Nvidia's Forgotten Flagship!

[@frank144p4]

8:58 So you’re saying that due to the cars the card can’t keep up and it may be a _driver_ related issue... 👀

[@infelicitas]

As a car guy I really appreciate this one

[@jhonjhon1740]

@@the_motherfucker r/ihavereddit

[@jasongrimshaw-smith8369]

hehe, dad joke, and i understood it and chuckled a little :D

[@ahmadsheikhghalavand1904]

I really like these videos. They're amusing, informative and pretty damn good. I learned how to clean, put together my pc, overclock and many things just from your channel. Good job mate

[@dobrosbirka]

The other day I was able to get my hands on one of those, made by Asus. As often happens with the older cards, it needs to be serviced and the thermal paste and pad needs to be replaced. Looking forward to testing it in games, so big thanks for making this video!

[@lbsiuk]

Why do you not upload in 60/48 FPS anymore? Not angry, just curious. Also that thing is faster than my GT310 from years later.

[@shadyss96]

This reminds me of the disaster 8800gt that was between this I think. It was a single slot card that claimed dual slot performance, and it was just bad.

[@thegloriouspotato6223]

My uncle had that card up until half a year ago.

[@romefox]

I had one of these, it was great for its time.

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

2:08 I just realized Crysis 2007 looks better than Halo Infinite......

[@troublebreathing8648]

Are you using an apple monitor?

[@playingwithtrainerspcmt6407]

I remember owning that card I loved it got it from Best Buy it was expensive I was barely 20 so to me it was very expensive

[@ChristmasCrustacean1]

you really need to find another 9800 GTX+ and get them running in SLi

[@DarkFox786]

should of been named something like gtx 9800 NEO

[@nyftn]

had the 9850GX2

[@w19ely85]

I had the 512mb Asus "Dark Knight" version of this card. I had to RMA it and they sent me the rarer 1gb version

[@whitenoiserevived6575]

I just had a look at that card and Jesus that's a beefy cooler for the time

[@scellyyt]

thats some real cement based thermal paste right there

[@MozrowDrops]

I have the same exact one from eBay , cost me 1.99 good temps

[@TheAcidMuskitears]

@@MozrowDrops I think that Scelly is referring to the stuff that was dried and removed from the old gpu, not the stuff that B-BO applied.

[@CaveyMoth]

Keeps the GPU stone cold.

[@Churchgrimm]

It reminded me of some thermal paste I had to scrape off the northbridge of a Westmere era SuperMicro server board recently. Literally took me two hours solid of scrubbing I burned through 20+ alcohol wipes. I eventually resorted to using my fingernails at the end. Remarkably the northbridge die survived unscathed.

[@randomtech4973]

It is a thermal brick

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

From the time when "GTX" wasn't the series, but the suffix meaning the highest in it's bracket above stuff like GT, GTS and GS The 9800 GTX+ was also rebranded into the GTS 250 btw.

[@bartekpekala77]

Shows how big of a leap 200 series was.

[@yalsonnoorcahayapratama3775]

and when FX was a geforce series

[@vamwolf]

You are correct.

[@RikaRikaItsumika]

Omg that was my card until 2011 :0

[@NukE30]

I still have a GTS 250 on my shelf, and it is still working.

[@Iamnicknow]

Do something on the GTX 285, it idles at 200w

[@sandipanplayz7282]

really bro?? 200 Watts. Damn

[@sandipanplayz7282]

@SemperFidelis2006 ok so your youtube display pic moves.

[@mcky_msh]

I bought a GTX 260 c216 and a GTX 285 in a combo deal from a friend. Sold the 285 because I couldn't keep it cool. 260 c216 was 95% performance with 50% the heat. Bizarre.

[@elarmino6590]

Other times, impressive

[@gulfcoaster210]

Many many moons ago I had 3 bfg 285s in tri sli.... What a disaster that was 😂

[@Diceman82]

Honestly surprised how well this old girl did, I seen so many variants of the gt 8000 series chug hard on GTA V and here this card is, flipping them all the middle finger.

[@shadowguardian3612]

Well its basically a refresh of 8800 Gtx ultra on smaller and more efficent node.

[@TheBig451]

@@shadowguardian3612 No. The 9800GTX was just a higher clocked 8800GTS G92, and this is just a higher clocked die shrink of that. G92 is quite different than G80 on the 8800GTX.

[@TrinityAlex]

I used this card from February 2009, for about 200 USD, and used it until 2018, when I got a 1080. Initially it had a 3 year warranty, but EVGA later offered 10 years warranty for it. Though I mainly bought it because of PhysX, if I had known PhysX would become what it is today (irrelevant), I would have probably bought something else. Still, it hold it's ground for almost 10 years, happy customer. Perfect card!

[@asdanjer]

Civ 5 is a "relatively new strategy game"? It is 10 years old. 2 years less than the card. I hope a card can handle a title that came out only 2 years after the cards release.

[@max06250184]

Isn't it the same card as the GTS 250 ?

[@YordaMX]

Yes it is!

[@Treynath84]

I have a GT120 with 1GB of VRAM and mine can barely play WaW, and you can play GTA V. Nice...

[@MozrowDrops]

What settings in WaW?

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

As I have said time and time again. VRAM =/= Performance

[@Treynath84]

Yeah, I know, it's still pretty bad tho...

[@Treynath84]

@@MozrowDrops medium at slightly under 720p.

[@johnkitsi]

Isn't that card also available for the old mac pro ?

[@probablyanadult7354]

8800 gtx reminds me of the polaris rx 480, new architecture with a new node. 9800 gtx is like the rx 580 and this 9800gtx+ is like the rx 590. same architecture but a smaller node.

[@pepre7594]

if only it performed a 590....

[@nickjayr0]

u should do a series about forgotten but still capable GPUs!

[@onometre]

isn't that the entire point of this channel?

[@jjaze9831]

I never see him review gpu's like old fire pro those cards are interesting.

[@hahaiseewhatyouredoing9086]

@@jjaze9831 or old Tesla line. The K series are still great especially if you need a proper 10-bit output.

[@hahaiseewhatyouredoing9086]

@@jjaze9831 But apparently most of those old workstation GPUs are still expensive, considering this guy mostly bought things from sub-$10 category.

[@jjaze9831]

@@hahaiseewhatyouredoing9086 yeah here in ph Some of them are like $200 but some I found around $35.

[@FullyBuffered]

Yeas, the 9800GTX+ ! Back in late 2010 to early 2011 I was running a second hand Q6600/x48 machine with two eVGA 9800GTX+ cards in SLI. I can remember being disappointed when I found out GTA IV didn't support SLI. I sold the cards in late 2011 to a guy who said he wanted to get three of them in SLI and watercool them to play Battlefield 3. I'm still curious how that turned out... Anyhow, great vid! The card seems to have held up quite reasonably just like the the other iterations of this Tesla chip.

[@pcflippin2901]

I can't believe how well these hold up. My second GPU ever was a 8800 GTS 320MB and I was using this for years before finally building a new system. Unfortunately I sold it last year, as you put it there's still quite a high price associated with the 8800 cards. I did pick up a HD 4870 512MB for a fiver a couple of days ago so will be giving that a bash soon - it will be interesting to see how they compare!

[@oldschooldude8370]

Still use this card, an evga with the nice heatsink/fan it came with. Total powerhouse for it's time. It was a 250gts if you overclocked it if I remember correctly and was a hell of a lot cheaper. Crushes Fear on high settings with an x2 and ddr 400 without overclocking. It handles everything 2014 or so and prior.

[@thehman9499]

Funny story: I actually used to use one of these after my dad gave me it, and, surprisingly, i still have it today (i dont use it anymore obviously). Twas an EVGA card and it apparently only had one 6pin connector

[@Wushu-viking]

And they found out later it actually could settle with one 6 pin ;) The OC capability might be better in the 9800 GTX+ over the GTS 250.

[@MrGeurrilla]

At least they didnt change name like "RX 580 - RX 590"

[@Superchad245]

SimCity 4 music threw me off, I'm listening to this video and playing SimCity 4 lol

[@offlinegamer6756]

i had a GTX 9800 back in the day , was cool until the day i tried playing Hitman Absolution on it, man ! she couldn't handle it in most crowded levels, memory limitation , but other than that this cards was worthy the investissement.......but because of Hitman i replaced her with a GTX 660 ...and yes , i had her for almost 6 years , and she served me well ...but man !going from a 9800 to a 660 was like night and day!

[@3dcomrade]

@Dalle Smalhals and they left kepler with no extra optimization now. Sad really, as theyre quite capable actually

[@3dcomrade]

@Dalle Smalhals add game devs pushing new features and wont bother to optimize for older cards. Look at Doom Eternal for example. Its weird seeing there is no huge outrage over it. I know it ran well on AMD cards, but come on thid is gameworks bullshittery taken into the next level

[@ivyflow3r]

nice, i managed to find this video when it was uploaded after 3 minutes

[@sebastiangabriel4421]

14 minutes for me. Cool!

[@fionaneufeld7908]

Ok.

[@Rod_Nyssen]

@ Budget-Builds Official But can it run F.E.A.R.2 in 720P???

[@cobrastomas]

I had a Asus 9800GTX+ dark knight, upgraded from 7300gs, damn It was a good card

[@ShopNo2Vn]

videogood

[@NexusFantismo]

Budget builds official in 2032: Today we are going to look back at the RTX 2080 ti, the forgotten flagship.... At that point we may have quantum computing at home, who knows.

[@WellBeSerious12]

Computers are amazing. No matter how old they get, most still have uses. Mainly older games and emulation. And before that, DOS and native games. And can you do a video on HD 7570 1GB GDDR5 (NOT DDR3 VERSION!)? It's one of the best value low-end cards.

[@Russell970]

forgotten because it is a re-branded piece of junk lol

[@CharcharoExplorer]

That is a refresh, not a rebrand.

[@hardrivethrutown]

you're not wrong, they were pretty unreliable

[@Russell970]

Hey how come i don't get a heart?

[@CharcharoExplorer]

@@Russell970 I give a +1

[@josejuanandrade4439]

It's funny because a) is a refresh, and b) have aged better then their AMD counterpart... so if this is a piece of junk, what would a 4770 be?

[@bena2.014]

Kinda late to the video, but those things can still be found being sold as "high end REALLY GOOD AMAZING ULTRA PERFORMANCE GFORCE NVIDIA GPU" on the Brazilian used market

[@hummel6364]

My first card was an EVGA version of this exact card back in like 2010, and let me tell you that meant I had the best PC among all my friends for quite a few years.

[@GearSeekers]

Let's see the 9800 GX2 ;)

[@GPULibrary]

^

[@hi_tech_reptiles]

I have a Geforcr 8800gts I found in a Mac. Haven't had a chance to actually put it to use yet, but this makes me want to. Does this one take a PcIe power cable or no? Wasn't sure gow much that node shrink helped power consumption lol.

[@MetalY2KMusic]

Shoutout to 13y/o me when I bought a 9800 for my Inspiron 530 and couldn't figure out how to install it so we just sold it lmao

[@solocamo3654]

When you have a oc'ed 6900xt and a 4k monitor but get almost more joy out of this than gaming in 2021.

[@BenState]

Something not mentioned, having had numerous 8 series cards, they all need 100mV bump on core volts and they run 100+ MHz faster without even blinking.

[@DavidJonSpem]

Should have used that new fancy texture streaming feature in cs go

[@joannaatkins822]

KZbin algorithm comment. Honestly I'm too tired to think of anything interesting or insightful

[@smitzw5077]

Then gonna tell your friends you have a gtx. . Ah sorry wrong year

[@will891410]

GTX 1080 TI is still a beast card nowadays.

[@Rainbow__cookie]

Wonder if it's good in 10 years I mean we have alot of good games will people play those in 10 years

[@boxritter]

I have this card.

[@will891410]

@@Rainbow__cookie If you mean the games made until 2025 yes, qafter that the card will start to weaken a lot, as the new games will demand a lot of memory and procesing power along with the new tacnologies written on the new processors.

[@lil_floofer]

I love how you get better performance with that card than me with 8GB of RAM, a 1050ti and in I5 7700HQ I get about 13 fps on very low...

[@SummonerArthur]

Pair this with a C2D or a C2Q and buy some older games on GOG or steam you'll have lots of fun playing good games for cheap

[@sandrocarletto9386]

waiting for my rx 570 to be reviewed by someone in 10 years time

[@artk2219]

Ah man, I had a GTS 250 (which was basically the final rebrand of this card), that i picked up for like 50 bucks in 2011. I picked it up as a physx card that I used alongside my Radeon 6950, and then just kept it as a spare card. Honestly as a backup card it was solid for years, floating around from build to build when i needed to test with something that required a PCIE power cable, and had more grunt than a basic display adapter.

[@jorno1994]

got one of those still. quite a nice card for a retro build.

[@MGlBlaze]

I actually have a GTX 9800+ in my retro PC! Partly because it's slightly better than the 8800, partly because I also have an ATI 9800 Pro (for Windows 98 and other pre-XP titles) and I wanted to be able to meme about how the machine has dual 9800s.

[@MashupsByMandy]

You are probably gonna find weird that this card is still manufactured in Brazil because for some reason people think DDR3 computers need GDDR3 graphics cards and I have no idea where that bullshit started.

[@salvi016]

this is the first ever graphics card i bought in 2010 lasted me until 2014 since it had no dx11

[@slvr_l7732]

wow, i just finish watch first AMD Radeon 2800XT from this channel and this shows up

[@AveragePootis]

Nice video mate, waiting for a another live stream of yours as i have tech based questions to ask you about... again -POTTU98

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Might be streaming some Fable Anniversary tomorrow

[@AveragePootis]

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial that would be brilliant, around the same time as before?

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Id imagine so 👍

[@AveragePootis]

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial excellent, i hope to talk to you tomorrow, good night

[@Kippy8472]

I used to love my 8800gtx, handled battlefield 2 (2005) like champ. Wow I'm getting old 😖

[@eksine]

Wait this is the video card I have now but mine is evga. It's paired with an unlocked phenom ii x2 black 550 which unlocked becomes a phenom ii x4 b50

[@Daraco]

I'm still rocking EVGA 9800 GTX+ on xeon w3565 16gb 1600mhz triple channel XD great to see this card coming up on this channel loved it, btw i get around 158 fps in csgo 1600 x 1200 and it hardly drops at 80fps. Though mine is quite a lot overclocked, and my temps really doesn't exceed 70c.

[@Pulverrostmannen]

I had one of these cards, it ran well until it died, it was replaced with a 285 card which ran a bit better than this until it also died, that was replaced with a 560Ti which ran even better until that also died which was replaced with a 770 card which ran very well which actually last too. but for the 9800+ it was running Crysis well until you got into the snow part and here it did not run Crysis well at all

[@TekMerc]

I used my 9800 GTX+ for many years (until I finally upgraded to a GTX 970) and it was pretty handy. I remember I could play Tomb Raider (2013) at 1080p Medium/High settings at 60 fps.

[@StaelTek]

I wouldn't call the 9800 GTX+ a flagship at the time, as it was released after the GTX 280 which was the new flagship

[@KiltenthTV]

My first gaming graphics card was Zotac 9600GT. And boooy I was playing every game I wanted at something like 1050p or 1060p resolution, can't really remember. It went perfectly until the day I wanted better performance at playing Bioshock 2 and Just Cause 2, so I tried overclocking (I was 16 then, without any overclock knowledge), aaaaannd It got burned. Then we bought AMD (or It was ATI back then, probably) HD 5770, which worked hella fine, till my pc got so old and one day PSU said "thats all folks" and burned whole pc while dying. And of course I didn't know 80+ was a thing in 2007 (the year we first got the pc, before 9600GT), so we had a random 500W PSU in it.

[@Versuffe]

This card: *runs gta V, a demanding game for the GPU and cpu, gets good fps* Also the card: *cant run BEAMNG, a not demanding game* Now I know why BEAMNG isn’t on consoles, it would crash and make the console explode ALSO THE CARD: *runs minecraft like gtaV with a texture pack*

[@FarmerSlideJoeBob]

RIP sticker varranty😆And funnywise I got also an Hauppauge Capture Device😃

[@badATchaos]

I had a 8800GTS and a 9800GTX. Those were so great at the time. I remember running stuff like Crysis on those.

[@frshunter]

And the 590 was not well received either :)

[@nticompass]

I had a 9800 GTX+. I also had a GTS 250, which I learned was a re-badged 9800 GTX+. I tried to re-flash the 9800 GTX+ so I could SLI it with the GTS 250. The re-flash worked, SLI did not...

[@ThatTonybo]

I own a Gigabyte variant of the standard 9800GTX. Just wondering though, should I get a second 9800GTX and run it in SLI, or take a risk and get a HD 4850?

[@RetroAmateur1989]

I had a gtx+ 1Gb. It couldn't run GTA4 at full settings. Now that I think about it, neither my 970 could. Man, GTA4 was a future proofed alright

[@li0ngr33n]

Simcity 4 music? 😃

[@hummel6364]

I played GTA:V on this card with 8GB of DDR2 and an Intel 2 Q6600. Legendary CPU but MAN that game performed horribly even at like 480p or some shit. Just a product of all the hardware being a little underpowered. Oh yeah no Skyrim ran PERFECTLY on this card. I used it until like 2015 for that game.

[@estate-tidus1007]

Didn't some of the EVGA units of these suffer from the 100% fan bug that wasn't easy to fix?

[@khmerkandal121]

"What was it"? A perfect topic for an amazing BBO video :) Stay safe!

[@MerkurioBua]

try not to destroy an overclocked gt 430 next time you'll have a lot of fun :)

[@goqwertygo]

I got a XFX 9800GTX+ for my first gaming pc with a Core 2 Duo E6600. Still have it with the box retired on my shelf.

[@HeheheFier]

Unfortunately not the OEM-BlowerStyle silver-black Design, nur still im very Happy that this Card get's some Attention. ITS the Last of the old Generation Nvidia GPU's (pre280 era). Also funny Story, Back in 2014 i bought a prebuild PC With a 4700k and a Radeon 8950OEM. Nur in desparately wanted a Nvidia GPU because... Im a Green fanboy. Anyway, i bought a 9800gtx+ for 15€. Needless to say It defenetly was powerful, but for me i was disapointed. 3 months after i bough my gtx480 OEM and that beast was more packed With Power. But unless my 480, my 9800gtx+ and my radeon8950 both are still working. (The 9800 paired With a C2Q 8200 3.0ghz oc)... Anyways great Video, and a fair review of a Legendary piece of Nvidia History.

[@frogz]

.....it legitimately makes me sad when this thing spec wise outperforms the hd2400 i bought as an upgrade to my existing system so badly that it would be better off being used for it's fans on a better video card..

[@Crazy_Borg]

I think people just were confused why the flagship card only has 512mb Ram, while the previous flagship modells (8800 GTX & Ultra) had a whopping 768mb. Even if these numbers do not matter much, cause the 9800+ could use the VRAM more efficiently, it was still relevant to buyers back in the day. And the direct compeditor, the AMD 4850, was available with a whole gigabyte of ram. So I blame this on bad marketing. Well, at least nvidia finally realized that VRAM was a huge marketing aspect with the GTX970...

[@CoolTI-Daniel]

At home I have a GTS250... As Legendary as the 8800 Performance was, it didn't age well. Today it's on par with a GT730 Excellent card to build a Retro Windows XP station tho. At work we also have a GTX280, my boss asked me if this is still any good, I told him way too much power for too little performance in today's standards.

[@apocalipsenerd]

I had a 3D Club 9800GTX+ back in the day and it was a blast. Just unfortunate it was too early for directx11 otherwise it would have been even better.

[@thisisashan]

Now do the FX series :P One of the few era's ATI overtook Nvidia. Pixel shader 2.0 was basically what Raytracing is now to gfx cards. :P

[@TeraByte38]

I think the naming goes like this: GT - Well, GT 🤷 GTS - GT Super GTX - GT eXtreme GTX+ - GT eXtreme PLUS

[@Zujanbre]

I had a 8800GTS and playing HD videos caused it to stutter. I remember trying to run Heroes 6 and it struggled on low. Darksiders ran on AMD x1600 but was unplayable on the 8800GTS.

[@rosenscharf]

So glad you're putting out more videos again.

[@Warbob11]

I have my PNY GTX 9800+ I pulled from a Asus Striker Extreme 1 build I picked up in 2014. Guy finally retired his 2008 - 2009 build it was a very nice build but all I wanted was that GPU. Did end up parting out the components from that build to people who needed them or wanted them at least.

[@gladstonesfullysickestturb2605]

i have an office laptop from 2019 (RYZEN 3 3200u with VEGA 3 graphics) and it runs gta 5 720p normal settings with an average or about 20-23fps 🤣🤣

[@DavidKing-wk1ws]

I still use a zotac 610i running both Windows 98 and Windows Xp. This is not a dual boot system. However i decided to go with an Acard 9010 ddr ram ssd. The drive is only 32gb and only 27gb useable but when you are using software everything seems instant. It also allows for backup of the installed os, on a 32gb flash card. So i turned my pc into something from the 80s, being i install only certain programs on different flash cards making it like a cartridge system :)

[@shreksmemelab]

He sounds like sparkles, if his steam account would get banned

[@nikolakarovic5964]

I think that gts250 1gb had same chip with more Oc. It was sad time for Nvidia fans. Nvidia was renaming same cards every year. It went so far that I had Clevo 860tu laptop with gtx280m that was renamed gts250 1gb essentialy. Nvidia allso aged bad dont forget that they cant push audio trought Hdmi without aditional cable.

[@aleksandur240]

hi again. i did find out my cpu was thermal throttling. in fact, it was thermal throttling at idle with nothing running! and, i am currently underclocking it down to 2.3 ghz, which achieved me a way better frame rate. now, though, i have a question: whats the best agp 8x graphics card that supports dx9 or dx10? i have an athlon running at 1 ghz (i have no idea what athlon it is exactly, but i think its the same socket as another athlon that runs at 3.6 ghz. the socket is 462 or A, i believe) and have 512 mbs of ram on it, however im planning to stuff another 512 mbs or get 2 1gb sticks running at 400 mhz. is it even worth it to upgrade it? maybe it could be better to just track down the case and motherboard and buy the same exact parts i dont want to replace and leave this one untouched. i also did try putting an ati radeon 9250 into it, as an upgrade to finally put the geforce2 mx400 into a box to collect dust, but it sadly seems to be dying, with artifacts everywhere :(.

[@JETWTF]

I have twin EVGA 9800 GTX+ cards sitting on a shelf collecting dust along with the SLI bridge. Last blower cooler cards I ever used and they worked great for years.

[@piecatcher4159]

I mean. I have two of these GTX+. They work to this day, both have 512mb. Worked in SLI at the time. Both were replaced with a 285 GTX+ With a gig of ram a couple years later.

[@jericosangbaan4688]

Maan i never had these, i the rebranded gts250, lasted me for good 3 years, OC'd the hell out of it until i see particles. Then upgraded to a pre owned GTX680 , another 4 years the currently on GTX1070ti GPUs have come a long way indeed,

[@aaronpartida6692]

I had the Performance Edition one and it caught on fire - PNY 9800GTX+ ruined the card. Worked for years though, I kept it in a core 2 duo machine to play Windows XP games for a long time.

[@951258tike22]

ahhh nostalgia blast! 2008 was the first year i got seriously into modern computer hardware and this gpu was the hottest new thing at the time. I remember lusting after an SLI rig with these baddies to run CoD World at War maxed out in full HD. Meanwhile the phat ps3 was doing very well in it's own right to completely enthrall my 14 year old self :)