Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder vs Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

[@sorrelbee113]

One criticism: personality disorders *absolutely* cause problems for the person who has them, too. They cause deep, deep dysfunction and suffering, basically with no end, until we are able to receive or initiate some in-depth intervention over a long period of time. Personality disorders are terrible to have.

[@mirandaal4541]

I was baffled with that statement in the video too..

[@tozmom615]

She’s pointing out (and this is also my clinical experience) that in obsessive compulsive personality disorder the person’s behaviour is “ego syntonic”- ie their symptoms are felt to be congruent with their inner way of being. She could have been a bit more specific in saying obsessive compulsive personality disorder as in eg anxious-avoidant and borderline personality disorders the patient very definitely experiences their difficulties as being problematic. One of my ex partners was ocd pd… he was a nightmare to live with. He was soooooooo perfectionistic about everything that he made my life a living hell- although he was perfectly happy in himself, but did feel distressed by my “slobbish” ways (e.g. not having cushions on the couch all in line and symmetrical).

[@briannawaldorf8485]

I agree with you but I think it is because a lot of people with personality disorders are unaware of their disorder they’re usually aware they have depression or anxiety but not that it’s caused by a personality disorder. Some don’t even recognise they are doing anything wrong. But it depends on the person and also disorder. Which ones are ego syntonic or not. Like BPD is known for people going in for their disorder because it a harming themselves as well as others but NPD is known for people to never go in for or often refuse to believe that they have it. Dependent personality disorder might be another one people who go in for the symptoms but avoidant personality disorder might not etc. I agree thag j don’t like the blanket statement tho also some anxiety disorders do effect other people not just themselves. I was in a relationship with a man with diagnosed GAD, SAD, and OCD and his disorder definitely effected me because he would get anxious and I would have to calm him down from a panic attack, he would have obsessions about doing drugs and have to compulsively do them or he would have a panic attack or sometimes try to kill himself. Like and he had anxiety disorders NOT personality disorders. All of those behaviours definitely effected me and his family.

[@Taunt61]

just try to understand what she means instead of getting hurt. person with PD can go his/her whole life without understanding they have a problem. That's what she means. Not that in the grand scheme of things these aren't problematic. It becomes very problematic once the person notices they have it. Missed opportunities, destroyed relationships, is there a way these won't cause a problem if the person recognizes the disorder? Of course they are a problem. But we don't go through life having anxiety about our being generally, we are just the way we are, at first. We can explain why we act the way we do.

[@sorrelbee113]

@@Taunt61 I wasn't hurt and I did understand what she meant. But there's quite the stereotype, especially concerning cluster b personality disorders, that we are destructive to people around us without ever suffering from it ourselves. It's part of how we get stereotyped as malicious and evil. It's important that it's recognized that the nature of the disorder is harmful to us as well.

[@cht2162]

My family is riddled with OCD, OCPD, Dementia Praecox, suicide and homicide. And that's just one family in my lineage. My father was psychotic and I've limped through life carrying all this (80 years). It's been a terrible struggle. Thanks for your very helpful presentation, Dr. Marks.

[@hosoiarchives4858]

Oof that’s rough

[@freeindeed8416]

Praying for you

[@patrss]

I think I have OCPD, I have all the criteria. I never thought it was a bad thing. I always felt proud of the way I do things, even if it takes 10 times longer than everyone else. At least I "do it right". Never would I have thought that this was a personality disorder. I always wished more people were like me, how easier and less frustrating everything would be! But recently my fellow college students started complaining about my inflexibility and inability to work in teams. But I always thought they were the ones in the wrong and I was just unlucky to always end up with incredibly incompetent teammates, and if only I could find good teammates that know how to work properly, then I'd be happy to work with them. Then at the start of this semester I bought the DSM-5 for my mental health class and I randomly came across OCPD... Somehow I felt kinda relieved, like I finally felt understood. So now I'm doing some research to see what I can do to improve, and if I can change a few things and make my relationships better in the process.

[@michelleeriksen6816]

My husband has OCPD as well. Specifically religious OCPD. We are both devout Christians to give more context. Basically my husband is the nicest person I've ever met. So much so, he just doesn't speak up sometimes cuz he believes may e the other person deserves whatever it is more. But to cut to the chase, most Christians are able to watch or listen to something semi inappropriate & understand it's not good for them but they don't wanna be legalistic & wanna have fun so they let it go. Well.. my sweet husband gets so bothered by inappropriate movies, amongst his other fixations, that he will just lay saddened until I change it. He tells me he knows it's completely irrational & extreme for it to bother him so much, but it just does. So basically...I don't wanna trigger his OCPD but also him & I are coming to terms with he has to control his feelings about it as best he can cuz I need to be able to live my life too.

[@michelleeriksen6816]

To add on one last thing, we are doing our best to be a team on this. He sincerely doesn't want to control anything I do, and I don't wanna shove whatever he dislikes in his face. It's just a tough journey but he does very well now with the movies & can even enjoy some of them with me now!

[@anothername2730]

@@michelleeriksen6816 First off, I’m also a Christian. The more I read over your posts, the more I’m convinced that you both need to immediately seek professional guidance. Regardless of the appropriate diagnosis - which I am hardly qualified to give - you two seem to have a codependency with each other. It’s great that you are both willing to accept your shortcomings and want to fix the problem. I would strongly advise you to seek professional help. I worry about your future.

[@michelleeriksen6816]

@@anothername2730 Firstly, I need to work on my resisting the urge to comment on every youtube thing I watch. Secondly, we have sought couples counseling, wise older couples & it helped immensely. I'm just saying your comment really just comes across as only judgemental & not empathetic, especially towards my husband. He has improved immensely, whether it's OCD or not. People in his position need help to be better but also no judgement. Truthfully, I just need to stop telling anyone about my husband unless they are a wiser older person, close friend or therapist. Because the general population jumps immediately crazy conclusions.

[@michelleeriksen6816]

@@anothername2730 we have professional help, commitment to each other & Christ to lean on for all our needs. We are gonna be ok. So I'm sorry I've put too much out there on the internet because that's not what I want to display.

[@taiwanjohn]

I found out I have OCPD about 17 years ago. (After many years of frustration with my failures to live up to my own high standards, I finally sought the help of a psychologist.) Although there's no "cure" for it, just knowing what it is has made it easier to cope with. Somebody in an online OCPD discussion group summed it up pretty well: "The only thing wrong with me is this persistent feeling that there's something wrong with me." It sounds simple, and I suppose it is... but boy oh boy, does it ever have a way of screwing up your life!

[@jeffp7776]

"The only thing wrong with me is this persistent feeling that there's something wrong with me." WOW this hits home like a lightning bolt. Thank you for sharing it

[@kimberlyrosssegovia203]

My husband of 23 years insisted that I watch this video. Ouch... This totally decribed me, infact it reveled sides of me I wasn't aware of, such as hoarding and inflexibility. I refused to acknowledge possessing such behaviors, as if I could be a hoarder. And inflexibility. I have an adaptable mindset, I'm always winning. My productivity and resilence are results of being so flexable, right? I wasn't so sure. After some introspection and self exploration, I realized that I wasn't as self aware as I previously thought. I find these new discoveries to be enlighting and extremely interesting.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Im glad your husband had you watch. 😊

[@ydlacs7911]

KIMBERLY SEGOVIA I find this to be a fascinating example of the difference between OCD and OCPD. I (14 F) accepted that I had OCD very shortly I was presented with the knowledge that that was the term for my experience, and only denied the need for treatment because I knew that I would involve facing my fears, which is always scary. I still fear that the recovery process will take a long time in which I will experience high levels of anxiety until the anxiety fades.

[@Jangstaad]

This is like a mirror I’m looking at myself

[@dani3670]

I think it'd be great if you did a video on OCD and religious intrusive thoughts. It could really help people when they're searching for why they struggle with blasphemous thoughts when going to church. It was horrible dealing with that and not knowing I had OCD and that was causing it. But a video on intrusive thoughts in general would be great. Your videos are awesome.

[@mrskmac716]

That happened to me, still does a little bit. I prayed about it and asked for the Holy Spirit to help me with it. I understand what your going through and it’s horrible.

[@nocturne-memories3629]

That happened to me when I was 16. It was the worst time in my life and it made me very depressed. Thankfully, now at 27 I struggle less with that, but that’s bc I’m not religious anymore.

[@alouise3557]

My father dragged us all into a cult (Jehovah's Witnesses) and my entire childhood was spent listening to him get drunk and preach to me about how I'll be destroyed in Armagedon if I sin and don't immediately ask for forgiveness. He beat scriptures into my head and when he got angry at my sisters and I giggling when we were supposed to be sleeping, he beat us with the belt across our butts. He hung the belt on the door to terrorize us and remind us what was coming if we made any noise. He was an elder in the church and that was his chance to be "center of attention". He would repeat the same scriptures and "lessons" things over and over, over the years, almost as a way to show himself to be on top and perfectly adhering to the Bible, reminding everyone else that they're all sinners. When I was young I thought he was just that smart. Now that I'm older, I realize his ego was massive, but he didn't really have the right to have that kind of ego because he was "schooled" by a cult and easily fooled by them. They made him think he was amongst the elite class of believers and he loved it. It was up to me to follow his footsteps years after we left the cult and agree with the same theology he believed, which I did dutifully, afraid to believe anything else. It wasn't until I realized that this religious belief that he made to sound "collegiate level," was actually very easy to understand, but I bet he wanted to appear to be "special" because he read the books of well spoken theologians. I realized he likes to feel smarter even everyone else so the early penmen fulfilled that. He'd leave his books lying around so people could see them and brag about the writers being "the giants of the gospel". At this juncture, I don't believe he was doing it for the Lord. Because he was on a mission to convert people. He admitted to telling people what they wanted to hear in order to get them to feel important, so he could lure them and start preaching to them. That's what the cult taught him to do. I ended up making my own website and wrote extensive articles of the same theology which I'd studied for years, so he'd be proud of me. He refused to go to my website when he realized I advanced forward further than he did in my own studies. Here I was trying to make him proud of me and he resented me and would not read my articles. I realized at some point that I was getting arrogant and had an inflated who, believing other people would see me as smarter because I was involved in theological studies. It's like one day I woke up and realized I was becoming him and I had felt brainwashed into it to get his acceptance. I just realized in the last 48 hours that he doesn't just have a minor issue with OCD and that's not why his desk and bed and room is perfectly staged. He has OCPD and it, along with my mother's toxic Narcissism, has made an absolute disaster of me as an adult nearing 50. Now at the end of a relationship with my beloved Covert Narcissist too, my mind is overwhelmed with self hatred, guilt, shame, never be good enough, severe nervousness and anger. Trauma bonding to my Narc like nothing I ever felt before. It's all coming together of how bad I've been abused by the only people I trusted. I have no idea how I'll get past any of this.

[@Tmcsinger91]

I can relate to this I’m a perfectionist which is a big part of my anorexia that I battled in the past . I found this video helpful

[@Imtrying_girl]

Most OCD and ED reasons are needing to be in control. I think it stems from PTSD.

[@Tmcsinger91]

Sara Weaver yes absolutely I have PTSD too . Yes it’s all connected

[@sunset33533]

Thanks. The book "30 Days to Reduce Anxiety" by Harper Daniels was also helpful.

[@meganferguson1136]

I’m the exact same

[@PLBen]

Wow. Mind blown. I had never heard the difference before. I have been told all of these things all of my life and I had no idea it was actually a thing. This is just me. And with two years in lockdown (300 days in solo isolation in total) I am now *really* struggling getting out into the world. Thank you so much for describing this so clearly. Also recently diagnosed with ADHD and the meds are making this obsession with order and scheduling is ramping up.

[@heinricusblasius7917]

Damn, right on target. I had proper OCD when I was in my late teens/early twenties. Later I discovered I had some features of the OCPD and I was able to let go a bit. But still, if I get in a serious argument, and I'm 100% sure I'm right, I can be totally unyielding and completely unable to let go, not even for the sake of peace.

[@drina6685]

I've just found this page and Jeez i wish i found it way earlier. i thought i just had anxiety, and maybe adhd but i never thought of ths. i have OCD there is no question. Unfortunately no one is going to listen to a thing i say, but at least i know. 2 days ago your video on skin picking and hair pulling popped up on my recommended and it led me to several others. i have both of those compulsions, sadly. i pull out my eye lashes and just about any other hair i can find. i constantly chew the skin around my fingernails and on my hands. i also pick at the skin on my toes and feet. i have a memory of being a little girl of maybe 5 sitting behind a bed pulling a decent chunk of my long hair out thinking it was weird because it didn't hurt. Unfortunately, i am also an addict. I was in a wreck in 2001 and broke my arm and had to have a metal plate put in. So i was only 19 didn't really know anything about pain meds and dang sure didn't know they were addictive. i've been battling this demon every since. i now take suboxone twice a day. It's probably going to take everything in me just to post this comment.

[@comealongcomealong4480]

@Drina66 Well, you made it with posting your comment 👏 and got a laugh out of me! It's funny what comes back to us adults from our childhoods. I also watched Dr Marks' video on Obsessive Pulling/Picking. I'd long forgotten that I would chew the insides of my cheeks until they were puffed up and bleeding, as both a child and adult. I had NO idea that I was probably dialling down my anxiety and distress with that regular, and secret, behaviour. /I hope that you may have access to the kind of psychotherapist Dr Marks talks about. To help you see and understand what was happening for you back as a young girl. And later the turmoil in your life from being in a major accident. I can suggest that first: Understanding of your past Self, and second: Forgiveness of Self, can be valuable aids for taking positive steps in our adult lives. You do not have to stay as the nineteen year old @Drina66, who was prescribed pain meds without proper care, for the rest of your life! We humans do have a boundless capacity to heal and rebuild ourselves. May some of that belief settle in your own life.👏👏👏

[@ramonsimpson114]

Thank you for your content I'm a Physician Assistant student completing my Psychiatric clerkship and your videos have been god sent.Thanks again for the excellent content!

[@jessestaton2505]

I just want to say thank you so much for creating your youtube channel. It's really helping me. Blessings to you.

[@kerrybrothers9879]

My husband was recently diagnosed with OCPD and I've been searching out all types of information for my sake. This was by far the BEST resource. Some of the information was almost identical to other things (probably straight out of DSM) BUT you expanded on things to make them make sense in a real way.

[@beauregardmadden4934]

I saw this video and got excited as someone who has been diagnosed with OCPD, but after it was finished all I felt was sadness. I hate how we are always portrayed as 'anal, have to be right always', and... genuinely annoying, people. Everyone has their own variation of the condition, and I am a 'perculiar' case where I was aware of my disorder and went to both psychologist and psychiatrist to get my diagnosis. It's just that video's like this portray people with the disorder in a way that makes them look horrible to be around. I have so much anxiety and severe depression due to my OCPD, and I try to work on it everyday, through my interactions with others. I just wish people were more kind, and -wanted- to show people our side of the story, instead of writing us off as uinbearable perfectionists. Love to all. Just my opinion.

[@jennabolmgren]

If anything, after watching this video (myself included) is,I hope you see your OCPD as a superpower and not anything less. 💛

[@lauralii9856]

I have an OCPD mom and she has made my life a hell since I was born because of the condition. That's why I think it's good and necessary to highlight the problems as well. Especially if an OCPD has kids. There's quite much overlap with narcissistic tendencies and OCPD - lack of empathy, negativity, anger for example. And the desire to control.

[@user19200]

@@lauralii9856 who cares?

[@Monipenny1000]

@@user19200 people who are married to a spouse with OCPD and have had children with them cares. You should try it for several years, it's no joy ride for anyone.

[@lavitorroja2632]

​​@@user19200 I care, *sshole.

[@anothername2730]

I randomly stumbled across this video. I’ve been well aware of the differences for a while now, but wanted to listen to a comparison. And this video is top notch.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Thanks so much for the super thanks! I really appreciate it ❤️

[@jakecob864]

This channel was recommended to me by the algorithm after watching dr. Grande's videos, and I've got to say - what a great video! Dr. Marks has such a welcoming, empathetic and informed way of speaking. I've suspected for years that something can be wrong with me and now I am almost certain that it's OCPD, I am starting counseling this week and I hope that it'll help.

[@Tmcsinger91]

I’ve been stubborn in the past but have gotten help and have learned to be more flexible and compromising and have become more open minded /willing to take suggestions

[@alouise3557]

I like you. You don't act like a fraud or a legend in your own mind unlike SOME other "psych" gurus on youtube. Very professional work.

[@keishastaceymapalad8737]

Very helpful Dr. Marks! Had terrible experiences and it's now clear to me that what I have is OCPD.

[@marthamay4506]

I’m not going to lie, I’m slightly confused about the comment about personality disorders not effecting the person that has them but other people. I have avoidant personality disorder and it has ruined my life. It doesn’t effect anyone else at all apart from worrying about me.

[@1999Eternal]

That was confusing to me at first as well but then I assumed that the person with the disorder is harming themselves but feels fine with it because they aren't perceiving their actions the way others are at that moment. It's only after they witness the harm they may realize it was because of their behavior.

[@nur-e-diphamuttaqi]

Hi, firstly I would like to say, I love adore admire appreciate your videos and your insights very much. I loved your Bipolar Disorder PLAYLIST. First, you begin with basic understanding and symptoms, then second, you explore and explain the typologies and differences and thirdly (this is one I personally LOVE) the strategies of coping. Could you do more PLAYLIST like these for Depression, OCD, Anxiety, Personality Types and Disorders, Traumas, abuse victims, parenting, etc especially with strategies advises or references to your other survival strategy videos... or even PLAYLIST on strategies. Please please please... Thanks. All the Best.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Hi Nur-e-Dipha! Thanks so much for the praise. I'm glad you like the playlist. I'm working at building out the playlists. I have one on anxiety goo.gl/nv5JHJ and depression goo.gl/eFCdQo, but they are not as developed as the bipolar one. But I'm getting there. I'll create some of the other ones you mentioned. That will be in work in progress...

[@Teaaa12]

"What do you mean I have to throw away this year 6 book from 8 years ago? I still need it!"

[@andreagreen1467]

Omg this was so helpful. I think I have ocpd. I can't finish projects because they have to be perfect and I don't like others to do things because they wont do it as well. Lol. I crave organization. I'm cheap because I save for "just in case" and try to make my husband too. I do almost all the things on that list. I'm diagnosed ADD also so it's terrible for me because of how long projects take me because of the need for it to be perfect, but also being easily distracted adds even more time (or hyper focused) and I feel like I get nothing done ever. It's actually really frustrating because I can't seem to just leave well enough alone. I even redo things to make them "even better". It's time consuming and stresses my husband out. People jokingly say I'm ocd but I didn't think I was. After seeing this I think I'm probably ocpd.

[@rnovotny645]

Right I think I have ADHD and this personality disorder. I would to try medication for one of them, if not both of them. But I do think I really need therapy!

[@liverofADPIE]

Tracy: You are so clear and so grounded! Thanks so much for your vids; I have seen many. Please keep going. -Dan-

[@judyscheiber3661]

These videos are of great value and benefit all of us. If you are freely diagnosing anyone in your life by them, then step back a moment. You cannot diagnose anyone by a video you view on KZbin on the Internet. Dr. Marks knows this very well and I am a life coach that has encountered several people who caused great harm to those in their lives and family by judging and labeling those in their life after viewing a 20 minute video. Life coaches do not treat anyone and are not therapists. We guide forward movement. When I think my clients would be better served going into therapy, then that's what I tell them. You cannot move forward unless you settle where you've been. I'm just worried after reading comments here and all over, that there are now far too many mavin Psychiatrists around who are making a reckless diagnosis causing lasting harm. Information is always good provided it's in the proper context. Just remember, a clinical diagnosis is the only legitimate way you can determine any of this. Don't freely label anyone because of a video on KZbin. Instead use the video as learning about the subject and then applying to yourself - IF you think it is something that can benefit YOU.

[@fatbuddycat]

I have it real bad and have the HARDEST time accepting cognitive behavior therapy because it brings out the rage portion that causes me the most problems. I get stuck in the manic stage a lot so it's easier to be alone looking in rather than making attempts to find simple joy others find in life without my conscience causing me to self destruct. My reward system is defunct to the point that I have to earn everything because I feel like everyone else just consumes even the most basic needs. It is so much fun to find balance in life 😒.

[@nkley1]

Your videos are fantastic! You give very succinct , yet thorough, definitions without any over explaining. I find this style much easier to follow, which (for me) makes it easier to really absorb the information. I walk away with a much clearer understanding of so much. Instant subscriber.

[@kariagekun88]

I think you can explain the disorder clearer than the other experts . Thank you for the explanation , I know I have OCPD after watching this vlog .

[@goodrich06]

This is a very good thorough but concise comparison of OCPD and OCD. 👏

[@jmfs3497]

Thank you for talking about these disorders. I think my step mom had OCPD and perhaps Borderline, maybe CPTSD childhood or PTSD from her previous marriage. I have CPTSD and I would say 80% of it is from her. I feel so messed up and I'm middle aged. No meds completely help. Therapy is amazing, but it's like learning to bench press your own body weight with broken arms. My body feels tense anytime I notice an OCPD person insert themselves past my boundaries. I like MY version of "perfection". I want to feel good doing things MY way, the way my body and mind interface with the world. I am allowed to take up space in this world, and I want to connect with others to share in our experience, but I want to do most of my activities in my own way. Not anyone else's unless I specifically ask. Not even if you are my boss, parent, or spouse. If you don't like the way I think and act then please go No Contact with me rather than tell me what to do. You go ahead and quit YOUR job, instead of pushing me out of mine. You leave MY family, instead of pushing me out of mine.

[@SportbikeUnitedRiderz]

6:38 so true. Change comes from within.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

👍

[@dmtdreamz7706]

They looked forward to that moment with joy, but without haste, not pining for it, but seeming to have a foretaste of it in their hearts, of which they talked to one another. But when they looked at me with their sweet eyes full of love, when I felt that in their presence my heart, too, became as innocent and just as theirs, the feeling of the fullness of life took my breath away, and I worshipped them in silence. Their children were the children of all, for they all made up one family.

[@JesstheCreative1]

Ooh yes, what @Dexter White said. It’s a plus now knowing how to distinguish the difference. I know people with OCPD but I myself have actually suffered OCD. I see our similarities however I’m (now) less obsessive and the other is still more rigid, 😥 stressed, 😴 sleep deprived, poor anger management skills... THANK YOU (AGAIN) @Dr. Tracey

[@DrTraceyMarks]

You're always welcome ComedianAngel!! I'm glad you're improved with the OCD. It can be a real problem for people.

[@eversunnyguy]

Your explanation is brilliant Doc. Right on.

[@ericmalatesta9158]

Dr. Marks. Your videos on anxiety have have been extremely helpful to me. Just wanted to say keep up the excellent work but more importantly thank you! Eric.

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

Thanks for your channel. It helps me help others understand what my mental illnesses are and it helps me understand and change toward the better.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Excellent. That's a big reason I make the videos. It's not just for the people affected, but also for the people in your life so they can better understand.

[@Kaingieshia]

Thank you Dr. Tracey! I've learned a lot! And Now I think I have an idea of how resolve my problems, problems that I've not perceive before.

[@sunset33533]

Thanks. The book "30 Days to Reduce Anxiety" by Harper Daniels was also helpful.

[@justmai2476]

Thank you for this video! Loved seeing you appear on those computer screens! (x Here are some suggestions if you're in need of ideas: -Psychophathy Vs sociopathy -Dealing with learning disabilities and mental disorders/or other common comorbidities -Dating other mentally ill people -Aspergers/HFA

[@DrTraceyMarks]

You're welcome JustMai! Thanks for the suggestions, I've added them to my notepad.

[@jerrysmallwood8099]

Wow. some of these are me yet others arent at all. thank you for posting and explaining this.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

You're welcome Jerry.

[@killiansirishbeer]

Yes me too. I always did say I had tendencies because I knew it wasn't the full-on disorder.

[@sumayzebecreating]

I know this maybe not be the typical OCD example but when I'm feeling anxious about a relationship will have obsessive thoughts about if I'm making the right decision. Then to soothe myself I'll research the feelings/obsessions I'm having. I usually do that to feel better about staying and working things out but I never do.

[@vevenaneathna]

me trying to figure out if i have ocpd but i cant finish the video coz i stopped at 0:25 to figure out why the included stock footage has all these inverter looking circuits with big heat sinks and inductors. ah sh1t.....

[@melodyrogers9473]

Again, Dr. Marks, i also have OCD. See, I do have everything!! I'm too old for this stuff.

[@hanisiryani43]

Thanks you Dr Tracey. Your video light up my week ☺️👍

[@DrTraceyMarks]

You're welcome Hanis. Thanks for watching!

[@destinyjohnson8947]

Off comment, but your hair is beautiful! 🥰🥰 Also, thanks for explaining OCPD! Certified perfectionist here.

[@sstritmatter2158]

6:34 yes understand one cannot make another change. That said I have some if these traits so I'd say maybe not the full disorder but definitely a few strong tendencies. Such a good video and u really liked the image of showing the wiring if an engine to demonstrate personality and anxiety sort of being a cover over it that effects all the wiring. And OCD people are often confused with neat Nicks whereas hoarding might be a bigger sign.

[@chriserony]

I've recently been suggested to have OCPD, but this has all just behavior I've adapted to be high functioning while living with anxiety. I thought it was good because I'm such a productive employee. 😰 But it's become increasingly harder to let things go and not push my rigidity onto others. I don't want others to feel bad, I'm just right because it makes me feel safe to be on control I guess.

[@cobolsaurus]

I have had strong OCD since I was 9 years old. I tried all treatments and it has gotten better only after taking Seroquel. Thoughts are still there, but they are more controllable.

[@thegreatarkanum3037]

After seeing the difference on this two disorders i see clearly I have OCD and definitely Not OCDP I see the big difference I wash my hands often when i finish handling something i believe migh have germs , also i constantly double check to see if the stove knows are properly closed as well as the door locks at night and been late for work and fired for lateness 😊 cause i wont leave my house dirty , but am aware i do all these things and know its sometimes because anxiety and know manytimes are not exactly normam ...thanks for the video ....

[@Hinarushi]

I can relate very much to the songs stuck in my head after hearing them. Especially if they are catchy. I had a good laugh when this was portrayed in the video, as it I view it in a comical way now. Nontheless, it can be distressing and annoying for those who experience it, as it tends to come up at the most inappropriate times. Thank you Dr Marks!

[@secondopinion53]

Straight Forward.... Thanks learning alot

[@DrTraceyMarks]

You're welcome!

[@janisserga4851]

Thanks for videos 👍 very helpful. Do you have more about - Perfectionism, or OSPD, or Low Self-esteem ? Thanks

[@afiqsaha6945]

thanks for the direct info! my understanding of both disorders getting well

[@phoenixcosta6943]

i’m really sure i have ocd, i am more on the compulsion side but definitely get intrusive thoughts from time to time. for me it’s walking in certain patterns, touching things in the same spots on both hands (not make it even i guess) and something i even take short breathes to a certain pattern or amount of times or in like 4 sets of 4 short breathes bc it just feels right. i’m only 14 but my parents won’t let me go to a psychiatrist to get diagnosed. i’m also a perfectionist and always like when things go my way in group projects. this video was really helpful!! thank you!!

[@phoenixcosta6943]

*(to make it even)*

[@andreynevdakh7404]

4:19 NOW YOU GOT THAT SOUND STUCK IN MY HEAD! 😂

[@MD_P]

In school I missed so many deadlines and my grades suffered. We would make powerpoints or poster projects. Everyone would be almost finished and I would be just getting done with the styling and design. I would also have to prewrite and wait. However, because I have other disorders it wasn't so apparent especially for OCD with underlying OCPD tendencies. I also used to collect unnecessary things like keeping and still wearing a 7 yrs pair of sneakers even though they were wearing holes or keeping tags from bought clothing.

[@kittygirl833]

Well my personality disorder has caused me more problems than it has caused others...bpd

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Ok Christianna. As I mentioned, that's not the usual unless the problem comes through relationship conflicts. But it's certainly possible to feel the effect yourself.

[@renzwaschka1751]

I think that it causes distress to yourself in the fact that it causes distress to people around you. I don't think that people with personality disorders want to negatively affect people around them, it just happens that they incidentally do

[@karakoram4613]

For years, nearly every day I would get a major ascending scale stuck in my head. It was awful. It just climbs to infinity because there was no "audible range". Still....it was better than getting that Cake song stuck in my head. Yeah THAT song. You know the one. Oh wait no...I feel it creeping in. Not listening not listening not listening

[@druhgoment3545]

I am really enjoying your simple and direct way to explain these disorders. Your calm demeanor helps to bring clarity to what can be a very confusing and extremely overwhelming world when you have or you are the loved one of someone struggling with a mental illness. I would love to see a video explanation on different rage disorders. My son struggles with anxiety, rage and what we think may be OCPD. It is a confusing world for the ones around him because he is “fine”. Please help 🙂

[@user-DianaR960]

Very informative thank you ❤❤

[@mak3960]

Wow I feel like I have this but through years of therapy I’ve been directed to work towards flexibility. It’s something I have to like constantly think about to balance what I want because it’s ‘the right way’ and it needs to be done ‘correct’ or else it is ‘wrong’ or ‘bad’ and working in a way that allows things to be done without alienating everyone around me and thus causing me distress. Like if something was ‘wrong’ it could send me into a panic

[@Fr3nchfrii]

Personality disorders cause way more problems for those that are diagnosed with, or misdiagnosed with, or living undiagnosed with, than the people around them. Even the most toxic, abusive of the bunch are behaving that way because of shame and fear. So much of it they can't deal with the fact that it's theirs so they project it all out. I will be forever challenged by my PTSD but know I'm worlds better off than my mother when it comes to mental healing and overall life satisfaction. It's a fucking tragedy that generational trauma runs rampant and is inflated through all the gaslighting seeped into religion, capitalism, and politics in America.. but it's disgusting to me that it's also perpetuated because of stigma within the medical and psychiatric sphere. The lack of awareness is disheartening. I will go find a source more credible to continue with trying to learn about ocpd. I love the people in my life I'm trying to understand and will feel more inclined to trust someone who's sensitive to the suffering felt by the people they are supposed to be helping.

[@mjgabor1528]

When this monster grabs you it is a daily fight. I had it as a child after suffering a life threatening illness. I did overcome it with time but it owned me for about 6 years. There were no meds then and I was terrified about the need for therapy. Came out the other side alone Fine now

[@eversunnyguy]

They should rename OCPD as PPD (Perfection personality disorder)

[@renzwaschka1751]

I would say that it is still obsessive though

[@violetlove1893]

So glad I found this!!

[@Newcards4u]

I got what I would call mild OCD, or OCD tendencies... Mostly it's helpful, especially at work, as it makes me efficient and careful. But then I have what causes concern, which is my picking problem. Especially my face. If I feel a bump, lump, pimple or dry skin, I "have" to make it go away.. Like I can use up to an hour, searching my face for anything, and I will pick, and push until it bleeds. This becomes worse when I am not feeling great, and when I sort of come out of the trance and see my face (being way worse than before I started) .. It doesn't help... I did a treatment for my pimples, and for a while I had this perfect skin, and I didn't actually have anything to pick at, but after it came back again, it went back to old habits.. I have tried hypnosis, I have tried just dealing with it. I do sort of know where it comes from, it's just that I am unable to shift how my brain focuses. And I guess every time a pimple pops, or such, it's a reward, like a rush of serotonin. So it feels good. It just doesn't look good.. 😬

[@GogiRegion]

So when I was in middle school, I met one kid who a lot of students would call OCD, but they said at one point that they were diagnosed with OCPD not OCD and kind of gave a brief description. I think one thing they said was that OCPD is closer to stereotypical OCD than actual OCD. I honestly have never seen anything else mentioning OCPD since and I've kind of wondered about it. The existence of the disorder almost felt like some distant memory due to the lack of attention it gets.

[@LukePermoda]

Thanks for this video

[@goodintentions1302]

How much is Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder related to childhood trauma? For example, when the mother says "If you can't do better than that nobody's ever going to love you." Additionally the mother makes it clear that you are not valued as much as your siblings, or the neighbor kids.

[@jeanmariebeard1599]

I was just told that this is a more accurate diagnosis by my psychiatrist of only 2 years. It is really hard to accept, knowing I have only a few features of those listed

[@callistuskaoma5152]

Excellent presentation, thank you

[@renzwaschka1751]

I struggle the most with imposing onto other people

[@coffeetopia2814]

Hello, doctor. This is the very first time of me giving comments. I dont know where to start, but maybe it's better to start with thank you, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I have watched your videos for months and I felt so connected. I have bigger picture now of what I struggle with: ocpd, perfectionism and anxiety (more like overthinking) doctor, do you open a platform beside youtube where your audiences are able to interact with you in more private way? pardon me, do you read email from your audiences? I just want to deliver some thoughts and maybe questions, but it's totally fine if you dont. Your video is so helpful. I laughed at some parts cause your elaboration defined some of my experiences.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Hi Ghidaq. Thanks for continuing to watch and I"m so glad the videos have been helpful. Thanks also for commenting. 🙂 I do respond to emails - however, keep in mind I'm not on KZbin full time. I'm pretty busy seeing patients each day - I squeeze in the videos on an off day. I do my best to answer comments and I don't have a lot of time left for other interactions. My email is in the about section of my channel.

[@deborahswart1718]

Thank you, very enlightening.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

You’re welcome

[@bunnyfeng4635]

I recently spent 3 days in a row without eating because I was hyper focused on my homework and had a hard time even sleeping because of it. I honestly would've thought nothing of it if my psychiatrist didn't diagnose me with OCPD. It's almost impossible to pull me away from my tasks because I have to do it in a certain way.

[@Turtlesrcool95]

I have been diagnosed with OCD by many doctors. Then one therapist in Memphis diagnosed me with OCPD. I literally have none of the symptoms you described for OCPD. She’s the only one who’s diagnosed me with OCPD. I think it’s a misdiagnosis because it clearly doesn’t describe me. I have intense anxiety and I’m not close to a perfectionist.

[@DrTraceyMarks]

I have another video talking only about CCD coming up in a few weeks. You can relate to it.

[@Turtlesrcool95]

Dr. Tracey Marks I was definitely able to relate to it!!!

[@adigunisiaka1540]

I liked your videos, this says everything about my OCD but what's the treatment?

[@iBeKrystyne]

Dr. Tracey, great video. Do you think you can make one relating skin excoriation disorder to ocd??

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Sure. I'll add that to my list. Thanks for the suggestion

[@trivanalburris]

Well the anxiety definitely says OCD, however I try to hide it and only let it out every so often. So definitely leaning towards OCPD. In truth I probably have neither and just have OC tendencies

[@TyCat7]

Curious what your take on ROCD is. I've had ROCD for years, and it went on for so long without treatment and therapy (that didn't help like it should've). Now, I've been suffering from atypical depression, and being a graysexual doesn't help either.

[@AnarchoPurp]

“Personality disorders cause problems for the /other/ people around you, but not for the person with the personality.” This is incredibly misleading and should be considered medical misinformation. Personality disorders DO cause massive issues for the people who have them. I have OCPD and it makes things incredibly difficult. I’m constantly anxious about getting stuff done correctly, and if I can’t do things “right” I get super depressed and can’t do anything at all. I sought treatment for years without much success until I learned about this disorder. All personality disorders are harmful to the person that has them. Characterizing us as selfish and unwilling to change adds to the existing stigma. Please stop.

[@destiny4945]

so if im trying to do my school work and songs or random thoughts randomly come up and will NOT go away no matter how hard i try to stop thinking about them to do my work is that ocd? songs or other random things constantly pop in my head and then i cant do my work at all bc they wont go away. when i try to get the songs to go away its like they just get louder and worse and stay there longer and its rly hard to distract myself especially at school. 😫 idk if this happens to everyone but its very annoying and distracting and affects me from doing my work. my teachers call me slow but its really just the racing thoughts i cant get out of my head to actually focus

[@brylaw]

I don't know if you will see my comment on this old video, but I'd love for you to discuss the overlap and differences between OCPD and autism. There seems to be some similarities to me!

[@Hoodooray]

Plenty of people have heard about OCD (and think they know what it is) but most have never heard of OCPD and probably don't know it exists as a thing

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Yes I agree. That’s why I made the video. 😊

[@melodyrogers8839]

Hi Dr Marks. My money is not miserly. I don't have any. 2nd part is me. So, I have something else.. yes, it's Melody. Great explanation.

[@jennifercottrell2588]

Definitely have had some of compulsive behavior throughout life. Is that normal? They don't interrupt my day, but I always count tiles, compare shades of color, smell fingers, imagine sp.ething, etc.

[@moroccanman1382]

youare Amazing doctor; thanks for your insightful video. i am wondering if depression triggers ocpd because of lack of focus i cant finish task and spend lo of time to memorize things

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Thank you Moroccan man. No OCPD develops independently of depression. It’s part of your personality make up. But people with OCPD can get depressed.

[@moroccanman1382]

thanks doctor tracy for your Answer. I am wondering if 50 percent is full remission? i have been on prozac 1 year and 11 eleven month but i am partially better but i did not reach full remission but my doctor told me that full remission is only 50 percent for your depression? and she said i dont have neither dyshtmia neither treatement resistant depression, could you help to answer my question.thanks in advance doctor tracy.

[@threadflowers9844]

Jack Nicholson's OCD character Mr. Eudal(sp) in the video "As Good As It Gets".

[@mushroom-mac617]

I’d love to know how to stop hoarding useless items, I am moving house soon and would like to be able to start again and not feel the need to keep hold of junk, I know it’s silly but I feel terrible when I have to throw things away.

[@mimi.strachan]

I think it's a crazy claim to say people with OCPD don't feel the problems that come with having this disorder. I feel like the avenue of "what happens when they aren't perfect" needs to be explored in more depth. I have OCPD and am constantly riddled with anxiety out of fear of how I'll react when things don't go perfectly in all areas; socially, academically, body image, and many other ways. It becomes debilitating very quickly.

[@d1cks0da5]

Hello dr Tracy, if you see this comment could you talk about what to do if I suffer from ocd and adhd? I cant take adhd medication because of the OCD and I dont know what to do

[@sarahkittelson622]

I was married to a man for 15 years, and during the divorce he was diagnosed with OCPD. It was a long and horrible divorce. Nothing wrong with him....everybody else is the problem. He wasn't that bad when we got married.....terribly neat, but we had 10 good years, as long as I adapted. When I couldn't handle it anymore and called out his weird BS, all holy heck blew up. I miss the man I married, but found out it is a 'progressive nuerosis' as the Dr. told me, and he won't get better. It's sad, and I hope my kids can manage him in old age.

[@BungBeak]

4:39 song name?

[@katiebee2937]

Hello doctor I am new to your channel I wonder if you have ever done or will do a video on Brain fog. I also have depression + some anxiety and know this is a common symptom. It is the most annoying one for me. Is there anything I can do? Thanks

[@DrTraceyMarks]

Hi Katie Bee. I'm currently working on a video on depression and poor memory/thinking problems. The focus isn't brain fog per say, but I discuss how depression clouds your thinking. It's still in the editing phase to be posted later. Stay tuned.

[@katiebee2937]

Will do that's just what I need. 👍🏼

[@Whoknows12334]

I was just diagnosed by a psychiatrist with ocpd and a few other things , my whole life I assumed ocd but. Iam a perfectionist but not a work aholic , work doesn’t come first tho .i don’t need to be the best

[@Calfuray]

I don't agree with your statement about OCPD not causing problems for the person suffering from it. I'm diagnosed with OCPD and I sought out help because my desire to be perfect all the time caused me a lot of stress and eventually lead to severe depression. I ended up being hospitalized for three months back in 2015 and to this day I still struggle with these problems. Although I have gotten better at handling it through therapy.

[@rnovotny645]

How do you know which type you have, OCD or OCPD? I want to receive a proper diagnosis. I know mine is more the personality one but I want to make some changes!

[@r0n1n-]

No, I *do* *not* have (as in: fit your criteria) "Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder". Nice try.

[@Yamsandjams-w4t]

Can you make a video explaining why OCD is no longer considered an anxiety disorder? I have OCD and I know anxiety can be part of the experience but it doesn’t have to, and it’s not what causes OCD. But it’s hard to explain it to other people.