Obsèques de Jacques Chirac, en l'église Saint-Sulpice : Daniel Barenboim interpréte l'impromptu Op.142 (D.935) No.2 en la bémol majeur de Franz Schubert.
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@christinestill50024 жыл бұрын
SO glad to see Maestro Barenboim still performing. Huge fan for many years. Memory slip? He is in his mid-70's & he rarely uses a score. He plays thousands of pieces from memory.
@theoune25013 жыл бұрын
Wooow so impressive 😳
@friedrich10127 күн бұрын
Ojalá el público haya podido apreciar un musica y una interpretación que es el aliento de Dios.
@therealhishaam4 жыл бұрын
Je me demande si les personnes dans le public se rendent vraiment compte de l’honneur que c’est d’avoir Daniel Barenboim jouer à des obsèques.
@danieleclauzel16744 жыл бұрын
Pourquoi prendre systématiquement les gens pour des imbéciles, des ignorants ?
@mariaelisabethguidoni42713 ай бұрын
Superbe❤😢
@duncanmacpherson20134 жыл бұрын
A lovely performance by one of the world's finest musicians which really did the ocasion justice
@hkgweigwei3 жыл бұрын
I have just started learning this piece and found this. Never expected it was played in a funeral.
@shaukatbhatti25544 жыл бұрын
performance aside. let's appreciate him for lifelong love of music and at such old age still playing piano beautifully. everyone have there peak at a certain time. remember the difference between young and old age. I think he did his best and played well.
@lindale634 жыл бұрын
Tres emouvant; mon pere ecoutait la musique Classique souvent, et parmi les grands compositeurs Schubert. Souvenirs precieux.
@deolindapinhogarciabertolo70711 ай бұрын
É uma beleza vê-lo tocar!!Maravilhoso!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@friedrich10124 жыл бұрын
Nadie mejor que Baremboin para despertar una musica tan sublime y bella como la misma muerte. Bellinte!!!
@marshmallow83494 жыл бұрын
Cette musique de Schubert est juste sublime avec un pianiste vraiment au juste talent pour interpréter cette musique très émouvante . Bravo à Daniel Barenboim et bravo à Mr Macron d'avoir choisi ce morceaux .
@annedemol10062 жыл бұрын
magnifiue, le. grand. homme Chircac méttirait bien, cet hommage ,RIP. monieurs CHIRAC.
@guillaumelafarge38574 жыл бұрын
Grandiose Barenboim. Avoir ça pour ses obsèques, quel cadeau inestimable !
@antoniosilvestro90452 жыл бұрын
Daniel is a legend. I love his style. I have little love for politicians
@katysibnm57003 жыл бұрын
Some people are commenting on what appears to be some of the audience members' negative reaction to Barenboim's playing. But are they reacting to Barenboim at all? This is a memorial service for Jacques Chirac, in a church. The people are in mourning.
@methe29602 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are, this was exceptionally bad
@waelzayat28304 жыл бұрын
Watching the Maestro playing one of my favorite pieces meant a lot, but when I heard the wrong notes I had to get the score and check, I thought I had it all wrong in my memory, but unfortunately he did have some mistakes, I can't believe how he could manage to save the piece after these improvised chords :/ Even legends make mistakes, but some can handle the fall wisely
@goupilargente3 жыл бұрын
I do agree with you, even V. Horovitz made mistakes, and admitted making them.
@gaitpiano3 жыл бұрын
he saved it because he is one of the most important musicians of his generation!!!!! he is also short of 80 years old, but nothing stoped his wonderful music making !!!!!!!
@AlexanderA-it9is6 ай бұрын
Richter said that you should not pay attention to mistakes, although I have not heard him make mistakes
@AlexanderA-it9is6 ай бұрын
And Borenboim - you can always hear his character in his performance, unlike hundreds of musicians who never make mistakes
@antoniosilvestro9045Ай бұрын
Such exquisite mesmerising music
@arnebovarne77593 жыл бұрын
This symbolizes unity in Europe. An Austrian composer at the funeral of a French statesman. I think it's beautiful.
@bayarbuyan843 жыл бұрын
What about the pianist? He is Argentinian.
@muellkoerbchen3 жыл бұрын
Schubert was not Austrian! He was German.
@muellkoerbchen3 жыл бұрын
And Israeli.
@bayarbuyan843 жыл бұрын
@@muellkoerbchen Schubert was born in Austria.
@muellkoerbchen3 жыл бұрын
You were right, and I was confused 😅😅
@philippealonso72574 жыл бұрын
Magnifique j'en ai la chair de poule
@makikazukey4 жыл бұрын
grave
@marieclairegauvain69826 ай бұрын
Merci très emouvant
@TCFrankendaemy2 жыл бұрын
Overwhelming, this touchingly, outstangly played impromptu by one of the best pianists Daniel Bairenboim. Unforgettable.
@antoniosilvestro90452 жыл бұрын
Renato Carasone is the best pianist ever
@raynerwinklermozartxxx14452 жыл бұрын
@@antoniosilvestro9045 Nobody knows who the fuck that is My man
@gordonstevens6050 Жыл бұрын
that audience ! No music lovers there
@albertito7796 Жыл бұрын
An excellent observation !!! How looks a de-culturalized Europe .........!!!!
@albertito7796 Жыл бұрын
@virgile6250 As of matter of fact you are right, they do not smile at all.
@mengo401510 ай бұрын
I don't think you realize those are funerals, they aren't smiling because they are mourning someone
@mauricepitman4 жыл бұрын
Bravo Maestro Barenboim ...even when you makes a mistake they are interesting mistakes
@nkbeach4 жыл бұрын
It's not a mistake but lot of mistakes !! Open the ears and listen to the catastrophic central section - A massacre !!
@CWChung4 жыл бұрын
@@nkbeach Yeah, open the ears and listen. Now open your heart and feel
@nkbeach4 жыл бұрын
@@CWChung My ears are for Maurizio Pollini.
@michagaj65784 жыл бұрын
@@nkbeach To call this a massacre or a catastrophe is extremely unjust. There are dirty notes here and there, but consider the circumstances - how would you play at a funeral in front of hundreds of people? I am full of respect for Maestro Barenboim to be able to play like this at his age, let alone in a setting like this.
@andyvamdemon61254 жыл бұрын
Pollini makes more mistake in live, Than Barenboim
@josettemartin39934 жыл бұрын
Magnifique Mr baremboim qu elle interprétation émouvante merci monsieur
@user-nl2dv7eo6r2 жыл бұрын
Magnifique.
@andreemenager41416 ай бұрын
JE DECOUVRE !!! MERCI
@sylviafarese95462 жыл бұрын
No sabía que Baremboin tocó en el funeral de Chirac Brillante su participación
@bruce_c_in_nz Жыл бұрын
I've commented elsewhere on my belief that Barenboim is a worthy interpreter of Beethoven, but doesn't begin to understand Schubert. He admitted (I can't recall where I came across that report) that he had neglected that composer (check his discography). I suspect he was quite contemptuous of Schubert as a serious keyboard composer, and considered his music beneath the dignity of such a great pianist as himself.. When I heard the opening bars, my initial reaction wass that this was the best I had ever heard Barenboim playing Schubert. That impression did not survive the middle section (even ignoring the mistake). As for that dreadful mistake, I don't think age can be blamed (I heard Rubinstein when he was 84 play Schubert's longest sonata brilliantly ). This was not a two hour recital, but a 7 minute performance of a single work. He would have had ample time to learn and practise the work for what was an important state occasion and, if he had any doubts, he could have had a score in front of him. This is all consistent with the contempt which I suspect he holds. Schubert is about heart and emotions and sensitivity (and yin if you believe in that concept). There are a number of pianists who bring out these features. The best among them could be the late Radu Lupu.
@Jayantan846 Жыл бұрын
Pls don't criticize He is a matured player and have good age !!!!!! Pls respect!!!!!!
@bruce_c_in_nz Жыл бұрын
!!!!!!!!!
@evrikamargaryan99343 жыл бұрын
I play this music too
@beautybearswitness4 жыл бұрын
Ce Grand Schubert...
@JeanClaudeWelche4 жыл бұрын
Exactement la musique et l'interprétation appropriées...
@archium34553 жыл бұрын
L'interprétation est assez laborieuse et en plus il joue plusieurs fausses notes. Mais apparemment personne n'a l'air d'avoir remarqué.
@user-vl5go7gu8b3 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of the pieces played very graceful and golden sound a like, But the Trio part was……
@hkgweigwei3 жыл бұрын
The trio is technically demanding. Have been playing this piece for 5 months and not quite mastered the trio.
@AK47_4143 жыл бұрын
@@hkgweigwei Yeah me too. Im learning the trio right now and it's very difficult to memorize and play correctly every time.
@zurich56072 жыл бұрын
@@hkgweigwei but it’s Daniel Barenboim, that shouldn’t be a problem
@josettemartin39934 жыл бұрын
Mais enfin on n est pas dans un concert ,,pourquoi ces beauts se sont mis a applaudir, monsieur bareinbaum était là par amitié pour la famille d ailleurs il me paraît pas a l aisé et ces applaudissements n ont pas lieux d être
@MrTransalpin4 жыл бұрын
J' espère qu' un excellent organiste pourrait transcrire cette magnifique pièce, pour orgue, et le jouer sur le merveilleux CLIQUOT/CAVAILLE COLL de St Sulpice ça serait merveilleux, cet orgue a, environ 7000 Tuyaux, c' est l' un des plus beaux orgues de France, avec celui de Notre Dame de Paris, qui a autant de tuyaux, et qui est fabriqué par ce même organier CAVAILLE COLL.
@lucienvergez15654 жыл бұрын
BAISIN Christophe organier celle là il fallait la sortir le correcteur d’orthographe n’a pas fonctioniser,plutôt un facteur d’orgue, s’il vous plaît ne travestissez pas une merveilleuse profession.
@MrTransalpin4 жыл бұрын
@@lucienvergez1565 Ce n' est pas péjoratif, le terme " organier " est mentionné dans le petit LAROUSSE, qui est bel et bien synonyme de facteur d' orgues.
@lucienvergez15654 жыл бұрын
BAISIN Christophe organier trace les plans,jamais entendu au par avant , facteur employé depuis des lustres en musique,mais bon si vous voulez.
@estellegerthoffert48164 жыл бұрын
Seul l'orgue de Saint-Sulpice peut rivaliser avec le piano de M.Barenboim Bravo
@pierresaintgervais19374 жыл бұрын
Du très grand DB
@estellegerthoffert48164 жыл бұрын
Un côté "léger" à la situation ambiante un peu tendue.... Un grand monsieur qui tutoie les "grands" de ce monde
@antoinej82584 жыл бұрын
En petite forme Daniel !!! ;)
@paysage574 жыл бұрын
il devait faire froid dans l'eglise
@daniellerouaix13874 жыл бұрын
vous êtes un intime ? réflexion déplacée ù
@antoinej82584 жыл бұрын
@@daniellerouaix1387 Si vous faites les questions et les réponses alors ...
@borman59754 жыл бұрын
😢🇫🇷🌹
@gaby-christiannecrombez-dr53784 жыл бұрын
Laurie Merci
@joshua69953 жыл бұрын
0:17
@marinanapitupulu4812 жыл бұрын
I love this...I played it when I was 15
@Surplus_pubg232 жыл бұрын
Bruh I played it when I was 6…
@BryanLammm2 жыл бұрын
@@Surplus_pubg23 I played it when I was 4
@miryam368 Жыл бұрын
I played it when I was 2 months old
@ivankuligovskii50467 ай бұрын
I played this when I was 1 hour old
@Greg-kz8ts4 ай бұрын
I'm playing it now, and I've been dead for two years
@user-zi5qr2yv5u Жыл бұрын
6:00
@jacopofantozzi79674 жыл бұрын
awesome
@goupilargente3 жыл бұрын
D. Barenboim est un très grand pianiste, et cet impromptu de Schubert est d'exécution facile, aussi le moment de distraction du maître n'enlève-t-il rien à son talent. Pour ma part j'aurais choisi l'Andantino de la sonate D 959, mais J. Chirac n'aimait pas la musique, et l'aurait-il mérité?
@mieko955 Жыл бұрын
か
@claudioparrella1832 жыл бұрын
Brendel è un'altra cosa...
@robertpauljeanjobard93864 жыл бұрын
Le piano est-il bien accordé? Oups j'ai raté quelque chose, la suite est sublime
@nkbeach4 жыл бұрын
En tout cas la partie centrale de l'impromptu est catastrophique (à 2'30, c'est lamentable d'approximations et de fautes)
@joshua69953 жыл бұрын
0:21
@francescagillon20184 жыл бұрын
Comme c'est curieux d'avoir choisi cet impromptu pour Jacques Chirac. Pour les mélomanes et pianistes cela fait plus concert que messe d'enterrement.
@pilarpaco65694 жыл бұрын
Sentido muy bonito
@Roberto-eu1bj4 жыл бұрын
Grande Maestro, buena elección e interpretación, ¿por qué siempre lo mismo?
@kasajizo89632 жыл бұрын
What on earth happened at 2:52?
@johanngloi84612 жыл бұрын
A happy accident
@Michael_Arnold Жыл бұрын
A Brandon moment
@hdh1446 Жыл бұрын
The most remarkable thing is not that he got into this 'slip of memory', but that he got out of it handily, while the guys in the front row (bored stiff) will probably not have noticed it. Barenboim must have been under enormous pressure on this grave occasion, and with this audience. I couldn't do it. (But who am I?)
@Scriabinfan5934 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the occasion was?
4 жыл бұрын
Written in the description.
@romeovashishthviolin93843 жыл бұрын
If you don’t speak French it is the former president jaques Chiraques funeral
@rosemarieseiz-backe32304 жыл бұрын
WAlzer nr 2 von Shostakovich nach Richard Kula
@sarahlee23462 жыл бұрын
ok i play this piece im pretty sure a lot of it not that well played
@buskaschi4 жыл бұрын
Jeder, der das Impromptus As-Dur von Schubert kennt und spielt zuckt unwillkürlich zusammen - auch ein Pianist von Weltruhm sollte sich auf ein solches öffentliches Ereignis vorbereiten in üben.
@paulvandenham60024 жыл бұрын
Nicht nur technisch aber auch musikalisch eine Katastrophe.
@piotrkupka25754 жыл бұрын
Für eine Beerdigung kann man aber nicht sehr lange üben. Ich kenne das Stück und spiele es - und zucke nicht zusammen. Vielleicht, weil ich weiss, wie schwer es ist sich in einer solchen Umgebung und unter solchen Umständen zu konzentrieren...
@piotrkupka25754 жыл бұрын
@@paulvandenham6002 Dieser Komnentar beweisst nur, dass Sie wenig von Musik verstehen. Eine Gedächtnislücke ist weder ein technisches noch ein musikalisches Problem und unter diesen Umständen völlig nachvollziehbar. Musikalisch hat es mich beeindruckt, wie er manchmal innerhalb einer und derselben Phrase von Spannung zur Entspannung wechselt - klug und eindrucksvoll zugleich!
@paulvandenham60024 жыл бұрын
@@piotrkupka2575 Habe ich doch mein ganzes Leben mein Geld mit verdient, mit der Musik. Gratuliere das Sie es besser wissen.
@veradekleva21584 жыл бұрын
Adieu, Messier le President
@johnz46073 жыл бұрын
1:27 who is that person?He looks rude and uncultivated.😆😆😆😉
@hkgweigwei3 жыл бұрын
Frédéric Salat-Baroux. Chirac’s son-in-law. He sat next to his wife/Chirac’s daughter.
@MsFlipper293 жыл бұрын
look at 3:22 ;-)
@hkgweigwei3 жыл бұрын
@@MsFlipper29 precisely he didn’t like either Schubert or Barenboim. It is very beautifully played despite some mistakes. I am still learning this piece.
@helgahanke31853 жыл бұрын
you should google his name-then you know-love Helga
@militaryandemergencyservic32863 жыл бұрын
well, if he looks rude and uncultivated then he must be.
@dasytphantom93544 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell to a noob when he does the ‘mistake’ ?
@seongtaek844 жыл бұрын
like around2:54
@abbastarik88814 жыл бұрын
Si tu veux, tel qu'est écrit le morceau, il y a une période délimitée entre 1:30 et 2:42 qu'il aurait du jouer deux fois au lieu d'une... Il n'a pas respecté ce qu'en musique on appelle une barre de reprise. Ce peut-être un parti pris d'interprétation, pas très orthodoxe mais visiblement assumé.
@abbastarik88814 жыл бұрын
If you want, as the song is written, there is a period between 1:30 and 2:42 that he should have played twice instead of one ... He did not respect what 'in music we call a repeat bar. It may be a price interpretation party, not very orthodox but visibly assumed.
@AVPROJECT14 жыл бұрын
Does Macron know who really this super talented man is? Hmmm..I doubt
@plantbasedsecrets4 жыл бұрын
A&V PROJECT of course, Macron est un mélomane
@starshy30364 жыл бұрын
Macron was the one who chose specifically this pianist. keep your "hmm" to yourself :)
@duncanmacpherson20134 жыл бұрын
@@starshy3036 Who decided on this particular peice of music I wonder
@danieleclauzel16744 жыл бұрын
@@duncanmacpherson2013 Claude Chirac, la fille du Président Jacques Chirac.
@robertprince12554 жыл бұрын
@@starshy3036 President Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron is an accomplished pianist - he studied Classical Piano for over 7 years.
@beecolor Жыл бұрын
Joli son, mais il devait pas être à l'aise du tout, Barenboim joue beaucoup mieux. Trou de mémoire, etc. pourtant cet impromptu est le plus facile de tous.
@spacetatoo451 Жыл бұрын
Je t'invite à jouer devant une centaine chefs d'états ou d'anciens chefs d'états, pour l'enterrement d'un des plus grand homme politique de l'histoire moderne
@beecolor Жыл бұрын
@@spacetatoo451 Oui et alors, ça ne retire rien à ma remarque...
@marcelbardon3714 Жыл бұрын
@@beecolor Mais c'est votre remarque qui est stupide. Qui vous permet de penser de la facilité quand il s'agit de Schubert. Vous semblez ne rien comprendre à ce qu'est l'interprétation de la musique. Surtout ce compositeur-là.
@beecolor Жыл бұрын
@@marcelbardon3714 Cet impromptu est le plus facile de tous, je n'ai pas dit qu'il était facile à jouer dans une telle circonstance (je les ai tous jouer). Ca n'a rien à voir avec l'interprétation, c'est vous qui ne semblez rien comprendre. Je disais juste que Barenboim n'était pas au mieux, je n'ai jamais jugé de la facilité de la chose, il ne faut pas extrapoler bêtement en se plaçant au-dessus des autres. C'était une remarque c'est tout, pour montrer que l'exercice devait vraiment être difficile si Barenboim lui-même avait des difficultés dans une oeuvre aussi facile.
@marcelbardon3714 Жыл бұрын
@@beecolor Premièrement, je ne vois pas où sont les erreurs de Daniel Barenboïm dans cette oeuvre ni les approximations. Deuxièmement, je ne vois pas où est la facilité dans l'interprétation des oeuvres de Schubert, même pour celles qui n'ont pas de difficultés techniques évidentes. Et il n'y a pas d'extrapolation bête de placement au dessus de n'importe qui. Votre remarque, que vous présentez maintenant d'une autre manière, ne justifie pas les termes que vous avez employé,.Quant à parler de "joli son" pour Daniel Barenboïm, c'est comme dans cette émission qu'il y avait sur France Musique, il y a quelques temps, où les critiques musicaux avaient ce genre d'appréciations à la limite du ridicule. Enfin, je suis de plus en plus convaincu que l'écoute du son dépend aussi de la manière dont on accueille ceux-là qui les produisent.
@Patrick-xm9hp3 жыл бұрын
oh la perruque de la cougar ...
@duckisfaction2 жыл бұрын
Chirac is dead and schubert dead again from Barenboim’s fingers. Didn’t practice
@albertdiedericks62272 жыл бұрын
It was a funeral, not a concert. It was supposed to be emotional, this the best interpretation I have heard. It's not about the notes, it's about the feeling. And the feeling is there. Listen carefully again, Barenboim was playing his heart out for Chirac, it was a tribute and it was beautiful
@giannissakellarios91612 жыл бұрын
@@albertdiedericks6227 objecticely it was a horrible interpretation😂
@giannissakellarios91612 жыл бұрын
@@albertdiedericks6227 i mean listen to 2:52. thats just wrong and this particular part inst exceptionally difficult
@tobiasdenhollander3210 Жыл бұрын
@@albertdiedericks6227 Nah, it was horrible.
@spicy7302 Жыл бұрын
@@giannissakellarios9161 If that is the only mistake you can point out, that means you're probably too musically illiterate to talk about the quality of this interpretation lol
@sirdankarbin67268 ай бұрын
catastrophe
@og1893 жыл бұрын
Mr Barenboim est un peu fatigué, et le son est très mauvais, a qui voulait il faire plaisir , je me demande ? Dommage car c est un grand pianiste.
@kasajizo89632 жыл бұрын
Mr Barenboim is a bit tired, and the song is very bad, who does he want to please, may I ask? Disaster because it's a great pianist.
@nkbeach3 жыл бұрын
Quelle idée saugrenue de faire jouer au piano du Schubert aux obsèques de Chirac qui n'a, me semble-t-il, jamais été très mélomane, et qui ne portait qu'assez peu d'intérêt à la musique classique. Barenboïm serait-il un proche de Macron ?
@marie-madelaineclobus81243 жыл бұрын
Peut-être que, justement, Jacques Chirac aimait CE morceau ?
@trihangles59884 жыл бұрын
Barenboim toujours le meilleur, mais moin ici
@bach58617 ай бұрын
Brendel plays much better.
@jjgghhjk3 ай бұрын
Well, he's a specialist.
@user-wu9nk5qe3h3 ай бұрын
Brendel играет гораздо грубее и менее логично, чем Баренбойм. Просто неудачное исполнение, текст потерял в середине , а в целом Баренбойм изумительный, тонкий профессионал!
@bach58613 ай бұрын
@@user-wu9nk5qe3h Где тонко, там и рвётся.
@tarakb76063 жыл бұрын
Excruciatingly bad playing.
@kostasvassardanis45893 жыл бұрын
Cool...He is Daniel Barenboim...A master for many decades...He can have his weak moments....He almost "deserves" it...
@Michael_Arnold Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Joe Biden could play the piano
@crypentertv9862 Жыл бұрын
What an insult !! Daniel Barenboim is one of the greatest pianist/conductor in this world !
@Michael_Arnold Жыл бұрын
@@crypentertv9862 I disagree. He's a big empty musical phony. Always has been. He never touches the profound, but only mimics those who do; and the permanent sneer is to intimidate observers from looking further. He's in this for money, and nothing else. And what's insulting about comparing him to Biden?! Eighty million votes! (Or however many it was, on the night...) The greatest president ever, or since Donald Trump at least.
@xelaphilia Жыл бұрын
You don't know Barenboim? That's a giant hole in your culture.
@marcelbardon3714 Жыл бұрын
@@Michael_Arnold And you, you are stupid
@Michael_Arnold Жыл бұрын
@@xelaphilia Oh I know him since I heard his Beethoven Sonatas recording in 1978. A disappointment then and since.
@migi26174 жыл бұрын
Mmmm no
@eamonnmorris53313 жыл бұрын
Don't know why someone chose this piece for the occasion. You can tell the 'dignatories' are bored from the get-go! If your audience is bored from the opening bars ( a real risk, frankly, with so called 'classical music' ... let's be honest) you know you're in trouble. I learned this piece when I was 11 years old, and it was boring then. I'm a big fan of Schubert, but why not something like the Opus 90 G flat Impromptu ... something with more universality, more pathos ... equally good for weddings or funerals?
@TCFrankendaemy2 жыл бұрын
You really have not understand anything of the magical sound of this outstandingly performed impromptu. That you mentioned that you played this impromptu at the age of 11 eleven, does not say anything, everybody can remark this.
@albertdiedericks62272 жыл бұрын
Its not about the notes it's about the interpretation, this is a beautiful piece and perfect for the occasion. You might've learned it at 11, but music like this isn't about the notes it's about the feeling
@bubffm4 жыл бұрын
A prime example that even a Daniel Barenboim should be better prepared and not deliver such a miserable performane. That does not show a lot of respect for Chirac.
@filipporomano964 жыл бұрын
He is very moved, can't you see it?
@andrebourgeoiset23454 жыл бұрын
Emotion above performance. Meeting, Chirac, Schubert and Baremboim
@ericleung43133 жыл бұрын
IMO, as a first ranked musician, his recent performance disappointed many people.
@AumBaba4203 жыл бұрын
Err c'est laid, en même temps un jeu à la hauteur de la personne, JC était grand par la taille voilà tout et se retrouver entourer de toute cette racaille à ses funérailles quelle fin de merde, dommage que l'édifice ne se soit pas effondré.
@goupilargente3 жыл бұрын
Pas d'accord, la musique de Schubert est toujours belle, quant à l'église St Sulpice, ce n'est peut-être pas la plus belle de Paris mais il est heureux qu'elle ne se soit pas effondrée ou qu'un ennemi de la France ne l'ait pas incendiée.
@merdrubu3 жыл бұрын
fumistes! qu'est-ce qu'ils s'emmerdent avec Schubert! en fin de compte et à tout crins, les larmes d'Helmut et Boris marchant droit à l'enterrement de Mitterrand avaient plus de gueule! misère!