Obi-Wan’s Biggest Betrayal of the Jedi Code!

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@Ravenfanatic5
@Ravenfanatic5 18 сағат бұрын
Bro code b4 Jedi code😎
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 18 сағат бұрын
Your pinned well done📌
@Ravenfanatic5
@Ravenfanatic5 18 сағат бұрын
​@@kingshadow8782🙏🏽thanks
@andy2200
@andy2200 16 сағат бұрын
Beat me to it. You have.
@watasht0ff360
@watasht0ff360 9 сағат бұрын
Anakin was so full of it. He is the one who betrayed Obi-Wan and we don’t talk about it enough. No one loved him more, no one cared about him more, no one stood by him more, no one supported him more, no one looked up to him more, no one admired him more than Obi-Wan He got too full of himself and forgot to simply look at what Obi-Wan was and what he actually did for him. Only five other people saw Anakin in this way. He thought he lost everything but he ALWAYS had Obi-Wan. That’s why Obi-Wan’s pain is so thick on Mustafar and after. I hope Anakin apologised to him in the afterlife because he really really hurt him
@DarthSardukar
@DarthSardukar 5 сағат бұрын
@@watasht0ff360 this part, Anakin was ALWAYS whining, complaining, disobeying, ect. Anakins turn was 80% him and 20% everyone else. Ungrateful Jedi
@OlympusKnight
@OlympusKnight 18 сағат бұрын
Brothers sometimes trust eachother in hopes the other won't go too far, but then it becomes too late and loyalty becomes the knife that stabs you.
@luciferneverchanges5841
@luciferneverchanges5841 12 сағат бұрын
or lightsaber in this case.
@FordLancer
@FordLancer 15 сағат бұрын
“You were my brother Anakin! I loved you.” That line, the emotions behind it and knowing how he helped hide Anakin’s secret relationship with Padme further deepens the pain he felt from the betrayal. He was willing to hide this from the order even though he was on the council because he cared for Anakin.
@TheForbiddenLean
@TheForbiddenLean 18 сағат бұрын
"If you pull baddies, you'll become less powerful than you can possibly imagine."
@artiemedley9369
@artiemedley9369 16 сағат бұрын
Obi-Wan loved Satine, and knew that informing the Council would make him a hypocrite and, he thought Padmè would be a balancing counter to keeping him on the side of good. Anakin never made clear to Obi-Wan his fear from his visions.
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
Yes but he wouldn't be a hypocrite cuz he never acted on them
@droy47
@droy47 Сағат бұрын
@@ruchiawasthi4174 Oh yes he did. He was never married to Satine, but you don't look at someone that way unless you've done other things with them. As has been mentioned, it wasn't against the Code for Jedi to have girlfriends and boyfriends, even relationships. They just couldn't get attached, which Obi Wan was definitely attached because he told Satine he would have left the Order for her. Satine was a perfect balance for Obi Wan because she would never selfishly force him to do that, she was pretty wise.
@droy47
@droy47 18 сағат бұрын
I think Yoda knew. He purposely sent Anakin on assignments with Padme even when it wasn't necessary. It was almost like Yoda was testing Anakin. Also possibly because he could see glimmers of the future he knew the way things were headed, maybe he thought he would give Anakin a little happiness before his life was destroyed.
@kajko2123
@kajko2123 15 сағат бұрын
Nah. No padme, no fall. Anakin has no reason to save palps.
@thosko98
@thosko98 4 сағат бұрын
I think Palpatine would still have found some other way to manipulate him though. ​@@kajko2123
@zurreal9783
@zurreal9783 18 сағат бұрын
Obi-wan is such a bro
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
FR
@okamireader5
@okamireader5 15 сағат бұрын
My own Jedi Code: Through Emotion, I learn Peace From Ignorance, I earn Knowledge In Passion, I seek Serenity Through Chaos, I find Harmony In Death, I become the Force Through the ever-changing shift of Emotion, I learn to find my center with patience and understanding and thus find Peace within myself. From the bittersweet bliss that is Ignorance, I earn the Knowledge of how to live, along with the burdens that come with it. In the throes and sparks of Passion, I seek the grounding of Serenity to root myself in the moment lest I be swept away. Through the unpredictable and random that is the Chaos of life and existence, I find the Harmony that comes from that which makes life worthwhile. In the end, whether my life has run its course whether naturally or abruptly, from Death I will ascend this mortal coil and thus become the Force.
@Gor85
@Gor85 9 сағат бұрын
Great
@nafizulsanko
@nafizulsanko 14 сағат бұрын
I remember a quote from Ashoka (clone wars) on the issue "we supposed to be compassionate to people yet we can't form attachments to them" she's right. It's a contradiction in the jedi code. You need attachments to be compassionate.
@DavidGarcia-kw4sf
@DavidGarcia-kw4sf 12 сағат бұрын
Relationships with friends and family help to define who we are. They test our understanding, loyalty, and patience. They help us to grow.
@aster4jaden
@aster4jaden 18 сағат бұрын
I blame Dooku (who I admire for it), each Padawan and Master that followed his "Line" took after him.
@aodhhanswtor7252
@aodhhanswtor7252 13 сағат бұрын
Kenobi was one of many council members who knew; Yoda also did. Yoda kept a close eye on Anakin after the slaughter of the Sand People. There was a reason Yoda told Obi-Wan to find Anakin by using his feelings. Remember to consider the will of the Force to shape emotions to make ends meet. A masked Sith was foreseen by many individuals long before it happened. Anakin saw it, although his memory was erased. Yoda saw it on Moraban/Korriban. Although he didn't realize it was Anakin. My point is that the Light Side was able to reveal the future and what it was working to achieve. Anakin was the Chosen One. The entire council gave him some leeway (yeah, this is unprecedented), but to say Obi-Wan or the Council's action as a whole is why he fell to the Dark Side may be pushing things a bit too far. If marriage and attachment were so appalling to the Jedi Council, and attachments were so bad in this matter, would they have allowed Ki-Adi-Mundi to be on the Jedi Council? He had five wives! I know why he was allowed to marry, but he was on the Jedi Council. Think of all his kids and his attachment to them. Not to mention responsibility.
@stepabuv842
@stepabuv842 17 сағат бұрын
I don't believe Obi-Wan completely trusted the Council's interpretation of the code considering the many times he violated it while remaining firm in the light. Anakin's turn was inevitable once Qui-Gon died.
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
Did he (exept Anakin, using forbidden techniques and satine)
@mikeglass2460
@mikeglass2460 14 сағат бұрын
Kenobi should have let Anakin know that he knew. Anakin would probably have confided in him about his visions.
@jaredsardella2170
@jaredsardella2170 15 сағат бұрын
Obi-Wan's greatest mistake was not teaching Anakin how to have healty attachments. After all as we've learned from the likes of Bastila Shan, Revan, Nomi Sunrider, and (Legends) Luke Skywalker; love is the truest, purest expression of the Light Side. The complete rejection of attachment and love is completely antithetical to the Light Side, and one of the greatest misteps of the Jedi Order.
@DX16
@DX16 10 сағат бұрын
Jedi of this era didn't know what healthy attachment was
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
​@@DX16I am pretty sure Obi wan kind of did
@DX16
@DX16 3 сағат бұрын
@ruchiawasthi4174 Then he probably learned on his own, and still didn't managed it fully
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 17 сағат бұрын
Anakin did bring balance in the force in the end. The Jedi forgot the true way. Something that qui gon knew
@thatoneguywithnointernet
@thatoneguywithnointernet 18 сағат бұрын
Obi wan has also taken part in being in love with the ruler of mandalore. Forgotten her name but he also broke the code for loving her. But as Luke stated. He believes attachments actually make someone stronger.
@anteletica1148
@anteletica1148 18 сағат бұрын
Being in love isnt breaking the Code. It happens. You only break the Code by giving in to the attachment and starting a realtionship or prioritizing this one persons life above others. Obi Wan had the choice. Leave the order or be together with Satine. He chose the jedi. He would have left if she asked it of him, but that wouldnt be breaking the Code since he would have left the order
@nafizulsanko
@nafizulsanko 14 сағат бұрын
To add Luke attachment to his father is what saved the galaxy. His trust in his feelings give him a stronger connection to the force.
@thatoneguywithnointernet
@thatoneguywithnointernet 8 сағат бұрын
@@anteletica1148 I'm certain that obi wan would've left her if she asked. But I'm just simply mentioning about his romantic relationship.
@thatoneguywithnointernet
@thatoneguywithnointernet 8 сағат бұрын
@@nafizulsanko yes it did. And it was honestly the most heartbreaking part of the movie.
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
​@@anteletica1148agreed
@GGBlaster
@GGBlaster 8 сағат бұрын
A recurring theme in Star Wars, especially in the PT and TCW, is loyalty. Loyalty to friends and family, loyalty to code, loyalty to nation. Betrayal systematically destroys nation, code, family and friends.
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
Yes the clonewars were the best
@andrewfung9340
@andrewfung9340 15 сағат бұрын
Obi Wan also said he never said anything because it made Anakin happy too
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
Bro was a real one respect
@williehughes1690
@williehughes1690 14 сағат бұрын
And yet Anakin never trusted him enough to directly tell him about his relationship with Padme.
@dime1012
@dime1012 14 сағат бұрын
It was Anakins emotion & attachment that lead him to the dark side after all. He allowed it to consume him, though we’re all aware it was the negligence in recognizing and addressing these internal struggles by the order that’s just as responsible if not more than the autonomous decisions made by Anakin/Vader
@orvilleortiz8616
@orvilleortiz8616 16 сағат бұрын
Obie Wan is the real definition of “Ride or Die” code!!!! No snitching!!! Hello There!!!!
@TrueGraveHeart
@TrueGraveHeart 17 сағат бұрын
I always assumed Obi Wan was aware of Anakin and Padme's relationship, but I also felt that Obi Wan kept silent because of his own familiarity with Queen Satine. I will always say that Palpatine was the one sending the visons of his mother dying and then Padme to break down Anakin's mind to make him more suseptible to manipulation. Wouldn't be surprised if Palpatine was behind the abduction of Shmi.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH. 16 сағат бұрын
ACTUALLY iN A KUT DiALOGUE LiNE FROM DOOKU AFTER HE GOT HiZ HANDZ CHOPPED OFF iN REVENGE OF THE SiTH, HE WOULD CONFEZZ THAT HE HAD PAiD THE TUSKEN RAiDERZ TO KiDNAP & TORTURE HiZ MOTHER UNDER THE COMMAND OF LORD SiDiOUS !! DON'T KNOW WHY THEY KUT THOZE iMPORTANT LiNEZ OUT THOUGH ! [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH. 16 сағат бұрын
ACTUALLY iN A KUT DiALOGUE LiNE FROM DOOKU AFTER HE GOT HiZ HANDZ CHOPPED OFF iN REVENGE OF THE SiTH, HE WOULD CONFEZZ THAT HE HAD PAiD THE TUSKEN RAiDERZ TO KiDNAP & TORTURE HiZ MOTHER UNDER THE COMMAND OF LORD SiDiOUS !! [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH. 16 сағат бұрын
DON'T KNOW WHY THEY KUT THOZE iMPORTANT LiNEZ OUT THOUGH ! [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH. 16 сағат бұрын
ACTUALLY iN A KUT DiALOGUE LiNE FROM DOOKU AFTER HE GOT HiZ HANDZ CHOPPED OFF iN REVENGE OF THE SiTH, [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH.
@TYKZY.BRANX._TEEK.SEE.BRANCH. 16 сағат бұрын
HE WOULD CONFEZZ THAT HE HAD PAiD THE TUSKEN RAiDERZ TO KiDNAP & TORTURE HiZ MOTHER UNDER THE COMMAND OF LORD SiDiOUS [NOT YELLiNG, JUZT LiKE TYPiNG iN CAPZ]
@corujariousa
@corujariousa 16 сағат бұрын
Let's remember both Obi-Wan and Qi Gong Jin also faced serious personal relationship challenges and were able to overcome those. I believe that first person experience with the same struggle, together with love and commitment to Anakin led to Obi-Wan's decision.
@Dragon-xg9je
@Dragon-xg9je 17 сағат бұрын
This is one of you guys's best videos on Anakin his fall and the powers of the dark side of the Force and the role of the chosen one in the destiny of the force. Well done, I was very impressed.
@tiniusaustin1466
@tiniusaustin1466 18 сағат бұрын
Obi-Wan’s biggest betrayal wasn’t fighting Anakin-it was not questioning the broken Jedi Code. True loyalty means challenging the system you serve.
@dahelmang
@dahelmang 17 сағат бұрын
The code worked for a thousand years and then they bent the rules for Anakin and he fell to the Dark side as you would expect.
@Dragon-xg9je
@Dragon-xg9je 17 сағат бұрын
No as one would expect, the Jedi will trust in the force and see that their code had becomes a stagnating force and preventing growth for the galaxy on a spiritual level does inhibiting the living force. That's what Qui-Gon was trying to do, but that's ultimately what dooku gave up on doing. That is why Anakin fell to the force of palpatine's influence. Anakin was supposed to be the chosen one to bring balance he was an agent of change, and the Jedi wasted the opportunity to use the gift the force gave them for the good of the galaxy and thus they doomed it to darkness. The chosen one was not at fault for anything that happened during the course of his life because he had no control of his life at any point in it. His destiny was always being influenced by those around him as opposed to allowing the force to guide it the way it was supposed to. That is the path to the dark side. The force naturally existed balance and allowing it to do what it does, exerting influence over the force is tapping into the dark side and bastardizing the force and attempting to take control of it. That is the nature of breaking the chains as the sith code says. But power does not free you, when you tap into the dark side, it takes over you. The Jedi code was outdated in the sith code is a lie.​@@dahelmang
@dahelmang
@dahelmang 17 сағат бұрын
@Dragon-xg9je that was why Kenobi shouldn't have listened to Qui-Gon. The force is both good and evil. They should not trust the force because it has its own agenda. That's the trouble with basing a mystical system on Buddhism. The Jedi were making the galaxy better for everyone and their code provided stability that allowed them to continue promoting peace for a thousand years. Once Qui-Gon and Kenobi started ignoring the code it all fell apart in short order.
@vhelixx
@vhelixx 17 сағат бұрын
​@@dahelmang The fall of the jedi was due to their own rules being rigid. What worked 1000 years ago would not work today. Imagine if our governments operated exactly as the governments 1000 years ago
@dahelmang
@dahelmang 17 сағат бұрын
@vhelixx that's not what happened in the movies. They didn't want to let Anakin in because he was too old, and therefore had too much of a connection with his mother. This was proven correct when his mother died and he gave in to the dark side because of it. They had a rule against marriage because it builds too much emotional connection. This rule was proven correct when Anakin's marriage led him to Sidious in order to save his wife. So the Jedi code was proven correct because Anakin turned to the dark side because he did not obey the code.
@ChrisSaintLive
@ChrisSaintLive 17 сағат бұрын
Bro that thumbnail is exactly what I'd do with the force in a battle
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
Lol fr
@TheAyanamiRei
@TheAyanamiRei 17 сағат бұрын
Obi-Wan would have been better served if Padme wasn't so over forgiving and stupid. She hears Anakin going on a Genocide Murder Spree, then quickly Forgives & Forgets. If Obi-Wan knew of the growing dark side within Anakin, things would have been different
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 18 сағат бұрын
Fantastic!
@keyseronthewire2575
@keyseronthewire2575 15 сағат бұрын
I've always loved that image of Obi-Wan (the thumbnail)... Makes me think about an alternate scene playing out in A New Hope during the sacrifice moment for Obi-Wan.
@johnmaurer8596
@johnmaurer8596 10 сағат бұрын
As a padawan of Qui-gon, Obi-wan learned the concept of snitches get stitches. Count Dooku admirers that quality.
@Gor85
@Gor85 9 сағат бұрын
This is great. Great lesson! I think Obi-Wan was right. He loved Anakin so much. Loved Padme to. I think Yoda knew too in a way. It's possible. May the Force be with you too and may its light guide you always
@dlsmith9277
@dlsmith9277 18 сағат бұрын
Any idea if you might talk about a possible theory about Huyang having sith lightsabers in his records anytime please?
@KepaniGrayson
@KepaniGrayson 11 сағат бұрын
Great video. Really enjoyed this one.
@sydneysmith1521
@sydneysmith1521 18 сағат бұрын
Did 'the shroud of the dark side' keep the Jedi council from picking up on Anakin's relationship with Padmae (sp?) ?
@anteletica1148
@anteletica1148 17 сағат бұрын
No it only clouded their future sight and made them unable to detect palpatine
@danicalifornia505
@danicalifornia505 14 сағат бұрын
1:41 how did Obi shield his mind and emotions about Anakin from the High Council?
@TheRealCapnJack
@TheRealCapnJack 10 сағат бұрын
PERFECT assessment as always, Stupendous! Anakin has always been my favorite as I frequently mention because he represents the classic tale of the fallen hero of the best intentions lead to hell. Keep up the great work!
@ironcityblue
@ironcityblue 12 сағат бұрын
Obi was the ultimate Jedi therefore he writes the code. Also Obi is Luke and Leia's true father. He got with Padme many, many times.
@artpkaful
@artpkaful 14 сағат бұрын
This was a good breakdown of Anakin becoming Vader through Obi-Wan's greatest mistake; loving Anakin
@kevin-2.1
@kevin-2.1 18 сағат бұрын
Obi-wan sees Anakin as a friend, a student but to me, he sees Anakin as a son.
@josephalonzo1059
@josephalonzo1059 10 сағат бұрын
I think Obi-wan sees Anakin as more of a little brother than a son... Think about it with the inclusion of Qui-gon... And then compare it to how in our real world those situations are... The older brother always takes care of his younger brother and sorta has to grow up way faster than he should've, becoming the "father-figure" to his brother
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
He sees him as a little brother _"you were like a brother to me"_
@kevin-2.1
@kevin-2.1 4 сағат бұрын
@@ruchiawasthi4174 You were my brother Anakin
@kevin-2.1
@kevin-2.1 4 сағат бұрын
@@josephalonzo1059 the reason why I said that is because in AOTC, Anakin tells Obi-wan that he was the closest thing to having a father.
@MyHive311
@MyHive311 17 сағат бұрын
To everything you said.... No. Everything that took place from E1 to E5 is what lead to the Chosen one killing Sidious. Dont go Disney on us and start making shit up
@anthonycobbett2899
@anthonycobbett2899 17 сағат бұрын
Obi wan cared about anakin so much that he was willing to keep anakins' relationship with padme a massive secret. Dang, obi Wan was awesome. Jedi can be really cool sometimes when they're not following the misinterpreted and often misused jedi code. LIKE IF YOU AGREE. 👍👍👍
@The_Lucent_Archangel
@The_Lucent_Archangel 36 минут бұрын
Obi Wan wasn't wrong to be loyal to him, but Qui Gon definitely would have differed in being able to directly address Anakin's thoughts and fears. He'd have seen Palpatine for what he was and what he was doing, and wouldn't have had split loyalty between Anakin and the Council. Just makes his death in Episode I that much more tragic.
@SilasSmith-u2z
@SilasSmith-u2z 16 сағат бұрын
Awesome vid Stupendous too not go tell the council about Anakin and Padma just goes too show how much love respect and trust Obi Wan had for Anakin which also shows there brother like bond which I also love which makes me have more and more respect for both characters every single day
@djnavarro3212
@djnavarro3212 15 сағат бұрын
Fatherhood comes first. Since Obi Wan was Anakin’s father figure after Qui Gon, he knew that he needed to give Anakin and Padme’ space about their marriage
@jeremybrummel3254
@jeremybrummel3254 13 сағат бұрын
Much as I criticize the Kenobi show, what Vader said is true. The responsibility for falling to the Dark Side is on Vader's shoulder's alone. Yoda tried to teach Anakin to let go, but Anakin was stubborn.
@TheKidwBlueGlasses
@TheKidwBlueGlasses 2 сағат бұрын
Nah, but like, the thumbnail goes SO HARD tho 🔥
@AmirSayedal-Isra
@AmirSayedal-Isra 2 сағат бұрын
Anakin wanted to keep Obi-Wan in the dark about his secret marriage to Padme, but he openly told Master Nejay Halcyon on Praesetlyn (from the novel “Jedi Trial”). I’m guessing because Master Halcyon wasn’t your typical Jedi Master. He wasn’t so stuck in Jedi dogma like Obi-Wan and other masters. But Obi-Wan let Anakin know in the past he also was involved in secret relationships. But his 1st love died and his second went back to Mandolore to take power and rebuild her society. He broke it off with her in order to protect her and stay dedicated to The Republic. Anakin should have seen that Obi-Wan could be trusted and would have secretly helped.
@watasht0ff360
@watasht0ff360 9 сағат бұрын
Stupendous, I know you might not see this but on the off chance that you do, please make a video of how well Obi-Wan would actually fit in Luke’s Jedi order. I believe he would actually fit quite well in it
@Bio_dub465
@Bio_dub465 18 сағат бұрын
Obi-Wan was a real one of the force and the bro code
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
Yes
@KennyMcNutt1321
@KennyMcNutt1321 17 сағат бұрын
What if Obi Wan's relationship with, and loss of, Satine Kryze also kept him from saying anything. Perhaps because he also knows he doesn't want to keep that feeling from Anakin.
@corpsedesecrator2612
@corpsedesecrator2612 15 сағат бұрын
He was being his wingman. 💪🏽😎 he took after Qui Gigachad Jin as a Sigma Jedi.
@Attentiondificil-h8u
@Attentiondificil-h8u 10 сағат бұрын
I mean anakin has had a hard life as it is, and I think it wasn’t only compassion that kept obi-wan from snitching it was also empathy as he didn’t want it to seem that anakins master and best friend had betrayed him after an already trying life.
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 14 сағат бұрын
I suspect EVEN YODA an few others secretly MAYBE even suspected or KNEW his status with her. BUT she reciprocated, they BOTH was good at their jobs- key positions in the war effort an their Orders, ASSUMED hed probably grow out of it, an it was PROBABLY more trouble then was worth to expose it. An the Jedi DEFINITELY ignored such things IF it served them. Like when Anakin FINALLY drove the saber in Dooku's coffin... An WHEN Windu later tried to do THAT same thing to Sideous... CLEARLY hoping an expecting him to throw the rules out the window under specific circumstances.
@glasses685
@glasses685 18 сағат бұрын
Anakin deserved to be kicked out of the Jedi to be honest (or he should've just left). Just because he's a good fighter doesn't mean he can just disregard the rules.
@DeathScepter
@DeathScepter 17 сағат бұрын
Anakin is immature for a 23 year old. True he is talented for being a Jedi Knight. He is too young and too immature to be a Jedi Master
@TaraCicora
@TaraCicora 16 сағат бұрын
He already planned to leave and tried to leave once as a child only to be talked back in.
@TaraCicora
@TaraCicora 16 сағат бұрын
@@DeathScepter I wouldn't expect a 22-year-old with PTSD to be ready to be a Master, in fact, no one did. In a deleted scene and in the novelization of ROTS Anakin actually says that he isn't ready to be a Master.
@ethansoderstrom8287
@ethansoderstrom8287 11 сағат бұрын
There is a deleted scene in episode 2 where Kenobi discussed this concern with Windu.
@shkotayd9749
@shkotayd9749 15 сағат бұрын
If Anakin was expelled by that point, he probably would have fallen anyways. The darkness was already well on its way in him, and Sidious would have picked him up that much sooner. All those years of seasoning already.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 сағат бұрын
Great video
@stevenmisner1310
@stevenmisner1310 8 сағат бұрын
Ah man just imagine how different the story could have been if Qui-gon had mentored Anakin. Could have been so nice lol
@doomsdaySephiroth
@doomsdaySephiroth 13 сағат бұрын
You forgot to mention that Obi-Wan understood Anakin's attachment as he had one of his own in Duchess Satine of Mandalore even though he was separated from her by his own choice when he chose the Jedi Order over her instead of finding the path that Luke would 20+ years later. An interpretation of the Jedi Code that Anakin could've adhered to and understood without falling to the dark side like he did.
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
_"had you said the word I would've left the order"_ ~Obi-Wan Kenobi Episode 13 season 2 voyage of temptation
@tallonmetroids271
@tallonmetroids271 13 сағат бұрын
So, we're gonna gloss over the fact that Obi-Wan also had common ground with Anakin, due to his feelings about Duchess Satine? Seriously, there's no way that didn't have some influence on Kenobi staying quiet about Anakin and Padmé.
@yugioht42
@yugioht42 18 сағат бұрын
Technically it wasn’t against the Jedi code to get married nor have kids. Many Jedi were married just some didn’t do so.
@anteletica1148
@anteletica1148 17 сағат бұрын
As long as you didnt love your Partner and prioritize their life over others. Wich is almost impossible
@jacobrobinson4444
@jacobrobinson4444 14 сағат бұрын
This man has a lot of jedi code betray's under his belt his student has even more.
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
Does he, I mean he embodied the code
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 18 сағат бұрын
Nice!
@watasht0ff360
@watasht0ff360 9 сағат бұрын
Anakin was so full of it. He is the one who betrayed Obi-Wan and we don’t talk about it enough. No one loved him more, no one cared about him more, no one stood by him more, no one supported him more, no one looked up to him more, no one admired him more than Obi-Wan He got too full of himself and forgot to simply look at what Obi-Wan was and what he actually did for him. Only five other people saw Anakin in this way. He thought he lost everything but he ALWAYS had Obi-Wan. That’s why Obi-Wan’s pain is so thick on Mustafar and after. I hope Anakin apologised to him in the afterlife because he really really hurt him
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
Same for Obi wan
@watasht0ff360
@watasht0ff360 4 сағат бұрын
@ What about Obi-Wan?
@fireheist6603
@fireheist6603 17 сағат бұрын
aaaaaaaaannnnddd obi-wab undertud 100% those fellings. Lets not forget that he would have leave the order for love
@chrisprice5133
@chrisprice5133 17 сағат бұрын
Hey Stupendous Wave why is it in Force Unleashed 1 when you kill Kazdan Paratus and Shaak-ti they release a Force light?
@thetruemonarch9354
@thetruemonarch9354 12 сағат бұрын
He Bro Coded too close to the double suns.
@darthsidius9631
@darthsidius9631 17 сағат бұрын
I thought that it was dissecting my apprentices!
@mlo009
@mlo009 9 сағат бұрын
And Anakin still blamed Obi Wan, useless padawan.
@stevenhall4444
@stevenhall4444 18 сағат бұрын
Obi wan was never a saint he's breaking the jedi code since he met anakin .
@mathewcobb9443
@mathewcobb9443 16 сағат бұрын
Would’ve liked for you to touch more on the fact that obi wan had his own relationship with a senator of mandalore, so he probably felt some sympathy there
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
When did she become a senator she ruled a indipendent system
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
She had a disdain for the republic
@Hello-bi1pm
@Hello-bi1pm 11 сағат бұрын
How one goes out of a similar situation to Vader
@kennithunderwood1086
@kennithunderwood1086 2 сағат бұрын
This also proves that he shouldn’t have been the one that trained him
@Idkidkidk716
@Idkidkidk716 14 сағат бұрын
Well if anakin was found out and expelled I feel darth sidious would’ve gotten his hands on him earlier and his fall to the dark side would’ve been more effective imo.
@AncestorEmpire1
@AncestorEmpire1 Сағат бұрын
Anakin is the Lando of the prequels. It’s never “his” fault….
@alienheyzeus7235
@alienheyzeus7235 17 сағат бұрын
Yet Obi-Wan was able to hide his relationship with the dutchess.
@nardopolo7407
@nardopolo7407 15 сағат бұрын
Obi wan and Jar jar were secret sith master and apprentice. it was truly despicable what they did almost as bad as lukes failure ti kill Ben Solo and not live up to his dads lofty expectations I mean just one youngling how can you manage to mess that up his dad killed abunch of them its in the blood.
@dahelmang
@dahelmang 17 сағат бұрын
People keep blaming the Jedi code when the problem is that they kept bending the code for Anakin. If they had followed the code Vader would not have existed.
@bsharp6812
@bsharp6812 16 сағат бұрын
Hmmm 🤔 wouldn't having someone to Tran, travel with, live with see everyday be an attachment
@thomasparque7834
@thomasparque7834 14 сағат бұрын
Obi-wan as right to keep Anakin’s relationship a secret from the council but he should confronted and comforted Anakin then tell him about his past with Duchess Satine. Though the Jedi were wrong to fallow this kind of path for its members they still had some fair points that could not be dismissed
@thomasparque7834
@thomasparque7834 14 сағат бұрын
And to be fair we all kind wonder if the Jedi Order was more like Luke’s in Legends what Obi-wan’s and the duchess’ lives would be like
@Carrie449-xyz
@Carrie449-xyz 15 сағат бұрын
Did he ever find out Ani killed all the tribe of Tuscans when Shmi was tortured to death? Does anybody know?
@RobertJohnson-kg3pu
@RobertJohnson-kg3pu 2 сағат бұрын
I understand Anakin.
@DonLoco3
@DonLoco3 16 сағат бұрын
Any being with eyes could see he was utterly smitten with her from a young age. It was beyond obvious to EVERYONE. So in reality, it wasn't Obi-wan but EVERY single Jedi around who saw but stayed silent. Stop blaming Obi-wan for Anakin being an idiot.
@wilwyman451
@wilwyman451 11 сағат бұрын
I don't think it was all about his loyalty. In both legends and cannon, Obi Wan did the same thing with Taria Damsen another jedi, and Satene Creez in cannon. So I think it was more of an understanding then layalty.
@ruchiawasthi4174
@ruchiawasthi4174 4 сағат бұрын
*Satine Kryze
@wilwyman451
@wilwyman451 4 сағат бұрын
@@ruchiawasthi4174 So you are one of those.
@col.sambers9033
@col.sambers9033 15 сағат бұрын
disagree with your assessment and suggest that instead of knowing and staying silent he should have revealed to Anakin and Padme that he knew and if maybe not approved, but at least accepted their bond. I believe if Obi-wan had been more open with his defense of Anakin then Palpatine would have had a much harder if not impossible time trying to turn Anakin. Like you mentioned one of the biggest issues was believing that he was isolated and no one in the Order was on his side. Had Anakin known that Obi-wan would stand by him no matter what even in defiance of the rest of the council that could have made all the difference.
@westongarner-qo2ez
@westongarner-qo2ez 18 сағат бұрын
First comment!😁 First like!👍 Awesome video!🤘 Keep up the awesome work!🤘😎🤘
@anthonyp6896
@anthonyp6896 16 сағат бұрын
The Jedi council are the ones that fault they should have been willing to help Anakin for regular people attachments are important and the Jedi should be no different
@ChrisGrogu
@ChrisGrogu 18 сағат бұрын
Let’s gooooo!!!!!❤
@LadyAndreaRose1701
@LadyAndreaRose1701 18 сағат бұрын
Good soldiers watch early
@J_Tanedo17
@J_Tanedo17 18 сағат бұрын
10 seconds ago is crazy
@nafizulsanko
@nafizulsanko 14 сағат бұрын
Are we going to pretend now that the jedi code is a good thing? Lore wise it was the main reason for the Jedi's downfall
@samuelrobles3737
@samuelrobles3737 15 сағат бұрын
Day 689 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 18 сағат бұрын
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 18 сағат бұрын
S
@lordofpain3476
@lordofpain3476 16 сағат бұрын
#1. Windu betrayed the republic by trying to assassinate the Chancellor. #2. Windu did not have the authority to arrest , much less assassinate the Chancellor. #3. Anakin cut off Windu's hand to protect the Chancellor. ( if Anakin wanted to kill Windu , he would have attacked him instead of disarming him. ) #4. Obi-Wan always had his own agenda , and I don't think that protecting Anakin was part of it . #5. The jedi council talked about removing the Supreme Chancellor by force and seizing control of the Senate long before they knew that Palpatine was Sidious .
@Johndoe-on9ye
@Johndoe-on9ye 18 сағат бұрын
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