John Kelly, Fascism and McDonalds: 12 Days Until Election Day

[@joshoowa]

It’s so weird seeing Michael Barbaro talk instead of just hearing it

[@tonioinverness]

I really needed him to be fatter for some reason...

[@acook213]

TBH, he's much more wide-eyed and almost anxious-looking than I would've thought.

[@arthurswanson3285]

Would you like fries with your fascism? 😂

[@jointhejourney7472]

There are so many Republican men, including Senior Level Republican Generals and leaders, who are goddamn cowards.

[@squamish4244]

Just to get reelected, they allowed Drumpf to run again when they knew they should have stopped him the first time around. Say you want to let them off the hook for the first time. Say they didn't know how bad he would be. Or what his judges would do. But they let it happen again _anyway._ Just to get reelected. Apparently not thinking this through, or not knowing their history. If Trump or his successors establish a fascist regime, then what's the use for elected officials? Hitler had no need for them, that's for sure. I'm sure awhile after Trump (hopefully) loses and the MAGA furor dies down, these men and women, most of whom are secretly actually hoping he loses and is gone for good, will then change their tune and say that Trump was actually no good for the country, and they are sorry that they ever supported him.

[@KrnelPanc]

Liz Cheney has bigger huevos than those guys

[@BenClark83]

“What was in it for them?” Bone chilling, Inhuman monster. Regardless of how you feel about the use of America’s military Arlington Section 60 is hallowed ground. The fact that he will be able to send people into harms away and not have the tiniest bit of empathy for their sacrifice. Unfit.

[@Kong_man_for_life]

If you really want to be scared see ‘The Apprentice’ movie. By the end you see Trump in full terrifying color. He’s 100% hollow inside, cheap plastic.

[@BenClark83]

@@Kong_man_for_life Got my ticket for Alamo draft house.

[@Huggybear711]

This is very true, better to have someone who pretends to give a shit then have someone who's honest about the pointless sacrifice.

[@camipco]

@@Huggybear711 Those two things are not opposites. I believe most US military deaths are the result of pointless sacrifice. However, I also believe the dead people in Arlington were human beings who were trying to do something good and I care about their lives and I can empathize with their motivations. I think joining the US military is the wrong choice and I would advise anyone against it. I also understand why the people who do would be moved to do so for noble reasons (including just making enough money to survive / feed their families). And finally, 'pretending to give a shit' is often the morally correct thing to do. When someone I barely know tells me their elderly relative who I just found out existed has recently died, I don't actually give a shit about the elderly relative. But I do pretend to, because it acknowledges the person I am talking to is a human being whose feelings matter. You don't have to actually feel the emotion of caring for it to be morally correct to act as if you care.

[@Huggybear711]

@camipco I think you have that turned around a little showing empathy to another person in emotional pain is compassion. Pretending to care to score political points as you devise new ways to kill Americans and in this case genocide the Palestinian people is just monstrous. Don't get me wrong Trump is a silver spoon fool but there is no difference between him and Harris other than a lack of pretense

[@medygantz8855]

It matters to me! T is not fit nor deserves the Presidency! Thank you for the conversation and Kelly!

[@matthewh.2539]

If you are angry and worried then do something about it. You get the democracy you work for. Focus your energy. Vote, get your friends to vote, volunteer, donate. Plenty of orgs to support (Republicans Against Trump, NextGen, Vote Save America, VoteRiders, etc.). Two weeks left. Take action or you have nothing to complain about if Trump wins....

[@erc9468]

Just about everyone completely understands that this is nothing more than a desperate, coordinated messaging campaign orchestrated by a failing candidate. This is a partisan message that they are attempting to boost using sycophantic media. So in other words, more delusional “LITERALLY HITLER” BS.

[@harrisrosenberg7992]

Big Corporations CONTROL OUR GOVERNMENT 100%

[@squamish4244]

If Trump wins, there will be many Republicans who will come to regret it years down the line, even after Trump is dead or incapacitated. If he wins, and this may happen anyway, but a GOP victory will accelerate the process, the country may start to literally fragment along regional lines, and guess who are the losers. Kim Stanley Robinson, a science fiction author who is known for big ideas, wrote a book set in the 2040s where the interior of the USA has become a lawless place full of economic ruin and warlords who maintain their power through resource extraction and the coastal areas have become literal strongholds of democracy, innovation and unusually long-lived, youthful senior citizens, as medical and every other kind of science has continued to advance. Even with the challenges of rising sea levels and changing climates. It's both engaging and depressing.

[@acook213]

Completely agree. I canvassed in PA several times and am planning to do so in the last four days of the election. At bare minimum, I'm sleeping a little better knowing I did something.

[@NatelleB]

Thank you Mike Schmidt for your hard work and awesome journalism.

[@Bearer_of-Light]

My wife and I voted in Pennsylvania, both for Harris/Casey. My wife is a 1st time voter. My oldest child is also voting for the first time ever this election. He's also a Harris supporter as is his gf who's also voting. +4 in Pennsylvania, 3 of which are brand new voters

[@tantrumboy]

Thank you!!

[@kahlilbt]

I moved to PA in 2019 and I'll be happily voting Harris/Casey with you 👍🏽

[@Jimmy2toes4u]

This won’t age well

[@seeladevigovindasamy7838]

Losers!

[@Bearer_of-Light]

@@Jimmy2toes4u sure about that traitor?

[@FLOHJO27]

I don’t know who needs to hear this, but VOTE.

[@acook213]

Don't just vote, VOLUNTEER! Canvass, phone bank, do whatever you can to get other people to vote too.

[@HZ-fg9sf]

The problem with just releasing an audio through traditional media is that people it needs to reach are not going to hear about it or believe it unless they see video footage, or he gets out and does a press conference. For a general who understands the stakes, Kelly is still a major coward.

[@jeffhess4650]

All the participants are solid journalists with stellar credentials. However, four white guys? Please.

[@amoblahblah]

Yeah this is not a time to observe political norms like former Generals staying out of the political fray. This is the biggest emergency since the civil war.

[@Merdock19]

​@@amoblahblah what gets me, is that this idea that "former generals stay out of politics" is just not a long held tradition. Starting with Washington and going all the way to Eisenhower, just 71 years ago, generals have been going so far into politics as to be elected president.

[@ianferguson8692]

100% this. Kelly did this interview to let him sleep at night. You either believe Trump is a fascist threat to American democracy and is unfit for office or you don't. And if you do then is this honestly the only defence a US general can muster against domestic fascism? This "I won't tell people how to vote but I won't not tell them what I think" kind of grey zone is pathetic. An audio interview days before the election doesn't move the needle. It is pretty much the bare minimum above staying silent entirely.

[@andrewsams335]

"Pollacoaster" that's a good word to describe it.

[@11eqgt5n7eq]

There's a weird influx of insulted republicans in these comments. Nothing but ignorance, insults and posturing on this reasonable discussion.

[@peterfazio9306]

They're here for everything NYT does. I don't know why they're even here.

[@PaulBell88]

Larry David phenomenon. You call out someone being a dick, they accuse you of being the dick. 'How dare you point out what I am doing? You are being hysterical'.

[@Nickabod79]

@@11eqgt5n7eq some are definitely bots. You can see it in the comments section of the article too. They had to turn off commenting.

[@onedroprule]

This is not unexpected but still shocking. It is incomprehensible that people would vote for Trump.

[@ericcampbell503]

Thank you NYT for telling us a lot of what we already knew. -__-

[@KrnelPanc]

I feel we all have taken zanex and drank alcohol and zoned out while the fire alarm is flashing red strobe lights in our face

[@trails3597]

The Naval Observatory is the heart and soul of service to one's country. This precisely signals to John Kelly's point that Trump doesn't get it and is a place which is available to Kamala the candidate. Kamala gets it.

[@ginyilee6538]

guys need to come out to vote. this might be the last election

[@politicalcorrectnessbelong5300]

lol just like the last one??

[@PaulBell88]

The more fascist he gets, the more voters move towards him and cite 'price of eggs'. Disgusting people would live through economic collapse as long as the people they are scared of are dissapeared.

[@johnnyscarecrow71]

Will we be able to purchase cheaper eggs in the camps?

[@shinzontheta]

Its just a version of the old "well at least the trains run on time.". Should people be surprised?

[@seanj4119]

@@shinzontheta And the trains didn't even run on time anyway because Hitler and Mussolini wasted the maintenance funds on vanity projects.

[@ZeroingTruths]

Encouraged by all the Dem voters! Voted Blue 🌊🌊🌊💙

[@mcmanpa]

It seems to me that a major factor behind the early voting numbers is the implicit recognition by the voters that one of the only ways to circumvent the non-compulsory voting system in America and its exposure to doubts that it truly reflects the will of the American people is to vote in such huge numbers that a de facto vote of the entire eligible & registered voting pool is achieved.

[@DavidNunezPNW]

I'm not shocked they are all white dudes lol i typically only listen on my Overcast app.

[@goodwolf152]

No Ross Douthit.........good call.

[@I-Libertine]

This was a great SNL skit! Wait...what?

[@Apheleion]

1. Leaves authoritarian/dictatorship country 2. Starts new life in America 3. Votes in authoritarian/dictatorship 1. Leaves authoritarian/dictatorship country the cycle continues.

[@arthurswanson3285]

2.25: Gets fries from McDonald's with old orange guy working drive-thru

[@Kitkatteg]

Voted today. Go vote!

[@leotrevas]

It's great to see Michael in real life and give a body to a voice. I had somehow imagined him differently, more like a plump professor.

[@acook213]

Haha, I didn't imagine him plump, but I agree, maybe more professorial.

[@Nickabod79]

I read the article. I could not even finish listening to this. Now? He's finally saying these things to be documented now? And it will make no difference whatsoever. America will get exactly what it deserves. It just hurts like hell that so many of us will have to go down with it.

[@politicalcorrectnessbelong5300]

Yup go all the way down like last time. Do you clowns even hear yourselves? He was already president. We are all still here. At the very least you’re a drama queen. At worst mental issues.

[@Nickabod79]

@@politicalcorrectnessbelong5300 tell that to my 3 dead relatives who believed in his BS about Ivermectin. 🙄 You are an absolute trash human.

[@talkndrideas]

Name specifics that a president can do to lower the price of eggs. Look at the WSJ questionnaire to 39 economists to see who has the worse economic policies.

[@Buxtonphil]

Crazy that trump doesn’t think that national guard is part of the military lol

[@adamb.9968]

Hopefully her campaign knows better than I do, but I don't think this helps Harris. Better would be to have others voicing these attacks (Liz Cheney, et al) and Harris articulating concrete policies on economy and immigration in as concrete terms as possible. She's already perceived by many as having only "not Trump" going for her or at least to be over-relying on that in public remarks. If folks hadn't already excluded Trump on the basis of character I don't think Kelly's quotes, ghastly tho' they be, are going to do it.

[@njp1539]

It's not only about moving people that are the fence it's also about making sure that people dont stay home, that they go out and vote...

[@ej295]

John Kelly also cashed out on his military service to become a Senior Adviser to JP Morgan which partnered with BlackRock on a $15 billion fund to “rebuild” Ukraine.

[@onedroprule]

That doesn't mean anything he said about Trump is false. 🇺🇲

[@patcampisano2536]

Great seeing your faces!!

[@europa_bambaataa]

I think consumers of New York times content are generally pretty well educated, so I'm surprised how dumb this conversation is, with beating people over the head about fascism

[@11eqgt5n7eq]

They have other content, and seeing these comments, people need dumbed down content to begin to accept info outside their echo chamber.

[@flaviosouza5709]

They need to fire the studio designer ASAP.

[@howardscarr9518]

Especially the ridiculously massive microphone tree. And why the headphones?

[@melissak8419]

Yes, unfortunately many of us are in split families with loud and proud Trump supporters who will vote for them no matter what, either they are mostly male, or female and male Catholic Pro-life supporters. This is a good strategy. How any woman who hears Trump speak about women in the past or minorities, can vote for him is beyond me at this point and I register as Independent. My mom however who has always voted Republican that I knew of, refused to vote for Trump from the beginning. However, I have seen videos on youtube where Trump supporters are going for the demographics, for example the Amish or other Christian or religious groups that don't normally vote.

[@Bluequaz]

a lot of free thinkers at NYT

[@MrNyc81]

Acts of cowardice. When John Kelly was in uniform he wouldn't accept this. John Kelly is no Smedley Butler (Major General USMC).

[@richardmiller5229]

I just feel like this comes down to 100k votes in 8 states. My gut tells me they break for Trump for some unknown reason. Ugg! Keep up the good fight everyone. My daughters are too young to vote. I want them to still be able to vote when they turn 18!

[@kyle2441]

Trump 2024 🇺🇸!

[@michelebaffo5741]

The Cheney statement is still ringing in my kitchen. How are we doing carrying the torch of freedom 235 years after it was lit in the dark? Hiding from our kin to vote our mind, to stand by the constitution? Has freedom been here only to undo itself? I want to think forward, not back. Our children, wresting freedom from beloved leaders and their oligarchs in the future, what will they wish we had done and been capable of seeing clearly?

[@svenskdod]

I don’t think people around the world realize the ramifications of this election. Like, “why should I care?”, which boggles my mind.

[@parissinclair6513]

I kind of feel like people in other parts of the world understand how pivotal this election is more than many Americans do

[@svenskdod]

@@parissinclair6513in Sweden, that’s not the case.

[@jazzfan7491]

Headphones backwards

[@r8chlletters]

I don’t need John Kelly to tell me anything. Obviously ability and character matter and sadly our antiquated voting system allowed the worst to happen. We need serious voting reforms to move the needle way over where the vast majority of us are. Government must reflect the actual will of the people.

[@MrDiscowizard]

ok?

[@bordedup546]

Like what?

[@SeanFlaherty]

This story came out 2 years ago!

[@johnstallings4049]

It's recorded audio now and will be broadcast everywhere!

[@I-Libertine]

​@@johnstallings4049- a game changer!😂

[@Gukevipol]

If Nikki Hailey comes out and campaigns with trump wouldn’t that wipe out the Liz Cheney thing out.

[@junkkitty2009]

Trump is refusing her because he's not done shedding tears over her primary run and won't give her any chance at stage time even if it would help him.

[@andrewmueller23]

Why would Cheney's endorsement mean anything? She's a nobody and her dad was 1000% worse than Trump in actual damage done.

[@Existential8Ball]

Journalists WHO’S JOB IT IS TO BRING CLARITY AND PROTECT DEMOCRACY: “Wow, that was helpful! It gave the conversation texture and made a muddy definition clear.” Worse than useless. Glad we’ve raised the bar to the bare minimum two weeks before the election.

[@redthepost]

Nice work. Mmmmmmmm

[@den64100]

Why wasn't this story Front Page?

[@NPgirl56]

Great podcast, as usual! Thank you!

[@europa_bambaataa]

"new guy says Trump is a new special kind of (potential) danger as of 2 weeks ago" .. and we sat down with him, and we talked to him about sitting down before we sat down, ugh🙄🤦‍♂️

[@RecLeagueWarrior]

How does anyone vote for Trump??? If only the New York Times brought on someone who will proudly vote for Trump to explain their position instead of villainizing them

[@junkkitty2009]

There was a whole series of NYT podcasts which did go talk to Trump voters. I've heard a lot more from Trump voters than people voting for Harris, 3rd party, or not at all. Their views are well represented in the everyday speakers in those podcasts if not the professional talking heads.

[@Adjacent_2]

12:18, thank me later

[@StridentSloth]

Trump not understanding what was in it for the soldiers who died in Iraq and Afghanistan is really a positive thing a large number of liberals and leftists would agree with if Trump wasn't the one saying it.

[@europa_bambaataa]

I'm a shy pro-fascism, anti Trump guy. Or woman. Who should I vote for?

[@kahlilbt]

I vote you find professional help

[@terryarmstrong8598]

Traditional national security minded "I've always voted Republican" voters who are turned off by Trump's personality.

[@jaiseyjoseph9920]

BRING BACK POPCAST DELUXE PLEASE

[@brandonwiese4615]

John Kelly disqualifies his own words when he attempts to equate Trump to Hitler and spotlight Trump's obvious lack of moral character, but then won't endorse someone else or recommend voting for someone (anyone else) or at least not voting for Trump. In one breath it's an existential warning and in the next breath it's not worthy of putting weight or reputation behind what he just said, especially after waiting 4 years to finally say it. John: Do you really mean it, or not? Cowardice.

[@cedmonds525]

TDS podcast

[@-aussie-]

These confected moral indignations and supercilious judgements amount to precisely nought.

[@GOTHAM21]

A campaign contribution in kind.

[@king50ace2]

J

[@suds7103]

Trump! 🇺🇸

[@11eqgt5n7eq]

Nope. He doesn't represent America well, maybe Russia.

[@suds7103]

@@11eqgt5n7eq okay bot

[@peterfazio9306]

Trump for Prison 2025! 🇺🇲

[@jgyuri]

Is Reid related to Jeffrey ?

[@barbiesocialite]

Out of touch elitism. TRUMP 2024❤❤❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@no-barknoonan1335]

Who is out of touch? Working class vs born rich, who is actually a part of elite circles?

[@computeraidedworld1148]

Did you watch what *he* said, not even what the podcasters said. It’s literally insane.

[@emceeunderdogrising]

Trump is an elitist billionaire. He flew on Exstein's airplane.

[@11eqgt5n7eq]

You asking us to vote for the dementia billionaire? What the hell?

[@gzsprout]

​@@computeraidedworld1148commenter is probably a bo5.

[@josephmorgan7872]

Everyone should vote but this all a bunch of doom watching.

[@EarlyRiser71]

This show is ridiculous. What's the point of this show? Are we supposed to believe that Kelly knew this for 4 years, didn't bring it up in 2020, and NOW he decides to tell it?Bahahahahahahsa... only liberals would buy this.

[@11eqgt5n7eq]

He and other republicans have been saying this for years. Is that your party? This is what an echo chamber and delusion looks like. Please be careful with that, all the previous "top picks" know how dangerous and racist Trump is.

[@ommyotter4064]

Don't you think John Kelly would come out and say the NYT lied about what he said if indeed that was the case?

[@rmdbourg]

All of the nuances of politics and life are lost to people that lack the ability to critically think

[@spaniardsrk5108]

​@@ommyotter4064they probably paid him off. Kelly has a concern about civics , and fascism? Fascism is an ideology, trump may be a narcissist, but he is not an ideologue. This is a carefully crafted dnc psyops. If Kelly really had concerns he'd come out in 2020. the fact is Kamala is probably down 5-6 points in her internal pollings, and their desperately freaking out. Next week they'll say he's the antichrist, and he's a big fan of Alister Crawley. All with 0 evidence, just claims. Trump has had a camera in his face for 50 years. If he has dropped the n word, did anything truly nasty, it would already be out by now.

[@craven5328]

I imagine if he felt there was no chance of Trump winning, he could stay out of things. I don't imagine he enjoys the prospect of possibly being targeted by angry Trumo supporters (as we've seen happen before), and so he didn't say much untill he felt the ramifications of not doing to were terrible, and imminent. Also, it's not just Kelly, and it's not just now. Esper (former Trump Secretary of Defense) backed up Kelly's recent remarks and has said he has no reason to doubt Kelly’s “honesty or integrity” in relaying Trump’s previous comments. He encouraged the audience to look up the definition of fascism, as Kelly did, and ask whether Trump falls “into those categories.” and concluded "It's hard to say that he doesn't, when you kind of look at those terms. But, he certainly has those inclinations, and I think it's something we should be wary about.” General Milley (Tumps chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff) has said Trump is a “fascist to the core” and “the most dangerous person to this country.” Gen. Mattison (formed Sec of Def) has echoed these sentiments and as far back at 2020 wrote: "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people - does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us," And that Trump tried to: “destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens.” Gen. McMaster also recently wrote of the Jan 6 insurrection that Trump "abandoned his oath to ‘support and defend the Constitution,’ a president’s highest obligation." Edit: An additional note: Neither Mattis nor Kelly are registered members of any political party, nor is Mattis. Esper is I beleive a registered Republican.

[@Aviel266]

I voted for Trump, let's do it. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@mwm776]

Mark Kelly : Man those Trump comments were weird. How about I inject myself into the 2020 election, forget those comments for 4 years, and suddenly remember then 2 weeks before the election. Mark Kelly shot his bullet in 2020 he doesn’t get two. This has been the argument most of my family has made.

[@tomsparks6099]

I think a lot of people tried really hard to give Trump concessions, especially those who spent time in devotion to him in his administration. A man of his position had to be very careful about slandering a past president. I think him coming forward is a declassified warning in revealing what he's known and now the stakes are too high to remain silent. Judging on some assumptive motive is irrelevant at this juncture..

[@parissinclair6513]

*John Kelly! Mark Kelly is the Democratic senator from Arizona who used to be an astronaut.

[@tamic193]

Please understand who you’re talking about before responding. This is the problem with Trump voters, you say things but don’t know what you’re even saying.

[@marcodelacruz7727]

Los que apoyan a KEMALA MAMAMALA lost left Kamaradas cuba - Venezuela Trump ganará Saludos desde Perú 🇵🇪

[@EvelynCalatayud-p2n]

They are desperate

[@terencem9962]

Why do Democrat men always have to look like this? Between the four of them i fear they couldn't fend off a tough fourteen year old kid.

[@johnstallings4049]

Why would they have to? 💙😶💙

[@silvereaper1]

These guys are great over audio, but are significantly less credible on video.

[@samwalker5744]

Babahhahahahaha this is so ridiculous !!!! You are so out of touch - your podcast is so inauthentic hahahahah it’s like a mocumebtary / satire -

[@11eqgt5n7eq]

This is what an echo chamber and delusion looks like. Please be careful.

[@marcodelacruz7727]

Trump is WINNER

[@jonv1776]

Not in 2020. lol

[@hu_b]

The only ones who think trump is a winner are losers.

[@marcodelacruz7727]

Americanos red pill

[@Jimmy2toes4u]

Damn Trump 😂😂😂😂😂 he don’t realize that’s a legal impossibility. Boy does he talk out of his ass. But there is no reason to be scared. The dude isn’t all powerful. If he wins then meh. It’ll be fun.

[@onedroprule]

Trump doesn't have to be all powerful to do great harm; cause chaos; and hurt people.

[@kevins.2413]

Look at these bozos grasping at the straws

[@Stoddardian]

Fascism? I wish!

[@le_rayon_vert]

you sound like you’d be a lot of fun on car rides

[@Stoddardian]

@@le_rayon_vert Train rides. ;)

[@Olddog3985]

We undecided voters are not undecided. We have decided that both candidates are not worthy as Presidential candidates.

[@kahlilbt]

Honest question: is one option _less_ worthy? Is one option materially worse?

[@parissinclair6513]

For me, J.D. Vance is somewhat of a deciding factor, only because of Trump's age. He would be the oldest person ever elected president, and he's had years of poor diet and little exercise. J.D Vance was only elected to public office for the first time in 2022, and before that he was a failed venture capitalist who exploited and lied to workers in his own home state. He is so incredibly far from being fit to take over one of the most powerful offices in the world, and the chances of him becoming President Vance are high if Trump is elected.

[@craven5328]

I get that. I'm not American, but I feel the same way about my options in my country. But, and please don't take this the wrong way - being an adult sometimes means you have to make a choice you are not 100% aligned with, but is the best of your poor options. Voting is probably the single most important civic duty you acquire as an adult, and if you are waiting for a candidate to come along who fully aligns and targets all of your viewpoints - I think you'll be waiting and not exercising this singular duty and awful long time. Change is generally a gradually process...if one candidate is more likely to get you closer to your goal state, not voting won't get you closer. Also, if you don't vote - you are essentially letting others make the choices for you. Finally, if you don't vote, and feel that this will somehow "send a message", I think you are overestimating how loud that message will be, and underestimating the ramifications of your surrender to apathy, not just for yourself, but for your fellow citizens. I'm reminded of a quote attributed to Plato: "The price of apathy in public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ...and we've seen the havoc that evil men can create.

[@rossbaker9721]

As an Australian I’m terrified of another trump term. I can’t believe 50% of Americans are even considering the orange fascist.

[@EarlyRiser71]

As an Australian, nobody here cares what you think.

[@hu_b]

Propaganda works. Speaking of which how about you guys take back Rupert.

[@terencem9962]

What are you scared about? What happened during the four years he was in office that upset your life? Was it the lack of wars started around the world you disliked?

[@naomieyles210]

As an Australian, I find it very odd how much acting and entertainment background is a KEY benefit to a political career in the USA. A lucky break in reality TV doesn't give him any knowledge of how to run an economy, and his ignorance of how tariffs work is only the most obvious of many major concerns with his economic ideas. Taking control of the central bank is another clear economic error, obvious. The image created by his reality TV career is an illusion. The idea that anyone can bring back 2019 is an illusion.

[@EarlyRiser71]

@@naomieyles210 Hey prisoner colony guy... He's already been President and were we good. GTFOH!! You know nothing. Go put your mask on and STFU!!!

[@AlbertSpeerPhd]

Dirty, dirty smear merchants.