Nvidia's Misleading GPU - The 8400GS...

[@SZALDOWAR]

FROBOT!!

[@2500hd_idk]

Rincyy ok 👍

[@jimtekkit]

Dat Boi, before it was a meme.

[@ethograb]

Is there a high quality image of this box art somewhere it would make a great wallpaper.

[@mish1195]

frobot is our lord and savior

[@SZALDOWAR]

ethograb there is, just google “frobot palit”

[@OneCosmic749]

You should have paired this with a Celeron D for some ultimate gaming experience.

[@AcornElectron]

One Cosmic ☺️

[@AcornElectron]

Pinchie Alarm step one, select that gpu step two, shit computer

[@DragonsIayer182]

I had this card + a celeron D back in the day. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@Celeron_619]

I have a old Dell Optiplex with a Celeron D and a PCI 8400 GS 8 core version. Would be interesting.

[@wtfman-k3g]

it needs the d

[@redroseFPS]

The packaging is probably more expensive that the GPU itself

[@AlistairBrugsch]

*the postage (did he say it was £3 delivered?)

[@johnwilson2288]

how do you know that

[@Solbady]

I feel for the guy who was sold the 8400GS over the 6800 for the exact same reason. Back in 2009 I was sold a 9800 GT over a GTX 280 because "bigger number is better!"

[@Churchgrimm]

I have to wonder if most salespeople who say stuff like that are doing so out of intent to deceive or just genuine ignorance, or somehow both.

[@_Moth_.]

@@Churchgrimmin the case of maplin at least, they are notorious in the UK for price gouging and terrible advice.

[@retrogeek4372]

Could have been worse. Like a Geforce 7100GS.

[@test-ne6gf]

I bet you`re the kind of person who [if American] when you were a little kid, your big brother successfully convinced you to trade him his nickel for your dime because "bigger is better". ;-)

[@Dimondminer11]

oof

[@nexhep]

Well, I can see why so many of these caught fire. People were trying to do crazy things with it like, oh I don't know... emulate the PS2. 🤣

[@starlordyt6151]

How's the performance?

[@TheSpotify95]

@@starlordyt6151 Given that emulating a Gamecube required having to use a lower resolution than the Gamecube itself, and given that my Acer Aspire (from 2011 - i5 480M) with integrated graphics could not even emulate a PS1 very well, I doubt this thing can emulate a PS2.

[@jokerzwild00]

@@TheSpotify95 Honestly it depends on the CPU it's paired with. PS2 emulation is very CPU intensive, I could see it running full speed, 1x resolution, no extras with a decent processor and ram.

[@RobertJeffersonBased]

@@TheSpotify95 How can your computer not emulate the PS1? My raspberry pi 3 b can.

[@TheSpotify95]

@@RobertJeffersonBased the Acer Aspire had a built in overheating issue which would not allow anything CPU intensive. My current laptop, a HP 15-ac153sa, runs PS1 emulation just fine. Probably need my gaming laptop for reliable PS2 emulation though

[@johnygiant]

I've had PCs with FX5200 and the 8400 GS and still managed to game At 7 fps average

[@bricebeaurepaire8862]

Same here, I had a PC with a FX5200 and switched it for a 8400GS i bought on a garage sale for like 20€

[@VolumeZero374]

its in my laptop and i play gmod at 120 fps

[@DarkWiNKenzo]

I mean, i still have a FX8120 with an (AMD) Asus Radeon HD 7600 OC’ed, and i still get pretty decent averages with "modern titles" such as 30 FPS on War thunder all high, gta 5 runs at a respectable 36 FPS when i am being moderate, and games like Overwatch ? 60fps medium, all that with a 900p monitor (AKA the recommended resolution for the card)

[@Blox117]

intel HD graphics: guys look, im not so bad after all!

[@sragveesatluri4961]

@@bricebeaurepaire8862 I'm 90% sure that's a ripoff

[@amp888]

"Nvidia's Misleading GPU"

[@thomaskelly2108]

@Pinchie Alarm pretty decent gpu, it was just marketed as a 4GB card despite being 3.5GB. There was a large lawsuit regarding this.

[@AlfaPro1337]

The 970 has 4 gigs, just when hitting the defective memory controller on the last 512 megs, it slows or not, this is all depending on the silicon lottery.

[@arkplaysgame3826]

@@AlfaPro1337 yeah it kinda tank when the wrm usage is above 3.5 gb if not its a great card a friend of mine still have it

[@yubos98]

970 is still one of the best GPUs to be ever produced. In late 2014 it was king and 512 mb of slower memory didn't cause issues at all. In fact it didn't cause issues at all throughout it's lifecycle so yeah, Nvidia may have put half a gb of slower memory into the 970, but it was legendary at how great it performed, don't even try to compare it to this turd.

[@ABaumstumpf]

The GTX 970 has 4 GB and no, no memory-controller is "defective". One L2-cache-block is disabled leaving 2 MCs going through the same cache, which means the 3.5GB and the 0.5Gb can not be doing the same operation at the same time. The lawsuit was becuase their marketing-department initially gave out wrong informations about the number of ROPS and amount of cache.

[@XEROXAYUKI]

I think i had this gpu...before i knew anything about gpu

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Sounds about right

[@fiturry]

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial i remember i had this gpu to do an "upgrade" to my 7200 GS,,,,, since the performance increase was so small i learned my first big lesson in GPUs... never trust the marketing numbers and more VRAM didnt mean better performance

[@Nick-ue7iw]

@@fiturry Same.

[@lunear9989]

Nick me as well

[@Mini-z1994]

​@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Had a 8300 gs laying around i messed about with overclocking via nvinspector a few years back. (Much larger sliders going beyond what the gpu can be stable at while i could max out the sliders in msi afterburner on the card just fine heh, same with the nvidia 8500 gt i got in my testrig atm.) If i recall correctly it went from around 10k points in 3dmark too around 13.7k points in 3dmark 2001se The 8300 gs is very much similar too the 8400 gs version with 8 cuda cores but 128 mb vram instead. Meanwhile something like the Nvidia 8500 gt does 19.9k points on stock settings. (439 mhz core, 333 mhz ram, 918 mhz shader clock.) In my core 2 duo @ 4ghz pc here and goes up too 27k points with an overclock too 730 mhz core 420 mhz ram & 1600 mhz shader clock. and yes its 2001se ofc i did this test with.

[@GamingVideoFHD]

Three different cards is not confusing compared to other thing about this card. GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3 uses GT218 graphics core which is used AT 28 DIFFERENT cards. All these cards have exactly same GT218 core (16 Sharder units/ 8 TMU/ 4 ROP) just have different memory and clock configuration. There is list of them all: Desktop cards: GeForce 205 OEM GeForce 210 GeForce 210 Rev. 2 GeForce 310 OEM GeForce 315 OEM GeForce 405 OEM GeForce 505 OEM GeForce 8400 GS PCI GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3 GeForce 9300 GS Rev. 2 GeForce 9400 GT Rev. 3 GeForce G210 OEM Rev. 2 NVS 300 Quadro FX 380 LP Mobile cards: GeForce 305M GeForce 310M 1024 MB, DDR3 606 MHz (core) 667 MHz (memory) GeForce 310M 512 MB, DDR3 625 MHz (core) 790 MHz (memory) GeForce 310M 512 MB GDDR3 625 MHz (core) 800 MHz (memory) GeForce 315M GeForce 405M GeForce G105M 512 MB DDR3 , 535 MHz (core) 790 MHz (memory) GeForce G105M 256 MB GDDR3, 500 MHz (core) 700 MHz (memory) GeForce G210M ION ION 2 NVS 2100M NVS 3100M Quadro FX 380M This is what is what I am calling "confusing"

[@francistheodorecatte]

GamingVideoFHD oh so that's why the GPU in my ThinkPad T430s (Quadro NVS 2100m) is such a potato

[@BeefJerky4104]

Great comment dude!

[@warrax111]

I dont see a problem here. same core can be used in more cards, as they can set it in different configurations. like memory bus width, types of memory, and frequency. also OEM cards dont count. those are special. so it was used for retail users (that's what you are buying) only in GT210 and 8400GS rev3. Quadro is also workstation card, and almost every core have its Quadro variant. So you are trying to be important, while, when you look at table, what are retail cards, user normaly came accross, only GT210 and 8400GS rev.3 remains, as mentioned in video.

[@steventechno]

I have what may be a Rev 2 that was built by "Galaxy" that I got sometime at the end of 2008/early 2009. It was better than whatever iGPU I had before, but still bottlenecked my Phenom 9750 I had in my OG build. That doesn't mean I didn't play games, which I did. The poor thing struggled to get a barely playable 720p experience in most games I played in 2009, such as Gmod, TS3, Prototype and a few others. I have it on a shelf as I made invaluable memories with it. not to mention it was part of my first build. Even though i'll never use it again, It's nice to still have something from my first ever build from late high school days, ya know?

[@LeadHeadBOD]

6:24 - one of such people was me! Still was rocking the 8400 around 2016,no idea which rev I had (had no idea the revisions were even a thing). Hell, I even played earlier versions of the game on a Pentium 4 (albeit one of the more powerful ones). Seeing those chunky 20fps brings back so many memories. I did play at 640x480 however with everything absolutely turned to the lowest, some maps were entirely playable and some positions you could even get a pretty solid 50fps... that is unless smoke grenades started flying around of course. With all that, I still was able to get pretty far in the competitive ranked mode. What killed it for me was that I was still on a 32-bit system. They updated the map de_nuke to the version that still holds to this day and it was way more graphically intensive. After about 10 rounds, I had to ask my team to pause, restart and reconnect to the game, otherwise it would hard crash with an out of memory error which would actually take longer to get back into. And so the map basically became unplayable and the performance kept getting worse every update, so I had to call it quits at one point.

[@DanielC2LS]

OMG! i feel the pain you had to go throw to benchmark it. I bet that dislike its still an owner of this GPU.

[@alexandrosnaoum1318]

The G86 (8400GS and 8600GS) for laptops (M siries) where notorius for the failures. So many laptop vendors fell to the trap.

[@freyattila]

Just happened to have a 8400GS rev.2 512 gddr3 paired with a Celeron D, the card was supposed to be an upgrade over a 7600GS some moons ago, turned out to be more like a downgrade.

[@Radovanslav]

I believe you meant months, not moons :-)

[@RWL2012]

@@Radovanslav he probably meant moons. it's a saying

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

That sounds like a prebuilt sold on "With 2.8 GHz Intel Processor and DirectX 10 nVidia Graphics!"

[@freyattila]

@@HappyBeezerStudios Was a custom build by me focusing on low cost at first, later got some decent parts to it like 4 gigs of ddr2, a 4670 hd 512mb and overclocking the cpu to 3.8 ghz. Some of the later overclocking adventures came at a cost of requiring more cooling and a few replacement PSU's.

[@sjogosPT]

I had a 7600GS (AGP), and was a nice card. Replaced a dead ati 9600xt on my aging athlon xp 2500. At time i feelt the speed difference. Played games like lineage 2, silent hill 3, need for speed underground 2/most wanted, all run pretty well. Ofc iam talking about windows XP computer and 1024x768 resolution, that was the common resolution at time.

[@bigpierogi]

Our king has returned, Frobot

[@ryanmalin]

Great video!! And cool Robot! I loved the artwork that used to come with GPUs. My last old school GPU was a Radeon HIS HD5770 IceQ 5 Turbo 1GB. I bought it to play Race 07 which is a sim racing game from Sim Bin. I had a Logitech Driving Force GT steering wheel and a 32 inch LCD TV that my cousin found in the trash. I had a Intel Pentium 4 @3.06GHZ single core with hyperthreading. That computer ran great!

[@FullyBuffered]

Ha that's fascinating, I really wasn't aware this card was actually released three times under the same freaking name! I'm actually quite surprised how they kept that same name with the 2010 update, over three years after the initial release. If only they would re release the GT1030 this year as the 8400GS rev 4 :D

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

I need a custom BIOS Flash just for the meme

[@addasahmad6599]

Dude! not only do you have quality vids, but You also have a soothing voice and nice music. Keep up the great work!

[@lionfire3359]

Truth be told brother. I ca ome here for only the mesmerizing English voice.

[@mgDuckyyy]

Got one of these for Christmas. Asked for the beastly 8600GT But my dad thought the 8400 would suffice. Battlefield 2142 at minimum settings and under 30fps. 2008 was a bad year for me :(

[@GinsengStrip-wt8bl]

Learned that hard way too in 2008. When your parents think "it will suffice" that means it won't do the job. Piece of junk.

[@arrowflashbr]

My experience with the 8400GS wasn't too bad. Back in 2008 I was building a new PC and purchased an 8400GS as a stopgap for a few months while I was saving money to buy a 9800GTX+ together with a 1440x900 monitor (the motherboard had no built-in graphics so I needed a display adapter card, and the video card in my old computer was AGP so I couldn't just use that). My 8400GS was a rev1 G86 model with 512 MB of DDR2 memory, built by ECS. It was a retail version and came in actually pretty nice and well-made packaging for such a budget card. The 8400GS ran games better than I expected. Paired with a Core 2 Duo E8500, I remember being able to play Quake 4, Doom 3, FEAR, FarCry and GTA San Andreas on it and getting 60 fps at 1024x768 with medium settings, and even high settings in a few games. It certainly wasn't as terrible as most KZbin videos and reviews make it seem to be. Maybe it was the fact that it was a G86, or something particular to my setup, or maybe I just won the silicon lottery in this case. After a few months when I completed my new setup, I sold the 8400GS to a coworker for 50 bucks. He seemed pretty satisfied with it.

[@warrax111]

yes, because you've used card, for what it was meant... for lighter gaming, and playing old games. Doom 3 , quake 4, fear, far cry... those are games from around 2004 or 2005. and card was released in early 2007. so you played 2-3 years old games. and that's how lowend graphics always worked. they could handle 3 year old games perfectly fine. and now look at this mental athlete in video. He buy card from 2007... and play GTA V on it (2015), Crysis (most demanding late 2007 game, that is like average game from 2009), etc...

[@Petar321_GT]

Beta 2012 CSGO runs fine on 800x600, new one wont even start on my variant.

[@JP-nx5sc]

Yeah it runs so bad on my pc I may as well start using a crt monitor lmao

[@Petar321_GT]

@@JP-nx5sc I daily drive my first CRT even with a newer card, its pretty good!

[@stevelalancette6988]

I really like this new channel. I'm not into 'PC master race' and this kind of videos suit me well.

[@crayonmunch]

Swear I seem to wait all week for your vids, like I do forget but then it shows up in my feed and im immediately watching it! Keep it up :)

[@bort900]

I used one in a hackintosh for a while to get multi monitor. Since Apple shipped the 8400GS as the low power GPU on the macbooks, driver support was very good for getting a 8400GS to work in hackintosh. Very nice Video!

[@SummonerArthur]

I had one of these and... I actually liked it. Even if I paid a very bad price for it back then (but not the full price for sure) it gave me a lot of fun, since it ran games waaaaaaaay better than my VIA Chrome 9, and if I'm not mistaken, mine had 512mb vram, so I had a better experience than yours. Ran NFS U2 and minecraft in it for a loong time. Sadly, but also thanks god, mine stopped working just 2 days after I had bought a gt430. Mine looked exactly like yours, but mine had a black board and was a zotac if I'm not mistaken.

[@Fender178]

I have one of these cards and they are excellent for troubleshooting PCs because of the low power requirement. Also another good thing about the card is that it has the common video ports (VGA,DVI and HDMI) Also they are good for Home Theater PCs as well. My version has 512mb of VRAM though.

[@haqiem4010]

I remember using this along with Pentium E5700 and Nvidia 8400GS. Miss it

[@rolando1259]

My old pc had that cpu and gpu mix and 4 gigs of ram ddr3. Actually great. Finally it broke, i use a pentium dual core e2200, e8400gs and 4 gigs of ram ddr3, and the same hdd lol and i changed the case.

[@haqiem4010]

@@rolando1259 same

[@BeefJerky4104]

Yesterday I was actually in my work's IT equipment storage room and was looking though a box of old graphics cards we keep as back-ups. You can bet there were some 8400GS' in there along with some other low end cards, from both NVIDIA and AMD. It's an office environment though, so obviously we don't have the need for gaming cards. We just keep them in stock in case one of the premade systems around the office needs a replacement card dropped in.

[@haroldwillsoon6442]

I love the videos where you test these old forgotten cards, awesome stuff!

[@RonJohn63]

I had a *fanless* 8400GS Rev 2 for ages, and have been using a *fanless* GT210 for a few years. They've all been *completely adequate for my tasks.* Soon I'm going to get the urge to install a *fanless* GT730. To buy an actively cooled version of one of these cards is insane.

[@warrax111]

i got rid of passive ones, because they takes up 2 slots, they need to have big heatsink. i collect only active versions. they are smaller and 1slot high.

[@RonJohn63]

@@warrax111 everyone has priorities.

[@davejnathan10]

On the box : "Play it, Tweak it, Get more out of it." It sounded like a sarcasm rather than advertisement

[@marinhaalternativa3829]

Here in Brasil, some ppl still selling the GT9800 with prices as high as a GTX550

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

I use one in a retro PC for early 2000s games, the ubiquity of the card in prebuilts makes them pretty easy to come by as people are throwing them out now. I've ended up with two from friends downsizing their old web-browsing PCs.

[@dbozan99]

Did you know that the 2004 version of the HL2 Engine supports DirectX 6? Later versions limited it to 7, then 8, as minimums IIRC. Launch the game with the "+mat_dxlevel 60" parameter to force DX 6, 70 for DX 7, etc. Check out the Valve developer wiki titled "DirectX Versions" for more info about the different features supported in each version.

[@davependragon1]

Do you live with the Randomgamingguy?

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Yes

[@adwaitagnome]

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Correct

[@RWL2012]

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial really...?

[@aisaryu142]

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial seriously????

[@nahpets2345]

Even the GT 210 is still being sold on the new market. I don't get it. These cards like this from the video need to stop.

[@prithvigill3827]

Not everyone can afford gt 710 so they buy gt 210 xD

[@Radovanslav]

@@prithvigill3827 that's funny because here it only costs ~$5 more max over the 710 which isn't much cheaper than the 730 which then is fairly close to the G5 1030, just close enough to make all of those cards (except for the 1030) look irrelevant lol

[@memmoman]

@@prithvigill3827 I was about to buy a new GT 710 back in 2017 when i didn't know anything about GPUs. Ended up buying a used GTX 750 Ti

[@RonJohn63]

(1) Not everyone games. (2) Lots of people like silence better than fan noise.

[@letto18]

GT210 still sold new here in Canada, Canada Computers got a MSI 1GB GDDR3 GT 210 for $60 with the GT 710 costing $15+ more starting at $75 for the 1GB GDDR5 or DDR3 version with the 2GB version going up to $80 then the GT 1030 takes over starting at $120, instead I bought a used Radeon HD 7750 off my local classifieds for $20

[@jdmking4776]

So I actually have owned 2 varieties of this card and I have to say, I hate this card. When I was younger back in 2012 I remember buying this card because it was one of the cheapest cards I could convince my mom to buy. I remember being so excited to get this card, but it was a huge disappointment. It worked well with minecraft because that was what I was into at the time. But it struggled with things even as old as star wars battlefront 2. I should mention, I did overclock it at one point and it did end up well, up in flames, quite literally. Well it didn't catch on fire, but a bunch of white smoke came out of the case and the card was pretty much toast... Anyways, that was my experience with the 8400GS. In the end I'm still convinced that GS standed for GIANT SHIT.

[@weak1ings]

I used this card for gaming for 3-4 years of my life growing up then I got a MASSIVE UPGRADE to a GT 520. It literally doubled my framerate!

[@mradminus]

@Budget-Builds Official What a lovely tech channel I found, you're very knowledgeable and test things that normal people can relate to(not just the top of the line).

[@zinkpopovitch9519]

6:40 Damn, Lego City Undercover looks sweet!

[@RetroArcadeGuy]

"The higher the numbers, the better" It's me or people didn't learn from the FX series, eh...?

[@tomstech4390]

Ignorance is bliss.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Or the Pentium 4

[@Zestyclose-Big3127]

I mean, many of those events would've been concurrent with AMD's FX CPUs (wasn't exactly there for Nividia's FX) so...

[@drkRoss89]

I remembered having this card when I bought a Packard Bell with a C2D E4500, 2GB of RAM with this abomination inside it. How that thing managed to run Team Fortress 2 amazes me. Having said that, I replaced it soon after that with a 9600GT (DDR 2) and was a significant improvement.

[@cstubed]

For some reason (i think i had the Rev 2) at 1024x768 (i had crt back then) i remember having playable performance at all games even at medium back then at 2008. Probably had to do with the fact that Windows XP didn't use the VRam to accelerate Windows performance.

[@automanium4563]

Hey Budgetbuilds do the emachine series

[@williampaabreeves]

For Civilization V you should try stategic view, as that vastly simplifies the graphics and might make it playable, its the little tiles icon next to the minimap

[@Petman1325]

I remember buying an 8400GS for my Pentium 4 because I didn't know too much about computers at that point and it was one that was still compatible with PCI. I later rectified it by getting a Radeon HD 4670 for the AGPx8 slot, and that was a radical change.

[@MLWJ1993]

Oh wow, something my iGPU finally *can* beat D:

[@tilburg8683]

It could Also beat a GT710 depending on which one you have.

[@texemplarstudios5481]

Mark Jacobs what igpu is it

[@UrokLizard]

Nobody noticed the graphics glitch at 7:03 ? "GTA 5 sort of runs... just not very well" then big ol graphics glitch

[@WolfCoder]

2:09 Slippy Toad? Is that you?

[@Nimta]

Hang on, I think I recognize that card by appearance... Could that card from 10 years ago have been an 8400GS? Sounds about right, even from the very short amount of time that I had it and knew what I was looking at during posting

[@jeyendeoso]

I have an old 8400gs here, its also a Palit card, although i think its a 1st gen (G84, 80nm), 512mb DDR2. The heatsink and fan, even the fan connector is very similar to the one you have. But mine is a full height card, green pcb. How i got this card? very simple, they just sell it to customers who have no idea what they're buying. Young me buying my 2nd pc (around 2008) just saw that it had a discrete gpu, Nvidia, thats gotta be ok, right? Oh how i was very wrong. But since i was coming out of an ancient computer , the difference was night and day.I remember it could run half life 2 low 720p at something like 30fps, and one of my favorite games, Bioshock, it really struggled. But i was mostly playing games from that era and before, such as half life 1 and counterstrike 1.6.Then after 1 year or so, a frend of mine sold his 8600gt gddr3 and wow, the difference once again was night and day. I still have the little thing, feel kinda bad throwing it away. I have been playing with some old hardware recently, and put together an old pc with random parts that i have laying around (phenom II x3, 4gb ddr2 ram, 8400gs) and the thing can run Valley benchmark at the lowest setting and 720p at a whopping 3.8fps (average), 2.6fps (min) and 6fps (max).Overclocking it to 600mhz, maxing out the sliders in Afterburner, yelds in Valley: 4.3 avg fps, 2.9 min fps, 7 max fps.I would like to test it with more games, but I havent had the time and patience to download and install more things in it.

[@aerohk]

Oh I remember this thing. It was a cool card.

[@bibhuranjannath3418]

There was an 1GB variant of this if I'm not mistaken.

[@firenado4295]

nvidia's way of saying "we can't have dirty garbage can we"

[@letto18]

GT210

[@Kykof]

www.alza.cz/gainward-8400gs-1gb-ddr3-d201814.htm sorry its in czech but u can clearly see that there is 1gb vram

[@3dcomrade]

@@letto18 have one replaced it

[@esthergennn]

Yep! I had a passively cooled Asus model with 1GB DDR3 memory. It was a turd. I didn't know any better back then. I learned. My next card was a HD 6970 lol

[@Alex-tz1hu]

I had an 8400GS back in 2011. I can't remember much except that it had 1GB of VRAM, the shop assistant assured me that it would be a big improvement over my integrated i3 graphics, which it kinda was. I was only playing WoW and Starcraft BW. I remember running WoW (Wrath of the Lich King expansion) on 1280x1024 (basically monitor resolution) and everything on low. It used to pull around 40-50 FPS most of the times, going down to 20-30 in cities and raids (places with many players and effects). I had that GPU up to Cataclysm where I had to downscale the resolution to get an average of 30 FPS but it would stutter in cities. Even now I remember when I switch to a laptop that had an 840m (needed one for school) and running the game at medium-high details @ 1080p with around 60 fps and I was stunned how good WoW looked and ran.

[@johngregorios3888]

Always on a lookout for new videos 🤟

[@I430VX]

I bought a PCI 8400gs (Rev. 3, GT218, 512MB DDR3) for my Compaq Deskpro EN not too long ago. It works really well in that system. It was basically the fastest PCI card i could find that both didn't cost a fortune and also was available to even buy. It is most weird seeing a Pentium III system running the Windows Aero feature, but here we are. It is a passively cooled model, but i stuck a fan on there and wired it into the CPU fan connector. Unfortunately the SFF model I have didnt have AGP, thus the need for PCI. IIRC, the "full tower" Deskpro ENL is the one that has an AGP slot.

[@barbunicolae2711]

This paired with Celeron D, what a perfectly balanced system it could be! ATI/AMD has their own version, the Radeon HD 5450/6230/7350/8350 or R5 220, all on the same architecture and the same specs with loads of memory type, capacity or bandwidth combinations.

[@Petar321_GT]

I think a c2d would do

[@exaltedb]

Barbu Nicolae I can actually pull that system off as I own both

[@rafee9442]

I had the Quadro cousin of that card, the FX 370

[@Howch125]

I have one of these beasts, an Asus 512mb version. It was given to me for free by the local computer shop when they did an assembly for me and the card I gave them did not want to play ball. It has a blower design cooler and is the loudest card I have ever heard at idle!

[@pastasos]

Had this in my XPS m1330 I used it to run Skyrim and Trackmania and Half life. I didn't know what variant in it but I had a jolly good time using it. Also, Budget builds, if You can get your hand on that laptop. I'd suggest you keep an eye on temps. It's a capable laptop, but it has some overheating issues.

[@rebelwolf72]

Don't forget the great 8800 GTS. It really was a great card at the time.When I got mine they had a 640 mb version & a 320 mb version.I had the 320 mb & played Crysis just fine on medium.THEN they came out with a 8800 GT , it was thinner ( 1 slot ) & actually more powerful than the GTS.After that they came out with ANOTHER 8800 GTS , but this was a 512 mb version & was more powerful than either of the first GTS's or the GT.

[@JavoCover]

This was my first GPU and I did played Crysis with it. 1280x720, all settings low and 800x600 in some areas. 25-40 FPS so completely playable with extreme OC. My system hardware at that time was: (early 2008) -Core 2 Due e4500 -2x 1GB DDR2 667 (not dual channel, I was a rookie I didn't knew) -Asrock wolfdale 1333 d667 -160GB HDD -Nvidia 8400GS (400Mhz) 512MB ddr2 (800Mhz) 64bit (EVGA or PNY I don't remember) I adapted a big aluminum AMD CPU cooler (surface was like a 2.5" drive, rectangular box), cutted some holes with a dremel to fit the GPU pcb, the whole thing was enough to cool the GPU chip and 2 memory chips (a cutted cooler fin between memory and cooler to fill a gap) at the same time, I adapted the small cooler that came with the card too cool the back side memory chips. Overclocked the thing to 920Mhz stable (950Mhz peak crush), memory to 950Mhz and voltaje I don't remember but was a bit. Temperatures where around 75 -80 Celsius for GPU. I cutted the sideplate of the case to fit a 12cm fan, added a 8cm fan to front cover. Everything was cheap so the sound was like a damn airplane in my room LoL. Now, 12 years later I see that 400Mhz to 950Mhz was a freaking huge OC and an excellent binned chip, it was my first computer so I didn't knew very well what I was doing. With the info of this video I can say I had a Rev.1 because I member it having 16 cores, I don't know what overclocking software I was using but it had only 3 sliders. It may seem like an impossible overclock but I remember the thing really well as they wher my first experiences with computers and I was really glad I could play videogames on my first computer. Good old times of my childhood.

[@KokoroKatsura]

you gotta include win waker benchmarks in the future as well! got win waker back in christmas 2oo3

[@bertnijhof5413]

I used the 8400GS from 2015 till May 2019. I had version 3 with the G218, 16 CUDA cores and 1GB :) I bought it locally in Santiago de los Caballeros. In the end its 1" fan stopped working and the temps did go up to 80°C for the normal display adapter stuff. It did even play some Linux games, like SuperTuxKart and Extreme Tux Racer. But those games also run in a Virtualbox Virtual Machine (VM) with 3D acceleration enabled on my new desktop. On my 2200G Host the VM generates a GPU load between 35% and 75% by a vram size of ~680 MB. The display is 1680 x 1050 at 60Hz.

[@honkhonkler7732]

I bought one to put in an ancient '90s PC maximum upgrade project because there was a PCI version. Also have a slocket 370 adapter in it with a Tualatin 1.2Ghz Celeron and 768MB of RAM.

[@traytoncrockernichols9425]

Hey would you be willing to do a review on the not so known version of the gtx 460, the 768mb version? i personally have one and i think it would suprise you in what it can do

[@CapriciousBibekk]

Got an inno 3d 1gb ddr3 8400gs rev3 myself, I was clueless as this was my 1st gpu purchase and the options I was given were, do you want a 1gb or 2gb graphics card

[@TheNiteNinja19]

And now in early 2021 with a graphics card shortage, this is probably all that's available now.

[@adwaitagnome]

The only experience I have with this graphics card is a negative one. Was in my first PC build (all parts sourced from the dump ~2012, Pentium D CPU, 512MB RAM, 40GB Drive, LiteON 300W PSU) Was not even able to install XP before the graphics card crapped out

[@RWL2012]

"Maplin sold me an 8400GS over a 6800 back in the day because they told me that the higher the number, the better the graphics card" - ahh that, luckily I know that's not the case and will be upgrading from a 6200 to a 5900 in my Athlon XP PC!

[@rebelwolf72]

The first number is the generation , the last 3 digits are the tier number ( at that time anyway , now the first 2 are generation & last 2 are tier )So the 8400GS is 2 generations newer ( 8000 series vs 6000 series ) , but a lower tier card ( 400 vs 800 )

[@ben7k]

I had one of these. er... make that two, the first one stopped working. I only got them as my motherboard at the time only supported pcie gen 1 cards. Yeah I really didn't know what I was doing when I got that PC. I have no idea what versions of the card I owned though. I suspect it was an early revision given the pcie situation. Anyway, you live and learn. I still enjoyed the 4 years I spent with that PC.

[@miguelque9102]

The very first revision of 8400GS did support GDDR3, from Zotac and a few other manufacturers that were crazy enough.

[@jaklawrence4301]

The UK became a little better the day Maplin closed all their physical stores. I used to go in there for a laugh occasionally to see what the stupidest recommendation I got was. That said, someone wearing a 'Tech Guys' shirt in Currys asked me what a graphics card was once. I suppose you can't expect much or any knowledge when you pay minimum wage and give no benefits!

[@BudgetBuildsOfficial]

Was genuinely curious about what Optane was offering in terms of performance in Laptops. Fella in Currys kept harking on about it, when i asked what it actually did he searched in on google and read me the wikipedia article

[@TheRealWALLABI]

To this day I still have a G86-based 8400M GS in my acer laptop that I've had for 16 years. For the past 8 years I've been using it as a home-theater system, connected to my TV. I upgraded the CPU (from an abysmally-bad Pentium Dual Core T2310 1.46 ghz to a somewhat decent but clearly obsolete Core 2 Duo T7700 2.4 ghz. I also upgraded the ram from 2 to 4 gb of ddr2 and replaced the slow hdd with a cheap ssd. It does the job and runs Windows 10 fine. I had no issues playing online videos at 1080p or decoding dvds and blurays. Of course it's not intended for gaming in any way whatsoever, but it's been pretty much permanently turned on 24/7 for several years and still going strong.

[@Spikehead777]

My first PC back in 2008 was an HP and I bought a PNY 8400 GS (I don't know the exact specs off hand) to give it a discrete graphics card in it instead of the stock Intel HD iGPU. For the most part, it gave me the ability to play World of Warcraft and a few other games with double digit framerates for the first time (my parents' PC was an even older Dell that couldn't support discrete graphics), but it was a few years later when I noticed I was getting some exceedingly hot temperatures with the card and I saw the heatsink and fan was wobbling on the GPU itself. I binned the card and got a new Galaxy GT240 and a more powerful PSU about a week later. I still have the old PNY 8400 GS in a drawer somewhere, but I have no use for it.

[@Petar321_GT]

Holy shit, i have one of those! 256mb gddr2 My first card. I could run modern warfare 1 2 and 3 on lowest settings.

[@jdangberg]

Had one of these as well. The 2nd revision. only thing good about it, and why I purchased it: full hardware acceleration for youtube video. allowed me to watch youtube fullscreen with an amd sempro LE-1100. Paid something like $17 new for it on a black friday sale in 2007 or 2008 on newegg. decent HTPC card as well. that's all.

[@EATABAGOFHELL]

Interesting video. I found a 512mb PCI version of this card at a thrift shop a couple weeks back. Not PCIe, _conventional_ PCI. The 33mhz kind from dinosaur days. Stuck it in my 166mhz Pentium 1. Seems to work okay, although i'm not really sure how to check which chip it's got since GPU-Z won't run in dos.

[@bluescluessuperagent]

honestly like the first tech video I've seen that actually distinguishes ddr3 and gdrr3 heck, alot of the time even the the retailor ads do a bad job, or the box, or the sticker on the card. I think I was just watching a RandomGaminginHD video where he's literally talking about how he has the GDDR3 version (which is showing up when using any program to read hardware) but the box literally says ddr3 like you had one job to do

[@GutoCardozo22]

I had one back in 2009, and I must say it was an interesting experience. It could run some games, but the only game I remember was Prototype, and it run in a rather cinematic way. The "bad pirated copy of a movie straight from a camera recorder compressed to all hell" kinda cinematic.

[@avocatdelamusique9778]

That box though... How wrong it looks with what you're getting in the box 😂😂😂😂

[@TheKlipski]

simcity (2013) music in background, Nice!

[@BladeTrain3r]

You know I've got a office boxe (4590 i5 + 16G DDR3) and a Prescott box that needs some TLC lying around. Also a couple GT210s (1GB and 512MB variant), an 8400GS, and for some reason like 6 different variants of the Radeon 9200, PCI-E and AGP. Also an FX5200. And a PCI TNT2 which I might try and get going for the hell of it, but it won't run anything needing so much as hardware lighting. I think I'm gonna do some benchmarking for the hell of it. Thanks for giving me a lockdown project idea.

[@scunnerdarkly4929]

There’s one other use for these cards in an SFF PC and that’s when building a cheapo Hackintosh. I picked up an old Dell 755 C2D and the the major sticking point for installing OS X was the lack of support for the integrated Intel graphics chipset. OS X supports most Nvidia cards and this is no exception, pretty much the cheapest PCIe card I could find at a tenner all-in. That’s £20 for a PC and GPU capable of running up to OS X 10.9. plus an SSD I borrowed from another system to give a pleasantly usable Mac clone for next to pocket-money - and that humble Nvidia card was key to making it come together. It’s a weak card for gaming without a doubt but for this specific use it’s a winner.

[@butre.]

I still hold the overclocking world record for the pci version of this card. I quite liked it, it was terrible in a good way and only cost like $12

[@filip-pi9hy]

did you mod vrm i any way

[@filip-pi9hy]

did you mod vrm or power delivery

[@ProWilson999]

Back in 2013-2014 I got a free Rev 3 8400GS from a mate that had a fan with dry bearings and made a hell of a racket but worked in my Optiplex 755 with a Core 2 Duo and 4gb of RAM, it was a decent bump from the Q35 Express Chipset graphics the machine had stock, it got me playing Minecraft a much better settings and FPS, I just remember how much smoother the system was on Windows 7 with it over the intel iGPU. The fan on the GPU years later exploded in a PC I had it in, half the fan pinged off into the PC case while the other half remained in the cooler not spining anymore.

[@bryanleiporsado6845]

This graphics card was in my first ever computer from way back. Core 2 Duo (I couldn't remember the exact model) single 512mb of ddr2 ram 8400gs with the same specs in the video parents bought it for I think it was around 400usd to 450usd in current price. (as a computer set, with table and peripherals) could run gta san andreas happily, I remembered that I also ran Battlefield 2 and it was a great experience, definitely a childhood nostalgia for me.

[@ashleylycan9335]

The 8400GS Rev2 512MB DDR2 was the GPU inside my family's first PC. It was basically the card i grew up with XD. I still have that poor thing and did some overclocking a while ago. Ik it is a literal potato but it holds a special place in my heart..

[@she1by]

12:56 I appreciate the colour coordination

[@CoolDudeClem]

I remember buying one of these back in the day as my old GPU had RAM issues. I thought the 8400 would be better, it was new, it had a higher number on it, surely it must be better than my crappy old GPU, right? Boy was I suckered!

[@coccoborg]

I remember having an MXM one in my laptop and later replacing it with an 8600m 512MB, what a jump that was!

[@willanalikuri3290]

I had an Radeon HD3450 AGP (equivalent to the Geforce 8400GS) and I play Crysis in 800×600 in heavier parts, 1024x768 with low to medium details. Nfs most Wanted reuns really good.. With all details but no reflections... I also played GTA 4 with all minimum details (800×600, all low, 12-25 FPS). The GPU was paired with an Athlon 64 3200+ (yeah, single core cpu). The motherboard was a PCCHIPS M871G with 1.5GB of DDR Memory Ram.

[@Litepaw]

Can someone help me with a budget build question? I have a huge bottleneck somewhere, and i've been suspecting the cpu. So yeah, i have a pc that i bought last year from a friend for about 200€. It has a 6gb geforce 1060, i5 4460 + Asus B85M-G with 16gb of somewhat fast ddr3. It still holds up decently well, but some modern games stutter a bit. Is there a quick fix or an upgrade i can do? (for example an i7 from that gen? 4770/4790?) or do i have to save up and invest in a new motherboard, memory, and cpu? Thanks ❤️

[@Litepaw]

Also dare i even ask, did i get ripped off? From what i was told, and investigated myself, most of the price came from the GPU (around 150 used over here)

[@mattlichenstein4791]

Years ago I probably got the worst version of the turd: a Sparkle 8400GS meant for regular PCI. Did I mention there was no cooling fan on that card? It functioned as a poor display adapter on a 64-bit P4 I mistakenly resurrected. The analog outputs failed after a few months so I switched to DVI with a different monitor. Got a few more months out of it before the power supply blew up taking out the motherboard with it.

[@miguelstarzx]

strugling with a Nvidia 295 NVS and seeing this video makes me feel really bad man :/

[@chrisjct2095]

lol i have an nvs 285

[@exaltedb]

Miguel Gonzalez that thing is literally a rev 2 8400gs with a nicer coat of paint

[@amendthehistory4650]

Brothers i have fx 5200 im so sad i cant play anything

[@Radovanslav]

I used to have an NVS 290... It could do something but not all that much lol now I have the 1152 CUDA version of the 1060. It's way faster but doesn't make me feel better. >_

[@3dcomrade]

@@Radovanslav i used to have the 210 lol, now i have the 1gb ver of the 750. Not up for newer games but the rivht card for my monitor is res, 768p

[@FubarMike]

I had to use this card when my gtx 950 died a while back in my newer ryzen system as it didn't have integrated gfx. Mine is the 2007 version which but became passive cooled due to the fan seizing up at some point. It got me through 2 weeks like a champ

[@azone123465]

Gt 1030 ain't bad if your expectations are realistic. I bought one for my dad for his TV computer. He is like me and rather have a full fledged computer running his TV instead of a watered down "Smart" Experience. I setup and older I5 with 16GB ram in a small low profile PC case, it also only Intel HD integrated graphics. The desktop environment @ 1080P and 1080P video was great along 720P gaming on older games (He is a very casual gamer). When he bought a 4K TV I got the 1030 low profile version so he could output 4K and play 4K video easily. As a side effect he could then play most of his games @ 1080P. Also, I got him into folding at home so there was some more horsepower for that as well. Quick note, I believe modern Intel HD graphics will do this now no problem, but his integrated graphics was just a generation too old.

[@Trick-Framed]

Fun story about "higher numbers", my son had this in his computer. I offered him an 8500 GT 512MB and he said no, he had an 8400GS and that an 8500 was only a step up. I spit soda out of my nose laughing so hard. I asked him to just let me do it, so he did, realized he could now ACTUALLY play games and thanked me. I gave him my 8600 GT when I upgraded to a 9500 and then the 9500 when I upgraded to the 9600 1gb. With each upgrade he was further impressed with the performance. Except that 9500. The 8600 was pretty much the same thing.

[@ADSLPL]

nVidia style... 3 different GPU, one name.

[@damara2268]

Amd style... 1GPU, 3names