James Shaw: Wealth taxes, free dental, and coalition options with National | Q+A 2023

[@clairebeaumont5290]

You treat James Shaw with kid gloves Jack Tame...why didn't you ask him to explain how he managed to get zn MSc from Bath University without first earning an undergraduate degree? He is very devious about this yet you don't bother to mention it?

[@mjf773]

Thanks for pushing him on the National-Green relationship. It's a great frustration of mine as an occaisonal Green voter that they refuse to play the game and do what it takes to win. I don't vote Green to have more Greens+Labour, I do it to get Green policies done. Work with whoever gets the job done! Take off the requirement of being shackled to Labour rain or shine.

[@HenrythePaleoGuy]

And you're more likely to get said green policies through with Labour. Don't you realise the Nats are more opposed to passing things the Greens would want than they would with Labour? No one whatsoever suggests the same thing with ACT, and it's because they'd both have a poor working relationship and leverage. National wants to cut DOC funding by 6.5% to fund their tax cuts!

[@diyguru9677]

Seriously? Would a firefighter team up with an arsonist? The main difference between National and Labour is Labour supports Greens policies albeit a little less enthusiastically than the Greens whereas National are reversing all of Green/Lab carbon emission reduction and climate change mitigation policies, using the ETS funds to fund tax cuts rather than any action on carbon emissions and, the icing on the cake, resume offshore oil and gas drilling. Greens and National would be a coalition of hell. Read the room, it ain't going to happen.

[@_benjimouse_]

Amazing that so many just don't understand the fundamental philosophy of the greens.

[@valeriehughes1008]

How do you get your head around all the racist rants of the out of control Davidson and the very over the top approach to that things sexual - these worry people most about voting for Greens.

[@valeriehughes1008]

@@_benjimouse_Because we cannot get past the racist rants against white man by Davidson and Chloe rants about stale old white men and her need to smoke pot on a hourly basis...then Shaw the fraudster... it is hard to get past all this to listen to their fundamental philosophies... I think they have lost their way big time!

[@timjr4437]

Jacks tone is so different in this interview compared to the earlier one.

[@valeriehughes1008]

I noticed that also! Shows his bias doesn't he.. .fails to ask the real serious questions of Shaw and his fraud and patiently softly questions him ..and Tane calls himself a journalist!

[@paton57]

Well he's interviewing the woke far left he'll reach round and give Shaw a hand job while he's kissing his ass. Jack Tame is the most biased disgusting one sided journalist this country has and the total shame of it is his bosses at TVNZ pat the arrogant prick on the back.We have an Absolutely disgusting Mainstream media in this Communist country and don't expect any better when Chri-cinda Lux-dern and sidekick Chippy Willis take over

[@diyguru9677]

Amazing what not threatening the interviewer and, even when challenged, answering the questions, does for the tone and clarity of the interview.

[@adsdft585]

The angle of questioning was different, and response to was different.

[@adsdft585]

Will there be an overhang?

[@aligeoff.27]

But Jack you missed the question which he has persistently refused to answer, "Without BA, what qualifications did he have which got him onto MSc course at Bath University". The more he refuses to answer, the more people smell something fishy, and it's so easy to clear up.

[@Colin_Izer1111]

Thats the thing, It would be so easy to clear up! Bath university have said they would be happy to disclose the terms under which he was selected should James be willing to issue a privacy waiver. Some transparency would be good here James.

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@Colin_Izer1111 As he doesn’t appear to be willing to issue a privacy waiver, I think we can draw our own conclusions about his selections.

[@AdvocateOfJamaica]

Some Masters programs allow entry without a Bachelors degree based on performance in preliminary courses.

[@delinquentinparadise]

But he’s not willing. I wonder why ?

[@carl3941]

To be fair, if there was an issue, the university would likely just revoke his degree.

[@joecavit1195]

This was a surprisingly relaxed interview style compared to others, what a shame as avoidance is probably the least interesting implication of what they are proposing.

[@lliamjurdom9505]

Thats because Mr Peters doesnt know how to have an interview that doesnt degenerate into a custard pie fight ...

[@hapiant]

it was relaxed because he was forthcoming and blunt when he didn't know, or was incorrect. It is a shame that co-governance is a core focus of his party which imo has been co-opted ; they are supposed to be Green.

[@tommym6515]

James Shaw is known to mislead people though, you only have to have a look at his education claims. Only when it was shown he has misled people did he try to amend it and even then he continued to double down.

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@hapiant Agree, completely. They are more interested in pushing a type of latter day apartheid and gaslighting us into believing women can have a penis, there are 100+ genders and it’s OK to bully women who don’t subscribe to their patently looney gender approach.

[@kotenshu]

To be fair, James Shaw is a much better communicator than most other candidates across the board.. I wouldn't say Jack is Biased in favour of the greens, he pretty effortlessly made a moron out of Marama Davidson.

[@shanemckenzie2615]

Softest approach by Tame yet despite Shaw not answering the questions! No bias there!!

[@Me-ui1zy]

eh, I mean, most of the time he didn't answer its not like he avoided the question like Peters, Hipkins and Luxon did. Even if he isn't providing the answer that Tame wanted, because he doesn't have it. Similar to the Seymour interview in that respect. Tame pushes for answers when people avoid the question, not when they acknowledge that they dont have the answer.

[@shanemckenzie2615]

Avoid vs didn't answer! What's the difference 🤔

[@xanderpritchard8099]

Jack Tame is only speaking more softly to James Shaw than his other interviewees because James Shaw actually answers his questions!

[@micah1754]

Exactly. People who are saying he is bias seem to be completely ignoring that detail. Makes a huge difference to how an interview rolls. He's honest and answers what he can, and says when he doesn't have the numbers and why. Winston just hurled insults and avoided answering anything.

[@alastairblair1914]

Rubbish

[@tripytaka9462]

Shaw was unable to answer the first question. He gave a variation of the same answer that Peters gave Tame when asked the same question. However, in this interview Tame didn’t jump on Shaw for details like he did with Peters. There were two people in the Tame/Peters interview. This interview is a completely different tone. Perhaps Tame realised his part to play in the negative aspects of the Peters interview, took on board some lessons learned, and make some adjustments.

[@micah1754]

@@tripytaka9462 Peters only took a long time to get something out that resembled a answer lie that. He didn't directly say - I don't have those numbers, and this is why. A long convoluted defensive tact. I agree the tone was very different between both, but to me its really more on Peters. If Shaw had answered in that way I don't doubt Tame would have grilled more.

[@alastairblair1914]

@@tripytaka9462 It would be nice to think that and I do hope he gets more maturity but I’m sorry I sincerely doubt it - he has an obvious dislike of Winston and as a so called journalist he shouldn’t have a clear bias one way or other I mean isn’t that why he was civil to Shaw

[@joshuadurant6827]

I wish he would come more educated on his policy. Wealth flight is NOT avoidance. Avoidance is the strategic use of our tax laws to avoid paying tax. Wealth flight is capital leaving the country. That is not just missed tax. That is productivity and jobs gone from the economy

[@larryc7035]

Why was Shaw not asked about his fake credentials? Tames a bloody disgrace

[@markcleaver6573]

The legacy media owns Tame.

[@DeathBuckley]

Oh like how David Seymour only worked in business for 7 months of his entire life? And it was his dad’s business.

[@danhemi8779]

Hahahaa

[@wokesick]

Jack Tame attacked Winston and interviewed Shaw. The hyprocrisy is there for all to see.

[@valeriehughes1008]

Agree!

[@markcleaver6573]

Yes absolutely shocking display by slimy jack

[@georgelaxton]

What on earth are you talking about? If Winston just answered the questions Jack wouldn’t have to press him to get a simple answer. If someone asks you about YOUR policy you’re expected to know basic numbers about it. Or at least give some kind of idea. Instead he (Winston) just didn’t answer the question because (and I quite) he doesn’t know. Who is this clown.

[@wokesick]

@@georgelaxton Winston did answer, he said nobody had that answer. Jack wasn't listening, he was on attack mode. If you don't see the difference in these two interviews I would suggest your bias.

[@gusjackson3658]

No so. Winston was simply unprepared. Don’t shoot the interviewer!

[@rob-kiwi3997]

No details on costs. Jack just brushes past it. Yet Winston got abused for less Come on Jack

[@DrippyWaffler]

Because the costs are irrelevant. If it generates 12 billion, whether it costs 50 mil or 200 mil is irrelevant because it still is a net positive. Rather than Winston's prison idea which doesn't generate revenue

[@Mr4bobby]

James even admits 25% of wealthy people will leave NZ, he just calls it tax avoidance. I think you call that voting with your feet!

[@Playboysmurf1]

The first step would be to implement a tax on taking money offshore.

[@adsdft585]

If they took their wealth out of NZ tomorrow, in what form would wealth move? Would that change their tax residency? Which wage slaves would be unemployed ? What small business would disappear?

[@rrichardson4576]

@@adsdft585 business investment, stocks, shares, gold, bank deposits. And a lot of talent and jobs for kiwis.

[@ari54x]

25% avoidance is total avoidance, so it would include other strategies to reduce wealth taxes. (like sham marriages, for instance) And he's not admitting there will be 25% avoidance, he's said they set the assumption there so they could be very reassured that they would generate at least as much revenue as they say they will.

[@rrichardson4576]

If 25% of people take their money off shore then NZ won’t be able to fund the race to the bottom Marxist utopia the Greens want.

[@krissolimmo]

What a load of crock. The Aussie’s have avoided universal dental care for decades because even we aussies can’t afford it. You think this crappy place which can’t even afford a decent police force, nurses and hospitals can afford free dental care?

[@annhollebon]

what a bloody joke.. why does this interviewer treat this person with less aggression than others.

[@delinquentinparadise]

Because he’s biased in their favour. So much for neutrality on TV.

[@valeriehughes1008]

Because he is part of the Labour owned media - propped up with Labour funding and spins for Labour... can't you tell???

[@yeahdefinitely6607]

Winston didn’t even have ballpark figures on the prison and aged-healthcare questions. Might’ve been a different interview if Winston answered instead of skirted the questions as he has always done. Winston was also very antagonistic and tried to get under Tame’s skin - didn’t work.

[@relaxation-Corner]

​@@yeahdefinitely6607 of he said soemthing wrong he'd be attacked about it for ages. Better to not give false answers

[@o900junior]

James was not combative at all and not making personal attacks or threats. James was willing to answer questions around his policies instead of deflecting and insulting when deflection didn’t work…

[@geoffmckeown2236]

Why didn’t you ask him about his fake BA degree from Bath university. Jack ? Tut tut

[@andrewking9435]

Jack just sitting back and letting James rant on about possible party coalitions, without answering question, whereas with Winston continually interrupting and pushing for answer. Why a double standard?

[@DeathBuckley]

Because he was answering the question and he wasn’t throwing abuse and he wasn’t protecting openly genocidal racists.

[@andrewking9435]

@DeathBuckley ridiculous that TPM and Labour / Green supporters who advocate for race based policies have audacity to call equal rights for all kiwis racist, when its the exact opposite!

[@DeathBuckley]

Lololol we all want equal rights but your revisionist history isn’t gonna cut it bro. We don’t have equality now and it’s because of colonisation both in the past and the continuation of it today. You are the one with the audacity and unfortunately your denial of history will only further the destruction and division of history and lead you further into racism. I hope one day you see how much you are being lied to. @@andrewking9435

[@johnhansenbristow2900]

I would say you are looking for what you want to see. It is pretty clear when someone is trying to avoid answering a question and when someone is answering in good faith.

[@MandySam13]

@@DeathBuckley Looks like you for low the disinformation project? That spread misinformation? That’s their favourite word. Genocide. What nonsensical hyperbole. Those who call others racists are usually the ones guilty of it. Some parties are very clear in their contempt for the rest of New Zealand that don’t belong to their ancestry.

[@gayjacob1657]

SHAW WILL CRIPPLE NZ'ERS. WINSTON FOR PRIME MINISTER.

[@andrewking9435]

People leaving the country is not tax avoidence! Is them using their free choice. Is James going to get IRD to chase them around the world if they choose to work elsewhere

[@carl3941]

Don't worry they will just not let them leave

[@hellowill]

They can tax more, sure. But will that money be spent wisely? Under the current government spending is up 80%, but I'm not seeing any results, rather quite the opposite.

[@o900junior]

Were you looked after during covid? Did they subsides your petrol/wof/ruc’s? Teachers and nurses are getting paid far better now and much more support to help get people into work and stay in work all costs money and where sone of the extra spending went to…

[@Me-ui1zy]

That number is misleading as fuck. Not blaming you, it gets thrown around a lot. Using raw, nominal dollar numbers to measures changes in govt spending overtime is bad finance. The measure to use is govt spending as a percent of GDP. When Key came to power, it was about 31.5%. Over his 9 years, it slowly lowered to about 27.5%. Labour have increased it again. Last year was 30.5%, during 2021 it was 33%. National won't dramatically reduce the number of dollars spent. (They are talking about $8bn in savings, the total govt budget is up ~65bn since 2017) If you took it back down to Key levels it would be disastrous because time have moved on. The economy is significantly bigger than it was 6 years ago (~30% larger), inflation has changed the value of a dollar, our population is a lot larger (about 500k more NZers) ect. I have no problems arguing that Labour have spent too much (31% Lab vs like 28% for National), but this "spending is up 80%" is hyper misleading. I don't blame you tho. Its quite a shocking number, and without the context seems insane. But yeah, keeping the budget at the same level means worse outcomes not even outcomes. Which is why a National govt would increase the govt budget by less, but still large percentages over a 6 year period. I know you won't read this, so idek why im writing it.

[@spaceman7915]

Imagine working 60-70hrs over a week from 18 till 65 (47Yr) and building up a business and assets worth $5 million, along the way paying $100's of thousands or millions in taxes, supplying income to many employees to raise their own families, buy a home etc.. Then when your getting ready to retire and live a nice remainder of life (not taking super either due to your wealth), to have these politicians (Green Party) take 2.5% PA off your hard earned assets (wealth) per year, to give to others who hardly work and have paid 1/4 of the tax you have or waste it on unproductive policies.

[@howgoodisit]

It would be 2.5% tax on income/profit would it not? Your assets should be making much more than 2.5% so it would only make your net worth grow slower. But that's the point of it, you don't need more than 5mill mate you can share some of that with the rest of the country.

[@organics4you]

​@@howgoodisitbut why should they be forced to share it. Just make the global corporations pay more

[@spaceman7915]

@@howgoodisit Sharing your own hard earned wealth with someone who hasn't contributed to this wealth is purely wrong and is socialism, socialism is the first stage of the worldwide transition to communism. You seam like the kind of person that expects everything handed to you on a silver platter?, its very wrong to have this belief and is ignorance. There are other ways to make a fairer wealth distributions system then to come after hard working New Zealander's retirement funds.

[@katwallace585]

Oh wow , the politician was allowed to answer questions in this interview unlike the WP one

[@DeathBuckley]

Oh wow the politician wasn’t abusive and blackmailing like in the last one

[@daheefman]

The only question Winston Peters answers is "Which NZ politician is the biggest incompetent, babbling idiot"

[@PhilippeGianni]

As a dentist there is no way that there is enough dentists or infrastructure to cope with the increase it is impossible to provide this services and as it is the school system is underfunded so good luck James Shaw, unrealistic promises

[@ABoxIsMyHome]

They are also investing in dentistry education right?

[@valeriehughes1008]

@@ABoxIsMyHome 9 years in the making!

[@PhilippeGianni]

@@ABoxIsMyHomewhere will the infrastructure come from and at a 5 year course it will take years to set up nd be very expensive where is the money coming from and where are the coatings ,labour and the greens could not do it for housing and medicine in last 6 years record waiting lists why do we believe they can do it for dentistry as it is profession is operating at full capacity.

[@ABoxIsMyHome]

@@PhilippeGianni we did have a pandemic so that didn’t help

[@howgoodisit]

I think its a great policy, i haven't been to the dentist for 6 years and 10 years before that. Never been back because they said i need fillings and would be 2k now.

[@tarunreddy4194]

So he confirmed he is not ruling out National, to all those Green voters out there, hope you heard this clear

[@RJH755]

He didn't technically rule it out but he effectively did since there's no way the Greens' negotiation support team would sign off on putting National into power, let alone the party membership... It annoys me how this idea of a National/Green coalition is always thrown around but never a Labour/ACT one when ACT probably have as much in common with Labour as the Greens do with National

[@jacobatyr]

I mean if it prevented ACT and or NZF I wouldn't be too upset.

[@RJH755]

@@jacobatyr True but I'd also be worried about the Green vote collapsing and going to Labour like when the Maori Party got kicked out in 2017 after 3 terms with National, plus there's no way it'd get past the party membership anyway. I think TOP winning Ilam and coat tailing an extra 1 or 2 MPs in is our best chance to handbrake ACT and NZF should Labour not be able to form a majority

[@tipamariful]

If that's what you got from that exchange, then that's some very impressive mental gymnastics. You must be a National voter!

[@tarunreddy4194]

much better than your clueless mind. youre definitely a Labour/green voter.. haha@@tipamariful

[@sweetascuzz]

Wow you let this guy talk Jack -Lefts lacky

[@leileimc7374]

I feel sorry for Winston after watching this. The interviewer persuaded me to vote for NZ first.

[@mred3867]

Hope Winston gets the media portfolio and re-educates that moron, id start with manners

[@jtonline99]

Why? The only difference is when he didn’t know an answer then James admitted it rather than crying wolf

[@connorswife_]

clearly some bias here

[@o900junior]

James was not combative and was willing to answer questions as much as he could. Jack was giving it far less than he was taking from Winston…

[@braydancoe3390]

yea that reporter is a bully

[@innermvp6057]

Why do I get the feeling Greens are clueless?

[@Xxx-ht3kh]

Why was this interview less aggressive than Winston. Absolutely biased reporting.

[@philsharp6120]

Why is rural NZ being taxed to benefit rich urban to buy and run EVs?? Rural NZ is lucky to have electricity most of the time!

[@Me-ui1zy]

Because rural NZ outputs far far more carbon than anyone else. Why should rural NZers not have to pay for harm that they (inadvertently) cause?

[@ferguswood4065]

Two back to back interviews which will give you the sweats. However, Jack did say that he would press the Greens on their funding in his NZF interview, but then totally omits it, or am I missing something? Maybe that is just due to time pressures, but he made a big deal about it in his interview with NZF and WP made the point that Greens have dubious funding. Why did Jack say one thing and do the next?

[@jasperhorace7147]

Political bias.

[@markpatterson3546]

Inhavent really given this fella much time, and i should. So far, he seems straight ip, has honest answers, and seems to know his stuff. Credit to him!

[@courtneywilliams6376]

He’s a slimy liar (much like the rest of them) - lied about his qualifications straight up lol, can’t provide numbers about his policies either.

[@naknak978]

Jack always likes your journalism, But I’ve started to see bias to all your interviews now. Is really sad to see you’re no longer in the middle or just being a journalist !

[@DeathBuckley]

He is in the middle, but our right wing have gone so extremely far-right and taken people like you with them that you see him as bias and left wing. He’s not, it’s you that has changed

[@ElfrosineAurelia11]

Very interesting to note the difference to this interview compared to the one with Winston Peters I do not have allegiance to either party. A State Funded TV Channel surely should make a bias less obvious.

[@gigawebsurfer]

I think you'll find that it has a lot to do with how the interviewee responds to the questions. Winston was unprepared, couldn't answer simple questions about his own policies and became hostile when he was called out. James on the other hand was asked similar direct questions and answered them, was polite and open.

[@ElfrosineAurelia11]

@@gigawebsurfer that is not the way our family interpretated the interview. Jack Tane was rude and disrespectful. He did not allow Peters to finish a sentence. Whereas Jack Tane allowed James Shaw to finish his sentences. Its very concerning to constantly observe a State funded channel have a clear bias

[@PhoenixSunsNZ]

Just rewatch the interview at 15:05, his line of questioning is purely to make National look bad and the Greens look good. What is the point of his questions other than being a fan boy? @@gigawebsurfer

[@jacobg1188]

No it's because jack is in the governments pocket pretty simple to see.

[@dbasedbase]

Oh wow. Jack sure allowed James to answer every question respectfully compared to Winston Peters? 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀 What an eatarse! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@valeriehughes1008]

Agree... Tane sure showed us his agenda big time! He is a total non event as a journalist.

[@MalcolmWolf]

Because James actually answers questions, while Winston goes off on tangents to deflect.

[@PhoenixSunsNZ]

He had no answer to at least two of the questions. Jack's questions were also intended to be positive instead of brining up past controversies like Winston's interview. Just watch the interview at 15:05 and tell me that Winston got asked similar questions...SMH@@MalcolmWolf

[@dbasedbase]

@@MalcolmWolf James can't even answer people when they ask what his degrees are.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@josephl9619]

The green party should stick to green environmental policies, not green with envy policies

[@valeriehughes1008]

Love your comments.. to the greens success is a very bad thing... if you work hard and achieve... they want all that you have .. now this is communism isn't it... perhaps they would be more honest if they called themselves the Green with Envy party!

[@rrichardson4576]

And the confuse your child with gender identity and race baiting.

[@Me-ui1zy]

Envy is when you think everyone should be allowed to have dental care If there was no public health system today, you would be complaining that letting everyone access healthcare is the politics of envy

[@josephl9619]

@@Me-ui1zy no, i wouldnt. I agree that if the country can afford it, we should have free dental health care. I think all new zealanders aspire to that. So why did you cherry pick that example? What do you say about the green party having a leader who blames all maori problems on white people? And who blames all of the violence in the world on white men? And who blames the rich for the problems of the poor?

[@jreverie7018]

Would love to potentially vote Green but absolutely won't be until Marama is gone. Toxic

[@hepc1]

Same marama is a joke

[@diyguru9677]

Sad that racism is stopping you from supporting the next generation.

[@valeriehughes1008]

....and extremely racist!

[@jasperhorace7147]

Chuck Chloe into that basket too. We’re queer, we’re here, we’re coming for your kids!

[@rrichardson4576]

Can’t see any appeal with the greens with or without marama. They want to encourage laziness, welfare dependence and communism. Taking NZ down to the third world country.

[@dnkjdnkj2679]

How very cosy. A person could be forgiven for believing that James Shore is Jack Tames surrogate kindly Father. No questions on James academic qualifications/history at all. Certainly not the scene we viewed with Jacks Uncle Peters. Jack, you are such a biased excuse for a ......

[@carl3941]

None of thoes taxes he suggested have solved any of thoes issue he addressed all they have done is create more tax.

[@superkiwistar]

lol. jack tame going soft on the party he supports. pathetic.

[@kyliec143]

It's amazing how the interview can flow so much better when your interviewee actually answers questions.

[@superkiwistar]

@@kyliec143 if i interview winston peters, the interview would go very well indeed. tames bias is well known and obvious for all to see. so, assume you intend voting greens? do you understand how disastrous that would be for nz? all the rich will leave the country - they don't have to stay - and the poor will be relying on handouts that don't exist. another failed state.

[@rossjohnson3396]

Never is it mentioned that New Zealand remains the only country in the world to include agriculture in its emission totals. We would half our emissions levels overnight if we used the same measurements as every other country in the world. Certainly the Greens will never mention this.

[@WeddingDJBusiness]

This party cannot be truly considered a green party unless the term "green" is interpreted to mean a party affiliated with the United Nations or aligned with socialist principles. They primarily focus on addressing carbon emissions, as advocated by the United Nations' carbon zero policies, which some see as a questionable way to transfer funds from developed to developing countries, especially China, which is the largest emitter of carbon but enjoys favorable terms under the UN agreement. Their recent emphasis on dental care seems like a last-minute attempt to gain more votes, and their overall ideology revolves around socialism-a single-minded approach that is perceived to rely heavily on taxing the wealthy as a means to alleviate poverty. However, many argue that the true path out of poverty involves concentrating on production, the sale of goods and services, and supporting businesses, rather than imposing heavy taxes on them to redistribute to the less fortunate. It's important to note that wealthy countries often have superior environmental and healthcare standards, regardless of the tax rate. Taxation alone is not the solution to lifting people out of poverty. The experiences of countries like China and other socialist-leaning nations, including Sweden, which has abandoned some of its high tax rates and lacks a minimum wage, serve as examples that suggest the limitations of this far-left New Labour party's approach. Many believe that this party should be more transparent about its true ideology and stop presenting itself as a champion for environmental causes.

[@stumpymcstump]

Good Lord, yes Jack does try and drill down but the antagonism directed towards the parties seen to be on the right side of centre is lacking. He gives much more leeway here than he would ever giver give to David Seymore. Do better hold everyone to account or allow everyone a free platform, stop putting your fingers on the scale.

[@anthonymorgan6255]

Jack Tame apologized to Shaw for interrupting him. What a sad little man. Consistency in his interview method is sadly lacking. His agenda is on full display.

[@Kavarnn]

That's coz Jack is a left wing lunatic😂

[@KhrisNZ]

Political interviews are a rorschach test. You saw what you wanted to see, and Greenies will see an unfair attack on their boy.

[@paulmills2862]

Where is the attack dog that went after Whinny lol ????? I think we know who Jack in voting for haha

[@DeathBuckley]

It’s crazy how most journalists whose job it is to dissect and find holes in politicians and their promises, those that keep up with current affairs and have a really good understanding of the political, social and economic situation are voting left. It’s almost like they spend time with all of these politicians and can see when they’re lying as it’s what they do for a living. It’s almost like they know something we don’t right? Like it’s almost like they see the lies and try to expose them. Like it’s almost like they are right or something?

[@Againstdhawa]

you cant compare NZ to Australia Mr Shaw these are different weight classes, this wealth TAX will scare investors and people will be leaving NZ in their droves job losses will be huge

[@R7R9]

More tax on wealthy people and hand that money straight to gang members, well done Green Party

[@silenthawkstudios9924]

I'd prefer a gang member to a wealthy person in my society any day, they're less parasitic.

[@linmal2242]

Wealth Tax - an accelerated reason for distributive schemes for dispersing wealth and relocating holders. Bring it on and watch the exodus of money and talent !!!

[@Colin_Izer1111]

Good that you FINALLY stopped misrepresenting yourself James & took down the false claim from your linked in profile stating you had obtained a BA from Victoria University when you indeed never had!

[@valeriehughes1008]

...but you cannot obtain a Masters without having first completed a bachelors degree and he refuses to tell us how he managed to get a MSc degree which he still claims he has but will not tell us how he managed to get it...

[@socialite1283]

They can re-imagine "aotearoa" all they like, but they're not going to do that to New Zealand. Next time, try asking James Shaw about why he's unwilling to give a privacy waver so that the validity of his sole academic qualification can be validated as having not been based on the BA that he didn't achieve in NZ. Also, try asking James shaw why he's primarily pushing social policies instead of green policies despite his party supposedly being for environmental issues. - supposedly.

[@paulh6395]

If 25 percent of the wealthy shut their businesses and leave the country it will be very bad for the workers.If half of them have wealth over 10 million they are not a small businesses that employs a few people they will be employing hundreds.What if someone has 10 houses with a 5 million value rented out and they need to pay more tax.Who do you think will end up paying the tax bill.The renters now are paying the renters tax imposed by the government through higher rents which the landlord will be collecting for the government and pass it on at tax time.

[@adsdft585]

Cost plus inflation is difficult. This is also an issue with the debt based economy . The owners of debt gather income on that debt from those who don't own resources.

[@Fedorusmaximus]

With a rental cap they wouldn’t be able to pass it on to renters. We’ve already had this corporate tax rate before. As a business owner I’m fine with paying higher tax on profit so long as we get tangible benefits ie dental care & better public transport like trans etc

[@silenthawkstudios9924]

Temporarily, but in the medium - long term, a smaller "investor" class can "create" just as many jobs as a large one, AND with less parasitic actors in the economy.

[@davemonster2]

i think the 25% would be those uber wealthy that dont run business here and live in Queenstown in private lake front property's worth 32 million making new zealand an unafforable shithole xD

[@paulh6395]

Yes i totally agree and if the landlords numbers dont work out they will sell.

[@JimmyDoggy-b1c]

I am not prejudiced but racism is my heritage. I can understand Māori feeling So many Canadians doesn’t like English monarchy including myself When Ceylon fountain is dry British left the island. Ceylon was inhumane English background folks should respect Māori

[@dpp186]

NO BACK PAY EVEN AFTER 6 MONTHS NZBUS DRIVERS WELLINGTON. THANK YOU

[@imopn]

jeez 33% corporate. You would think they would learn from the successes of ireland. Instead of milking exiting companies more how about creating an environment where other multinationals would want to setup shop here. If I was to create a digital service / app there is no chance you would want to setup shop in NZ.

[@aligeoff.27]

This pretty much nails how many feel about the incumbent government. 1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. 2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. 3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else 4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! 5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

[@ABoxIsMyHome]

Rich only get rich by exploiting the poor, there is no humane rich millionaires (stolen farmland, low payed wages etc)

[@organics4you]

​@@ABoxIsMyHomenaive

[@ABoxIsMyHome]

@@organics4you tell me how you get multiple millions fairly without exploiting

[@1967stevej]

SOFBALLS compared to the attack on WP

[@subramsubramaniam1327]

Thanks Jack and James Shaw

[@2007maxamillion]

Jack sure is letting this guy speak a whole lot more in this interview than his previous one. Just a whole different vibe, huh. 🤔

[@paywize]

James Shaw won't answer a simple question. The voting public need a leader that is competent, honest and articulates what they stand for. That means he is not capable of being in Government.

[@Maddie969]

Who ticks those boxes for you?

[@paywize]

Chris Luxon in spades. You may disagree. However, his qualifications are legit!

[@Maddie969]

@@paywize I do disagree! But I guess that's politics haha

[@philsharp6120]

Wealth tax?? The wealth and investment into NZ will be lost and moved overseas. This will drag the economy down and unemployment and poverty will increase!! Other investers will also move investments overseas because return in NZ will be dismal. Capital losses will be rampant in declining economy. Will there be tax refund for losses as is done on the PIE tax system in NZ??

[@bobbimurray7664]

Jack. You are a bit silly... you need to do better.

[@wilfscovell336]

Just fairy dust talk has no comprehension whats so ever😂

[@terryvanderhoeven2148]

Why would you not simply move your assets offshore? All that would be achieved after the extra administration of a wealth tax is a lower revenue available to the government. Therefore, the opposite reality of what Green supporters are looking for in gaining from taking from others who have sacrificed and worked for investment, paying their taxes in the process.

[@jackohere1878]

Move your assets to where as other countries actually have taxes believe it or not.

[@diyguru9677]

Which particular country that doesn't have a wealth tax or CGT are you thinking of? Panama? Bahamas?

[@Playboysmurf1]

This is why it should be a tax on land ownership, like we have local council rates, we need central government rates. Then a corresponding reduction in income tax.

[@rrichardson4576]

Yep Swiss, cayman or jersey islands. Tax free havens.

[@terryvanderhoeven2148]

@diyguru9677 Most countries do not have an additionsl wealth tax. History has proven it doesn't work as well as people imagine.

[@robertfairburn9979]

Shaw is allowed to answer but Tame will not let Winston to finish his answer. I’m not a Winston fan and never have voted for him.

[@foggycoast]

No questions about how much accountancy and consultancy firms like his old employers PWC have raked up in fees to navigate the deliberately convoluted, costly and ever changing ETS schemes for years while CO2 emissions kept rising anyway. A totally ineffective, even toxic system, that profits the already rich and penalises the poor. No questions about the 12 million for the millionnaires private eco-school. No questions about the missing BA and what role his two mothers' MoE connections played in getting him into an MSc in the UK regardless. White middle class government privilege? Son of a teacher, stepson of a school principal, went to private primary school, can't even complete his BA, gets into Masters overseas anyway. No questions about the Greens racist MPs. Had to go soft on poor James, a white cis male in the Green Party. Can't be easy working with crazy Marama. Luckily his old mates from their conditioning years in the UK Jacinda and Chris ensured his ministerial job was guaranteed even when the voters didn't want him.

[@nigelgreenwood4662]

Can James answer the questions about his degree, the one Ian Wishart is investigating.

[@christinerobin386]

Exactly. How can Shaw have a post grad degree when he's admitted he doesn't have an undergrad qualification? Fortunately Ian Wishart will keep digging.

[@alicemckinley1466]

Bring down company tax for SMEs

[@harmonyadams7577]

James Shaw is one of my favourite politicians. Such a pity he's a Greenie 😢

[@andrewking9435]

So we had more rain which helped hydrolakes and power during a climate crisis. Irony

[@jr263]

No debate over the Pandemic Treaty ? Wouldnt ya think that should be on the Q and A agenda !!!

[@Master-ng9uj]

Fuck me, 5M+ people in the country and we can't elect any more than a handful of competent MPs that aren't full of shit to parliament. This country has gone nowhere this century, and it's not difficult to see why.

[@Antares2358]

Although I'll never vote Green's, why didn't Tame interview Marama davidson instead of James Shaw?... Probably because she couldn't answer any of these questions coherently. It would expose The Greens true extreme radical extreme policies. James is the closest the Greens have to a normal reasonable person.

[@yahmom626]

He's interviewed Marama previously in the last few months

[@valeriehughes1008]

Why did Tane not bring up the fact that Shaw has committed fraud claiming he has degree he does not have and gaining highly government jobs on the strength of those claims...he ignored all until Ian Wishart made this very public. He needs to be hold to account for his fraud.

[@jasperhorace7147]

And just watch the bullying Marama faction push him out after the election. He’s a dead man walking.

[@kyliec143]

Tame also interviewed Julie-Anne Genter not that long ago

[@angelamccallum3315]

None of the greens are normal.

[@seapeteful]

Ask him about his education clames, He will not answer.

[@emilyalice1]

A 'wealth tax' is just an unrealised capital gains tax. It reeks of envy. It will never be implemented. Far easier to have a tax free band at the lower end.

[@steeeeve8676]

I agree a tax free band is much easier but compared to the rest of the first world nations New Zealand's wealthy get away pretty much tax free. It has nothing to do with envy, more to do with making people pay their fair share. If you want a direct comparison on country vs. country, look no further than Finland. Happier, wealthier, more successful, similar population, ultra modern compared to tired old NZ yet taxed far more than the Green's proposal. Finland has seen continued strong growth throughout times of world hardship and banking crisis. New Zealand has stalled because of disproportionate tax on certain demographics, in fact under the current labour government the wealthy in NZ have increased their wealth more than ever before in history while poverty continues to skyrocket. NZ is disintegrating. Majority of small businesses are now owned by foreigners, infrastructure is falling apart and all of the home grown talent is moving overseas for better lives and wages. Something drastic needs to be done and soon and that should start by taxing the wealthy not through taking more off the poor.

[@emilyalice1]

@@steeeeve8676 All realised income should be taxed. A tax on an unrealised gain is like trying to tax a wish or a hope. Further, if assets go down in value, would the IRD compensate people for the unrealised loss?

[@steeeeve8676]

@@emilyalice1 That is one of the weakest arguments they use as opposition to any mention of capital gains, the other being the flight of the wealthy over seas. If assets drop in value and you don't offlay it you are a bad investor simple as, you deserve your losses. NZ is one of the last countries in the entire first world where capital gains isn't taxed and I agree it should, as do majority of economists here in NZ.

[@philsharp6120]

The NZ superfund and govt depts like ACC invest overseas to mitigate risk! When the wealth capital tax causes economy decline investers will not want investments in NZ so will invest overseas!! The NZ share market will crash to lows as a result and some overseas investment group will then buy up NZ share so our companies ate the overseas owned- foreign invester has low tax!

[@DeathBuckley]

But national want to sell off ACC anyway

[@DW_Kiwi]

Is it Professor or Dr Shaw??

[@gilbertroberttuahuru4715]

I need new teeth that will be a cost savings ,I'm a super annuation and still pay taxes from other resources. Free prescriptions, free dentures, tax the wealthy, don't squeeze the middle.

[@rrichardson4576]

Sorry mate but those are your health issues, not the taxpayers. Go to a marae then you get them free.

[@PhoenixSunsNZ]

It will be the taxpayers if things get serious and the person has to go to hospital. Your marae remark is just racist and a poor attempt at whit. @@rrichardson4576

[@braydancoe3390]

vote for Winston Peters. He cares about you.

[@genm7615]

lol

[@angelamccallum3315]

Absolutely!!!

[@_nom_]

You do realise the top tax bracket is 54% (GST is an invisible tax)

[@Me-ui1zy]

That assumes that people that make over 180k a year spend 100% of there money on goods and services which just isn't true. GST isn't invisible, its regressive. John Keys biggest failing was lowering taxes on the wealthy and raising GST to pay for it. (After promising he wouldnt change GST)

[@pathflight9803]

So to clarify. We don’t know how to measure wealth, don’t know how to enforce it, and don’t know what the enforcement will cost, and aren’t clear on how much it will raise. Awesome

[@stevenbrown8157]

Ol bias Jacko

[@petertrott5107]

You got to look at, what is the green party doing with our money??? Consultants consultants consultants

[@slimdusty6328]

I might have been a green party supporter myself. But green party's policies have ended up creating problems for people with land with regenerating native bush.

[@ABoxIsMyHome]

Farmers are actually paid titles for planting native bushes, helps others

[@slimdusty6328]

@@ABoxIsMyHome yes but if the farmers would have regenerated bush, on their property, they would be paid nothing. And the government is the only people who can stand to gain anything from that. If the farmers property has regenerating bush, they'd be better off to "clear fell" the whole lot of this regenerating bush, first off, so they could then plant the land out in more new young native bush trees, which would then allow the farmers to gain something from it. The problem with green party politician is that they are all like bunch of city breed yuppies who have very little idea of what's going down "at ground level", for the proper farmer landowners. I would be happy to see the green party go completely extinct. Like the dodo bird

[@DW_Kiwi]

And race relations

[@slimdusty6328]

@@DW_Kiwi yes, i've begun to suspect that perhaps they might have their own reason to desire to see divisions growing among citizens. People are possibly being used like pawns are used in a game of chess

[@Kiwi_ecker]

Q + A with Jack Tame 2023, 40 x 60min plus 1 x 118min special for TVNZ, up to $842,200. TVNZ’s leading political current affairs programme that tackles newsworthy political issues alongside debates and interviews. Its paid for PIJF, jack tame is gagged to follow this labour governments rules. Waste of money

[@carl3941]

Yeah, you let them have the choice by knowing what you will do, when they vote for you at the election.

[@rogerdewhurst5750]

Just ask him whether he used his non-existent BA from VUW as a pre-requisite to get admitted to the Bath University MSc course.

[@gyros29]

Roger the dodger get off interest you fool

[@danhemi8779]

Free dental 👍

[@marsspacex6065]

No pushback on greens radical racist and gender ideology policies. Typical interviewer does not question any of these and the misery and harm its done. No mention of the trans social contagion being peddled in schools and general society. Greens went from being a environmental party to a wokeist party.

[@whyishow]

Gender ideology talk is a distraction used to get idiots to vote emotionally. This election is about economy

[@gusjackson3658]

USA tax rate is higher. With loopholes if you are rich.

[@chilledchadilss4070]

What exactly is the deal with the left based view of the quick fire questions from you jack about national / act coalition? Seems like you're introducing bias and trying to sway opinion - came off as very scripted and a bit disappointing...maybe winston had a point :D

[@innermvp6057]

Australia has higher salaries on average?

[@guochaoyang9748]

if this green wealth tax policy kick into play. Most rich ppl with brain will gone to Australia or other country . Or at lease sell their asset here and move money overseas. There will be a lot job loss and weath loss for the country. It will be a disaster to nz economy.

[@cameronlabone6050]

LET THE ONES THAT WANT TO FLEE FLEE JACK 😂 people are fleeing to nz for some bloody reason! Youre halarious how youre stuck on the non issue 😂

[@John.Leitch]

12:40 Jack hates our farmers. taxing the farmers for emission is disgusting our country should tax them less not more. they feed us they are the livelihood of this country.

[@luckyM9963]

Jack should move to Cuba and live there forever.

[@Playboysmurf1]

They also sell food cheaper to other countries than the people within this country.

[@valeriehughes1008]

The gentle way he handled the fraudster Shaw told us the Labour owned media works for Labour and its coalition partners... we must have a free press - it is every citizens' democratic right...

[@louislowe1849]

Farming is important to feed us indeed. But farming fruit and veg produces far less emissions than the livestock sector. The farming that causes the most damage is dairy farming. Therefore, it would be in the interest of New Zealanders and all future generations, to minimise emissions. One simple way to reduce emissions, is to transition into a future that is less dependent on dairy, keyword being transition, which does take time. Regardless of political ideology, i believe we all would want a future that our children and their children, can live in a world with clean air, rivers and not be at risk of man made health issues.

[@tc6817]

​@@Playboysmurf1not the farmers, they get the same money wherever it goes

[@Againstdhawa]

sorry but greens got davison in there

[@Ragnarok579]

Green party trying to create a dystopian future 🤮 Gov getting fat on tax 😂

[@filimonchik123tube]

Well I used to live in the beautiful country with universal free dental. Yes, I managed to save couple my original teeth, but please, no. When he is talking about "free dental" he is assuming the dental quality as it is now, but free. It will not be that way, we tried and it did not work.

[@jasperhorace7147]

Agreed. NHS dental care very low quality.

[@alicemckinley1466]

Omg is all about taxing the farmers. Towny

[@benmason3941]

I dont even like the Greens but this interview was terrible asking nebulous questions about minute details rather than the policies themselves

[@iamrossmatthews]

what james shaw does not factor in is that yes, NZ does have some tax policies that a kind to wealth people, but the truth is it does not offer a lot else so without those kind tax policies people would move else where

[@Moamanly]

If people want to move away because they think paying a normal rate of tax is untenable-then let them piss off I say. What kind of country do you want this to be-one where people actually care about others or one where it is deemed great to milk the system and hog all the assets while the majority of your fellow citizens are struggling to make ends meet? 311 Families paying 8.9% tax and telling the rest to eat cake..........

[@prabhakarrao4922]

Why should we believe anything the greens say when their co-leader won’t give media to find out how (if at all) he got his masters degree. Thanks to the perseverance of a select few in the media we have established that James Shaw never had a BA from Victoria university. It is so sad that we can’t get this much needed information before polling day.

[@jaredbeckett]

I love it when losers like Shaw wish to gouge those they despise for working hard and trying to get ahead.

[@adsdft585]

If someone works hard! If they are a cleaner or a CEO both work hard. So why do some gather excess ( it is ok to be well off) ? Also we need to explore the debt based economy and if has negative effects on daily life.

[@rrichardson4576]

@@adsdft585 those who have excess have worked to a higher level eg degrees and skills and taken risks. It pays off because fewer people are there to compete with them in the workforce. A cleaner works hard but loads of us can do that.

[@Straitjacket-Fits]

@adsft585 May your aim at the oligarchs be straight and true

[@Mr4bobby]

@adsdft585 North Korea runs a good system like that, equal wages for everyone

[@vanessasomerville7036]

@@adsdft585 we’ve had far too many years of a super socialist government. In answer to your question. Chances are the CEO got an education and degrees. So let’s punish them for being successful. We need balance.