"New" But Not New - Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 Super Review

[@ionutputinei1466]

If the prices for GPU continue to rise we will have to play outside..

[@BlackJesus8463]

nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[@pb5335]

get your money up

[@sivu2048]

😂

[@EhNothing]

I will consider "outside" just as soon as I figure out how to respawn.

[@kingplunger6033]

or read a book or play less demanding games. a lot of visually impressive games are very lacking in other areas anyway

[@jm0]

The XFX 7900XTX was $799 at Amazon earlier this month, lasted a couple of hours at that price though.

[@eldizo_]

I've been hovering sites for weeks after learning about that. About to buy one now for $910, watch it go back to $800 lmfao

[@lucazani2730]

Fun fact: I saw once about a month ago a new RTX 4080 super selling for 600€ on amazon Italy new. I didn't buy it both because I don't have the money for it and because I have a 1080p monitor and system so it would be useless. But to think that there was such a pricing is amazing. As an Amd guy, buying nvidia as a lower or even equal price than the radeon competitor would be amazing. If only the prices wouldn't be so stupidly high

[@shadowlemon69]

RTX 4080 SUPER at $1,000 which is $200 lower than the original 4080 is still ridiculously overpriced. Which says a lot about the current GPU pricing.

[@paveltelegin7736]

Sold out 😂

[@WyattOShea]

Yeah it's just bullshit pricing. Still around 200-300 usd more than it should be for this class of card like all the other older 80 class gpus used to be.

[@WyattOShea]

@@paveltelegin7736 Doesn't make it good value because it sold out instantly mate. Learn to use your head and not be a blind fanboy

[@lolmao500]

All cards should get a 50% price cut to be honest

[@shadowlemon69]

@@WyattOShea GTX 1080 Ti which is a flagship GPU with just 5GB of VRAM less than the 4080S was $700, lol.

[@mattymcmacca]

I felt so bad for Steve I sat through the sponsor spot.

[@shadowlemon69]

RTX 4080: Horrible Price RTX 4080 SUPER: Bad Price

[@haukionkannel]

Don`t think! Just buy it! 😂😂😂

[@kaylee42900]

Only NVIDIA could knock 200 dollars off, make it slightly faster and STILL have the price be bad. jfc.

[@MrMuggsly]

The more you buy the more you save!!! 🤣

[@NGreedia]

Still horrible given it’s a 14-15 months into a 2 year product cycle. 4080/4080s should have been $800 4070ti/4070ti S $600 4070/4070s $500

[@rabbischlomobengoldbergstein]

RTX 4080: hot flammable garbage RTX 4080s: normal garbage

[@Dreska_]

So naturally in Australia 4080 prices haven't moved and 4080 supers are listing for 25% over MSRP

[@61VeNoM61]

У меня в России видеокарты от gigabyte aorus 4080-1700$ сша,4080super-1730$ сша полный трэш

[@pituguli5816]

Exactly how I thought it would go down mate, so much for all of those "the Supers will change everything" videos aye lol

[@kalidesu]

And throw in GST.

[@Verociity]

$1300usd in NZ, all this hype turned out to be a huge waste of time. Non-super prices have also barely budged.

[@pituguli5816]

@@kalidesu Is GST included there Bro? Its included here.

[@KimBoKastekniv47]

Watch every store outside the US price this card above the standard 4080.

[@thecheecko]

This. Lol.

[@UnluckyDomino]

£959 cards in UK 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@dragontales1999]

They should've priced the 4080 Super at $800, that's what it should've been from the very beginning

[@takehirolol5962]

My country is not even selling the Supers, they want to sell the remaining non Supers first. Typical tactics in the Third World.

[@ys_gamer3194]

I live in egypt , the normal 4080 here costs 3000$

[@gamingoptimized]

Only the 4070 super seems to actually be an upgrade. That's why it was released first

[@NoMaD24623]

And honestly its prob more than enough for 90% of people, so all good ... kind of ... i mean still 650€ here in Germany ...

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@NoMaD24623 99% of people

[@apcook34]

That's what I ordered.

[@alexspeed8888]

The 4070 Super was an upgrade The 4070 TI Super was a VRAM fix The 4080 Super is a price cut XD

[@smarquez42]

Got it for MSRP here in Spain and so far so good. I've got the Inno3d Twin X2, is fairly quiet, never goes over 72° and maxes out all my games above 144fps (except for TLOU but 100 fps is more than enough for a game like that) all while never exceeding 220w.

[@banana_rat96]

So its just a 4080 with a 200 price cut, bruh.

[@thecheecko]

Yup. In theory it's better overall. But the price is gonna hike up to standard 4080 so meh. Same thing.

[@Paelmoon]

I wish it was a price cut. These new cards are somehow more expensive.

[@SweatyFeetGirl]

lol. rtx 4080 super - 1300 euro, 4080 1099€ i dont see the price cuts

[@haukionkannel]

@@SweatyFeetGirl Don`t think! Just buy! The more you buy the more you save! 😂😂😂

[@gerhardaryawardana72]

@@SweatyFeetGirl Where are you getting those prices? In Germany you can get them at the €1100-1300 range, which is actually around €200 less than what the 4080 was selling for in Germany.

[@undertone2472]

Poor Steve. Hang in there mate!

[@jabetsgi]

Thanks Steve

[@HeirofCarthage]

More and more I realize just how genius Nvidia is. Because of DLSS and RT (they marketed these features as world changing and it worked) they can release poor value products at insane prices and people still eat it up. It is fascinating how well marketing can work when done correctly.

[@tyrantworm7392]

It's not pure marketing, DLSS2.* and RT do add value to people who will use those features, and unfortunately Europe need to do a bit of math to work out how much extra energy cost an AMD card will incur over it's expected lifetime. Whether the whole stack's pricing (inc AMD) needs a nerf to make the whole GPU market an enticing proposition is a different question.

[@phm04]

theres just something so satisfying about seeing a dozen of gpu reviews all come out at the same time

[@tether23]

I'm not even remotely interested in buying this product yet I will watch all the reviews

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

same lol @@tether23

[@rucarnuts13]

Wow. $200 price cut and it’s still slower than the 7900XTX in all but ray-traced games. GoOd VaLuE. Hopefully the 7900XTX comes down to $850 so we can get a solid GPU for a good price for once this generation - as if that’ll ever happen.

[@pituguli5816]

Yea doubt it mate, maybe towards the end of the life cycle or after the release of the next gen. XTX dropped a bit here already from $2200 on release to $1549 for the Hellhound, not the best but allot better value than a $2000 4080S.

[@andersjjensen]

Let me correct that for you: In all by Nvidia Sponsored ray-traced games. Funny how that works, isn't it? In Cyberpunk 2/3rds of the RT effects look no better than the highest rasterised version, and if you enable the only one that actually makes sense (RT Reflections) the XTX keeps up perfectly well.

[@pituguli5816]

@@andersjjensen Yea I ran reflections in Cyberpunk but still it crippled my 3090, max settings I could barely hit 30FPS and path tracing forget it.. It was a slide show, not even the 4090 can do it so after running it in Cyberpunk I haven't bothered turning it on in any other games not that many of my games even support it. XTX is a great card and its $350 cheaper here than the 4080S.

[@andersjjensen]

@@pituguli5816 Uh, what? With RT Reflections set to High and everything else set to highest raster option my XTX runs Cyberpunk at ~95FPS @ 1440p. So unless you're getting hammered by the extra CPU power RT costs your 3090 should do that at 75FPS without problems, even at 4k with DLSS Quality.

[@pituguli5816]

@@andersjjensen It doesn't though, any RT setting cripples my 3090, I played through Cyberpunk 109 hours and I turned it off at around the 50 hour mark because the frame times were terrible. 4k no way not even close, I play at 1440p and this 3090 just can't do it. Even with DLSS quality which downscaled res to 1080p it mostly ran at around 50FPS with dips in the 40's in some areas but the frame times were horrible it felt like 30FPS. Its not my processor I have a 7950x paired with CL32 6000mhz 2x16gb Ram and its installed on a 980 Pro 2tb NVME. Path tracing it dropped to 15FPS... Not even a 4090 can do it.

[@Paelmoon]

Here in NZ the prices have gone up, despite Nvidia dropping the price by $200.

[@haukionkannel]

😂

[@phoenixgaming20]

same in Aus feels bad

[@thesilentassassin1167]

Only USA is safe when it comes to high prices of GPUs, everywhere else it's fucked up

[@Azza-25]

@@phoenixgaming20 prices have gone down in Aus, I picked up a 4080 for $1549 AUD yesterday, that's over $300 AUD cheaper than the 4080 Super.

[@GewelReal]

the more you buy

[@jonboy2950]

the 7900xtx can be purchased for £870 in the UK whilst the 4080 super is north of £1000

[@JP-xd6fm]

Now the lads in the UK will be able to aford the cards due the gov. is banning the machetes so they will save money not being able to buy those and they can spend it on GPUs, is a win win for british sociaty

[@fracturedlife1393]

Can still get that sweet non super 4080 goodness for £1150😂

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

I'd never buy either of them. In a year, they'll both be half that price.

[@MrGts92]

​@@Patrick-y4d1zNo they won't. Who on earth told you that rubbish😂😂

[@k.23_02]

They probably think that because the 5070 will likely be just as powerful as a 4080 Super but at a lot cheaper price​@@MrGts92

[@omletgod2488]

how could they fuck up so bad… they didn’t even make it faster than the xtx 😂

[@dereklang4451]

nVidia never gives you something for cheaper. They tried ripping off with the 4080 and now they are selling it again at the price it should have been, which is still too high. If you want more power you have to 'sell a kidney' for the 4090 😂

[@chocholatemilkshake4799]

Space for 5000 series

[@tether23]

If they made it faster how could they justify 4090 pricing?

[@Qwenil]

@@chocholatemilkshake4799 What space lol. We've got at least a year till RTX 5000 series.

[@fixminer9797]

It’s the fully unlocked AD103 GPU, if they wanted to make it any faster they would’ve needed to switch to AD102 which would have messed up their product stack. But they could have dropped the price of the 4080 to $1000 and released an AD102 4080ti for $1200.

[@julianB93]

if the 4080 wouldve launched at this price i wouldnt have waited months before deciding to go for the 7900xtx. The 12 pin power connector was also a thing, but well here we are.

[@VanyaYlianov]

same here, came from 1080 to 7900xtx)

[@NephilimGodMusic]

I went from a 3060ti to 7900 XTX OC Very happy :)

[@Константин-ч1я4ч]

The 7900xtx at 950 dollars for 4k remains the best choice for me

[@adamburch1296]

I found one on sale for $800. If you're quick and observant, you can still find great deals on the amd gpu's. Heck, I found a regular 4080 for $950 new once. It's still not worth it to me at that price. But deals still sort of exist.

[@stunt296]

It's fine but just keep in mind that a lot of newer games will require upscaling if you want 4k 120fps and DLSS is vastly superior to FSR.

[@GewelReal]

950 is way too much. 800-850 at most

[@dhsjakacjenal]

@@stunt296vastly superior simply isn’t true

[@renebaan7430]

it was on sale the other for 650

[@devinport.]

TLDR wait for the 5000 series espcially if you are on the rtx 3000 series

[@cxngo8124]

Well I'm waiting for it while on a 2060.

[@takehirolol5962]

Well, a 5060 will be like a 3070.

[@adamek9750]

5000 series for $5000

[@legiox3719]

Waiting while on a 1080

[@jaxonswain3408]

I'm waiting for next gen and currently running a GTX 1070. I've decided to play older games in the mean time. Many new titles are woke trash anyways so I'm not really in a hurry to upgrade, lol.

[@GewelReal]

Honestly, XTX here looks to be faster than I remember, especially at 4K

[@andersjjensen]

Techpowerup only has it as 2% faster (at 4k) than the 4080 because they run a very large sample of games (over 100), but most of them are old. The more new titles you include in the average, the better it does, and the further it also pulls ahead of RDNA2.

[@poopoppy]

I wouldn't choose a 7900 xtx over a 4080 to play in 4k. Nvidia has far better upscaling. The 7900 xtx should be 200 bucks cheaper than a 4080 super.

[@andersjjensen]

@@poopoppy According to Newegg the cheapest 4080 Super in stock is $366 more expensive than the cheapest 7900XTX ($1275 vs $909). Those are the non-open-box, non-refurb models. And before you ask: The cheapest regular 4080 model is $20 more expensive.... so you're getting a way better discount on AMD than you're even demanding.

[@Adri9570]

@@poopoppy 4K FSR Quality is the one exception from FSR: there's no noticeable difference (to 4K DLSS Quality) unless you freeze the image and start to search for differences that in motion are almost no real use case concern.

[@Jojo_Tolentino]

It’s more reasonable to wait for the next gen at this point in time. Up to later this year, prices will likely steadily go down so you can avoid being ripped off by both companies.

[@ac0rpbg]

that's optimistic, imagine waiting for 40series and you get $1.2k 80 card, now extrapolate this for 5080 with 10% more performance and $1.4k price tag :D

[@azmc4940]

NVIDIA prices don't typically go down. They just stop making the old cards.

[@firstsonofthesea7938]

what are you waiting for to pay more money its not reasonable at all

[@akamaih6463]

In Australia the 4080 vanilla was available from $1499 AUD (street price from this week). Now the super variant is on AU sites from $1870 AUD Not worth an extra $300-400 for the super variant

[@Mark_Williams.]

4080 vanilla may have been that previously but it's not available for that currently, more like $1700 so it's a $170 markup.

[@akamaih6463]

@@Mark_Williams. The PNY 4080 at MSY / Umart for $1499 has sold out. Though the next cheapest one is for $1599 on Umart (Galax GeForce RTX 4080 SG 1-Click). But as the vanilla 4080 get bought bought up at some point the 4080 Super would be a better purchase

[@nathanpurss4582]

​@RAM_845yup which is why j suggest AMD for friends then they're building. It's so much cheaper with far better future proofing if you throw CPUs in there

[@Frozoken]

@RAM_845 No thanks mate my room is not that big and i dont feel like boiling alive. Especially with how terrible RDNA 3 is in efficiency at moderate loads. Ie optimum tech showed the 4080 super using 65w in overwatch 2 at 1440p while the 7900 xtx used about 210w. Sure in the lower midrange and below RDNA 2 is much better than ampere or lovelace in value tho but that's basically, lf not literally everywhere. Also u can buy used 3080's for $675 rn and thats like 25% faster, im not dumb enough to declare that its an ex mining card becuase the seller didnt disclose it but even if it was the 3080 is barely worse cost per frame while having all of nvidias features that matter like DLSS2 and reflex, im sure u care about reflex like i do if uve bought a 240hz monitor, no?

[@BlackJesus8463]

Thats the second dumbest thing I've heard all day.

[@gmcanepa]

Both Hardware Unboxed and Gamer's Nexus sound soooo jaded with this review, like they don't even want to do this anymore xD

[@CaptainScorpio24]

its but obvious .. fir just 2 3 % gain, it is a hell lot of testing and pain in ass.

[@starsnstrife]

​@@CaptainScorpio24they are in gpu hell.

[@mannyc19]

Agreed, all the same they should both quit then, dead serious.

[@NathanAtkinson590]

I mean they don't have to do it, they just won't get views and paid. I don't like my job, but it brings in money.

[@Jacketz123]

@@NathanAtkinson590average Redditor single digit IQ response

[@ipotato95]

Good to see nvidia found a way to disappoint us with this but mostly the 4070 ti super. At least this one is a discount from the previous but the 4070ti being 3% faster was just a joke

[@Amp_Edition]

its really not a bad deal if you look at it this way, its the cheapest card on green team with 16gb of vram, you get most of the 4080 performance for 200 less...i personally think its funny how people are pissed off about that, everyone listened to the hype from leakers and youtubers about how the 4070ti super was going to be the cheaper 4080. Nvidia was never going to do that when they had problems selling the 4080 in the first place. you will never feel the difference between the 4080 and the 4070ti super in game unless you are watching the frame counter, also if you overclock its basically a 4080 minus 5-10 frames depending on the game. I started out with a 4080 when they launched and then sold it because i wanted to try a 7900xtx and its great, but between AMD and game developers i switched back to green team for the better drivers and bought myself the 4070ti super, i cant tell the difference between the 3 when gaming! i was also playing at 4k 120fps and just recently swapped for a 1440p 165hz, im telling you i cant tell the difference especially with dlss. its a great deal for the money compared to the 4080's, if people want the real performance they need to jump the 4090 and forget NVidia ever made the 4080.

[@divijmehendru6206]

@@Amp_Edition 4060ti 16gb also, 12gb vram is fine for gaming, the limiting factor is rasterization performance which is reduced by dlss.

[@nossy232323]

@@Amp_Edition So you think 14 months of gaming wasn't worth 200 USD?

[@Amp_Edition]

@nossy232323 you mean 400? 4080 is 1200 and the 4080s you can buy today is 1000. the regular 4070ti exists, I did not need a 4080, its just what I picked at the time because sales were so bad that nvidia gave the go ahead and gave 15% off to bestbuy customers. So I got 120$ off the 1200 price. All I'm saying is you don't need to spend that kind of money for the higher frame rates, especially with dlss and frame gen. The 4070ti and super variant can get it done easily! Iv had a 4080, I also have a 7900xtx that I'm selling because drivers are much worse than nvidia and I just didn't want to spend 1k or more on a graphics card anymore, especially when I seen the 4070ti super giving 90% of a 4080 and 95% if you overclock the piss out of it. For 200 less. I'm happy with it!

[@nossy232323]

@@Amp_Edition I am comparing the RTX 4080 vs the RTX 4080 Super. So yes the RTX 4070 TI is a better deal and the RTX 4070 Super is even better looking from a performance to price comparison. It's normal that the lower you go in the product stack the better the "value" is. That's not what I was talking about here. I personally find it a bad deal since the price is still high and you are better of getting real next GPU's normally. I personally have a RTX 4090 which I bought about 1 year ago. I had a GTX 1080 before. I am fully aware this has a crazy price, but at least I keep my hardware for a long time, so my cost/year is still OK.

[@watchlover7750]

I hope that After the drunken days of COVID shortage we are slowly going back to the days when the top cads weee priced around 500/600€/usd

[@erikbritz8095]

no@@Jmack1lla

[@BenState]

@@Jmack1lla AUD or USD?

[@osirisgolad]

​@@Jmack1lla How is that relatively in line? That's a 20% premium for a product that's already over a year old when comparing the 4080 at $1000 to the 980Ti after correcting for inflation, not to mention that it should be compared to the $600 980, not the Ti. The Titan X is most similar to the 4090, which is 50% more expensive after correcting for inflation and uses almost double the power the Titan X did.

[@ronniekregar3482]

Never happening. Once they saw what people were willing to pay during COVID, it was a wrap.

[@osirisgolad]

@@Jmack1lla A Titan X was $1315 corrected for inflation as you said, the 4090 is $2000. That's not 20%. Point being that it's not just the strength of the dollar(we already corrected for inflation), they are actually charging more.

[@spill1t]

Good lord that intro to the product review! You did the whole point of the vid in 2 sentences...AND it was honest.

[@dshifty_]

For 3080 owners and above, the 4000 series shoud just be skipped. There's nothing that justifies these prices and cards unless you really wanna push 4K max settings RT.

[@Carrotsalesman]

In Australia, I just looked this morning and the 4080 supers are $2000. The original 4080 was $1800. So we get a fun and fair $200 INCREASE in price. I know you guys do your reviews in USD, but maybe a quick bit at the end if your videos with AUD pricing to being attention to the rip-off gauging happening here. Maybe throw Centrecom, scorptec etc some shade for it. Insane how a "price cut" somehow means a price increase, far out.

[@marcusellby]

"Make it stop" lol 😂

[@WilliamOwyong]

The RTX4080 Super really does feel like an exercise in marketing tactics - try and boost sales by making it look like great value compared to the original.

[@WGK90]

For 99% of us, the 7800XT is the only GPU on this list really worth looking at.

[@aftp4i94]

I picked one up not too long after launch to replace my old 1660 Super. Overkill for a 1080p monitor but it gives me the option to pick up a 1440p should the desire hit me or just not worry about it and enjoy skipping at least the next 2 generations of gpus.

[@nathangamble125]

RTX 4070 Super is pretty good for people who want similar rasterisation performance to the RX 7800 XT but with better efficiency and/or ray tracing. I still bought a 7800 XT myself though, and don't intend to replace it any time soon.

[@BPMa14n]

For 99% of the 15% total gpu market share who are loyal AMD fans yes. The other 1% switch to team Green.

[@drago939393]

​@@BPMa14n And buy which card..?

[@GrandmasterBBC]

I say watch the deal sites for price drops and grab either one at the right price. Given the high entry fee, 4K gaming ain't quite ready for prime time.

[@Noccyboy]

Man, I’ve been holding out for 8 years, looks like it’ll be 10

[@dupond948]

Same, my 1070 is still alive X)

[@xpodx]

Damn you have a weak card then.

[@xpodx]

​@@dupond948don't like high refresh rate 4k gaming huh?

[@jwest88]

I'm not sure how long it's been, but my 1080 has been with me for a while now. I upgrade my whole platform to AM5 and my PSU recently, but not willing to support this current GPU market. I can wait longer.

[@xpodx]

@@jwest88 then you'll have a weaker, slower experience.

[@geirolafsson9487]

Hope this pushes the 7900xtx close to 800 dollar, that would be a buy for me. If not then I will just wait for next gen 😎👍

[@Stavroization]

That's what i'm hoping for which will also push the rest of the stack down as well. $~600 7900xt, $400 7800xt

[@neo4422]

this shit aint gonna move 7900xtx unfortunately

[@Stavroization]

@@neo4422 there's no way it's not. No one but a fanboy will buy a 7900xtx with only a $50 price cut.

[@pituguli5816]

@@StavroizationExcept its not $50 here in my country, its a $450 difference.

[@Stavroization]

@@pituguli5816 yeah that's dumb lol

[@Shannon-ul5re]

Priced between $1800 to $2200 here in Australia. The price of my first car, it’s madness!

[@wombatillo]

Due to the boom in AI applications they can sell every GPU they make almost regardless of the price. Gaming GPUs are approaching a nuisance level fringe market status for Nvidia.

[@adityaekapratama6320]

Gaddamn, here in Indonesia is about $1100 (the cheapest that i can find the seller kinda iffy tho, for the Authorized seller is about $1200 )

[@dhaumya23gango75]

@@adityaekapratama6320 I think he meant austrailian dollars, 1800 AUD is equivalent to 1171 USD.

[@mitchjames9350]

The 4090 price in Australia is even more ridiculous

[@ccallaghan84]

As someone who just sold his 4090 and went to a 7900XTX. Don't sleep on AMD. I know team green does a lot of marketing to brainwash buyers into thinking they are superior, but that 7900XTX isn't that far behind the 4090, at half the price. AMD just released driver level frame gen for folks, too, it works well enough. I know, I know, RT and all that. It's not quite there yet. Half the games I turn it on with, crash with RT on - Watch Dogs Legion, Hogwarts, etc. Crashes more on nvidia than AMD it seems, but I haven't measured it. Maybe next gen. On and AMD power connectors don't melt, like my 4090's did.

[@pituguli5816]

Yea I have a 3090 Bro and want to jump up to a 4k 144hz monitor, currently on 1440p 144hz. I went with an all white 7950x build so the Hellhound XTX for $1750 is looking pretty good plus yea no melting power cables.

[@andersjjensen]

@@pituguli5816 I have 4k 27" monitors at work and 1440p 27" monitors at home. Don't go 4k... it's really not worth it.

[@OneDollaBill]

1440p 3% faster... Wtf Nvidia 😂

[@plasmahvh]

what? it's the same chip as the 4080

[@HazzyDevil]

@@plasmahvhand? The performance uplift hardly warrants a “Super” title. Might as well overclock the stock 4080 and get that 3% uplift or more anyways 💀

[@gucky4717]

It was never about it being faster.

[@HazzyDevil]

@@gucky4717 then that makes ZERO sense. The Super series have always been about having decently faster cards for a similar/cheaper price.

[@euphoria842]

@@HazzyDevil no, the super is just a generic tagline to insinuate a mid cycle refresh. Whether it is to correct performance vs competition (the 20supers) or to just correct pricing (these 40 supers)

[@leandromorais1584]

These Super variants made me sure that it's best to wait for the RTX 5000 to upgrade my RTX 3070, thanks Nvidia.

[@ahmedzid1119]

Still tanking à 1070 but I will wait until rtx 5000

[@drakotaz7729]

3070 for upgrade? boy im still on a 1070ti

[@BenState]

got the pcie bandwidth though?

[@haukionkannel]

If you can afford 5000 series!

[@thesilentassassin1167]

Your 3070 will easily last next 3 years, you won't need to upgrade till 6000 series comes out, just my opinion

[@RAZGR1Z]

Stop giving these companies money.

[@gucky4717]

@HWUB Hallo there. I have a question that I ask myself since the release of the 4080. Why is the 4090 actually so slow? It has 60% more cuda cores and a >40% higher powerlimit, but is only 35% faster in 4k. It has even less of an uplift from the 4080 in 1440p. Did the 4090 hit some other form of bottleneck, like VRAM bandwidth or PCIe bandwidth? Will the RTX50x0 (5090) with possibly even more cuda cores show an even bigger bottleneck of some kind? Or is there possibly some kind of driver limitation actually holding the 4090 back?

[@blond_slut]

Interesting take

[@Drahko12]

This gpu should actually be $800-880. Maybe $900 but at $1000 is still expensive for just a gaming high end gpu. Is crazy you can get years ago for $800 the top high gaming gpu from nvidia with the 1080 ti. How times have changed 😢

[@Justlivelife101]

At least in Australia this super release made the price of the OG 4080 go way down for clearance. Managed to get one for 1499 AUD. Now all the supers are more expensive than the original though despite the fact they are meant to be "cheaper" haha

[@m-copyright]

All we want is the prices to go back to normal. The 60/60Ti cards to cost 200-250$, the 70/70ti 300-350$, the 80/80ti/super version 500-600 and the 90 or Titan version 800-1000$. Is that too much to ask?

[@SolCrown80]

The greedflation rate is like double the inflation rate, lol.

[@SomethingReallyPretentious]

Bought a regular RTX 4080 Gaming OC two months ago for 1252 euros. Now, the all new RTX 4080 SUPER Gaming OC costs 1242 euros! I can definitely feel that 200 dollars MSRP difference. Oh wait, the retailers now have bumped up the price of the regular RTX 4080 by about 100-150 euros in order to make the RTX 4080 SUPER seem cheaper. The regular RTX 4080 Gaming OC now costs 1370 euros. Nice work! Won't even mention the extremely close to MSRP price of the RTX 4080 SUPER Strix :D *cough* 1499 euros *cough*

[@NoName-st6zc]

Here's the real Question everyone should ask themselves : If there's a 4070 Ti Super for 800$ that's on an AD103 and has roughly (give or take) the same specs from an manufacturing perspective like the OG 4080, why did the 4080 did cost 1200$ in the first place? Or, a different take : why does the 4080 Pooper still comes at 1000$? Nothing adds up here.

[@roryodonnell]

It's a profit making scam, innit

[@pituguli5816]

Buh buh buh maaa RT and DLSS go boom

[@selohcin]

If my calculations are correct, the 4080 Super at $1,000 provides 15% better value for money than the 7900 XTX does at $980 when weighing rasterization and ray tracing equally. To provide equivalent value for money, the 7900 XTX would have to drop to $833.

[@EEESRAINMAN]

I have a 3080, and I see absolutely no reason to upgrade this generation. Hopefully the 5000 series offers meaningful uplifts in performance without having to go to the 90 class cards

[@PCgamingbenchmarktime]

Exactly what I expected lol. It was funny seeing people excited for this thinking it was going to be in-between the 4080 and 4090.. Even though the specs suggested a max around 5-6% performance increase as a best case scenario. What's even more funny is that the 4080 has been on sale for $1,499 here in Australia for 2 days and it still hasn't sold out....yet the super is going to be almost $400 more than this 😂😂😂 for basically the same performance. What is going on , it's also telling that even at $1500 the 4080 still wasn't selling well. Had it have been $1500 at launch it might of been a decent card, but now after all this time it's not worth it. Too little too late, the super needs to drop to that price and the 4080 $1300 imo

[@Stavroization]

I thought them giving the card a price cut was a pretty clear message that it was going to perform very closely to the base 4080

[@mddunlap03]

Seems like it's already bandwidth limited 3% faster memory and 3% uplift but it also has 5% more cores running 2% faster so you should have had at least a 7% uplift

[@jporter504]

I know that prices change constantly but the 7900 XTX is readily available at or below $950 in the U.S. now.

[@amlanmaity2538]

Hope there will be a 4080 Super Ti card soon 😂😂

[@matthope_qc]

Still happy with my purchase, I got the 4070 Ti for 700USD last prime day (july 2023). I wanted a 7900XT but price wasn't (and still) aren't competitive in Canada.

[@jwiz1911]

100% holding out for the next generation now. I've been a 60 series buyer up to now and it's bad enough finding out the price at this tier has doubled (or worse). I would like to have better performance, but the thought of moving from my 1060 that I paid $200 for to a 70 series card at $700+ is bonkers.

[@Sidak_studio]

Maybe just maybe if nvidia launched this thing at 850 back when the original 4080 launched they would not be in so much shit rn

[@vijayla21]

They are perfectly fine. The cards are sold out.

[@kerotomas1]

In the EU it came out at 1250-1350 euros so the -200 dollars is literally nowehere to be found.... 1000 dollars my butt, pretty much costs the exact same here as the original 4080

[@KryssN1]

That’s depends on the country, Norway, germany, Poland its a price cut and msrp

[@ratede91]

I coulda had a 7900 xtx for the longest but I have waited this whole time........ for THIS!?

[@jermainesabajo7225]

😂😂 im sorry bro

[@VanyaYlianov]

i waited until september so there wasnt super announcement and i took 7900xtx) after today absolutely no regrets.

[@kristoffer3000]

same... Held out for way too long, coulda bought it when it first came out but I expected better things coming

[@Bunta1987qwerty]

@@kristoffer3000just like I’m waiting for next gen, but watch the price/performance improve by 5-10% lol

[@kristoffer3000]

@@Bunta1987qwerty Yeah, I'm just sick of my 3070, 8gb of vram is honestly just a joke.

[@vipersrtcharger4562]

In my country (Greece) The 7900XTX costs around 900 euros ($970) The 4080s costs around 1200 euros ($1300) I think AMD has a huge advantage as far as vfm is concerned

[@retrofraction]

Even at $1,000 I just can’t justify this card. Perhaps at $750 it would make sense, but even then I still would be questioning the purchase.

[@steelfalconx2000]

Steve you should've just done a community post for this review: "This is our review of the 4080 Super: Lol. But cheaper. Steve out!"

[@beachslap7359]

Let's hope that gamers don't accept 80 class at 1000$ as a new standard.

[@jeromenancyfr]

Honestly, not only the price is increasing , but the 80 class does not mean anything anymore, it is not longer the flagship by a huge margin.

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

It's not about gamers. Nvidia legit don't care about the consumer market at this point. What matters is what companies are willing to bulk buy for AI development and nothing else. I would love to go AMD but unfortunately I need NVENC for my workload.

[@LeP009]

Never

[@mannyc19]

Already have....but thats changing ,as evidenced by these larger cuts in $

[@mysticqro950]

Yet, y’all think over $2k is okay for a 90 tier class? (and don’t tell me “oooh that is actually fine because it’s the best card out here”. It doesn’t matter…. None are okay to begin with).

[@drizz786]

Still holding for my ground up build, raster is king in what i play so,, still waiting for that fire cracker to happen. I maybe waiting a while, 1080ti still chugging along pushing 5120 x 1440 .

[@MusashiOf5Rings]

I held off building a new computer after the 40 series launch, hoping AMD would come in as the hero. I decided that if I could get a high trim 7900XTX like a Sapphire Nitro for $1000, I'd pull the trigger. Far more than I'd ever spent on a GPU, but I could justify it to myself. Obviously AMD missed by about $100, so I found a used EVGA 3080 FTW3 for a little over $500 and even today it feels like it was the right call. Today's GPU market feels more like a hostage situation rather than a fun hobby.

[@Major.Alvega]

The 7900XTX or the RTX4080, whichever gets to 800€ first, gets my money. I have spoken.

[@laserak9887]

RTX 4080 should be $700 at most

[@santeenl]

Just got a 7800xt back in October and not looking back.

[@pedro.alcatra]

O my God haw can NVIDIA makes the 7900 XT even more appealing

[@playloud90278]

I'm currently running a 1080Ti, though honestly I'm not gaming much at all right now. I'd still like to upgrade, and if they launched the 4080 at this price, I might have pulled the trigger then. But now we're a year closer to Blackwell, and I'm less interested in throwing out that kind of cash. I'm sure I'd do it if I were gaming more. /sigh

[@DTM1337]

Great review, will hold out for 5xxx series, my 1080Ti still going strong!

[@firstsonofthesea7938]

That makes no sense especially if you dont have a 4k setup you'd just be paying for an expensive card and monitor

[@AndersHass]

I would recommend the chart says rasterization, when it is only it just like it says rt when it is only raytracing. Edit: Or it could say no rt/ray tracing.

[@prometheus4130]

that huge gap above towards the 4090, usually nature abhors a vacuum unless its GPU. sticking with my 4070

[@ChosenOneDan]

got a 6800xt back in december 2022 for around the $500 range and got two games included. kinda glad I didn't wait for the 7000 series or 40 series imo. the 4070 super i thinks the only gpu thats a decent deal for the mid / high end. but I'd like to see that card closer to $500

[@Antagon666]

Ngreedia bullied us into thinking that 1000$ for mid GPU is a good deal.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

It’s not a good deal.

[@formulaic78]

I had zero intention of buying a 40 card this generation cos they were all priced too high, but when the price cut was announced and I looked at Steve's orginal 4080 review and the 50% uplift over my 3080 it tempted me enough. If I had faith that Nvidia would sell a 5080 for $800 in a year and it would be available at that price I would have held out for that, but I don't. Maybe I'm part of the problem, but life is short and I'll take a 50% uplift (and more with DLSS 3.0) now over a possible better deal in a year.

[@gameindustryinsider6450]

Not regretting sitting this gen out. Happy to sit the next one out too and game on a ps5 Pro instead :)

[@nerdjournal]

lmao. I held off replacing my damaged, but functioning 6700 xt because I couldn't really force myself to spend my money on the rtx 4070. I really want to get a card with at least 16gb ram to make sure I'm kind of future proofed. This card had the potential to offer a little extra value, and I have a bit more saved up now than what I had saved initially for a 4070. However, I still have my money in my hand and I just can't talk myself into buying any of these cards. I think... I'll just run my 6700 xt until it refuses to kick then... I will see where the market is. I'm hoping it can get me to the 50 series so I can grab eithe 4070 ti super of 4080 super second hand or something.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Retest. 4080 super now matches the 7900xtx over the past 5 months of driver updates. Or its at least within 1 or 2fps that is in raster. Then you have all of the extras! And nobody can say oh well the xtx is better for frame per dollar now. Its to close to really say that lol.

[@rinkaemina]

Will regular RTX 4080 price decrease??? RTX 4080 Super are cheaper than non-super in online market currently.

[@HankBaxter]

I was just curious about the difference in quality/speed between 1440p native vs 4k upscaled. From what I gather from a cursory look, you're only losing 10% fps for what could be a higher quality image than 1440 native. Anyway, a video on that would be good.

[@ruslannailevich]

Here's hoping for an 700usd xx102 tier of silicon. I paid 900CAD for a new 1080ti, back in the day, and 800cad for used 3080ti in 2022, would love to keep the xx102 streak going, but it's looking grim

[@stevenbitecofer6831]

All these recent reviews have just made me feel better about my decision to purchase a 6950xt a bit over a year ago for under $700. I have enjoyed the card and really have not lost much ground, if any to the newer top tier cards.

[@NeilVaz-e3z]

Sitting on a 3090 FE (couldn't get a hold of a 3080 FE, and I was building a new rig back then) since 2020. Will wait for 50 series. I just hope a 5080 will be a decent uplift over a 3090 for less than what the 4080 super is currently going for. Probably wishful thinking but one can hope. I just hope the difference between a 5080 and 5090 isn't going to be as wide as the 40 series.

[@dtectatl1]

Im glad I picked up a 7900xtx. I was waiting for the 4080 super launch but I ended up snipeing a used hellhound 7900xtx for $850. I was a little worried I jumped the gun but now im sure it was the right move lol.

[@NinerJonny]

Just purchased the Sapphire XTX and the Zotac 4080…I’m gonna do my own testing and see which works best for me…

[@TheLongWind]

Cyberpunk looks amazing at 1440p balanced dlss with ray reconstruction and rt reflections only with high settings. I can't imagine how good 4k ultra with pathtracing would look 👀

[@ShinyHelmet]

What a month. Steve gets flu for the second time and then gets trolled on a weekly basis by AMD and Nvidia. 😆

[@GGBGameplays]

$800 is the max acceptable MSRP for a 80 series GPU in current days. I doubt NVIDIA will go back next generation, they likely will price the 5080 at $1000 again.

[@keepitsimpletech]

I just saw the Aussie pricing wow that is ridiculous. I can't remember what the non-super cost but from $1869 is crazy

[@theexpatgunner]

Originally for my new build I was planning to buy the 7900XTX and was set on this idea for the longest time! But then comes the RTX4080 Super… ultimately I ended up buying an RTX4090, something I thought I’d never do!

[@peterbrett7000]

Steve, thanks for the review and feedback as I have been holding out for the last 18 months, and now need to pull the trigger as my RTX 2070 Super is not performing or even MSFS 2020 very well with all the updates lately. I generally buy in that 70 series card, but with the RAM on the 4070 decided to upgrade to the 4080 series this time, and also feel this card is going to give me a little more longevity before the next upgrade. I look every day on the Australian 3 big sites for hopefully a small price reduction and every day say just one more day. Now the 4080 super is on their sites by the price did not see any reduction, and in fact I they appear to be the same $2100 - 2200 for the higher end cards like the Asus Strix OC, which is the card I'm waiting for? Should I be holding on to see if this stabilises or am I just wasting my time and gaming enjoyment? I know our dollar value is garbage, but this is ridiculous?

[@evolucion888]

Got lucky that I bought an Open box Gigabyte Aorus 7900XTX OC for $729 on Newegg back in last August. Happy camper here.

[@mukkah]

4:33 this... this is why you continue to make these videos... and why us viewers keep coming back XD

[@calpin_dk]

I’ve been holding on to my trusty 5800XT until today. It’s been 5 years and I’ve pulled the trigger on the 4080 Super today and it’s my first high end gpu. I live in Europe and the price of kilowatt hours are insane which was a big factor in my decision making.

[@streambotnt2095]

I got my XTX in summer and it has been a blast to game with. If I built my pc today, I'd probably get the 4080 Super, even if it is worse value. That RTX capability would sell it to me. But I stick with my XTX, it is beautiful after all.

[@buddybleeyes]

Im still holding on to my 2070 super, and seeing how the 4090 prices are on 5090 release. Rather be a generation behind with a massive jump in performance, that doesnt cost me over $1,000 plus the tax that everywhere outside the us has been slapped with on top. Uk prices are decently over msrp still

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

It needs to be at around the MSRP price of the RTX 3080 to be considered a really good value product.

[@chuck2200]

2-3% performance increases is pretty laughable....I hope these new super cards sit on the shelves.

[@VeritronX]

4080 super is currently listed for 360 aud more than what I paid for my xtx 8 months ago.. that's 4 full price copies of baulders gate 3 more expensive

[@functiongarage]

Everyone complained, yet somehow they still mostly sold out 1hr after launch. Some places added some restocks but those are selling too. Not like the 4070 people are in fact buying the 4080 Super. They aren't going to reduce prices, the product is moving...

[@fracturedlife1393]

"Downclock the Moneyprinter, it's Artifacting!!?!"

[@GabrielCarvalho-gd8op]

I for one, got tired of waiting for prices to drop and got myself a 6950XT for less than a 7700XT, so quite a nice deal. My only complaint is power, but comparing it to a XT or XTX put it in the same boat, so not really anything that can be done. Would've gone for a 4080 a few months ago if it was priced $1k, but this late in the gen, I think we better just wait for RDNA4 and Blackwell

[@cylonred8902]

I am going to keep my 3060 12 gig card that I bought last year and continue to hold out.