Finn the Humans vs. Disability Tropes

[@linnywines8014]

You forgot that Fin is also colorblind. It doesn’t have much to do with anything most of the time, but there was one episode centered around him needing to find something red for Marceline to feed off of and thinking he found a ruby, just for everyone to tell him it was an emerald. He ignored them over and over again, insisting that he was right until near the end of the episode when Jake pointed out that it was, in fact, an emerald and that it was Fin’s color blindness that had him seeing it as a ruby. It showed how early Fin was particularly determined to handle things on his own or with minimal help and his refusal to accept or acknowledge any of his limitations.

[@iamsad9107]

I completely forgot about that

[@cyreptical]

Oh my gosh so flame princess was probably like really green bahaha

[@SilentEchoMedia]

@@cyreptical well, he couldnt see green so flame prince probably would be a brighter red to him in comparison.

[@ahdvai2098]

It's subtle, but I love how that episode puts the viewer in Finn's shoes by showing the gem as he experiences it. Would've been so easy to make a colour blindness joke without this aspect, but instead it subverts the media tendency to portray disability/disabled people through the external lense of those around them, and insures the gag isn't at the expense of any colourblind viewers! (by not building the joke from the idea that viewers "obviously" can see it's the wrong colour)

[@stm7810]

Yeah, I love that, and I'm pretty sure there are other episodes where his colour blindness matters, I even think he once dropped the red demon sword on grass and it took him a few pats on the ground to grab it.

[@lachlanmccormick3486]

In regards to your analysis of Finn's "truest self", that's actually always been one of my favourite character traits of Finn. I love how universally, by destiny or fate or whatever, Finn's disability has always been a core and inevitable part of him. Every alternate timeline, Farmworld Finn, his past life Shoko, Pillowworld Finn, old Finn from Dungeon Train, even when he fantasised about himself in an earlier episode I don't remember the name of, they all came with the missing arm. All these little bits really reinforced in my young mind that this is how he's supposed to be, it's normal.

[@FernTheRobot]

the episode in question is called "Mortal Folly", where Finn is meditating with PB and having a brief vision of a future self. Also that future self has appeared in Adventure Time Comic before.

[@GoronTico]

I know this is a conversation about disability, but can we take a moment to appreciate how pure its for finn to be his truest self already? Golb could eat nothing away from him because he is already whole, and that is just beautiful

[@duykhangtran4406]

I guess that's mean Shermy won't be able keep his harm for long huh.

[@Moonie326]

I agree and reading this comment got me choked up 🥺💖

[@frimi8593]

Would like to add that in the “mountain of Matthew” we see both Finn’s and Lemongrab’s “truest self” and in Finn’s he once again does not have his right arm. This episode takes place after breezy and before he would lose his arm again. Even if some of the writing team made the mistake of giving his disability a “quick fix” it is clear that Finn as an amputee has not left their minds

[@jordanhansen5934]

Fun fact: the writers always intended to have Finn lose his arm and have a be replaced with a prosthetic arm. They all agreed that this would happen while they were first designing the show. By their own admission in one of the feature commentaries Finn losing his arm was inevitable and no amount of magic tomfoolery would ever be able to bring Finn's arm back permanently.

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

We also see it in basically all of the scenes of Finn's far future like in the infinite train episode and in his own imagination

[@stxrryd]

as a disabled person, a prosthetic is a necessary accommodation that should be a right for disabled people and not a privilege. we fight very hard to destigmatize prosthetics and medical equipment. there's nothing shameful about wanting accommodations. that being said, i don't take offense to finn keeping his prosthetic arm on while sleeping because he's a little kid and it probably helps him embrace his predicament. i see my wheelchair as part of part of me and a life saver, not as this inconvenient part of me. i don't feel "less" disabled with my wheelchair.

[@bleddynwolf8463]

i really like that his arm didn't grow back in Golb, it really shows that hes internalized his disability and accepted it as himself

[@OgBadlaws]

Im pretty sure it is because simon and betty were made that way through magic while finn was at his base just a human missing his arm naturally. Could be wrong but that is just a theory a cartoon theory.

[@alexjewett7455]

I figured it was because it was a physical injury, and not a magical injury.

[@cryptid_lives_here6883]

I can picture so so so clearly a cold open in an episode where Jake is working on smtg and he asks Finn “Hey, bro, can ya gimme a hand here?” And Finn goes “Yeah, Jake, I gotchu!” And his prosthetic falls into frame and Jake looks over, recognizes and goes “Dude! Seriously!” And Finn, giggling, sits down next to him to look at the thing Jake is doing and puts his arm back on, asking “What are you doing anyway?” And they get into what the thing they’re going to be doing for the day! It literally would have been so so very easy!!!

[@Take_2.2]

Oh, there are so many opportunities for humor about it. Finn (trying to move a heavy table) Jake: Hey, do you need a hand? Finn: *puts the table down and takes off his arm* yes. Or even something like: Episode's villain: *grabs Finn's arm* HAHA, I GOT YOU NOW! Finn: *takes off his arm and walks away* Episode's villain: Aww.

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

Villain grabs his arm Finn removes his arm drops to the ground and flying jump kicks the villain

[@hellofriend545]

Look, totally fair and true to say “people don’t sleep with their prosthetics” but I guess I always just headcanoned that Finn never took it off for reasons within the show’s own logic. Like, he’s a teenage boy with an advanced robot arm. Why take it off, it’s cool, and taking it off reveals a stump that only tends to be revealed in moments of crisis bc it’s so representative of his trauma, both diagetically and symbolically within the narrative. Finn’s stump reminds him of his loss and vulnerability. His robot arm reminds him of his friends (mainly PB) who came to his aid and care for him. I don’t know if PB directly told him he could take it off to sleep, some people lack basic common sense about stuff like that (I could name names lol from my own life, including me). He might just authentically find it more comfortable to wear this high tech arm all the time too. To me it was a marker of him being a teenager with a cool robot arm, but also a marker that he has trouble fully embracing exposing his trauma completely by being too involved with maintenance of his arm stump. That’s why seeing it exposed in Obsidian made me go 🥺 bc it means he’s maturing enough to take better care of himself

[@matthewplays7232]

Plus I'm fairly sure he couldn't take it off.

[@chemcalreaction]

i agree 100%

[@oshkeet]

Plus, there's also an artistic obsession in cartoons with having a character's iconic "look" be on 24/7 for marketing/recognizably reasons. Finn generally never took off his prosthetic arm or the same reason he doesn't wear a different color hat and shirt, even when that'd be realistic too.

[@ThatPyukumuku]

but he lost his robot arm at the end of the last episode, and was fine with it in the epilogue

[@hellofriend545]

@@ThatPyukumuku Yeah, bc he was at peace with himself and stuff. Just resting and junk. Didn't need to be the "armed and ready" hero. Just vibing

[@fancysmancyk.i.41]

Another thing to mention is that, even if it isn’t entirely relevant, Finn’s past live Shoko was also an amputee as well as the farm world version of Finn.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Finn is more destined to loose his arm than Aquaman.

[@fl3m1n9o4]

as well as pillow world Finn and a future version of him from another episode

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

​@@fl3m1n9o4infinite train episode as well

[@manda1958]

The mention of his truest self made me think of how he's like this in multiple timelines, in his past life, in the pillow world, even just in a fantasy one time. Even before the finn we follow lost his, lots of versions of Finn lost their arms. It's inevitable and part of him, not just something in this timeline.

[@nyandoesthings]

Even in the dead world, where he can be any version he wants to be, he chooses to be the younger version of himself after losing his arm

[@tobiasj1630]

I feel like Finn not taking his prosthetic off for so long is honestly kinda representation in itself. He's a kid, he went through something traumatic and he's had an arm his whole life up until that point. You can imagine how terrifying that could be, and how taking off his prosthetic to care for it could stir bad emotions I went through a time period of having to use a cane cause my joint disease got to a point where I needed one, I had surgery and no longer need one anymore but it was still a whole different experience. There were moments where I was ashamed of it and just looking at it bothered me, getting harassed at school for it made me hate it even when I could acknowledge that I needed it. Even though I know there's always a chance I'll need it again in the future because well my joint disease isn't going anywhere, I get scared of it sometimes because of what happened when I needed it. I get being afraid of appearing "different" and refusing to handle something appropriately or even neglecting it because of that fear. Like taking off a prosthetic to let your skin breath, clean it etc. Especially as a kid or teen. I loved seeing him accept it and them showing him taking it off more often as he got older though and just being himself, disability and all, in front of everyone without negative emotions. So yeah, I like that his acceptance of his disability was gradual, especially subtly. It feels very real and how someone his age would handle going from not disabled to suddenly disabled with such a traumatic experience That assault seen, even if it was a damn fade to black, was effing horrifying tho! 😭 The way he was so quiet and the silent lifting of his blanket. This show is amazing with how it shows things and how real emotions are but damn man Q-Q

[@tape-6]

in weak defense of breezy i do remember when i was younger, i read an interview or tumblr post where a member mentioned that the arm being brought back was a studio mandate for merchandising reasons, so they had to write it back in and tried to use breezy to force it back. takw this with a grain of salt as i read it years ago and the point just stuck in my brain, so i could be misremembering, but it does line up with finn losing his arm again after the show became less popular and had more creative freedom. i still...to put it mildly REALLY dont like the breezy episode and agree with all your points but i cant help but feel more pity for the crew. absolutely great video!

[@Oakwyrm]

Honestly that is depressingly easy to believe, studios really do just come in and fuck shit up terribly whenever the fuck they want to. And thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it ^^

[@ryanmaclean1720]

In the part about Finn taking the arm off, I just kinda assumed it worked like automail in FMA, directly attached to the nervous, skeletal, and muscular systems and therefore it can’t be taken off at least not easily. I could be wrong though I haven’t seen all of adventure time. With the maintenance part, it’s princess bubblegum, that arm is probably the most over engineered thing to exist. It could probably perform maintenance checks on Finn. I’m not convinced that that arm is no longer functional after 1000 years

[@asmodeusguys4472]

Ehh, the lore behind science in adventure time is kinda weird. Stuff that shouldn't be possible just happens. I'm pretty sure that the arm itself isn't actually attached to him in the conventional sense.

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

It comes off pretty easy in the finale but then again it's the jaws of a embodiment of chaos who destroys worlds and killing Finn's kids

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

Plus it's basically a given that every times Finn's in PBS lab she's done checks on it to make sure he's not caused it to explode

[@hellofriend545]

Also totally hate that LSP is a weird sexual predator. She was best as a light gimmick. Her annoying voice is kinda in the same boat as Hooty-just people involved on the show voicing characters as a joke. LSP cracked me up bc I knew it was Pendleton being a doofus behind the microphone. Never liked episodes that focused on her. Also Idk if you’re aware but Hooty is voiced by Alex Hirsch doing a shorty Mickey Mouse impression. I immediately loved the character and the vitriol Hooty receives makes me love this silliness even more. A+

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Its really weird how so many other characters grow throughout the show, even some of the villains but LSP even at her rawest moments is still pretty much an asshole and people Just tolerate it. Hell Her inability to change is pretty much used as a solution for the elements story. Like i’m not sure how much more insufferable you can get. She probably stopped being consistently funny for me by the third season

[@riverstyx7251]

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 personally have always hated her. First few episodes that she was introduced I could only shiver and think “Eugh I used to know terrible people like you.” My favorite episodes were when she’s being taken down a notch. It’s personally satisfying to see her be given a reality check by a raccoon who accurately describes her as a mooching pest.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@riverstyx7251 I think one of my favorite episodes that involved her was the one where the tiny villagers set an angry mob on her levitating ass after she spent weeks pillaging their food enough fir them to believe she was a monster. That and calling out her BS apology. Or maybe when she’s vane and stupid enough to get herself eaten by a bunch of zombies just to get lip enhancements.

[@MilloSpiegel]

Hooty is kind of my favorite character aber Season 2A. I hate the House of Mouse giving the series only 2 seasons and a season 3 consisting of Specials

[@jsk-art]

I think one of the worst things about LSP is she doesn't face consequences for her actions. At least, not nearly as much as she should. Aside from her, there are two types of "bad" characters. There are the ones who face consequences and realize they have to change, and there are the ones who face consequences, but still are determined to remain the same. Either way, their actions are clearly shown as bad by other characters and they're still confronted on them. But for LSP, even for some of her most atroctious behavior, isn't called out. She never even gets the opportunity for change OR for acknowledging her behavior is bad but she doesn't care (and the consequences for willingly being bad). Not only is LSP a "bad" character in terms of her morals and behavior, but she's a bad "bad" character. Pretty much every other character is very well-written, so I have no idea what made them drop the ball so hard on LSP

[@WelcomeToSpayne]

Finn losing his arm really connected to me. I was born without one of my hands, and I struggled with finding representation in media. After all, there weren't any magical girls missing body parts. But seeing Finn with his prosthetic just... floored me. Because this was the first time I'd ever seen a disabled adventurer who wasn't slowed by it. Yes, he struggled with it. Yes, he was pissed about it. But he gave me something I'd always wanted. 10/10 adventure time

[@FantasmaNaranja]

12:22 i mean, considering PB isnt really a prosthetics expert but closer to a robotics/biologist/mad-scientist she likely just hooked up the metal arm to finn's nerve bundles hence he probably cant just remove it to go to sleep. but that's just an excuse most likely the show runners just didnt even think about it

[@liviwaslost]

And maybe because Finn is a teenager and thinks it’s really cool .

[@janinebelleestrada7096]

Well its a cartoon and it doesn't really need to complicate a lot of stuff. Because the more you convolude into details the show will lose it's purpose because it's gonna have a whole arc just to explain it which is why some anime are just too boring to watch because of exposition

[@FantasmaNaranja]

@@janinebelleestrada7096 that argument is as dumb and old as time every theory made on any form of media that's ended can be resumed in the same way "it's just a [Media] it's already ended whatever you theorize doesnt matter" people just like to theorize because its fun man, that's it, they dont expect the authors to go on a fifty book long explanation for every single thing so we just fill in the blanks ourselves saying its just a cartoon and you dont need to complicate stuff is just saying you should mindlessly consume everything presented to you and not think about it once you're done

[@oferarubas]

I'm so disappointed that you didn't mention the metal arm malfunctioning and obliterating fern. I can't even count the number of times that technology that was supposed to help with my ADHD or dyslexia malfunctioned and ended up F-ing me. I'm pretty sure it's like that with all accessibility technology. Anyways I feel like it was a big moment and deserved to be mentioned in an analysis of the ark. actually so was the candy arm malfunctioning, because that was what kicked off the- "baby is building a tower into space" episode

[@SystemofEleven]

"Not even the most basic, 'Need a hand?' joke." Reminds me of a short comic I saw a long time ago in a meme group (don't ask me which group or even what category, because I'm in basically all of them). A few military buds are sitting and complaining about how their vet insurance doesn't meet their needs. One person comments that they wish they could transition, but it's not covered at all, and would cost an arm and a leg. The other two look at each other, and then in the next panel the trans person is holding two prosthetics making a -_- face while the other two laugh sans their respective limbs. ...Gods, I need to find that one again and re-share it everywhere.

[@moonstrifflimestone5493]

Gosh, that sounds like a really funny joke!/gen

[@borealiscreep7436]

Sendddd

[@ILoveHandles]

I think LSP is supposed to represent the phenomenon of genuinely shitty people occasionally doing something that is legitimately good without becoming a better person in any meaningful way.

[@cactusbuds2979]

I feel like the issue with the LSP make-out scene is that the show doesn't acknowledge the trauma that may come out of that, especially from Finn’s perspective.

[@ralphyvarela9535]

Another thing about LSP, in the scene where Fin lays there in shock a flower petal falls. Idk about you but I take that Fin was “deflowered”. The fact that they added that is questionable.

[@heathertulip2389]

Plus the “fade to black followed by the subject covering or cleaning themself” has been how authors communicate rape while keeping things pg for literally centuries. It’s the only thing I remember from being forced to read Tess of the D’Ubervilles in school, is a terrible book and no one should ever read it. Bad writing, bad story, bland characters that a bunch of bad stuff happens to, written like someone rambling while half-asleep.

[@JoshucaVA]

I agree that Breezy is by far the worst, that episode was awful! Also yo, you should've talked about the allegory with Finn's literal Phantom Limb! Oh also, I think it might kinda makes sense for Finn to sleep with his prosthetic considering that he can feel it, right? Maybe not sanitary, but Finn is also not known for being sanitary, y'know? I'm pretty sure he doesn't brush his teeth.

[@zetahurley294]

also adventurer in a world with monsters and stuff might be more wanting to be constantly ready, especially after the time Marceline grabbed him and flew him somewhere while he was still in his sleeping bag

[@LightningStryke27]

I'm pretty sure that episode is where I dropped the series too.

[@JoshucaVA]

@@LightningStryke27 Hated the episode. But the only time I ever really fell off the show for any amount of time was Chips & Ice Cream. I just got bored and my brain moved on to other things.

[@JoshucaVA]

@@revimfadli4666 OH YEAH, he does!!

[@Mkronox]

Pretty sure the worst episode is the one with the weird art and the waterpark. That thing was horrifying to witness

[@nerdcuddles7731]

I have the feeling if the prosthetic is attached to the nerves which seems to be what its like because of the level of control. Though I am probably very wrong because I'm not an amputee

[@tropeadope4532]

There is irl tech which lets electrodes placed on the stump of an amputated limb to receive and interpret the signals they send. It's obviously used in electric prosthetic hands. I'd imagine Finn's arm uses the same tech just rather more advanced.

[@dane1382]

@@tropeadope4532 exactly! they do have prosthetics that use BMIs to control movement. They also have surgical procedures that bring the nerves that sense touch in each finger to the skin's surface on the side of the arm, then they attach little vibrating stickers to the nerve spots to simulate the sensation of touch on each fingertip, which, by the way, can be felt IN THE PHANTOM LIMB.

[@clementine1586]

every version of finn seems to be an amputee at one point. his past life shoko, his pillow world self, and his farm world self all have prosthetics on the same arm. being an amputee is just fundamentally a part of finn.

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

And seem to favour a claw type of prothesis

[@A_JinglyRabbit]

LSP may be around the same age as Finn, (yes, LSP is canonically around 15 to 16 yo) but age doesn’t really matter in this context. Assault is still assault.

[@mk-aka-morgan8386]

NO ONE EVER MENTIONS WHAT LSP DID IN BREEZY OTHER THAN JOKING ABOUT IT THANK YOU OMG

[@kinuckly5673]

I think one of the reasons we don't see Finn messing with his prosthetic arm is because the one time we see that he does, he kills Fern. In that same episode he is shown PB's introduction and instructions for the arm so it's very much implied he hasn't messed with it in the past. It's likely that's why he didn't fuss with it any time later. It had already damaged him enough.

[@carlwarner5239]

"you don't see people just chilling with their prosthetics off" The only other example I can think of is in berserk after guts kills the sea god and is just sitting in the window of the ship looking out onto the night sky in just pants and bandages

[@attic6133]

there’s no part of the breezy episode that i like it’s just. one of the weakest episodes and i felt really disappointed watching it even when i was younger and didn’t know how explain why. also maybe finn always wearing his metal arm after the second time losing it was him still adjusting and not being 100% okay about it yet? like after GLOB he got comfortable enough to be without it more often? (could be wrong though) still would’ve preferred the basics of it being off/next to him when he sleeps or even just him chilling having it to the side or him cleaning it in the background?? like anything! would’ve been nice!!! and really easy to include. like the show has lots of small character details it would’ve been a good chance to do that for finn’s arm. overall really liked your video and agreed on all your points!!! adventure time has been my favorite show since i was kid and i enjoyed seeing finn have an obvious disability though i wished the representation was more? i guess would be the word? anyways have a good day

[@Oakwyrm]

It's very much a possibility that Finn reached a new level of self-acceptance after GOLB and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, honestly. Being digested by horrible Eldritch deities will do that to you. But like. Yes all around. Definitely would've been extremely easy to just place in some simple character moments in the background. And thanks, you too ^^

[@Sleepy_Muse]

Their are a few importent things I thing you missed out on talking about For one, Finn is like, a teenager, as you put it, with no other humans to interact with or genuinely relate to in the sense, and he also has no parents, just Jake, whos probably the closest to a parent that he’d have, PB was his love intrest, so at the vary least, she’s a mature friend, whos still not human, and Marcelin a wild vampire, he’s constantly surrounded by theses people and things that have wild abilites and skills, and he’s just always been himself Once in a daydream. He pictures himself as an adult, muscular with a big sword, and a robotic arm And later on still, wile fighting “the barn” with Jake, he’s introduced to a hero that bricks both his legs, explains that he’s gunna be fine because he’s friend makes robotic legs, to which Finn mentions how cool he actualy things itd me to have bionic parts, which concerns Jake, when finn seems adamant, Jake tells fin that thail discuss it later When fin gets his grass sword he adapts to it fairly quickly, in a sense, getting his wish to have some cool magical ability like his friends, and after confirming that it’s not evil, he really gose all in on its abilites, and starts to connect with it as an exstention of himself He’s not thrilled to loose his real arm OR his grass arm, but in the moment he dose, it’s clear that his arm is the least of his concerns, an afterthought that cements something awful that’d just happens to him, somthing he thought would have gone a lot smoother As you state in the video he Dosent take this well for a wile, being given so manny diffrent prosthetics to choose from Yes he can be a hero without one, but for everything he dose across ooo, and the fact of how much easier it is to find a suitable prosthetic then our own world, theirs a lot more benefits to gaining a prosthetic, and again, Finn as expressed earlier on, his desire to aquire one at some point So latter on, when PB grants him his inspector gadget arm, he’s atleast thankful, if not alittle overwhelmed with its capabilities, going from a grass hand, to a metal robotic one Finns also never really been the best with figuring out technology, and after his arm accidentally murders another Finn clone, he not only exspirences like, the 3ed time he’s accidentally killed himself, but he’s also likly made a mentle note to not utilize any of the arms tool functions, especially considering he could do all the things it could do on his own anyways, he’s vary naturally gifted (which of course, is something he also understands about himself, arm or not) He likly sleeps with his robot arm because he’s still attached to his fantasies of having one, even with everything that happend, like a kid sleeping with a new toy of theirs instead of putting it away And in the face of wondering how comfortable it would be to sleep with a metal arm, it likely isent, fins probly just use to doing a lot of uncomfortable things at this point in his life, and likly finds adjusting to them somewhat comforting, pluse it’s not like he had other people to go off of for this kind of situation, he also probably figured that living with his arm is just what his life was now, and he was pretty cool with that My last 2 things here is that in Finn’s privious life as “Shoco” she also lost her arm, and had it replaced with something that Princess bubblegum made for her as a gift Of course by the end of the episode she grows back what I assume to be her orginal arm, but she herself states that that would have been pretty cool if she wasent about to die, adding in the fact that the rest of her body was rediculessly deformed And finaly, in the episode where Finn makes his wish for the litch to never have existed, his “normal” human self also has a robotic arm, the diffrence being that it’s attachments are tools that Finn himself can change and use (giving it the adaptable traits that Finn would benefit from, wile also making them simple enugh for him to not make an uncontrollable or frustrating mistakes) (It’s also worth noting that Finn’s normal human self was at some point seen in a much earlier episode, robotic arm and all, so if anything, it seems like Finn was always going to loose his arm) Through this whole story, Finn constantly gose on a journey of self acceptance, and in some way shape or form, he’s always proved that he’s already accepted himsel He might not always understand himself, or why he’s doing what he dose, but he’s atleast ready to ride out the waves of chaos and figure out what he can, he lives in a strange world, that Dosent give you a lot of time to cope with or question the various changes that you might go through, and as a human boy, I can’t blame Finn for seemingly being averted for this kind of stuff to happen to him, only to later have to deal with the actual effects of theses things happening, or rather, the things that happend that led to something else happening to him

[@Jnihil00]

Just a couple quibbles / sticking points : Finn has parents, Margaret and Joshua are his Mom and Pop. Jake, Jermaine, and Finn were all of their pups, and from what we get through the series, they were very involved in their lives and development. Joshua was misguided, but he was so concerned with his youngest pup that he made him a whole entire dungeon to "toughen" him up, and also bequeath him with the cool demon blood sword, episode Dad's Dungeon. And Finn was obviously attached to his Mom, he kept her music box with him, seen in episode Jake vs. Memow, and references his love for the lullaby. And while Jake does take over parenting after Margaret and Joshua's passing, his role is still as the older brother, which is obvious in how he and Finn live and adventure, like in Jake Suit where Jake proves a point by socially embarrassing Finn in front of Phoebe. And of course, there is the episode Jermaine when all of the boys get together and it goes from subtext to pure text how important Margaret and Joshua were to all of the pups. I don't know how important it is to reference that Finn, at least from the beginning of the series, doesn't know what it is to live as a human, he acknowledges it a few times but I vividly remember it in the episode Susan Strong, because by the time he meets humans he acknowledges that they are very different. Finn is pure rough and tumble and loves adventuring while most of the humans, excepting Kara, Frieda, Simon, and Dr. Gross, prefer living under the relative safety and security of Minerva. You're certainly spot on that losing an arm has been foreshadowed early in Adventure Time, I don't remember the name of the episode offhand that you're calling out, but I do remember the scene. It's also foreshadowed in Puhoy, the Pillow World episode, and Dungeon Train, when Finn looks into the future crystal and sees his much older self still dungeon crawling on the train. And of course, also in the episodes Finn the Human and Jake the Dog, the Farm world episodes you referenced.

[@herecomemacOnTT]

This breaking down of Finn's acceptance really did do it for me. I'm HoH and that makes life pretty difficult, but I've literally never known a life outside of it. I was deaf after a surgery for a while as a kid, and the doctors went into the surgery not knowing if my hearing would ever recover at ALL, and here I am, able to hear your words. At max volume with earbuds in, but hear nonetheless. Makes me feel a little less awful about the way my ears function ❤ glad I found your channel

[@theeveningcallsforfairies5246]

Y’know I wonder if the whole undoing of his amputation before Fern was meant to be representative of him being in denial of his trauma, and then him losing his arm again and coping with it much better the second time around shows how he’s come to accept his trauma.

[@cookiequeen5430]

I must admit, until I discovered I'm autistic last year as an adult, I never really thought about disability or disability representation. I started thinking about it then because the question "Am I disabled? And what should that mean?" popped up in my head. I am grateful for these videos because they make the topics accessible to me. It's really important that I understand the people around me better, so thank you!

[@AlexDayz]

I honestly didn’t even notice Finn not using his prosthetic arm after he exited Golb till now and it’s such a nice detail. I just accepted it as part of who Finn was, stump and all.

[@themidnightbanshee5927]

I'd like to remind you that PB made the arm so it's probably something too advanced for Finn to repair maybe even doesn't need repairing

[@alyshaharper8730]

That's what I figure. He's always in the candy kingdom, it would not be a huge inconvenience to swing by the palace when ever his prosthetic got wonky. And I totally hated LSP even before she became a child molester. Because Finn is just that, a child!

[@themidnightbanshee5927]

LSP is unlikeable in general

[@feonixrizen4960]

I've never watched adventure time but when Finn pulled the blanket further up after what the purple thing did hit really close to home

[@AdderMoray]

As I saw it, Finn keeps the prosthetic on for adventuring and leaves it off when he's relaxed. The thing is, between getting his prosthetic and the end of the series, Finn was *never* relaxed. He had gotten past the loss of his arm, but he had all these other things weighing down on him, making him feel like he needed to be prepared to swing into action at a moment's notice. He was incredibly high strung throughout the final seasons. Which, I figured, is why we stopped seeing him with it on until the beginning of Together Again. Because he could finally relax and just *be*. No more battles to fight at any moment. He'd only need to put it back on when he and Jake (and later Bronwyn) actively went on a adventures. But we never actually see him on one until Together Again.

[@forgetfuldullahan5468]

I briefly worked with a man and his wife at their hotdog cart, was an interesting gig, moreso from the conversations I had with them. The man had essentially most of his left arm de-gloved from the elbow down in a combine harvester in his youth, being rural Canada in like the 60's or 70's. But what I found most interesting, was that in the 50 years since the accident, he never once bothered with a prosthetic. Now he was not the first person I've seen with an amputation, far from it, but he was the first person I had met that had forgone a prosthetic entirely. He said it was because by the time he had enough money to afford one, he had already learned how to do everything with just his stump. In his own words; "Not once did I feel disabled once I learned to adapt. Was it hard? Yes. Is it possible for everyone to do what I did? No, probably not, I'm just one old fart, I can't speak for everyone, not every amputee, but hell, we're humans, ain't we? We adapt, we survive, and then we thrive. I'm just differently-able, not disabled. Don't you let anyone treat you like your less just cuz you're different, doesn't matter if you're not the fastest runner, or the quickest thinker, or even if you're an old coot like me and only have one arm to do it with, you can still do whatever you want in life. I wanted to cook good hotdogs at a baseball game, and that's exactly where I got myself. Don't let what others think about you to hold you back, kiddo." And that's what this video reminded me of in the, with Jake just chilling with his friends. Damn. Now I want a hotdog.

[@crazycatboysolomon7006]

3:26 "Permanently, for now" is basically Adventuretime's whole thing

[@myStitch11]

When you brought up how little we see amputee characters without their prosthetics it did click that was true, or when the prosthetic isn’t on them it’s used to be depressing almost. My brain also thinks how robotic prosthetics are a rather popular depiction, though usually my brain just thinks the robotic ones are surgically connected to the person so not easily removable for sleep or showers. I think my brain mostly gets this from Fullmetal Alchemist/FMAB, as Edward Elric has robotic arm and leg as they show that it is physically painful when reattaching the robotic limbs as it attaches to the nerves directly. We do get to see maintenance every now and then from Ed, but he more is berated by his childhood friend and mechanic for being so reckless with it, not taking care of it, and a couple of times breaking it. (Though I wouldn’t go to this show for the best representation *SPOILERS* as he gets his original arm and leg back in the end and his brother his whole body back)

[@devforfun5618]

well, their objective in the story was to get back what they lost, and even them he still has the prostetic leg, he only got his arm back because he lost the metal arm in the middle of the fight, and he got alphonse body back because it was way more severe than a disability, the animated armor was totally numb, Alphonse was more like a ghost than a person

[@duncathan_salt]

It's worth noting that he does NOT get both limbs back - he only gets his arm. And immediately after, he gives up his alchemy - I'd really and truly argue that for Ed, the loss of his alchemy is a more meaningful disability to him than the loss of his arm. I've always seen him as more disabled by the end of the series, not less.

[@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023]

@@duncathan_salt Good news: Oakwyrm's next video will be about Fullmetal Alchemist as a whole (I just watched it on Patreon)

[@ezracertain7998]

My thing about LSP is that she seemingly doesn't want to change. All the other characters do. And while lsp is probably everybody's least favorite reoccurring character, there are plenty of people who never grow. Never want to change and do better. I don't think they actively ignored her. But I think most people know someone who is awful and for various reasons have to keep in some kind of contact with them. It just makes it feel a little bit more real to me. I would like there to be a point in the series where her behavior was addressed, but idk her living in the woods and most people trying to ignore her is close enough I guess.

[@PennyLance]

Something else that could’ve been touched on, is that in Finn’s past lives, alternate timelines and alternate dimensions he’s almost always seen missing his right arm, things like this have been foreshadowed as early as season 2! I think it further emphasizes that Finn’s “truest self“ is one without his right arm! As if he was always destined to lose it because it’s an essential part of him, yet not a defining part. I always thought it was funny how throughout the series he loses his arm not once, not twice, but three times lol.

[@MelodyYoung]

Finn gets attacked by Ice King and other random weirdos all the time in the show while he's sleeping. I think it makes sense he'd sleep with his prosthetic on just so he's ready to go at a moment's notice if someone busts into their treehouse for the one-thousandth time. When we see Finn in Distant Lands he has a towel on and it looks like Simon grabbed him while he was in the middle of a shower, so it's probably the case he does take it off for things like showers and stuff, but sleeps with it on just because he doesn't want to be caught off guard.

[@pastelspark1093]

Okay I know this video is nearly a year old now, but I still really like how chill finn was at the end. I think the one of the only other times i've seen an amputee in animation like that (in mainstream cartoons for kids) is I *think* Wilt from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends? it is pointed out in the first episode, and I think one other episode later on that deals with his backstory, but other than that I don't think it 's touched on much- he's still able to play basketball, he's still overly kind, he's just a cool dude!

[@gulfgiggleanimations4472]

I'm really glad that this popped up on my home page. Disability is something that's integral to a story that I'm brainstorming, and seeing you tear apart what examples of disability in media do right and wrong is a really helpful example. I fell off of adventure time a long time before any of this happened, I think it was just because it was moved to a different time slot on cartoon network and I just didn't realize they were still making more episodes until people got hyped about the finale online, and a bunch happened that I wasn't there for. It's on my long list of cartoons to finish watching/rewatching.

[@TheSilverEgg]

I’m nearly 2 years late to this video, post Fiona and cake, and SPOILER ALERT, but: I’m not an amputee or otherwise physically disabled so maybe this isn’t as cool as I think, but I really like that Finn is shown wearing different prosthetics throughout ep 2 of Fionna and cake. He’s wearing a shorter one with fingers while hanging out at the bar, and then another one similar to farmworld Finn’s metal arm while adventuring with Simon. Compared to the main series’ rep, its a nice detail that implies more maintenance and im sure it’s more realistic lol

[@ProjectSebastiann]

YES! Never seen someone really acknowledge Fern, he's my favorite character!

[@lacewinglml]

I still remember the episode that got me, was the one where we find out about how the ice king lost his memory.. Broke my heart as I was dealing with my father with dementia...

[@tipsy634]

This is a wonderful video. Good critique on season 6 and 7. I was one of many who was enormously disappointed by "Breezy" for the reasons you mentioned. I knew as soon as a flower sprouted from Finn's arm, and he didn't get a robo prosthetic, that it would be an impermanent change, but with how good "Escape from the Citadel" and "The Tower" were, it was devastating that it just... grew back to normal. However they did a good job with later season Finn losing his arm and keeping his growth from those episodes. Honestly that's how he should have been after Breezy - either his grass arm grows back funny or it's just a robot arm. Or a robot arm that his grass curse integrates with. Imagine! But like you, I found the scene of armless Finn in Obsidian dancing topless with a Jake tattoo just... beautiful. A new level of self acceptance. What do you think of "The Vault"? The ep where Finn in his past life was a one-armed bandit who met PB. Shoko was chill with having one arm, and beat up some bandits with it, while also being very grateful (and sad) about a prosthetic being gifted to her.

[@Oakwyrm]

Thank you so much ^^ In all honesty, when I made this video I didn't really remember that episode on account of I started back in the end of season five, but I went back and re-watched it real quick so... I liked it. Not only 'cause it's got Shoko running around being disabled in a real but 'it's not a big deal' kind of way, but also 'cause it kind of deals with how it's not healthy to lock things away. Sure it's in the context of past-life guilt, but still a relevant message. I found Shoko's reaction to her new prosthetic very understandable and a little heart-breaking, because she's obviously not had a good life and unlike Finn, who has the option of whether or not he wants to wear his prosthetic, she likely never did. Bubblegum was probably the first person to care enough about her to even give her that option. Not entirely jazzed about her mutated form growing a new arm, though. One thing which IS kinda cool, though, is how every (or almost every? I think it's every) version of Finn that has arms at some point ends up somehow losing that one. It's just. Neat.

[@tipsy634]

@@Oakwyrm The Vault Is my favourite episode in the whole series :) thank you for responding with your thoughts on shoko. i think uncivilisedelk once pointed out that shoko growing her arm back was ironically foreshadowing finn growing his back (thankfully losing it again for good). i bet even butterfly finn had a missing leg.

[@daydreamthewaggon6159]

your outro itches a scratch in my brain that has needed it.

[@mohamedlamin2968]

He LITERALLY joke about his metal arm when Bonnie was teasing it by saying he felt the hit after receiving it. Also his farmworld version was called "one arm" as an insult by one guy. So I don't really understand the "disability pun" part.

[@C0nnor-Aliv3]

Finn be like: oh welp there goes my arm, again, for like *the third time.*

[@atlasllm]

hey, thank you so much for this video! i'm an aspiring writer trying to write an amputee character and this really helped put some things into perspective, it's really handy to see what tropes about disability are frowned upon by actual disabled people. your videos just showed up in my recommended, but your sona also looks really cool too!

[@55minecraft]

I honestly noticed WAY earlier than he actually lost his arm that in "future" representations of himself (both in one of the comics, and in Puhoy) he also had a fake arm! It was a weird trend i had noticed until he actually lost the arm in said later episode. It was really cool foreshadowing that he was always going to loose an arm in my opinion o:

[@myaltaccount4438]

I have a character whose a cyborg with a lot, and I mean a LOT of prosthetics, even having part of her brain being replaced by robotic parts. It never really clicked that this character was disabled until I started watching your videos, and now that it has I've noticed the blind spot in representation. Thanks for being you and talking about this.

[@DarkRelm22]

I would love to hear your thoughts about Simon/Ice King returning to his "true form" and how that affects Marceline.

[@erinmyers2375]

That song about him trying to rip his dads arm off is hysterical 😂

[@jj_the_ent]

“some mildly morally questionable intervention by bubble gum” its bubble gum- what else is new🤣

[@riverstyx7251]

I do love it though that PB, being as over prepared for anything as she is, turns his arm into a voice activated multi tool that causes mayhem the second Finn learns how to use it. Of course this overprotective tower of gum would implement a “fatality” mode on a child’s arm that immediately sets to work in traumatizing Finn again by accidentally killing Fern with it, it just wouldn’t be PB if her overly-helpful good intentions went south. I also love how the psychological trauma was handled in this show. By far one of the best and most detailed animated shows in that regard, and I say this as a cptsd patient

[@pomegranate_goblin]

I myself am a writer. I have disabled characters in all of my stories, simply because I feel they belong there. I try not to portray them as ''oh woe is me'', most of them are pretty chill about it. There are some instances where they're like ''of all the times to be disabled'', but it is ALWAYS because they aren't getting their necessary accommodations. For example, the main character of my first story is a wheelchair user. He always has been, always will be, because he should be. I try to include appropriate jokes where appropriate (for example, Yesenia, a veteran amputee who has a prosthetic for her leg but didn't bother with her arm (she does HAVE one, but at some point she stopped wearing it.) often makes jokes about the hand. But I always see on writing sites that in order to represent a certain group, you need to (respectfully) talk to people of that group. I never get to see anyone like you, barely even people like me. All I seem to see are white, cis, abled people. So what do I need to do to write disabled characters CORRECTLY. I would hate to become one of the series you go over and say ''really? you could have done better."

[@skalessibbons7349]

I'm also trying to handle a disabled protagonist depressed about his disability.

[@pomegranate_goblin]

@@skalessibbons7349 yeah no they're not depressed abt it, just a lil bit irritated sometimes

[@fanznumber1fan809]

honestly even as a kid, when finn regrew his arm with the bee episode thing, i felt it so *forced*, i was a sucker for drama back then and i was so upset that they didn't keep building up his trauma and crippling depression into a 2-parts season finisher where he confronted his deep trauma head on and healed just a bit, the episode ending with a note about how he can't just get it back, this is his life now and that his friends will be there for him every step of the way to help him accept his new life

[@singingice]

The show has a lot of meta-commentary on "destiny" and things repeating. And disability and relationships are often centered in it. Marceline sings about it, saying "Everything stays, right where you left it, everything stays, but slightly changes", after the Stakes miniseries. She also directly talks about it with the vampire king, who asks her what she noticed over her thousand years, and she says that everything repeats itself and no one lives long enough to see the pattern. And this is brought up because in this moment, the vampire king tries to break the cycle, which he ultimately fails. No matter what, Marceline can't escape her destiny of being a vampire, if she wants to stop vampires from taking over. And vampirism is definitely seen as a disability by Marceline, she is unable to grow out of her teen years, and she is also to forced to drink red (despite it not being as "tasteful" as blood as implied by the other vampires) and not being able to taste food. If she can't drink red, she will lose control of herself. The crown is another such example, it has a destiny of always being used to create the Ice King, no matter what its original purpose was, and it's therefore a kind of mental illness that cannot be cured or removed from existence. One non-disability example is the relationship between Simon and Betty, no matter what they do they just can't ever be together happily. And Finn, last but not least, is one of my favorite examples. Even in his past lives, even in alternative timelines, his fate is always the same. His soul itself is an amputee, and so he will always lose his arm. I love this way of representing disability, because it's not a tragedy to overcome, but an integral part of your identity, something to find pride and acceptance in. It's just some normal part of life that doesn't make life worse.

[@XpIMBOREDXP]

Breezy still haunts me. That episode was too relatable in the worst way

[@viveleshistoires4874]

As someone who hasn’t seen Adventure Time, your recap of the plot had my brain stop functioning on several occasions… ^^’

[@RenaDeles]

Honestly that's just the vibe of adventure time. The first episode is Finn visits Princess Bubblegum at her kingdom and during her science experiments she accidentally causes a "zombie" outbreak in her candy subjects, but she swears Finn to secrecy while fixing it because the candy subjects explode when they get too excited. And oh by the way she created most of these subjects, with this feature, because can you tell she's a mad scientist

[@9nikola]

As someone who has seen Adventure Time, I recommend changing your status of not having seen it.

[@viveleshistoires4874]

@@9nikola It’s been on my mental watch list forever, but you know how impossibly long those watch lists tend to get… x)

[@viveleshistoires4874]

@@RenaDeles Oh, I think I’ve actually seen that episode air on TV once! I never would have guessed it was the first episode though… x)

[@9nikola]

​@@viveleshistoires4874 Oh absolutely. I've had to make some really long lists digitally. I've got one very long list for stuff that friends have recommended to me, and another long list of stuff I'm actually going to watch soon and in which order (as well as including which episode I gotta watch next, so I don't have to rely on memory or something).

[@xanthousizalith5641]

I think that the reason they didn't have Finn do any disability jokes is because they didn't want to be rude to the amputee community and decided to err on the side of caution rather than throwing that out the window and just going Ham with potentially ill mannered or insensitive jokes.

[@RainbowRagdoll]

The... The LSP scene.... I legitimately started digging my nails into my palms and started feeling cold. Fuck LSP, oh.... Oh my god..... Oh my god that was so fucking... Horrifying and terrifying aren't good enough words...

[@RainbowRagdoll]

To clarify, yes there was no visual or known about what happened, but I think that's what makes it worse because it lets your mind fill in the gaps to what she did. That's what made that so hard. Because we watched a very realistic example of what happens before and the feeling after and we can fill in the blanks of what happened afterwards. That's what made that horrifying.

[@lilmissnoodles8675]

A good example of good disability representation, at least in my opinion, is Edward Elric in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Both his arm and leg are replaced with prosthetics and they show a lot of the trauma he deals with and eventually comes to terms with, regarding his disabilities. I don't have an automail arm, but I do have bolts and rods in my right arm and a lot of regular pain that comes with it. FMA was a source of comfort for getting through that. Great video, by the way. Glad I found your channel.

[@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023]

Good news: Oakwyrm's next video will be about Fullmetal Alchemist as a whole (I just watched it on Patreon)

[@Sly-Moose]

Me: **sees Finn get assaulted by LSP** 👁️👄👁️ Oh god, I'm so glad I stopped watching this show- That would have triggered some bad shiz for me- He didn't know what making out actually was! 😭 Oh god, that explains why... AAAAA!

[@NintenRob]

There were two times they did make point of his prosthetic. One when he was trying to use all the gadgets in the arm and accidentally kills Fern. And another on his 17th birthday party where he brags about his robot arm right before arm wrestling. I don't know how that goes for representation but it'd there.

[@a.becker6216]

I always assumed that Finn going around and kissing all the princesses was a way of telling the "older" audiences that he was sleeping around meaninglessly and finding no comfort in it. Maybe that doesn't line up with the age of his character. I dunno.

[@TailsClock]

I like adventure time which is why I clicked this. Had a big self-realisation moment thing. So nothing said after this point is relevant to the video. I ended up asking myself the question "What if I was a cartoon character hero who gets their dsaibility fixed magically?" and apparantly Jake is in this fictional cartoon in my head too, cause man, that got real. And imaginary Jake became the embodiment of all the wisdom I didn't know I had, and gave me some really good advice. Cause the weird thing is how I didn't see myself changing much at all. That doesnt line up with the idea I've had of my healthier self all these years. I've always imagined changing drastically, and doing so much. But how? I wouldn't suddenly gain extra time, so I'd have to give up part of my current life. And I don't think I realistically would do that. It feels like I should feel bad for that, but brain Jake asked me if I'd be disappointed in him if he grew another pair of arms and then chose not to become a professional fighter or bongo player. Or if I'd be okay with him just doing what he already does but finding it a little easier. Of course I wouldn't expect him to have to use his new arms to their full potential. So that really cleared things up. Realising that I'd be the same person, and that it'd be okay, coming back to reality, I think I'm happier now. Knowing that my fantasy of this amazing person I would become was all this time just that, a silly fantasy. I'm not waiting to get to be myself after I can be magically healed. I already am myself. I didn't think this video would knock that kinda sense into me. And I didn't know until now that I needed sense being knocked into me.

[@_-PLUTO-_]

Idk why but "good good best boi finn the human" is now the only way I shall refer to Finn

[@anythingelse3677]

Other than LSP, it seems to me you have a lot of complaints over minor things, especially finn sleeping with his prosthetic. Yes, realistically, amputees do not do this irl. But this show is not irl. It's a cartoon kids show that's bound to make some mistakes. Plus, finn is still a kid in a world that doesn't deal with the same problems we do, the real world people, so there's going to be differences in the way they do things.

[@It_sSophiaUwU]

A little late, but I think Finn sleeps with his prosthetic on is because he likes to be battle-ready, and is right-handed, but I could be wrong

[@Carimews]

i want to re-watch adventure time since i used to watch it a lot but i refuse to watch breezy, what finn experiences with lsp is very close to what i had experienced with one of my "exes." i don't want to watch an episode that is too close to my trauma.

[@kt68866]

I agree with your feelings about not accurately displaying finn's life with a prosthetic. But I think he might wear a prosthetic to bed. Hes a big hero boy, and he probably has some big hero feelings about what would happen if he was woken up in the middle of the night and didnt save a princess in time because he took however long it takes to attach an arm. Im also basing this partially off of a memory that may not be real where finn leaps out of bed already holding his sword. He seems like he wants to be ready to be a hero at all times. And hes 14, so like. Think of you and your teenage hormones and insecurities, but also you're the top soldier to the princess/dictator of your homeland and it's your sworn duty to protect it. And then you do some dumb stuff that makes it so you're less good at your lifes ambition, your duty, and your job, where you are less likely to be able to save someone's life, unless you're wearing this robot arm. I mean maybe sleeping with a prosthetic is real real bad, I know I would not if I had one, but finn sleeps on rocks and doesnt give a toot. It would have been cool to have one scene where he wrangles it on in the middle of the night, showing a second of frustration, and then it never happens again, though. You make a really good point about him at least performing maintenance in the background, because this show is really a lot involved with the background. Things like that make adventure time. It really would have been incredibly easy to craft this background narrative of finn taking care of his arm, or making an offhand remark about seeing PB to upgrade his robo-arm before we have a side character episode or something, and it would have been a lot of fun to see.

[@cursedkai2627]

Something I like about the Finn is that his past lives also were amputees. Like, it's his trues form ya know.

[@sacredfire536]

Also I like your channel and I respect your opinions. The closest thing I am to being disabled is just having intense nerve pain, fibromyalgia that is honestly deeply debilitating on my worst days. I remember watching a video yesterday and cringing hard at the given misinformation and straight bullshit about fibro. It was about butch Hartman's weird bible beating wife if I remember correctly. So you definitely have the right to your opinions and disabled people definitely deserve to be seen in a correct light in media. I feel like LSP is meant to be bothersome and is a parody of herself. I guess in the end I just hope this stuff doesn't ruin your enjoyment of this series bc it's one of the best cartoons ever made. You are a very interesting and intelligent person and I'm your newest subscriber.

[@crazyeeveelady3636]

I'm so glad this channel got recommended to me! Your commentary is really thoughtful and engaging!!

[@surgeeo1406]

This video reminded me of an excellent point in Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, where Edward gets new, lighter metal limbs, because the original ones he made were screwing up his whole body for being too heavy. It's details like this that really put you in the character's shoes. Finn just keeps it all at the emotional level, as if a prostetic could trully replace a limb...

[@SqualorOpera]

This man is the main character. I don’t know why, but his avatar is just ✨radiating✨ main character energy™️

[@ceviche4life951]

Ty for the disability tips. I have a character with a steampunk arm and the notes made here helped me know what to do with it through the story

[@crazycatboysolomon7006]

16:54 He's been disabled since his last life! Something about his soul keeps getting his arm cut off.

[@sheikaejulius4441]

The main character of the walking dead is an amputee partway through the story. You might be interested in that, it also plays a role in the story quite well.

[@ianesgrecia8568]

"it's that easy to NOT f sh*t up" Oh yeah... Talk that to disney

[@erg7930]

Alternative title: LSP rant lmao (loved this video btw)

[@Jenna-in4br]

Is it bad that I also skip breezy. It just makes me uncomfortable so when I binge I always skip it

[@angelsqueaks128]

i think there was an episode with a prosthesis joke? i remember an episode where jake's sitting on the wall to the candy kingdom & asks finn for "a hand" so he just. throws his prosthesis up towards jake and keeps doing what he was doing. i might be misremembering, though, its been a while since i watched

[@connyaaaa5555]

My mom makes prosthetics for a living, she also teaches people how to do so. So, I’ve been around disabled people (amputee and others) all my life. It was nice to see Finn have a disability cuz I feel like not a lot of protagonists cartoon or irl have visible disabilities or any at all. It’s also kind of a shock to me when people don’t necessarily know how to interact with disabled people. I’ve seen people baby and belittle them a lot and I always hated that. My mom always told me to let them be independent and if you see they’re struggling, ask if they need any help, not “Here, let me help you” or “you look like you need help” no, just “Do you need any help?” And be polite. I don’t have a visible disability (I’m neurodivergent so it’s often times looked over) but I understand how frustrating it can be to have someone baby and belittle you or try to do things for you without asking. Yes this was very random, I just wanted to throw this out there and I am also half awake so sorry if none of this makes sense

[@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023]

Could you please edit your comment to add paragraph breaks? It seems really interesting and it is frustrating to not be able to read it. You see, I am dyslexic (and hyperlexic, but that doesn’t help with this problem). I would love to understand what you wrote, but I cannot process a continuous "wall" of text, and your first paragraph is 2-3 times the length that I can take in. 30-50 words per paragraph and an empty row between paragraphs should make it possible for dyslexics who have this same problem to read your comment. With the current number of subscribers on this channel, there likely are a few hundred of us here already. Thanks in advance!

[@connyaaaa5555]

@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 sorry, I’ll edit it. (I’m dyslexic too but I don’t have that problem) I’m- hold up lemme see how you say it in English- I think it’s dysorthography cuz in French it’s dyslexie dysorthographie

[@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023]

@@connyaaaa5555 Merci bien! I had completely forgotten the dysortography concept, thank you for reminding me.

[@connyaaaa5555]

@@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023 no problemooooo

[@fanficker6907]

Hiii c: I want to ask you some questions about the topic(s) of your comment, if you would be comfortable with me doing so. (( Obviously it's no problem if you don't want me to !!! )) Btw I agree with your comment, about how weird it can be with people babying disabled people... I've seen it (Ive a disabled cousin and had some classmates too) and it's so unnecessary and uncomfortable, like for example my cousin is paralyzed but he still hears, sees, and understands everything around him, he jokes like any other teen our age, he's a great student, etc. But ppl can't see nor do they consider any of that at first glance. They don't know him, as a person. I think ppl react that way because they havent had much close-and-personal interactions with disabled people and think they have to act differently than with "the rest", but if they got to know them better they would understand more, keep some respectful distance about it, and learn to *not* expect anything, because every disabled person is different, because every disabled person is a person. (Lol that was better structured in my head, sorry, I hope I didn't make it sound confusing) Sometimes the ppl we meet touch us inside or change us, right? Disabled or not, from another country or from across the street, and so on. Everybody has something special inside. Sorry Im rambling and for my english. I just really felt your comment bc I was raised the same way about this🌸

[@blakereber6028]

The truest self scene is incredible and means so much to me

[@cultofthebloodgod429]

7:35 yeah when I first saw that scene I was weirded out by it sense I didn't know what sexual assault was due to being a child but I always knew it was fuckin weird and it made me want to curl up into a ball

[@metademetra]

So the thing about Finn getting his arm back: When I was a teenager, my stepsister and I stumbled across a comic that was written by the people that made Adventure Time. Part of the plot involved Finn being teleported into the future and getting to interact with others in his adult body. Adult Finn had his robot arm. That meant that even IF the creators gave Finn a new arm in the show, they always intended Finn to lose his arm permanently at some point.

[@Crusty783]

11:58 end of season 7. CN reshuffled the eps and its bullshit lol. The creators intended for this to be the end of S7, so it's the end of S7

[@maryannjordan8143]

I love your voice its super enjoyable

[@solarmoth4628]

LSP was a fun gimmick for a couple of moments in middle school but as the show progressed she became much more irritating as the other characters grew and moved forward eventually just becoming an irritating sexual predator. I thought the robot arm was connected to his muscles and nerves, and he can’t actually take it off. But since he’s seen without it on later then it probably wasn’t the case. It would make sense for him to maintenance on it like Edward in full metal alchemist where his prosthetics are a significant part of the story.

[@SwordTune]

One of my favourite things about the Adventure Time universe is that it seems to be a rule that Finn Mertins loses an arm. His past life, future life, alternate life, it doesn't matter. He HAS to lose an arm. Why? Just because.

[@rodolfobeguiristain]

i dont think finns arm is meant to be removed on a whim, but that doesnt devalue your criticism

[@smolmage316]

season 6 - 7 explained where my arm at!?

[@IceFireofVoid]

What the hell is that LSP omg that is unacceptable

[@somerandomschmuck2547]

I mean on the Finn sleeping with his prosthetic thing, Finn isn’t the smartest tool in the shed