7900xt leads on many benches I've never used AMD, is it worth it?

[@bobsmithson8592]

Depends if you don’t care about dlss or raytracing.

[@veeclash4157]

7900XT is faster for raster games which is most of the games out there. Nvidia 4070 Ti Super only wins in heavy ray tracing games.

[@AndreiHristow]

@@veeclash4157 MSI Radeon RX 7900 XT 20GB GAMING TRIO CLASSIC for example ?

[@AndreiHristow]

@@Aluminium-Can Do you recommend this switch from Nvidia to AMD? I have never used AMD, not even as a processor

[@mattvmani]

It’s also worth stating, if you prefer or don’t mind using DLSS and your games support it, you then exceed the performance of the 7900xt with a $100 cost savings. Again that’s dependent on the games you play. Nvidia is typically better supported for things like VR and ray tracing performance really depends on the game as well. Cyberpunk with dlss on with or without frame generation will beat the 7900xt every day of the week. But if you turn off RT, it flips. Also depends on if you even care about the electricity difference. It’s not really enough to notice it on your bill if applicable. But the 4070 super is reasonably more efficient. That should not matter a whole lot as your ability to keep the card cool in your case is more important (not saying it runs hot, but heat’s gotta go somewhere).

[@scandalf1337]

its like graphics cards are stuck at 1080ti performance but now we pay +400 more for dlss

[@anitaremenarova6662]

That's clearly not what's happening, people are simply pushing into higher resolutions which requires massively more computing power. They're still heavily overpriced but modern graphics cards cost $150-300 just to be produced, this used to be the retail pricing back in the day.

[@pixelrefresh348]

Knowing that the SUPER series will be released the following year its almost worth waiting a whole year before buying the new gen of cards.

[@WittyGooseRacing]

Really ?

[@lucifersheadscarf6988]

I saw another post from a guy saying he hates buying the first release of a new card from Nvidia as he knows there will be a new model with more memory or faster clocks at the same price in less than a year. Its a good point. but its hard to stay on the last gen of hardware for many years if you are trying to move up. Maybe ebay is the wisest option for many

[@rufusmctavish1164]

You mean wait for the 5000 series? had trouble understanding your post, but im feeling a bit sick today!

[@bobsmithson8592]

??? I don’t understand this comment

[@_TrueDesire_]

local prices in Sweden is always fun to look at.. I got the 7900 GRE cheaper than 4070 😊 4070Ti Super is around the €1050-1100 area (4080 super listed at €1150 like wth?) RX 7900 XT €790-925 4070 Super around €690 4070 €650 7900 GRE €635 7800 XT €570

[@khelgarironfist3301]

4070ti super is also seems like at least 250 euro more expensive than 4070 super in Germany. That is some borked up shit no thanks. If it wasn't for PCVR, i'd also grab the GRE now.

[@DodgyTodger]

Nice for the gre, is there any Swedish websites that will post to Ireland? I'll possibly have the budget next year, unless someone gives me €10,000 because they love me loads or something.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@DodgyTodger Don't think anyone sells them for the isles. Although yeah, the 7900 GRE is excellent performance for the price. Over here in eastern europe they sell for 600€ and they match the 4070ti in rasterization for 200€ cheaper.

[@mawiyes]

var hittar du 7900xt för 790eur? 4070ti supers pris är scam här

[@MakinComputers]

@KitGuruTech, there is no way for you to tell if the 16gb of vram is the determining factor for the bump in raytracing performance in the 2 specific 4k bemchmarks. You don't have an identical card with just a 192bit memory bus, so you have no way of knowing if it's the bus, vram or combined bandwidth. Vram alone does not determine performance benefits at higher resolutions.

[@KitGuruTech]

Well, any of those 3 factors result in massive gains for the 4070 Ti Super which is the point I'm getting at, it's got more VRAM and higher memory bandwidth = a disproportionate amount of increased performance in certain scenarios. The reason I'm almost positive it's VRAM though is prior testing I've done with the 4060 Ti 8/16GB, and the 7600 XT which launches today

[@KrazzeeKane]

It seems you are not read up on computers enough to realize before commenting rudely and incorrectly about something you don't understand. Vram is not something that can be just increased on its own, or specifically tested. To increase or decrease vram requires a different mem bus width which means a different board. Without going too deep into it, each board can hold a certain amount of vram chips, which generally come in sizes of 1gb or 2gb vram. If you divide the memory interface by 32, that gives you the number of vram chips they can put in: ie 256 / 32 = 8, so on the 256 Ada 103 that the 4070 Ti Super and 4080 is on has 8 vram slots, with 2gb vram in each, totalling 16gb. The previous 4070s are 192mb, which can only hold 6 vram chips, and 6 x 2gb equals 12gb vram which is why the previouz 4070s only had that low amount. They are all three intrinsically linked, you simply CANNOT separate them in regards to performance, as you cannot just increase or decrease 1 or the other generally, though it can sometimes be directly compared if another card has a different configuration that ends up paralleling the other in some way that is statistically helpful to benchmarking. Vram and bus width and bandwidth only increase or decrease together except in specific circumstances due to how they are interlinked.

[@KitGuruTech]

​@@KrazzeeKane yes i know that, i didn't say anything to the contrary. if anything i was agreeing with you that the increased memory bandwidth also helps performance, which is what I said in the video. The point i was making is that we can be reasonably sure the 2 games i show in the video do use more VRAM because i tested them with the 4060 Ti, which has both 8GB and 16GB versions, both using the same 128-bit interface with the same memory bandwidth.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

It's a combination of all 3. In the cases where VRAM ran out massively you could see the drop off a cliff but in most cases the game simply loads lower quality textures or none automatically to still be playable.

[@marektomas9256]

Well, the issue with this MSI card is definitely frequency. 2700MHz?? Average frequency for other brands is 2850MHz.

[@roki977]

This is rtx 4070 in perfect world

[@harleylover9446]

I probably would buy this myself if I hadnt just bought a new gpu from ebay - well new to me.

[@KitGuruTech]

what did you go for?

[@lflyr6287]

Yeah sure....last minute bios....they saw that the RX 7800 XT 16GB is on paar and Nvidia panicked releasing a BIOS that OC-s their card with higher real world power consumption even a little more.

[@DodgyTodger]

Yeah, maybe this 4000 series, apart from the 4090, ain't all that. One wonders if it will be worth people's time waiting on 5000 series?

[@anitaremenarova6662]

​@@DodgyTodgerI mean, this is like the only good 40 series card if you don't want to be paying a pirate's treasure worth for the 4090.

[@edgarro2653]

Im kinda disappointed, cuz I wanted to get that 4070ti super today. I can return my psu 850 and get 1000w + pay 120$ more for 7900xtx. Should I?

[@KitGuruTech]

it depends on your priorities - the 7900 xtx is noticeably faster for rasterisation perf, but a bit slower on average for RT and doesn't have DLSS, while also drawing more power.

[@edgarro2653]

​@@KitGuruTech Damn... it really is a tough one. I want to play all new games in 2k resolution, while I also play Cods/fortnite. I don't really care about RT, but Im afraid it might go into "impossible to turn off" in newest games.

[@mattvmani]

@@edgarro2653well even for Avatar the 7900xt beats some the nvidia cards, including this one I think. It really depends on the level of raytracing used. Most new games will not be using full path tracing and will only be an option for games that offer dlss 2 and 3. At max settings with ray tracing and dlss you will do better than 100fps between quality and balanced for most titles. I’m using this card for 1440p and some games like Fortnite Lego is cool on a 4k screen. Runs perfectly fine, at 4k depending on the game you may need dlss to keep the memory usage down. But I play battlefield 2042 and without dlss I believe it was in the 90s. 110-120 with dlss on ultra. Dlss is mostly common place unless you’re playing unoptimized early access games. You should be happy saving the money with what you get for the performance of the 4070 super. Assuming you don’t have something like a 3080 or 3080ti or better.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

​@@edgarro2653Go 7900XTX then. The games that have it impossible to turn off will never use high RT loads because that would make them unplayable by AMD and Intel cards. For moderate RT the 7900XTX still performs decently well.

[@CrazO9111]

Bought a used 4070Ti non super for 550$ and im very satisfied! :-)

[@stevemoon2136]

If this had been the initial release (at $600) then yeah "great card". But after Nvidias totally unjustifiable price gouging since the release of the 40 series "acceptable" would definitely be more apt.

[@RainbowSunset-uq2hs]

Well its certainly better than the original card, the 12GB never sat well with me on first launch

[@iamahappybunny7640]

I agree with steve 100%. their pricing is just sheer greed - making record profits and more and more money every year and they just keep charging more and more.

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

I think the thing for some of us is that Nvidia sometimes release products and you know they are prepping a super, or better version in 10 months time, with either more memory, faster clocks at the same pricing. Most of us want the new gen, but sometimes buying it immediately hurts later. At least thats how I feel.

[@bobsmithson8592]

@@thetechdevil-jn1vo Unless you must have the latest tech on release, I think waiting for the SUPER versions is what a lot of people do, cause you know its going to be a better deal at the time. However how far do you take it? should you wait a bit longer until the next 5000 series and get these on deals? Do Nvidia even do deals? I wanted to move to this and its a fair bit better with 16gb making more sense for a few years, but the whole GPU sector right now just leaves a sour taste in my mouth. AMD need to get their finger out and start making prices drop by releasing better hardware.

[@RafaelW8]

@@bobsmithson8592 I agree with you, the current GPU market is just utterly bloody disgusting. I wanna update my 2070 super for the 4070 ti super, but like you said, leaves a sour taste in my mouth

[@C0bblers]

"Great card" 🤣🤣 Derp.

[@justindavis7600]

that extra 4GB of frame buffer really helps in some titles. Shows Nvidia really dropped the ball with the plain TI version didnt they.

[@alexandrutiberius5715]

when in 2k will you need more than 12gb vram?

[@canarychrome7012]

@@alexandrutiberius5715 The extra 4GB will be really useful at 1440p in many modern titles if you like cranking the IQ

[@alexandrutiberius5715]

@@canarychrome7012 since I have 4070 Ti it has not exceeded 11gb VRAM

[@alexandrutiberius5715]

@@canarychrome7012 in 4k even amd with 20gb is not that big a difference

[@lucifersheadscarf6988]

That’s good. I’ve seen 12gb being exceeded in some games at 1440p. Watch the video for a few titles. 12gb is fine now for a lot of games but it’s borderline. In a year it will be useless for aaa games.

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

Just a repost - the section on 12gb v 16gb was really useful - massive gains !

[@Einuhreins]

the 4070 Super and 7900xtx are the best price/performance cards where i live.

[@ahwai82]

where i am 4070 super is just like $25 more than 4070 so i bought a colorful model to upgrade from my 1070

[@rich2579]

In 2020: 3080 (10gb) MSRP was $699 In Jan. 2022: 3080 (12gb) MSRP was $799 In November 2022: 4080 (16gb) MSRP was $1,199 (money grab card / price per frame takes a shit) In 2024: 4070 ti super (16gb) MSRP is $799 Also in 2024: 4080 super (16gb) MSRP is $1,000 Imo: 4070 ti super is a solid card for the money that you can ACTUALLY buy and from retailers at MSRP

[@stuartthurstan]

Curiously, your conclusion is completely the opposite of most of the other review channels, Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed etc., who all describe the 5-10% performance bump over the original ti as being rather "meh".

[@KitGuruTech]

I agree 5-10% performance isn't a great bump over the original 4070 Ti, but I don't think that's what this card is about. It's all about the VRAM for me, and getting a third more at the same prices, plus the increased memory bandwidth is what I see as the real win here

[@russhodgson5209]

this 👆

[@michaelbodenhoff7871]

It's all about perspective disregarding the extra VRAM , is it much better than the regular RTX 4070 Ti , nope but if prices are about the same as the regular one, then you get ~5% performance for free , and then there the extra VRAM now , i've been wanting to upgrade my 2070 Super for the last 6 months , and budget wise the 4070 Ti was about my limit, i didn't want to buy the regular one as it only had 12GB. "But that's not an issue" i hear you say .... my 2070 Super is 4½ years old now, and the risk of 16gb being the limiting factor in 4 years is less than 12gb being the limiting factor in 4 years "then buy AMD" people say , yeah, but for that kind of money i want to be able to use Ray Tracing, and Nvidia is king there..... had 7900xt been on par with 4070 ti super, then sure, even though where i live the 7900xt is 50$ more expensive So the 4070 Ti Super makes good sense for me. Is it too little , too late, is it too expensive ? H*LL YEAH !! But it's not like there are other options , and my 2070 Super just isn't cutting it anymore :'(

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Yeah, you won't be disappointed. Over here the 7900XT is $40 less expensive but still not worth it due to poor RT performance. I'm in europe though so the 7900GRE is a good option for just 600 and has the same rasterization as a 4070ti. Now to decide if RT is worth $250.

[@michaelbodenhoff7871]

@@anitaremenarova6662 i had forgotten about GRE, maybe because there is almost no benchmarking videos, or that it's 20% slower than the 7900 xt Now i'm furiously searching for CP2077 numbers with raytracing :-D i'm also from Europe , btw :-)

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@michaelbodenhoff7871 I don't think that's true. From what I've seen it's like 10% slower but also much cheaper even if you go for a high-end model that can be decently overclocked to close that gap. Cyberpunk has very intense RT, I'd go with the 4070ti super there.

[@michaelbodenhoff7871]

@@anitaremenarova6662 i know that the GRE will perform much worse that 4070 ti super, but that is an unfair comparison , i could probably live with an 4070 Super , if it wasn't for the 12GB that scares me. But if i recall correctly, the full 7900XT gets thoroughly whooped by even the 4070 (non super) , so the GRE being a 7900XT Light would probably be even worse 🤔 so i'm back to the 4070 Ti Super, not that it really matters right now as the Asus 4070 Ti Super TUF i wanted has sold out 😂 Thanks for letting me bounce my thoughts off on you 😊

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@michaelbodenhoff7871 Well yeah, that was always the conclusion if RT heavy games caught your fancy. TUF is decent but I'd suggest some of the gigabyte models like eagle or gaming since they have a higher power limit if overclocking is your thing. No worries, any time 👍

[@out42c]

Nvidia was FORCED to give you more with the release of these Super cards because AMD gave you more at a fair price. Except, they're not giving you more because the Super cards still cost a lot more and they're still stingy with the RAM. Meanwhile, seeing how Nvidia operates, I've bought 6 AMD cards in the past 2 years. I bought a 7800XT a month ago and a 7900XT yesterday all thanks to Nvidia's greed. Oh, and I'm now epedemic proof! That's Nvidia!

[@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz]

6 cards in 2 years ? Why ! Have amd drivers improved ?

[@out42c]

@@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz Your question shows how clueless you are. AMD has had absolutely no issues with drivers since the 6000-series cards. I've bought 4 of those. Keep on listening to the lying Nvidia fanboys and get taken to the cleaners by Nvidia. BTW, Nvidia has had issues with drivers as well in times past. Had you done your homework you'd know that.

[@petercruz1993]

Trust me when I say, both companies would charge 10x more if they could

[@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz]

I just asked a question. You do realise these are just video cards right ? 😀 I always had AMD driver issues in the past. It’s why I moved to Nvidia.

[@bobsmithson8592]

You have bought 6 AMD cards in 2 years ? Seriously. ? Any jobs going in your place ?

[@JustKaiMusic]

Building a new pc. Going from a i5 4690k gtx 970 setup to an i7 13700k setup w/ 2k monitor ; was planning to buy a 4070 'TIE' as soon as I could thinking they might sell out but from all these reviews saying the 4070ti super isnt anything exciting im second guessing my purchase until I seen this video. Also might add that Im an nvidia guy so no amd for me.

[@KitGuruTech]

if you're only looking at Nvidia, realistically your choices are determined by your budget. happy with the 4070 super at $600? or the 4070 Ti Super will set you back another $200 but with 4GB more VRAM and slightly higher perf

[@mattvmani]

I was in this boat and actually have a 12th gen i7. I was set on the 4070 to super til I saw the benchmarks. Just ended up sticking with it. $200 is a big jump for less than 20% gains even at 4k. If you were going to go for 4k performance the 4080 super or 7900xtx, even 7900xt is a much better answer.

[@JustKaiMusic]

@@KitGuruTech I saved money in order to buy a 4070ti super knowing itd be close to $900. Ive bought the rest of my parts over the past couple months; h9 flow nzxt case, nzxt kraken 360mm AIO, i7 13700k, asrock pg lightning mobo, 32gb g.skill trident ddr5 ram, 1000w corsair power supply. Trying to do a mostly blacked out theme w slight rgb and the PC will be used to stream, video edit, game, and produce/record music. I am focusing on 2k quality so I thought the 4070ti super would be a good choice and would last me as long as I had the 970. I also single pc streamed on my 970 build for a while but its time to start fresh so Im just torn between what to get right now. Should I just save money and get a 3080ti? I really just have no clue since I have no experience w using a better build than mine for all that I do one a single pc.

[@JustKaiMusic]

@@mattvmani Focusing on 2k gaming/streaming and making music so im really not sure at the moment what route I should go with. All I know is my 970 will not be paired with my 13700k on the new build 💀🤣

[@fontbonnebenoit1130]

Perso,je pense que cette 4070ti super est plutôt la 4070 ti que nvidia aurait dû sortir dès le départ, sachant que la 7900xt est encore légèrement supérieure pour un prix moindre,vu la baisse de prix prévu sur celle-ci, je pense que nvidia risque de mal vendre cette 4070ti à moins qu ils decident de baisser son prix ...

[@CaptainScorpio24]

here is my 3 yr old 3070 FE 8gb true successor with double the vram 😊😊😊

[@geofftatesmate7748]

haha - very true ! never thought about that. Time for an upgrade now ?

[@KitGuruTech]

admittedly a good chunk more expensive but a very tasty upgrade for sure!

[@CaptainScorpio24]

@@KitGuruTech yess sadly its expensive. waiting since months for Super refresh. it will cost 80k+ in india which will b 1000 bucks including all tax and duties.

[@Apeeksiht]

​@@CaptainScorpio24Nvidia already released the founder's edition price during launch and it was 83k INR. highly doubt aib cards will be less than that

[@philipjfry628]

So its not quite a bargain given how expensive it actually is but its probably the best option for the 40x series.

[@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252]

Yeah its the best 4000 series card atm for price v performance, but its still serious cash really. What happened to the great 300 GPUS

[@stangamer1151]

4070 Super is definitely a better card in terms of price/performance ratio, than Ti Super.

[@KrazzeeKane]

​​@@stangamer1151if you want to replace your card in 3 years or less when you start hitting the 12gb vram wall, then sure lol. The rest of us will go with a much more solid 16gb vram and 256 mem bus width, and will be able to enjoy an easy 5 to 6 years of high performance 1440p, while you are turning down settings due to buying the wrong 4070. The 4070 Ti Super is the only 4070 series card to get imo. The cut down 192 mem bus and 12gb vram is just too significant of a gimp in current games, let alone 3 years from now.

[@stangamer1151]

@@KrazzeeKane In 3 years neither of these cards will be a good option for 1440p gaming, unless you are going to play at low settings and/or use agressive upscaling presets, in which case 12GB won't be a problem. Judging by the comparisons of Ti Super vs Ti, bandwidth is not a problem at 1440p, since Ti Super is just 5-7% faster. No doubt this is a merit of 10% more cores. And 12GB is not gimping Super or Ti in any way too, according to many Ti Super reviews. Only at 4K in few games, when even Ti Super is not able to offer playable framerates, you can see that Ti may run out of VRAM. The real difference between Ti and Ti Super is so small, that it is not even worth debating. But if you really want to have a card with 16GB of VRAM and 256 bit bus, purely for the sake of owning it, Ti Super is exactly what you need.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

​@@stangamer1151We're talking 4K capable cards.

[@davidkim6469]

in my opinion upgrade your pc from 5 to 7 years to see an upgrade

[@markus.schiefer]

Not a bad card, but a disappointing one. And definitely not the blow to the 7900xt that Nvidia wanted it to be. The whole lineup is still $100-$150 too expensive.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Enough of a blow here in europe where the 7900XT and 4070tiS aren't nearly as spaced out when it comes to cost. Nobody will get the 7900XT when this one is just $40 more expensive.

[@dariel299]

NOT IN SEA region as well, 7900xt is way more expensive then the 4070 tiS

[@russhodgson5209]

Not a bad card LMAO! Dude its a good card it's amazing how many people on you tube know how these cards should be priced after watching reviews, yadda yadda yadda 4070 ti super meh!

[@RS_Redbaron]

i wonder how you will feel after buying the 2080 and then a 4070 ti... and then you see this hahaha

[@canarychrome7012]

Great review dominic, looks like nvidia got it right, this time around !

[@robertmyers6488]

Should use total system draw as Nvidia off loads power draw to CPU more than AMD.

[@dungeondeezdragons4242]

So 7900xt is just better?

[@out42c]

So how come my 7800XT gets 101fps avg highest preset native in Returnal and his gets only 83 fps? I use the in game benchmark. Suspect he didn't I think all these content creators need to the in game benchmark when available so there is a standard for accuracy sake. Every creator picks their own spot in a game to test resulting in conjecture really. BTW, that 101fps is with a 5800X which makes these numbers even more appalling. I noted some of his other numbers are off as well. Other than that good review.

[@KitGuruTech]

yeah you can't really compare the numbers direct, different test systems, different areas in the game that are benchmarked, different drivers etc. the thing to focus on is relative performance

[@out42c]

@@KitGuruTech Your comment about relative performance is true. I think everyone should use the in game benchmark though to at least try and establish some sort of standard going forward. They don't include an in game benchmark for nothing. I think they too would like to see some sort of standard as the reason for including it.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

I'm guessing this was tested in the most demanding parts of the game. The proper way to test FPS.

[@JohnSmith-ro8hk]

Great card... Sure

[@jamesjessenden7838]

It's a bit of a silly name but if you want ridiculous naming conventions just have a browse of AMD's CPU lineup. I just get lost every time.

[@Itsameamario-ns3se]

Yeah I know, its hard to keep up. we have had 4070, 4070 super, 4070 ti, 4070 ti super, and coming soon 4080 and 4080 super. I mean we all know nvidia release new cards to tide the market over until the SUPER versions, which are really what they should have released in the first place on initial launch. I remember when the 250-300 price point was so good. now its like buying paperweights for any kind of semi serious gaming

[@inlovewithmycar7085]

Its hard to keep up. I still think AMD need to bring out a DUPER range of cards with more memory, just cause.

[@XMG3]

4070 ti super is not a great card. People expected it to perform closer to 4080 yet its just slightly better than 4070 ti. Also, MSI Ventus is the worst AIB model by far, they use the cheapest components with no cooling on some of the VRMs causing major hot spot issues. Only non-tech savvy people would even consider buying one

[@bobsmithson8592]

When’s yours arrive ? 😂

[@anitaremenarova6662]

This is the reference model since this card has no FE, not sure what that backhanded insult was about but you've played yourself. Also for someone supposedly "tech-savy" you should know all of these changes that don't look great out of the box finally allow overclocking high enough to comfortably get stock 4080 performance.

[@XMG3]

@@anitaremenarova6662 lol, right, good luck getting the 15% difference to 4080 from overclocking, I question if you ever own a GPU before

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@XMG3 The difference is like 10% and yeah, it's easily doable. Just gotta not be a dvmbass and buy a model locked at standard TDP. I question if you've ever owned anything other than a pre-built.

[@XMG3]

@@anitaremenarova6662 keep drinking the coolaid buddy, no one else thinks 4070 ti super is closer to 4080, if that were the case, I'd already bought one for my gaming rig. I do own a bunch of prebuilts in my office which I fitted 4060ti on the limited proprietary DELL 450W PSU. For home, I build my own.

[@romanroman3177]

I have an rtx 4070 ti and I am happy with the graphics card. As I can see, even if I had 16 gigabytes of memory on the card, I didn't lose anything. It's embarrassing that it has 10 fps more footage.😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@anitaremenarova6662]

You're about to be crying when it's going to become useless in 2yrs. 12GB is embarrassingly low even for 1440p.

[@romanroman3177]

@@anitaremenarova6662 I won't cry, I'm waiting for the new graphics cards from the 5000 series. And the rtx 4070 Ti will be enough for me at 1440p until then 😉✌️

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@romanroman3177 Someone likes to waste money, alright. Buying every generation is extremely foolish.

[@rufusmctavish1164]

cracking review of a very good card Dominic - loads of great testing as always. you deserve more attention for your reviews. Jay2cents hasnt a clue what he is doing half the time and gets millions of hits.

[@PSXMicha]

this is just stupid fanboy talk

[@JahonCross]

Quit fanboying its embarrassing

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Hey! Jay is cool but I agree the benchmarks could use some work.

[@RainbowSunset-uq2hs]

looks like a great card, and is basically what nvidia should have released first time around tbh.

[@tonep3168]

“Daft Name, Great card”? You have to be joking! You’re saying that a $200 price hike over the Super for 5-12% performance increase? What are you smoking?

[@lucifersheadscarf6988]

Same price here.

[@Itsameamario-ns3se]

Same price here as original ti. 😂

[@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz]

Another guy who didn’t see the 12gb frame buffer issues at 1440p and 4k 😴

[@fracturedlife1393]

4GB? And all those extra percentages? We haven't been this spoiled since the Ambassador got the Ferrero Rocher out. Boke.

[@bobsmithson8592]

It’s a bargain.

[@KrazzeeKane]

While they should have released this as the original 4070 to begin with (and $200 cheaper!), unfortunately we don't live in Should-Land, do we? We live in reality and as such we have to deal with the hand we are dealt. And in this case, Nvidia has at least finally released a 4070 that can last a user the next 5 to 6 years at high performance 1440p gaming, thanks to the improved 16gb vram and 256mb mem bus width. The gimped 12gb vram and 192mb mem bus width of the previous 4070's was simply too low and I knew I would be regretting that 12gb vram within 3 years or less. If you are someone who wants to be able to run high settings at 1440p and have no regrets until you upgrade again in the next 5 to 6 years, then imo the 4070 Ti Super is THE ONLY 4070 series card to consider. If I hadn't already bought a 4080 at $950 a few months ago (I refused to have less than 16gb vram in 2023 so I had to go 4080), the 4070 Ti Super is precisely the card I would have bought immediately if it had been out back then.

[@KitGuruTech]

well said.

[@0xBULLgogi]

Whats the point of the added 16gb and 256 bit bus bandwith if the performance is the same as the original Ti. Youre not getting increased performance. Just a little bit more of a headroom. Objectively speaking, the only two smart options are either spending down for the rtx 4070S or up for the rtx 4080S. At current dollar per frame, the Ti Super and 7900 XT are in no mans land.

[@ishiddddd4783]

@@0xBULLgogi Because performance wise the 4070ti was far from a bad gpu, it suffered from terrible pricing and gimped memory, on average the memory bus was the main reason at times the 3090ti got a massive lead when on average they are a few % from each other, moreso when it was already rivaling the previous gen flagship, remember that there are still people that haven't upgraded or even bought a gpu yet, not everyone is going from last gen to next gen, price still isn't ideal, but for the things we have in higher end sku's like the 4080 and XTX being 10-15% faster than the gpu's below them, but being 300-400usd more expensive, this gpu's make a lot of sense in the current market, price isn't good, but neither are the other options we have, and if that's the case, you are better off with the one that isn't AS bad. As of current pricing, you are crazy if you are getting an XTX or a 4080 for framerate differences that aren't noticeable if you don't have an fps counter enabled, moreso when the 7900XT or 4070TIsuper are 300usd cheaper.

[@awebuser5914]

@@ishiddddd4783 You're missing the point that when bandwidth _actually_ becomes an issue, the 4070Ti simply doesn't have the compute power to make any difference. This is obvious with the Ti Super struggling to get relevant framerates at 4k. Sure the Ti Super is "better", but it's still completely unplayable (this is the same with both 3090's), so what's the point? Same for VRAM, it will never be an issue without the raw power to utilize it. This has been a fact for over a decade now (VRAM added for essentially marketing purposes, like the RX 7600 16GB, which is a farce...) TL/DR: If you actually want to play at 4k, you need a 4080+, it's really that simple...

[@ishiddddd4783]

@@awebuser5914 but im not, and so are you missing the point, i addressed the 4070ti from the very get go, and of course it's not going to be a huge uplift either, it's still an sku below the 4080, and the 4080 is already not a huge uplift, comparing the raw power of a 7600xt and a 4070ti it's just not a good argument, they are leagues apart in performance, and the 4070ti super is more than capable of using them, and so are in 4k. If you use this video as a sample, this card it's more than capable of 4k 60fps ultra on average, let alone when you tweak settings. Unless you find going from 60fps to 71fps on average worth an extra 300usd, then go ahead, but anything past a 3080 performance with a decent amount of vram and bandwith will do the job for stable 4k gaming. TLDR; no, you don't need a 4080+ for 4k only

[@marsovac]

Flash it with a 4080 BIOS. They are the same dye. And there are tools that allow it now.

[@marek8591]

Thank you, Ti Super is not worth those big money for +5fps.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

They cost the same. Also nobody cares about the performance uplift the selling point is the VRAM increase.

[@stickyfingers9710]

This is how you create a review, ladies and gentlemen.

[@awebuser5914]

With the two "poor" 4k RT results on the 4070Ti, other than with a 4080+, the games are basically unplayable due to lack of compute power, so is there any real relevance in the "deficiency" of 12GB VRAM? How likely is it that 12GB will _ever_ be a *real* issue if the available compute power simply isn't adequate for what is likely the last 12GB cards in the upper-midrange?

[@phobos2077_]

Try playing MSFS with some addons or VR (or both, lol), then return and tell me how 12GB will never be a real issue.

[@awebuser5914]

@@phobos2077_ You're missing the point that if you don't have the raw compute power, VRAM is pretty much irrelevant. Also, VR is a joke, a 4GB VRAM card works fine in both Rift models.

[@phobos2077_]

@@awebuser5914 VRAM is very much relevant. What "both Rift models"? Rift is long dead. Are you living in 2016? Current VR headsets require resolutions around 6K (that's twice the number of pixels of 4K) to get the most out of the hardware, on top of streaming if you have wireless VR like Pico 4 or Quest 3. 8GB is the bare minimum to even play anything, 12GB to play most stuff with some compromises and 16GB if you want to be safe.

[@awebuser5914]

@@phobos2077_ "Current VR headsets require resolutions around 6K" You have completely lost the plot here. PC-centric VR is a ludicrously small niche market, with absolutely no relevance or impact to retail GPU sales. Simply look at the Steam Hardware Survey and you will quickly see that VRAM is utterly and completely meaningless for the vast majority of the market. This is *not* an arguable point.

[@phobos2077_]

@@awebuser5914 You said "How likely is it that 12GB will ever be a real issue" - I pointed out the valid cases where it is very much an issue. Ignoring VR for a moment. All those fancy technologies like DLSS and FrameGen require some VRAM to work + higher resolutions (4K, 1440p, ultrawide etc.) also need more VRAM for all those screen-sized buffers as well as lower texture mip levels. PC VR is just a more extreme example, and based on surveys among flight sim community, it gets only bigger every year.

[@Tintin.johansson]

Regard ASUS....Hello Tintin, I am sorry to inform you that there is currently no Water block available for the ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super 16GB ProArt. Regrettably, there are no plans to develop one at this time. Please know that we understand how frustrating it can be when you're unable to find a suitable product for your needs. I want to assure you that we have carefully considered all options and unfortunately, developing a Water block for the ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super 16GB ProArt is not feasible for us at this time. We apologize for any inconvenience or disappointment that this may cause. Should you need any further information or assistance, feel free to contact us anytime. Kind regards, Jan EKWB Customer Service

[@PSXMicha]

solid refresh? naah.. it's totally a card someone should avoid (if you don't care about RT). especially in germany because of the prices

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

no, 12gb was never enough. 16gb is.

[@powermaster5004]

Thankfully then Im glad I dont live in germany, same price at the 4070 ti was here on release

[@larwiemcdonnel5322]

The ti SUPER seems like a good card to me. should last a lot longer than the 12GB version which ive seen struggling at 4k and even 1440p in some titles due to it running out of memory.

[@hotandcoldrunningwater-hj2mn]

@@larwiemcdonnel5322 Well its exactly what we knew it would be. Why are people shocked? They would clock it higher and fix the terrible lack of frame buffer memory by increasing it by 33% to future proof it and give the card more power with games requiring more memory. Didnt they just do that? Where people expecting a 4090 at this price? Hilarious comments.

[@Maxverstappenracing-dz3pt]

@@hotandcoldrunningwater-hj2mn The SUPER card has 8448 cuda cores (from 7680), 24 more tensor cores, 6 more RT cores and 24 additional texture units. With a small core clock boost and 16GB of memory from 12GB. I struggle with my hardware at 1440p sometimes when my memory runs out. this would be a massive increase for me.

[@Typhon888]

Just get a 4090…. Oh wait they $2.5k better get a 7900xtx

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Oh wait, unplayable as soon as you turn on RT. Better wait for 4080 super.

[@TheDumbTake-xb6rr]

Meh card with meh pricing. I thought it would be more than 10% faster at raster but nope. Nvidia need to drop the price to ~£600 range.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Excellent card with eh pricing. It wouldn't hurt if all cards went down 200 in price.

[@russhodgson5209]

yeah I watched the gamers nexus review too, be a bit more original huh.

[@uw0tm838]

Some BS for 800$, tbh. Too expensive, (1 year) too late

[@anitaremenarova6662]

I agree that it's too late but the price is fine. Obviously ideally it'd be like $600 but we live in reality where Nvidia can get away with because AMD can't figure out their RT tech.

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

Great review Dominic as always. I think ill just wait for the 5000 series now. Getting a bit miffed with Nvidia and their strategies at the time. And lets be honest, AMD are nowhere in sight at this price point.

[@yibozhao1012]

You're the same guy who praised 4080 as "great value" last year. I wouldn't expect anything less from you this time. 🤣

[@KitGuruTech]

Please direct me to where I said that... As it's definitely not true. To help, here as three of the cons I copied from my 4080 review... 'Doesn't offer any value benefit versus the RTX 4090, which doesn't make sense.' 'Many spending this much money may want to step up to a 4090 considering the significant performance differential.' 'Vast increase in price over previous xx80 SKUs.' But don't let the facts get in the way of a good argument 😂

[@yibozhao1012]

I believe it was a video about comparison between 4080 and 2080 Ti. I only watched that one and heard nothing but praise for 4080. @@KitGuruTech

[@theonlyredspecial]

I believe you are wrong. Apology is forthcoming I hope. But unlikely as it’s KZbin comments and people act like muppets.

[@yibozhao1012]

Can't believe i must watch that video(40% dislikes by the way) again to confirm that i was not mistaken. Yeah, it's the same guy, praised 4080 as much as humanly possible. Please watch it yourself and make an apologize, you non-muppet 🤣@@theonlyredspecial

[@MicroageHD]

too slow, too expensive

[@anitaremenarova6662]

No and no.

[@MicroageHD]

@@anitaremenarova6662 It's way too much for the price. Plain and simple.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

Hardly a good card. Besides the increase in vram its not much bettee than the original which was the main issue for me. A card thats $800 should be better. The 4080 should be this price, i feel sorry for all the people who pre ordered this thinkinr it would be almost as good as the 4080. Just kidding i have no sympathy for stupidity lol none of these cards are worth the price. Each one needs to down at least $100 to be somewhat respectable. This gen is such an easy skip. Thanks for saving me money 😂

[@anitaremenarova6662]

You can easily overclock it to be as good as the stock 4080. The reality is quite to the contrary, the 4080 is way too expensive for the uplift it provides and the 4080S won't be much better with no extra future proofing compared to the 4070tiS. I do agree you shouldn't be buying a card each generation however if you're still on a 20 series or older this is an excellent pick.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

@anitaremenarova6662 I highly doubt this can be overclocked to be on the same level as the 4080. The cuda cores are cut down by 14% from the 4080, It also has 48mb l2 cache instead of 64mb and the memory bandwidth is lower. It's already clocked higher than a 4080 as it is. No offence but you're talking bullshit lol

[@anitaremenarova6662]

@@PCgamingbenchmarktime Techpowervp already did it. Gigabyte gaming overclocked comes within 2 frames of the stock 4080, also it's clear you've never done this because when you oc you do it to both the cores and memory which increases the bandwidth considerably.

[@wizardddy3023]

If you're expecting GPU prices to go back to "normal", you're gonna have a bad time. This is the new normal. Nobody likes it, but if you keep skipping generations to save money, you'll never have a good GPU. Buying a new gaming build is something you do once every 5-ish years. You spread those 200-300 extra dollars over those 5 years and it's not that bad. I repeat, nobody likes the high prices. But they're only gonna go up even more. People are still overwhelmingly buying Nvidia. They have somewhere around 80% market share. Waiting out of spite is only hurting yourself. Gambling is always an option. That's how I bought my 7800x3d, 4070ti super build. xD Total cost- €2200 Sure, it's a bit expensive, but every component is top of the line. No cutting corners at all.

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

@wizardddy3023 I completely disagree, I don't think they'll go up. The 4080 sold poorly above $1,000. No chance they'll release an 80 series card above $1,000 again right after the failure of the 4080. The rumoured specs are a good indicator of that, less of an upgrade then we normally would get so they cam keep costs lower and sell at a cheaper price while maintaining similar margins. That makes much more sense, the 5080 will only be slightly ahead of the 4090 with 16gb for $999 imo. It would be foolish to make the same mistake twice in a row

[@mikebruzzone9570]

mb

[@youtubeaccount7544]

7900XT is king

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Unless you turn on RT in which case it shits itself spectacularly.

[@RuukuLada]

16gb in 2024 for $600 is not worth it actually

[@anitaremenarova6662]

What? It's fine for this class of cards. What's more appalling is the 4080 only having 16GB for $1200/1000 for the super.

[@aberboy007]

solid refresh? pmsl

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

clearly you never saw the 12gb to 16gb gains ! this is what nvidia have tried to redress. long overdue !

[@johnerikson2443]

really? clearly you game at low resolution then and dont care about memory count, cause ive had loads of issues with my 12gb running out in games i play. It was always a massive mistake from Nvidia and they fixed it. You can either laugh at them for fixing it, but you can hardly laugh at detailed benchmarks showing the gains. What a stupid comment

[@powermaster5004]

Same price? 4GB more memory? massive increases at high resolution when more texture memory is needed? If you dont need the extra memory then sure. but most of us do. well most of us who want higher res with more texture performance.

[@aberboy007]

@@thetechdevil-jn1vo oh yeah, those gains mighty impressive lolol. #clueless

[@hotandcoldrunningwater-hj2mn]

@@aberboy007 Im amazed you expected something revoluntary. We all knew what this card would be, and its exactly what we knew for ages. They would clock it higher and fix the terrible lack of frame buffer memory by increasing it by 33% to future proof it and give the card more power with games requiring more memory. Did you expect a 4090 in the guise of a 4070 ti SUPER or are you just one of those people that loves to just positive negative comments even if they make no sense?

[@Zyrxne]

these prices are incorrect for EU, the 7900 xt is cheaper and gives more frames than this shit 4070 ti super

[@anitaremenarova6662]

It's not that much cheaper though. $40 less over here but you're losing playable RT which just isn't worth it.

[@shadows_craft]

on ebay 4070 ti super cost mooore expensive than you show. your conclusions FPS for the price are wrong, paid guy.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

Prices vary depending on country. In US they sell at MSRP but here the cheapest is $895. Also ebay has terrible prices in general.

[@dungeondeezdragons4242]

Nobody outside of 4090 users should be playing with rt, just saying. 35-45fps with 25-35 1% lows is nigh unplayable. Also paying more than amd for rt cores that lay dormant for the majority of sinle player games and ALL multiplayer games is just hillarious.

[@emilgustavsson7310]

This has little to do with the video, but how the hell has AMD not been able to figure out raytracing yet?! It is a shame and the only reason i don't go for AMD, besides them not having anything that compares to CUDA. I do some Stable Diffusion and other demanding gfx apps and the CUDA cores are king as of now.

[@ricardocappuccino432]

Kek 1. More expensive than 7900 xt 2. Loses every FPS related test apart from RT. 3. ??? 4. "Guys if I had 800 quid to spend on a GPU, I would go for 4070 ti super' How in the hell do you reach conclusions like this one? I find it extremely difficult to comprehend as the video was really informative.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

It's really simple, one does not spend high-rate GPU money for a GPU that shits itself horrendously when you crank up the settings. RT is included in these and as you can see games are starting to have it enabled by default which could spell doom for AMD unless they can figure their cores out.

[@SigmaHuman-SubGod]

Holy crap the 4070tisuper sucks

[@ethaneaves_04]

U mean it has bad value still lol?!?! it’s still a monster of a card lol 😂

[@SigmaHuman-SubGod]

The price is what makes the card

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

A man that lives up to his user name. 😂

[@VASILISPAGOURAS7]

its last gen perf what monster and shit are you talking about lmao@@ethaneaves_04

[@ethaneaves_04]

@@SigmaHuman-SubGod yes and no to ur point

[@festerleech4952]

The RT results are amazing. Nvidia are just so far ahead of AMD wonder if they will ever catch up.

[@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz]

No chance

[@anitaremenarova6662]

I sure hope they do, if they won't it'll only hurt us consumers.

[@DistractedTrader]

4070TI super is a scam card haha. 7900 XTX is the same price

[@anitaremenarova6662]

In what universe lol, this isn't even true in the US.

[@DistractedTrader]

@@anitaremenarova6662 Australia. Im looking at a 7900XTX $1549 verses a 4070ti super for $1499-1599. What would you take?

[@Hito343]

If you think this is great for the money then you are already too far gone.

[@anitaremenarova6662]

I mean, he's right. It could be $200 cheaper but it's not like that'll happen unless AMD magically catches up with their inferior RT cores.