Obedient to a Pathetic Bishop? - Fr. Mark Goring, CC

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[@terriomalley181]

💙 “And Mary said, “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” (Luke 1:38) ♥️ “By obedience you give great glory to Me and gain merit for yourself.” - Words of Our Lord Jesus to St. Faustina (Diary, 28) ♥️ “My daughter, know that you give Me greater glory by a single act of obedience than by long prayers and mortifications.” - Words of Our Lord Jesus to St. Faustina (Diary 894) ♥️ “Yes, when you are obedient I take away your weakness and replace it with My strength. I am very surprised that souls do not want to make that exchange with Me.” - Words of Our Lord Jesus to St. Faustina (Diary, 381) ♥️ “Know this, My daughter, and act accordingly: anything, no matter how small it be, that has the seal of obedience to My representative is pleasing to Me and great in My eyes.” - Words of Our Lord Jesus to St. Faustina (Diary, 933) Excellent homily and message!! ♥️ Only by surrendering and humbly obeying God, by trusting in the Lord as a Way Marker and giving ourselves completely to His divine plan, just as Mary and the saints, like St. Faustina and St. Padre Pio did, can God work most powerfully through us and fill us with the joy of the Lord. Thank you Father Mark. “Jesus Feeds the Five Thousand” (recorded in all four Gospels, Matthew 14:13-21, Mark 6:31-44, Luke 9:12-17, and John 6:1-14) has been one of my favourite Bible passages since I first heard it at school when I was six years old and it is an amazing example of the love and power of our Lord when we surrender and trust in Him. God bless you always!! 💙 “And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Saviour,” (Luke 1:46-47) ♥️ Jesus, I trust in You! ♥️ ♥️ Viva Cristo Rey! ♥️

[@kevinerose]

@Mrs.G plus three Correct. Plus in the story, she did not immediately obey the superior. She went back to pray to Jesus if she should obey the superior or not. Always obey God first, not man. We must always refer back to the Bible to determine if a writing or teaching is proper for the Faith. Always obey God first. If you have a spiritual revelation, always try the spirits to ensure it aligns with the scripture.

[@joolz5747]

I prefer to obey Jesus Christ, not people.

[@Kitiwake]

Agreed.

[@Kitiwake]

@Mrs.G plus three correct.

[@Kitiwake]

@@joolz5747 like Luther

[@debbiefurtado9780]

When I prayed a rosary for Fr. Pavone's intentions this morning it was to give him comfort and strength as this difficult situation plays out. Praying that all involved stay in God"s Divine Will during their lifetimes.

[@Photo513Graphy]

Mr. Pavone did not keep his vow of obedience. Bishop, "I want you to come back to the diocese and take a parish." Mr. Pavone, "NO, I do not want to." Bishop, "You are to return to the diocese, and you will, under obedience, will take a new assignment." Mr. Pavone, "NO, I am not going to." Not being obedient to your bishop, does not fly.

[@blujeans9462]

That is so good to pray for him - but with an open mind you may find out there a bit more background about his dismissal. I personally do not know the entire truth, either - although I have heard some things that go beyond his anti abortion stance - only God knows everything. But, yes, pray for a just outcome for him, even if it may not be what you expect.

[@exxdrinker]

​@Photo513Graphy do you know he did not keep his vow of obedience?

[@Photo513Graphy]

@@roseann5562 Mr. Pavone himself has said this on the many interviews he has given as a commentary on his laicization- he determined that his prolife work was his vocation. His priesthood, his diocesan priesthood is his vocation. When your bishop tells you to do something, in obedience, you submit. You may share something with your bishop, but in the end, he has the final word. End of conversation and debate. The laity have no idea what this vow means - and sadly, some priests and bishops have forgotten it. Pointless what-aboutism, trying to point to other priests and bishops you do not like, is stupid.

[@Photo513Graphy]

@@blujeans9462 Mr Pavone and his supporters are trying to portray this decision as an attack on his pro-life, NOT TRUE. He is a disobedient priest, refused efforts by his bishop to reform. No more discussion. Bye Bye. It is likely none of us will get all the documents, so we can judge ourselves. Because, it is none of our business. It is a matter between a bishop and one of his priests. Sadly, Mr. Pavone's pride and his echo chamber have created a deception from which he has caused this extraordinary decision. What bishop, other than Strickland, would take him? NO ONE. The man is a toxin for a diocesan presbyterate. BYE BYE Mr. Pavone. He will do just fine....he has alot of money and many backers.

[@patw7945]

"...detachment from our own willfullness". That's a tough one Father. thank you for this powerful guidance.

[@libertasinveritas3198]

There is no way I will obey our Bishop. (Bishop Bätzing here in Germany - the leader of the synodal path). There is something higher than Church hierarchy and it's called moral law. If someone tells you to condemn sin and stop proclaiming God's word, that person is not for God and you should not obey.

[@Steven-rp8zo]

Correct, it's also called Gods laws and commandments. Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” James 4:4.

[@petemaverick4538]

Hard to be obedient and complicit when evil is being committed. St. Thomas More, pray for us.

[@judeyyudkin3183]

It is difficult. For me, having read the story of St. Padre Pio’s life makes it possible. If you haven’t read St. Padre Pio’s life story I definitely recommend it. Seeing the extreme examples of what he faced in dealing with various people in power within the church and how he handled it was enlightening. Even though people within the church were putting walls before him and in some cases egregiously so, he obeyed. God helped him through it and St. Padre Pio was still able to help millions regardless of the numerous attempts to stop him. When I have doubts about my faith the examples of how St. Padre Pio lived his life help me to believe and stay on the path to God. I hope this may be helpful to you.

[@AL-wn2tt]

These Bishops should read 1 Timothy 3. They should be beyond reproach. First they turned a blind eye to child abuse. Now abortion. How many little ones have to suffer? Jesus would never expect us to obey such people. They play this obedience card to manipulate people.

[@alexisrodrigues4767]

@@judeyyudkin3183 You cannot be obedient to a superior if that is to commit sin against God.

[@Jerds]

@@alexisrodrigues4767 of course. Has anyone asked you to sin? Obey the hierarchy in all things unless they ask you to sin objectively.

[@sissybrooks8588]

@@alexisrodrigues4767 not if the superior demands you sin.

[@terrikangas8310]

Lord help us, help me, to be obedient to your will. Amen

[@alexisrodrigues2608]

First obedient to Jesus Christ and then to superiors if not against any commandments of God.

[@annick2276]

@@alexisrodrigues2608 Absolutely said!! In WWII we prosecuted enemy for obeying unlawful, immoral orders. What if our prelates begin to preach and enforce orders against the true teaching of the Christ and His Mystical Body; The Church? Do we still remain obedient to our prelates? There is an important element of discernment here. Viva Christoy!

[@christineOfs]

That's right! Not to feelings and opinions of anti-gospel bishops that dont cancel demonic James Martin-supporting ALL OUT DRAG QUEENS! Pope Francis allows!

[@tpoz48]

In Vietnam, I was given an order to kill a wounded enemy soldier. I refused under the threat of court martial. Someone else did the "mercy killing". Sometime later the officer giving me the order told me he appreciated my sense of morality. By being disobedient, perhaps I changed his life.

[@maxineboxer9714]

There are clearly times when obedience is morally wrong. If you had followed that order, you would have been mentally destroyed. If the world had many more people like you, WWII would have been a different story. So obedience to God first. We should not obey someone who is wicked, bishop or otherwise.

[@tpoz48]

@@maxineboxer9714 I agree.

[@granmabern5283]

@@maxineboxer9714your conclusion is false logic.” we should not obey someone who is wicked..”. If that wicked someone is our lawful superior, and he/ she is giving a LAWFUL command, then we should INDEED , obey. We should also avoid calling them”wicked”. Love the sinner, hate the sin. These are my reflections on your comment, specifically. We probably agree on the principles.😅

[@granmabern5283]

@@tpoz48I bet you obeyed all of his lawful commands, though. And showed him due respect.😊

[@johndouglas4826]

@@granmabern5283 Agreed, however if they give you a wicked command then you must follow God

[@marytierney794]

You didn't say what to do when dealing with a "pathetic Bishop". Obedience should never be "blind". God bless.

[@zhozhoc]

I think he did. Separate yourself from your own willfulness. Remember that Jesus is a waymaker (The Way, in fact)

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

@@zhozhoc My will is to follow the teachings of God. I won't obey anyone who asks me to do different.

[@juice2307]

God teaches us to be obedient to the authorities he places over us. Even after healing someone he would send them to fulfill what was required in the law.

[@johndouglas4826]

@@juice2307 But not blindly, If they are asking us to do something that would be disobedient to the Lord then the Lord takes precedent!

[@njorogemuzungu5127]

He certainly didn't, Mary. Which is very often the way with priests who snipe at the Papcy and the Magisterium from the sidelines. They insinuate their opposition and criticism, but never come right out with it, because of course that could threaten their position within the Church that they are criticising. And they love their position more than anything.

[@CatholicCristero]

Faustina & Pio were never asked to do anything against their conscience! There can NEVER be BLIND OBEDIENCE. Just Saying!

[@ADDM1531]

I could not be more proud of this priest for preaching this message right now.

[@vivbrowne3389]

Fr. Mark does this obedience apply to priests even when their bishop orders them to do things that are against the Magisteriium? Shouldn't their obedience be to God the Father and His holy mandates rather than the flawed - or worse - evil intentions of a bishop who could potentially lead his priests and the faithful astray??

[@wms72]

Certainly. It goes without saying no order to sin is to be obeyed.

[@heloaafcha7914]

Only if he asks you to sin, that’s the only time when you don’t obey to your bishop

[@BibbyGee]

Pray for us here in Scotland where our ‘government’ is hell bent on destroying the natural way of life.

[@marygardner9762]

Our Pope in Rome told us to get the vaccine. I am disobedient!

[@susanfennimore3152]

Good for u ,my son took one to keep his job and it nearly killed him and left him with heart disease, now it’s being investigated , the “ pope” took it? Maybe it was water!

[@annakavalec835]

God bless you!!!

[@reginapontes5672]

You were right in this specific situation and Fr. Goring is wrong. Jorge has even let the pagan idol into St. Peters Bascilica. That man who welcomes Joe and Nancy that in turn facilitated the murder of millions of innocence here in US and abroad yet attacks the priest who has dedicated his entire ministry to Christ's littlest ones. I disagree with you big time on this one Fr. Goring.

[@elliestretchprays7851]

I refused the clot shot too. This RN is ashamed at how the medical field behaved regarding the acceptance of mandating of an experimental jab. I was also ashamed that the Pope who has no medical training fell for the propaganda and out of fear made mandates too.

[@annakavalec835]

@@elliestretchprays7851 God bless you for speaking out!

[@juneclairepavese7537]

We need to pray for our priests. ALL priests. God bless you Father Mark. ❤️🕊🔥💙📿

[@zionlion4445]

🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@gladysjones1688]

@@zionlion4445k I’m

[@tpoz48]

Please God give people the strength and courage to fight against the evil and corruption that has invaded our institutions. I ask this in the name of our Lord. 🙏

[@jeanettekovacs2550]

I totally green with you Father. Giving up our will is what God the father wants us to do so that He can use us as a tool in His hand.

[@anthonhysalomone2025]

A message that I needed to hear in the present situation involving Father Pavone! Thank you for a timeless reminder and plunge into the heart of our Catholic faith!

[@pamkunz6619]

After researching the Father Pavone situation, it became apparent that he had been obedient to Bishop and even had the backing of the Vatican. He was wise enough to keep all correspondence from those involved. As usual, media is not providing entire information. Please, I'm not saying Fr. is right or wrong, but I am saying there are powerful people against him who are trying to destroy Christianity and, in particular, true Catholicism. Wishing health, prosperity, and peace to everyone this blessed season.

[@MamiShaun]

Beautiful message Fr Goring. Every now and the God does things like this to remind us who is in charge, Him, not us. We often put ourselves on the Pedestal unintentionally and His mercy demands we get knocked off every so often.

[@kategoddard5076]

Thank you Fr. Mark! This is so reassuring and beautiful! I love your words: Our Lord is a way maker! This speaks to me of the childlike trust we need in the Lord, and that whatever happens or is decided, the Lord’s plans will come to pass. This fills me with great joy and hope! It also reminds me that an obedient heart and soul is a peaceful one, because the Lord knows what’s best for us, and he wants us to live life abundantly which will happen when we are obedient. God bless you.🙏🏻

[@jodieelizabeth4905]

Amen 🙏

[@zionlion4445]

🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@kathysauceda2923]

Wow! I needed this today. I'm so guilty about wanting things my way and right now! Thanks for putting this out there!!!!!!

[@kathleencurran7805]

Obedience has its limits.

[@zhozhoc]

The blessing here is that Fr Pavone is being offered the opportunity to become a saint! I pray he embraces it!

[@michellebalnozan3972]

These are excellent points Father is making which we need to hear periodically!!!

[@michellebalnozan3972]

@jpd4676 You're Wrong. Merry Christmas.

[@michellebalnozan3972]

@jpd4676 If you don't know the truth there's nothing I can say to appease you. God Bless and Merry Christmas!

[@michellebalnozan3972]

@jpd4676 If you think you alone have the keys to salvation you are egocentric and wrong. Are you trying to convince me or yourself? There's no way you have any idea if I'm saved. You just want to argue and don't like catholics. Like I said, literally nothing I say will appease you. You have your arrows ready to sling, and you've already decided. A mere woman on youtube will not change your heart. Goodnight.

[@321voices-kimberlysunderma7]

Dear Fr. Mark- 😇❤️🙏 l remember how they treated you here in 2019- Houston, TX in the Archdioceses of Galveston- Houston. You spoke out about the Church and Sexual Abuse Scandal of Mr. Mc Carrick. You were obedient and you left to go back to Canada 🇨🇦🙏 Jesus, Christ, Son Of God, Have Mercy On Us Sinners! 🙏✝️🙏

[@mcprolife29]

So they silenced him, not to speak out for the abused children under the obedience obligation. If he didn't obey he would of been cxled and took his title of priest away. 💔 Off to Canada 🇨🇦 So sad.

[@321voices-kimberlysunderma7]

@@mcprolife29 Yes, I believe that is what happened and he had to delete over 20 or more KZbin videos as well. He was creating St. Joseph’s Battalion, a group of lay people to stand up against the sexual abuse crisis and he was going to have a Wall of Support of pictures of people from all around the world 🌎 that he was going to pray for and put in his office at the Catholic Charismatic Center, (CCC) here in Houston Texas. Then he left out of obedience, back to Canada 🇨🇦🙏. We love our order of Priests which he is a part of- The Companions of the Cross ✝️❤️🕊🔥 and my husband and I have been attending CCC for over 27 years. We still pray for Fr. Mark on a daily basis and our Beloved Companions of the Cross here at CCC, the USA 🇺🇸 and Canada too! 🇨🇦 😇🙏✝️❤️🕊🔥💒

[@zionlion4445]

🌹Praying for you! 🌹Praying for all the Priests...all the Bishops, and everyone in this channel. 🌹Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, we love you, please pray for souls! 🌹Jesus Christ I trust in you! PS. When I first prayed for all the US Bishops, I had a big red binder with all their names, and notes on some of them, and some of the ones I didn't like were crossed out so I could barely read their names. But God showed me he wants me to ' love them all unconditionally ', and made me feel deeper and deeper ecstasy with each name that I prayed out loud for. Both the 'good', 'the bad' and the 'ugly' Bishops got the same holy fire of love treatment from The Lord!😊 "Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder"😊

[@321voices-kimberlysunderma7]

@@zionlion4445 Thanks Zion Lion for sharing! Love the Sinner ❤️ but Hate the Sin 🙏! Prayers for you and your family! May you have a blessed Christmas Season and Happy.New Year! 🥳🙏❤️🎉🎈🎄🕊

[@zionlion4445]

@@321voices-kimberlysunderma7 Thank you so much for your kindness, sister in Christ, Kimberly!💚🙏♥️ Yes, I was pretty amazed how much the sweetest and most holy Trinity was working on/purifying my heart in this process, and I can only hope that 'The Boys' received something good on their end too... Ironically, it all goes back to 'who am I to judge'... I'm just ecstatic to be able to do my job of praying, and leave the sorting and the judging to someone else..I love being at His Majesty's Secret Service!💚🙏♥️ Even though at times it can feel like I've gone bananas , and I'm sure I've made others feel the same way. Like Father Mark once said, maybe when people first experience this fire of love, they should be 'locked up the first 9 months...or 18 months in my case, he he 😉) Praise be to our Lord, King, Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ!🫒♥️💚♥️🫒 I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!💚🙏♥️ From California with Love! 💚🙏♥️

[@Gottaloveguitars427]

I have a lot to think about thank you Father for these words of wisdom! The spiritual life is a constant humbling of our pride, and this has humbled me. God have mercy on us all for our disobedience and selfishness.

[@jodieelizabeth4905]

Amen 🙏

[@leticiaflores5725]

Thank you Father for reminding us to be humble and obedient, and put aside our will and pride. To surrender ourselves to God, He will take care of the rest. Its not easy to be obedient when we think the other person is wrong but not impossible if we believe and trust God.Such a powerful homily! God bless you 🙏

[@martinortiz9000]

If there weren't Priests who stand against bad Bishops, Cardinal even the Pope, people would not believe that we indeed have a future in the Catholic Church. These Priests give us courage to stand against evil.

[@gloriacheon5952]

This time I don't understand why What the Bishop says is more Important that what Our Lord asks us to do. The Bishops in Germany ask their people to Accept the Marriage of man & man, woman & woman and they should Not accept that.

[@joolz5747]

Dear father Mark. You are a beautiful man a holy man. I must differ with you and I’m not necessarily correct however WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? Did Jesus think that we should follow someone who is spreading error? Jesus always said FOLLOW ME. I believe that the church has people in it sadly as bishops, who do want THEIR own way. Each person has to follow the Lord Jesus. And if it goes against what their superior is saying…then I don’t agree for them to follow the superior. Jesus Christ is who we follow! We were given an intellect and will and a conscience to figure out our decisions. I know this is confusing for everybody so we all have to think of our individual relationships with the Lord Jesus. God bless you and keep you in this crazy time.

[@williammann6198]

Thank you for this Father Goring. You addressed exactly what I needed. 🗝☁️✝️🕊🗝🏹💒🙏🕯🌍🧂🌍

[@williammann6198]

@@jpd4676 You don't even display your name, begone Masonic evil doer!

[@sapentium]

Thank you Fr Goring for this powerful homily, very apt for our times, in the age of the "me" culture

[@thomaspospiech6764]

"Not my will, but Your will be done!"

[@elhpasu]

Thank you Father for this loving reminder to be obedient

[@austinkairnes5549]

What a great homily! Thank you, Fr Mark

[@kathryn.wooldridge]

Thank you father. I needed to hear this today.

[@bagobeans]

Powerful homily. Some of your brother priests would benefit from listening to this. Its not about them, but about Christ. God bless you!! ⚘

[@smurfred1]

It would be good if all in the hierarchy remembered this also😀

[@baseballmomof8]

If you are referring to Fr Pavone you have not heard his full story. Do not rush to judgment.

[@smurfred1]

@@baseballmomof8 Amen!

[@bagobeans]

@@baseballmomof8 He was very forthcoming in his vids. It's okay not to worship a priest.

[@baseballmomof8]

@@bagobeans agreed

[@michellegarrison3229]

Thank you for comfirming to my heart what the Lord has been teaching me again and again. Pray that as a school teacher I will know how to teach the importance of obedience to a godless generation and model it always by God's grace. It is a value no longer supported by society in general.

[@annamaria54321]

Excellent points and reminders. Thank you, Fr. Mark!

[@susandagenais4035]

“If God wants something to happen, you better believe He will make it happen” so true as difficult as this must be when wrong is being allowed… God is able to use this obedience as a seed. Good will come from this obedience. Let us pray for this difficult surrender.

[@paulhudson4254]

Fr. Mark, You keep speaking truth, watch your back! 🌺✝️🌺

[@fredpierce6097]

Outstanding Homily…..praise from a non- Catholic Christian!

[@allisonb.8356]

You are Always Right On Time, Jesus, Speaking Through Others What I Need To Hear!!! Fr Mark, Thank You for being obedient and Sharing Your Beautiful Homily! 🙌🏻🔥🔥🔥🙌🏻

[@patodwyer721]

Thank you Fr.Mark for your guidance

[@carlz7777]

Thank you for such a beautiful Homily - and explanation of the importance of obedience! I recalled a non-Catholic journalist who interviewed some nuns. When she expressed how it must be difficult to remain celibate to the Mother Superior, she was informed that that was easy - being obedient is the difficult one!

[@chamitacaraquena99]

Our Lord Jesus in our mist!! My soul magnifies the Lord!!❤ Obedience is well directed love. Thank you father Mark ! Thank you Jesus!

[@TeresaAvila1]

insightful talk Fr. thank you .

[@deborahkeane6404]

You are a delight to listen too

[@cheraybisaya]

Being obedient all the time is a challenge on my end, always ask God for the grace! Thanks for addressing this Fr., may all the good priests, cardinals & bishops will always stand up for God & His commandments & may God bless them all the time with all the strength & courage they need!

[@barbararussell520]

Thank you Fr Mark. During the snow storm my fr Tim told me to stay at home. I didn't want to but at 2:00 am I believe I found obedience. You just confirmed this for me. May our Lord Jesus Christ be with you and bless you

[@Titan500J]

I'm still reading the book, Humility of Heat. Your message father dovetails into it perfectly. In these tumultuous times humility/obedience is key. Thank you Father ✝️ Pray the Rosary ✝️

[@carlparlatore294]

Padre excellent homily - I was in the military for 26 yrs. and I had to follow orders (be obedient to my superiors) especially in the time of war - orders that put me in harms way - however - there were rare exceptions when IF given illegal orders it was my duty to not follow them - my point is that even in religious life if you were given illegal or, more importantly, immoral orders are you not bound to follow the Dear Lord rather than an immoral superior? God love you and may God bless your priesthood!

[@mcprolife29]

💯💯💯

[@jwolsk2]

Fr. thank you for your wisdom. This works except for instances of abuse, especially in marriage. If the abuser is giving "feedback" they are gaslighting. I used to take words like this of wisdom and try and work on myself while the abuse continued. Be wise in identifying psychological and verbal abuse and manipulation and do not be obedient to that. If you are being abused, talk to a holy priest and a good/ Catholic therapist

[@gloriaboisvert9731]

Thank you Father for this enlightening sermon. I needed to hear it to clear my head. You are a special servant of God...keep up the good work. We need you.

[@deborahstrickland9845]

@Asia Wu yes!!!

[@mariasardos6860]

Wise words Father, thank you. I go back and forth on this with the way the world is going,especially concerning the Catholic Church.

[@JohnHenrysaysHi]

Thank you, Father. God bless you. Please stay warm, and have a joy-filled day!

[@sitolm9791]

You are so right Fr. It is “Thoughtless Willfulness” that destroys all of us! We want it our way to the point that we don’t even think about it… we just thoughtlessly do whatever we want when we want. What a shame! We put our own selves into hell!

[@laurenclyde]

I was pondering about obedience in light of The Saints’ writings as well, and their examples of living that out, especially when they don’t agree with or understand their superior! Very true that God does bring good out of difficult situations even when obedience is a daunting task. Yet, when I heard Fr. Pavone share in an interview with Dr. Taylor M., the story is about how he focused on obeying, and did. When he could not, it was involving ambiguity, not his own ambiguity. Rather, conflicting messages presented to him. I believe he has been prayerfully discerning and navigating these tumultuous challenges for 21 years. He, and Dr. Marshall openly acknowledge in that conversation, that in fact, Father is not perfect, and is a sinner. Would appreciate prayerful perspective on that interview 😌🕊💟

[@tsr3779]

Knowing first hand the Bishop in question…almost certain Pavone is telling the truth…this bishop likes to cancel and silence the laity.

[@granmabern5283]

Thankyou for your input. I now have reasons to listen to that interview. 😅So many people on here virtue signalling without references. I did listen to a few clips of Father Pavone so far and he seemed straight up, from what I’ve seen. Saint Padre Pio refused to give the donations he’d received for the hospital, to his superiors, who had made bad investments and were facing bankruptcy.😊 I’m a member of the SSPX Third Order and we’ve been bashed for “ disobedience” by comfycafeteriacathos for decades. (By the fruit you know the tree.). It’s a painful Passion we live in.😢❤

[@baseballmomof8]

It’s interesting to consider these things. Yes, obedience to legitimate authority. At the core of our problems in the Church is the issue of legitimacy.

[@benedictegaspard5867]

Excellent preaching yes, with obedience ! But how to act for a priest who discovers child abuse by another priest. He reports to his bishop, and the bishop does not act upon this ? A priest is he obl8ged to obey to his bishop , when he reports this sin and the bishop does not act upon it ?

[@reginapontes5672]

Excellent example

[@granmabern5283]

@@reginapontes5672no, it’s not an “ excellent example”. It’s more like a question that has been burned into the minds of millions by communist media propaganda, and which people parrot. A priest has reasons to think some evil will happen to someone under his care? He thinks he can prevent it? Then he should pray, AND try to prevent it. Just like YOU SHOULD. According to the USA bureau of statistics, 10 TIMES as many TEACHERS are CONVICTED of molestations, than priests that are merely ACCUSED. LOTS of criminally negligent parents around. 😢

[@granmabern5283]

Benedict, If you, yourself, call the firemen and then just sit around and watch your neighbours burn, while griping about how the firemen are not doing their job, whereas you could be bringing ladders and water... maybe the firemen are already at another fire.... What your comment insinuates, is that, somehow, obedience is involved. Let’s say, the firemen arrive, and they say, “ we’ll take it from here, we are trained and have equipment, please stand back and pray” then, yes, obedience would be required. Then, once you have obeyed, SUPPOSE you ACTUALLY SEE the firemen playing cards and letting the neighbours burn??? You PRAY, phone the police, call other neighbours, bring ladders and water, pray. If the firemen say “ play cards with us instead, let them burn”, then OF COURSE you do NOT obey.

[@caedanjennings]

Fr Mark THANK YOU I was praying someone would point this out oh BLESS you Father! 🕊❤️‍🔥

[@Neverquit...7]

Thank you, Father! Obedience is the most treasured request of our Lord and God is the WAY MAKER! thank you and Happy New Year. God bless you, Father.

[@MM22272]

Obedience assumes trust which is necessary for salvation. Have mercy on those who profess trust in Jesus, but fail to obey Him, especially for those of us who fail to avoid occasions of sin! Grant us moral compunction, Lord!

[@piusmary1115]

Thank you Father! I'm a religious and I can understand how difficult it is to be obedient.

[@Eyes3rd]

Thank you Father. When I read St. Faustina's Diary, I was moved by the depth of her obedience to God. I am grateful that I took your advice to to read the book. God bless you.

[@pageriskin8743]

Thank you, Father Goring, for your very clear direction for us. I have been considering the obedience you showed in Texas. I am also considering the obedience of a certain well-known and beloved priest who is so valiant in defense of the unborn. I came to the conclusion 2 days ago that obedience is deeply important, and that there is more than 1 way to accomplish a goal with the help of Jesus and Heavenly Father. Thank you for clarifying this.

[@gretababin3440]

God has shown me this so many times! Thank you Fr Mark for this reminder as I strive to do His will! God bless you with a very (Mary) Christmas through the intercession of St. Joseph! Love and prayers 🙏 ❤ 💕

[@maryfitzpatrick6179]

For a young priest you are so blessed to have the wisdom to be obedient to your superiors. God's will always triumph's over all obstacles.❤❤

[@ericmadsen7470]

Give us this day my daily bread. Fr's homily is my daily bread that feeds me and fills me all the day long.

[@ciaranclancy3296]

Spent some time in the military and there's a saying, If you don't have obedience to your superior's, you don't have an army, God Bless Fr Mark 🙏 🇮🇪 ☘️

[@zionlion4445]

🌹Happy belated birthday, Ciaran! 🌹Praying for you! 🌹May the peace of Christ rule your heart!

[@ciaranclancy3296]

@@zionlion4445 Have a Happy, Holy and Peaceful season 🙏 and Thank You for the Birthday wishes 😀🇮🇪☘️

[@joannimpastato2817]

I’m about to loose my faith over the good priest that can no longer practice their vocation while very sinful pietist are elevated to higher positions in the Vatican by Francis! Where and what can we do to help these persecuted clergy we so desperately need?

[@zionlion4445]

Pray for all the current and future martyrs of His Church. All Christians march to the beat of 'their own personal crucifixion', in one way, or another, sooner or later...🌹🌹🌹 For "Follow me, follow me, said The Lord one day to me...in my simple joy and ecstasy, I didn't think to ask Him where, because He knows I will go anywhere He takes me, including Calvary...🌹🌹🌹

[@mjillini77]

Praise be Jesus Christ for this message Fr Goring Truly from Holy Spirit and resonated in my soul. Pray 🙏 for me father for I am a sinful man. Viva Cristo Rey!

[@christopherTYJ]

The Little Flower, St. Therese of Lisieux, wrote: Simple obedience is best.

[@jodieelizabeth4905]

Amen 🙏

[@theresamcginn9378]

THAT was powerful!!! Very timely, too, but one of those eternal truths.

[@francesbernard2445]

🙂This sermon is reassuring to all of us Christians. Mark I promise to continue refraining from for example the mischievious grabbing of someone else's belt while I am at the time on my own uninspired initiative acting in the role of a stronger than expected clown. Instead I will let the Lord do a much better job than me of supervising someone who appears to need a reminder to slow down with their decision making on what to do next.

[@CC-cr1oz]

I still question this "obedience" thing because my lady friend was obedient to her husband even she was abused/ tortured. The husband went to her office, took a typewriter and hit her on her head. Employees were shocked. She went to the preist for help to get some advice but the preist sided to the husband. She was devastated and heartbroken, the advice of the preist will kill her so she decided to leave the husband.

[@granmabern5283]

Conflating several issues under the banner of “ obedience” doesn’t clarify your point. That husband doing evil deeds does not make obedience a bad thing. She could have decided to obey, and then maybe become a Martyr for Obedience. She could also have decided to leave, but still honor God and pray for her husband’s conversion. The priest is always on BOTH SPOUSES SIDES, because that is his sacred duty. The two shall be one... I know a woman, suffering terribly at the hands of her spouse. The holy priest said “ you MAY leave, but you are not obliged to leave”. She chose to stay. ( she did leave temporarily a few times, out of necessity) Her husband improved, by the Grace of God, and is still improving. A wife could be obliged to leave if the husband is trying to FORCE her to sin, or if necessary to protect the children. I’ve heard plenty of people blaming priests for their own sins.😢

[@christineOfs]

Clarity - obedience as long as it doesnt go against the teachings of Jesus Christ. When there is a bishop or priest that goes against the Gospel-Doctrine-Dogmas, we do not obey to evil. We are always first and obedient to the Eternal Word of God! Many get confused because of the "spirit of Vatican II post-concillior council of modernism ideology - to be nice nice spread thruout the Church now; caused chaos". Bishops and Priests are ordained to get us to Heaven -- too protect our souls! Merry CHRIST-mass! Father Goring! Thank you for the reminders of Obedience because we can become impatient with pathetic bishops, but they may be just weaker, scared of bad, raveous Cardinals, so we pray for them. There's still no excuse; they know what they have signed up for, including Bishops!

[@lorettagallagher9577]

Thank you Fr Mark.

[@janetplonka8110]

There are limits to obedience from some Bishops. Many are abusive & manipulators. I wonder if many priests had “to be obedience” to their bishops for sexual favors & self gratification for themselves! They have destroyed these priests & seminarians!

[@papadan3]

You see.. I trust Jesus not bishops or cardinals etc

[@jerryjacona5013]

Fr Mark we need you

[@ourladybvm]

What if your bishop tells you to do something which is against the teachings of Jesus ?

[@j.knight9335]

Reject it. Heretics lose jurisdiction before any pronouncement.

[@carecc7191]

This priest is a Novus Ordo Modernist. He will tell you that just couldn't happen. Listen to the late Fr. Gregory Hesse, canon lawyer and Thomistic theologian on wrongful obedience. If a religious or layperson obeys a SINFUL ORDER; he/she is complicit in the sin. Canon law 212 gives Catholics both the right and the DUTY to call out heresy in PUBLIC to a cleric at any level, including the Pope. Fr. Goring has a friend who claims to speak DIRECTLY with God the Father, Goring also believes in the fraud of Medjugorje which was dismissed as a long con by THREE local bishops, and he promotes this fake saint: Faustina, whose DIary was on the list of forbidden books until the Modernist heretic, JPII dug it up. Listen to the Defeat Modernism channel if you want the truth about the Novus Ordo counterfeit church.

[@granmabern5283]

Obviously, that is a whole nother case in point.

[@mikeyangel1067]

That’s why we have canon law..

[@littledaughter1]

Yes!!! Thank you for speaking about this. Disobedience is where all our dysfunction comes from.

[@silviamc2117]

What they did to father Pavonne is horrendous!

[@stephenjohnson9632]

The way Fr Pavone acted was equally horrendous. Being zealously pro-life does give carte blanche approval to act in any way including being boorish, sacrilegious, and openly & publicly rebellious.

[@jenyoung2473]

There is an element of both sides being at fault. But I trust fr marks gentle but honest opinion. FR pavone was dealt with harshly which I m sure will not stand up but he should still he obedient .

[@sorayahashem3124]

@@stephenjohnson9632 IF We are not zealously fighting and speaking out against the evil murder of helpless babies, then we have lost our humanity. Staying silent is being complicit and giving permission for evil to continue . Evil is very loud, sneaky, manipulative and chaotic. It hates ANYTHING of God and anything God loves and is . God did not ask us to stay on the sidelines and not speak Truth .

[@321voices-kimberlysunderma7]

Dear Fr. Mark- 😇❤️🙏 l remember how they treated you here in 2019- Houston, TX in the Archdioceses of Galveston- Houston. You spoke out about the Church and Sexual Abuse Scandal of Mr. Mc Carrick. You were obedient and you left to go back to Canada 🇨🇦🙏 Jesus, Christ, Son Of God, Have Mercy On Us Sinners! 🙏✝️🙏

[@glennrogers5568]

Praised be Jesus Christ.

[@ivanhicks887]

Dear Father Goring - -I just came across Your channel - - -God is Truly in Your soul - -I am 90 and heard a lot of Priests - -I Pray that - and Know that - You will continue to be such a Blessed Priest -God Bless You-

[@mariachico4456]

When one looks at the teachings coming out of Germany & sadly even Rome, hard to be obedient. Catholics need discernment not blind obedience.

[@doverbeachcomber]

And as a foundation for discernment, they need knowledge of the Faith - which many bishops have omitted to teach them. The good news is that it's never been easier for the average Catholic to own and study the texts that will permit them to get that knowledge.

[@dan77734]

The Martyr St Thomas More said "Conscience is the voice of Christ". Imagine being in the reformation in England?

[@JesusMary_I_Loveyousavesouls]

Very true Father, obedience is better than sacrifice said the Lord through Prophet Samuel to king saul. A priest makes 3 vows of obedience, chastity and poverty and of this 3, obedience is the hardest because it means giving up your will for will of God and unless priests obeys the bishop, he is simply doing his will and not God's will

[@youniahawel8608]

Amen, that's awesome homily father Mark ❤️‍🩹 thank you

[@michtfjs]

Beautiful message.

[@lauranocita8776]

Our obedience is to the Creator of all things.

[@bernadinemorris8829]

Thank you Fr Mark.. I needed this message. God has spoken thru you. God Bless you for this reminder🙏🙏

[@Photo513Graphy]

I rarely agree with Fr. Mark and his fear-filled preaching - but here, on obedience, i agree with him. God will find a way, if the work we are doing is in the will of God. Throughout my ministry, I can attest to this powerful experience- detachment from my will - willfulness - the "no" from our superior-bishop, is a good check for our vocation and the necessary freedom I must have to serve God.

[@janet4232]

Fear filled? Hardly. Pragmatic.

[@irenedsouza794]

Fr Mark Goring good evening 🙏 wonderful blessed talk St Faustina 🙏 so much she was humble after saying yes to Jesus that is why God made 🙏 so great also St Padre pio wen in great pain all he did for Jesus had for mama Mary so many Roserys after Roserys thank you fr iam working and listening 🎶.

[@milkdud3427]

It’s hard to understand why Jesus submitted himself to the Roman goverment because they were pitiless and frankly disgusting, and human nature says why didn't he just remove them and set up the kingdom right then and there, and avoid all this suffering--but he was so sad in the garden that he was “sorrowful unto death” and he did say in the Garden “Father, if there is some way for this cup to pass me by, please let it pass me by, but thy will be done.”

[@heathervancalcar4446]

Because He Loves you... it wasn't just for then... but he saved YOU from your sins even now... me too. Also he was sad because he wanted to stay on Earth longer. He loved us like any Family member and felt sad he would leave.. when perhaps we weren't ready. However... His sorrow was for us.. not His Cross.. Truth comes from the fact that throughout the stations of the cross He Gave others more comfort, the He received himself. You really think that only the Romans had evil? Remember when satan tempted Jesus in the desert.... He showed him all the Kingdoms of the World that HE controlled... and told Jesus he could rule them if only he "bowed" to satan... Romans where just the tip of the evil that is rooted in this world. That is why this didn't end at the death on the cross.... but with The Resurrection and Ascension back into Heaven where Jesus is no longer bound by the Laws of Time. But you are right... He didn't *have* to do all that... But for You and me.. He did.

[@doverbeachcomber]

Jesus had a specific job to do. He had to be killed unjustly in order for the sins of mankind to be forgiven. He knew what was coming if He obeyed His Father's will in this, and asked to be excused from it. God's answer was No, and Jesus obediently went to his death to do the job He knew only He could do. That's true heroism, the best there has ever been. But it was direct obedience to the God the Father, not to any earthly authority.

[@mariaj.escamilla7934]

Fiat Fr. Goring, Lord, give us the grace to be obedient. All for the glory and honor of our Lord, Amen! 🙏🏼❤️🤍💚✝️

[@gregorybrown4664]

This is an absolutely amazing and very relevant message today!!!! Thank you for your bravery, Father Mark. Saints Pio, Faustina, and all others known for obedience even when the decision was seemingly counter-productive, pray for us!!

[@jpdebartolo]

Mary’s obedience to God is quite different than obedience to a bishop. I believe it was pope Leo the 13th that said, if the Holy Spirit’s direction to you to is different from what I say follow the Holy Spirit.

[@doverbeachcomber]

Quite so. Mary was responding to a direct request from God, delivered by His angel. Most bishops are neither God nor angels.

[@ChristinaMacDonald777]

Once again! Great words said Fr. Goring in Jesus's Holy and Precious name🙌💫✝️💫. Amen.

[@zionlion4445]

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[@jennyhayek2671]

From Australia! Feeling so blessed and empowered by the superb articulated delivery of your topics. You continue to motivate, inspire us by your teachings. Can’t thank you enough Fr Mark Goring 🙏Wishing you all the blessings of Christmas🎄have safe & Joyful 2023

[@guyrochefort9722]

Thank you fr Mark God bless you 🙏 Lord 🕊️ please help us to be obedient and the understanding your will be done, I trust you always I receive it today in the name of Jesus father son holyspirit Amen 🕊️🙏✝️💟🛐❤️

[@PInk77W1]

If obedience was only for good bishops We wouldn’t need obedience

[@doverbeachcomber]

Nonsense. Obedience, properly understood, comes into play whether the order is good or bad, easy or hard. Obedience is easy if the order is good or easy to follow. It's harder when the order is difficult to follow. And if the order is clearly evil, it may be our duty to disobey and take the consequences.