The Doping Scandal Rocking the Upcoming Olympics

[@GSXK4]

Putting China or Russia in charge of catching dopers is like putting the drug Cartels in charge of the DEA.

[@Storm4155]

Tell that to Victor Conte.

[@Storm4155]

@@techingDayAndNight You have to be an American. Comedy gold!

[@humanvoicemail5059]

Actually brother 🤓 🖐🏻 It’s like putting the DEA in charge of drug enforcement.

[@pibly7784]

China or Russia in charge =. 😳😳🤯🤯

[@starmontfortune353]

You do realize American athletes cheat too. American Federation used to know who was on drugs but would ignore it.

[@user-cv4nk4tr3b]

So they banned a single Russian child but not 20+ Chinese swimmers or the adults around that child...?

[@coll4455]

I didn’t ever hear anything about the Chinese but probably because it was the summer Olympics and the Russian Skater was competing at the winter games. Again I only ever heard about the Russian skater being banned. Russia technically hasn’t been allowed to compete under the Russian flag because of this happening in the past. I wasn’t aware of the Chinese so they covered it up pretty well as far as the media goes.

[@grahamstrouse1165]

No sympathy for the Russians. My guess is China’s holding economic pressure of some kind over the IOC. They build A LOT of shit that we all use. And it’s not just trinkets.

[@doragreen3887]

right! Needs to be the coaches, managers, etc too if they are found to have been involved. In the case of a child- they’re not dopeing on their own.

[@a55tech]

so u didn’t understand what u listened to like a typical simp

[@北京人在悉尼]

Whole US team should be banned

[@billydoyle6919]

As a former competitive swimmer (subjected to random testing even back in my day) this pisses me off. Its exactly like the East German/ USSR scandals in the 80s. 'Contaminated food' my arse.

[@xeaux]

Didn’t Russia claim contaminated food with that figure skater a year or two ago?? Or was it dishes? I just remember they tried to claim something similar not that long ago.

[@a55tech]

like that changes anything about ur failure to compete at the next level u didn’t listen to the details at all. hence what u say sounds like arse

[@naturalisedhker7953]

Chinese athletes were tested on average 21 times during this Olympics. As a former competitive swimmer, does this sound normal to you?

[@EmpoweredTransition]

How much money passed through hands from China to the Olympic committee to allow these Chinese swimmers to compete?

[@gogudelagaze1585]

2 million to WADA. That's all it took. edit: Look for an article in the Independent called "Chinese generosity in lead-up to cleared doping tests reflects its growing influence on WADA"

[@youytubey]

How much money passed through hands from US to the Olympic committee to allow these US swimmers to compete?

[@Yiannis-St]

Qatar gate on steroids. Pun intended

[@trn8061]

Enough it seems.

[@randomdude4505]

​@@youytubey The US government doesn't fund the USA Olympic team, so none.

[@robertsteinbach7325]

The sad fact is that the Olympic officials really don't care about doping unless it affects the money flow. This is so shocking but not suprising.

[@gustaaf1892]

Every successful Chinese swimming team has been associated with doping. How the Chinese were let off with their 23 positive tests is just astounding. As has been the case in the past it was also allowed to happen without being publicised, as is the Chinese way.

[@moiraatkinson]

Even if accidental, the Chinese and the Russian skater (who had this drug and 2 other not currently banned heart medications in her system) were still being given an unfair advantage and shouldn’t be allowed to compete. Their country can decide not to punish them, but they must be disqualified from the upcoming Olympics, just as if they were injured. They should then be regularly tested until free from the drug for a specified length of time.

[@christinethorp3684]

The "Russian skater" is Kamila Valieva, and she has been banned from the sport for three years; she can't even practice. Her suspension goes through December 2025, so she won't be able to qualify for the 2026 Olympics. Her career is over, although she is a martyr in Russia and very popular and wealthy.

[@moiraatkinson]

@@christinethorp3684she was banned for 4 years actually, but as the entire country was banned for 2 years due to the invasion of Ukraine, it’s not much of a punishment. True her career is over. There are too many ignorant fans in her country who seem to believe this is a plot against her by western countries and because she has thin arms, she can’t have taken drugs. I saw one horribly racist post comparing her arms to Simone Biles’ with the caption “who’s actually been doping here?”

[@coll4455]

@@christinethorp3684right but the Russian have been doing this across all sports and still aren’t technically banned from competing just competing under the flag and it was still happening! The only difference with this Olympics is that the Russian have boycotted going

[@CuddlyPuddles]

She can practice. She's actually skating in a show right now. What she can't do is use training facilities or skate in shows that are funded by the government.

[@cbmtrx]

Ok new rule: if any banned substance is found in your system, you don't get to compete. No excuses, no special circumstances, no exceptions.

[@Datamining101]

This is already pretty much the rule. Getting an exception is almost unheard of. If this wasn't half the Chinese team prior to the Chinese olympics they would have been suspended. Unfortunately the Olympics are too big to fail and the wide world of sport is incredibly corrupt.

[@JonathanWong0217]

@@Datamining101 You are typical one of those brainless China haters!! So many of you here. Do you know the Chinese swimmers, especially those top ones received on average 40 doping tests in 2023, according to WADA, this is 3 times as much in comparison to those in US. None of these tests was possitive. Are you gonna to tell me now that WADA is the umbrella of China? use your brain to think chap

[@michaelb823]

Unfortunately false positives do happen, not commonly but you have to have some sort of system in place for potential errors

[@petergilkes7082]

​@@Datamining101You can get one from USADA if you promise to rat out 2 other doors. Not sure how they chose which one to give a pass to, but probably one that earns lots of medals.

[@aliciacline08]

You realize if thats the case, both phelps and biles would be banned and theyve been delightful to watch. They made the olympics. The US has over 300 athletes approved for banned substances under WADA's therapeutic use exemption. So...try again.

[@mikelliteras397]

Did the other 16 swimmers not eat? What a load of crap

[@R53Hole]

These Olympics are going to be DOPE!

[@mixit247]

Scoring will be sky high!

[@markdonovan1540]

Especially in France, they are the masters of letting doping slide, just look at the UCI and the history of the Tour de France.

[@moosiethestaggie5100]

Anyone thinking this is limited to Swimming or China is seriously deluded.

[@1972dsrai]

Exactly. Just look at how TUE’s are abused. Are we really to believe there are top athletes suffering from asthma and heart conditions?

[@willemvanriet7160]

This should cast complete doubt onto ANY Chinese medal winners. They see medals as part of their national security/reputation and will do anything to win...

[@littleblackpistol]

China put underage female gymnasts in the Olympics, because their childlike frames make doing various skills way easier. They faked passports, all sorts of shit. After the cold war ended, China benefited from a bunch of former East German coaches/scientists who set about doping the Chinese athletes. Rrsult, the hulking, acne-covered Chinese female swimmers in 1994. Hulked with muscle and with unmissable signs of androgen abuse on their skin - male hormones make female skin oilier and more prone to acne.

[@ndomingo2906]

Let me tell you something that the world should’ve realized a long time ago, the honor system flat out does not work among the Chinese!

[@Dennis_510]

Right, there have never been any US dopers

[@caseysmith544]

@@Dennis_510 No more like there has never been a national doping or cheating scandal in USA like China is doing since China decided to become good at all sports.

[@zumaanandrade3961]

​@caseysmith544 That's because they don't publicize it, but it's rampant.

[@Datamining101]

@@Dennis_510 I'm sure lots of US athletes dope, but it's not systematic and government sponsored doping and if they get caught they get suspended.

[@ksc743]

Or the Russians.

[@Yiannis-St]

Reminds me our two Greek sprinters (coached by the same trainer) who staged an alleged motorcycle accident to avoid drug testing by WADA right before the games. For those of us who cared about the games, it stained what could have been the greatest games of all times.

[@nickwells1588]

Athens 2004 is referred to a 'toilet' Olympics by nearly everyone

[@kevinkk8113]

All US Asthma athlete should not allow to compete. This is harmful to their health.

[@jbirsner]

Check out the Oscar-winning documentary "Icarus" if you want to see a great overview of the Russian doping scam at Sochi.

[@coll4455]

ITS INSANE like literally rocked my world and it want on in London as well

[@ksc743]

Yes I've watched it. It's brilliant. And jaw-dropping.

[@GGTanguera]

Everybody is using something. Americans are using stuff that’s new and still not on the list. Nadal was using drugs allowed in tennis, but not in other sports. There was a study done among elite athletes asking them if they would dope to win and then die after that ; or stay clean. Most chose the former.

[@cedricsteele7350]

The problem with hearing the USA complain about dodgy testing of athletes and cover-ups of positive results in other counties, is that it's an open secret that they have been brushing their own positive doping results under the carpet for years.

[@lshaps46]

That'¨s nonsense

[@kristenlee337]

After watching the Lance Armstrong doc on Netflix, I'm convinced almost all top olympic athletes dope. I feel like I don't have a single good reason to believe otherwise.

[@youytubey]

Yeah it's every country, pointing fingers at china is just giving into political propaganda that's beyond the Olympics

[@Ineddiblehulk]

Their job is to win. Their livelihood is dependent on winning. Their national sporting agency is dependent on its athletes winning. And their sport is dependent on being more popular than other sports. The whole system is incentivised to dope and to hide the doping. Testing is nothing but a pantomime. All professional athletes are doping.

[@willnestor6422]

You can bet your ass anybody close to medal contention in the olympics is doping. Accept it and just enjoy the sport. Some get caught and banned and others get away with it, that's the real tragedy.

[@meghanmacqueen5157]

Agreed. Sometimes I wonder if they should just let everyone dope; that way it might be more fair (of course, it wouldn't be healthy for the athletes, and not good role modelling, but the Lance Armstrong thing shook my faith in doping tests also).

[@olliebrown89]

I'm hoping the Enhanced Games does actually go ahead next year. What would be interesting is if the athletes can't beat the 'clean' athletes times from the Paris Olympics.

[@steveeuphrates-river7342]

The Chinese and Russians doping??! No way!!

[@lukilladog]

Everybody... they are playing dumb and inocent for the propaganda.

[@disco1974ever]

USA is by FAR the worst Doping country on Earth. Most convictions but worse than that the most failed tests but because USA controls WADA, US athletes get "medical exceptions" more oftern than any other nation.

[@robinanddaviddavies8317]

Say it ain't so!!

[@GlobalPenguin2012]

You must have been sleeping all these years?

[@EricS-uf9mv]

You forgot Kenya and SPAIN. Hell, Spain's own 'sports doping policing agency' actively helped MULTIPLE Spanish athletes caught doping to skirt enforcement by INTENTIONALLY CREATING "technical paperwork loopholes" for their caught athletes... things like conveniently losing paperwork filings, things like conveniently "forgetting" to issue timely athlete enforcement notifications, things like waiting until the the 364th day of a 365-day notification cutoff window before PHYSICALLY SNAIL-MAILING out the notification... which obviously the athlete won't receive in time... thereby giving the athlete a technical "out" to avoid sanctions. When the "cops" are literally facilitating doping, then doping in that country is 'systemic'... This applies to Russia, China, SPAIN, and KENYA.

[@walhdamaskus2408]

A purple face team's medias is talking about doping. 😂😂😂

[@ladystarlightnyc]

Great interview! I continue to be surprised that the coverage of this event doesn’t mention the Kamila Valieva case involving the exact same drug from the Beijing Winter Olympics… much can be learned from it.

[@colleenmonfross4283]

Jesus Christ! Can human beings just simply do the right thing, ever??? Can't trust ANYTHING anymore.

[@Ineddiblehulk]

… are you new to earth?

[@terryarmstrong8598]

Doping in sports is always there.

[@tyrael0825]

this aged really well

[@markbateman9222]

In some countires doping is organised by the governing body in that particular sport - ie state sponsored. In other states doping is more of an individual thing - or at least is organised by the coach of that particular group of athletes. China falls into the first category, Kenyan distance runners fall into the second. If you believe that nobody dopes in, for example, the USA, the UK or other European countries you are being very, very naive

[@dweller6065]

Not good enough WADA. They cannot say they upheld the highest standards in this case. At a bare minimum, WADA officials should have been camped in China in the first half of 2024 testing and testing and testing. Just as an aside - the quality of Olympic competition in the pool would not be diminished if doping swimmers were banned - I mean they are not very good. The sponsors would be worried though - I suppose WADA was looking out for their interests.

[@Phat-rj3jo]

Meanwhile USADA accepted Erriyon Knighton’s “food contamination” excuse and allowed him to compete in the trials, double standard?

[@dweller6065]

@Phat-rj3jo Globally there are lots of cases involving individuals and charges of doping need to be decided in each case. I am not familiar with the individual you cite, if you have a case, then go to the trouble and spell it out.Because the details matter. In the china case, we are looking at almost 2 thirds of the swim team affected, with the drug in question being designed in a lab to enhance performance and be undetectable after a short while. TMZ is not found in nature or in industry. And - sorry to say - we are talking about Chinese system with it's long history of drug abuse, at a level of being state sponsored.

[@Phat-rj3jo]

@@dweller6065 😂😂😂 like US with its illustrious doping history in track and field China has its share of issues, but people just love to point fingers at others.

[@dweller6065]

@@Phat-rj3jo Yeah and those US athletes found to be dopers were publicly outed and shamed. As they should. Some like Marion Jones went to jail. Now let's look at the Chinese dopers, what happened to them?

[@Astro2024]

​@dweller6065 you're slow on the uptake I see. Double standards exist

[@mayamae55]

TMZ was the exact same drug that found in Kamila Valieva’s system prior to Beijing Olympics.

[@mayamae55]

Which Russia explained that the drug was contaminated in grandpa’s cup which Kamila shared, but no evidence was presented that grandpa was suffering heart disease nor any prescription of the drug for him

[@coconutgelato7459]

Kamila also had dozens of suspicious (including 2 other banned substances in barely detectable/probable error readings) compounds in her system. This would indicate clearer intention in doping than the Chinese swimmers. They only had one banned or notable substance flagged, and the detected amounts across all the athletes was consistent with a low level contamination. Russia is also the only country under active restrictions by the IOC because of a prior state sanctioned doping program, so they had to take action against a Russian athlete’s violation of doping regulations. The IOC might put China under similar restrictions after this Olympics.

[@walhdamaskus2408]

Never let american medias telling u about doping, they will insult u by doping on front of ur face. 😂😂

[@latebloomerabroad]

No matter what they do, the Chinese and Russians will be allowed to swim. It's decided by each sport how they deal with doping, so the fact that swimming continues to allow countries who systematically cheat to compete means that members of FINA/World Aquatics are being bribed to allow the cheating to continue. Only athletes from clean countries who are caught get punished.

[@joelwillems4081]

Russian swimmers have competed in the Olympics in a long time. Same for gymnastics. A dozen Chinese swimmers used illegal drugs in 2020 and 2021. This was only released in April of this year with a very lame excuse from China. With that many, it wasn't their excuse of contaminated food, but obviously was an organized scheme like Russia runs.

[@azhupeo]

So basically any country can call all their Athletes, keep them in the same hotel, feed them the same food with banned prescription drug, throw some of the drug in the drainage, sink, kitchen and Voala.. Problem solved !! Athlete were contaminated by the hotel chefs

[@petergilkes7082]

Try "voila"

[@Hipposter]

The biggest fallacy that we believe in the Olympics is that prizes are won on merit. Settting doping aside, wealthy countries that can afford things like world-class facilities, medical care, coaches, tech suits, and the ability to train day in and day out without worrying about having to put food on the table, will always do better than those with lesser funding. One can even go further into the discriminatory rules and regulations that have historically kept certain ethnicities from the water and provided little resources to them. Let's be honest although athletes can have considerable achievements, these are not all based solely on merit.

[@bryanttisdale2446]

The more they cheat the more money is poured in to complete in.....Games. you easily can argue best solution. No more help from government programs. Any athlete that gets ant help is out no matter what. Stop spending millions on games instead of people who need the money and resources for survival in every day life.

[@darringrey4329]

Not true at all NZ has many Olympic gold medalist who came from small towns very little out side assistance , Danyon loader 2golds in swimming

[@bogdanpopescu1401]

you have a twisted utopian egalitarian view of what merit means; besides, wealthy countries are getting less and less wealthy, and most people in most countries today, not just the wealthy ones, don't have to worry about having to put food on the table; last but not least, poverty is a hell of an incentive to work hard to succeed

[@bogdanpopescu1401]

@@bryanttisdale2446 not against helping people in need, but the governments are spending large amounts of money for that already, and it's not working very well, for reasons not hard to understand; much more effective measures instead of spending even more money this way would be to: stop the insane net zero agenda, make people responsible for the lockdowns accountable, end the forever wars, cut government spending and stop printing money to cover the deficits, and so on; just saying, of course...

[@bryanttisdale2446]

@bogdanpopescu1401 Nothing utopian about the view. There was a time before steroids. Clean sports, the more cheating some countries do the more the spend on it unfortunately. Instead of letting athletes naturally winning and losing on There own Merritts. Some seem to not accept There countries aren't as good naturally at some sports.

[@davidleonard37]

What's surprising is that only 23 tested positive for this drug, what are the rest of them taking that hasn't been mentioned.

[@xeaux]

There was a good interview on Insider I just watched with Victor Conte who basically was behind the designer steroids that Barry Bonds & a lot of other athletes were using. But he basically says that there was a steroid that they were not testing for because they didn’t know about it, and then they also weren’t testing for growth hormone at that time so so between those two he was able to come up with an effective doping regiment for the athletes. So there’s going to be things don’t test for yet bc there’s new compounds being created.

[@petergilkes7082]

So the divers did great dives because they were drugged up?

[@davidleonard37]

@@petergilkes7082 so you think no divers dope?

[@petergilkes7082]

@@davidleonard37 If you are talking about the Chinese, they have been tested to the limit. You THINK they have, I don't know, so I don't say. Turn your eyes to the US, they probably know!

[@javierrivera6406]

Assuming that Phelps was clean in his career is hilarious. At the level that he was competing, everybody was using something. This problem is not only in swimming. This is the majority of Olympics sports especially if they are professionals outside of the Olympics games. The same story is with Chinese, Russian, British,Australians. Any major country is going to invest heavily in their Olympics athletes because if one's of those athletes win. You create national pride for your country. One of the best way to make the citizen of any country feel proud of their achievements and create nationalism.

[@TheJhtlag]

So you don't accept his testimony mentioned at the start of the vlog? Did you even listen? What's hilarious is you do nothing to contradict that.

[@javierrivera6406]

@TheJhtlag is ok. You don't have to believe me

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

I've been an athlete and a sports fan my whole life but I wouldn't shed a tear if the Olympics died. The Olympic ideals died a long time ago. With so much money and political prestige on the line, it's not likely to ever be cleaned up.

[@ksc743]

There is talk about an "Enhanced Games" in 2025 where all the athletes take whatever drugs they like and compete. That's going down a slippery slope imo.

[@briangertz6386]

We keep forgetting how the US in track and field got away with doping during the Carl Lewis years - using human growth hormone. Look at all the American athletes during the late 80’ and early 90’s that were all of a sudden wearing braces - but we of course, turn a blind eye to that. Lewis finally popped hot - but didn’t suffer any significant punishment

[@GSXK4]

Nobody comes close to Soviet/ Russian and Chinese dopers. They are in another universe!

[@buffalosoldier7360]

All of the eastern bloc countries up until around 2000 were heavy systemic dopers, Bulgarian weight lifters, Russian wrestlers, East German sprinters, etc., etc., etc…now they are testing positive so they are bribing, lying , cheating and stealing…

[@youytubey]

​@@GSXK4so Lance Armstrong doesn't exist then

[@kevinlakeman5043]

@@youytubey One person compared to decades worth of athletes? Yeah, pretty much.

[@kevinlakeman5043]

Wtf does that have to do w/ this Olympics? And how do you know what people do or do not 'keep forgetting', Nostradumass? And you named ONE athlete, not the track & field team in general, troll boy.

[@wunwong9251]

This aged super badly considering the number of US athletes who are supposedly asthmatic and the purple faces during the swims. This is such an obvious hit piece in bad faith.

[@laughjunkie3290]

You need to be objective here. Leave your nationality out of it. Historically, Chinese people are not good at swimming, they never have been. It’s clear your Chinese government created a doping system so Chinese swimmers can compete internationally. It is working. But we all see it! You have done the same in gymnastics, weigh lifting…China cheats. All communist countries do.

[@JonathanWong0217]

The US women were "shockingly" good during the trials, they kept breaking the world records, they are like super wonder women from outer space. We wonder if they know anything we don't know of?? This unavoidable raised a lot of suspicions to others, after all they receive the least drug tests according to the WADA. WADA should carry out more tests on them like they do to the Chinese swimmers, and I suggest they should keep their blood samples for at least 10 years for the future test use when the testing method is more adance. Some swimmers had doubt how could Michael Phelps recovered so quickily and grabbed gold in almost every events he participated, is he a 'superhuman'? As for K. Ledecky, some swimmer said 'swimming with her is like swimming with a man'. I hope no one is cheating!! God blesses you all.

[@laughjunkie3290]

According to Michael Phelps testimony in congress, America is the most tested. I rather believe Phelps than you, who salty because you are Chinese. Be honest, historically Chinese people have never been good at swimming internationally. Never. Out of no where, the Chinese are breaking world records. Yeah right. Questions should be why communist countries love to cheat? Russia, East Germany and now China 🇨🇳

[@valkeryie5650]

Back in the summer before 2010 Olympics in Vancouver, i watched the chinese speed skaters inject into their thighs. Everyday. No, they dont cheat. Give me a break.

[@buffalosoldier7360]

Even if these athletes were contaminated by others, it doesn’t change the fact that they had the substance in their system and benefited from it! The world record should be set aside.

[@dczhen4358]

WADA's expose on usada -- now who's the cheater

[@YDdraigGoch43]

This video needs playing at double speed. These people sound like it's THEM doped up 😂

[@CosmosKramer]

Seriously! I quit listening to NYT podcasts when they released an iPhone app and made it clear none was coming for Android (WTH?), and it seems like in that time they strayed all the way from "measured & deliberate" territory right into the realm of "stoned and convinced every mispronunciation means they lose a fknger." 🙄

[@ksc743]

I'm playing it double the speed😅

[@jakemf1]

Focus is difficult but a worthwhile effort in life

[@franzmovi]

How about Chinese divers? Someone needs to find out how they absorb the water instead of splashing it...

[@coll4455]

Especially the young girl that came out of no where last Olympics and won the high dive I believe. She had been training in secret it was her first major event and she destroyed every record and out scored everyone by like an insane amount. She looked like a slave child

[@TheJhtlag]

They all do... Kenyan runners have lots of articles about them recently, really think Kipchoge is clean?

[@1972dsrai]

Does anyone really believe US athletes aren’t abusing TUE’s to get around regulations? I’d be amazed if most actually suffer from the conditions they’re taking the drugs for.

[@theaudjob3267]

Countries keep proving they cannot self police. At this point WADA needs to crack down and send people to test athletes at random times. If countries refuse to comply then they cannot compete.

[@highlanderthegreat]

its a coin toss as to which swimmers are on drugs and not on drugs

[@Ineddiblehulk]

Only if it’s a double headed coin - they’re all on something

[@wiadroman]

A doping scandal in the olympic sport? Now, that's a shocker!

[@joseseptien]

I still can't believe people think of all natural or no doped athletes. $$$$ is the game, not just for athletes but for all brands that sponsor games, sport and 😊 federations. We the fans want the faster, the recor braking, the one that is a superhuman, we put our $$$ into it, indirectly or directly we pay for athletes to use better drugs so we can see the record braking, the fastest. We want the clothes that that athletes uses, we want the brand... no record braking, we lost interest, we do not buy the brand, we not watch or buy the ticket to witness the record breaker.... money get lost, athletes disappear, games gone. Yes we are guilty of doping, from fans, companies, tv, federation, antidopin control, we all play into the game...

[@TheJhtlag]

The only athlete you can trust is you strapping on some shoes and going out for a run. And likewise be proud of that, the only value to sports is YOU getting some exercise. To some extent ribbons and awards etc. is nice if it pushes you harder but even those have diminishing value, wlll OK, you get the girl great. But I agree wit you here, even before the doping having machines test your VOmax and your stride and special facilities is terrible returns on the money.

[@tchai91]

I think that most people in top flight sport kind of accept that swimming is a weird sport that exists in isolation where pretty much everybody knows that iffy stuff goes on (much like cycling) but it seems to be weirdly accepted in the pursuit of millions of medals, which is far more talked about than the actual events themselves (which are dull as ditchwater). In addition, nobody cares what time they wake up to train. Nobody’s making you do that.

[@Freedom_and_Democracy]

What are the names of the eleven that will compete at the Olympics?

[@ginanoble7203]

It’s all the honest athletes I feel sad for.The lead up to these olympics ,worlds and USA trials tell me there are definitely some sketchy athletes to watch. I quest we just wait and see

[@OGGuy-xb1yk]

Why was there no mention of Kamila Valieva and how she got to compete?

[@coll4455]

That was the Winter Olympics and she tested positive during that Olympics. She was allowed to compete because she was a minor how ever if she won they weren’t going to have a medal ceremony. The poor thing fell apart it was disgusting. It was a mess and was banned after. How ever I have never heard anything about this happening at the summer Olympics in 2021 and I’m guessing it’s because they didn’t fail the test during the games I’m not sure! I’m not sure but they covered it up really well. Wada messed up for sure

[@estelja]

Tainted kitchen is even better than the tainted beef excuse. Good job, China!

[@annmariebusu9924]

I remember the American athlete recently on tainted meat 😮.

[@remodesu]

Once sponsorship was allowed at 84 olympics the box was opened

[@ShunyamNiketana]

Any precipitous drop in a running or swimming record is suspicious, and it has become commonplace.

[@walhdamaskus2408]

American athleets were cautch on doing drug and doping 4x more the chinese. According to wada and reuters. 😂😂😂

[@MBTIology]

Kinda crazy since this happened in 2020 and again in 2022 winter Olympics with the chinese.

[@toofrequenttraveller7707]

I’m disappointed this video hasn’t been watched by a larger number of people.

[@derrekjones2129]

I am a huge fan of the Olympics, but I believe in it less. I don’t trust what I see in track and field either. It’s tainting the game. I don’t care who wins as long as it is competed cleanly and on the same level. Many performances just look unnatural. That makes the games and sports a joke…a caricature.

[@TheJhtlag]

Yep, I have more faith in my local sports men's league. You never know, maybe that's not clean but I think it is more likely that people play for the competition and the purity of the sport. After that it's a moral entanglement.

[@Tanagra180]

I hate to throw around accusations, but my daughter trained beside the Chinese (and Japanese) rowing teams. It was absolutely incredible- it was sometimes impossible to differentiate the women from the men (because the women had *such* modified morphologies, resembling men). Not so for the Japanese team. BTW- It's not a matter of foreign morphology- my family is ethnically Asian. It was a really negative feeling watching them train...

[@Edo9River]

I can’t deal with this, because this story is also part of a greater context of every other aspect of our world is falling apart. Trust and true sportsmanship is a granny’s tale to children about what we used to believe. Not only that we all chained together by the necks. All of us, the Russian , the Chinese, the n. Koreans, the Iranians, the Somali, and so on…😢😢

[@suzettehenderson9278]

Shades of the jokes we used to make about East German women's sports teams back in the '80s.

[@sargecomstat4755]

These days, I'd wonder if maybe they WERE men. If the name of the game is "win at all costs," why not sink to this level to gain an advantage?

[@kimberlyarlene4094]

Another reason why trans women must not compete with the other women. Some countries will just start feeding male athletes female hormones to get them under the level. It's not about the self esteem of Western Trans women.

[@willemvanriet7160]

Putting China or Russia in charge of catching dopers is like putting the American Heart Association in charge of people's health...

[@FigureNastics]

TMZ and Xenon gas is allegedly what the Russians gave/give their figure skaters. 😢 EDIT: A now retired figure skater, had a false positive test result and they found out it got into her system bc of the eye lash glue she was using to apply her fake lashes for performance! Freakin crazy!

[@TheJhtlag]

Uh oh, the WNBA is in trouble!

[@salhj112]

Saw a documentary about how track athletes used new substances that weren't on the doping agency's radar yet. I find it hard to believe that things have gotten worse. It's probably as bad as it always was.

[@Doktracy]

China breaks the 100M free record by almost a second in a “slow” pool at the Olympics. Crazy!

[@aeromtb2468]

MLB, NFL, Tour de Fr, etc… testing doesnt stop it.

[@Ineddiblehulk]

It’s not supposed to. It’s performative because the public need to believe athletes are all clean. It’s the audience’s fault for believing in clean athletes is like believing in Santa Claus.

[@movielife8537]

Given its track record, you guys still believe in anything NYT said?

[@Sasstherapy]

This is the wrong question. We know we can trust some countries like the USA because we do punish our athletes. Sha’Carri wasn’t allowed to compete in the previous Olympics because of weed in her system. They called Serena Williams in for testing all the time because they thought she looked manly. The question is why not specifically punish China who test positive EVERY year. They should be publically embarrassed and their WRs shouldn’t stand. Maybe they’ll finally have their athletes train under the same rules the next Olympics if there are reasonable consequences for this level of scandal.

[@FlorianaLions]

Yup they called Serena in....and found nothing....what a surprise.

[@Chakirisan]

In other news, they found EPO in my Captain Crunch, I was wondering why I was cutting the grass twice as fast. #Chinabullshit

[@JeffreyWallk]

Money is all that matters. I only follow the individuals competing NOT the corrupt institutions profiting at their expense.

[@scotto7924]

I had it with the Olympics when they allowed in curling as a sport.

[@ksc743]

I agree🤣🤣

[@joyousjamaican]

I recall Bolt having the same issue with testing during his career. WADA was all over Jamaica. I don't know how we would have responded if this was happening in Track & Field but I know we would have been very upset as a nation overall, not just the athletes.

[@MickeRudolfsson]

Would you be equally concerned if it was American athletes who were caught doping? Like how shielded Lance Armstrong was for example

[@mithulahiri4105]

And that's why those of us who support clean sport in this country and everywhere else, we were so hurt and angry; I felt deceived. I defended him for a long time given his recovery from cancer, but couldn't ignore it when the entire truth came out. I'm a runner and our sport has been tainted by athletes who don't question their coaches or flat out dope and then deny the allegations. I am glad that athletes like the Gouchers, Meb Keflezighi, Des Linden and Deena Kastor (also Paula Radliffe, but she's British), etc. have spoken out against doping and FOR clean sport and they have gone to great lengths to assist WADA and USADA in their own testing histories. So, yes, anyone from any country who cares about the sport would be equally concerned about their countryman/woman being caught doping. There are many cyclists and runners from the U.S. who have failed drug tests and have been called out and suspended for X number of years.

[@MickeRudolfsson]

@@mithulahiri4105 I am in agreement with you there. I grew up during his doping prime. I am Swedish 🇸🇪, the country who more or less created WADA and we had a formidable professor in Arne Ljungqvist who was on the board from the foundation of it until 2013. Marion Jones and our Swedish Ludmila Engquist are among those who were caught during that time.

[@Freedom_and_Democracy]

WADA you talking about, TMZ is not MSG. Ridiculous.

[@user-whong]

Only sound, no video, and no related reports, so how do you have strong evidence to tell us that what you said is right?

[@jabrueben884]

So it’s ok to use tmz now?

[@Edo9River]

What do you mean, “ Let it go for what it is”?

[@andrewdutton1003]

Fans would have more respect if the chinese athletes were banned. Now it has set a precident, and all chinese athletes will be suspected of cheating now if the win!!!

[@petrolene_performancecoach]

WADA needs to reevaluate their entire process. Look at the mess that happened in South Africa with the CrossFit athletes.

[@gymnasmic7425]

Can't wait to see what kind of new drugs we see with the Paris games!

[@joseflemire4284]

China doping? LMAO...of course! How Real was the 16 y/o boy on the relay team in the last W. C. close a 2.5s lead on the Grown Men on the USA team and win ?!! This is not like a sport that does not require muscular power in large amounts at higher speeds...this is a sport that has huge strength demands.....even Phelps at 16 could not have pulled off this feet of the Chinese boy. They are just throwing into our faces.

[@jaybee946]

China is doping for sure. But as for the age, it's not at all uncommon for swimmers to already reach their peak as teenagers. Don't know why for swimming, but it happens. When Phelps was 16 he set the world record in the 200m butterfly and won the world championships.

[@jaybee946]

You seem to be referring to Zhang Zhanshuo. He closed with a 1:45.80 in the 200m relay. That's not that fast of a split. American Carson Foster split 1:43.9 in the same relay. All the Americans swam faster than Zhang except for the anchor leg David Johnston who had a terrible split of 1:47.2. He had by far the slowest split on his team or any anchor leg in the top 4. Zhang is just a general top 20-30 swimmer in the 200m free. The team is doping for sure, but a 16 year old swimming that time is not unusual. And Phelps at 16 was easily far more impressive. He was already a world record holder. In fact we have Phelps' 200m freestyle time at 16, and it was 1:46.4. In a relay with a flying start that's around 0.7 sec faster, or 1:45.7. That's also with worse swim gear, less advanced stroke technique and not in his primary event. So yeah, Phelps at 16 could have done this, if not faster.

[@toyarj37]

I want to know if the swimmers speaking were tested in the off season and during training and if they ever missed any tests. Bc that’s the real issue. They take drugs during training

[@andrewlarasen9615]

Any other country with this 'suspect' sittuation, would ban their athletes. How is China able to get away with this? Only one answer possible: MONEY!

[@willemvanriet7160]

Good point. Other countries like russia and china have state sponsored drug programs...

[@bipmix]

Follow the money, the IOC leadership retains their jobs by giving IOC money to marginal countries in exchange for the votes to stay in power. I China’s case, they have been paying off the the officials since the 90s

[@youytubey]

US have been paying them off since the 80s

[@sharinaross1865]

Congrats to 1st time Olympic medalist.

[@doragreen3887]

Tennis and track are really bad too. Tennis has had some huge stars test positive and let off or given a slap on the wrist. Like sharapova, halep, hadid Maia

[@rayF4rio]

I fail to see the point of the Olympic games anymore. I stopped watching 20 years ago. In the age of mass migration and ever increasing globalization, what is the point of nation states competing against each other in pointless games. I actually feel sorry for Olympic athletes who give their entire youth towards an objective with such a tiny chance of success (Gold, Silver or Bronze) and almost zero ability to transfer those skills to their life after sport.

[@mangos2888]

The Olympics are all about pushing the boundaries of the human mind & body. The skills gained to train at this level are incredibly transferable and the vast majority age-out of elite training while they're still young.

[@willemvanriet7160]

Dopers ALWAYS come up with cockamamie stories like this kitchen one... absolute BS

[@debrascott8775]

I'd love to see the details about how each country handles whereabouts and drug testing. For example, Kenyan runners, where many many are being found out.

[@caseysmith544]

World Athletics who is now in charge of the track and field at a global level, they have a much stronger stance on cheating then some other sports.

[@dragonbreath8769]

Wow, incredibly lucky swimmers all ate at a restaurant using prescription drugs in their suffles

[@hugopiteira405]

Listen at 2x speed or fall asleep

[@Itriedtobe-wq9lj]

The first doper that I know about was Eric Wishart who was an American race horse trainer who moved to Britain. This was in the 1900s.

[@Edo9River]

No one wants to answer, so many kettles are painted with the pigments. So we are bound togeth😊to protect each others interests from embarrassment, not justice, embarrassment.

[@jobsmine]

23 of thechinese swimming athletes got tested positive for TMZ (banned drug). It's the 80s-90s all over again, except it's the Chinese athletes, instead of the (not banned enough!) Russian athletes.

[@Suburp212]

Simply ban sll Chinese competitors .

[@gregstephens4896]

The US has never had dopers in the Olympics????? I’m for a fair playing field but this is the pot calling the kettle too jacked up

[@topgundoc01]

I am a competitive masters athlete in track and field. I wouldn't want a drug to help me train harder. I already feel that I train too hard which results in more injuries than I would like. I would much rather have a drug to prevent injuries 🙂 Or perhaps I should train less and have a bit more recovery !

[@annmariebusu9924]

Some of the testing procedures seem way tòo invasive. For young athletes i would be concerned about needing to see the pee come out. It would be better to go in with minimal clothes in a stall and an empty container. Some athletes are over tested while some not tested. Doping also occurs because the rules are too firm. Some items to aid in body repair should be allowed.

[@jryanc10]

Well, it looks like somebody was paid off here.

[@Cubo0707]

Why sounds like a set up…

[@r.g.carter3908]

clearly the chinese could never swom or medal without doping, and no american would ever cheat! the audacity!

[@JRyan-dz4fd]

It all comes to consistency ... but increasingly it seems global politics in corporate environments creates a bias that puts integrity in that consistency in serious question.