NYC Man Dies After Getting Stabbed In Fight Over Bad Manners

A New York City man died after being stabbed in a fight that stemmed from not receiving a thank you when he held a door open for the suspect at a smoke shop. The two started fighting in the shop and moved outside where the victim was stabbed in the abdomen and neck before the suspect escaped on an e-bike. WNBC's Adam Harding.
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#NYC #Stabbing #Crime

[@royaldiadem_]

Sadly the guy who died was clearly the aggressor and hit the suspect first and was taunting him outside to continue to fight. It’s important to Silence your Ego it may save your Life.

[@prowebmaster5873]

that's honestly no reason to stab him in the neck like that, wtf? isn't it common knowledge by now that there are several mentally disturbed individuals out there?, stabbing them isnt helping anyone. hope he'll see this video of his victim's Mom crying, stunned, wondering why....

[@browndemon386]

True but the stabber is still going to prison for many years. He'll probably off himself in there.

[@TheRewdy40]

@@prowebmaster5873 Stand your ground

[@dicktracy5234]

@@browndemon386 I hope not .

[@dey714]

True

[@damnjustassignmeone]

The guy tried to leave on his bike, but the victim hit and blocked him. This was self defense. Sorry to the mother, but your son had anger problems.

[@applehappyx-files2456]

yup

[@lowhp_comic]

Unreasonable force though. He blocked him with his unarmed body, he decided to brandish a knife he had on his person. The victim isn't exactly innocent, but self defense is an overstretch

[@jmcc8718]

It's funny how you guys can notice the victims the antagonist, but when it comes to police doing the same thing you say the police are evil and corrupt

[@rnegoro1]

@@lowhp_comic It's self defense because it's an encroachment of space.

[@chrisdaniel2759]

@@lowhp_comic And battered him. If someone is kidnapping and battering you it’s reasonable to move up the use of force continuum to respond to the threat.

[@pipeflush]

Thats the most aggressive victim I've ever seen.

[@korydavis9855]

Why do they call him the victim when clearly he was the aggressor ?

[@Lucid-1111]

Business owners

[@urinetrouble4999]

He was a murder victim, don't be dense

[@korydavis9855]

@@urinetrouble4999 perfect logic.

[@sinoverlord409]

Because that's what this bs country does

[@milkiesLoverboi69]

@@urinetrouble4999If I picked a fight with a gorilla and obviously lost would you call me a victim? No right. Its natural selection. Then why would should we call him a victim when he was the one trying to pick a fight with a stranger, you never do that, you never know what people carry with themselves and what people are capable off

[@sargentcool1882]

He talked first, he taunted first, he swung first, he died first. He did it all first.

[@onehorsepower]

The stabber had his knife out already at 0:35 so I'm not sure he had all the firsts... Then again why go argue with someone with a knife in their hand... Victim certainly played his part. Overall sad story.

[@slimpickens3863]

"If you're not first you're last" -- Ricky Bobby

[@fein4569]

seems a great country where you can be killed because of a "daily" stuff... and people defending the "SWORD" wealding customer.. xD USA USA USA!!

[@JohnWicksPencil14]

@@slimpickens3863 "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders

[@Francedefence]

@@fein4569 No! The guy with the knife is rude! Now, was it worth dying??? I don't think so!

[@b.patrickbrowning2349]

If you're willing to start a fight with a stranger for not saying something you want. or expect them to say, things are gonna go real bad for you sooner or later.

[@0Logan05]

That’s todays liberals…Todays Democrats Todays Media.. The left is a Societal Cancer

[@tiffanylittleton4244]

Some battles are not worth fighting, he didn't owe him a Thank you really sometimes you just have to do things for people and not expect shot in return or don't do it at all

[@caughtoncamera27]

Ppl are so easily to be so called disrespected. Smh. Now he lost his life over bs.

[@tyroneaugustine229]

Moral Of The Story, Nobody Owes You Anything that hits different with this story.

[@user-gn8eb4ii9p]

IS THAT A THREAT?

[@jasonharrison4971]

If you expect acknowledgement for being kind, are you really being kind?

[@jessb8585]

No you’re not

[@kevinsullivan2362]

that's deep

[@misshoneynevercame4832]

Yup, that's all ego

[@jasonfreed1083]

That was my first thought.

[@roninhood1027]

People should have common decency though.

[@punkeasy]

He was stabbed because his ego wouldn't let it go.

[@emilioaymat5651]

Everyone has an ego, even those of you who deny it or glorify being selfless and stupid because being Egoistic is to be naturalistic and instinctual. If ya didn`t have any Ego, ya would`nt be able to fulfill your desires and you`d be a mentally inferior person as are so many peeps whose heads are poisoned by politics and/or religion.

[@lalakuma9]

Honestly the victim is the kind of person I'm scared of when I'm out in public: easily triggered by little things and gets totally unhinged in a split second. I guess he didn't realize that someone would actually fight him back.

[@dr.rickbooty]

It's common courtesy to say thanks when someone holds the door open for you though. However, when the man did not say thanks, he should not have confronted him over it.

[@mikefay4323]

You said that perfectly. Unhinged is an excellent description. Her son is society's worst nightmare.

[@strangerthanfiction2790]

@Dr. Rick Booty yeah I agree. But don't expect kindness to be reciprocated the way we wanted it to be. Most of the times I held the door open, in a self-effacing way, not expecting anything in return

[@MrLong-mb3pk]

Don't have to be In fear of the victim anymore. The suspect is the true victim here

[@MV-nt4bq]

We live in a society where people would rather die instead of saying thank you, I guess he took his pride to the grave.

[@SenorJuan2023]

The victim knew the other guy had a knife and still wanted to fight. That's some high level stupidity there.

[@charliebates9098]

🤣 very high!

[@sparda9060]

Speedrunning Darwinism Category....

[@ShaneMawhirt]

He had it our in the store when they were fighting didnt he

[@dismantledbrain5910]

@@ShaneMawhirt Yes, and then the fight de-escalated, as you can see the guy get on his bike to take off, but the victim went in for a punch for some reason.

[@thetoymanator7723]

never bring a bare hand to a knife-fight...

[@Momo-bb2fn]

The “attacker?” You mean the dude who was just trying to ride away on his bike but kept being pressed and smacked by the other man ? Lesson to be learned: don’t hold doors for others if you’re willing to let it cost you your life.

[@garagegorilla5x5]

This is why stoicism is so important to me and a major part of how I live my life. Good luck to all parties involved.

[@stk6mkt]

I act the same way. You really don't have a choice in this sick world.

[@garagegorilla5x5]

@stk6mkt it's always a choice, even not making a choice is a choice.....

[@stk6mkt]

@garagegorilla5x5 The point is that there are so many psychos out there, you just have to mind your own business and hope you make it through the day.

[@dorbie]

The dead guy is not a victim, he's a bully and the aggressor here. He started this, kept pursuing it and it cost him his life.

[@mountbrocken]

Bingo!

[@Everettel]

Yes it looked like the guy was getting on his bike but the victim kept going toward him.

[@dorenjackson1166]

He literally barked up the wrong tree. The victim shouldn’t be charged with anything

[@ccrider3435]

+1 Sometimes I feel like trash needs to be confronted but my training kicks in. Looks like the guy with the knife showed a lot of restraint, until he didnt because he couldn't. I get the feeling there are more people glad the victim is gone than are sad he's gone.

[@djfearross4144]

He politely held the door open for someone.

[@D.Gallardo]

The suspect did not have to say thank you, you cannot expect anything from anyone or you’ll be sadly disappointed.

[@kaleilw]

So true

[@AlexG-tp2ik]

Yeah being a "thank you" Nazi is a dumb reason to pick a fight.

[@pricklypear7516]

Dude. You don't understand. He got "disrespected"! When you've done nothing in your life to actually EARN respect, you get really sensitive about real or percieved "disrespect."

[@romeoh4859]

Or dead apparently

[@wandasanders9043]

FACTS.

[@uniqueauction]

Bad manners? Bad decision. You got what you deserve. Don't play victim after you got caught. You started it. The person just ended it.

[@singloc3021]

This is a horrible tragedy, no one should have gotten hurt or die over this. I have opened the door for people and yes, sometimes I don't get a thank you. I understand that it is polite to say thank you but please people, don't expect it. If people never say thank you for opening the door, would you no longer open the door for people? Do kind things for the act, not the recognition!

[@Light23K]

Don’t ever expect anything in return, you do it because you have a good heart.

[@4_youtube_is_dead]

why

[@paulflores490]

Exactly! i just commented on this. Live & let live

[@4_youtube_is_dead]

you cant do it if youre faithless, good heart isnt motivation.

[@irishamerican4558]

I like that. Do good now, the changes it makes are a long way away, but they are real. Do it for love not compensation.

[@jimdoe3288]

I expect to be bonded out by BLM if I resist the police and demand justice though

[@PeterPHasVids]

He didn't want to be identified, but gave a full interview, and his place of work is disclosed. Great job.

[@stephensmyth6363]

Was thinking exact same thing 😅

[@kanakalatahembram1650]

I think the media team made a mistake somewhere.

[@18000rpm]

Well, do you know his name? That's the point.

[@PeterPHasVids]

@@18000rpm I'll simplify it. Since the assailant's family lives in the same neighborhood as the witness that did the interview, it's criminally easy to go straight to where the witness works. No name needed.

[@positiveego5397]

@@18000rpm what a nitwit question. Do CCTV cameras identify criminals names as well? They get you the images then you use that to get other details of the suspect. For a TV interview video which is a lot easier to acquire and much clearer, it won't take long to find him.

[@crownking2000]

Best defense against a knife? Run.

[@jeffprice4376]

I can't even imagine how many times I've held a door for someone and they didn't say thank you, it never even crossed my mind that I was being disrespected, especially not to the degree that it's worth forfeiting my life over. If you're only being courteous to people because you expect a reward or acknowledgment in return, then you're already doing it for the wrong reasons.

[@tonysamuel4694]

I feel like the “victim” was looking for a fight just wanted any reason to start on somebody.

[@johnnydo6410]

You r absolutely right? When I give money to help out anyone I never think about it and never expect return?

[@heather2418]

This. I think it's about 50/50 here when I hold a door open for the person nearest to me. I don't do it for a thank you, and I would never tell anyone to thank me for it. This guy was a jerk, not a victim. I hope the real victim gets a very good lawyer, and this stories "victim's" mother should be ashamed of herself for even going on camera. You don't raise someone to demand thank yous like an entitled brat, especially for something so simple and not asked for.

[@tonysamuel4694]

@@heather2418 I totally agree. I’ll admit I felt salty a time or a few not getting a thank you but it just isn’t that serious.

[@riseandshinemrfriman5925]

Very ignorant comment, in many ways.

[@walterbrown2425]

Very nice of him to hold the door for the guy, all the rest was uncalled for! I’m sure the mother is hurting but making her son into a “victim” is the wrong angle for this piece

[@cain8134]

Agreed

[@billsloan]

Her Son was the one stabbed.

[@Hardlabor1978]

Not a victim, a bully who brought his own demise.

[@rvlifestylelivin]

too bad she didnt teach her son manners, she will forever feel the pain of not teaching her son to have better sense! he smacked a guy that was holding a knife, he thought the guy was to scared to use it. He learned a lesson he cant come back from!

[@kevinmoore4807]

@@billsloan yeah and he asked for it.js

[@blhtml]

attacking someone that hard for NOT saying thanks WOW that guy had some issues

[@Bailemos888]

too many people on the streets of NYC with mental issues, its scary.

[@Kharkovkid]

I had a very similar situation happen. Two younger men walked in the store ahead of me. The one behind, stopped and held the door for me. So I put my hand up to my head in a silent salute / gratitude gesture. The door holders friend didn`t see it, or hear my Thank You! So he told my buddy I was a scum bag who didn`t say Thank You. And the door holder said, "yeah he did..."

[@bugsymalone5744]

And when did the stabbing begin? Later that night during a treesome?

[@iLoveBoysandBerries]

I don't think the victim was the victim. This looks like self defense

[@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645]

100%

[@coryc9040]

Think you're probably right

[@YesItsReallyKeith]

yeah if you are going to confront someone for not getting a thank you and then start to get pushy and physical!!!!! but not sure carrying such a large knife is legal in that area.... ? it will all depend on witnesses and camera !!!

[@lowhp_comic]

Unreasonable force though.

[@ColinoDeani]

It was

[@jeffryancarlson3273]

Living in NYC and opening doors for people out of respect everywhere I go and I do this everyday. That was how I was raised. Majority of people who walked through the door didn’t thank me. Know what I did? Nothing. I just wish them all a blessed day.

[@cloudman8911]

Good Boy.

[@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV.]

in 1985 when i was 21 I bumped into a young black guy in the mall..i am white by the way, just part of the story....neither of us wanted to move out of the way and we collided shoulder to shoulder somewhat....he looked in his late teens, but was way smaller then me....i went into a store and about 5 minutes later i was met by the kid i bumped into and an older black male who was about 40....the older male said to me "You bumped into my friend and I want you to say your sorry to him"....I got a bad feeling about this and said I was sorry....the older male said "Thank God"....and they left me....looking back years later I do believe that could have been my death day by either a gun or knife....at the end of the day it is not worth marking your territory so to speak against someone who you will never see again...

[@jeffryancarlson3273]

Colliding someone just as you just described, I’m always the first to apologize. It is not out of weakness but a moment you can push past rather than letting it fester. I don’t believe it should have a future should there be a consequence whichever direction it favors. I’ve seen a documentary where a guy punched other and killed him in the process. I said to myself it isn’t gonna happen to me. I’m gonna apologize and walk away. I get annoyed a lot, especially in NYC, I just wish them a blessed day and move on.

[@Magneticvortex-kk4gb]

i can open my own door - shut that door so i can open it myself or else its war mother tucker.

[@StephenDoty84]

Yes, good idea. This guy was spoiling for a fight, anyway, suspect.

[@jackjohnson9449]

This is crazy. Why did he continue attacking a man with a knife?

[@tac3016]

The "victim" sadly died for his lack of control. The other guy was defending himself making this act justifiable.

[@RandomUserrr360]

Anyone else not really feel bad? Why was the "victim" pressing up against a stranger that much over opening the door? Once someone pulls a knife or a gun out, the only thing worth fighting for is your life, not who has more manners... This is ridiculous.

[@Omni0404]

"He'll never stab me!" -Stab Wound Victim

[@chltmdwp]

The fact that this is in NYC makes me to carelesseven more.

[@HomesForSaleEnsenada]

Cause it's New York and there's Street Trash culture there who will attack you on a moment's notice. It was a Self Defense case

[@pinecedar180]

Yup the victim paid the ultimate price for stupid as FK. No loss for humanity here. Its a win.

[@pekkalanger5076]

He had it coming and even though the media tries to paint him as a victim it’s obvious he was a pos.

[@chenglim1087]

Don't expect to be thanked by doing something to someone who did not ask anything from you. Just be happy you did something great without any expected return.

[@andreellis5477]

Stole the words right out of my mouth

[@jerminator0688]

I always say thank you if someone holds the door open for me. And I expect the same in return. But I’m in the south so it’s more of a southern hospitality thing, I guess. It’s called common courtesy, and it’s not common anymore.

[@chenglim1087]

@@jerminator0688 it is common for people who have manners. But not all people have manners. And we will never know if that person has metal issues. Letting your ego goes may always protect yourself at all times

[@rickimhotep1236]

💯💯💯💯

[@clinicaltranscription1190]

No kidding. He held a f'ing door open for a perfectly able-bodied man, who didn't ask. Wow! He must be Superman!!

[@michellenguyen4108]

this victim was very angry, now he lost his life for his anger.

[@techmouse.]

Parenthood is a pass/fail situation. If your son died from picking fights with strangers at a smoke shop, you have failed.

[@1stshepherd]

Expecting to be rewarded for having done a good deed, means it wasn't out of an act of kindness. Lives are lost over the dumbest little issues.😢

[@garydaslug3025]

calling a „thank“ you a 'reward' is insane my dude. he aint that wrong with the regards of repect but it wasnt worth fighting over in a long run too

[@BubbyBold]

​@@garydaslug3025nobody owes you a thing when you do something polite, don't throw your life away over pride.

[@ebhole]

@@garydaslug3025 nobody owes anyone anything in this life

[@nakkadu]

​@@garydaslug3025It's a tiny reward for a tiny gesture.

[@blackdan0259]

@@ebhole Except IRS, you owe IRS and they gon come at your door if you don't start pay

[@MishC619]

I’m so sorry for this mothers loss, but unfortunately her son was the aggressor here. It’s terrible, but the guy stabbed him in self defense. He was being attacked relentlessly. Even when trying to leave on his bike he is taunted and b**** slapped by the victim. He had to learn the hard way. Sad situation

[@xavier.2002]

Sad all around. Moral of the story… Don’t go around starting arguments and slapping random individuals

[@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645]

Bingo 😁 self defense

[@kevinsmirnov264]

I blame the mother for raising that piece. No loss here

[@billsloan]

All we see is the scuffle thus is impossible for us to know who is the aggressive cause either one of them could have thrown the first punch.

[@billsloan]

@@kevinsmirnov264 She raised a Son who showed kindness by opening the door for somebody else which is always a kind gesture.

[@The1SilverShadow]

Good manners cost nothing, people are failing because of this but ultimately ;Ego is what brought him to the grave

[@soldierboyUSA26]

The greatest thanks are the unspoken ones...❤🙏

[@jeffjr84]

That's what happens when you go messing with random people, you might eventually catch someone on the wrong day for you.

[@whiteprivilegedenier7459]

No, this is common in an African American community, brothers will try to start a fight with you for not making eye contact or any number of silly things. This isn't random this is a black thing.

[@simonedishelle6720]

@@whiteprivilegedenier7459 It’s funny you make it about skin color. Either of the guys were black.

[@akiikigee468]

@@whiteprivilegedenier7459 was the Aggressor black american? A mere thank you wasnt worth even an altercation let alone an argument. Senseless ego got the better of someone

[@chrismelvin7]

@@whiteprivilegedenier7459 I see no Black participants in this video. Do you?

[@lovejones2179]

@@whiteprivilegedenier7459 𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒔

[@TheTrudean]

He slapped that man as he was getting on his bike to leave…it’s awful that he lost his life. 1. He knew the other guy had a knife. 2. The brawl in the store was over and the guy with the knife was getting on his bike attempting to leave. 3. The guy with the knife gets slapped and blocked from being able to leave the scene. 4. Everything after that point could have been avoided.

[@Wrath6909]

He could have also not escalated the situation to start. When opening the door for people I never expect them to say thanks. I think he felt tough because he was outside chopping it up with his boys, he wanted to appear as tough he owned the neighborhood.

[@WilliamRamirez-nk9xo]

See how nobody helped him

[@quincyredd3909]

@@WilliamRamirez-nk9xo Thats how it usually goes

[@EuTuFriska]

guy's life not wasted, most of us got reminded some things and others learned from this.. Condolences to the mother!

[@bfyrth]

Good point

[@gibbadygoowho3501]

This is why I keep to myself. All that matters is my family. So sad literally over nothing. The world we live in now 2023 😢

[@juanrosales7353]

Yea, buIt it costs us nothing to thank you and follow your path.

[@stevedubya291]

Another example of why people must be taught emotional control very early in life, and it must be taught daily.

[@gergnotsloh]

100%. I used to point out to my 2 year old son all the kids whining and screaming in grocery stores for not getting candy at the checkout line. Started him early in showing him poor examples of human behavior, and it stuck.

[@user-xx3dv7yw1x]

Smokin' vape kills

[@ReuploadChannel51]

⁠@@user-xx3dv7yw1xSo does stupidity since no one was talkin about it kid

[@DanFreeman723]

I love it when a Bully finally gets his karma. He wanted a fight & got one. #RIP .

[@josiahgonzalez942]

Sadly he learned his lesson but didn't have time or the opportunity to change his ways

[@blue_moon6490]

You love when people are murdered, right or wrong. You are sick in the head.

[@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2458]

🎶🎶🎶Ba da ba ba ba im loving it~😍🎶🎶🎶

[@mosywilliams8458]

His dumb self should have left the guy alone. Can't be messing with random people and expect to remain unharmed. Maybe he didn't care..

[@aaronjames2987]

nobody gonna talk about the fact the dude that died did crazy good fending off the first knife attack inside? that was insane and then to get outside and try the same thing is just really asking for it. RIP

[@emmettebramble10]

He cleanly had a complete disregard for the rest of his existence. The guy had the knife in his hand all along

[@mandraslopez5574]

Let’s stop pretending like confronting someone because they didn’t say thank you isn’t ridiculous. His ego got hurt and he ended up getting himself stabbed.

[@newgeneration8239]

the victim doesn’t look like a victim. i hope the “suspect” has a good lawyer.

[@MA-mh1vs]

AMEN! He should not even be charged!

[@michaeltrevino201]

Looks like he was the aggressor. Continually taunting the man and then even when he tried to get on his bike to leave the scene; he tried to prevent him from leaving. Seems like his ego got the best of him. Mind your business, folks

[@pdxtom]

Something my dad taught me as a young kid; Never forget that the wimpy looking little guy that you think you can pick on may have a knife or a gun.

[@mondomikeg4921]

That just goes to show that how something is framed and reported to be can quickly set up a precognitive bias in peoples mind and precondition them so see the events that took place in a certain light. The good thing about this situation is that people were able to actually see for themselves that the "Victim" was actually the 'Aggressor' in this matter. He seemed to have a chip on his shoulder and wanted to try to prove a point. I bet this is not the first altercation he had gotten into, but it proved to be his last.

[@robinmangala3536]

People are willing to die over the word “thank you”

[@EhrenLoudermilk]

He didn't ask for a thank you. He demanded one. Huge difference, ma'am

[@imjustsaying6656]

My condolences for his family. Now that that’s out the way. Let’s keep it real here, the victim was the aggressor. How petty you have to be to start a fight over a “thank you”. The dude was in his bike ready to leave if he would of let him leave he would be alive right now.

[@ignaciodelgado1368]

Hands no weapons 🙌 but Americans are not built for that pain . 2 days ago I put a good show a block away from that store against a marine. We shaked hands right after the fight and had a beer 🍺. It was cool . Americans need to teach their children not to sucker punch ,not to jumped, not to run but to embrace pain and believe me things like this would never happen again.

[@2commajourney]

@@ignaciodelgado1368 well some people chose not to fist fight because they cant but that dont mean the guy with the knife should have been bothered by the aggressor, if you were smart enough you would stay away from a guy with a knife why would you keep taunting him duh.

[@lil_vr_jayreyes6517]

@@ignaciodelgado1368 i stopped fighting with hands after i seen someone get hit so hard they dropped and died. if i value my life more than others so be it but i rather be ready to take one than to lose one cuz some evil people don't have the tendency to stop

[@empireluxinc]

Facts!

[@johnwow2646]

@@ignaciodelgado1368 I don't believe you! I actually think you are a total wimp.

[@mangaas]

He started the fight, continued the fight, and then wouldn't let the guy leave, who was mounting his bike TRYING to leave the altercation. He already knew the guy was brandishing a knife to defend himself, and still went to attack him. Don't start fights with random strangers, especially if you're drunk or high.

[@sweeneytod1]

That sums up NY. Killing someone for absolutely nothing. What is with the bandages on both arms?

[@gozardsmooth]

not nothing, respec Brah! If I wasn't locked up right now I would seek you out and........... not really. we live in a open air prison is the truth.

[@Sebastian-dx2xg]

There are many times I don’t get a thank you for holding the door for someone. That’s not gonna stop me from continuing to do it. It’s not worth getting in a fight or losing your life over.

[@AwakeInAnacortes]

Exactly. Same here. And I don't take it personally because I know that there are also people who will hold a door or say hi as a way to start an unwanted conversation or to distract someone while their cohort takes a wallet, so it's natural that some people aren't comfortable with responding, they just want to be on their way.

[@edwardhelmutalarconmongui6018]

When someone dont thank me I get in bad mood and from now on im not going to hold anyone door except for the peole i know especially the close ones.

[@juanrosales7353]

Politeness, does not remove the brave

[@twizz420]

We were born with common sense. Unfortunately it's rare nowadays, apparently.

[@achmed2pac]

Jesus Christ Living God he is Real and he healed me he wants us all to live Forever and with him in Heaven but we cannot let our sin separate us from his Perfect love🙏❤

[@1981menso]

He picked a fight and LOST. ZERO f3cks given.

[@T-R.e.x]

He died from his own actions, unbelievable 😢

[@BoobooPie_91]

Things like this are not worth arguing over,and if you must argue, never get into a physical fight or murder anyone. Ridiculous. R.I.P. 💔🙏🕊️

[@ashleighharris2028]

I hope the man who stabbed his attacker out of self defense has a good lawyer or a go fund me set up because he was clearly trying to leave, while only brandishing his weapon as a warning to not continue to attack him. The real attacker slapped the real victim in the face and was stabbed out of self defense. Keep your hands to yourself and don’t hold a door open if it makes you mad when people don’t say thank you.

[@authoritariangentleman7570]

I'll donate.

[@twistedmetal100]

Wow, if only every single person that gets bullied would carry a knife right. Then they would all have the opportunity to self defense by stabbing their bullies to death. I don’t think the guy playing self defense is in the right either. He f’d up and now he will pay the price for it in prison.

[@TheFrugalMombot]

Hopefully they won’t even press charges. I’d like to think the grand jury would see it’s not worth a charge.

[@CoopyKat]

@Ashleigh Harris I agree, although it went too far, he would have better off just spraying him with pepper spray because the guy in the white t-shirt clearly is aggressive himself.

[@ronnyalvarado8116]

Yea not sure how this plays out, mainly because it's illegal to carry a knife in NYC if I'm not mistaken. Even pepper spray is illegal. Don't quote me on this though, I just remember there were reasons why I didn't buy any for myself.

[@albatronafredo942]

He got into a fight over not receiving a thanks ? The "Victim" was the instigator. This is clearly self defense.

[@jewelinvegas580]

The guy's on a bicycle, with a backpack on his back, trying to leave. I wouldn't be surprised if the aggressor drove an expensive car, because it seems he had a superiority complex. Sadly, his mom is left to defend her son, who she knew had issues. His lack of respect for someone he thought was beneath him cost him his life.

[@weirdestbudday5353]

I can't say I feel sorry for the man. All respect is lost once you start a dramatic scene or fight over something so tedious and small. He shouldn't have lost his life over it but he shouldn't have started a fight in the first place. Everyone's actions have consequences. It's just a matter of time and place.

[@J.G.Wentworth69420]

So saying thank you is tedious?

[@weirdestbudday5353]

@@J.G.Wentworth69420 Tedious enough that it's not worth getting into a fight over or losing your life for that matter.

[@DivineAtheistWannabe]

@@J.G.Wentworth69420 Bro literally started a fight and harassed another man for not saying "thank you". Dude was a clown.

[@krashd]

@@J.G.Wentworth69420 No, expecting a thank you is tedious. Either you have no sense of comprehension or you are just being obtuse.

[@Lambman001]

@@J.G.Wentworth69420 not loosing your life over, so yes!

[@coolbreeze22]

He got himself killed . The killer was getting on his bike to leave , the victim smacked him & he got stabbed.

[@blackmennetwork]

Sadly, this man died over two words that he didn’t need to hear.

[@NKal]

The dude was looking for a fight. He made a stupid decision to poke a dude who was just going by his day. Totally unnecessary and sad!

[@toniwilliams5739]

Just like anything in life, do for yourself. Knowing you did the right thing, don't expect a thank you for what you know is the right thing.

[@Lovely-wy4fo]

Good one

[@lilithhecataniangoddessesm187]

Right! When I visited a beautiful Asian country, I witnessed a rich looking female local from their country came down from her parked luxurious car to pass through slim road where only their tricycles can fit in, there are parked motorcycles in it, so you can imagine how hard it is to pass through, but I was walking behind her, and we saw a tricycle driver who obviously looks tired with all sweats around his top, the girl stopped in front of me and gave the tricycle driver the body gesture to take the road first because they couldn’t take the road at the same time, the tricycle driver did gave her the gesture to be the one to pass by first, but in a really rude tone of voice answered “IF YOU USED A VEHICLE ON THIS ROAD, YOU SHOULD’VE BEEN ABLE TO PASS BY” and everyone else looking like peasant locals around laughed maliciously including the tricycle driver, his facial expression looks like he’s proud to of embarrass the girl, the girl just silently walked by.

[@l.c.7955]

@@lilithhecataniangoddessesm187 ok?

[@justinwayne445]

Wise words. We can't control other people, we can only control ourselves. The sooner we all learn that the sooner we can be happy and content with ourselves.

[@mikelavelle5019]

Exactly ...I'm doing good just because that's me . Because it's right ..I don't expect anyone to acknowledge it

[@nuvamusic]

Something’s wrong to begin with if you DEMAND a thank you for holding a door open.

[@chipsandlemonade1086]

Homie still could've had his life had he not followed blocked and slapped the dude holding a knife

[@holdenmcgroin6621]

@@chipsandlemonade1086 let's be honest,its better this way.That Agressive man was going to hurt somebody bad one day if he hadn't already

[@chipsandlemonade1086]

@@holdenmcgroin6621 not gonna lie I agree with you

[@shornandkenny]

Something is also wrong if you dont willingly offer a thanks. However, white shirt had it coming with this behavior.

[@heather2418]

@@holdenmcgroin6621 Amen. If he gets this angry over a thank you from a stranger, imagine how he feels if his girlfriend doesn't thank him enough for something equally as minor. I'm not sad he's gone.

[@joshpointoh]

That's nice of them to let us know who the victim is. It wasn't easy to tell, since the "victim" was the one that very initiated the altercation according to the mother, and then started the physical altercation according to the camera footage, by punching the guy first. And then continued to be the aggresssor for the physical altercation outside. Thanks NBC News, for the unbiased and totally accurate reporting!

[@alexced6945]

He's Jk you guys, don't stab a guy trying to fight you.

[@elhermanomexicano3285]

@@alexced6945 well it’s his life or mine, so play stupid games win dogshit prizes

[@someguy3429]

@@elhermanomexicano3285 yeah exactly. I am not about to get suckered punched and hit my head on concrete. If somebody continues to escalate when I'm trying to de escalate, I'm not taking chances once that line is crossed

[@al-hassan9200]

The man literally tried to go on his way peacefully and ride his bike but "the victim" blocked him.

[@80sidd]

Slapped him while he tried to go off on his bike

[@pleasesayhi4009]

This is why kids really need to learn the value of de-escalation as well as how to do it. This didn't need to be a thing at all.

[@arielle-cheriepaterson7851]

So true. How do you learn that?

[@josiedudouit1933]

You're so right! I myself practice patience and de-escalation on a daily basis!

[@javirodriguez5617]

If someone hold the door opened for me,,it's well appreciated...

[@billsloan]

Just cause you learn that does not mean that you're going to put it into practice.

[@MV-nt4bq]

I say thank you without thinking twice it’s not that big of a deal

[@973Luca973]

Don't hold door open if you demand a thank you. most people do it out of manners.

[@vince5209]

Sadly the guy who died . Died even faster from that knife attack because his heart was pumping massive amounts due to the fight he was in… knowledge is key people

[@GROGU123]

Looked like knife guy was trying to escape. Self defense if Nunez didn’t let him leave on his bike.

[@unseenufo]

Yea. He didn't make a purchase. Neither did.

[@Landis_Grant]

Latinos have hot tempers.

[@FoxFire1281]

Sadly the guy who died was the person who started the fight. It was self defense.

[@kevinsmirnov264]

why sadly? you would prefere the other way around?

[@FoxFire1281]

@@kevinsmirnov264 First off, F off. Second, because the guy who did the stabbing looks white and it sounds like the media wanted to paint the attacker as the victim and the story into a "BLM" direction. Interviewing that guy with the long hair, who was a no nothing, do nothing bystander, who said he attacked the guy who stabbed him because "he felt disrespected" was pointless.

[@billsloan]

@@kevinsmirnov264 Pretty sure that he's saying he wishes that neither of them lost their life.

[@billsloan]

All we see is the scuffle so it is impossible for us to know for sure who was the aggressor.

[@FoxFire1281]

@@billsloan Pretty sure the interviewed guy said he was trying to tell the person being attacked, a white guy, that he, the black guy he stabbed, "wasn't worth it" as if he was the aggressor and the black guy was the victim which he is not in this instance.

[@Nich_B23]

Think we all know who the real victim is here. Crazy we’re calling this guy a victim for being on the wrong end of self defense

[@marcusdupree3517]

WOW HIS MOTHER IS ACTUALLY DEFENDING HIS SON..... WOW HOW IGNORANT

[@gratefulme651]

This is truly sad. People really need to learn what battles are worth fighting for.

[@pchn0071]

Yep, battles worth fighting & dying for.

[@commiesnzombies]

but he was so close to finishing med school

[@datt5698]

We live we learn and energy never ceases to exist. Everything just constantly changes form.

[@Cyril29a]

What value is there in any of this? The dead man was clearly the aggressor and the other person was defending himself. This whole report is ridiculous.

[@waikintang8246]

@@pchn0071 LGBT... ?

[@te9591]

Based on body language it looks like the victim was the most hostile. I bet he was not expecting someone to call his bluff.

[@richle905]

It wasn't about not saying thank you, he attacked him and the attacked him again when he tried to get on his bike to leave. The "victim" was psycho.

[@trancendedmindpalace]

You don't do nice things for gratitude. You simply do them to be nice. No one has to thank you or show appreciation. Also the person that died was the aggressor. Its still unfortunate he was stabbed but he had the wrong mindset to begin with.

[@freddypfaffenzeller4326]

That's why I treat strangers as if they were invisible

[@rubywedderburn9487]

Yes SIR 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿😪☹️😪🙈🙊🙈

[@billking1751]

Same here. I do my best to not even make eye contract with people i see, as troubled.

[@cain8134]

Facts

[@albeit1]

If someone does you a small courtesy, I think it pays to say thank you. But expecting and even demanding - that’s foolish. And look at the cost. Insane.

[@billsloan]

& I will continue to chat a stranger up in a friendly manner.

[@babakukunbe2654]

An avoidable physical altercation is never worth it. Walking away from a situation you can choose to walk away from is not cowardice; it's self control🙏

[@piehound]

Thumbs up. The bible says *PRIDE GOES BEFORE DESTRUCTION.* Clearly this event is an example of that. And no i'm not "religious." I simply want to live successfully. That means willing to learn . . . if possible.

[@paulengels6926]

Sometimes it's cowardice and cowards like to tell themselves that when they walk away.

[@theFormidable1]

this is pretty much how people feel about workers that demand to be tipped

[@DYLAN102001]

Ban knives. That will prevent these crimes.

[@SilverFox_69]

Guy that got killed was clearly the aggressor. This is why when I hold the door for someone & they don’t say nothing I just keep on pushing like nothing happened. It’s not worth it getting mad over others bad actions.

[@11d3adly11]

Facts …tons of times I’ve held doors for folks at bodega, emergency door in the subways when exiting…I’m not gonna turn around to expect a penny from a stranger…if anything I’ll get the occasional under the breath thanks or good looking if I hear it and keep on keeping on !

[@smokeymcpot69]

You're not entitled to a thank you though. No one asked for you to hold the door.

[@billfromEtown]

No decent humans in this thread

[@MV-nt4bq]

@@smokeymcpot69 so you’d rather die like him instead of just saying thank you and going about your day

[@jahjoeka]

@@MV-nt4bq the guy who didn't say thank you died. It was the other guy expecting a thank you.

[@jimmytwotimes2758]

What a stupid way to die ,just open the door for anyone and move on ,don't expect everyone to be same as you My condolences to his mom and friends

[@Guy_007]

Exactly, its not genuine kindness if you expect anything let alone a thank you

[@EternalResonance]

It wasn't because if manners. The guy who got stabbed instigated the arguments. He confronted the guy with anger. His own anger had lots to do with his own death.

[@ultimatelv27]

"If he would've said thank you then none of this would've happened." NO. None of this would've happened if he just held the door open and said nothing afterwards.

[@seanzibonanzi64]

If you expect to be thanked for holding a door for someone you're not being kind, you're being manipulative.

[@multicolor8476]

If you do something for someone, you have to do it without expecting reciprocation. If you require a thank you to make your gesture real, then its not done for the right reason. So now, the real victim has become the man who didn't ask him to hold the door, because his life is ruined over an inconsequential act.

[@peterlongprong7521]

he learned that lesson the hard way

[@simster1001]

What is wrong to a simple thank you?That aggressor needs to die.

[@rvlifestylelivin]

his life is gone because he had lack of manners and no sense in his head, the guy was trying to leave when he smacked him and assaulted him then caught a knife for the assault!

[@itzhexen0]

So I guess you guys are going to get all your money back from these fake KZbinrs then?

[@multicolor8476]

@@TheBlueThird You are dangerous. Please stay away from me.

[@copperysinger5985]

If you feel a need to bully someone after they refuse to say 'thank you' then your heart wasn't really that pure and kind to begin with.

[@drtroyturner7464]

You're right. I think similarly about strangers who call you Unc, OG and Old head. It's not pure intentions. It's sizing you up and trying to be dismissive and flippant. I keep it moving as the reject the title.

[@israelnevarez4751]

"Keep calm and vape" So much for that.

[@vevvenennevvev5945]

So are we all pretty much in agreement that this guy begged for exactly what he got, and this is not a tragedy? Do we all pretty much understand that this was in fact a good thing?

[@spleeeen4it]

no, just the halfwits on here. Most people in DECENT countries see it differently.

[@npa2468]

Respect is a universal law. If you do something for someone but they don't ask you to do it they don't owe you a thank you. Guy lost his life basically bullying the wrong person. Then the guy is obviously trying to leave on his bike and the deceased kept agitating the situation and lost his life that quick. Pride always comes before the fall.

[@JamieLamb-ft6io]

I agree with you 100% it was obvious the Aggressor was the man that got killed and sadly he got into a fight and he paid a very heavy price his life

[@FearlessLove]

Oooouuuu. This the comment

[@jaquelinnefernandez5133]

💯

[@frayedends7291]

In life...if you live long enough you will learn that not every situation/disrespect needs a response. Just observe and walk away.

[@jotcw81]

That is so true, the realization often comes too late.

[@inconnuinconnu3831]

You are right.

[@ms.ravenwood]

This Post should be pinned with way more 👍

[@djairalert422]

you're so right..

[@jamahlosborne1514]

true.

[@davidandrews5262]

The victim responed with self deffense. The attacker was killed. Why is journalism so hard these days.

[@FlacK88-ek8vg]

"Sooner or later you come across someone you should not have F#$kd with" Clint Eastwood

[@HikerBikerMoter]

the victim was the aggressor and provoked the suspect

[@josiahgonzalez942]

Can't argue against the facts we just saw it on video lol

[@nopaulblemogaming9271]

one guy said, "if the other guy sad thank you, none of that would've happened." That's the farthest from the truth. I feel absolutely terrible for this guy, but when people aren't polite to you (which will happen to all of us for the rest of our lives) doesn't mean you call someone out for it, or worse. Lessons learned all around. RIP.

[@KB-kp2oz]

It's entitlement to go out of your way to do something for someone and expect them to say something in return. I get that it's the polite thing to do, but no one is entitled to reciprocate what you did out of your way. I don't get what's happening.

[@yai4486]

he was looking for a reason to fight. he just took his chance there, it would have happened somewhere else if not there

[@drinkinglass]

@@KB-kp2oz exactly lol you do good deeds from your heart, not wanting to expect anything in return.

[@KB-kp2oz]

@@drinkinglass if that's your way of asking if I hold the door open not expecting a thank you like a sane person, yeah, I do. You sound like a schmuck. I won't lie.

[@edwardhelmutalarconmongui6018]

@@KB-kp2oz exactly, unfortunately it's not an obligation to appreciate but its rude and discorteous . Also, the other reason is simply because they are egocentric or arrogant that feels superiority.

[@LEFTYSMOKER]

the man stabbed is clearly the one in the wrong, also when you do an act of kindness you should not expect any favors in return. so he was twice in the wrong

[@maciejguzek3442]

Difficult case to judge. Wasnt the alleged 'victim' actually the attacker?

[@lliamjurdom9505]

Omg it actually looks like the victim was the antagonist !!!!

[@csul9193]

Right. That clip where he slapped him

[@TheOrangePatriot]

yup. vic was the stabber

[@kewlztertc5386]

Yeah, that's how it seems. Looks like self defense. Notice how everyone keeps trying to make a big deal out of courtesy?

[@hughjass1835]

I think even the mom agreed. She said he started a fight and he lost, I think that's what she said anyway

[@Bubbles99718]

Cause he was

[@vsbaretummysugastonguetech1540]

I hold the door open for people all the time, and never expect a thank you. I’m from Canada though, and people always thank me. If someone didn’t thank me, I doubt very much I’d confront them. Just live your life, and let others live theirs. Now a mother is left heartbroken, because her son didn’t think about the consequences, of confronting a stranger.

[@pushslice]

THANK YOU.

[@rickyayy]

In America it is better to say thank you or this happens

[@robertszoradi858]

I'm from Canada to let's go out

[@LotteryProfessor]

Yea me too I use to be like that

[@shornandkenny]

@@rickyayy your on point here bud

[@josiedudouit1933]

The guy got on his bike and was about to leave then the victim slapped him...well, we know the rest! SO SENSELESS tho!

[@netuserist]

Love how TV reduced this situation to "he just wanted to hear thank you, and that's why he died". You can easily see the "suspect" just wanted to drive away.