Nvidia’s Making A MASSIVE MISTAKE

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0:00 Intel Is Screwing Up
2:52 Next Gen Intel CPUs
4:32 AMD's Changing Their Naming Scheme
6:08 Nvidia's Making A Huge Mistake

[@garryarganis5801]

Nvidia doesnt try to push 8GB at you, they try to push YOU at a higher Vram cards, more expensive ones.

[@RAM_845]

thye refuse to push high vram but push high prices lol

[@MrWorshipMe]

The 5060 would suck regardless of the amount of RAM for those who wish to play at more than 1080. There's no benefit for more vram on this card anyway. It's an entry level card.

[@justmatt2655]

​@@MrWorshipMethe 5060 will perform very close to the 4070 and it will have 12gb vram. It's gonna be capable of playing at 4k

[@rodiculous9464]

I got a 950 my first pc build and that wasn't great then I got a 1080 and that goat card has served me to this day probably 8 years now, and I'm moving it to a new system until 5080 ti super elite extreme whatever comes out, lesson learned buy once cry once a decade instead of swapping low tier crap out every year

[@MrWorshipMe]

@@rodiculous9464 except that 5080 ti super ultra OC is going to double as a space heater. 1000 watt just for the GPU.

[@Dexion845]

Better start the campaign to unlaunch that 8GB crap. They didn't learn with their fake 4080 12G?

[@lefourbe5596]

Or beter yet ! The 3060 12Gb !

[@mr.cookie8265]

@@lefourbe5596 whats wrong with the 3060 12 GB ? i am currently using one and have no problems with it

[@jaxonswain3408]

8GB cards should be priced between $150-250. Anything more is very bad.

[@chrisjohnstone9376]

Then you completely missed the message

[@goregejones7248]

Rx 7600 some cards are below 250$

[@chrisjohnstone9376]

@@goregejones7248 and some gt730s are 140$

[@Azhureus]

We need pricing as it was back then with 900 and 1000 series.

[@goregejones7248]

@@Azhureus not gonna happen, nvidia will not reduce their pricing anymore, and now no XX50 series GPUs.

[@darkcash5520]

So many reasons not to buy a Nividia ....thanks AMD.... Gamer Meld I'm not buying anything that's 8GB especially at Ngreedia prices.

[@theanglerfish]

me neither i will stick with blue or red probably

[@Anthony-Soprano]

Have fun with your unstable ass drivers😂😂😂😂😂

[@penonton4260]

no you will buy Ngreedia pay more for less ~ 🤣🤣

[@deusexmachina9743]

Too bad battlemage is delayed

[@arrowghost]

Yeah, that is true, though Nvidia kept on showing a lot on their market share. But we can go buy AMD if they have a competitive card that offers 16GB at similar price but better.

[@garydterhune8392]

I am at the point that I will not buy any card with less than 16GB VRAM or more on a 256 bit or wider bus.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Same

[@UltimateGattai]

I want the card to last a long time, so it needs 16gb bare minimum.

[@NahBNah]

@@UltimateGattaiso buy AMD

[@iequalsnoob]

lmao newer cards with smaller bus are outperforming the larger bus older cards. your comment is flat out laughable

[@legendmaster1989]

@@NahBNah”so use Linux”

[@johnathankelley7151]

Its funny how the community will discuss "8GB of ram or 16?" but when it comes to Vram "8GB isn't enough". Can we just agree that 16GB ram/vram should be the damn standard?

[@LexyDaShmexxy]

i agree with you, nvidia and amd should both stop making 8gb cards and honestly skip straight to 16gb or maybe even 12gb to keep the bar a little lower, i still think tho that they have to stop making more 8gb cards, it really isn't enough for gaming.

[@adhahanif9792]

The problem with Nvidia, they know how to scale their GPU performance. Maybe the small size of vram are needed because to held the GPU performance.

[@jawohlbxb3534]

Even 16gb of ram is starting to be minimum I had in the last few months a one or two cases where i needed to close my browser to have enough ram

[@UltimateGattai]

​@@jawohlbxb3534my 1080ti has 11gb of VRAM and that was getting used up 4 years ago at 1440p. I don't think the next line up of cards should have 12gb minimum, it should probably be 16 considering how powerful these cards are getting.

[@outlet6989]

Make that at least 24GB of V-Ram.

[@RSV9]

Nvidia says : „8 GB vram on Nvidia is like 16 GB on AMD“ 😂

[@abdulrehman2744]

Came here to say this 🍻

[@FunBunChuck]

True

[@meersffej1]

I have a 3070TI. I'm not "upgrading" for another 8GB card.

[@cin2110]

Yep what's the point of extra processing power if you can't utilize it due to lack of memory.

[@williehrmann]

You should go 4070 ti super. The only reasonable 1440p card right now, for about 850€. You can find some for under 800€ if you look long enoough. 350€ cheapter than 4080 while overclocked you can get damn close to a 4080. I get slightly over 26000 Time Spy Score in 3dMark a stock 4080 gets 28.200. Thats only 8% faster. In port royal (ray tracing) my card is only 9,5% slower than a 4080. Also my memory bandwith is 768 gb/s which is higher than a stock 4080 (716.8gb/s). Granted that the 4080 super doesn't increase performance at all (28450 time spy score) there literally is no better option right now for a card. 7900xt is even in rasterizing to 4070 ti super and xtx is about 25% faster, BUT they bot suck so hard at raytracing that you'd get sometimes almost half the fps in Alan Wake or CP2077 with max settings. So AMD isn't an option right now. Every card below the 4070 ti super has only 12 gb vram and every card above that has a massive price increase for literally no extra performance (besides 4090 which has 30% more performance in 1440p for about double the price, 4090 is only needed for 4k and I'd say the only 4k card right now, but who even wants to play 4k, there is no difference to 1440p just halfes the fps).

[@jeevan1198]

​@@cin2110 Exactly

[@ThreaT650]

@@cin2110 Imagine cranking everything up after buying the card only to find you have maxed out your GPU VRAM. Or my personal favorite, imagine being on a 5060 and needing to use upscaling and frame generation only to realize frame generation that these lower end cards sometimes rely on to perform well in AAA graphic intensive games, NEEDS MORE VRAM! LOL! The upscaling is literally made for these lower end cards and IT NEEDS MORE VRAM to use.

[@lefourbe5596]

​@@cin2110it's even worse for AI workloads. a 3060 12Gb is capable of generating higher res picture than a 5060 cause the 5060 will trow a CUDA out of memory error before starting. And that is supposed to be the faster card.

[@kishin9]

Fuck no who would buy a 8GB card in 2024-2025..

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

I wouldn’t either. I’m actually looking for 16GB VRAM on a 256 memory bus as a minimum for long term 1440p gaming. At the budget 1080p level 12GB is your new minimum.

[@DL-iy7ob]

​@@AnonymousUser-ww6nsI think the rx 6800, rx6800xt, 7600xt, 7800xt are your friends in this situation.

[@RatBagDad]

Err, loads of people. I recently bought a 4060 cos they're cheap as fuck. The only reason I got it was to replace my spare piece of shit 6800XT in my second PC. That machine is only used for 4K capture and streaming. The 4060 is purely for the latest gen nvenc encoder and access to nvidia broadcast effects. So yeah, there absolutely are people who buy 8gb cards still. Depends on the use case.

[@tileeq]

I would, if its cheap.

[@thedesk954]

1080p users will

[@Steve-ho5zj]

Gamers have been dropped for Ai.

[@VioFax]

Games are getting freaking boring now anyway...

[@arenzricodexd4409]

because gamer also has been buying less and less even if those GPU are cheap.

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

The AI thing will slow at some point or there will be more competion. Nivdia wont be a leader forever.

[@cin2110]

@@VioFax Yep all I'm playing is old games nowadays new thrash is just that.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns that's what people thought 5 years ago. with many other company that coming up with their AI specific hardware soon AI computation will move away from GPU. kind of how GPU end up being completely irrelevant in bitcoin mining. now nvidia end up being in a position that significantly stronger than they were 5 years ago in AI. and that still using their GPU strategy that some considers as inefficient vs more AI specific chip. nvidia also already have teams dedicated to AI only chip for years now in case GPU can no longer able to compete in AI workloads.

[@smokebreak6904]

I would never buy an 8GB card again, same as i wouldn't buy a calculator watch now as it just isn't practical anymore with the better tech out there currently. They already proved that the goalpost has moved, so playing the game as it used to be isn't an option

[@kishin9]

LOL $300 for a 8GB card...

[@veilmontTV]

It is getting absolutely ridiculous. The 3070 struggles in games more than it should

[@definingslawek4731]

I gave retail for a 3080 FE (10gb) last summer just before the shortage ended. Was that a bad deal? I recall at the time people saying the 12gb version wasn’t worth it as it costed too much more. The only other options for higher vram were lower end nvidia cards or the 3090 which is a different price bracket.

[@socialfreak6900]

@@veilmontTV basically a glorified chopped 2080 Ti

[@mikeb3172]

It's $300 for 1080p high settings

[@goregejones7248]

Rtx 4060 was $329 so guessing rtx 5060 will be $350

[@ThreaT650]

the cost increase to go from 8gb to 12gb or to 16gb of VRAM is so small that I just can't believe Nvidia are still playing these games

[@devinruttimann4336]

There are 12GB 2060‘s, and Nvidia‘s new card comes with 8GB. 6-7 years later, how?! Does someone know how much Vram the rx 8600 (xt) will have?

[@delresearch5416]

More than nvidias

[@legendmaster1989]

@@delresearch5416🧢

[@Revoku]

the 8gb thing was why I went amd cards for the first time in years, after having my 770 get gimped by its vram(still had the power to drive the frames but got massive stutters because of the limited vram, then getting a 3060 ti later with its 8gb and finding some games either stuttered or did weird things with the textures(like trying to look down a sniper scope and finding the textures still hadn't moved up to higher res so everything was blurry and the target was barely visible) I got sick of running out of VRAM and went to a 6800XT with 16GB

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Good choice

[@lefourbe5596]

That's a good illustrated example. 🤌 Would Come in handy when i do the tech wizzard for my Friends.

[@Revoku]

@@lefourbe5596 yea alot of people go "my card has never used all of its 8GB, it's only at 7.4GB/8GB" then they don't pay attention to the action related stuttering, slow/bad/uneven texture loading etc not realizing that the game is doing its best to manage the VRAM use to stop a crash so its trying to leave 600mb so no single texture can completely fill it in one load and crash the program/game. like a CPU with a bad cooler managing its heat output by dropping down the speeds and power limits. some people will happily chug along with the bad cooler completely unaware of how bad the system is running and claim they never had an issue with the stock cooler

[@royboysoyboy]

Today's News: Everyone and everything sucks

[@sylviam6535]

So, just like every other day in the last 15 years.

[@NOOBGAMER-pm1pv]

Yeah that sum it up everything

[@g.paudra8942]

they realized that it's a hardware problem (the cpu isn't that fast) but they keep making excuse that it's not their problem, it's like you have a defect car engine, but your car manufacture says it's your problem that you're going more than 60mph (120km/h) that damage the engine

[@MrBlackdragon1230]

8gb of vram should be ok for a xx50 clas card, but xx60 class should have 12 or more. the xx70 should be no less than 16gb of vram and xx80 should be no less than 20-24 gb of vram. The xx90 and higher should move on to 32-36 gb of vram.

[@SidneyCritic]

Didn't HUB just prove that 8GB on low end cards isn't enough, ie, it runs, but can't render fully, ie, looks terrible.

[@blabla-fw9ix]

Unfortunately Nvidia just wants you to keep buying the next gen unless you get the flagship card and then you can choose if you want to . By the leaks the VRAM will be the same as the 40 series and not the super series so 5060-8 , 5070-12 , 5080-16 , 5090-24/28/32 . When a freaking 5080 will have 16 that tells you a lot about the other cards .......

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Yeah I Agree but Nivdia Won’t do that.

[@haruusami1831]

@@SidneyCriticI mean as long as you're not expecting a entry level GPU to run every game at EXTREME SETTINGS especially on TRIPLE "A" games then theirs still a market for 8GB (cause their are still Esports/Competitive games,old MMO's,old games and people who simply want to game at reasonable settings medium settings) the main problem is the asking price for such crap, and honestly ngreedia should just bring back GTX in entry level GPU's (50-60 class 8GB) cause RT on such GPU has not much use, as long as DLSS is still avail and the price becomes $200-250.

[@juanford55]

x60 GPUs are the new x50 GPU it seems.

[@vazione5410]

Can’t wait to see non of this happens, and its the same 5 leakers waffling and not getting anything right until the announcement of product release is less than a month away 😮.

[@bgates275]

Funny that my 3060 came with 12 GB VRAM and that seemed to make sense for them 3 years ago.

[@Macheako]

NVIDIA is like that ex whose life just keeps getting better after leaving you 😂😭😂

[@kaystephan2610]

They're currently doing so well because of the AI bubble and because they are massively overvalued. No that does not mean I am saying NVIDIA will go bankrupt once the bubble bursts. What I am saying tho is: AI is here to stay and it will do a lot of crazy things, for sure, but demand cannot and will not continue at the current pace. Eventually the AI bubble will burst and demand will calm down a lot to a more reasonable level from which a more normal growth development can be expected. When will it happen? I don't know, I'm not a fortune teller.

[@mikelay5360]

​@@kaystephan2610😂 cope

[@kaystephan2610]

@@mikelay5360 It's facts. Not my problem if you lack education.

[@mikelay5360]

@@kaystephan2610 the word" facts" is doing plenty of heavy lifting in that statement 😂

[@gamingcomputers7485]

Oh here we go again 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣

[@overdriver99]

8GB card in 2025 ?!? LOL!!! put down your crack pipe, Nvidia. you are hallucinating LOL!!!

[@samlawrenson3963]

Honestly, I’d rather have like 8 cores with no hyperthreading and high clocks that I know my games can and will take advantage of, than having hyperthreaded cores that almost no games will even come close to even using them all

[@kishin9]

8GB in 2024 yup it's DOA.

[@nitehawk9270]

yeah not upgrading my 1080ti that launched in 2017 with 11GB ram for that card :P. Honestly, just held back seeing the crap show of pricing and purchased a switch and a PS5 in the last few years. Despite ample funds.5070 ti or 5080 might be the go this time around with whatever the equivalent of a 7800x3d is at the time.

[@AndyViant]

8gb is not even good enough for 1080 now. So I can see it on a low end laptop. But as a discrete desktop card? Nope. A used 3080 or a new 7700xt looks better.

[@JFrameMan]

16GBs VRAM should now be the minimum with the high end consumer/prosumer cards at 48 - 64GBs. $2000+ for a card better mean you get your money's worth not just for playing some games.

[@stysner4580]

My old 1070 has 8GB xD

[@epicraptor777]

yknow what they say, if everyones fucking up no1 is fuckin up

[@bionicseaserpent]

i mean more reason to not buy Nvidia the better. competition needs to spring

[@billlam7756]

Why? It's not like amd any cheaper barely for a second class card

[@iequalsnoob]

So because AMD keeps failing to compete with NVIDIA we are supposed to stop buying the better cards cause you feel bad about it?

[@arkaneforyou]

What competition? AMD is shit when it comes to work load. I won't bother with amd ever.

[@blakekramer5910]

The profit margins are likely much lower on the 60 series cards. They simply don’t want people buying the 4060.

[@jemtec1]

8GB gpu memory is ridiculous these days.

[@starnxq.]

I wish nvidia came out with new gpus like ever 4 years instead of two.

[@UltimateGattai]

8GB of VRAM shouldn't be a thing now, games were using over 10GB at 1440p 4 years ago. Even these lower cards should have more than 8GB.

[@Tekzite]

It's all intentional, certainly not a mistake. They know they can force these kind of things, because they're the largest company and have a monopoly.

[@toja4309]

They dropped the xx50 name and sell it as xx60 model. Are you still surprised it's got only 8gb or VRAM?

[@juanford55]

Knowing Nvidia i can see them also keeping the 128 bit bus on the x60 class GPUs too... 🤦

[@albang3r]

Anybody, What game is that at 1:33?

[@wag1492]

It's like everyone just went stupid..

[@smokebreak6904]

Oh you nailed it...... and not just with this issue, the population as a whole is getting dumbed down fast and we are seeing more examples of it daily

[@rainbowdash3419]

@@smokebreak6904you do know that’s human error right? humans will make mistakes but guess everyone is stupid because he said so just like UnderTheMayo and GamerMeld I mean…GamerMold is always right.

[@smokebreak6904]

@@rainbowdash3419 no, im in total agreement, not sarcastically......... work tech support for a week, and when the VP that makes 1,000,000 a year or more is asking things a 5 yr old would be able to do, it sinks in fast. the Populus as a whole is completely being dumbed down and are having a hard time grasping basic concepts. not trashing on anyone, just an observation of life

[@robertmazurowski5974]

Back in my day 60 series cards had 12gb VRAM. What has this country come to.

[@MDIftiazXIIB]

Couldn't amd just change it to raizen ?

[@mimo5383]

I think the reasoning for 8gb cards is that APU's will continue to erode that low end segment and they just want to leave an option for legacy as a stop gap to going for an all new system. I myself have an Intel i7 Beast Canyon NUC with a 4070 stuffed into it (yes it actually fits and works fine), but I see it as my last discrete video card. I'll likely move to an APU only system in future for my rig using the best desktop class AMD chip paired with the fastest ram it can support for example.

[@Zicrixdoesart]

Am I seeing that right, no 4 core variant from intel? Raising the minimum to 6 would be great if pricing allows.

[@andynow-uu1mr]

Most smartphones today already has 8gb or more..😂😂 There is no reason for dedicated Desktop GPUs to have 8gb..it's just pure abomination...

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

Well if I see 8GB of VRaM then it’s automatically either xx30 or xx50 class. On a xx60 class card it should have 12GB VRAM no exceptions. If Nivdia fails to deliver this then I’ll make sure to stay clear of it and let them know that $300 is not okay for 8GB VRAM.

[@YoureBreathtaking]

basically nvidia wants to push people to go up a level on their card, people that used to buy xx60 card would have to upgrade to xx70 card, and people that used to buy xx50 card now have to upgrade to xx60 card and so on.

[@nimrodery]

It's a 5050 renamed to 5060, everything dropped a tier in performance except the 090 class cards. Although they've done it for several generations so basically the 060 class will be the "less than adequate but works with lower settings" GPU for a 60 fps experience most of the time.

[@dirkjewitt5037]

That 5060 will most likely be given a 4060 super label/TI later, after the launch. Those models will most likely get 12gb's of ram. Or the 60 series will become what the 50 series is now. The new entry level for Nvidia RTX, and the most we'll see is just a TI version with 12gb's of ram. They know we want more ram, but this is Nvidia. Just stay clear of the first launch and wait for the TI/Super to come out.

[@RAM_845]

Still producing 8GBvram in 2024???

[@bobbastian760]

“Has drunk” not “has drank”

[@jamreal18]

No more 8 GB Vram.... It's bottleneck...

[@AnonymousUser-ww6ns]

On a 60 class card it should have 12GB.

[@frapeczek8570]

Why 8GB??? My gtx 1070 is almost 8 years old and it has 8GB as well... It doesn't feel right

[@systemBuilder]

AMD should release the RX8600 With 12GB. This will embarrass and humiliate NVidia, at a very small cost ...

[@Kapono5150]

Even digital foundry ditched Intel and went AMD, it’s must be pretty bad

[@Raphy_Afk]

Thats ridiculous, all that because they don't want cards to be as durable as the 1080ti

[@wow_horac4663]

If the rumors of GDDR7 across nvidia's full product stack on the 50 series is true the 5060 could use 3gb modules instead of 2 gb modules which would mean 12 gb instead of 8. Wont know till they ship.

[@jasonhemphill8525]

It doesn’t look like 3gb modules will be ready in time. Maybe when they release a super 😕

[@arenzricodexd4409]

5060 most likely going with 12GB.

[@wow_horac4663]

@@jasonhemphill8525 Looks like 3gb modules are scheduled for "late 2024". I don't think the 5060 is going to be out until late first quarter (end of Febuary or March). Not sure if that's enough time for it or not. Just going off internet rumors so who can say what's accurate.

[@jasonhemphill8525]

@@wow_horac4663 man I hope so. I’ve considered modding my 3070 to give it some more life but dealing with hacky drivers sounds like more trouble than it’s worth. I hate that Nvidia is sticking us in position of forced planned obsolescence. $1000 as a barrier entry for a gpu that won’t be useless in 3 years is a tough pill to swallow.

[@CommanderSix]

What game is being showcased at 01:32?

[@JuanCarlosUllauri]

I have the same question, I'm reading the comments just for that... 😂

[@JuanCarlosUllauri]

Outpost: infinity siege

[@tdub77]

"Champing" at the bit

[@williamlaprarie3007]

My main games run between 9-12gb with hell nvidia...guess I'll be switching.

[@BladeCrew]

I would say, 8-10GB for 8050, 10GB-12GB for 8060 and the rest like the 8070 and up must have 16GB+ at minimum.

[@wwk279]

I hate Nvidia's marketing approach, which resembles Apple's strategies.

[@sylviam6535]

Apple gets away with lower memory size far more than NVIDIA does.

[@cin2110]

@@sylviam6535 Apple also has whole operating systems optimized to run with low memory and locked down specs like consoles so devs can optimize for them. Nvidia can't pull that s**t off because they don't have all that.

[@sylviam6535]

@@cin2110 - Exactly. Their VRAM BS (size and memory bus) ruined the 4xxx series.

[@cracklingice]

It is perfectly fine to release an 8GB card. It's just a 50 class or 30 class card, not a 60 class card.

[@Akash.Chopra]

Info starts at 2:52. Just commercials before that.

[@Cravenfr]

End question = Hell nope !

[@nickm8651]

Intel will have the first bottom side silicon powered gate chips which makes it very efficient. Not like today, gates ecched on top. Pretty cool and awesome with the same GHz speeds of today. I'm sure these will OC very well and be so much cooler. This is all the new spending on Tooling they have done and it will pay off huge. Cheers!

[@justmatt2655]

5060 will perform close to the 4070 and have 12gb vram. The mobile version means nothing when trying to guess what the desktop version will have. The mobile 4070 also has 8gb vram but you don't see anyone complaining about that

[@bobbastian760]

“Champing at the bit” not “chomping at the bit”

[@dexsters5643]

Honestly both naming scemes for Intel and AMD feel cooked now. But it is what it is. Wouldnt be suprised that workshops woukd try to mod the RTX5060 from 8gb of vram to 16gb or more. Knowing alot of older cards like the GTX 900 series going from 4gb to 8. (Some GTX980 and 970 being modded with new memory) or like the RTX2080ti's with 22gb of vram

[@atlas1924]

most of the games I play only take like 3gb of Vram and they are new releases a mid range having 8gb is not a big deal

[@lightningblade7091]

atleast it should of been 12 or atleast 10 VRam

[@POLARTTYRTM]

12 should now be the bare minimum for vram.

[@nuclearsydrome9926]

whats that game that pops up from 1:33-1:35

[@JuanCarlosUllauri]

I have the same question, jeje

[@JuanCarlosUllauri]

Outpost: infinity siege

[@dangingerich2559]

I really like the Ryzen AI branding change, but I think they ought to drop the "HX" part.

[@BVLVI]

16gig or I will wait. I have had a 12gig 1080ti for a very long time now. I paid a lot but the 1080ti was a god tier upgrade at the time. Now days it's been pathetic how little a gen leap is. Maybe even the same or worse performance in some cards.

[@BronyumHexofloride]

8GB GPUs are fine if the SKU is sub $200 otherwise you are throwing your money away, lower end cards aren't intended for maxxed out gaming and thus may be ok with less Vram but on a $300 card Nvidia can to quote Elon Musk "Go Fork Yourself"

[@GraphicdesignforFree]

For $199 I will by a 8GB card in 2025. That will not happen.

[@richardbeckenbaugh1805]

I bought an RX6600 between Christmas and New Years 2023 for $170 on Newegg. PowerColor fighter. Thought it was being discontinued. Just a flash sale. My bad.

[@fx-studio]

I can't wait for GroQ to release there LPU as a PCI card - at a zillion times faster than any GPU at processing AI its game over for Nividia.

[@MaxCarponera]

Intel gives more importance to PR than to engineering. They'll never recognice they made a mistake. And the problem is they don't even know how to do PR right. Instead of "The motherboard makers got wrong by... someone", what about "In order to get the customers with the most top performance we choosed a power configuration so powerful that could surpass the laws of physics in some cases. If you are in that situation, plese change this to that and will still get that wonderchankerlton performance Intel provides with Intel infamous wonderfurlongest stabilty."

[@mgaming7]

hate the intel ultra naming scheme.

[@user-cv6rx6fo5h]

Nvidia kiting people into purchasing their newest, most expensive flagship by gimbing their 80 series. But more people will just stick to their olden gen cards for longer.

[@matok7036]

I bought a Radeon 7900 GRE. Switching from GTX 960, so there's a gap. I would be happy if it weren't for driver problems. Constant crashes even with default settings. I tried messing around with the settings, but unfortunately nothing works. I once had a Radeon from ATI and I remember that it was even worse then. Unfortunately, I gave AMD a chance but I have to go back to Nvidia

[@OutOfRangeDE]

Maybe you should have uninstalled the nvidia graphics drivers first 😂

[@matok7036]

@@OutOfRangeDE You are so smart, I think you are some kind of a genius :)

[@jawohlbxb3534]

My friend recently had very similar problem he switched to RX 6800 and crashes after few minutes of playing and stuttering. We tried everything looked through every thread on forums and nothing after 3-4 months we looked somewhere else in the pc he bought new motherboard and it solved the problems. I still have no idea what was causing the problem

[@OutOfRangeDE]

@@matok7036 sry bad joke i kinda thought about the situation where you really forgot it by accident 😅

[@matok7036]

​@@OutOfRangeDE No problem :) that was first thing I have done with DDU.

[@daffydlandegge3843]

Why dont we get a % of the money they make off selling our information? That should be a requirement to selling information or else face a lawsuit they cant win

[@HailSkroob12345]

Man, I've spent a considerable amount of time this year re- educating myself for a new build. 8gb Vram is off the table for me. From what it's looking like Intel and Nvidia might be off the table too.

[@thedesk954]

Im either getting full AMD or full Intel in next build

[@Rayu25Demon]

buy 5070 for 1080p

[@fuehwbdb3765]

You did there something wrong replace the p with $

[@148Reaper]

I just upgraded from my 8gb 1080 because its nearing its end, there is no way you should be buying anything under 12gb now if you are broke, and realistically should opt for 16gb if you can

[@BladeCrew]

RX 7600XT, it has 16GB vram?

[@148Reaper]

@@BladeCrew not bad, I went with a 4080 super oc that was on special.

[@BladeCrew]

@@148Reaper Not bad, I got my Zotac RTX 3050 Twin Edge OC 8GB for 220 dollar spicial August 2022 and upgraded from a 5 year old gt 1030 2GB GDDR5.

[@xXXEnderCraftXXx]

I will just buy a 3090(ti) when the price drops come because of the 50 series...

[@svenweyers3916]

To clarify: Nvidia did release a 4050... they just called it 4060 and priced a 150$ gpu at 300$.

[@Ericobab]

Intel is right and it is perfectly clear : Some bios settings (especially on Asus motherboards) deliver by default an insane amount of vcore to gain few Mhz, counting on the CPU temperatures throttle to avoid crashes. When I disabled this "let the bios optimize" thing, my temperatures dropped by 10C° on my 14700K. Intel parameters should be applied by default, and the motherboard parameters should be only applied by the user. Anyway, if you want to OC your CPU, you should always do it manually. The AI OC thing is not efficient at all.

[@stysner4580]

The thing is Intel hasn't been enforcing this for board partners, AMD has.

[@di4mondpl4ys45]

There are actually guys out there who just want to play a game from time to time, those are the same who buy prebuilt PCs with 16xx cards inside, so yeah there is a maekwt which can be satisfied with 8GB vram. Just a typical 1080p "as long as the game runs everything is fine"-guy

[@lil_saiko9833]

My first gpu was a r9 3900 with 8 gigs of vram. I bought it when I was in highschool… over 7 years ago. How is nvidia still on this bs

[@RayneAngelus]

Of course Intel doesn't want base spec profiles limiting power. Just look at the reviewers that have updated since those BIOS updates have gone out. Intel's losing performance at the high end such that i9 parts no longer make sense to buy, and both people who have unstable CPUs and those who don't are both getting performance reduced if they enable those profiles.

[@stysner4580]

Yes this has been going on for years. AMD doesn't have their hands clean either with misleading graphs, but at least they know what a spec is and enforce it for their board partners. Intel has been pretending they're innocent; they aren't.

[@outlet6989]

You have, as always, produced great videos. I'd rather have a-make that two-root canal procedure than a GPU card with only 8GB of VRAM. I'd like a GPU with at least 32GB of VRAM.

[@c0d3warrior]

So the 5060 is really an overpriced 5030? Jeeez Nvidia 🙈

[@devjitdutta5670]

I already ditched Ngreedia for Radeon and am not going back unless they come to their senses. Apart from some minor driver issues I’m really happy with my 7900 gre.

[@sonisudhanshu85]

Bahut Bahut Wadhai Bhai, hume Rampal (Moores Law is Dead) aur Sompal (Broken Silicon) ne bataya ki aapne Rajasthan ke Baadmer mein, Border se 10 Kilometer pehle, 50 Beegha Registaan khareeda hai, jo aage chal ke hara bhara Garden banne waala hai.. KZbin se kama ke tagda hi Investment kar daala Bhai ne

[@rahul875]

RDNA 4 will be awesome

[@juanford55]

Releasing a 8GB x60 class GPU in 2025 with new game engines like unreal engine 5.x is just an insult... Lets hope leaks go wrong cuz if its true im skipping RTX 50 series, and hopefully, hopefully! things change for the 60 series, they will need to increase the VRAM soon or later, but the price could also go up...😢

[@sergiomarroquinjr3587]

No.

[@Andy-lz6gb]

No new 8gb GPU for me, I will only consider 16gb+

[@shrimpwalk8230]

As for me, I will only consider 32gb+

[@WyattOShea]

Same considering my current gpu is 16gb (6900xt) a new one will have to have at least that much ram if not more as I also play at 4k lol.

[@GForceIntel]

​@@shrimpwalk8230There isn't even a game that uses 20gb

[@definingslawek4731]

@@GForceIntelram is cheap, and gaming isn’t the only thing gpus are used for. Even if, why shouldn’t new top end cards be ahead of the curve and push the envelope?

[@GForceIntel]

@definingslawek4731 I never said the company shouldn't surpass the precious cards vram, but 90% of people worried about Vram are gamers.

[@AdamsWorlds]

Nvidia are desperately trying to make the X060 Series the old X050 or X050TI replacement. Instead of just whacking the price up of all cards they are instead just naming them a tier above what they should be. They want people buying the X070 cards instead of the X060 cards. 8GB is VRAM is simply not enough 12GB is minimum and i think even that is low. Anything mid range should be 16GB minimum, low end is where you should see the 10gb and 12gb. Then ultra low end can be whatever as not important. The cards should be like this. (and i think will be like this) 5050 = 6GB-8GB $220 - $300 5050TI = 10GB/12GB $320 - $410 5060 / 5060TI = 16GB $450 - $550 5070 / 5070TI = 24GB $600 - $820 5080 / 5080TI = 32GB $900 - $1150 5090 / 5090TI = 48GB $1700 - $1850

[@ag687]

I'd wait until they announce their cards to make any assumptions. -For all we know they need half the VRAM because of AI optimizations. -Last gen came out with the intention of selling a huge backlog of last gen cards that partners had. They were priced to keep the 30 series competitive. Without a huge overstock 50 series will probably be much better price/performance than the 40 series. -Also with AI, they want to protect their AI markets and will likely try to skimp on VRAM to make the 50 series less AI friendly. Pushing for less VRAM in gaming might be how they keep AI and Gaming markets separated. Gamers don't like having their cards bought up by non gamers and Nvidia likes to segment their markets. So VRAM may stay small in gaming.

[@rwait1287]

저는 intel cpu의 pcie lane 갯수가 더 궁금해 지네요

[@fturla___156]

All chip designers and manufacturers are going to attempt to sell and market most of their products if and when they can into the artificial intelligence industry market, because the gross revenue sales are 400% to over 20,000% higher compared to sales revenue for conventional public customer sales for the gaming, business, database, and/or server markets. Production efforts that would creates a product that sells for 500 dollars in the gaming market, the majority of that directive will be focused on to AI merchandise that will be sold at well above the 2,000 US dollar mark with the most in demand components going well above 10,000 dollars which is why AMD, Intel, Nvidia, ARM, and a host of smaller chip designers are building and selling to attempt to grab as much of the AI market as possible.