Is Meghan Markle Black or White?

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MEGHAN MARKLE. Everyone has an opinion on her these days. I sat down with my friend, Creole art collector and historian, Jeremy Simien to ask the real question: who counts as "Black"? Looking at Meghan Markle's experience as a biracial woman and the way the media sees mixed race people, we dive into the headlines with Prince Harry and the Royals - are we are applying binary constructs to people of mixed heritage?
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[@hanikaram3351]

she is beautiful

[@danilopompey754]

I noticed how you were tickled by the term "incognegro." So, I wanted to add two more; these are meant to decribe African Americans trying to get to the same social status: "Negropeans" and "Euroblacks." Only these apply to darker toned Blacks. QED

[@teggie6853]

Danielle, I enjoy your channel and your content. Having said that , it is so so so sad we have to have these discussions at all. Pitiful in a way.

[@nytn]

@@teggie6853 I agree, I hope we can talk about it and then move on to loving our neighbors better. It's my hope

[@SCBoobie7076]

I’ve started following this channel primarily because of the thoughtful way in which a historically difficult topic is being covered. I’m black and researched my DNA, I have Nigerian, Jewish, Welsh, Finnish, Spanish, and Melanesian heritage. Wow, what journeys my ancestors made and now I understand my hair better too. Meghan is just unapologetically herself, just like me.

[@Mcgturtle3]

Is she black? Yes. Is she white? Yes. Two things can be true

[@Mcgturtle3]

Same thing with Barack Obama. The first “black” president 🤔

[@nytn]

I like this way of explaining it!

[@doreenplischke2169]

@@Mcgturtle3 precisely!

[@adouglas2308]

​@@Mcgturtle3Appearance and phenotype wise he is black. He most certainly experienced every racist epithet directed at him by white racists. Stereotypes and all. You all like to pretend you see mixed race people as human beings, but the truth of the matter is you have no problems showing your xenophobic tendancies while hurling racist name calling.

[@kitty_s23456]

Same thing as Zendaya - she's half black & half white. However, I think with Zendaya she has accepted/ embraced her being multi racial. She started out as a child (or teen) actress and ppl saw her as a kid with curly hair and "mocha" / medium skin. When she was cast as MJ in the Spiderman movies, I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that there wasn't much of an uproar - maybe it's also due to the times? That people are more accepting now? Whereas for Meghan Markle, she passed as white and was given primarily white roles. I've also never seen her on the red carpet or "street looks" with her naturally curly hair, whereas Zendaya has pics on red carpet with her curly hair, with braids, etc. Again, I acknowledge that Zendaya & Meghan became popular in different times/ decades.

[@-LivingProof]

I'm biracial. Black mother, white father. I can say that based on experience, I'm considered 'mixed' by most black people. Unless it suits them to call me black. If it's someone who likes me, then I'm a sista. If not, I'm called a white girl, mixed or yellow. I guess it depends on how the person feels about you. 🤷‍♀️ Personally, I claim to be a child of God. A 'hue-man' being. *edit* I'm extremely proud of my heritage from both sides, I treat everyone accordingly & it hurts my heart to know that until people stop feeling the need to categorize one another, the social construct of racism won't end. The powers that be want us to remain separated.

[@Lily_of_the_Forest]

I love “hue-man” being!

[@joburch7583]

Are you considered "mixed" by most white people?

[@nytn]

" guess it depends on how the person feels about you. " I think this is the case and it used to bother me because I would get all sorts of reactions from different people, but it's bothering me less and less. I agree, we are God's children made in His image, and that is the identity that counts

[@nytn]

@Blatina LOL! 3A. Love it

[@debbierichards3742]

That's it! You're a child of the most high. And he created us and apparently Jesus loves variety! Watching "Finding Lola", has convinced me more so than ever. I'm a child of God. The devil loves division and strife.

[@blbrightlights564]

I think the term mixed race describes what Megan is

[@matiusbond6052]

the term mixed race would fit about 65% of black Americans

[@nicolettacinci3053]

She always called herself caucasian. She wrote it on her cv's,drivers license ecc...she started to call herself black when it suited her.

[@cherylp9963]

Yep thats the game that mix ppl play....

[@hermitwatcher8997]

That’s being mixed. You’re between two worlds and you have to pick one. Yet you are never black enough to be black or white enough to be white. You’re black because you you aren’t totally white, but you’re not white because you actually not white. Race is a construct anyway

[@briandejesustofa3708]

Why are you surprised? Yes she can switch anytime if she so wants simply because she can.

[@chriskewe4238]

​@johncollins7062😂

[@chriskewe4238]

@johncollins7062 same to you...

[@patriciamorrell4954]

You cannot say she is just white or just black. She has a white bloodline as well as a black bloodline because of her Father and Mother. Therefore she is biracial.

[@nytn]

I agree! I hate the idea of erasing one parent from the equation...

[@zeroturn7091]

Mathematically, her overall make up is less Black therefore…

[@PsychicMedium4747]

@@nytn❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@t-dgonzalez2012]

I absolutely LOVE watching and hearing Jeremy Simien speak. These conversations have been helpful to me with my own genealogical research.

[@nytn]

I wish I could tag him on this, hopefully he will see it. He's great!

[@hazelhawkins1917]

If your skin is dark why would you feel the need to use spray tan

[@riegirl3473]

And lots of it???

[@pauletteharris8170]

As biracial but look more white, I feel that I’m not accepted by black heritage by black people. Which is really sad, but I am who I am and I don’t try to convince others by using bronzer and spray tans. Hopefully one day we don’t have to tick certain boxes to identify us like race, colour, religion etc just being you should be enough.

[@nytn]

I feel the same as you,Paulette!

[@TransmutedLiving]

It's ok to be biracial. Accept the entirety of your bloodline. Why should one side be accepted over the other. It makes you you

[@hzlkelly]

@@TransmutedLiving mixed people accept both sides. Society doesn’t.

[@BronzeSista]

My husband is a generationally mixed Black person, who can pass for white, and Black people DO NOT treat him badly. Sometimes I wonder why some biracial people who are 45 to 50% Black, keep saying Black people don't accept them. I want to know do yall accept Black people, thats the question.

[@Jenjen-qc5eq]

You are NOT one or the other you are BOTH Black and White and there is nothing wrong with saying that because that is the truth. I have come to the realisation that some of the most traitorous Blacks to the Black race are those very dark-skinned African featured Blacks, ie Candance Owens and Kanye West come to mind, and some of the most supportive Blacks to the Black cause have been light-skinned and mox race Blacks, so personally for me as a dark-skinned Black Brit, skin tone means eff all to me it is the person inside the skin that matters to me...☺☕

[@MichelleSCarey]

She is biracial but her life and her life experiences lean white. She seems to wear her “blackness” as clothing. Taking it on and off when it suits her needs.

[@Jie85-]

The issue is us, humans. She’s not black enough for black people, and she will never be white. So, she tends to go where she’s appreciated, like most biracial kids..

[@leonardobarnes8031]

I am South African. Here a mixed race is called a "coloured". We have been mixed for 3 generations now. I can identify with everything that you both mentioned experiencing as biracial people. It's even worse in our country. As coloured people we come in so many shades features and hair colours and textures that black and white people do not exactly know what we are. Treatment is therefore received on appearances which is very fickle.

[@siewheilou399]

You stuck in the middle of Black Supremacy and the struggle class. Can you claim refugee in Europe?

[@BORN-to-Run]

Mixed-race people use to be called Colored in America too. But back in the 1960s that all came to a screeching halt, when Mulattoes Angela Davis and Huey Newton led all Mixed-race people to STOP CALLING THEMSELVES COLORED and identify as Black so as not to make the Blacks resent them for having had life better than them since slavery. It didn't work.

[@basslinephunk3441]

It's crazy! We're all "colored". We're all colors. This "color" thing messes us up more than some want to admit.

[@tracyMcC]

Whereas colored in the States had the same meaning as Negro or Black. We used to have the mulatto designation, but it was discontinued in the early 1900s. When black Americans refer to someone who has a mixed background, they tend to say that they are mixed versus half this or half that. Even if they are trying to describe someone maybe who works in a store and say, "the tall light-skinned black guy", they will clarify at some point that they are actually mixed.

[@BORN-to-Run]

@@tracyMcC Not exactly. Colored people and Black people were NOT the same people in the past. In fact, it was the MULATTOES who were first to be called Colored people by the Whites BECAUSE they were no longer Black, instead they were brown and lighter. Mulatto was used in the past on government race classifications, but in time was discontinued for the all-encompassing term of "Negro," which include both Blacks and Colored people. Colored people were always "mixed" whereas Blacks were not. The dust has not settled. Mixed-race people who are approximately half Black or less are insisting upon their rights to be who they are, rather than lie because it's socially acceptable. I don't know where you are, but the multi-racially people I'm familiar with are Mixed and proud and want nothing to do with lying about themselves because that's what other people want them to say. They have come OUT OF THE CLOSET.

[@tylineburgos8879]

If you haven't read "Caste" by Isabel Wilkerson I highly recommend reading it because it puts the way we treat race in America into perspective. Race in the US Is not really about meaningful difference between people of Eurpoean, Asian or African descent, its really about social order and "knowing one's place" in that social order. Thats what the one drop-rule was all about, teaching people their place and most importantly preserving a white power structure. Most Black Americans grow up with this understanding even if its never been fully articulated, and this is what many Black Americans get frustrated with (even if they don't realize it) when it comes to Meghan Markle. Most of us think "how did she not know" and "was she really surprise?" I know Oprah wasn't. I still don't think I fully believe she was as shocked as she claimed in the Oprah interview, I think she played that up for white viewers lol I think one of the things that black people side-eyed with her was the fact that she grew up with a black mother as her primary caregiver and yet seems to have no type of black consciousness. She usually references herself as a mixed woman or a woman of color and Its fine to be what you are, if she identifies as mixed then I don't see the problem, but she often say she's experiencing racism because she's a woman of color or mixed when what she specifically is experiencing within this white power structure that is the British monarchy/royal family, is Anti-Blackness, not "anti-POC" or "anti mixed" sentiment, they actually accept her because she's mixed, had she had two black parent then I doubt she would even be there, what they regect is her blackness and her black mother. You can be mixed and still experience anti-blackness and anti-black racism and yet she somehow lived in the US for 30+ years and didn't see this coming? Having black consciousness isn't about rejecting all the other parts of you if you're mixed its about understanding how the system works and "your place" within this system of white supremacy and not being a fool for thinking you could escape its traps or being shocked when they remind you that you're not one of them.

[@bdmenne]

Are you and yours going to go into every White homelands and home and then complain about not being accepted “as one of them”? You understand that of insane, it’s anti-White or shots I say POC-centric. The entire globe is not POC. Can we have just 8% to ourselves, or do you HAVE TO FEEL included there, everywhere as well? Madness

[@MsMaureen1975]

Great conversation. Most American's don't know the history of racism in England. I was born there, brought to America when I was 10, I experienced it first hand. None of the bad treatment Meghan receives has shocked me. As for the racial category issue, in a perfect world it wouldn't matter. I think Meghan should be able to identify with both of her parents, without being questioned. But listening to Jeremy's stories about how he has been treated, it's obvious that certain people always decide how to treat others based on perceived racial categories. So this ends up being about racism, colorism, texturism and sexism. It's so sad.

[@nytn]

Im interested to hear more about the English experience. Do you feel that it is more covert or overt racism in England vs the UK? Im sorry this is a familiar experience for you, I agree, MM should be able to identify as both because she is both. It's strange to me the idea that one parent's background can erase the other's....

[@MsMaureen1975]

@@nytn I can tell you a lot about my experience as a black child in England. But it's too much to write here, my previous answer seemed too long, lol.

[@nytn]

@@MsMaureen1975 never too long for me! I absolutely love when the community shares their experiences, it is so appreciated

[@rachelhill4758]

What we are really talking about is colorism as well

[@nytn]

Absolutely

[@rhondae8222]

Right!

[@Neoyorchese]

Ask Tom Jones. He would laugh and say he is a Brit

[@gregedgar6012]

She is a mixture of both.

[@nytn]

I see it that way, too. I dont think everyone does!

[@gregedgar6012]

@@nytn I do understand if you look like one parent more than the other you will definitely look like a certain race and be perceived a certain way, unfortunately treated not always in the most respectful way. It would be crazy to look black and pretend you are white or vice versa. She looks multi racial but not one more than the other. People want you pigeonholed or in a certain box. It makes them more comfortable. I don't understand that but let a person be who they are and leave them alone. Live and let live. Someone's race is none of my business. It has absolutely nothing to do with me.

[@nytn]

@@gregedgar6012 you're right, it should not be a thing at ALL. But it is. Favoring a side of the family definitely is a thing. I dont know how well I would be received by communities of color if I looked less like my Louisiana side. Perception influences a lot.

[@annethomson4920]

Shes whatever is advantageous at the time.

[@carolwoodward6141]

Thanks! Very insightful conversation.

[@nytn]

awww Carol, thank you! I'll use it to get a few coffees while editing the next video☺

[@danajackson332]

Interesting conversation. I'm enjoying your journey.

[@nytn]

Awesome! Thank you! Feels great to have you here

[@verlan3293]

I think this is the first type of video you've done like this and I think it's actually a very good idea you could explore potentially in order videos. Using public figures as a "topic" or reference to discuss themes like passing or identity as it attaches a well known figure to the issue you're discussing for it to be more relatable.

[@nytn]

Dante, you are reading my mind. I think it's interesting to take something that is more old school (like genealogy) and overlay it on pop culture. Id love your ideas for other similar videos~

[@verlan3293]

@@nytn There are a lot of details I wanted to add to this, but to keep this comment concise I will try to keep it as short as possible. I'm also presuming these topics haven't been discussed (in depth) so I apologise if they have already, but here are some ideas for other videos I came up with: 1) Talking about the distinction between the terms Cajun and Creole and what they meant historically and in current day, and the political and colloquial nuances people had/still have about the terms and clearing up misconceptions. For example, many people think that to be Creole implies being mixed-race, but that's a misconception and people of pure European ancestry/predominately if not entirely African ancestry participated in Creole culture just as much. 2) Doing a deep dive (maybe multi-part video?) of Louisiana Creole culture and what that was like for people throughout history. Talking about the influences from various people who made the culture such as West Africans, Germans, Spanish, Quebecois/Acadians, Indigenous people, etc. and maybe trying to make already-known connections to family traditions from Lola (or her extended family) or trying to find new ones. Also discussing the various languages that were spoken in Louisiana such as Louisiana's dialect of Canarian Spanish, Louisiana French, Louisiana Creole, etc. and maybe trying to discover which traditions were prevalent in Lola's family, like did Lola (and/or her relatives) speak French/Creole/both/more languages, what types of foods they ate, what traditions they celebrated, and getting a clear picture of how Creole culture was distinct from the rest of the country. 3) ^ consider this more of a part two of the idea above, but also discussing in another segment/part the discrimination people faced for being Creole outside of racial discrimination, but also across cultural lines--and religious lines as many Louisiana residents were (and still are) Catholic, which the US has a very unknown history of intense anti-Catholic sentiment--from Anglophone residents. Examples can include how French and Creole was banned in schools and children were shamed and punished for speaking it, and basically showing how in multiple ways how they were meant to feel ashamed of themselves not just for their ancestry but for their culture within Louisiana itself, and maybe you can talk to extended relatives or other people in Louisiana about their own family stories about this. 4) ^part 3 of the video: A video about what it's like to be creole in current year from people actively trying to preserve dying remnants of endangered parts of the culture, such as speaking Louisiana French and/or Louisiana Creole and the different implications it has on the culture, such as how some districts (parishes?) in Louisiana have schools where the schools' language of instruction is in French, but the teachers are from overseas like from France, Belgium, or Quebec, and so the language the children are learning is not the specific dialect that their ancestors knew (Creole and/or Louisiana French). Sorry if this is too much! I hope this gives some sort of inspiration. There are a tonne of ideas I had for some references you could make for these topics but I didn't add themt o try and keep the post short.

[@nytn]

these are great! Thank you so much.

[@patlucenyc]

She uses what is most convenient for her about the time

[@megwithyou943]

And she can because she is both.

[@ssinc.2065]

@@megwithyou943 “tragic mulatto syndrome” which is biracial people who identify as white to be accepted into white communities. It’s only when they’re reminded by white people they’re not fully white they cry foul. She literally said “she didn’t know how it felt to be black” until her encounter w/ Harry’s family. Historically, only black communities have been welcoming to all people!

[@Arela1164]

Not unusual for multiracial people to have a fluid racial identity, because we can. Can be a difficult concept to understand for primarily mono racial people. If you know, you know.

[@theelizabethan1]

Photos from her youth clearly show Meghan wearing her hair with a distinctly ethnic texture. She has spoken about her use of hair straighteners.

[@carolinezervan6301]

Why use hair straighteners just wear wigs or extensions. Most black women do. Or is that the point. She doesn't feel black or consider herself black. Think of the movie Imatation of life. She is kinda an open Sarah Jane Johnson. Meagan doesn't hide her mother like s.j. black she metaphorically hides her mother in other ways. Her straighten hair and her white husbands. Did she ever date many black men and if so how many.

[@TheBushLeague]

I think we should remember how DNA is passed down is random. My grandmother was light enough to pass as white but both of her parents were brown skinned. It was her paternal grandmother who was mixed race so it appears that my grandmother inherited more of her DNA. And of my grandmother's siblings half were brown skinned and the other half were lighter skinned. One sister who was brown and married a brown man has a son who has blond hair and grayish green eyes. None of his other siblings are as light as he is but looking at them together you can see by their features that they are brothers. I'm sure that the percentages of African DNA is different for each. This is why the whole construct of race and questions about a person's race is so troublesome. You can genetically be one thing, present as another and are culturally socialized as something completely different.

[@peachygal4153]

I have a friend I thought was biracial, but she isn't. she just got all the Eruopean genes that both of her parents had.

[@carolwoodward6141]

Thoughtful comment. We must remember, that like time, race IS a construct.

[@nytn]

ABSOLUTELY. The phenotype/genotype thing is the wrong way to look at it, but people just naturally categorize based on first glance. My kids are all different colors. Same parents. I would hate for my lighter child to not feel that she could connect to this side of the family as much as my darker kids based on how she looks.

[@neerajanaghosh4464]

@TheBushLeague I am so glad you said that DNA may be passed randomly. But it would take a million pieces of research to convince of this fact.

[@wildflower7925]

Africa is a very diverse continent, we have all types of features and skin tones, i think people in America are not aware of this.

[@lisagrl89m.67]

Depending on what country in Africa you are from, of course there are those that are generationally mixed with other races, therefore giving them a range of different complexions and phenotypes. The majority of blacks outside of Africa are from west Africa from the transatlantic slave trade, they had the strongest Afro phenotype, but it got diluted over time, so most biracial people in America are genetically more white than they are black.

[@wildflower7925]

@Lisagrl89 M. Africa is diverse, not because of mixing with other races, our cultures are very strict on this, am from East Africa I live this culture every day. There's also many ways to look African, not like a typical Yoruba person, which non Africans think all africans look like. My family has various skin tones, features, and we go from dark to light, we are not mixed, just 100% african.

[@lisagrl89m.67]

@@wildflower7925 Yes, you're African but generationally you had other mixed in your dna. I know north Africans that are white, but they are also African.

[@wildflower7925]

@Lisagrl89 M. My 23andme showed no dna from other races, 100% African. North Africa is mixed due to Arab and southern European invasions, that has resulted in the current population. If in east Africa we had mixed with other groups of races, our culture, spirituality, language, names and totems,would have changed, but that did not happen.

[@PsychicMedium4747]

Yea, BUt horn Africans like Somalia , Eritrean are mixed with Arabs it’s all over social media ancestry results and horn is next to Saudi’s Arabia…makes perfect sense. West Africans are black horn are black and Arab …big difference

[@robertwalker8453]

I have been following your channel for weeks now. Your journey of self-discovery has been fascinating and inspiring to watch. Also it has been remarkable to witness the metamorphosis your life perspective. Thank you for sharing. About Megan Markle, the issue about Megan and the media and how she has been received and perceived. It is basically the same issue that plagued Obama. More than ever it’s okay to be biracial or black more so than it has ever been in modern history in American/Anglo environments but the are still some places that are “off limits” such as President of United States or the Wife of Prince who 5th in line from the most storied throne in modern history. The issue is a matter of much consternation is that often as hard as persons my try how one is perceived is totally out of their control. Your guess is very insightful and spot on about the “ugliness” in the world.

[@nytn]

Robert, thank you for this. I didnt realize I had been growing or changing on this journey but looking back, I can see it better. I dont know where it leads, but I'll keep asking questions as long as the community comes along side of me.

[@kathleenbrown6326]

GROWING UP IN THE 60'S WAS HELL I COULD WRITE A BOOK ON RACISM IM WHITE MY HUSBAND IS BLACK I HAVE BEEN SHOT AT MORE THAN A FEW TIMES HAD A. CROSS BURNED IN MY PARENTS FRONT YARD I HAD TO LEAVE HOME AT 14 TO KEEP MY FAMILY SAFE AND AFTER THAT II HAD THE MOST WONDERFUL BLACK WOMAN RAISE ME WHEN I WAS D ENOUGH TO HAVE CHILDREN THEY WERE RAISED IN BOTH WORLDS MMAND HARRY PULLING THE RACE CARD MAKES ME SCREAM SHE CALLED HER SELF WHITE ALL HER LIFE AND PEOPLE THOUGHT HER MOM WAS HER NANNY HOW DARE HER IM IN MY EARLY 70'S I HAVE SEEN AND BEEN THROUGH ALOT WHEN I LOOK AT THEM I ONLY WISH I COULD WRITE ON HERE WITHOUT GETTING IN TROUBLE I WANT HER TO JUST SHUT UP AND BE PROUD OF WHAT YOU ARE YOU ARE SO HATEFUL OH AND HER MOTHER I BLAME HER ALSO I. COULD GO ON AND ON I FEEL SORRY FOR THE CHILDREN WELL.

[@robertwalker8453]

@johncollins7062 just as soon as you stop gaslighting.

[@kitty_s23456]

Hi Danielle. Great discussion! I like how your channel has evolved from talking about your family history to what it is now. Suggestion: maybe you can compare Zendaya vs MM, in terms of how they present themselves, treatment from the media, etc. They're both mixed race. Zendaya has appeared on the red carpet with her natural hair and in braids, while MM has not. (It's her choice, I know). I also acknowledge that they became popular in Hollywood at different times/ decades (though Zendaya started out as a child or teen actress), MM started acting as an adult. Cheers!

[@syntychiahintsin-tee-shaks2256]

Zendaya makes no qualms about identifying as a Black woman who is the child of a white mother. That’s a beautiful thing.

[@vickigibson8964]

She’s mixed race so she’s both.

[@nytn]

I agree!

[@andreahoke9740]

No cannot be anything you want to to be. You are who you are

[@rhondae8222]

Right!

[@nightowl7261]

I'm a NightOwl. It's who I am.

[@kjames7798]

Great channel. Great topics. ❤

[@nytn]

Thanks so much! ☺️☺️

[@BronzeSista]

I really like the guest's energy and vibe.

[@vanessiek]

As someone else said, I can also relate as a person that is half Mexican and half white. My mother has a very light complexion and my father was extremely dark. He passed away when I was a baby, and my mother remarried a white man. So I was raised in a white family. I was assumed to be adopted or, as I got older, that I was my stepfather’s girlfriend (I hated that). People always asked me “what are you?” Or “where are you from?” I lived in several small towns that were predominantly white and people often asked if I was part black and I was even ridiculed for being dark. (I had a boss that laughed at my senior prom picture saying between guffaws that “you look black!” And that made me extremely uncomfortable, because I knew the connotation.) I have since done a DNA test and I’m mostly European followed by indigenous and I have a small percentage of African (with plenty of other things too). It’s weird that even with “a few drops” people have always known and treated me as “other.” As I got older, people would often call me exotic because my ethnicity was androgynous. I’ve always felt like I’ve never been enough of any ethnicity to be apart of it, although I fully consider myself as Mexican now that I’m older and have immersed myself in the culture. I feel like that was robbed from me as a child because I was not exposed to it.

[@rhondajohnson8310]

Love these conversations about race. It is essential that we open up talk about it

[@carolwoodward6141]

Yes, talk … and listen … hear.

[@nytn]

I have so much to learn, kind of intimidating to learn publicly. Thanks for being here!

[@trdiopn5737]

Great interview

[@claireds68]

I find it interesting that most of the comments about Meghan being white appear mostly on US fora. As a 55 year old UK born woman of mixed parentage (mother from Spain, father black Caribbean), I am able to identify myself on government forms as mixed and choose as a subcategory white and black Caribbean. To me Meghan looks liked a mixed race woman who wears her hair straight - not white.

[@skeletalforce9673]

The white category in the US is wider than in Northern Europe

[@peachygal4153]

One of my friends did a DNA test. she's oringially from Louisiana. She found out she had 1% Nigerian and 2% Cameroon. No surpise thee being from Lousiana.

[@nytn]

I have heard that a lot!

[@HootieCute]

Through Ancestry I’ve traced my family back to fourteenth century Sweden. I had my DNA done. I am 88 % Swedish, 2% Neanderthal, 1 % Denisovian, 4 % French and 5% Irish.

[@peachygal4153]

@@nytn Yes, from people who thought they were 100% European or thought they were part native American. Supposedly the story was she had "Cherokee" in her. Her DNA test found none; that does not mean she does not have any, but we know families did that often to hide Black ancestry. People did not like native American either 100 years ago, but it was more "acceptable" than saying part Black.

[@denisehenry3427]

My grandfather told the family, that his mom was Native American. Later in life he told us that she wasn't. She was actually biracial. He told us that he was ashamed of fact that her father was white. From my understanding many blacks did the same.

[@MarilynMayaMendoza]

I’m half Puerto Rican and half Jewish. My father has blonde hair and blue eyes and my mother was the dark one. My present is white even though in my fathers background my DNA came out is 22% from Africa. I don’t consider myself black but I am culturally and ethnically mixed.

[@nytn]

My husband is half PR, too!

[@christaclemons1455]

She’s biologically mixed race. She was culturally socialized as white. She’s not black. You need two black parents to be black.

[@duped8273]

Really because I’m half black half white and everyone from my school thinks I’m only black they never believe me when I say I’m half white.

[@machellegraves9889]

I’m 30% African this came from both my parents being mulattos and frankly you cant tell me I’m not black !! After all the abuse from white people about my hair my color and more I chose to be black where I have been shown nothing but love ❤

[@AJ-ks9ef]

Absolutely not. Try telling all the biracial kids who have been picked on, left out of things and had it pointed out that they were "not white" that you need two black parents to be black. Trust me, they feel their "blackness" - even if they also feel their "whiteness". And I have never understood why people say she was socialized as white. She was predominately raised by her mother & is obviously very close with her mother. Are we just going to discount her mother's "blackness" too - just because she married a white man?

[@lisagrl89m.67]

Exactly!!

[@bluejay9968]

​@@machellegraves9889Doesn't change the fact that your mixed race.

[@rondothard1698]

This world has such a prejudice of plain everyday black non mixed people!

[@mayarodriguezsrensen6904]

I can totally relate to this episode as a person who's half Mexican. My father is a very obviously indigenous looking Hispanic man. My mom is pure WASP. I kind of look like Meghan (not nearly as pretty but same coloring) and people don't know what to do with me and ask me where I'm from or what I am. Literally they've asked "what are you?" When you talked about people saying racist things, that's happened to me a lot where people have disparaged hispanics or talked about "illegal aliens" with disdain and it's so uncomfortable. I never knew how to react because I was always caught off guard. Anyway, great discussion.

[@nytn]

I know what you mean, when you "blend in" enough, you end up in some very awkward situations...and yea the "what are you" question is the worst. I started my ancestry journey and this channel BECAUSE I didnt know how to answer that question and I was embarrassed. I still dont know how to answer it, I just say "a New Yorker" now...

[@mayarodriguezsrensen6904]

@@nytn brilliant response! I’ll say “san franciscan” or maybe Californian.

[@patriciakidd8661]

People in the UK do not call the police because a black person is in their neighbourhood, park, shopping centre etc. the US is very racist towards black people including children, Meghan Markle is a much white as she is black but referring to herself as black means she can play the race card

[@mayarodriguezsrensen6904]

@Blatina I've never heard that before. I know that most dictionaries and encyclopedic sources define Hispanic as people, cultures, or countries related to Spain, the Spanish language, or Hispanidad.

[@erichansen7161]

​@@mayarodriguezsrensen6904 it means mixed.

[@olgadefeo598]

I'm from the South of Italy and people are more mixed than Americans realise. Many years ago I met two guys, one a pale redhead with curly hair and light brown eyes, the other one olive skinned, straight dark brown hair and dark brown eyes. They told me they were brothers and I didn't believe them. They showed me some ID card and I still didn't believe them because they had a very common surname. Eventually I met the rest of their family and saw that one looked entirely like their mother (redhead) and the other looked entirely like their father (darker). They had three sisters, two redheads and one brunette. I would never nowadays make assumptions about people's looks (I was a teenager then). I'm surprised that in a "melting pot" like the USA people still need to be educated about how genetics work 🤔 I live in the UK and I see many mixed families around so I'd never make assumptions. My American friend from Boston who lives in the UK felt, when he first came 30+ years ago, that people of different ethnicities were well integrated here but there weren't many Black people in higher positions. That's changing, of course, the UK has many Black or Brown politicians, including the current Prime Minister and London Mayor I'd like to point out that Meghan's issues were mainly with an aggressive tabloid culture. The fact that she was a woman, and a foreign one at that, probably had more to do with her treatment than the fact she is biracial. Tabloids in the UK like to raise up a celebrity only to knock them down later. They invent feuds or rivalries especially between women, the so called cat fights. They probably think it's women who buy tabloids for the gossip and what better gossip than the cat fights?! This was pointed out by Meghan herself in the Oprah interview. The tabloids were desperate to pit Meghan as the villain against Kate Middleton the future queen (therefore untouchable). A lot of the articles were about supposed breaches of royal protocol. She's a foreigner, so to the tabloids she was game in that respect. The Royals themselves have poured scorn on the idea that there's protocols dictating ridiculous things such as the colour of nail varnish (Kate was photographed wearing red nail varnish recently, I can't imagine the outrage if Meghan had done it). So good old fashioned misogyny and xenophobia, classism (she's an actress, horror!) was at stake before her ethnicity was even considered (they may be racist but they don't like it being pointed out to them, hence the dog whistles, such as "Straight outta Compton"). For anyone who has the interest and motivation, check how monstrously Yoko Ono was treated by the British tabloids in the 70's for having the temerity of "entrapping" a golden British boy. Meghan's situation is a repeat of Yoko Ono's 50 years ago. It may not be the case in the USA, but in the UK Yoko Ono's name is a byword to mean interfering wife or partner, because she was often present at the Beatles rehearsals, although it's doubtful she interfered in their music in any way. Meghan keeps being accused of dragging Harry away to California, away from cold rainy Britain, the horror, which is not only misogynistic but also insulting towards Harry himself, implying he has no will of his own. PS: I love the Drake line "light skinned but Black as hell". I also love the new word incognegro, which I'll put next to pretendindians... 😅

[@tishainnis]

Great video!!!

[@nytn]

Tisha, so glad you liked it!

[@tishainnis]

@@nytn Thank you! Your videos keep getting better and better. Jeremy’s insights on phenotypes, and mistaken identity was phenomenal and a topic that resonated with me because I constantly experience mistaken identity.

[@nytn]

@@tishainnis thank you for the kind words. What should I do for future videos?? And "mistaken identity" wow, I love that phrase applied here. Might need to use it!

[@blackdove3057]

Black is NOT an antiquated term!!! I take great offense to that. I do proudly identify as black and African American.

[@PsychicMedium4747]

um speak for yourself. Many of us mixed race are proud of our mixed heritage. BTW black africans SOLD their OWN people into chattel slavery AND over 10k black people in America owned slaves. Thought you should now just in case you think whites were the only monsters and rapists...blacks did it to and they get NO passes smh. She does NOT look black. Did you fail history? Blk people never came to this country looking like Meghan...EVER. They were PITCH black with 4c hair...they looked nothing like Meghan. You are spreading false info. Black people DO NOT come in light skinned , light eyes, long silky loose hair...absolutely NOT. I cannot post my youtube videos here, but my channel has lots of historical photos f the original slave phenotypes and they ALL looked like AKON, HARRIET TUBMAN LUPITA, ALEK WEK. If any black parents have children like meghan it means BOTH parents are MIXED aka BIRACIAL or MULTI_GENERATIONAL MIXED! Fact!

[@Lily_of_the_Forest]

Side note: please let your hair be curly! I’m so sorry AA hair has been criticized. Curls and Coils are BEAUTIFUL!

[@nytn]

LOL, thanks. It's so much work and I have spent probably thousands of dollars on products at this point in my life (37 years old) trying to figure it out. It's never the same day to day....

[@kitty_s23456]

@@nytn hi Danielle. I have a friend from high school who's natural hair is similar to yours. During our final year of HS, she started straightening her hair. Her hair was very thick (maybe double to mine) and was wavy/ spongy too (we call it "sponghado" in my language, meaning spongy). I think for her, it was somewhat due to the beauty standards and peer pressure - most of us had straight hair, like 1A to 1C, I think her hair is 2A or 2B. She still straightens it today. In my country, all the shampoo ads feature girls with straight hair. I think it shouldn't be the case, and that companies should also feature curly/ wavy haired women, since we also have some African ancestry, esp for some tribes (the negritos/ Aeta tribe - the out of Africa migration theory). Of course, in time some of these tribes married/ had kids with the Malay lowlanders, who were mostly straight haired. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I hope you (and my friend) come to terms with your hair, whether curly or straight. Cheers. :-)

[@ktjajj]

As a black woman I would have in the *past* considered her black. However as I have aged I do not consider mixed race people black unless they want to claim that identity for themselves. Also you dont have to use black in quotation marks. Most black people use the term to identify. African American is a formal pc term. Theres more to it but its hard to articulate in a short written comment.

[@nytn]

Andrea, thank you. I feel like I never know what terms are okay and which arent and I hate to think Im disregarding someone's preference!

[@audreyjackson7379]

@@nytn it’s okay to use the quotations around black because as many people that choose to identify as black there are just as many that chose to identify as African American.😊

[@alannahprestaynofbraavos5759]

People in the USA who are biracial are assumed to identify with an AA community. The ostracization comes not just from her appearance, but also from their "concerns" about her allegiance.

[@dotsan8543]

Esther has come into the Palace for such a time as this ...

[@mrsclutchsussex7455]

I enjoyed this discussion. My parents were both African-American & I have 6 siblings and we dark to brownish. I am 76 y/o. I say Meghan has the ultimate right to say who she is. Sometimes we force people to be who we want them to be.

[@peachygal4153]

The reality is whether she looks Black or not, she was damned by the British tabloids for having a Black mother. Even her own Black mother said Meghan experienced white privilege by strangers who did not know her in the USA before she got involved with Harry. Her experience with racism was seeing her mother called the N word. Doria said she wished she had prepared her better. Meghan never saw that coming. It is true too, at first the press went for her for being divorced and telling all he previous boyfriends. the problem with that tactic was Camilla was divorced and there is info all over the internet on her party girl ways from 1965 until she got married the first time in 1973 and Harry had quiet a bad boy rep himself. So, when that did not stick, they started attacking her at any angle they could. It was much worse than what Kate or even Diana or Fergie was put through. Why? Nitpicking stuff too. Meghan worked too hard. She sent emails at 5 am so that was bullying. Why the heck would anyone answer an email at 5 am? She sent emails for them to be read after getting up. She did not call or text.

[@nytn]

Thank you for sharing this, I wish people had more agency to decide for themselves

[@nytn]

I'll have to come to you with my questions about the royals!

[@PodGoszkimNiebem]

With Meghan Markle, who only dated white wealthy men, it was what worked.for her. The woman has a history that would change any person's color. Currently she black and is using the race card to get money from the king. It isn't her color that is.the issue, it's her behavior.

[@PodGoszkimNiebem]

@@peachygal4153 Doesn't anyone question why Doria showed up out of nowhere? The two ladies work well together, extortion, bleeding people, setting people up, and making people like Oprah and Tyler Perry look stupid. LOTS OF WEALTHY PEOPLE TURNED AWAY FROM THEM. DORIA disappeared, Meghan is hoping for miracle, and Harry is going to Coronation to get money from Charles.

[@sallyintucson]

I’m surprised the media hasn’t called her mulatto. Now THAT’S a antiquated term!

[@nytn]

Oh boy that would be crazy to read

[@tishainnis]

@@nytn it definitely would be! Considering mulatto translates in English, a donkey mix with the Mule. 😤

[@hnicbell]

My family had a mixed race matriarch, and we mainly considered mixed people to be what their mother is. Not totally sure all of the reasons why.

[@rachelhill4758]

Both I think. She plays both sides as she should. Also the media coverage has labeled her as black or mixed race and used is a a way to defame her. She talks about not understanding how she would get the treatment she did based on her color like her racial ambiguity would protect her from the Hate or discrimination Black people regularly get. She may not have had that experience growing up based on the way she looks but it’s hard to perceive that she didn’t underestimate that with a black mother growing up in the suburb of LA. But also a large percentage of the United Kingdom is of African decent so it should be recognized . And she may represent or can represent that based on ancestral dna. However it’s such a hard topic with the royal family. As someone who frequently goes down the monarchy train it’s always going to be a point of contention even though now it should not be.

[@rhondae8222]

She is biracial.

[@kcn7826]

In Monroe, Louisiana down the service road past Sam's Club a big slave cemetery was recently bulldozed and fortune 500 company put there, nobody was relocated, the cemetery was overgrown by trees, but the sellers knew it was there, probably greed, but they were "in the way" I was told, my signature never allowed this

[@-LivingProof]

How disrespectful. The greed of people is so disturbing & evil.

[@nytn]

I am shocked to read this, but also, not really :(

[@gregedgar6012]

They are running into the same shameful situation in Florida. Black cemeteries, some 100+ years old, just bulldozed and paved over and buildings built. No respect at all. Simply disgusting and they are being called on it. Excavations are being done in several areas and the dead respectful put back to rest but there are dozens more being investigated.

[@nytn]

@@gregedgar6012 The idea of paving over is truly shocking

[@RedRiverMan]

the demon of white supremacy-won't even let the Ancestors rest for the love of money...

[@TrillEverything]

The walk of people who cannot deny their "blackness" is a tough one. All the mixed people decrying that black people see them as mixed is precisely based on them not having overt racist experiences with white citizens.

[@kimmy8218]

Most black people consider mixed people to be black. The problem is that most mixed race people don't present as white. Marilyn Markle does not look white, she looks like many black people that have 2 black parents. Robyn Dixon from housewife of Potomac DNA test came back 59 percent white with 2 black parents. Most black Americans are mixed. Most of my relatives from North Carolina are light skin with green or hazel eyes. What a lot of white people don't like to talk about is how black women were raped by white men during and after slavery that why so many african Americans are mixed race. People like Marilyn Marilyn Markle are common in the black community ommon in the

[@PsychicMedium4747]

@@kimmy8218 um speak for yourself. Many of us mixed race are proud of our mixed heritage. BTW black africans SOLD their OWN people into chattel slavery AND over 10k black people in America owned slaves. Thought you should now just in case you think whites were the only monsters and rapists...blacks did it to and they get NO passes smh. She does NOT look black. Did you fail history? Blk people never came to this country looking like Meghan...EVER. They were PITCH black with 4c hair...they looked nothing like Meghan. You are spreading false info. Black people DO NOT come in light skinned , light eyes, long silky loose hair...absolutely NOT. I cannot post my youtube videos here, but my channel has lots of historical photos f the original slave phenotypes and they ALL looked like AKON, HARRIET TUBMAN LUPITA, ALEK WEK. If any black parents have children like meghan it means BOTH parents are MIXED aka BIRACIAL or MULTI_GENERATIONAL MIXED! Fact!

[@PsychicMedium4747]

@@kimmy8218 gave your comment a thumbs DOWN!

[@japeri171]

I think that certain countries are not prepared to deal with people of mixed race. P.s:Danielle,your natural hair is beautiful.

[@nytn]

Thank you :) It's been a battle for a long long time. Every few years I give it a try again.

[@jennifersmetanko6631]

I would love it if someone called me just a angry black woman❤. And I would probably say something back like you damn right and I'm proud of it✊❤🇺🇸

[@peachygal4153]

I agree a badge of honor. It comes form begin mistreated and refusing to take mistreatment off people. Nothing wrong with that.

[@JB-3794]

I know what you mean, but on the other hand being angry keeps people away from you, and can damage opportunities you might have had otherwise. I think there is a more clever way of standing up for yourself, while not driving others away. Dignity does not have to be combatative. Of course there are times when being openly angry might be the answer.

[@jennifersmetanko6631]

@@JB-3794 I'm not a mean angry person but sometimes I have had to be in my life at times when people had been confrontational with me undeservingly😉. But Generally I'm nice and like and get along with everyone.❤

[@justicesmith1934]

Danielle stop it...those earrings are gorgeous 🥰 can't stop looking at them

[@nytn]

THANK YOU! :) Theyre like....really long. they get stuck sometimes LOL

[@justicesmith1934]

@@nytn that's ok just pure cuteness 😍

[@tracyharris9013]

We are a mixed family. I always called myself a mut, I have 5 different nationalities in me, my husband also has four, so our children have nine. We realize that people that bring up race and say I'm not racist, really are, because when people treat you as a human not what your skin tone is then you never feel as your different because of your skin color. Watch little children they never judge another child because of the color of that child they just want to play. It is the adult who brings in the subject of skin color and subject that one is beneath the other depending on the view of that adult. We find and you do see this in the media and Hollywood, and mostly democrat political party the race card always being pulled up. but really it is the wealth of the person that is the real issue. They don't treat others who have money and wealth like they do the everyday people. So, to us it is an issue of the heart of people and the way they have been raised, that because someone is different in any area of their live that makes these types of people to be consider less then how the like, so then they want to treat those types of people differently than they would people they consider to be more like themself.

[@nytn]

I always love seeing how children either dont notice things like "color", or if they do, it's always asked in a very open way and then they are ready to move on to playing with each other. Too many adults have not been able to move on and getting on. I feel bad for those who are under constant scrutiny

[@robinvolpi]

Mostly Democratic party, huh? Interesting theory. Inaccurate yet Interesting. And when the DEMOCRATIC party (comprised of actual CITIZENS from across the Nation) allegedly regularly "bring this up," why is that exactly? Do tell.... because I already know the answer just as I understand how the REPUBLICAN party regularly brings up race but many ppl selectively don't realize or pay attention to it. So share with us, O' Wise One, why those pesky Democratic constituents feel the need to occasionally have to discuss race.

[@PodGoszkimNiebem]

I can relate to children with 3 races, and 8 nationalities. The difference is I see children, most folk seen me thousand times with them, no more questions. They play with all races, unless the ain't behaving right, teach them to respect everyone. Haven't had any issues.

[@hzlkelly]

Five different nationalities can all just have 2 ethnicities…

[@PurpleRain59]

I see Megan as white I’m mixed race but raised in black culture by my black mother and grandparents. I don’t think Megan is cultured. It’s not about colour it culture

[@nytn]

Gillian that is really good: culture not colour!

[@azsegrxdhtfgvijnkomlewrhtg9508]

I think she lied about being 43%. There's no way she's almost half.

[@vernamcconnell2181]

Megnut is black when she wants to be😂😂

[@bamboosho0t]

Black Americans have lost their ethnic identity. No other continent is discussed with so little context than Africa. And its by design. It shapes why there is a fascination within Black circles with skin color, eye color, hair color & texture. When you observe commercials, 7/10 Black women/girls portrayed are fair complexion, curly blonde/brown natural tendrils, and exhibiting other Eurocentric phenotypes (straight, thinner noses, thinner lips). As if to say, subversively, _”These are the acceptable Blacks…”_ We may not consciously think about it, but we are subconsciously recording this data. I say this as a bi-racial man. It’s sad how the campaign for the denigration of natural Black features is still ongoing; evident with so many Black women dying their hair blonde, color contacts, bleaching their skin or lightening their photos for Social Media. No matter how often we say, _”Black is Beautiful”_ deep down we all know that society at large believes that’s BS. And so do many Black people. We have to hit THAT head on before we can begin healing.

[@nytn]

I agree with this: Black Americans have lost their ethnic identity. I would also argue it is true for many "whites". People dont know where their ancestors are even from, and we need that foundation in so many ways otherwise we are always comparing with our neighbor and that makes no sense. When we know where we come from, it makes a huge difference in how we see ourselves.

[@zeged]

Its because historically the beauty standard was Blonde women with blue eyes and white skin now I think it shifted more to a average latina type look.

[@lucymarinmejia2205]

All of the sudden SINCE SHE WAS TO MARY HAROLD she’s crying black, but all her life she has identified herself as CAUCASIAN !!!!!

[@basslinephunk3441]

We really got ourselves into a difficult position with respect to this "black" and 'white" issue. Sadly, we're not going to sort this out anytime soon. It's evolved over centuries and will take even more centuries to sort out. But only highly-evolved minds can do the sorting.

[@angelicamcknight7209]

I come from a mixed family I was rejected by blacks for not being black enough and whites from not being light enough to pass.

[@ivyd5485]

There's a whole new protectionism now over who gets to identify as black that doesn't historically align with how people were identified in the past in this country. Ppl like Adam Clayton Powell, Lena Horne, Dorothy Dandridge, Halle Berry and many others were always considered black and most importantly they considered themselves black. Black American does not equate to being African and never equated to having to have 2 black parents because in American most black have some percentage of European or indigenous DNA unlike Africans. So black Americans themselves are already a different racial group.

[@nytn]

I like the idea of pointing out the difference for African Americans, the US has such a unique history and especially the US South

[@ivyd5485]

@@nytn In my opinion I would say that Louisiana is the pinnacle of admixture in the US - not that there aren’t other spots but certainly LA would rank in the top of the country

[@nytn]

@@ivyd5485 It's been a good lesson for me. I went into all of this trying to figure out "what' we were, turns out, it's not that simple, and that's a good thing after all.

[@ivyd5485]

@@nytn it’s absolutely an amazing wonderful thing and your life is so much richer because of it ❤️

[@lisagrl89m.67]

Yes, but then when someone is biracial, genetically they would be more white, since blacks are not 100% afro in America, but in general, most blacks in America who aren't biracial have around 10 to 15% white ancestry, pretty much across the board and generational mullatos, (light skinned blacks) have 50 to 60% white ancestry. Robin Dixon from housewives of Potomac, insisted she was All black, but her dna came back 65% white and she was completely shook and upset over it! Yet, to me and many others, she looks almost white or could definitely pass.

[@dimmacommunication]

What are all those codes in the DNA test ?

[@lashurediscussion4970]

I have been told by several people who works within the government (California) informed me race is based on the father of a mixed child. I am going to be vulnerable and put a little my life experience out here. Looking back if I had to do it all over again. I would not have had children outside of my race. This journey has been hard on my children. The black community & my family, friends would not respect my children choose of how they identity themselves. As if they are not supposed to identify the other race. My children are adults now and have shared the struggle of fitting in. If they said they were black. People did believe them as you can’t tell what they are mixed and if they say they were white they did believe them. It was hard for them to find a balance in school. As far their mom, I was always meet with harsh statements. “Are you the adopted mom? Called police on thinking I was kidnapping a kid from a store. The biggest insult a co-worker insisting I was lying about my kids being my kids and that I was nothing more than a step mom and telling everyone one within the office. At some point these harsh statements affected myself esteem so I could imagine what my kids suffered silently by not expressing how they truly felt until they got grown.

[@roshellboudreaux6263]

You should not question someone else's race. Meghan is who she says she is.

[@nytn]

Im not questioning it, Im showing how the media handles it. Let me know after you watch the video. My friend Jeremy makes so many great points.

[@luvlyval587]

​@@nytn I think she meant like the media or people online. I have read some very heated comments online about people debating her race.

[@carolwoodward6141]

Totally agree.

[@lindyashford7744]

Meghan says she is bi-racial, which is what is the American term most used. I would say she is mixed heritage. However, going by her childhood looks I think she would have been widely regarded as black. Here in the U.K. people are either covertly racist because of her blackness, or in denial of systematised racism because ‘they’ do not see her as black, mostly because this interfere3 with their view of what and what black people are, for a start not empowered and privileged people. These views are quite different from ones in the US. Her portrayal in the wider media has been shockingly bad, no holds barred. Everything that could be bad has been attributed to her! People really react very strongly when their ideas on blackness are subverted! She loo’s ok to me, in a very American way, which I am absolutely fine with. White people across Britains former empire are absolutely vile about her! Her mum is also mixed, and that is ok too. Mixed people ARE ok!

[@michellegordon4211]

Why does she chemically straighten her hair to conform with a more Caucasian look? Because she's a hypocrite.

[@marthastevensonwright6262]

It's so crazy to me that people aren't just considered people. As a genealogist, I am researching people and when we have the DNA added, it's just that much better. When you get down to it, nearly all African Americans are mixed. Lots of 'white' people are mixed. Most Native Americans are mixed. Two of my grandkids have European, African, and Native American ancestry. What are they? Tri-Racial? We hippies were so simplistic in the 60s and had this idea that it's all beautiful. I really can't believe that we are still so concerned that people need to be put in negative categories.

[@nytn]

Martha, I agree with you! I only dove into all of this because I started doing my own genealogy (from Louisiana) and it was so shocking to see just how admixed it all was, and it was incredible to see how common it was down there. I wish people could stop gatekeeping how others want to identify and connect and just love each other. Guess Im a bit of a hippie too :)

[@tyronejones7341]

@marthstevensonwright2626; Only a small percentage of Black's in America are mixed because the white slavers bred Slzve women with "Mandingo slaves" to get strong, healthy offspring ! Something they would not get with mixing with white , there was only one mansion on the plantation and many slave shacks. The slaves the Slaver raped were a relatively few on his plantation and there were not that many plantations in the anti-bellum South out of around 9 million population , plus following the Civil War there were the "Jim Crow anti-miscegenation laws" that were strictly enforced all the way up to the 60s. Relationships (carnal) between Black's and Whites even today remains in the single digits.

[@denisehenry3427]

Yes Martha hippie vibes in the 60's was nice. I was introduced to Rock music 🎶 and British music. ✌ 🤘

[@mikkibarker8671]

Its her phoney persona...disingenuous, imagined kids, . She said she " Never knew I was Black until I joined the royal family". We dont claim her if she does not claim us.

[@ucall4751]

Very interesting.❤❤❤❤

[@nytn]

Thanks for watching

[@BonnieDragonKat]

The big issue, which it should not be, is she married a Prince. There are not many people like Megan in the royal family. One thing, we all go back to the same dust.

[@nytn]

amen to that

[@jennifersmetanko6631]

I know I look like I'm white in race but I totally feel black inside like for real ❤. I have a black dad and he helped in raising me. So I definitely got exposure to Black Culture and people. And I know this sounds lame but black people are really cool 👍.

[@nytn]

Jennifer, I remember you shared a bit of your story before. Thanks for watching this one :)

[@jeanninem.4059]

If you come in my country in Africa we will call you white so better you accept yourself as mixte

[@isabelcoetzee5850]

I have mixed grandchildren. Usually, when the color of the skin topics comes up. I always tell them they're unique. They hate words like mixed and multi racial. So they say they are unique and two toned. ..❤❤❤

[@ianmiles2505]

Huh...Ja nee. Goed gedaan.

[@saranagh7097]

R.Meghan Markel is Eurafrican, mixed ( mixed: "Afekasi " in Samoan).

[@cyc2915]

She's neither black or white ! She's a new breed Let me give you a example if you add a lot of cream to coffee it becomes cappuccino Still coffee but in a different category. She falls in the spectrum of color but she's who she feels she more of I'm of mixed decent and I'm all of it and I always check other when asked on documents or by a individual

[@Eileen-xk6wt]

(Cappuccino is espresso with steamed and frothed milk.)

[@gedenironald8635]

So now you hold the monopoly of telling other Black people who is Black and who is not?. You are the ones calling people in Mexico, Cuba and other South American countries Hispanic or Latina but never call them mixed but you have the audacity of telling Black people they are mixed. Europeans brainwashed you.

[@nytn]

LOL, well I love coffee

[@rhondae8222]

@@Eileen-xk6wt I prefer a latte, myself. Lol

[@tiffany_james]

I am mixed (Caribbean + European) and do not identify myself as black or white but identify as mixed even as a non-passing poc. In the Caribbean, parts of Latin America, South America, Brazil + certain places in England (liverpool) there are large mixed/multiracial communities. Everyone understand the whole "mixed" thing, it's not a big deal as it's been going on for generations. Nobody looks at you strange or tries 2 dispute w' you if you call yourself "mixed" lol. Maybe in America it's different idk as I don't live there, I heard that it was more segregated in the past + people weren't allowed to mix as comfortably compared to the places I just previously stated also America had the 1 drop rule. But anyways, mixed folk need to stop pandering to their monoracial sides whether black, asian or white and just own their mixed identity. There's nothing wrong with calling yourself mixed/biracial/triracial/multiracial or multigenerationally-mixed. You are what you are. The outside world may view you or categorize you how they want in their lens but your lens + how you see yourself is important too. Claim what what you are. Your voice matters just as much as the monoracials who constantly have conversations about us mixed-folk over and over again and try to talk about our lives for us when they have not lived our mixed experience. Imo the United States is playing catchup to the whole "mixed thing". They certainly aren't the only nation playing catchup. But now with globalization and easier access to travel, people are starting to date and marry outside their culture + race like never before. There are die-hard monoracials (asian, white, black) that want to keep their bloodline pure + look down on the whole mixing thing in general but I find that these same monoracial ppl could end up with family members/children/friends that marry outside their race and can end up having mixed children. Monoracials have no say in other monoracial people's dating preferences, their influence can only go so far lol. Individuals are gonna do what they wanna do at the end of the day.

[@nemomarcus5784]

You should do an episode on the tri-racial isolates of America, also called the WIN, people. These groups go back hundreds of years including the Creoles, Lumbees, Melungeon, etc. The major controversy is they are pushed into all categories and pushed away at the same time.

[@sandicooley1611]

Depends on what day it is.

[@JustMeB729]

MIXED! BIRACIAL!

[@ECole-le7we]

This topic is confusing for one main reason. And that is that racial classifications were essentially made up and passed on to all of us by pseudoscientists like Carl Linnaeus, Johann Blumenbach, Georges Buffon, and others in the 1700s, who had the audacity to put people in categories that God did not. And amazingly, race has morphed itself depending on the need of so-called whites to maintain their privilege and power. For example, Jewish immigrants in America were not originally considered white. Neither were Italians nor Irish. But over time, these groups came to be called white in order to maintain and/or increase the majority numbers of the ill-defined white race. The bottom line is that race isn't real, folks. Yet and still, this socially-constructed idea has had and continues to have devastating consequences. Therefore, race isn't real; but racism definitely is. (That is why some politicians have sought to cover it all up saying we shouldn't know about the history of race and racism. They push the notion that being "woke" is a bad thing. But for whom is it so bad? It is a not-so-secret effort to sustain the power of racism and, thus, their own power.) And so, though race was made up in the first place, we are still dealing with it today, e.g., segregation, discrimination, always the worst systemic outcomes for so-called black people, confusion around who is this race or that race, and on and on. We go around saying, "He's part black, she's pure white, they're mixed race, I'm biracial" etc., when it is a great big, made-up lie. (A wonderful receptionist in her 20s came into my office one day and shyly asked me if I am mixed. I could see her confusion, which she had probably harbored for some time until she worked up the nerve to ask me. I am considered a light-skinned black, and she is considered a dark-skinned black. I really didn’t think hard about my response about being mixed or not. I simply said, “Yes I am mixed; and so are you.” She looked taken aback, because these topics are not accurately discussed in schools nor in most homes as they should be. So, after her initial reaction, we talked about it some more.) The truth is that most of us seem willing to participate in keeping the race lie going, even if it hurts some of us more than others. All that said, I am proud of my African ancestry, which I “lean into” as you suggested. But the truth is that everyone should be proud of being of African descent, because guess where humanity originated? Blumenbach, himself, admitted that so-called racial classifications are arbitrary, i.e., made up. But he also said that these classifications, “…will be found serviceable to the memory to have constituted certain classes into which the men of our planet may be divided.” “Serviceable to the memory.” That’s how the racial paradigm continues to be indelibly written on the hearts and minds of people in our society. We and our children should understand this truth in order to someday obliterate it. 1) www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_03_a-godeeper.htm 2) www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2151154/ 3) www.encyclopedia.com/science/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/johann-blumenbach-and-classification-human-races 4) www.jstor.org/stable/663460

[@-LivingProof]

Thank you for this! Exactly 💯

[@nytn]

this was an excellent comment, thank you. I am sitting with it a bit right now

[@nytn]

". I simply said, “Yes I am mixed; and so are you.” She looked taken aback, because these topics are not accurately discussed in schools nor in most homes as they should be. So, after her initial reaction, we talked about it some more.) " I really like how you handled this.

[@ECole-le7we]

@@-LivingProof You and I probably share some of the same experiences. Both of my parents were black, and yet I turned out the way God made me. That's because two of grandparents on both sides - my paternal grandmother and my maternal grandfather - had so-called white fathers. When I was a little girl and not old enough to understand genetics, I was hurt and confused when I was called "yellow" or "red" by my own people. I would think to myself, "Call me by my name!" Today, I thank God that learning about the history of race, racial classifications, and systemic racism helped me understand how we all have found ourselves in this situation. Today, I am secure with and proud of who I am; and I feel sorry for fully grown people who don't take the time to learn about these truths for themselves. We would all be better off if they did.

[@sylviafarese8837]

You just reminded me of something. Back when I was growing up, you were either white or black, period so all us Hispanics were classified as white. Then they came up with Spanish Surname then Hispanic. Then there are those who call themselves Chicanos and they say it proudly. I asked someone what is a Chicano and I think they were wrong about their answer because he said that’s when your mom is white and dad is Mexican. All the people that called themselves Chicanos have no white parent. That was back then. In recent years I hear many refer to us as Latinas/Latinos. Who knows what they will call us next. We are all the same!

[@BeautyAnarchist]

I had so many pent-up anger and rage towards the world that I felt like I couldn't show because I was afraid people would think I'm an "Angry Black Person" and I've always had a smile on my face because I figured it made me less threatening to other people but now I don't care, I want to show that I'm angry and enraged and channel it into my activism towards anti-racism because if people think that I'm all these things then they're cleatly buying into strereotypes and being racist so at the end of the day they're not worth it.

[@NikhileshSurve]

Personally I didn't knew she was supposedly black till I heard American media referring her as black. Also when media started talking about black royal babies I started thinking how black or white their kids would be since she looks white & he's very white too. Apparently that was a controversy in the royal family too. I find it odd that the one drop rule is so accepted that people simply regard not being white means you're black.

[@zeged]

tiger woods is 1/8 black and apparently hes black

[@judysadowsky2186]

She is biracial, she claimed on her driver's license to be white. Now she is claiming that she is black and suffers from racism. I am Indian married to a white man, have white children. I never had a problem, I told my kids from a young age that they were biracial and not all white. They really don't care and I don't care. All I wanted for my children was for them to be healthy and happy. If you claimed one parent skin color, does that means the other parent does not exists.

[@nytn]

Judy, I say this same thing about the parents! BOTH count. Of course, people can lean into different parts of their identity but I dont like erasing an entire side of the family.

[@p.thompson5474]

Once again, right on, Jeremy! I really appreciate Jeremy’s breaking it all down with sensitivity. Wonderful examples!**On my first trip to Brazil 20 years ago (living outside of Rio de Janeiro), my host sister who identified as “White”, told me on my first day in their home, “We’re not racist like in the U.S.: You don’t HAVE to be Black here.” My response: What’s wrong with being Black?***. For some people, the label “Black” carries a stigma. I do appreciate the way “Afrodescendant” is beginning to be used. Perhaps its inclusiveness also appeals to those who wish to show pride in their roots even without claiming the label “Black.”

[@nytn]

It's easier for me, who wasnt raised black or even really knew about my black side of the family story, but it feels more reasonable to say I have African ancestors since Im looking White, raised White, but proud of my roots! All of them!

[@JB-3794]

Maybe she just meant you don't have to be any particular race there. You can be any race and be respected. I wonder why you took it negatively?

[@p.thompson5474]

@@JB-3794 wonderful question. I took it as a point of inquiry, not negatively at all. I simply asked as I was there to study racial formation theory in the Brazilian context along with indigenous revitalization movements. "Well, it's just better not to be Black here," was her response. She thought she was being helpful; I understood that. The literature shows that often, depending on the region you are in there and with whom, it is better to be of African- descent than to be "Black". In Salvador da Bahia the context is different.

[@p.thompson5474]

@@nytn This is *your* journey. One of my closest friends responds that he was "raised White"; he found out later in life hat he was descended from formerly enslaved people who moved to Michigan to pass. That's his answer. The Canadian author Wayne Grady who found out later in life that his father had passed for White. Wayne now identifies as a Black/African Canadian. That's how his journey has unfolded. This is your journey. I am grateful that you are sharing it with us.

[@rhondae8222]

She is biracial.

[@blakec8549]

Those old Louisiana ingredients come through for sure lol

[@paisleyprincess7996]

Biracial Person here. Black father, white mother. Based on my own personal experiences, I am considered white to black people. Even black people who KNOW I’m mixed. I never considered myself white, nor do I think I look white, but because of my looks and how white people perceive me, white it is. Culturally I am mixed…My daughter’s father is Nigerian, and my daughter looks more African. I have been asked if she’s adopted…That’s hard 43 percent Nigerian…Wow. She’s more black than me.

[@nytn]

That IS hard. I hate those questions/comments. Ive also had strangers ask me if one of my kids favors my husband because they didnt think she looked related at all (she is more fair). It feels like a gut punch to even deal with those questions...I never know how to reply...

[@paisleyprincess7996]

@@nytn The thing is she LOOKS like me, but she has more African features and she has darker skin

[@doubleutee2100]

I've just watched a few videos on this very same subject matter not to long ago. Some people question, why is "Zendaya" accepted more in the Black community than "Meghan Markle" would be? Much of it get's back to public perception (as your video mentions regarding hair). Zendaya flaunts an Afro-perception/image in her everyday style with concern to mannerisms, but Meghan Markle mixed much with a non-Black experience in her upbringing. There is a KZbin platform where a guy goes into this subject matter with a video specifically sponsored about Meghan Markle. He is a Black Hebrew/Israelite. If you want to see that video, I'll sponsor the link by request. Most Black Israelites go according to their Bible belief in God's word that it's according to the paternal lineage. Regardless, in everyday life, people are usually not going to go around requesting any detailed response concerning parental arrangement of which gender is on which side of the tree. Oh' well...

[@peachygal4153]

When Obama was elected president many were saying why was it he could be elected but not Jesse Jackson.

[@doubleutee2100]

@@peachygal4153 Well, the same can be said about Sharpton or Herman Caine. One could even take it to a lineage level, and quickly realize (I believe) every American president was literally related. Sounds kinda supernatural, huh? Or one could say, Jackson was Israelite, but Obama was part Hamite, and that Israelite is a no go! Nevertheless, to get right to the point that no one can deny, yes, Obama had sufficient European DNA to carry him over the top, while Jesse Jackson did not, and his admixture just doesn't cut it. Peace!

[@nytn]

Zendaya is a good one to bring up. I actually only know about her because I was looking for a hair video on YT to help me when I was still keeping it natural and her hair was more like mine. Didnt know who she was until recently.

[@doubleutee2100]

@@nytn The two Hollywood bumble Zeeee's. There's also Zoe Kravitz (there's Zoe Saldana too, but she's considered more Latina).

[@doubleutee2100]

@Blatina I know this already. As a matter of fact on a different KZbin platform regarding a discussion on whether Cardi B should've done an interview with Joe Biden, and people being touchy on the subject about her ethnicity as a representation for Black America, this is what I typed back to someone who challenged my pondering whether Angela Rye would've been a better choice to have done the interview with presidential candidate Biden... "Double U Tee 2 1 day ago Maybe someone like Angela Rye would've been a better person to interview Biden? Double U Tee 2 12 hours ago @Brother Kareem IDK about her parents, but she was born in Seattle, Washington according to what I can gather. Mc Fact 11 hours ago ​ @Double U Tee 2 ya don't look at where a person was born, ya look at the lineage. Double U Tee 2 10 hours ago @Mc Fact Re-read slowly what I wrote - SLOWLY - and after you find out, get back to me about your "RESEARCH". At least I tried. Your turn. And if you can do better. GOOD! Mc Fact 34 minutes ago @Double U Tee 2 Angela's mom is whyt Double U Tee 2 4 minutes ago (edited) @Mc Fact You did some research! Very well done. Then that being the situation, like Alicia Keyes, Jennifer Beals, or Lisa Bonet she is a Blk woman. That's backed by the Blk Israelites interpretation of the Holy Bible, because it goes according to the paternal lineage: Matthew 1:1-17. Angela Rye is Blk or mixed if you prefer. Both are correct. Oops! Almost forgot, all of their fathers are Blk American." So, you see that I already knew about such a discernment, but not everyone is basing their votes on that. Tulsi Gabbard would've probably made a better president than Biden or Kamala, but I didn't care for Gabbard's religious orientation, but I'm just one person....

[@rondothard1698]

Another thing is that I noticed that it's not a big deal if your mixed with anything other than black. I have friends that are half Mexican half white half white half Asian half white, no big deal however if you're black and white it's like stop hold up you're what? Here it is in today's time 2023 most kids that are mixed came from a white mother black dad. Over 100 years ago it was almost always the father was white.

[@kurkolman]

Women follow what is promoted and are opportunistic ,especially today when all of the populations is to pay for their decisions and provide for them Today what is promoted is based on the teachings of people like Marcuse Men are more practical and simply want the best possible deal Most laws and regulations in the past have been pointed against european men . Take Irish as one example When they came 150 years ago without money or ability to gain property on ships that did have only "sausages" loaded the best deal made was from women that are not European

[@rondothard1698]

Well, that may be true, however a black man had almost no chance at all of being involved in any way with a white woman in those days and if he were caught it was lights off for him. Most of the black women who had theses mixed kids it wasn't by choice. They were lured by the slave owner or if it was later than slavery, she was most likely a maid it was some less than desirable relationship going on with the white man.

[@Catlily5]

My friend is half Hispanic and it has been a big deal for her. She looks more white and her Hispanic side of the family and white people don't accept that she is part Hispanic which is hurtful to her. She is not being recognized for her whole self.

[@kurkolman]

You are underestimating opportunism Women don't care for tribe or lineage historically but for their place in the world and for their support of what is "virtuos " .. Take Marie-Joseph Angélique what do you learn from her story what was her motivation and what was the motivation of Thibault ( following his situation ) And no ,she did not burn the city because of him ...think about it..... or from the institution of "Plaçage" The region from what i originated was "under the care" of certain people from Asia for a long time ...let us say you could observe a similar behavior you see today in Europe and America and you did see in certain regions in Africa not that long ago Women love power and who does have more power than men encouraged and protected when they commit violence...even against own men ( especially against own men ) You are romantic ,be real

[@kurkolman]

if you want bigger examples ..take yamnaya in Europe ,ancestors of west europeans(but only the male lineage) Iberomaurusian ..the male ancestors of africans ( only the male lineage) or Anglo Saxons in England not even 15 00 years ago ..native men are gone ..native women ...did make love

[@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING]

Culturally is one thing, based on terrible decisions across the ages, but there is no, never will be, anything remotely close to mix race. Skin tones are adaptive traits, and everyone is a gradient of melanin. There is no white nor black in terms of race. But people can't get over categorizing. People do seem to be tribal, but we also have a brain and a heart, so we could either use our reasoning, our hearts, or both, and figure it out. There's plenty of literature for free online to clear a lot of things up. But at the same time, humans are impossible at some level. It's a miracle the world runs slightly ok as it is lol. Great episode.

[@nytn]

People love categorizing! It is amazing how much we want those boxes. Even for ourselves

[@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING]

@@nytn True, we're all stuck using categories to one degree. We use categories to simplify the world, and in a sense that's fine, but folks are using the wrong definitions to place others into boxes, based on wrong assumptions. The whole issue is a mess. You've done a great job with these videos.

[@alannahprestaynofbraavos5759]

What does it matter? Why does she (or anyone) have to choose an identity to suit society? As Jeremy Simien said, there is absolutely an obsession with race in the US.

[@tonyraissa864]

I started following her since she got married into that family. It's sad to see how the British media treats her.

[@mahalallel2012]

You need to compare her to a typical sub Saharan African first, then make a decision. She would pass as white in Spain and Portugal, but not in England or Germany...

[@nytn]

Good point, the context can matter. Where you are and what culture is around you

[@rhondae8222]

That's because Spain and Portugal are not White nations. Those people are Caucasians. Caucasian is not the same as White. TBT

[@robertcampbell1544]

She's has more white features, but her mother is black still in the Black African American race.

[@peachygal4153]

Harry never said in his book Charles asked about Archie's skin color. I read it. Obviously, they never read the book. Harry also told Oprah he will never reveal whom. He made it clear he despised Camilla. My guess is her pr possibly William.

[@nytn]

Thank you for clarifying! No I did not read it, just some articles. Im brand new to the royal family drama, and wow is there a lot to catch up on.

[@peachygal4153]

@Ellie5621 Yes, but yet he was still very kind to William in how he expressed it. You could tell he loves him a lot. In spite of everything.

[@peachygal4153]

@@Ellie5621 Pies Morgan claims Omid Scobie said Kate and Charles but Harry and Meghan said one person brought it up. Omid also said he never said it so it seems suspicious how it got into the Dutch translation of his book. It makes me wonder if someone framed him. As he said, he does not speak Dutch and his book was written in English and that was never in the manuscript.

[@mishmosh9308]

This obsession we have with race kills me. I consider myself human first then Black if I must choose, even though both parents are "Black" they were ethnically/culturally different. I hated the term "African American because I was American born but only 1 parent was American and no one was African so it was not so.ething I could identify with. I Also hated they idea of having a prefix to separate me from being an American. I grew up American but not, so I had my own cultural identity issues yet so much is focused on race. I didn't see or feel what race was until I was an adult because my family is very global and my global village was never about race. Race is such a human construct and IS such a divisive idea in so many ways I feel. I knew someone who's parents were medium brown complexion and their daughter was very fair skin with wavy blonde hair and blue eyes. She looked like an anglo version of her parents, anyway she identified as Black and people would have issues because she did not look "black". It makes me think about the issues that Anthony Lennon goes through because he is born of white parents but reads Black and get treated as Black but is said that he is living a lie when he is just living and people can't accept him because he does not fit in the color box they want him to be in. I mean if someone is consistently treated as Black all the good and bad parts is it wrong for them to identify as such even when they twll their story and no one believes it.. My friend saw the treatment of others to her when they thought she was white and surprise when she would vocally say she was black. I do wonder what life was like for her as an adult. I love what you said when you say that race gets weaponized and I feel that is the case. I wish race was not the focus and culture ethnicity were more so and people were thought to be comfortable with themself. My best friend has multi-ethnic children and she tries to make sure that they are comfortable with all aspects of themselves and appreciate all that they are. Am I wrong to feel that race takes up too much space in our daily dialog and still there is no real understanding because at the end of the day we are all human, we are all the same we bleed, cry and love yet race is still used to divide

[@nytn]

Yes, race takes up way too much space in the dialogue. I hope I am not contributing to that problem, but for me as a mother of children with English, Italian, African, Mexican, Indigenous, and Puerto Rican and Egyptian ancestry (and more) I am questioning things as I start having conversations with them about who they are, what matters and all that. It's more complex than it should be, that's for sure.

[@Fifilamoo]

I was raised to be “colour blind” by my parents… our genealogy ranges from and includes… Celtic, Croatian, South African, and English just to name a few… I grew up with friends who were from Vietnam, Italy, Lebanon, Greece, China etc… I grew up thinking most of us Aussies were “mixed”… with our Indigenous population being the authentic Australians and the rest of us literally a mixed bag from all over the world. I respect the American culture is very very different. My first boyfriend was “black” (and I hate saying that as he was waaay more than his skin colour) he was gorgeous and no one cared about our different shades of skin colour… we even used to sing ‘ebony and ivory’ together… (probably unPC these days) we respected our diversity and never thought of the “race” issue… As an Aussie, it breaks my heart that so much sadness seems to stem from “race” and labels etc… its shame that racism is still so painful for so many people. And perhaps it was wrong for my parents to raise us to see all people as equals… If I ever articulate this to younger people now, I am shouted down because by virtue of my “pale” skin I’m apparently ignorant due to “white” privilege… It seems very contentious in America and it’s surprising as you are a nation that has been built by so many different people from so many different origins. Sorry to ramble. And I look forward to learning more through channels like this. But is it stupid and naive to believe in embracing the beauty that comes with diversity?

[@sylviafarese8837]

Mush Mosh The term African-American began being used when rap got mainstream, first time I heard it was by Queen Latifah. Suddenly it was embraced by blacks yet like many have come to say, they don’t know anything about Africa, they are Americans yet it was same race who started using it. I believe Jesse Jackson may have used that term before rap and Latifah but she was wearing African outfits and always said African-American. Goes to show us there will be those who are proud to claim so then those who don’t.

[@sylviafarese8837]

@@nytn Hi! I remember you answering me on a comment I put on your videos searching for Lola and it’s been interesting to discover me being Spanish, Portuguese, German, Mexican, Indigenous and yes, small percentages of Morrocan and African. The small percentages show to be 8 generations back! Lastly, I don’t remember the race war like it is in current times but I was born in 1955 so I remember fondly how for the most part while growing up, all races got along. Of course there were times we’d suffer prejudices because we weren’t white.

[@Kindred04]

@@sylviafarese8837 The term African American has nothing to do with rap nor Queen Latifah. The term goes all the way back to the 1800s, when Black people were trying to mold their own identities in a country where we didn't feel we belonged and where our ancestors had been brought by force. We had been here for centuries by that time, and while most had never been to Africa they still wanted some kind of connection to the motherland. In the 1960s, the term "Afro American" was used for a while as an alternative to being called black or negro. Then African American made a resurgence in the 1980s. I have no idea why you think Queen Latifah or rap had anything to do with it. The term was "embraced by blacks" (as you put it) because many of us are proud of our heritage and wanted a way to identify with our ancestry that had been stripped away from us, regardless of the fact that we had never been to Africa ourselves. Unfortunately, there are many Black Americans who distance themselves from all things African and therefore don't want to be referred to as African American. But there are plenty of us who proudly honor our ancestors by identifying as such.

[@OreliaLatrice]

I consider Meghan to be biracial. I believe her identity is always questioned & made a big deal because she married into the royal family. When some see me, they assume that I’m Dominican (& that is before knowing my name! 😂) ..people make assumptions & mix in a few stereotypes & when the truth goes against the stereotype they believe they have a confused look on their face. 😆 Also, my daughter is 17 years old & very fair skinned, dark hair & recently I had to call up the school because on some of her paperwork they listed her as Hispanic. 🤦🏽‍♀️ My son is a brown skinned 15 year old with long dark braids… My kids are West Indian(which is Jamaican) from my Husband’s side) & Blackfoot Indian (from my side). The classification of Black/White trips people up every time.

[@nytn]

The binary mindset is shocking because it's like...do people not realize LOTS and LOTS of other groups have darker skin? And why is Hispanic always the catch all? If you are mixed, well... are you sure you arent Hispanic? LOL

[@OreliaLatrice]

@@nytn Yeah, EXACTLY!! it’s very shocking to me too. Very good questions! LOL. It’s part of the stereotypes that causes the misconceptions. The ignorance of some is so real! I always encourage people to travel outside the USA.. they will learn the truth then. Way more than what America tells us. I’m very sure I’m not Hispanic. Lol 😂

[@dmendez4741]

Half Cuban half Anglo American, my dad looks like Marco Rubio my mom is blonde with green eyes. Most ppl are thrown off by my last name bc I live in the upper midwest and look "white" (got mom's green eyes), but I've never had a bad reaction from anyone except Latinos when they find out I barely speak Spanish, but that's more of a cultural reaction than to my appearance.

[@zeged]

Do you mean English by Anglo?

[@doreenplischke2169]

Once and for all. She is mixed. She is biracial.

[@nytn]

Doreen, I think that's where I fall on this, too. I dont like being told I have to choose "one" side and neglect the others myself

[@kathleenkinchela7180]

I'm an Australian, my husband is indigenous, my children are white but acknowledge as Koori as have black and white ancestors, both of my husbands parents were also indigenous, eventually we will all come from mixed races and the world world will be a better place

[@kurkolman]

All cooperative populations that have a vulnerability to altruistic agents have to have some kind of mechanism for selecting the in-group and out-group. If they don't they will be simply replaced through populations that do have that mechanism

[@lisagrl89m.67]

Aborigines don't have African dna, they are just black in color. They're origin is a type of Indian or melanesian. I don't understand why white Australians call them blacks.

[@ianmiles2505]

Noooooooooo

[@jamesvesta]

Meghan is neither or both. She's human with a diverse background. She's unique, just like you and me and everyone else. She is not more special or more of a victim than any of us. Currently, I classify her as a spoiled victimhood chaser. That said, she's still human, could change and so I'll chant/pray for her happiness right now. She has such an opportunity to make a difference in the world. So far she hasn't taken that opportunity, but time will tell. Hope only dies, when we decide something is hopeless.

[@8AUGS]

😢😢Meghan is who she says she is, and deserves every right due her as a human. I classify your statement about her, sarcastically bipolar. Next, you'll tell us the monarchy is not racist, caste, and an abusive institution. Even Harry said he held back a lot of damaging information, about his family, from his book. They have been doing humanitarian work since they were young. They created and continue to support charities, more than the whole monarchy have done lately. What's hopeless and inhumane is the relentless racist attack by abusers like you.

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I consider white mixed, because culturally she grew up in a white environment and in general she can pass or is racially ambiguous.

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All one has to do is look at Meghan's mother, who raised her and is dark-complexioned, to know which racial category Meghan should be classified. Meghan keeps her hair straight now, but it was very kinky when she was a child.