Oats OR Wheat OR Winter Rye For Best Whitetail Food Plot

[@camofamilyoutdoors]

Great video! Love the content. I’m a winter wheat guy. No matter where I put it, it always seems preferred. I always plant several things in the fall to go head to head with it and nothing has come close except clover in early season. I’m sure it’s just a area thing but I do have good soil and ph. And totally agree on oats. Never have preformed like wheat. I did try 1/2 acre of rye last year but deer just walked through it to get to the wheat.

[@MySliceOfHeavenoutdoors]

More great info Jeff, after watching your previous video where you talked about Rye , i went out and bought 150lbs. never used it before but going to try as you suggested. Working with a 1/2 acre food plot I am going to layer it in 50lb intervals. I am looking forward to seeing how this works. keep the videos coming Jeff. I enjoy them as I am sure many others do

[@anthonymalueg3520]

As often as you talk about the Winter Rye and Ryegrass being different, many people that I talk to still don't understand the why!

[@rbljackson]

Great tip in there that I never even considered. Oats for fall, seeded with the clover, and the oats are gone in the spring clover remains.....Nice!

[@rfb7117]

Jeff, Great info on rye, oats etc. We have been planting winter rye in August into our soybeans with good success for years. We found it worked better for us than wheat for many of the reason you have stated. Thanks for sharing all the specific information. Bob

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Bob that is great feedback and I really appreciate it. Rye is so versatile for things like that...so easy. Your are very welcome...now we just need some appreciable rain in the forecast.

[@jeremyfoss505]

This is exactly what I''m planning to do this fall, for my first plots. Oat's, Peas, and plenty room left over, for multiple layers of rye! :)

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Sounds great Jeremey! Lots of volume and a sure fire way to a great food plot...

[@davidscott6812]

oats do great in the south, feed deer in the winter, but seeds out in the spring for the turkeys to eat the seeds. and they love eating them.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Unfortunately they die out by November/December in the northern states. Even cold hearty oats... I bet they love them in more southerly locations tho!! They shorter too which is nice compared to rye. Turkeys don't like that tall rye too much

[@TrehanCreekOutdoors]

Always enjoy your videos but so many of them are oriented toward far north climates. Living in a semitropical zone in Jackson, Mississippi is a world apart when it comes to food plot plantings. The deer here do love rye however and eat it eagerly. What most of us plant however is winter wheat as it costs about $9 for a 50 pound bag where as rye is about $25 per bag. Both of them grow just about as well due to our mild winters and the deer really don't seem to care which one they are eating.

[@kristophstjames4143]

i always had success with Buck Forage oats here in south Georgia, sandy soil- I'm going to try cereal rye too

[@jasonw9423]

Have you tried oats, if do any luck with it?

[@jasonrhodes7047]

Rye is fantastic! It can grow in a barrel. The first time I planted rye the deer hit it so hard they were craping like dairy cows.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Ha, too funny Jason! Their poop IS what they eat, for sure 👍 I have it growing in the back of my pickup most years...GREAT stuff!

[@jasonrhodes7047]

Whitetail Habitat Solutions One of my friends owns swamp ground with nothing but hemlocks and the only hard ground he has is an old built up logging path cutting through the swamp. I told him rye grows anywhere so he scuffed up the top of the roadway and planted some there and it grew nice.

[@danielrios6396]

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[@travislee5417]

Just planted My first plot. Whitetail Imperial clover with Egyptian wheat as a screen. I planted late July and the Egyptian wheat looks great. The clover is coming up slowly, we haven’t had much rain. I limed and fertilized the amounts suggested by whitetail institute. My soil PH tested at 5. They suggested spreading wheat over the clover just before a rain. What do you think? Thank Jeff You do the best work I have seen

[@courtofficermcilvaine7928]

Rye, Rye, and more Rye for me in New Jersey. Enjoyed the video. Thanks Cris

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Ha, enjoy Cris! You are very welcome 👍

[@isaacwagner9918]

Just got me 50 lbs of granular rye today can’t wait to get the seeds on the ground

[@brianlenneman5032]

Rye is a great filler! Especially if you layer it!! Great video Jeff!

[@Ufishinfeathiesp]

I'm a Yooper. Good to hear some insight on foodplots for up here

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Great to hear yooper 👍 A lot of my food plot practices and experiments were born out of the UP in the late 90s, early 2000s. I truly hope that they help you out!

[@csemrau]

As usual great info Jeff. This really helps me! I am changing my plan from wheat to winter rye.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

That sounds great Craig! Looking forward to hearing about your season...

[@naggersleadmatters3510]

WNYbowhunter why wouldn’t you plant both?

[@csemrau]

@@naggersleadmatters3510 because of where I am rye would be smarter to plant, better results, longer lasting into season. Jeff explains why winter rye would be better in this video, pertains to me & my scenario.

[@naggersleadmatters3510]

WNYbowhunter gotcha, I thought winter wheat just lasted longer into the spring and did better in the cold?

[@dennisb1224]

Rye and buckwheat for the worst soil. I had good success with oats/buckwheat and oats/clover too. I will always have a plot of rye for early spring food and some buckwheat in the summer. Buckwheat creates a whole mini ecosystem with bees, birds, rabbits, deer, turkeys, bears and just about everything in there just remember that buckwheat dies with a frost so reseed or use it as a nurse crop.

[@ericfloyd9842]

Great video again, Jeff. Winters in SC are mild enough to get the oats through to Spring and the deer seem to like them better. I am expanding my plots this year and you have inspired me to try something a little different. I may go 50/50 oats/rhy in the new plot and see how it works.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Morning Eric...thank you very much! Online that combo and the rye will be very strong thru cold spells. Good mix! Always fun to expirement 👍

[@blaineleamon2153]

Hello, I love you videos. I live in central Illinois, we have some great cool weather coming. I finally have a nice half acre of white clover established. Do you think I should mow anymore? The clover is sitting at about 8-10 inches. If so, I was wanting to seed something in to help me threw winter by adding more forage. What do you advise I do as for seed? Leave it alone or add something to give the deer more variety!?

[@joeellis2692]

I say leave it alone. Wait till next year. I'm in up state New York central ny it's to late for me to be putting seed down.

[@markc4921]

How can you make sure your getting winter rye and not rye grass when you go to the feed store? Thanks. Enjoyed the video

[@clayl9202]

Thanks for the video, Jeff, I always learn from your content. I have a question though -- my land is in Wisconsin (60mi N of Green Bay), and it's all enrolled in the Managed Forest Land (MFL) program. I see in your videos a lot of tree removal, tree cutting, and basic reshaping of the landscape, and the purpose is obviously to achieve our goals for hunting. My question is this: do these programs and changes cause problems with the rules for MFL-managed properties?

[@be421]

Would love for you to be able to look at a map of our property and give ideas on how to better it and show its full potential!

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Brandon I do that for a living...roughly 70-90 parcels around the country per year. I only work by the day but it would be great to fit you in if I could! I hope all of the info on the channel helps you out!

[@be421]

Whitetail Habitat Solutions At a cost I’m sure?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@@be421 oh for sure...I charge $2450 per day on parcels up to 160 acres and $2950 for parcels 160-400 (depends on habitat and terrain). And then $4950+airfare for fly in trips. I'm on the road about 100 days per year, just visiting clients.

[@be421]

Whitetail Habitat Solutions what is the best way to contact you?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@@be421 every contact goes through my wife Diane at [e-mail] Diane schedules, receives emails, calls, talks on phone, etc. I hope that helps!

[@christopheriimcguire5315]

I’ve heard about the Norway vs White spruce in a few recent videos. Complete amateur here: could you elaborate on the why, where, and significance of spruce plantings? Thanks! I have loved watching your content and appreciated your expertise. It would be interesting to see a video series about your new property from how you found it and decided it was right for you all the way to your first hunt. Walk us through the process. I know you’re a valuable guy to hire, but a video series on your own property might demonstrate that value in a different and more tangible way.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Thanks Christopher! Oh I will document the new property for sure! Not for getting folks to hire me though or show value, ha...have enough content online for that times 10 already...and turn away over 100 clients per year. But...will be a cool process for sure. I just like helping folks out. Norway spruce is for full sunlight, good soil, heavier soil. White spruce for poor soil, up to full shade, well drained soil. Just depends on the conditions. For one to say one is better than the other is to not really understand either.

[@870wingmstr]

I planted Norway Spruce to screen my plot from a gravel county road. They were doing great till mid January and the deer mowed them! I found Jeff while researching my next step. Egyptian wheat is looking good right now.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@@870wingmstr ha, I bet...I appreciate your feedback too and that's something that I forgot...white spruce is more browse tolerant - thanks!

[@rfb7117]

Chris, We have planted thousands of both over the years along with white pine oaks etc. Although both spruce, Norway and White look totally different. The White branches grow in an upward manner while the Norway hand down. We personally prefer the soil tolerance and look of the White, although we have used both successfully for screening and in hardwoods stands and CRP planting. Bob

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@@rfb7117 I do like them both...just different conditions for each for sure. Same with white and red pine... definitely a time and a place for both!

[@justmike5402]

Live in south Mississippi asking u this year I got a big enough plot to to separate defiant stuff to hunt over. Ok here it is ? What would u plant and when it's already August. This will all be hunted out of one stand two diffent derictions

[@kdsberman]

Hey Jeff. For someone starting out in food plots in Michigan, is it bad to plant JUST winter rye? Will it draw deer even when the snow hits? Thanks!

[@michaelkinney6707]

Have you received the render cell camera yet? A lot of us are still waiting on them and are having a tough time getting ahold of the company.

[@jasonpage5872]

Looking ahead to next spring can I plant clover now and add rye as well now to act as a buffer to protect the young clover? Or just go w rye now and spray it in the spring and add clover then?

[@roseco581]

Rye is easist. But oats are most preferred in the South. Folks usually do Oat, Wheat, Rye, combo or just Oats ( again in the South)

[@hernanhernandez9769]

Buenos días amigo getting ready for work but I had to luck at your video wat is the deference between winter rye grass and rye grass gracias had a really bad experience with hogs on my new food plots this year

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Hernan that is too bad!! Hopefully you have been able to remove a few? Rye grass is a perennial grass...not that much different than your lawn. I wouldn't plant it if it was the only seed available...young weeds would be better 😉 Rye grain looks similar to brown rice. Rye grass is a filler for the various seed companies...give you a quick green start up and looks good, but very low on the value scale for wildlife. Rye grass is a lot more expensive too...several times more for a 50# bag. I hope you have better luck soon!

[@hernanhernandez9769]

I have this property in Uvalde Texas they are just too many hogs Kill little bit over than 25 what do you recommend to plant corn or Milo for dear? Gracias

[@billydescuethefirst]

How good does Sorghum/Milo work for fall/winter food plots. Got some land that the former owners has it planted all over the property..

[@Rcol4427]

Jeff, My brassica plot came in patchy this year because of massive rain from hurricane. This is the first year a cant get my tractor in field for last brush-hog cut. Crazy rain in NY this year. What seed can I use to over-seed my brassica plot in mid-September?

[@lbriant48]

Can you mix like a turnip sweet beet radish mix in with any other cover crop to help them grow without getting hit hard before they mature ?

[@debbiegreen3774]

Jeff what about buck forage oats that are cold hardy I planted them thanksgiving weekend and had oats thru may I have property in wichita falls area

[@SkylerKelly-l9r]

I’m in southern Ohio.. you said last planting should be around mid October… don’t you want to stay off the food plots during season?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

We don't worry about it to plant mid-day during that time of the season. At the same time we have zero food plots in the middle of a buck bedding area, either 😉

[@adamrosendale8121]

Wondering what to broadcast on my beans this fall when they turn. How long are oats attractive to the deer if I were to broadcast into beans in the fall? (I live in Ohio). You said oats do not overwinter, this would mean i wouldn’t have to spray them the next spring when I plant beans again. would I be able to broadcast beans right on top of the remaining dead beans and oats or do u think it would be better to disc the ground first that spring? If I would need to disc, do u think a brassica blend would be a better option to broadcast into the beans in the fall?

[@thedungeon1288]

Sounds expensive to plant oats if they do not come back. If you are spending all your grocery savings on seeds then it takes part of the appeal of hunting away. I would like to do apple, pear, peach, and maybe some pecan or chestnuts. That way it will feed both the deer and my family. They come back year after year. Then perhaps planting a small area that has clover, rye, or soybeans would be okay. After the initial investment, I want it to be cheap.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Stephen, unfortunately you can't build a deer herd or hunt with fruit trees alone...especially not hard mast trees like chestnuts and Oaks. The seed is an extremely small cost compared to most hunting parcels. An estimate would be $500+$1000 or less for the average $200,000 parcel. Small price to pay to have a great deer herd, several times more venison, more room for more hunters do to more deer and greater deer movements, several times more memories for the family, a sense of pride for working on the soil and providing several tons more food than just soft mass or nuts alone. Soft mass is a great compliment to a quality food plot program...nuts a great compliment to the woods. However you can not, ever build a quality herd and hunt with fruit and nut trees alone. You can with food plots tho 😉

[@naggersleadmatters3510]

When is the latest you would plant cereal rye in Oklahoma?

[@Louisiana8critter_getter]

For the south, Louisiana Florida Mississippi oats will most likely make it to spring green up no problem. Also the fact that you are tolerating those Buffalo gnats kills me 🤣 either get you some ors olive oil hair sheen or make some spray yourself using 1 part water 1 part vanilla extract 1 part listerine mouth wash in a spray bottle they won’t bother you ha love the videos thanks!

[@scottdavis2711]

Hey Jeff I live in southern Indiana! This year I am planting winter wheat, winter cereal rye, winter oats, and Austrian winter peas. other than brassicas, our deer won't eat them. What would you recommend to add to my fall mix. I am told to plant around August 1st to mid august. My soil is good 6.3 - 6.5. Thanks.

[@travisethridge4062]

Wow, awesome info. Listened twice!! Just moved in to 20 acres in woods. Have a top bench that used to be pasture 3+ years ago that I would like to plant clover through summer, broadcast winter rye in September, then mow down clover immediately after broadcasting WR. Would that be right?

[@travisethridge4062]

I live in MO mile and half or so away from MO river and thousands of acres of Agricultural so beans and corn do not seem needed...

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

You will have a hard time getting rye to grow in the clover...the clover completely smothers it out. It would be better if you actually needed clover, to establish the clover with the rye during the late Summer...even better with 50#s oats per acre as a cover crop in mid August...you can even add 100#s peas per acre. Then add 200#s let acre of rye in mid to late Sept. Then mow the rye out in the spring before it is 12-15" and your clover will take off fairly weed free. I hope that makes sense?

[@travisethridge4062]

awesome thanks that makes sense

[@fueledtohunt2173]

do you think winter rye would do well just broadcasting on bare soil? I tried planting oats and didn't have much luck getting the seed into soil so I wanted to just do winter rye and clover

[@e.l.robbins5614]

Have you ever use subterranean clover for more shady food plots? Would like to know if you have information on this clover. Do you recommend using a buck forage oat that is sterile, or just a regular oat. I'm planting some rye grain this September. I generally plant buck forage oats and clover, but in November here in arkansas the oats start dying. My soil is poor and not much grows very well. Clover grows ok, but could be better. The soil PH is getting better, but it's still below 7.0.

[@jimh7015]

Jeff, My brassica mix I planed August 24 in southern Michigan is growing decent but it’s spotty and was going to topseed with winter rye as I’ve read from you. Do I need to reapply fertilizer? Or just broadcast on top of the ground and allow this big rainstorm coming to do the rest!?

[@seankeen4468]

Hopefully somebody hasn’t already asked this question, but are you only fertilizing this one time? I know you have mentioned adding urea to brassicas after a certain growth period, would this still be ok to add the urea if I have a mix of cereal grains and brassicas?

[@suzmell1]

That’s correct we never Ova hunt an area not gonna start now thanks for guiding being my mentor means a lot I will probably reach out during this process is that ok

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Oh for sure Paul, I'm expecting it 👍 can't wait to hear about it my friend...

[@Bullbluegill]

what about winter peas? We planted them last year and the deer absolutely beat on them to the point where they ate them to the ground. They would go down the rows and just target that. That was planted with Rye, oats and medium red. Obviously they browsed it all, but the peas they hit like crazy. wondering if you had those experiences or pro's and con's of austrian winter peas. To add to that, since they ate those to the ground, I don't know how long they stay green....similar to a oat or closer to a clover?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Oh for sure CS...been planting them for over 10 years...I buy forage peas tho. They are great...but make sure that you plant at least 100#s per acre. Check out my 2019 Best Food Plot Mix video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKS7n5qoeJlgsJI This was just a video on the differences between rye, oats and wheat...

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@Paul Hoyt late planted peas and beans can make it into the season depending on the circumstances...BUT, so critically important because they take browse pressure off of the brassicas on the other side of the plot AND they begin the pattern of deer use at some point in late August, on the food plots. Plots that should not in most cases have had any food or deer use until that time.

[@jeffjohnston5562]

Should I plant rye if there's 120 acres of rye within 1/4 mile away? Or use wheat?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Jeff, if your planting timing is in September and there is early then your rye will be far more attractive. And it depends on your soil. Rye can grow in just about any soil...wheat needs higher pH and better soil.

[@jeffjohnston5562]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you. I wasn't sure if I should offer something different. I plan to plant around Sept 1 Thanks for the response.

[@TheKevinwildman]

Great game info but can I not mix rye, wheat, oats together? Same with clovers?

[@roseco581]

OF course you can, Rye, Wheat, Oat combos are readily available and relatively inexpensive. Most folks do that.

[@scott1971314]

Jeff I’m in Missouri can I mix Winter wheat and winter rye together?

[@anthonyking2252]

Kentucky can we go Clover then braska then winter rye. Please make article . You are 👍 by the way

[@WobblyRooster]

I’m in southern Illinois, about 45 min from Paducah Kentucky and that’s what I’m doing here this year. Just gotta keep weeds in check

[@jakelukasko8717]

Where do you get winter rye. The only place I could find was on amazon was like $50 for 25lb but I don’t no were to look locally do you have any place or website to get rye cheap and in bulk

[@dawsonnate1815]

When should you plant oats as a cover crop for clover in northeastern Wisconsin

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

You always want to time the cover crop combo with the best timing for the cover crop. For example I would go 100#s per acre of oats with the clover towards Labor Day...then cover that with 200#s of rye the 3rd or 4th week of Sept. You then just have to mow or kill the rye out in the Spring and you will experience a lot better Fall plot, this Fall.

[@dawsonnate1815]

Whitetail Habitat Solutions thanks

[@price.vinson8144]

What is the difference between winter rye and ryegrass? Thanks

[@jasonmaxwell7558]

Hey Jeff, I’ve been watching a lot of your videos non stop! As I recently got into my first hunting club. My questions is from most of tour videos most of your recommendations are for northern tier areas. I live I. The south, Alabama with red clay soil. Any recommendations would be great as we are about to start or late summer and fall food plots in the next month or so. Love my exodus cams by the way!!!

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hey Jason thanks for watching! Oats and clay peas work great your way...too dressing rye later in early to mid October. Annual clovers work great too! Some really good mixes your way with oats, peas, annual clovers and you always have the failsafe of rye later if needed. I bet you are excited and man, I love my Exodus trail cams too!

[@ryanwalters694]

I live in Tennessee on a small parcel(13 acres) surrounded by much larger parcels(100 acres+) of ag or pastures. I’m looking to clear a little spot and give the deer something they can’t get elsewhere. Any recommendations? Ag alternates between corn and soy beans

[@robclinejr4085]

I'm finding out that it's hard to get the deer to use food plots in New Hampshire there is so much natural forage that the deer don't use them enough to pattern them but it might also be something I'm doing wrong I still have a lot to learn so probably me doing something wrong but it's still a good time try to improve my hunt areas

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Rob...there is so much food right NOW, but not during the season. That's the only time you need or want to pattern them with food plots. Deer CRAVE and need high quality greens at that point. Even in ag land or with acorns or clearcuts....very easy to pattern deer with average quality greens like discussed in my 2019 Best Food Plot Mix video. I hope that helps ☺️

[@robclinejr4085]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 true the food is harder for them to find bow season starts September 15th here so I guess using food plots would be kept for the November December hunting that makes sense we have a lot of beach nuts and acorns this year more than I've seen in years thanks for the info

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@@robclinejr4085 oh for sure...October and November really good food opportunity, without great browse locally. Which there would not be...think GREEN!

[@davidstallworth4800]

But what about climates like South Carolina? a different solution

[@ThirdLawPair]

Why wait to plant the rye? Won't it grow in the spring and through the summer?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Great question! Deer don't eat it after spring greenup and it creates several problems for food plotters going into late summer. It sgoukd never be planted as a food plot before mid August in the most northern portions of MN, WI, MI, etc. In about 90% of all areas it should be planted during Sept at some time.

[@ThirdLawPair]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 what problems does it cause if planted early? I'm in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York, and the deer are so overpopulated they've actually eradicated a lot of their native food sources. So even after spring green up they're still somewhat aggressive about hitting any available food source. I have to give my food plots as much time as possible to grow when there are at least some other food sources available if I want my food plot to make it very far into the hunting season.

[@Deatheater91]

Hey Jeff, I am having my ground busted up next week, it’s about a 1/2 acre plot I plan to hunt over. I will be planting 7 card stud along with extra peas and oats, I was then later going to go back over it with winter rye about mid September. Does this sound good for the climate in NE Tenn? Our hunting season opens Sept 23rd here. Thanks

[@yogibear6271]

Samuel Mays your going to hunt over it ? be careful or you will need a spotlight to hunt over it.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

That's a large plot...be careful spooking deer getting in or out of the stand! Kind of what Yogi is pointing. Can do more harm than good. I would only hit 50#s of oats at most...then add at least to a point where you have 100#s of peas or more. That sounds like good timing for you!

[@jonathanwatson1243]

I'm trying to figure out a good mix for central Louisiana

[@buckrockerm]

What are good sources for seed?. Our area has lost our local seed stores since rural king opened. And they don’t carry seed.

[@bengrosz3837]

Can you mix all three or will the rye out compete or suppress the other 2?

[@teambco5097]

Do you think it’d be ok to plant some Winter in the south western side of michigan right now?????? Have some good spots on an acre plot and have some pretty bald spots. Is it tooooo late or so you think it’ll be ok???

[@willnotcomply1328]

Rye may work up North, but here in South East Georgia they tend to prefer Oats, that said Rye is better than nothing.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Oats are definitely better in your area...much better than rye or wheat 😉 Although, rye is better if you have poor soil AND for salvaging a food plot with a simple broadcasting over a failed plot early to mid season for you. I woul say wheat has no place in your area...oats and rye both have their place, for different reasons 😉

[@willnotcomply1328]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 agreed, regardless if I plant Oats or not, Rye is more sustainable and is usually planted along with the Oats. Keep the videos coming. Great information. Thanks

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@@willnotcomply1328 thanks for that! So true tho...much easier to plant than oats. I should have added that oats need to be worked into the soil a bit...

[@rickparshall]

Whitetail Habitat Solutions up here in NY I just broadcast oats over the clover/previous food crop mix and now it down and apply it again and mow it close.. hunting time the oats are like sprouting grain( we use it along with it planted in gutters for chickens and rabbits) it takes about a week to 10 days to sprout and the deer love the fresh tender sprouts.. then towards hunting season I broadcast rye right over the top.. it holds up right into following year.. BTW these are several small plots...

[@upstatebowhunter1617]

@@rickparshall I found your comment because I'm doing my first food plot, im also from NY and my soil ph tests out at 5.5 it's to the dirt now, ive done what Jeff suggests by spraying 4 weeks apart. I'm doing winter rye, but I also have oats. I'm just looking for how to properly plant these and not waste time and money. I sparyed 41% gly with 24D in the first part of May, just sprayed gly a day ago for second run. Third spraying first part of July will come. My question is what process have you found to work well with oats and W rye? Do I just broadcast rye into oats or knock down oats and go over top? If you can explain how you did yours and what's worked best for you. Thank you. Its a 1/4 acre plot

[@RGrizzzz]

What about triticale? What are the pros/cons vs wheat and rye?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Good question Ron! Typically a lot more expensive...not readily available for purchase so a LOT for shipping and although it sounds good on paper I haven't noticed deer preferring it more than anybody the others. More like wheat...used it a bit back in the early to mid 2000s. Not as hardy as rye I didn't think. Stays green tho, compared to oats.

[@danielzielinski6410]

Have you every done winter rye wheat etc in a corn field after its died off and started to dry?

[@lestherquispe6824]

I have an area with low PH and a little wet surrounded by spruce pines. I am planning to use winter rye but is winter green (imperial brand) same as winter rye? You mentioned winter ryegrass is not good too.

[@suzmell1]

Great video timing for me is right on but one thing I’m going to seed around Labor Day week 300# all at once no layering for my project is that not correct

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Hi Paul! Yes, and you may be able to spray the plots to kill weed growth at the same time...of weeds are showing, of course! I would actually divide the planting...150#s around Labor Day and another 150#s closer to end of September.

[@jarrodlambert3914]

Nice

[@mr.skeptical3071]

I was told to use 19-19-19 on rye. Is this correct? Also can I mix rye and wheat 50/50?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Depends on your soil test...and really no need to mix. Typically rye is better...but let availability and soil type be your guide. Zero advantage to mixing ..

[@philgorski1418]

Couldn’t you keep cutting the rye or wheat in the spring and it won’t turn brown and seed. It would stay nice and green and the deer would keep eating it?

[@backcountrysurvivalists]

Great video as always!

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Thank you very much!!

[@jlkkauffman7942]

Have you ever tried triticale?

[@redman4bills]

Could rye be planted into my standing corn successfully?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Yes it sure can Lee! I am broadcasting in early September, with 200#s per acre.

[@josephrichmond5105]

will winter wheat and winter rye work together in a plot

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

It sure will!

[@jeremiahminton8160]

Jeff being late September in sw wi what can i plant now for late season and fall?

[@suzmell1]

You sent me info bout where to push the debris with dozer you said something bout clear ridge lines also something north can’t find it plz help so I can have this done properly

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Like we discussed in the wrap up...you just need to push the debris off of the edge of the Ridgeline...you can text if you want Paul. Working in Canada so just in for KZbin comments. Just have them push it off of the ridge so it isn't surrounding the plot. South side...sorry about that!

[@suzmell1]

Ok great thanks for that info cause I would have spread the 300# all at one time thanks again last question although ph test came bac saying 3750 per acre you said concentrate 1ton which is 2000# this year & same thing next year regarding liming the property is that still accurate

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Yes that sounds perfect Paul! 1 ton will be great and your soil can react to a lot in just in this growing season anyways. Really exited for you guys! You just have to make sure that you don't overhunt those plots...although I don't think you are out there every weekend anyways, right?

[@mormegilthurin5421]

What should I do with the winter wheat come spring it's just sitting there on the field dried out

[@chrishowell9936]

I really enjoy your vlog, but much of it may not apply for me in Central Texas. Are you aware of someone who may do a vlog that may be more applicable for me?

[@SpencerSutliffonyt]

Will deer eat oats as they head out?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Sometimes in Dec/Jan...mostly, NO tho

[@loganlively7073]

Where is the best place to get rye seed

[@danielzielinski6410]

Have you ever done winter rye or wheat in a corn field once its died off after frost?

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Either one works OK...easier to spread in beans tho! It grows well once sunlight hits it. Very good where corn is cut for silage early, instead of picked later...

[@dennisb1224]

I’m subscribed and the video popped up after 4 days. Wierd. Good subject.

[@LouStoriale]

Two words: Bench Press..... go! 🤪

[@RRCB]

Rye grass grows volunteer where i am. Along with vetch and Singletary peas.

[@WobblyRooster]

Rye grass is trash. Rye grain is what he’s talking about

[@RRCB]

I can’t even respond to this it sounds so stupid. Rye grass is where rye grain comes from! Theres also different varieties of it!

[@jasonw9423]

If yellow flies count, we will have some big bucks. 😂

[@bteamshorts]

I’m swatting bugs just watching this video 😂🤦‍♂️

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Ha, me too, lol!

[@suzmell1]

Your expecting it that’s great lmao

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Oh for sure...I hear from a lot of clients and look forward to it!

[@jerimahjohnson8698]

Just put in both in ohio

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

Outstanding Doug...hey at some point let me know how they do, always appreciate the feedback!

[@jerimahjohnson8698]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 will do ...are you on fb

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@@jerimahjohnson8698 I sure am...although I go in streaks on FB...a lot more during hunting season. Under my bi name...right around 80,000 fans.

[@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751]

@@jerimahjohnson8698 also on there personally too...but don't do too much whitetail business on my personal page...

[@jerimahjohnson8698]

@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 ok found you...working on my 300 in Ohio...and looking at 2000 in ky

[@crazylikeafox1000]

Turnips

[@timmebruer5205]

Rye,rape ,wheat, rape oats are all great. Wait you said rape twice I like rape

[@matthewsims359]

Is it too late to plant winter rye in central ky. My 1/2 acre clover plot was put in in early august. In 14 days it was about 3” tall and looking good. On august 23rd it was gone, not a clover sprout anywhere. Can i go in now and put that plot in winter rye. Or, what do you recommend i do. Thanks