NZXT H9 Flow - Look at the Glass on that

[@ensarkzlrmak0087]

One of the best looking cases on the market at the moment.

[@jackbrian2993]

I've watched many other review videos of H9 Flow and you are the first person to check on the side panel against the 12vhpwr cable, thank you very much now I can order this without worrying about it.

[@sparda9060]

Thank you for showing every single part of this case so we have no questions about the gpu power cable clearance and the back panel's space to store wiring!! Not many case reviews show much of the back side or back panel.

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad I could help

[@fred_2021]

"Cheaper than beer" lol. Brilliant bit of number work there!

[@bobsmithson8592]

"The NZXT Flow is cheaper than beer" - lolz. leo can be funny in a very distinctive english way.

[@-opus]

2:00 The lack of pwm fans in some of these pricey cases is a joke.

[@fred_2021]

That's true, although I prefer to leave my own fans maxed. I haven't seen - or heard - a downside yet.

[@Donuts_Donuts_Donuts]

They assume those aren’t your only fans

[@-opus]

@@Donuts_Donuts_Donuts I have a Be Quiet Silent Base 802, it came with 3 non pwm 140mm fans. Not a cheap case, they should have been pwm fans.

[@Donuts_Donuts_Donuts]

@@-opus again, they assume you use different fans as only having a few fans is common sense. Plus fans are expensive. A mid tier corsair three pack is ninety bucks, half of the price this whole case itself

[@-opus]

@@Donuts_Donuts_Donuts High end cases should come with high end fans (pwm being a part of that), I have no issue with the case coming with 3 fans, but they should have been pwm. I added 2 more pwm fans to the case, but would have very much preferred if the included fans (a part of the case price) were also pwm. I would have had no issue with the case coming without fans at all, and being significantly cheaper due to that, I would have actually preferred it, but since they are included in the price, I expect them to be pwm.

[@bryanxsologame]

Congrats! The most complete review I've seen

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you liked it!

[@fairycat]

Almost full NZXT build looks magnificent.

[@swizzler8053]

Have this case with a custom loop in it. I put a 100MM pump reservoir beneath the psu. There is plenty of space. You can also do a push pull on top. And i have an 420 MM on the bottom. I really love this case. Keep up the great work you guys and stay safe.

[@RunAroundGuy2]

As im considering this case myself for a case update. What would be the max amount of space would be available in that area? I have a d5 glass cylinder pump res combo that would be amazing if i could slip it in that back area for a concealed res pump install

[@swizzler8053]

@@RunAroundGuy2 100 mm would be the max. 150 is too large.

[@tradcatpat2385]

I have had this case for about 3 months. Looks gorgeous, lots of room to work in and manage those cables. Fans on the floor of the case make a big difference in its cooling ability. But at the going price for this case, having to pop for an additional $100 of fans is not much appreciated.

[@bikedoc4145]

Yeah they missed out on this one bad, with better fans and flow coming from bottom and side and exhausting out the top and back mine with a 5900X cpu under load doesn't get even close to their temps and mine is real quiet while doing it. Leo missed this one bad

[@DavidTrejo]

I have this case, 13900K, 4090, and have much better temperatures. 1. Use the front fan position for the CPU AIO 2. Make use of the bottom intakes for additional positive pressure and cool air for the gpu For my latest upgrade, I am doing push/pull for both the CPU space AIO and a GPU since I don’t want to go with a custom loop. I love that this case lets me do push/pull on two 360 radiators (front/top). I will admit that the horizontal 30 series 40 series 12whr cable clearance is terrible so you either have to use a third party adapter like a cablemod 90° or 180° adapter, or go vertical

[@simbiote89]

Same CPU/GPU combo, with the graphics card in the vertical mount, belly fans for intake, CPU radiator pushing out in the ceiling and i'm getting 60-70deg when running it hard, I reckon the belly intake is making a big difference regardless of which way the side fans are pushing.

[@NotCommanderShepard]

Checking in from July 2024. Just built a PC in this case using an E-ATX motherboard (X670E Aorus Master). I have to say, this is by far the easiest case I've ever built in. Even though I needed 3 pcie power cables for my 3090, there is ZERO cable mess in the back. About the stock fans: They are almost e-waste levels of bad. I think that's the only flaw.

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you seem happy with it!

[@harleylover9446]

amazing looking clean build that. I actually preferred it with the card in the normal position, the big slab of plain black ruined the aesthetics IMO. but maybe thats just me.

[@sparda9060]

you get better cooling for GPU too being horizontal layout since you can add fans on bottom of the case as intake fans for cold to feed the GPU's intake fans to cool the big ass heatsinks.

[@bikedoc4145]

The whole reason you had high temps is you put no fans in the bottom! Optimum flow would be intake in bottom and side and exhaust out the top and back. Mine with a 12 core, 24 thread cpu under load doesn't get anywhere close to your temps and it's very quiet with better fans and even aggressive fan curve so people don't go by this, it's way way better than shown here. Sorry Leo but you missed out on the possibility of this one big time

[@marinipersonal]

The only way to make it efficient is adding more fans, good fans. I managed to get slightly better temperatures compared to the O11D Evo, but that would require all fans spots populated. There’s only two criticism I can genuinely make about this case: the bottom fan position is poor. Should’ve been a removable bracket and also some gap between it and the bottom of the case. My T30 can operate only at 30% (2000 rpm mode) to be on the same noise level of the O11D Evo/Phanteks NV7 at 50%. The second one is top radiator clearance. 5mm taller would make a big difference.

[@kex_tex]

Great video! Very informative. Thanks for posting!!

[@proesterchen]

That's a thoroughly innovative design. Kudos to NZXT.

[@BlackTone91]

Yes very innovative

[@warpedphreak]

There is literally nothing innovative here. LL did all this and more long ago

[@eshelmen]

surprised you didn't put the aio on the side to compare temps.

[@keolath1343]

Just started getting into the whole pc thing recently, first pc ever, and bought a pc a friend recommended to me from cyberpower. Has an i7-12700kf with a gigabyte 3070 eagle inside of it with a H519 mid case. After some gaming and fiddling around it turns out that the case isnt that good for the GPU as it runs around 80 cel at max settings for Dayz. Ive been eyeballing this case due to the price and how great the airflow is and im definitely considering the H9 now thanks to this video along with other improvements later down the line but my main goal now is making sure i stay below that 80 mark the best i can and i think that this case could definitely do it.

[@KitGuruTech]

Hope it works out for you keep us posted

[@sparda9060]

if you want better GPU temps, you need to install 2/3 fans on bottom of the case and make sure its pulling air (intake position) from outside the case and blowing right into the fans on GPU. Fans on GPU are intake fans that pull air from the case and blow into the heatsinks of GPU.

[@vMaxHeadroom]

I have the H7 Flow which has turned out to be excellent with an AIO on my 13700K, the H9 looks great and a nice step up especially I thinki if you populate the bottom row as an intake with 3 fans. Cable clutter looks to be a doddle on the H9 as well, though I recently bought the Corsair Shift PSU so it will not work on the H9...Great review!

[@SuperHundog]

I was interested in this case, but I was wondering about that space over the EPS socket. So the radiator mount on top is closer to the motherboard instead of the glass. That sucks. Thanks for showing this, Leo.

[@canarychrome7012]

We missed you last week Leo

[@erickelly4107]

Looks better with the standard horizontal GPU mount (has a nice backplate and side profile) otherwise nice overall. Add fans on the bottom to farther improve cooling to the GPU (horizontal position of course) etc. The 12VHP cable touches the glass.. And? Who cares it doesn’t matter / effect anything - it’s not like it’s smashed up against it.

[@nemolition]

Cheaper than beer 💜

[@powermaster5004]

I really like that build, and the look of it. the GPU would need a change to make it more appealing to look at but apart from that, nicely done leo

[@manicmods]

Thumbs up for title alone 😂 Aesthetics have become too important for manufacturers when they start sacrificing cooling. My HP Omen 30L suffered from same poor engineering. I replaced the glass with plexiglass and added an intake. I took it a step further and retrofitted cooler but likely didn't need to. I can game whisper quiet now. I've got a video on it if interested!

[@shirolee]

Great video!

[@rufusmctavish1164]

its a pretty good case tbh - i think it would need a white GPU or something fancy like a palit with the diamond look, but it should be able to cover most build scenarios.

[@geofftatesmate7748]

Nice review, but im waiting on the tower 200 from the computex coverage, i thought that looks fantastic.

[@raiuusagi9299]

why would u want a radiator frame on the bottom?

[@inlovewithmycar7085]

i love the look of it, but im waiting to see the new lian li cases hitting the market soon after computex and some proper reviews.

[@haremofprocessors6954]

I do like a nice clean white build - the case looks good. that 4080 card is massive isnt it... wow

[@ags911]

Better off water cooling it. Most of that size is the heat sinks.

[@theukpunishersclips9486]

Is it possible, in this particular build, to install the radiator above the roof rack and then the fans below the rack? this would fix the space issue but not sure if the rack allows for the pipes to feed through, has anyone else done this?

[@larwiemcdonnel5322]

thats a very attractive design IMO, loads of width, and I like a lot of width

[@sabgog]

95 to 100c is pretty hot, is there a reason why you didn't add fans to the bottom?

[@boltsandbraces6261]

I want to wait and see a few of the cases from computex, the new lian li models and the tower 200 from TT.

[@historianfabulousio5128]

Are you reviewing any of the new TT cases from Computex soon leo?

[@amdforlife5591]

I think you are right, the fans would need replaced to make sense. they seem a little ineffective when quiet, and just annoying when they work better at higher speeds.

[@Nite-Lite-Gamers]

Leo, As always no messing about and straight to the point. Althought the DV fans that comes with the case are a let down as for the price they should be PWM.

[@Animeking_204]

It's very fantastic

[@stevenandrews8225]

The lack of grommets on the cable pass throughs at this price point is disturbing

[@ardaak4495]

The way it hides all that rats nest of cabling is very impressive

[@reinardviloria3433]

Enjoyable watch! Will you guys be reviewing the tower 200 soon? I quite liked the coverage you had on that case

[@KitGuruTech]

Not sure when Thermaltake is sending out samples of The Tower 200 but you can be sure we will be covering it. Looks like a very interesting case. Leo

[@mustafabilalpehlivan7656]

Wow that CPU temperature really gets up there!

[@VideogamesAsArt]

too much glass and rgb for my liking but nice white colour. Thanks for your review!

[@hacerseven8709]

Possible to see just air cooled results with this case that’s closed on 3 sides?

[@callendeer]

im really curious about the airflow with this kind of aquarium cases.

[@gorkskoal9315]

weirdly? good.

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

@@gorkskoal9315 yeah its not bad, cant say im a huge fan of those stock models in this case, but its easily fixed if you have some good fans on hand.

[@ardavarol5393]

Love the prices of stuff nowadays.

[@brightlight1998]

@KitGuruTech the optimal flow that i would use is bottom to top with the vertical gpu installed .... i would love to know the temps as im getting the NZXT H9 Flow very soon

[@eckostream3541]

I feel like you really to use the bottom intake with fan as well, side intake never fully get airflow in properly. Same issue with the Lian Li 011.

[@stevewatson6839]

As reliable as ever, sir! Black PSU's. They were doing SO well on the white theme. They appear to have gotten the underlying mobo right too this gen. Paired with a POWERCOLOR HELLHOUND AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX SPECTRAL WHITE (I understand you go with what you have to hand!) and what would there be not to like aestheticallly and performance-wise? Temps and noise are another matter and trapping the EPS cable... They put all the variations in the manual; but failed to build them all in the case before they finalised the design? Whoops! The market isn't exactly short of 011 clones, even with glass panel meeting glass panel with nowt betwix in white; I'd pick the best priced and executed. Which is unlikely to be the H9 Flow. If they do a non-Flow; lord knows how THAT would fair for performance, temps and noise! Cheers again!

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

i like its more accurate than most sounds ive heard, more fun too vision ears would produce more precise sounds but i prefer this, i rarely critical listening nowadays

[@nazirekeskin5425]

Does look really cool though even if its not actually very good at airflow.

[@Sol-su2mi]

I was going to get this, but it was out of stock at the time

[@QuentinStephens]

Another cracker! Thank you, Leo. That case looks absolutely excellent for cable management. "The NZXT Flow is cheaper than beer" Brilliant! The fans not being PWM and not being linked is disappointing given the price. The latter is also disappointing for the AIO cooler. Speaking of the cooler, I noticed that while the CPU got very hot, the AIO fluid did not. I think the peak was about 40 degrees. Or was that just an accident of cutting? I did notice the lack of grommets. How rounded are the edges of the holes? Will cables catch and wear? You commented on the EPS connector: I find that difficult in many cases. Perhaps you might try fitting the EPS cables to the motherboard before fitting it, feed them through the holes from the front, and only afterwards plug them into the PSU?

[@edakuzu7931]

You can never add enough RGB Leo.

[@frikkievuiltrens]

The lack of ample 140mm fan support in such a large case is disappointing. And I need a reset button (just had to reset my PC yesterday).

[@Games_and_Tech]

Exactly

[@GerryI1]

Thanks for the good video. I have a question. I'm currently using Rog Helious (with all 4 stock 140mm fans) and Rog Raujin 360 MK I (with the small display) and stock Noctua fans on it, thinking about changing case (Phanteks NV9 or 7; O11 Evo D XL or NZXT H9 Flow). So question is which one is better for GPU and CPU Temp if any? Thanks.

[@um8778]

Goooooood Anakin

[@enesozdemir9604]

Nice they thought to include a proper hard drive cage rather than just ssd mounts.

[@DamijinMyndz]

What’s a great case then in your opinion?

[@ZachalZockt]

@10:20 that was the point why i bought the H7 flow argb. a shame, to make such a wide case and give the gpus no space...

[@Orioneuu]

Thank you for the review! If I wanted to add 3 extra nzxt f120 core rgb fans would I need anything extra like a fan controller etc. ?(10 total fans and 2 rgb controllers) thank you!

[@Typhon888]

I like it but it sounds like it’s too thin. My Core X71 has thicker metal…. Damn and you can’t fit a 54mm triple rad on the top. That’s a deal breaker for me. Good video though thank you and I love the look of the case.

[@chriswhatsthiscwt3008]

It’s either this or y70 🤔🤔 idk which one I’ll go with

[@fabianmikita8598]

What are according to you the key differences that led to another award compared to the lian li o11 dynamic evo as they both seem similar in nature?

[@azroscoktatli]

That is a very nice CPU cooler looks amazing.

[@wrcupz8685]

Why no fans on the bottom?

[@robert0502]

Ok, so my question is...I have an Asus motherboard, Z790-H, and bought some NZXT CORE fans (7) , the single one didn't came with a controller, so I plugged the fan header into the motherboard fan pins and the RGB header into the motherboard 12V pins and yeah...after 3 seconds it was gone. And the question: The only way to connect a single fan (I mean the RGB header), is buying a controller?

[@sparda9060]

When using a RGB controller, you must read which RGB power pin on mobo you need to plug it into. theres 2 different RGB power pin connectors on mobo, your instruction from RGB controller should tell which one to plug it in. if you plug in the wrong pin, you will fry the controller lol

[@BleepingWorld]

Can you still use the other PCIE slots with vertical mount in place?

[@overclockingdemon7179]

When are you getting the Tower 200 leo?

[@evnik1427]

Not my proudest tug!! Good job keep up the good work

[@IIGhost1I]

i am very curious on the motherboard you are using is it a full ATX or a marco ATX!? need to know since i wanna install a 360mm radiator into it while having a ATX motherboard installed

[@Voltomess]

Idk I wouldn't trust this motherboard I don't know that hardware or how long it is on the market how reliable it is and all that.

[@soflybrush]

Agree the vertical GPU looks way better.

[@yusifhmdov6813]

At 100% that is a fair bit of fan noise.

[@slippynipz]

Why wouldnt you add three fans on the bottom and test the maximum capacity of it's thermals

[@DenyTheZeitgeist]

He said he doesn’t like the noise. I don’t care about the noise so I loaded mine up with max fans and it’s a beast. Cools the 7950x3d with a thermalright phantom spirit evo no problem.

[@osmandemirtas9099]

Don’t like that perforated side looks messy.

[@NAMELESS_STAIN]

whats the best fan set up for this case ?

[@embervagyok1218]

Can the gigabyte aorus waterforce x ii 360 fit in the case?

[@Games_and_Tech]

I want a all 140 case that looks as good as this one... all announced ones are ugly or just dont allow only 140mm or just support 2 sides fans... not sure why case manufacturers are like 5 years living in past 🤔

[@MejorNoLoDigo]

what if you set the side fans to pull air in, and use the rear and top to push out? you only have one fan pulling air from the back out to the three side ones.

[@erronblack308]

Yes, another comment says something similar. It’s like he doesn’t know or just wants people to hate the case.

[@warpedphreak]

'Nzxt h9 flow is cheaper than beer' 😅💀

[@justindavis7600]

weird they didnt opt for grommets. they arent expensive and protect cables.

[@gregnezz]

You've got a nice piece of glass Leo😂

[@LorrieKlemanski]

624 Cole Springs

[@rn.4635]

Why is the intel so hot?

[@mustafashams1825]

What do you guys recommend

[@ProffyChaos]

I want to know if they buy all those parts or are they provided by the manufacturers.

[@KitGuruTech]

The components used in the review were supplied by NZXT, Intel, Thermaltake and Gigabyte Leo

[@ProffyChaos]

@@KitGuruTech thanks for responding. very nice, it gives us all a chance to see someone build with these parts for real (personally won't be able to afford a build like this for real).

[@AqepbxVondx]

No pwm? That sux. How can u control thr speed of the fan?

[@zehraunsal3846]

Those cosmetic covers for motherboards look fantastic but are they going to be dust and heat traps over long term?

[@INFIN1TY-]

Better case then the lian li

[@Kabi-13]

Good morning. I've been watching you for several years. 😄I would like to point out 🤔 that an error has crept into the temperature charts and the corresponding fan speed settings. The first chart (11:34) is fine, but the second (13:23) and third (14:01) descriptions are mixed up (captions swapped) and they don't match the first. Regards. 🤗

[@KitGuruTech]

You are quite correct and well spotted. The page will likely go up on KitGuru.net on Monday and I'll fix the chart there but sadly this one is baked in here Leo

[@malphadour]

First. That Kraken is ridiculously overpriced for what is just another rebadged Asetek AIO. Considering this looks like new tooling, why would NZXT leave that top so tight between motherboard and AIO - it is clear that most users are going to be installing one in this type of case, so why not make it fit comfortably. This has long been an issue with cases, yet with the proliferation of AIO's so many seem to fail to improve this area. An extra 10mm of height is all it needs , and on that front, it looks like it needs 10mm more width, or a slight reconfiguring of the position of the central tray - looks like they are assuming most people with go with the vertical GPU mount, but for another £75 on top of £170, plus you are going to have to replace those garbage stock fans, it is starting to get very expensive for what is ultimately another 011 clone that doesn't look to be as good as an 011.

[@dominicmoass8478]

second

[@cosmindinaa]

You forgot to mention the O11D Evo comes with 0 fans included and 0 dust filters on the side intake, at roughly the same price as the H9 Flow. The included fans in the H9 Flow do their job just fine. I still prefer the H9 Flow as not all of us really care for the O11D Evo features such as inverted/upside down builds and want a clean build without the corner pillar between the glass frames. I like them both but the H9 is better imho.

[@malphadour]

@@cosmindinaa I didn't forget to mention something I wasn't talking about.

[@cosmindinaa]

@@malphadour Then next time you state it's £170, and then say it's a clone of the O11D Evo, better do your homework. Those fans are better than no fans, and you can sell them anytime if you want to. And you dont need to buy aftermarket side intake filters. Saying H9 Flow is a clone is like saying all cars that came after the 1886 Benz Patent Motor Car are clones. Good luck with that.

[@malphadour]

@@cosmindinaa What homework? It costs £40 more and has rubbish fans that nobody spending that amount of money is going to keep. Stop being a prat. It also isn't as good a case. That also doesn't need homework. Get a life.

[@fredericdelree6902]

Can ANYBODY twll mw whether this case will accept both an AIO 360mm AND a water cooler 360mm Rtx AIO? Simultaneously. I fear that the top fromt corner is going to be an issue, TIA

[@seylanerdogan2788]

Not completely sold on the glass case because it means the insides of your build are going to have to look good all of the time,

[@maestrohulk746]

i dont know, i dont think this guy has enough pc parts in the background to be trustworthy

[@Nokoman15]

The glass is nice but the whole thing is very angular would have been good to add some curves.

[@karankaya]

the glass is a bit of a double edged sword as its acting as an insulator.

[@stickyfingers9710]

Is that the largest 4080 on the market? surely it must be.

[@LR.AS2RIAS]

I would still buy 67L of beer over the H7 elite even if its "cheaper"

[@kenny10497]

it doesn’t make sense if you’re using the water cooler the temperature shell should be lower than 100 criticizing the heat that the GPU throwing out am i have h5 Elite and temp in the case all time play game is 75c