OATS, RYE, OR WHEAT FOOD PLOTS... WHICH TO PLANT???

[@RedlineOutdoors]

Great video 👍🏼

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Redline, Thanks for watching snd commenting! I really appreciate it!

[@royguidry1311]

I love these 3 in my small woods plots. They just keep re-growing through all the grazing. My plan for the beginning of August was to plant 1/2 acre of winter peas, 1/2 acre of lab lab, and 1/2 acre of brassica in 3 consecutive rectangles and fence them in till Oct. That would leave me with 1.5 acres of perimeter land outside of the fence along with a few woods plots that I will plant with Cereal rye and oats. This does include a few brush lines and strips of goldenrod I left for some breakup cover through the plots and around them. My thought is the deer may stay out of my expensive crop and let it grow if I give them the grain munchies outside the fence. I already know the woods plots work as I did it last year. Oh, I also will add a scarecrow. This is hopefully going to work this year but is mostly an experiment for next year when I grow my awesome crop of corn and beans. My though was if it works I could fence the corn and beans and surround with clover. Thoughts or suggestions? Thanks for the videos they are giving me great ideas. Or maybe I'm over thinking it. By the way, did the soil test and got everything where it needs to be for now.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Roy thanks for watching and commenting! Yes sir I think that will work well the clover will give them something to eat outside the fence , and with a scarecrow plus a fence you should be able to keep them out of the expensive plots….just don’t let them Get use to that scarecrow, move it around and change things up on it. If they ever get to where they aren’t scared of it, it’s not good. This is up to you, but I would overseer with some cereal rye once you get your first frost and the lab lab dies off, that will fill it the bare spots and add some attraction! Thanks!

[@royguidry1311]

@DIYfoodplotpro yeah, good advice. I'll get 100 lbs of ,cereal rye for the plot. I will go back in Oct to pull the fence. Would this be too early to seed in the rye?

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

@@royguidry1311 I think you would be good putting the cereal rye in October. I shoot for around the 15-25 of October and I’m a good bit south of you. I think you would be fine with that.

[@carrollsanders9376]

Wes try Hairless wheat deer love it just as well as corn.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Caroll thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate it. I will have to look into that, thanks for letting me know what your having success with in your area! Thanks

[@midwesternoutdoorsandnatur8272]

Good stuff Wes. I have rye as my number one as we are in the golden triangle of western IL. I have tried oats and they just do not get near the deer activity and winter kill like you say. I had not heard of the half grown rye kill trick on drilling into it. That’s a good one.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes sir, it works really well in high density deer zones if sprayed and killed at the right time. Thanks for sharing what works well in your area! I appreciate it!!

[@kristophstjames4143]

I love the BFO , so do my deer here in SW Georgia What about Coker oats ? I just planted some so we’ll see how they do It’s just a different oat than the Forage variety

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Bucks forage oats real advantages come from their ability to over winter in colder environments. A lot of the other types of oats will die in the winter, but the buck forage oats can handle the cold much better.

[@nailwall1078]

Thsnk you for videos thanks

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Glad you are enjoying them, thanks for watching!

[@bradmckinney922]

Another great video! What is your opinion on sowing cereal grains into an already established perennial clover field? Would it work with a no-till drill?

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Brad thanks for watching and commenting! Absolutely, with a no till drill you would make easy work of it. I honestly don’t plant many clover plots on my farms, as I’ve had much better luck with corn, soybeans, alfalfa, cereal grains and brassicas. But I understand clover is a good choice for many, and yes no problem at all drilling them into the clover, it’s only going to the make that plot stronger. Thanks

[@markc2036]

I'm here in SC and I'm going to throw out some clover with rye. I'm just wondering what type fertilizer to use. I put turnips, rape and radishes earlier with a little urea. Thanks. Enjoyed the video.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Hey mark, the cereal rye will need 30-50 lbs of nitrogen, the clover will make its own nitrogen, as long as you either inoculate the seed or you have the rhizobia bacteria in the soil already from growing legumes in the past. (It’s never a bad idea to treat the seed with inoculant, and it won’t hurt a thing even if your soil already has the bacteria in it) Clover will need p and k….did you happen to pull a soil sample at this location?

[@markc2036]

@DIYfoodplotpro no I didn't pull a soil sample but I know better for next year. Could I still get sample tested before I throw out my clover and rye? I'm doing that in Sept. So I can still put nitrogen down even though clover doesn't need it? Thanks

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

@@markc2036​​⁠you would probably have soil test results back if you got on it ASAP. Without a soil test it’s a blank sheet, and not knowing your soils it would just be a wild guess recommendation. Yes you need the nitrogen for the cereal rye, it won’t hurt having it down, the clover just doesn’t need it. If you don’t get it back in time, I’d put a couple hundred pounds of 20-20-20. Or something of that equivalent. Next year when you sew the cereal rye into the clover, you won’t need any nitrogen, as the clover will supply it for the rye. Thanks

[@clarkwheeler8764]

Just my 2 cents worth, but for COST considerations, I'd swap the preferred order to #1 wheat, #2 rye, and #3 oats. I can get 2 bags of cover crop wheat for the cost of one bag of winter rye. The oats are pricy also seem to be gone at the first hard killing freeze.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Clark thanks for watching and commenting, I agree wheat is definitely the cheapest option, and buck forage oats are definitely the most expensive. I’ve never had the buck forage oats to die off, I thought they would for sure last year with as cold as it got, but they were still growing well into the spring when I terminated them. Wheat is a good pull, but in my area there are thousands of acres of winter wheat, so maybe the deer are going to something that isn’t as widely available like the oats. Thanks for sharing what is working for you in your neck of the woods! I appreciate it!

[@andrewmolino5995]

Is it a bad idea to plant oats or rye in September so I have something to hunt for bow season? I’m in middle Tennessee.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Andrew, yes you can plant oats and rye in September, that will be just fine! I prefer them a little later to keep the young tender growth, but I completely understand that you want to hunt over something in September. Thanks for watching and good luck with the plots.

[@rafteraranch]

I go with 150lbs of rye and 10lbs of crimson clover 6 weeks after planting my brassicas blend. I have a high deer density situation and they keep the rye mowed down .

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Thanks for watching and commenting! Yes sir, they will hammer that stuff all winter long. Thanks for sharing what your having success with in your area! I appreciate it!

[@nathanlester5054]

Great information and tips Wes! Thank you for sharing your food plot knowledge with us. We also plant mixtures of the 3 (wheat, oats, cereal rye) here in the South. My fields get hit so hard that I normally overseed them with cereal rye in early December. We plant a lot of Elbon Cereal Rye around here but I have found the deer here prefer Nelson Cereal Rye if you can get it. We also plant a lot of Marshall ryegrass for winter pastu6and the deer love it as well.....and no; Marshall dies of when summer arrives and does not reseed itself. You have to replant it each Fall as it is an annual ryegrass seed.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Nathan thanks for watching and commenting! Thanks so much for sharing your experience and what has worked for you in your area! I think it’s really fun to look down in the comments and see what folks are using in different areas and having good results with! Thanks

[@RipToeMountain]

SouthEast Ohio - Planning on tilling in Cereal Rye and broadcasting ontop clover (fusion and Clover) both Whitetail institute products. All my soybean plots failed this spring but the Wi Fusion did great so I'm going with that and cereal rye now on all my plots. Anyway, weeds and crabgrass are wearing my plots out so should I just plan on killing the rye next spring with herbicide and going full clover/chickory? I'm just a little worried adding the rye will prevent me from being able to kill the crabgrass this fall and it will overtake the clover?

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

So if I’m understanding your right, you’ve got clover plots with crabgrass in them that your about to plant in cereal rye? If that’s the case, just spray the clover with poast before you plant cereal rye that will take care of the grass. If your meaning your about to start sewing a new plot of clover and cereal rye together and worried about next spring, you can simply mow it, spray it with poast next spring, or you can let It mature and die. Let me know if they didn’t answer your question.

[@RipToeMountain]

@@DIYfoodplotpro the second response answered my question. I just plowed under the bean plot which was mostly crabgrass and now I plan on planting cereal rye and clover and your second response helped. Thanks and keep putting out these videos they really help.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

@@RipToeMountain sounds good, glad I could help! Thanks for the support! Either way you want to terminate the cereal rye next spring will work….no worries there! Good luck with the plots!

[@patrothwell9138]

Is the a Idifference between oats and folage oats.

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Pat thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! Forage oats are bred specifically for maximum amount of biomass per plant, not necessarily the highest grain yield….which is exactly what we want for our wildlife food plots. There are many different types of oats out there, but I’ve always stuck with buck forage oats, I’ve had the best of luck with them, however they do come with a hefty price tag. Hope this helps!

[@patrothwell9138]

@DIYfoodplotpro thanks for the tips.Yes that helps me.cant wait for more videos

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

@@patrothwell9138 sure glad to have you on the channel! Thanks for tuning in!

[@patrothwell9138]

@@DIYfoodplotpro how it going tonight. We're do u get your Buck Forage oats from?

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

@@patrothwell9138 hey pat, you can get them online….but I went to my local farm store (coop) and asked if they could order them for me. They had a much cheaper rate per bag than what I could get online.

[@markpiersall9815]

Plant Triticale, Soybeans, Swamp White Oak and Persimmon trees. Suppress Coyote before Fawning season. Provide Water source with a gravel skirt and a covered mineral salt block. Salt blocks will increase animal health and often results in increased twinning of fawns.

[@markpiersall9815]

Consider installing a Screech Owl nest box. Owls eat rodents that host ticks, attract and feed pit vipers, Bobcats and Coyotes. Due to Forestry Management practices there are not enough quality nesting cavities for Screech Owls. Screech Owls mostly eat Deer mice and White-footed Forest mice just like Copperhead snakes.

[@patrothwell9138]

Sorry one more question what state r u in?

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

I’m in KY. Down on the southwestern part of the state!

[@patrothwell9138]

@DIYfoodplotpro 👍 I am in Michigan I am going to try some of those oats. I think Tractor Supply 👍

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

@@patrothwell9138 pat sounds great, watch out for winter kill, I wouldn’t be scared to plant some but I would use some cereal rye and winter wheat as well, since they won’t winterkill like the oats will

[@patrothwell9138]

@DIYfoodplotpro thanks again for the information

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

@@patrothwell9138 glad I could help! Glad to have you on the channel!

[@JohnnyPatrickFK9]

Can we buy buck forage oats at our local NYP ag store? Or do these need to be ordered? thanks

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Hey John, thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it! Last year I called my local farm store and ordered through them. I could have ordered them online but shipping was crazy high, so I went through the farm store and got them a good bit cheaper! Thanks.

[@tdawgcj7]

Keep it up!

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Thanks you Justin for the support! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@francoiselemeur7325]

yu don't see anything being planted. just a guy on a video in a field talking. we want to see him working

[@DIYfoodplotpro]

Thanks for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it. If you watch a lot of my videos you will see I describe how to do the plots and Also show me doing the plots. The reason some videos such as this is is talking and not much field work is I try to post my videos early enough that food plotters can watch this video and decide what to do this year not next year. So in order for me to do that I have to post this video well in advance b4 the time to plant these in my area. Hope this helps

[@francoiselemeur7325]

an other guy talking talking talking demonstrate stop talking