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@danield.8615
@danield.8615 11 ай бұрын
What I like about your OC trials is the amount of knowledge you have and how you explain it to the users. Even if I like to undervoltage to prevent those insane power usages.
@Evangelionism
@Evangelionism 11 ай бұрын
Hi daniel
@mikepawlikguitar
@mikepawlikguitar 10 ай бұрын
Undervolting is only necessary if temps are getting too high for your liking..for example, Core i9-series or even laptops benefit much more from undervolting than an RTX 4070 Ti Super that's already below 70ºC lol.
@DeadOmenz
@DeadOmenz 11 ай бұрын
Hope you're feeling healthier, wish you the best recovery. Loved the video.
@petert3355
@petert3355 11 ай бұрын
What the OP said goes ditto from Down Under mate.
@tilmandavies3239
@tilmandavies3239 11 ай бұрын
... and from across the ditch in NZ hehe 🐑
@disguiseddv8ant486
@disguiseddv8ant486 11 ай бұрын
There was nothing wrong with him. You all fall for the trap out because he knows how ignorant and gullible most individuals are. The man uploaded a picture of a arm at a clinic. He did this during the pandemic when his viewership were going down because he didn't know how to pivot from doing PC builds during the GPU shortage.
@DeadOmenz
@DeadOmenz 11 ай бұрын
@@disguiseddv8ant486 How far outta your ass did you pull that comment from?
@disguiseddv8ant486
@disguiseddv8ant486 11 ай бұрын
@@DeadOmenz Not far at all. It was right on the edge.
@Sirsantos
@Sirsantos 11 ай бұрын
Bruh this is one of the best overclocking video I've seen and it was mainly about the 4070TI than overclocking.
@danielhulan3058
@danielhulan3058 11 ай бұрын
This was your best gpu overclock tutorial by far. Thank you! You made it make so much sense.
@thealien_ali3382
@thealien_ali3382 11 ай бұрын
I like hairy men
@rustyboltz2820
@rustyboltz2820 11 ай бұрын
This almost has 1070Ti vibes when people overclocked them and basically had 1080 performance.
@hairychesticles1
@hairychesticles1 11 ай бұрын
its not rly a big gain with the OC. my 6800xt got about 5-10fps with an OC same with my 2070 got about 3-8fps
@noahbirdrevolution
@noahbirdrevolution 11 ай бұрын
I remember certain lines of the rtx2000 series had vastly different mem speeds based on the manufacturer. I remember my zotac extereme whatever 2070 had significantly faster mem speed than all but 2 or 3 other 2070 cards which were near the same. Those specific cards could get really close to the 2070 super base time spy scores.
@sownlengoc
@sownlengoc 11 ай бұрын
only overclocking vram makes difference
@Ryan_Driedger
@Ryan_Driedger 11 ай бұрын
I'm still rocking my 1070ti but it is starting to degrade. I've lost about 75mhz of stable overclock in the past 2 years but I'm pumped to the 4070ti super or maybe wait for next gen see how it goes
@jolness1
@jolness1 11 ай бұрын
@@hairychesticles1yeah gains aren’t as big now. I squeezed 8% out of my 4090 with a memory OC. My 1080ti could get more and older gpus were much easier. Manufacturers know how much they can get and they push it as far as they can while having it work on every card
@fleurdewin7958
@fleurdewin7958 11 ай бұрын
You can overclock to get more clockspeed out of the 4070Ti Super , but you cannot overclock to get more L2 cache. 4080 has 64MB of L2 cache, 4070Ti Super has 48MB .
@RadexyTV
@RadexyTV 10 ай бұрын
This might be reason why they cut the L2 tbh. It would have been too close to the 4080.
@itsjustdroid
@itsjustdroid 10 ай бұрын
I didnt know they gut the cache...THAT makes all the sense why the 4070 ti is closer to the 4080 smh
@beefwantko7269
@beefwantko7269 10 ай бұрын
IM calling BS, been mining with every card you can think of over the last 6 years, and your not pushing your memory 1250mhz, and your core clock.. and your Power limit 18 percent... which I dont think they even alow you too go past 110 on all the cards ive played with in the 4000 series... and your saying its increasing your temps by 2c.. your full of crap man im sorry.. just straight lies, maybe your getting plus 2c if you droped the power limit 18 percent.. which is possible unlike what you said.. and had your fans running 80-100 percent. post the data @@ElmorQuistin
@dv5466
@dv5466 10 ай бұрын
@@ElmorQuistinso? His point still stands
@patsk8872
@patsk8872 9 ай бұрын
4080 Super might be appealing if you could get it for $1k MSRP but at $1100-1200 it just starts to look stupid.
@Borgschulze
@Borgschulze 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember the Sapphire X800GTO2 from back in the day? You could flash it to a full on X850XTPE, it would take CS:Source FPS from around 60, to around 120... just with a BIOS flash, and still had more room to overclock it beyond that.
@M.W.H.
@M.W.H. 11 ай бұрын
Yea these are mythical stories now.
@advancegeo2986
@advancegeo2986 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree with the other guy that's the type of stuff I wish would still be possible at least at some level
@SuperConker
@SuperConker 11 ай бұрын
nVidia had a similar thing back in 2003 with their GeForce FX 5900-series. You could make any of the following cards become the same as their top-model GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (256 MB) after just a simple Bios flash: GeForce FX 5900 Ultra (256 MB) GeForce FX 5900 XT (128 MB) GeForce FX 5900 SP (128 MB) GeForce FX 5900 (128 MB) For the 128 MB models, the improvement was very noticeable.
@Tigerfox_
@Tigerfox_ 11 ай бұрын
@@SuperConker That's nonsense. First of all, the 128MB would be gravely missed sooner or later. Secon, at least XT and ZT (what's SP?) hat much lower clocking memory, so you could never reach 5900-speeds. I don't know about the difference in 5900, 5900 Ultra and 5950 Ultra, though, could be the same, could be slightly different. And thirdly, at least XT and ZT had entirely different PCB and cooling systems so you could never reach the same clock as 5950 Ultra. I could imagine 5900 256MB being identical to 5900 Ultra. All people saying "I OCed card x to level of card y!" always forget that card y could also be OCed in in 99,9% of cases would reach higher clocks than card x. Top tier cards often do not have as much headroom as certain lower tier models but overall clock always will be higher. There might have been very few cases were you really got a downclocked top-tier card with a different name, like X800GTO² beeing a X850XT in disguise, but that always was intentional.
@Tigerfox_
@Tigerfox_ 11 ай бұрын
Because that was the intention of X800GTO², clearing the stock of R400-GPUs right beforce X1800-release. X800GTO², guaranteed to be unlockable to 16 pipes, were more expensive than regular X800GTO², which often were not unlockable, but this way sales were boosted by hopes of getting a cheap X850XT. If you were unlucky and your X800GTO was not unlockable, you would have been better of buying an X800XL for about the same price. If you were really unlucky you got one with not unluxckable R430-core and were stuck with 12 pipes AND low core clock, in essence a X800 256MB.
@Rustyer266
@Rustyer266 11 ай бұрын
My overclocking these days on nvidia cards, is slide up the power slider as far as it will go and lock the fan speed at 75-80% wack +150 on the core +1000 on memory then call it a day. i havent ran into a 20/30/40 series card that cant do that.
@habilain
@habilain 11 ай бұрын
If the fan power usage is a genuine concern, disconnect the fans from the card and connect them to a fan hub or similar (it's easy enough to get an adapter for this). Or just deshroud it and point a leaf blower at the card.
@mikewilson8407
@mikewilson8407 11 ай бұрын
Off topic but saw your tweet...SOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY It IS not the worse! Keep getting better bud!!!
@svfutbol20
@svfutbol20 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I just bought one. I’m sick of waiting for the “perfect” card to come along. I want some 4K performance and overclocking headroom for under $1k
@dkindig
@dkindig 9 ай бұрын
I couldn't hold out any longer. Bought a 3070 during the drought (don't ask) and this card checked off a lot of boxes for me at a good price.
@str8ripn881
@str8ripn881 Ай бұрын
​@@dkindigsame I got my 3070 during the drought and didn't regret it then but ever since said I should have waited longer but my build was waiting for a GPU. I'm fairly happy but I've switched to a 34uw 1440p monitor and I play VR. So gonna maybe swoop the 4070s or 4070ti super. Can't decide if pay the extra like 250 for 4gb more of vram or not
@dkindig
@dkindig Ай бұрын
@@str8ripn881 I don't know if the extra 4GB is worth it. Ti Super is a beast at anything 1440 you can throw at it. I've been running 4k with it for a while (dlss quality for a couple of titles) and it's doing pretty good at that too. From what I've seen Super and Ti Super performance is VERY close. In Starfield at 4k with a 60GB HD texture pack: 10.5GB vram used. If you're not going to ray-trace or path-trace the extra vram doesn't seem to be a plus.
@dkindig
@dkindig Ай бұрын
I don't know if the extra 4GB is worth it. Ti Super is a beast at anything 1440 you can throw at it. I've been running 4k with it for a while (dlss quality for a couple of titles) and it's doing pretty good at that too. From what I've seen Super and Ti Super performance is VERY close. In Starfield at 4k with a 60GB HD texture pack: 10.5GB vram used. If you're not going to ray-trace or path-trace the extra vram doesn't seem to be a plus.
@str8ripn881
@str8ripn881 Ай бұрын
@@dkindig yeah I play rpg and any single player typically with ray tracing on. Would like to try the path tracing of cyberpunk a little bit. But not a must. I'm kinda concerned with VR performance but I do think I may save some money and just get a Super for this rig sell my 3070. Then I'm gonna plan on a full new build around a late 50series super card or keep the 3070 to put back in current rig then do new cpu with pcie5 ddr5 stuff with the 4070super. Who knows may keep this next card with current rig til the 60series for a full build if the 4070super ends up playing with the 1440p ultrawide and pcvr well enough
@TheaKaSaToRi
@TheaKaSaToRi 11 ай бұрын
Been watching for years, seen several videos of you Oc'ing, but I really liked this. Some how this gave me a way better understanding. This form, but now show us some practical OC for CPU.
@AthanImmortal
@AthanImmortal 11 ай бұрын
2:14 small correction, 4080 power limit is 320W (according to TechPowerUp) not 350W, so the difference is 35W not 65W, and also makes what Jay is doing (adding 10%) more compelling, because 10% of 285W is 28.5W, so almost as much as would be needed to match the 4080 tdp.
@mikezappulla4092
@mikezappulla4092 11 ай бұрын
Who cares.
@georgec2932
@georgec2932 11 ай бұрын
@@mikezappulla4092 The irony of you caring enough to comment.
@josephroberts9815
@josephroberts9815 11 ай бұрын
@@mikezappulla4092 Don't be rude bro its free to be nice. I appreciated their comment :)
@09RHYS
@09RHYS 10 ай бұрын
​@@mikezappulla409265 Comments on JayZ Channel, all negative... You people never cease to annoy me.
@matthewzaczeniuk4892
@matthewzaczeniuk4892 10 ай бұрын
@@josephroberts9815 Love that mindset.
@Mr3ppozz
@Mr3ppozz 11 ай бұрын
Might not be the biggest improvements.. I still enjoyed the video and the explaination! Thanks Jay
@evlkenevl2721
@evlkenevl2721 11 ай бұрын
I dunno, think I'll wait for the RTX 4070Ti Super Duper WTF BBQ edition.
@FriendlyPCGamers
@FriendlyPCGamers 10 ай бұрын
4090 Ultra Pro Max Noob Edition
@Nickeles020
@Nickeles020 10 ай бұрын
Insta buy!!!
@GoldenKnight702
@GoldenKnight702 Ай бұрын
I just got used 4070 ti cool ranch used 3.99
@OceansideCreations
@OceansideCreations 11 ай бұрын
Awesome. I was literally looking for this analysis. I would like to see more comparisons in 4k though
@BrandensOutdoorChannel
@BrandensOutdoorChannel 9 ай бұрын
Its not meant to be for 4k
@eugkra33
@eugkra33 11 ай бұрын
The RTX 4080 is 320w, not 350w. 350w might be for a factory OC model like a Strix. 10% ontop of the 4070ti Super is 313w, which isn't that far off from the Founder's Edition RTX 4080.
@SilverKnight16
@SilverKnight16 11 ай бұрын
Love that you got sponsored by Falcon Northwest. That's super cool :D
@thealien_ali3382
@thealien_ali3382 11 ай бұрын
I love you 💗
@aaronmohr8320
@aaronmohr8320 11 ай бұрын
I planned on getting this card, this kinda just makes even more happy I waited as long as I have for a new build
@anitaremenarova6662
@anitaremenarova6662 11 ай бұрын
This is like the best value Nvidia card to get right now. Overclocked 4080 performance with 16GB vram to not have to buy a new card next year.
@thealien_ali3382
@thealien_ali3382 11 ай бұрын
I am waiting for a 4080 super FE
@jesseslack2089
@jesseslack2089 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Jay for doing this alot of us appreciate it!
@formulaic78
@formulaic78 11 ай бұрын
It's interesting. But surely the 4080 can also overclock by a similar amount.
@jesseslack2089
@jesseslack2089 11 ай бұрын
@@formulaic78 I am hopeing that people will be able to Bios update teh TI Super Plus Ultra to "See" it as a 4080
@sevenstars0711
@sevenstars0711 11 ай бұрын
@@formulaic78 obviously, if you already have a 4080. But if you're looking to buy a new GPU now, you'd be brain-dead to buy a 4080
@Comfy_Bed
@Comfy_Bed 11 ай бұрын
Jesus "6 seconds ago" i need a life.
@stevemgilikson
@stevemgilikson 11 ай бұрын
Ping diff
@musclecargarage2875
@musclecargarage2875 11 ай бұрын
Is that a problem?
@bubbleaddict
@bubbleaddict 11 ай бұрын
I'm with you. Lol
@the_shameless
@the_shameless 11 ай бұрын
Better than not being able to watch videos until the end of your 14 hour shift lol
@TheProtagonist_777
@TheProtagonist_777 11 ай бұрын
You think He games?
@ryandann9362
@ryandann9362 11 ай бұрын
I remember getting my gtx275 sc for under $300, maybe nearer $250. I used to think of upgrading my gpu as buying a new console. I justified the price because I was going to get a step up in the graphics. If I wanted to splurge, I'd spend near a grand and get a whole new pc build. Now it's $800 just for the card!?! That's crazy stupid. After stupidly buying a 2080 ti, and then never using it(the switch released) I am not buying another new pc build until my pc flat out does not boot. Console gaming is now all I do exclusively. I can afford these new cards, but it's the principle of it that gets me. I'm not supporting this model anymore, when I can just get a ps5(which I haven't done until these survival horror games come out) and a new TV for the price of a gpu. I still keep up on pc gaming though.
@ffwast
@ffwast 11 ай бұрын
Alternatively, get a used card after a new generation comes out. I'll think about a 40 series once they hit eBay for a fraction of the price, if at all.
@ffwast
@ffwast 11 ай бұрын
(Consider a much better tv though,OLED really is that good)
@arkapadma
@arkapadma 10 ай бұрын
Peasant : OC to gain FPS. Aristrocrat: OC to brag each other expensive card.
@Hahahanoyes
@Hahahanoyes 8 ай бұрын
I have the crappy msi ventus version but i was able to hit 3000mhz core clock at +190 and keep memory at +1800 for a 1500mhz peak in the memory speed stable.
@C17H23NO2
@C17H23NO2 11 ай бұрын
Interesting to know that Port Royal importance regarding RT. Coincidentally I just finished the 2nd time of undervolting and "overclocking" my RTX 3070 and used Heaven for it. I think since I went for undervolting that shouldn't be a huge issue, but I also don't play any RT Titles at the moment. The Stock settings of the Asus Dual OC 3070 are just so terrible, you can't just plug and play it. Not much performance and the stock temperatures are horrible. Managed to get the Card from a 1.06V @1775 ( 1875 Mhz ) to a stable 0.9V @ 1935Mhz. Probably could push it further, but already super happy with it that way. Temps in my most played game dropped by 10°C, less power draw, same performance ( locked fps ) and so much more quiet. Haha. Love messing around with the hardware. So much fun.
@user-wt6jw3hj8p
@user-wt6jw3hj8p Ай бұрын
Brilliant! Only video that actually make a use of A103 die, Tremendous help, Thx!
@maxzett
@maxzett 11 ай бұрын
THIS is what I've been waiting for. Initially I was so stoked to get a 4070ti super, but the reviews rly made me go "meh". However I always wondered whether this thing might be an OC beast
@sevenstars0711
@sevenstars0711 11 ай бұрын
What GPU do you have now? I have a 1080ti and I can't wait to upgrade to the 4070ti super next week!
@TheRealName7
@TheRealName7 10 ай бұрын
​@@sevenstars0711or have a look to see if the Rx 7900xt prices drop, it would be a better option and better value
@dkindig
@dkindig 7 ай бұрын
I've had mine for about two months now and I'm getting ready to go in and do a serious run at OC, currently have been running DX12 at +120 clock, +1000 mem, clock running pretty consistently at around 2940, and getting performance within just a few frames of a base 4080 at 1440p. Definitely worth it for the savings. Hoping I can find a way to manually bump up voltage and push it further. Temps are excellent!
@GalantVR41062
@GalantVR41062 11 ай бұрын
This is a modern way to over clock gpus to run up to the maximum. It takes time but you can dial in the over clock in the curve editor. Tbis is the way to optimize the gpu at each voltage bin. I watch the temps, mv, and mhz during the bench mark and dial in the top points then interpolate down to my 2d base clocks. I have found this helps if power limit and voltage limit drop tbe mv down but the mhz stays up and causes a crash.
@802Garage
@802Garage 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. Gotta tune the Voltage curve.
@bborb
@bborb 11 ай бұрын
it doesnt really help 40 series from what i have seen
@mikezappulla4092
@mikezappulla4092 11 ай бұрын
@@bborbit doesn’t
@TAG-GAMING
@TAG-GAMING 11 ай бұрын
What's this? 17:27
@aeasus
@aeasus 11 ай бұрын
That was a great video, short, to the point, very informative. THX :)
@Roll_the_Bones
@Roll_the_Bones 11 ай бұрын
Nice work Jay, great demo of OCing Nvidia cards. RTX4000 cards are stuck to +5% max OC, like here. AMD 7800XT, 7900XT/XTX, all seem to go +15% if the cooler is up to it, so extremely good for raster, but obviously, they take a hit when it comes to RT, but that's no secret.
@leviathanpriim3951
@leviathanpriim3951 11 ай бұрын
really enjoy these OC vids, thanks Jay
@Holgdor
@Holgdor 6 ай бұрын
What about the stability test in Port Royal? Benchmarks tends to run fine, but frames rendered often fails that on high clocks. I'm running a 4070Ti.
@olegvorkunov5400
@olegvorkunov5400 8 ай бұрын
I have MSI 4080 Super OC and it is already overclocked. When I boost some clock for GPU and memory 250/500, I get about 4% boost, which is not noticeable. Rendering the same file in Davinci is getting boost from 9m 12s to 8m 50s. But would rather have more stable system than trying to gain more than 4-5% in performance boost.
@orangea9458
@orangea9458 11 ай бұрын
I did some good experimentation (mostly synthetics as well as one esports game, Asphalt 9 running at 500+fps) and posted my findings on the nvidia subreddit. I have a 4070 ti zotac amp holo, which allows my slider +20% power. This made a huge difference and I was able to comfortably get memory clocks to 12501 stable, by maxing out the slider in afterburner. I also got the core stable to 3030mhz with a +258 increase. These results put it roughly halfway between the 7900xtx and 4080 according to your previous testing. And put it far above the 4070 Ti. I do still feel the power limit HEAVILY even at this point though so I'd love to see what a custom vbios or other mod could do for this card.
@harrygeoffrion4520
@harrygeoffrion4520 10 ай бұрын
Asphalt 9 as an esports game?? What
@orangea9458
@orangea9458 10 ай бұрын
@@harrygeoffrion4520 hahaha it absolutely is one
@Bastey
@Bastey 11 ай бұрын
Such a good video with the step by steps and explanations. Sometimes you just need that kinda reminder again that it takes time and small steps
@rcflightsimmer579
@rcflightsimmer579 11 ай бұрын
I think you might have misspoke near the beginning... The RTX 4080 is 320W TDP, not 350.. Now subscribed. Really enjoy your vids. Thanks!
@brianb6453
@brianb6453 11 ай бұрын
Jay is right...this card will go down as the sweet spot 40 series card. Glad you can now get 16 gigs of ram in the 70 bin. You could get 16 at launch with the 60ti, but with a memory subsystem that couldn't fully realize the buffer.
@PoRRasturvaT
@PoRRasturvaT 11 ай бұрын
70 bin? Dude this is $800 MSRP. Don't get fooled by numbers written on the box.
@rustler08
@rustler08 11 ай бұрын
LMAO, no it won't. This is a $800 card that gets outperformed by a $650 AMD card. Remember that in 2020 $699 got you a 3080, which offered 50% more performance than the outgoing top card (2080 Ti). Meanwhile, this shitbox card gets like 15% more performance than the 3090 and is like 26% faster than a 3080. The sweet spot for the 40-series is buy a 4090 or buy AMD.
@Oliver-sn4be
@Oliver-sn4be 10 ай бұрын
I agree the 4000 series are all a scam only the 4090 is good rest pricy and low preformenc go amd or 4090 or w8 a bit more and get a 5000 series
@RobertRidgley
@RobertRidgley 11 ай бұрын
Great to see Falcon NW come on board as a sponsor.
@EfrainMan
@EfrainMan 11 ай бұрын
Time to test if a 4080 Bios will work on this lol
@Dan-Simms
@Dan-Simms 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, that would be a great test
@Th3Fly1ngCow
@Th3Fly1ngCow 11 ай бұрын
Bios flash and increased power limits and bam cheap[er] 4080
@Cool-kk2vl
@Cool-kk2vl 11 ай бұрын
maybe 16 pin 4070 can work with 4070 s bios?
@codehammer10
@codehammer10 11 ай бұрын
going to use Gfrad on my GPU once it arrives. see what type of perfomance increases i can get.
@joshd.9304
@joshd.9304 11 ай бұрын
was thinking the exact same thing.
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 11 ай бұрын
Great rundown in this. I really wish some board jockey put something up that shows a mod that can boost the wattage. Even if it is just to 300 watts. Maybe also a mod to offload power usage from fans and RGB.
@mrthesquid
@mrthesquid 11 ай бұрын
I mean you could just water cool it. . . or pull the fans off the header on the board and use an extension to a fan controller or mobo header. You can do the same with the RGB. It would be a frankenstein experiment but still doable.
@UmbongoEnjoyer
@UmbongoEnjoyer 11 ай бұрын
Most won't show the "shunt mod" in detail - they will talk about it, but given the power involved, most will not want to be responsible for the resulting fires... ;-)
@jayce8001
@jayce8001 11 ай бұрын
@ChrisDowns No fires if done rIght. But most won't do it because then Daddy Nvidia will remove early access and trips to trade shows. Mods like these are fairly easy once they are pinpointed. I miss the days of slashdot and actually not being afraid when the GUI crashes because people still know how to use command line.
@sharlatandjaul3739
@sharlatandjaul3739 6 ай бұрын
How can he incrase power limit to 110% ? Mine can only go to 100% in afterburner
@direct34
@direct34 4 ай бұрын
You can set the V/F in the curve chart what are you talking about? Lock your V/F curve to 1075mv 1100mv isn't even safe for the memory controller. Transient loads greater than 125mv @ 1075mv will exceed the 1.2v which nvidia purposefully hardcaps.
@LotoTheHero
@LotoTheHero 11 ай бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@TheRudolph92
@TheRudolph92 5 ай бұрын
Timestamp: 14:00 Why do you say that GDDR6X is ECC memory? It is not.
@jshennessy
@jshennessy 11 ай бұрын
Jay the statement of the 4070 Ti Super being the best value overall card, I don't think it will still be true once the 4080 super comes out if someone could get a card at a MSRP. But the 4080 Super may be the best bang for your buck card and the longest lasting GPU to hang onto for years to come as a 4k Gaming GPU. I still have my 3080 and it still games great at 4k with triple A games. Can't wait to see your breakdown on the 4080 super and if it will be worth upgrading from the 3080 for 4k gaming and editing
@xelvania1581
@xelvania1581 9 ай бұрын
I upgraded from a 1080 to a 1440 ultrawide a few years back, so the 4070 ti super is probably the best card for a 2k gaming experience, I would assume.
@atherasia
@atherasia 11 ай бұрын
Finally, Falcon Northwest sponsors.
@karlos1060
@karlos1060 11 ай бұрын
I am wondering how the Asus rog strix 4070 TI Super will do in overclocking. I believe the powerlimit is 366 watts wich would bring it much closer to a 4080 then the reference models. For me a couple % more or less is not important as i value the power saving and temps and low acoustics over some extra fps with more heat and noise.
@FactsOverFear.
@FactsOverFear. 8 ай бұрын
Just curious same test 4K with same card where would fps land? Currently 4080 is about $500 higher so thinking not worth it?
@wallofcrys22
@wallofcrys22 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see you guys do some voltage mods on 4k Series cards
@xeakira
@xeakira 6 ай бұрын
How are you able to get +110 power limit?
@And_Rec
@And_Rec 9 ай бұрын
Arent the 2 pcie cables capable of only 300w max? you had 305w probably the crash was due to overpower protection from the PSU (i hope) or it can melt everything back there
@Bojeezy
@Bojeezy 11 ай бұрын
Looking good Jay. Hopefully, everything is looking up. Sending good vibes your way.
@disguiseddv8ant486
@disguiseddv8ant486 11 ай бұрын
He literally look the same before, during, and after he said it. What happened to Nick and Phil doing the reviews?
@jokercardzz
@jokercardzz 11 ай бұрын
Hey Jay! Love your vids man, especially the overclocking ones. I just recently built my first PC, and am so excited to start overclocking my parts for the first time. My question is, in what order should I start OCing my hardware? Between CPU, GPU, and RAM, is there a good order you should OC things to ensure you're squeezing every last drop out of these and getting the best performance you can? Or is it ok to OC whichever hardware you want, when you want, as the differences are negligible? Sorry, I dont have twitter or I'd have tagged you in a tweet about this
@BrandensOutdoorChannel
@BrandensOutdoorChannel 8 ай бұрын
Set xmp for ram. Then oc your cpu first. Then gpu. One at a time.
@yugdesiral
@yugdesiral 9 ай бұрын
dollar per frame the 4070 ti super was an easy buy for me. couldn't rationalize the price jump to 4080 even without any oc on the ti super.
@magnomliman8114
@magnomliman8114 8 ай бұрын
100%
@jaketoast6095
@jaketoast6095 11 ай бұрын
For a brief moment, i thought WOW Jay can manage to go through a whole video without a car analogy, but damn i was wrong
@802Garage
@802Garage 11 ай бұрын
You could almost definitely get more gains with lower temps by tuning the voltage curve. 👍
@Aurummorituri
@Aurummorituri 11 ай бұрын
No voltage curve. 👎 It lowers secret clocks/shuts off core clusters in the background and lowers performance with Ada architecture. It works wonders on my 3090, but those days are over.
@802Garage
@802Garage 11 ай бұрын
@@Aurummorituri Ah. I've seen people saying it doesn't work on the 4000 series. That's annoying.
@Aurummorituri
@Aurummorituri 11 ай бұрын
@@802Garage You can lower your power draw and temps, but it's no longer "free". To be fair it is not as essential as it was on the 30-series. That Samsung 8nm process is hella power hungry. 3090 performance differed greatly if you had a model with two or three 8-pin connectors. My FTW3 could pull 480W past 2GHz with a dirty OC. Undervolting dropped it to 450W max with most games under 420W and still hold 2Ghz. Ada Lovelace is much more power efficient.
@802Garage
@802Garage 11 ай бұрын
@@Aurummorituri Thanks for the info!
@georgewhite5794
@georgewhite5794 11 ай бұрын
As this has the 4080 chip I knew Jay was going to make this video. Was wondering this since the rumors of the specs for this card
@WindowsPlaysFPS
@WindowsPlaysFPS 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge bombs on this video.
@davidwachtveitl7755
@davidwachtveitl7755 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Jay, great video.
@TurboJailer
@TurboJailer 11 ай бұрын
So what's to keep someone from modding the vbios to raise the power limits so you can achieve 4080 level performance?
@anitaremenarova6662
@anitaremenarova6662 11 ай бұрын
Nothing really, you don't even need to mod anything just get a 4070tiS with a higher power limit.
@MadRabbit92
@MadRabbit92 10 ай бұрын
Ok, so on more modern cards overclocking your gpu isn’t making much of a difference. But is it still worth it downloading afterburner and maxing out the power slider?
@Zetraxes
@Zetraxes 11 ай бұрын
By your logic where the fans take from the overall power limit isnt a waterblock the better option for overclocking here?
@VndNvwYvvSvv
@VndNvwYvvSvv 11 ай бұрын
It's negligible either way
@Zetraxes
@Zetraxes 11 ай бұрын
@@VndNvwYvvSvv that's the same story of the life of the 4070 ti super
@richardbarnhurst5789
@richardbarnhurst5789 3 ай бұрын
I'm looking to jump from an Rx 6950 xt to a 4080s but I'm re-watching the vids for 4070 ti super also as there's only about max 15% difference, I just need a it more guidance tbh, I've also been told by a couple of people you may as well wait for the 5070/5080 to come out but I'm not sure what to do
@Hellblaue210
@Hellblaue210 11 ай бұрын
the 16 gb on the 4070 is great for our office application which needs extra vram, i could see this card being great for students as well who are messing around with modeling type software and need the vram but cant spend a lot, i think people are writing this card off but it actually has a huge use case. My office cant spend 2k on a 4090 but 700 bucks for a 4070 is amazing.
@matthewward1346
@matthewward1346 9 ай бұрын
That's where m at I'm making a career change into 3d animation (or hoping to) and so there's no way I can justify a 4090, but the VRAM cache on this card is EXAXTLY what I need for my unreal scenes, at a price I can just about manage.
@ravenstarfire8816
@ravenstarfire8816 Ай бұрын
@@matthewward1346 If your worried about 2k on 24GB on a 4090 go with the 3090 24GB for just $600 in the used market. Although the 4070Ti Super 16GB performs much better then the 3090 with better power efficiency as well.
@thomas-NK
@thomas-NK 11 ай бұрын
Could you power the fans externally to gain some few more watts out of the overclock? Or will the card refuse to work with no fans connected?🤔
@mrdisem
@mrdisem 2 ай бұрын
Can someone explain why my 4070 ti super doesn't go higher than 2940mhz for me, when I see it's not kinda struggling with power and uses 1075mV on the last curve and doesn't go higher than 65C?
@tresnugget
@tresnugget 11 ай бұрын
You can see the tgp in gpuz under the advanced tab after selecting vbios in the pull down. Also unlocking voltage control is usually a pain with afterburner not that it would be helpful with the power limit
@408civettethreat
@408civettethreat 2 ай бұрын
Improvement yes and thank you for making the video. But to me 8fps just isn’t worth the extra heat and time it takes to find the max oc ❤
@superjimse
@superjimse 11 ай бұрын
So hypothetically Could you wire the gpu fans to the motherboard instead to get more power headroom for the core?
@SilverTwinFTW
@SilverTwinFTW 11 ай бұрын
Yes, as long as you had enough headroom (full load amps) from that device providing power. Whether it’s a mobo header or fan hub supplying the power.
@TheOne2Know
@TheOne2Know 11 ай бұрын
Not a hypothetical - ive done this myself! Had a Zotac 3070 that came with a 2 fan shroud. I removed the shroud and stock fans and ty-rapped 2 120mm Noctuas to the heat sink and used a 1 to 2 PWM splitter to allow 2 fans to plug into 1 4pin header on motherboard. When I did this without touching anything else I got about a 50 MHz boost avg just running stock. However there was a downside - cant set fans to ramp up and down based off of GPU core temp or hotspot temp as those settings arent exposed in my motherboard (or most mobos I think) So I had to use 3rd party software in windows to control the fans based off GPU core temps. I also tried using the 2 noctuas with 2 into 1 splitter then going into a mini PWM header - the kind that the fans connect too on the GPU. Looks like a 4 pin PWM header just a lot smaller. I thought doing this I would be able to run my own fans and the GPU would see them as its own and thus id be able to set the fans to ramp using GPU temps just like normal. However, I found out that the header could not supply enough current to spin both my Noctuas at full speed. They have a 2000 rpm top speed roughly and I cant remmeber the exact number as this was a few years ago but I believe the highest I could get them to go was 1200 or 1400 rpm which would have negated any cooling benefit putting these non OEM fans on would have given me! TLDR: Yes you can and you will gain additional headroom for OC or a lower operating temp at the same fan speed, but need 3rd party fan control software to control fans based off GPU temps
@OLDAD_
@OLDAD_ 6 ай бұрын
Just built my first pc with this GPU- thanks for the video!!
@legendofthefall7082
@legendofthefall7082 10 ай бұрын
Can you overclock the 7900 XT next? From what I understand it has quite a bit of OC headroom and the Adrenalin software is a joy to use.
@wallacelovecraft8942
@wallacelovecraft8942 11 ай бұрын
2:57 Reduce your score? Who's using windows without defender on?
@kdcampo
@kdcampo 11 ай бұрын
not gonna lie im with the ending statment. i dont have fun overclocking anymore. i had fun overclocking my 1070 back when i built my first computer. but with my 3070ti. just doing a simple +100 it would work fine in timespy, but randomly crash in a few min of lies of p gameplay at 1440p. and the +100 didnt even get me that much more performance.
@anitaremenarova6662
@anitaremenarova6662 11 ай бұрын
You probably had one of the models not designed for overclocking.
@BEARTAC0S
@BEARTAC0S 11 ай бұрын
I can only go about +150 +500 on my 3070ti FE and it’s honestly not even worth the extra power consumption of almost 300w total
@Trontasia
@Trontasia 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate the info 👍
@vinak963
@vinak963 11 ай бұрын
I mean. We got Asus here trying to upcharge a 4070 ti Super 150 bucks for a 100 MHz overclock... Or Zotac upcharging 40 dollars for 15 MHz. Could use some Buyer Beware videos as well as the fun OC videos...
@stever7638
@stever7638 11 ай бұрын
I guess ASUS didn't get the memo that these GPU's have been overpriced, and even $800 is alot and we are trying to get back to normal here. That's a red flag for me with ASUS, I like them, but noted that they are gouging minimal gains. I'll go AMD if this keeps up.
@Giliver
@Giliver 11 ай бұрын
i wish so badly i could go AMD but i use Nvidia broadcoast all the time so its a deal breaker. (and no there is no free alternative) I'm jealous of those who don't feel tied down by Nvidias features.@@stever7638
@kent6732
@kent6732 11 ай бұрын
The Asus TUF is MSRP at Microcenter.
@potatoskins8155
@potatoskins8155 11 ай бұрын
Yeah in the UK there are some 4070ti super cards selling going for £940 😂 you can buy a 7900xtx for that money
@stever7638
@stever7638 11 ай бұрын
@@potatoskins8155 AMD will likely address the ray tracing with the 5000 series, and with RT being a small factor along with Nvidea not having a huge presence with RT, makes AMD look more viable. Sure Nvidea does RT in a somewhat, mild acceptable manner...they surely don't make games playable under $800..so why bother. I will surely boycott the current price gougers, as a 7900 XT or even the XTX is very future proof at 1440P. Who cares about max settings, 16X AA at 4K? Turn AA down to 2X or off and just about every card works at 1440P above $300 w/o RT.
@ComeonmenID10T
@ComeonmenID10T 9 ай бұрын
got me a 4070 TI Super , thanks for the example, i like that it runs so nice cool, even in the OC, have you tried to undervolt it to see if it still performs the same or close to ?
@hunterlynk9326
@hunterlynk9326 11 ай бұрын
Got a question for you, Jay. I've got a 4070ti, and after a few planned upgrades to the rest of my system, I want to do a custom water cooling loop but I don't know what brands I should trust for a GPU water block, as EK doesn't make them for anything below the 4080
@FlexWheeler88
@FlexWheeler88 11 ай бұрын
Alphacool and Bykski make waterblocks for the 4070ti and they both work pretty good
@shofla
@shofla 11 ай бұрын
Jay overclocking content lets gooo
@Mr.Morales-t4o
@Mr.Morales-t4o 10 ай бұрын
Great video! I followed your steps and manage to get some overclocking done. Here are my Overclocks on my Gigabyte Gaming 4070 Ti Super, Power limit } 112% Core +225 } 3000-3030 mhz Mem +1500 } 12000 - 12010 mhz w/custom fan speed.
@mooreeau
@mooreeau 6 ай бұрын
Hi buddy, Is this setting still stable with you?
@Im_bored_very_very_bored
@Im_bored_very_very_bored 11 ай бұрын
This was a great video jay keep it up!
@donc3274
@donc3274 10 ай бұрын
Sir awesome videos.. Sooo if you add a liquid cooled card will that help to OC these even more?
@Hahahanoyes
@Hahahanoyes 8 ай бұрын
Your benchmark for 4080 in horizon 5 got 148 fps at 1440p. There’s something up there. Different settings or game was patched
@leevine2929
@leevine2929 5 ай бұрын
running the 4070ti super on a corsair 750e with only 2 pcie can i overclock worried the psu not up to it
@TenInfi
@TenInfi 11 ай бұрын
What is the software you monitor the power limits? Is it built into Afterburner?
@_Quint_
@_Quint_ 9 ай бұрын
I have this exact card and so I'm thinking I'm completely safe to essentially follow the steps shown and hopefully achieve a very similar stable overclock? I have a 5600x CPU.
@itsdeonlol
@itsdeonlol 11 ай бұрын
W Falcon Northwest!
@rattlehead999
@rattlehead999 11 ай бұрын
The 7800XT can overclock a lot for a modern GPU, upwards of 14-18%.
@Ladioz
@Ladioz 11 ай бұрын
Yeah but then it will use too much power. Better keep it at stock and cap frames. It will run cooler and quiet
@braxfl7462
@braxfl7462 11 ай бұрын
​@@Ladioz depends on which model you buy, I have a sapphire nitro and I have it as max as I can possibly go. 980mv undervolt, 2600 mem, 15% power limit, and 3200 boost clock. I have the fans set to max 60% and it always runs cool and quiet, fans don't even kick on until 2 hours or so. It gets me roughly 16% more performance across all games I play. Its almost 4070 ti level for $540 is what I paid
@rattlehead999
@rattlehead999 11 ай бұрын
@@Ladioz The rx 7800XT consumes less than the rtx 4070 Ti.
@Ladioz
@Ladioz 11 ай бұрын
The best thing about 7800XT is that it barely gets hot, the same with 7700XT. both are designed so well. However I would go for the 2 fan card, to be more silent and spread less heat in the case@@braxfl7462
@RX7800XTBenchmarks
@RX7800XTBenchmarks 11 ай бұрын
​@@braxfl7462 same. I have the 7800 xt gigabyte oc, temperatures don't get above 60, and rarely even hits that. Mainly floating between 50-56. I'm also going blow for blow with the 4070 ti, even beating it in some games. I'll take that for $300 less. Im also using the fsr3 md, and I'm getting the same ray tracing performance as the 4070 in cyberpunk. The 7800xt overclocked is crazy crazy value.
@mikepict9011
@mikepict9011 6 ай бұрын
I got the 4070ti s over a 7900xtx because it plays smother and the thermals . Lower fps .... but it FEELS smoother weird
@fallenlegion1828
@fallenlegion1828 2 ай бұрын
You need to use the beta version of MSI afterburner to get the voltage control for these new super cards
@G98SH
@G98SH 11 ай бұрын
I was looking at the Gigabyte Aero OC for 1189$ CAD (1343$ after 13% tax). Msrp of the 4080S is 1344$ CAD which has about 175$ tax. I think for 175$ id be stupid to not go for the 4080S
@teejay6315
@teejay6315 11 ай бұрын
Great video Jay 💚
@Xzyjj
@Xzyjj 2 күн бұрын
Hello! Can you please tell if the real numbers of overclock values are still soemthing people have to experiment with after testing in programs initially? I noticed that I was able to get to 245 / 1540 and it was stable in programs, but as I started playing cyberpunk with path tracing the game would crash every 10 minutes or so, so after tinkering for a while I came to the 180/1200 numbers which felt pretty stable. Is this something normal or the problem could be with cyberpunk spefically? Is there a guaranteed ways to test the stability of your OC?
@riuos
@riuos 11 ай бұрын
Nice thank you! I just picked up that same card when it dropped!
@120woodcraft
@120woodcraft 10 ай бұрын
Palit Gaming Pro 4070ti super has the power limit maxed at 100%. Any idea how to get the extra 10% or is this card locked?
@AirspotterUK
@AirspotterUK 10 ай бұрын
Hi Jay, Hope you well, I have a GTX1070 OC now and its like 6 years old, Now its time for an upgrade, Im thinking a 4070TI Super. what manufacture or recomendations do you or any viewers in the comments have?
@stever7638
@stever7638 11 ай бұрын
Well done video, hope you're doing well sir! Three years ago, without covid fallout, this is right about where this performance should be priced....at its max.
@thesecretreviewer8242
@thesecretreviewer8242 8 ай бұрын
burnt a card doing this. it had the really strange effect of sort of seeing through walls. The other players would be slightly visible due to some sort of rendering issue. Lot of static though, but did still run.
@DrLogic_
@DrLogic_ 8 ай бұрын
You burnt a card because you ignored every warning. Hopefully you learned from this experience and haven’t kept playing a game while there were visual bugs.
@dreadtrain2846
@dreadtrain2846 5 ай бұрын
That's on you.
@jeremywagoner2284
@jeremywagoner2284 18 күн бұрын
Could I just copy these clock settings for my gpu? I have the same exact gpu as used in this video
@crashbug4343
@crashbug4343 11 ай бұрын
This is a video I wanted to see!
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