OAK@LAA: Melvin protests in 9th after obstruction

8/28/14: Bob Melvin comes out to protest in the 9th after Erick Aybar is awarded first base on a play where the umpires rule obstruction
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[@Adam130694]

GREG GIBSON THE HOME PLATE UMPIRE CALLS OBSTRUCTION!

[@alexknight1991]

And the Angels celebrating in their dugout.

[@almostfm]

You know, I really like Greg Gibson The Home Plate Umpire. I do think that Greg Gibson The Home Plate Umpire is one of the better MLB umpires. However, I will, to my dying day, believe that Greg Gibson The Home Plate Umpire got this call wrong.

[@GilesWells]

In the beginning of the play you can see Greg Gibson The Home Plate Umpire point to the first baseman when calling obstruction. It's not on Ortero. The first baseman blocked his path to first forcing the runner to deviate. That to me seems like clear obstruction. It's a weird play but I think Greg Gibson The Home Plate Umpire did in fact get this one right. (btw RedSox fan so no bias here)

[@almostfm]

The problem I have with that is two-fold: a) the runner deviated into Otero. The play was right in front of him, and he changed his line directly into the Otero, and b) that deviation didn't have to occur. Had he run into the first baseman or avoided both players, then I don't have a problem with the call. But calling obstruction on what _might_ have happened is the problem. Look at the video again frame by frame (if you pause, you can use the "," and "." keys to go frame by frame). Aybar cuts to his left, and then moves back to the right to cause the collision.. The first baseman isn't in the original path Aybar was taking until after the collision with Otero.

[@mrjimi1]

I agree that was the call made, on the 1B, but I still don't think it was valid. Like the pitcher, 1B was inside the line even after the runner hit the pitcher. I would think that obstruction there would be similar to a running out of the base line call on a runner getting hit with a thrown ball while running to first. My only reservation is that that call can only be made on a runner running to first and I am not sure whether obstruction would make use of the same lines on the field. Given the judgement call nature of this...call, I would think it would be okay to just go with that reasoning here.

[@gogiman7797]

Is that Greg Gibson the home plate umpire?

[@themegjake4000]

YoungKwang Yu 유영광 yes it is

[@Scoot_R]

YoungKwang Yu 유영광 I had a hard time recognizing him, seeing as he wasn't motioning to both players

[@gogiman7797]

Scott Rubsam I didn't see any dodgers celebrating in their dugouts

[@alex36burbidge]

He's the same one who motioned to both players.

[@alexbinkley5479]

YoungKwang Yu 유영광 Wonder if it was hit into the right field corner

[@Rectitude4U]

I think Aybar knew he would get the obstruction call with two fielders and the collision was intentional.

[@miamiwax5504]

pretty smart move

[@Rectitude4U]

+miamiwax I thought so too. I saw somebody else do this in a run down between 3rd and home, he got the call too, and the run.

[@paulwatson449]

I think he saw the ball was moving left to right and like anyone would do in a vehicle, you turn in the direction the ball came from to avoid contact. The first baseman being to the right of the P, prevents the P from continuing his movement toward the right and resulted in the runner making contact. I think this is a simple case of a runner being tagged out and not obstruction. I also don't think the runner intentionally hit the pitcher.

[@Rectitude4U]

+Paul Watson I don't know man, he's been told since LL to run in foul territory. The ball was in fair territory, the defense was in fair territory. Had he stayed in the runner's lane he would've avoided contact. Either it was a LL mistake on his part, or heads-up base running. IMHO.

[@paulwatson449]

+Frank Steen I can see how a case can be made for intentional or unintentional. Either way, since the fielder had the ball before contact, he should be out when tagged.

[@Biscuitchris7again]

Aybar was one of the smartest players the Angels ever had. He always worked every angle to get the edge for the team.

[@Compo85]

He ran into the guy with the ball. Should've been out. Bad call.

[@disneydanny2]

I agree! considering Oakland lost, the Angels should have been punished for telling the umpire not to review the play.

[@jmathieson15]

I’m a little late here but I agree. How was this even arguable? If he bumped the 1st baseman then you can argue. This was ridiculous

[@BrianSchaffer]

@@jmathieson15 Only think I argue is the 2nd fielder was standing directly in the baseline without the ball...

[@jmathieson15]

Brian Schaffer been a while. Had to rewatched the video. That shouldn’t matter. The initial contact is he bumped into the fielder with the ball. He he had hit the fielder without the ball then there’s an argument. They didn’t even touch

[@119Agent]

Obstruction on the first baseman before the collision. A fielder cannot block the basepath before thru have the ball. Umps made the correct call.

[@milwaukeejt]

For clarity: The "running lane" is the area on and between the chalk lines from 45' away, up to 1st base. The batter-runner is only restricted to the running lane when a ball is being *thrown* to 1st base from an area where the batter-runner's position interferes with the catch by the fielder at 1st base. [5.09 (a)(11)] It is irrelevant in all other situations. A runner's "base path" is a direct line between where the runner is when a tag is first being attempted and the base the runner is trying to reach. [5.09 (b)(1)] Until a tag is attempted, a base path does not exist. Now for applying the rules: All talk of the batter-runner being "out of his base path", or "out of the running lane" is irrelevant, because this play involves defensive players attempting to field a *batted ball* , and his change of course is prior to either of them fielding the ball, much less trying to tag him. When two (or more) fielders are converging on the same batted ball, *only one of them* is "protected". [6.01 (a)(10)] The other is not allowed to impede the batter-runner. In this situation, the pitcher was the "protected" fielder. The "unprotected" 1st baseman obstructed the batter-runner (prior to the ball being fielded) by forcing him to alter his course to 1st base. It does not matter whether the batter-runner veered to the left or to the right. With obstruction having occurred, the runner is now protected from any tag-out up to 1st base. After the collisions, the Plate Umpire correctly killed the play, and awarded the batter-runner 1st base. [7.06 (a)]

[@MH-Tesla]

Your response should be pinned. It's spot on and well written. Manager protest had to be for show as you can't protest a judgment call... Or is it actually possibly he doesn't know the rules?

[@MH-Tesla]

www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2014/08/29/why-oakland-as-dropped-protest-against-angels/amp/

[@lscales6131]

This is correct. It was applied correctly.

[@lscales6131]

@@MH-Teslawell technically they can protest for any reason they feel the rules “were not applied correctly” meaning they feel the umps didn’t apply to obstruction rule correctly. He was probably told he was wrong if not the next day the day after. All the umpires have to sign an affidavit telling exactly what happened in a protested game and what rule they allied and why. The manger just has to plead his case in writing I’m sure he either withdrew his protest or was told it was applied correct in the time frame I mentioned above.

[@TheCandoRailfan]

He caught the ball well before the collision, and the glove touched him. Out by a mile.

[@Thrash_74]

Taylorover9001 - The Cando Railfan the 1st baseman wasnt even in the base path until the batter ran into them

[@kurumauzamaki2731]

Jason Hogan the batter only ran into the pitcher who had the ball

[@ConnerMello2]

One and three run to grab a fair play ball, both of whom block off the lane, 1 grabs ball, and 3 bumps into 1 because they have no idea what the fuck is happening, one tags runner "out by a mile" for running out a play. Batter was running out a play, pitcher and first baseman were clearly blocking the route to first base. Pitcher had the ball, but that's negated by the interference by the first baseman running into him, blocking the base path. He's safe at first.

[@almostfm]

Except that when the catch was made, _both_ fielders were still on the grass. R1 is looking right at F1, and he cuts left and runs right into him. And when the ball is fielded, R1 is still two strides away from the collision. I think he thought that F3 was going to field the ball, and so he'd run into F1 and get an obstruction call.

[@spyderman312]

Conner Boyd he is most definitely out. He ran into the field of play. Out of the running lane.

[@WesleyAPEX]

Greg Gibson the Home Plate God!

[@BloxyPlayz]

WesleyAPEX just amazing!1!1,

[@usuallinkinultimate]

0:07 ... base path is totally free when Aybar decides to run inwards.

[@anthonygarcia8525]

So I guess he has to jump over the fielder because that's the only way to get to first without running out the baseline.

[@slpater1]

Anthony Garcia the first baseman isn't in the baseline when the runner goes left.

[@slpater1]

***** so youre saying because the runner thought he was going to enter the path its obstruction.... thats literally all youre saying is here.

[@RS-tz2zn]

nicholas williamson What he is also not pointing out is that as long as the 1B is attempting to field the ball, he has a right to be in the runner's way...it is only at the point that the pitcher fields the ball that he loses that right...You can see at the point the pitcher fields the ball that the runner had already run out of the basepath and was running straight at the pitcher and that the pitcher was actually in between the runner and the 1B

[@desmondmaisel]

Only one fielder has a right to field the ball, so by that logic if the umpire determined that fielder was the pitcher and the first baseman was in the way (I don’t think he was) then it is weirdly the right call. Weird and obscured rule that not many ppl know

[@basedbulgarian511]

Dumb call. OBSTRUCTION is the act of a fielder who, while not in possession of the ball and not in the act of fielding the ball, impedes the progress of any runner. ~ MLB Official Rules

[@basedbulgarian511]

The pitcher was. The announcers weren't looking at the rule that the umpires invoked. They called obstruction on either the pitcher or the first baseman. Since both were trying to field the ball, per the obstruction rule, the batter-runner should not have been granted first base.

[@bbarker5766]

***** you are wrong go back and watch it again because the 1st baseman never got close to the line until him and the pitcher hit while attempting to field the ball. The runner changed his path into the field and ran into the pitcher who caught the ball and actually tagged himself by doing so. The runner should have been called out not only for changing his direction into the path of the fielders but for not avoiding violent contact not to mention he ran into the pitchers glove with the ball in it. The runner could easily have went to the right of the fielders without any collision or chance of contact and like someone else stated I believe he made his move intentionally and he got one over on the umpires.

[@schelbboy22]

Samuel Marinov the correct call shouldve been obstruction on the first baseman

[@bbarker5766]

***** You and anyone else who thinks that is wrong. The runner changed his direction into the path of the fielders. Watch it again it happens before the fielders catch the ball and the right of way is to the fielder/fielders trying to make a play on the ball. The runner is supposed to avoid violent contact which he didn't do and the first baseman was in fair territory before him and the pitcher ran into each other.

[@BruinsChampions2011]

Mad Painter The runner changed direction because he was trying to avoid the contact. Whether the first baseman was in fair or foul territory it doesn't matter. The first baseman had a position going directly towards the runner. He attempts to field the ball, but doesn't and was in a position that would impede the runner. Therefore it's obstruction

[@cagedtigersteve]

I wish baseball was like the NFL where you can hear the refs give the ruling on the field.

[@usafsp22]

Your wish came true!

[@disneydanny2]

@@usafsp22 have we had any r MLB eplay rulings that were as long0winded as the kind Ed Hochuli used to give in the NFL?

[@staidenofanarchy]

The call is correct, the first basemen was directly in the basepath, and the runner was unable to get through. Yes he ran into the tag, but the first baseman forced him out of the basepath and into the pitcher. Good call by Greg Gibson the Home Plate Umpire.

[@DiMo28]

I disagree. You get obstruction when in the basepath, not when out of the basepath. If he had run into the first baseman who did not have the ball, then it would be obstruction. However, he ran into the player that actually had the ball so that obviously is not obstruction on that player. In order to get an obstruction call, you have to make contact with an obstructing player and make an attempt to get to the next base. That's basic umpiring. They muffed this call.

[@theburnetts]

@@DiMo28 Actually you don't need contact at all to get an obstruction call. For example let's say that a batter hits a ball in the gap to the outfield wall. As he is rounding first the first baseman is in his way standing near the bag. So the runner has to slow down to avoid contact and go around him. Then the runner gets thrown out at second base. The umpire can make a judgement call here of obstruction on the first baseman for being in the way of the runner and causing him to have to run around - even though there was no contact - and he can award the batter second base. In this play that is what Gibson ruled (I am guessing). He ruled that the first baseman (without the ball) was in the way of the runner and caused the runner to have to deviate and ultimately run in to the pitcher. It's tough for the first baseman but it is the correct call. The pitcher can't get called for obstruction because he has the ball (and is protected). But the first baseman can get called for obstruction because he doesn't have the ball (and is not protected).

[@73seabee]

his running lane was clear the ENTIRE play, he chose to make a hard left into the fielders. OUT!

[@theburnetts]

@@73seabee I wouldn't say his running lane was clear the entire play. As he was about a third of the way down the line it was clear that both players were probably going to be in his way. They were both moving in his direction. If you stop it at around 8 seconds just as he is running in to the pitcher you will clearly see that the first baseman was completely in his running lane.

[@simoneg8979]

Looks cut and dried to me. Ortero (sp?) had the ball and Aybar ran into him first contacting the glove that contained the ball. That would be a tag out.

[@xokocodo]

You could also see from the base runners point of view that he could have tried to beat the tag if there wasn't someone in his way on the baseline.

[@simoneg8979]

A fielder with possession of the ball can go anywhere he needs to to tag out a runner. This includes blocking said runner. It's only interference if the fielder is not in possession of the ball.

[@xokocodo]

+Simone G yeah, but what about the other fielder in the baseline that didn't have possession of the ball? That's what I was talking about. They were both next to each other block in his path.

[@simoneg8979]

xokocodo I see what you are saying. But in such a case, why leave the base path to try to avoid the fielder in front of him? Just run into him and then tagged or not, he gets the base. Since the fielder in front of him was not in possession of the ball, it would be interference which will result in the runner being awarded the base. But the runner dodged to the left running into Ortero who was in possession of the ball.

[@hfontanez98]

+Simone G It is not that simple. The 1B and the P are both coming on to the runner's path. In fact, the P bumps into the 1B pushing him more in the way of the runner. Obviously, I don't know what Aybar was thinking, but my guess is that he was trying to run around the 1B's back; thinking he's the one with the ball and to make it a harder tag. In the process, he ends up colliding with the P who happened to have the ball. I don't have a problem with the call. You can't build a wall of players around the path of the runner and expect the runner to maneuver his way around it. That said, I have a bit of a problem him running on the infield grass. I think (technically) he should've been called out. And, if it was just Aybar and the pitcher, he would've been called out. The fact that there were two players obstructing his path, in my opinion, was the reason why the ump called for obstruction.

[@finnpopken4993]

How is this so complicated? He fielded the ball and tagged him out. If t were to be interference Aybar would have to run into them before he fielded the ball.

[@ATalkingBadger]

Greg Gibson, the home plate umpire, made the right call.

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

A fielder with the ball is allowed to get in the runner's path to make a tag. The pitcher had the ball before contact was made. Terrible call.

[@Brian-js6me]

When the collision occurs all 3 players were in fair territory. The running lane in foul territory where the runner was supposed to be was completely open

[@rayray4192]

Running lane is irrelevant in the case play

[@tjskip21]

The runner (or batter-runner in this case) must avoid a fielder making a play on a batted ball. Aybar veered inside the baseline to attempt to avoid the 1st baseman (I would assume), and then because the 1st baseman didn't field the ball, he is now illegally occupying the baseline, so obstruction is called on the 1st baseman. Very difficult call, but I think they got it right. More times than not, the umpires get it right at this level. They been trained for the most unlikely of scenarios.

[@StellarWishGaming2002]

Greg Gibson, the home plate umpire motioning to first base to call obstruction...

[@CycloneGU]

Don't you bring math into this. It's about Greg Gibson, the home plate umpire.

[@Dashi18n]

+daniel kuehl Are we talking right, acute, or obtuse angles?

[@CycloneGU]

Mr. Provocative No, we're talking about Greg Gibson, the home plate umpire, and his angles on the celebrations in the dugout.

[@literalantifaterrorist4673]

+Mr. Provocative We're talking right angles

[@TheRandy5607]

The obstruction would be on the first baseman for blocking the base path. The pitcher made the play, giving him the right of way over the runner. Unfortunately we cannot hear which player was deemed by the ump to be the obstructer. Without the benefit of replay the umps called what they saw, and that was a player not involved in the play (first baseman) blocking the base path.

[@haroldbrooks5930]

The scoring of the play (error on the first baseman) tells us who the obstruction was on.

[@acaseofagetori2698]

The call was wrong. At 7 seconds: -both fielders are in fair territory -the runner is in fair territory (not in the running lane) -first contact is made (with the glove with the ball in it) Not obstruction. Out.

[@ianthomas1560]

acaseofagetori the call is right. If you actually look at where the fielders are going instead of just pausing at 7 seconds, you'll see that they're both heading towards the white line. The runner is not looking up, so he doesn't know how close the ball is or how long before it hits the ground/gets caught. All he sees is two people running towards his right. In his mind, if he sees two people running to his right, where's he going to go? Yup, his left. So many people keep on saying "he ran out of the baseline" without actually knowing what the baseline is. The baseline is a straight line drawn from the runner to the base he is trying to get to WHEN A TAG IS ATTEMPTED ON HIM. That's why the "skunk in the outfield" play works. Yes the rules are special for first base, but if you read the rules they put on screen, you'll see that the runner can run out of the three foot line to avoid the fielder fielding the ball. He is only restricted to the three foot path if the ball is being thrown to first base, which it is not. The batter could have gone wherever he wanted to as long as it was in the general direction of first base in this case, and he made the right choice. The only problem was that the ball was lower than he thought and it got caught, which caused the fielders to stop moving and the runner to collide with them. The runner is awarded first base. End of story.

[@sonofamonkeysuncle]

Ian Thomas it doesn’t matter where the fielders we’re going to be, it matters where the fielders were. The runner would have had room to make it past the fielders if he had stayed in the baseline.

[@camerongallant9802]

ian is right lol if you want to talk shit about rules online while only listening to the casters who also know anything about the actual rules. id advise you maybe to pick up the rule book (only 184 pages) or maybe even join the community of umpires like i and im sure ian is. maybe you'll actually learning something about baseball hahahaha

[@camerongallant9802]

if the first baseman would have not been there than it would have been interference as the fielder always has the right of way and he would be out, since he was contacted by both, they called obstruction on the first baseman

[@119Agent]

Umps got it right per the rules. Fielder can not block the base path before the have the ball. Runner can go where ever they want as long as they don’t hit the first baseman fielding a throw to first.

[@pacmaninchains]

You people smh....Ayabar saw the 1st baseman running toward his right so he tried to avoid that collision by going around on his left. Pitcher back stepped into aybars path and that collision is what happened.

[@edgarduchesneau2725]

I remember this play as a huge deal at the time, as this was, in my opinion, the series in the 2014 season for the A's that lost them first place in the AL west to the Angels during their fall after trading Cespedes. The A's went to lose this game and later the series, and losing first place, and as an A's fan, I was hella angry and upset with this call

[@threeifbyair]

If there is only one defensive player here making the play, the runner is pretty clearly going to be out. BECAUSE and ONLY BECAUSE the first baseman, who did not have the ball, blocked the runners established baseline (in this case it was effectively the actual white baseline) - this is properly called obstruction and the runner properly awarded first. The right of way is basically 1) Any defender with the ball can be anywhere and has priority over 2) a runner on his established baseline who has priority over 3) A defender WITHOUT the ball. Good call.

[@Alex-jr2hi]

He should've been out, he ran into the fielder that had the ball in the first place and ran into the glove...

[@BrianSchaffer]

But the fielder without the ball was standing in the base path. What was the runner to do??

[@HiiixImpakt]

it's a technicality. Aybar probably collided with the pitcher on purpose but since the first baseman was in the basepath without the ball, he was technically obstructing the runner

[@niczue49]

He ran into the fielder on purpose😂

[@disneydanny2]

Defiantly looks like it to me.

[@Eisch06]

My thought was, runner thought first baseman was going to get it so he cut in but the pitcher got it. I think if it looked like the pitcher was going to get it runner would have ran outside. Weather he was trying to hit the fielder with out the ball I dont know but was a smart move. I normally dont care for cheep plays but 2 fielders shoulder to shoulder blocking the baseline is cheep aswell

[@wolfgabe8925]

The first baseman didn't enter the base path until after aybar ran out onto the grass, the initial call should be out

[@brady13001]

+WOLFGABE respectfully thats not correct. He entered the basepath at the same time the pitcher fielded the ball. At the very moment the pitcher fields the ball the first baseman Moss is in the basepath and by rule is not making a play on the ball and is in the basepath without the ball causing Aybar to have to change direction in order to avoid a collision. That by definition is obstruction.

[@taylorstephen1000]

+Matthew N Not true, The basepath is in between the two white lines.. Moss never entered the basepath, and Aybar ran out of it, when no one was impeding his ability to run through.

[@gusswaner6099]

+Taylor Nasty as you can see Mathew n is correct

[@taylorstephen1000]

Gus Swaner Where do I see this?

[@brady13001]

+Taylor Nasty the baseline is not just between the white lines. The dirt is good enough to be the baseline. There are also times where the grass (because it's so close to the line) can also be the baseline. The runner makes the baseline as well. Sorry this coming from a professional umpire.

[@paul-baseballcollector]

Aybar ran out of the baseline. He's out for that. Don't mind the collision, just the fact that he was running where he was is enough.

[@renardmigrant]

This is a hilariously bad call. Aybar runs into the pitcher WHO HAS THE BALL and runs right into his glove. What Aybar was hoping was for the first baseman to field the ball, then run into the pitcher and it's obstruction. Because the pitcher caught it, Aybar's out as soon as he's tagged so the obstruction can't possibly count because he's out.

[@alanhess9306]

+Martin Gardner You don't know shit about baseball rules.

[@renardmigrant]

Alan Hess I take it you don't want to discuss the evidence, you'd rather insult me?

[@alanhess9306]

+Martin Gardner Clear obstruction.

[@renardmigrant]

Alan Hess no. because the pitcher has the right to field the ball, the onus is on the batter-runner to avoid contact as long as the fielder is attempting to field the ball.

[@alanhess9306]

+Martin Gardner The runner altered his path to avoid the first baseman who was in his path without the ball. Clearly obstruction.

[@Dcentral07]

No matter what side he ran too there was a fielder there thats a good call

[@MrAKMacKAY]

This is always a difficult call but the base runners path was altered by a player (who didn't field the ball) and driven into the one who was....That said the obstruction was on 3. In the base path without the ball.

[@StellarWishGaming2002]

No obstruction there, Aybar ran into Otero who had the ball. If he doesn't have the ball, it's obstruction, different story, but Aybar ran into the ball-possessing Dan Otero.

[@Falcon4224]

I'd agrue the 1st baseman obstructed, not the pitcher. He ended up in the middle of the baseline without the ball. If he wasn't there then the runner would have had a clear path.

[@ImDunzo]

The announcers are so bias

[@ronnieabigcapper6751]

I know if he went on the outside he still would have collided

[@garrenriley8161]

No shit they are the A's announcers

[@danger170388]

Maybe, but they're 100% correct. Aybar ran outside of the baseline and created the collision

[@alexchavez777]

there's no rule about having to stay inside the running lane from home to 1st EXCEPT if you interfere with a THROW. That's it. so you're misapplying that part. Aybar, as the umpire determined, ran outside to avoid the 1st baseman, who did not end up with the ball and was not protected by the umpire (here he protected the pitcher as the fielder who had a right to the ball. Therefore, obstruction. The end. By rule.

[@Bidwellz9]

but hes out

[@goldenTym]

Even if he ran in to them.. at some point you have to allow the defender to make a play on the ball.. Both pitcher and baseman were trying to make a play on the ball.. if that puts them in the base path I'm not about to be like "Oh well you got in the runners way"... cmon

[@DavidJayCovington]

Both players aren’t allowed to make the play. Only the one who actually caught it is. The other guy is obstructing.

[@wolfgabe8925]

Before the collision between Otero (pitcher) and runner (aybar), at around 0:07 Aybar is seen stepping directly out of the baseline even before first baseman (Brandon moss) collided with Pitcher (otero), at the time of the collision between Moss and Otero, it is clearly seen that aybar has a clear and direct path to first base if he stays in the baseline, but Aybar steps out of the baseline and onto the grass before the collision of moss and otero Now any idiot that plays baseball knows that if you run out of the baseline you are out It is no denying that moss was in the baseline but that was after aybar had stepped out of the baseline and before aybar collided with otero, so aybar should be called out regardless, even if otero did tag him, at that point it shouldn't even mattered If aybar had ran straight and stayed in the baseline he would've rightfully been awarded first base, at the time of aybar stepping out, he had a clear path to first base,the correct call should be out,

[@user-ml3ei1vf2j]

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[@BEATL96]

Aybar ran into the pitcher who had the ball. That's an out.

[@alanhess9306]

BeatleKid96 So you don't understand what constitutes obstruction. Runner is properly awarded first base.

[@brady13001]

BeatleKid96 I wonder if i might be able to help clear this call up. It's confusing a tough to tell because A. Gibson doesn't quite make it clear and B. Obstruction really isnt a call that gets made a ton. But the obstruction is actually called here on the 1st baseman not the umpire. And what Gibson is calling is that while not in possession of the ball the 1st baseman, NOT THE PITCHER, by standing in the baseline caused Aybar to run out of the baseline. The collision that takes place between the pitcher and Aybar isn't actually relevant. Its what your attention is drawn to obviously because its there right in front of you. But pitcher actually has possession of the ball, not the 1st baseman, and because the 1st baseman doesn't have the ball he can't be where he was. Contact between the 1st baseman and Aybar is not necessary for an obstruction call. I'm a former minor league umpire. I did some Single A ball and Independent Pro ball. Hope that helps.

[@schelbboy22]

BeatleKid96 avoiding the first basemen who didn't. Obstruction

[@RS-tz2zn]

Alan Hess ***** Obviously you do not know the definition of Obstruction.... Rule 2.00 OBSTRUCTION is the act of a fielder who, while not in possession of the ball and not in the act of fielding the ball, impedes the progress of any runner. First of all the pitcher had the ball so he could not have been obstructing. 2nd of the all, the 1st baseman was in the act of trying to field a ball. This is no different than when a shortstop comes up to field a ball and gets in the way of a runner going from 2nd to 3rd. The responsibility is on the runner to get out of the way of the ball and the fielder. What if this had been a popup on the first base line...would the field have had to get out of the runners way until he had passed before he camped himself on the first base line to catch the ball??? Of course not!

[@alanhess9306]

Ryan Shaffer One more time dipshit. Two fielders cannot be protected. You cannot have the pitcher fielding the ball and the first baseman attempting to field the ball. That is an idiotic argument. The moment the runner deviated because F3 was in his path we have obstruction. You do know that MLB denied the protest which kind of proves your argument is wrong.

[@kybathebalance]

I agree with the call, there was no where to go

[@austinjones7452]

He has the right to go out of the baseline on this play, so he should've been given first base

[@brianschlaf4463]

Agree he was trying to move out of the Way!

[@JackYoung28]

Cmon he clearly did it on purpose to get the base. He could've ran to the right but instead ran left into the players. Secondly it should've tn have been obstruction because otero had the ball and ayabar ran into otero making it a tag play and ayabar would be out.

[@Falcon4224]

+Jack Young I don't care if it's intentional or not, but this was interference by the 1st baseman, not the pitcher (despite what the commentators say). You can protect the pitcher because he fielded the ball, but 1st ended up in the middle of the baseline without the ball. That's obstruction in my view.

[@jeffmansfield914]

Both fielders were moving from the inside toward the outside. I believe that the runner juked inside under the impression that the fielders' motion would continue toward the outside. He was attempting to dodge them by running to the left as they were moving to the right. Unfortunately, they suddenly stopped and remained in that spot. Yes, the pitcher had the ball, but I wouldn't call it a tag because, even though he wasn't in the baseline, the other guy was. The runner was forced to go out of the baseline by the obstruction of the 1st baseman, he dodged inside, because the fielders were in motion toward the outside.

[@meh-_-7331]

I think the right call was made. Had the pitcher not run into the first baseman, it could've been different. Aybar ran in because the fielders were moving out. Even though the pitcher tagged him after the ball was caught, he hit the first baseman causing him to stop in his tracks. He had nowhere to go. It was poor communication by the fielders also.

[@danielgeraghty2136]

momentum= mass × velocity and yet the guy who is running gets knocked down by the guy who is standing still?

[@mikaelmusico]

Good call; notice how first baseman Moss forces Aybar to run out of the base line thus colliding with the pitcher. If the first baseman wasn't there and he just ran into the pitcher (whom of which had the ball), he would of been obviously out. However, even though the pitcher does have the ball, the first baseman FORCED Aybar to change his direction to the base. And the obstruction ruling states that if a fielder who does not have possession of the ball (in this case it was first baseman Moss) causes a runner to move or collide, it is obstruction. This is a clear obstruction call. In simple: Aybar collided with the pitcher because Moss forced him to, thus being an obstruction ruling.

[@slpater1]

Watch the video. The runner changes direction when no one is in the baseline. He isn't forced to run that way he doesn't know where the ball is and thinks they're running across the baseline.

[@RS-tz2zn]

***** No the rule does not state that the fielder has to have possession to have the right of way with a runner...it just states that he has either be in possession of the ball or just be attempting to field the ball...please see rule 7.09(I). So, the 1B had the right to be in the runner's way, all the way until the pitcher secured the ball...at this point, the 1B was not in the runner's way...in fact the pitcher was actually between the 1B and runner at this point...please see seconds 44 and 45 in the video...

[@alanhess9306]

Ryan Shaffer Not true. Everything you are saying is wrong.

[@RS-tz2zn]

Alan Hess What am I wrong on? I cited the rule reference...please don't shoot your mouth off unless you have a reference in the rule book...you just make yourself look foolish...

[@alanhess9306]

Ryan Shaffer Your rule reference is wrong. You are looking like the dumb ass. I know more about the rules than you will ever know. Come back and see me after you have umpired a couple thousand games like I have.

[@d-real-moop7824]

it's not fielder interference if the fielder or in this case fielder's are making a reasonable attempt at fielding the ball, the ball was caught before he was there, and he should've been called out!

[@Rowgue51]

The problem with that is that there are two fielders involved in this play, and the one without the ball was the one that blocked the baseline. You absolutely cannot block the base path without possession of the ball period.

[@krisneasham9082]

It was Obstruction on the first baseman for hindering the runner without possession of the ball. You can protect one fielder as fielding the ball. The pitcher is the one who is protected since he fielded the ball.

[@Rowgue51]

***** That's exactly what the runner did. He attempted to avoid a fielder he assumed was making a play on the ball. Except the guy obstructing him wasn't making a play on the ball. Hence the correct call was made.

[@krisneasham9082]

***** Did a fielder not fielding the ball obstruct the batter? Yes or No?

[@Rowgue51]

Kris Neasham There's no point trying to explain it to him. He is apparently incapable of comprehending that when the initial obstruction occurred what happened after that is irrelevant.

[@diichertz1]

"OUT". "Out of the baseline."

[@alanhess9306]

diichertz1 Wrong.

[@yourthighness273]

diichertz1 There is no baseline until a tag is attempted.

[@kyleraymer5581]

TheGodlyBuddha Clevenger Ok, then he was tagged out.

[@alanhess9306]

Kyle Raymer Tagged out after he was obstructed?? Nice try.

[@kyleraymer5581]

No before he was obstructed. Unless you are saying the pitcher obstruted him? Which by rule did not happen. I mean that is who got in his way and who he was trying to avoid and eventually ran into.

[@wls200]

Two defensive players can not occupy the basepath at the same time. First basemen is the obstruction as he blocks the path of the runner who can not avoid the tag (possible or not) by using the full width of the basepath. Either defensive player could have caught the ball and the other would have been in the right place and the right time to cause the obstruction. Good call.

[@09AtvRacer]

Should not have been interference in my opinion. Neither of the fielders were in the running lane that the batter is supposed to use on his way to first base. Even if he expected one to go out there, he should have ran into him in the running lane.

[@alanhess9306]

@@09AtvRacer You're right, it wasn't interference, it was obstruction. The running lane is irrelevant on this play. Umpires made the correct call.

[@rcbrannon57]

1. a base runner cant interfere with a fielders attempt to field the ball 2. the batter was out when he was tagged out.

[@alanhess9306]

The batter-runner was obstructed. Good call.

[@Liam-Carlson]

Greg Gibson the home plate umpire made the call

[@Dyslexo]

Dude he intentional ran into them if he stayed in the base line he wouldn’t have hit them he should have been called out

[@alanhess9306]

The runner does not have to stay in the "baseline". You know nothing about baseball.

[@ericeric081693]

Yes you can still see flopping in baseball.

[@PhantomHT1320]

am i the only one that saw it this way, the runner sees the pitcher running from his left to his right, IF the 2 A's didnt bounce off each other, both A's players would have been on the baseline or to the right of it, THAT is why the runner ran into the grass, BUT, the 2 A's bounced off each other which put the pitcher back into the runners path in the grass. If the 2 A's didnt run into each other the runner would have made it to 1st base.

[@disneydanny2]

the way I see it, Aybar should have been called OUT and the game ends right there as a 4-0 A's win via forfeit (the Angels would HAVE to forfeit the game since Mike Sciocia wouldn't allow the umpires to review the play

[@mikepoore1705]

The fielder had the ball and was in position to make a tag. The batter-runner should have been called out. The BR was outside the running lane but that’s moot! He was legally tagged out. No way was this obstruction! This call was blown six ways to Sunday. The A’s manger properly protested the misapplication of the rule.

[@kokoken1]

For what it's worth, I think obstruction is the wrong call if it's being called on the pitcher because Otero is the one with the ball. By definition, obstruction is a defensive violation by a fielder who doesn't have the ball. Given where Aybar is, you can't call the first baseman for obstruction, either, because that's not the one with whom Aybar made contact. And "out of the baseline" isn't a valid argument, either, because Aybar has the right to make his own path to first base.

[@chrisgast]

Aybar ran into him!!! He should be out just on that stupidity alone, when you run into the guy that has the ball. If he would've stayed on the base line, it would've been better. But he went off the baseline. Any player in his right mind would've watched where the ball ended up (in who's glove) and avoid that person. Aybar didn't do that.

[@Thekingcmk]

Whats the point of replay if you dont use it? When its a call the Ump clearly gets wrong and could "potentially" cost a team a game it should be able to be reviewed and overturned. Even if its not the umps doing it, be like football where you have officials in the press box that call down. The hilarious part is people talk about a protest like its something that works when it doesn't.

[@mattwilliams222]

This idiot announcer keeps saying "if he runs outside" well if he goes outside he just runs into first baseman instead and same thing happens, except then he doesn't even get tagged so there's no way to get an out. And this is why it's obstruction, because only one player is "protected" in fielding the ball.

[@dogpatch75]

Running lane is irrelevant since this did not involve F3 receiving a throw. No obstruction on the defense because the batter-runner was retired prior to the collision when F1 made the catch. No interference on the batter-runner because F1 caught the ball before the collision and the collision had no effect on the catch.

[@wastedzeus1260]

Like, wtf. The last three videos I watched about this kind of stuff hasn't even shown what officially happens......

[@robertbragg9364]

This is when league officials need to step in. The fields did nothing wrong. They both were making a play on the ball, the hitter ran into the fielder making the play on the ball, the fielder maintains the ball so the runners out. Seems simple to me. Gibson is just another ump using bad judgment and ruining the game of baseball.

[@El3ctronicGeek]

say the ball is not bounced into the path of the runner. a fielder catches the ball and runs in the way of the runner, tagging him out in the process. Is the runner out? If so, the obstruction call is unnecessary. If not, does intent factor in somehow? if it does, the angels runner is out, and safe otherwise. However, in this case, the runner deviated from his pathway into the fielder with the ball; He is out. In all situations, he is out. Seems pretty clear cut to me.

[@thehALomolov2]

The runner should be out, their replay at 4:04 clearly how's that neither the pitcher or first baseman are in the lane, thereby not fielding in the way of the runner. Making the exception for the runner leaving his lane not apply thereby making the runner out for simply leaving the lane... No one was legally interfearing by fielding in the lane.

[@thechance__]

As a former LL umpire, I had this exact type of play happen in front of me in an all-star game. I don't remember what I called but I'm pretty sure I was wrong.

[@disneydanny2]

even if you were *RIGHT* the oposing team would likely disagree with you.

[@xaiverbeaudin6766]

Yawn aybar purposely runs into the pitcher should of ran into the 1st baseman... But he runs into the pitcher who caught the ball he's tagged he's out no obstruction aybar is just dumb

[@toonces4x]

If the fielders have the ball they could block the basepath. Aybar ran out of the basepath and ran into the fielder with the ball. Two reasons for him to be out. But since umpires are stupid they made a bullshit call.

[@chunkb9346]

Obviously a bad call, base runners path is clear. Ran outside the line (which is fine for a few feet) and avoided the clear path. L2Ump

[@sluggers3128]

He caught the ball. It doesn't matter if it was obstruction in my opinion, HE CAUGHT THE FUCKIN BALL.

[@MichaelSimmons.]

Terrible call. The announcers actually got it right this time. The runner ran three feet into the field of play, to cause the collision. Both fielders were in play, so there was no obstruction to the base path, where the hitter should have been running.

[@phsyco6667]

This is why there is controversy. Aybar ran out of the baseline. But he was trying to avoid the first baseman, but in return he ran into the pitcher. I think it is obstruction because since the first baseman is in the baseline,the baseline extends three feet aybar took the three feet but in doing so he ran into the pitcher. So the pitcher was in the extended baseline so it is obstruction

[@scotts7453]

so the batter-runner runs into a fielder, who is holding the ball in glove, while in fair territory...how is that not just a tag play? batter-runner is out, put out is 1- unassisted.

[@leftnutdangler8320]

Both gloves go next to each other making it look like moss has the ball, that's why Aybar ran inside. Announcers need to use common sense every once in a while.

[@eliX0r]

wrong call, runner is out for running inside the base paths 45ft line to cause a collision. rule clearly states run outside the 3 foot path to avoid a fielder fielding a batted ball..

[@kalbossa]

Neither pitcher nor first baseman stepped foot on the dirt by the foul line, much less in foul territory before the ball was caught and tag applied. Terrible call

[@John-nk6fv]

He’s out ball beat him to the glove he didn’t switch directions until right when he got the ball.

[@vincentkrych2158]

The fielder has all the right to catch the ball first, it is the runner to avoid the tag So the runner should be out. If I was the runner I would try to run right into the First baseman without the ball. That would be obstruction and the runner then should be safe

[@fhfs]

Batter should be out ran outside of the baseline, Anybody can obviously tell he ran into them because he knew he wasn't gonna make it so he tries to get a obstruction call.

[@planetpeter917]

There's no fucking right call in this play wtf R u supposed to do

[@LastAlbino22]

there are two bodies in the runners path, even if one is fielding the other isnt which is obstruction

[@user-ml3ei1vf2j]

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[@JosephJamesScott]

The pitcher catches the ball, the runner runs into the pitchers glove, falls down, they award the batter 1st base

[@stevedandy973]

That was BLATANT INTERFERENCE by the batter-runner. intentionally veered toward the fielders. Besides, I saw a TAG BEFORE the collision. So, the batter-runner is OUT now matter how you look at it.

[@alanhess9306]

The batter-runner veered to avoid the first baseman. That is obstruction.

[@tuckermacwilliam135]

I am an umpire and that's not obstruction he does have to stay in the base path and he would have had to hit the player without the ball with them attempting to make a play they have a right to that spot as well he is out

[@alexh8613]

How is this obstruction??? The fielder has the right to field the ball. The runner has to stop or completely avoid the fielder.

[@lhallmexico]

I don't think this should have been interference for two reasons. 1. Otero had the ball and was the one to run into the baserunner. Therefore, it can be argued that he was making a play on the baserunner. If the one without the ball had run into him, it would be obstruction. 2. Aybar left the basepath because he thought the first baseman was in the way. He wasn't technically avoiding him, he was prematurely avoiding where he thought the first baseman would be. If he had continued forward and then run into the first baseman or avoided him later, it should have been obstruction as well. Seeing as he was early AND tagged by the player with the ball, I think it should not have been obstruction.

[@dwolfg]

+Lukas Hall wrong as soon as the first baseman caused the batter to change directions by being in the baseline while not in the act of fielding the ball, there is obstruction.

[@LiamPatrickLynch]

Both the pitcher and 1b have a right to attempt a play. It the pitcher hadn't made the play, the 1st baseman was exactly where he would have needed to be to make the play. It's not obstruction if they're making an honest attempt at a play, and clearly neither of them knew where the other was. Just because 1b didn't make the play doesn't automatically mean he was obstructing. If a bunt gets laid down half way to first, the first baseman is allowed to run down the first base line to make the play. This is no different and the tag was still made. I have no idea why this is so hard for people to understand. Runner has every right to leave the base path but he is also clearly tagged out.

[@alanhess9306]

Either the pitcher and 1b will be protected when fielding the ball, not both. Once the runner altered his path to avoid the fielder without the ball, we have obstruction. Good call.

[@michaelgraffis8866]

Greg Gibson, the home plate umpire, wasn't motioning to both feilders, and the angels, celebration in their dugout

[@cjr1881]

I didn’t see the pitcher get the ball at first so I thought it was interference but now that I see he had the ball there is no interference. Out!!!!!

[@chasecaron1709]

It's an out out he ran into the guy with the ball and He ran out of the base path. If he stays in the base path yes it's obstruction he's safe but he ran into the guy with the ball

[@jakethesnake9860]

He was out and cheated by running outside of the line and trying to knock the ball loose he should have been ejected for that!

[@coltino99]

if youre that home plate umpire, how do u see he didnt charge the pitcher on purpose in an attempt to get obstruction called?

[@painekiller12]

The first baseman is allowed to "obstruct" the basepath if he is attempting to field the ball and at that point its the runners job to avoid the collision, not the first baseman. Not to mention the first baseman wasn't even obstructing the base path until the collision happened as well as the fact that the runner collided with the pitcher who had the ball. It should have been a tag out. The runner obviously tried for a collision. You can even see him looking back to ask for a call. The umpires got it wrong this time.

[@DavidJayCovington]

Only one player can obstruct the base path while fielding. The guy who gets the ball. The other guy gets called for obstruction. QED

[@richardabram4596]

only one fielder is protected from obstruction during a play for fielding a batted ball. The umpire determines which fielder is protected in his judgement. Very Simple call considering the 1b was camped for the play on the ball

[@edsimnett]

wrong rule- that concept relates to runner interference.

[@traetuusplays8987]

dude looked like he thought the pitcher was going to cross the baseline so he was gonna Juke left, not intentionally done, he had eye contact with the pitcher he didn't think the first basemen would follow up the catch and would play first for the quick toss out.

[@traetuusplays8987]

moral of the story the black guy was a better player and the two fielders were stoned for a moment xD

[@thomasanderson215]

One of the stupidest calls I've seen in my thousands of games watched, played and coached.

[@rayanrahmani9838]

It’s not obstruction because he ran towards the defender with the ball it would be if he ran into the other defender, anyways this whole crisis could’ve been averted if the home plate umpire motioned to both players and had the dodgers celebrating in their dugout

[@alanhess9306]

Wrong. Once he alters his path to avoid a fielder without the ball, we have obstruction.

[@tdogg46142]

Up the baselines, the fielder has the rightbof way in fair territory, runer has right of way in foul territory

[@bobberk1903]

108 the other side was block with the other guy u wuld of said the same thing if he went the other way too

[@xxdamonxx77]

Can someone explain what it means for the manager to protest the game? I don't understand.

[@ww3586]

hes trying to avoid them but the guys didint move further down the two guys started the collision

[@visionautorebuild7847]

first baseman was not even close to the line he had plenty of space to run using the extended line