1974 AS Cadet vs Kohler Wellworth Ingenium

These are both great toilets but the Cadet takes the win. Please suggest another test you'd like to see between two of my toilets.
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1974 AS Cadet Rating: (A)
2005 Kohler Wellworth Rating: (A-)
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A Ratings (Best of the Best):
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💎: Best Toilet/Urinal Ever
A+: EPIC
A: Amazing
A-: Awesome
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B Ratings:
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B+: Great
B: Good
B-: Decent
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C Ratings:
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C+: Tolerable
C: Mediocre
C-: Junky
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E Ratings:
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E+ Bad
E: Horrible
E-: Intolerable
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F Ratings:
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F+: Worthless
F: Appalling
F-: Absolute Trash
🖕: Worst Toilet/Urinal Ever

[@JoliMorae]

Damn the cadets water level looked super high

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

You wouldn't want to clog one of those

[@DannyHerrera-uc7gs]

yep

[@cameraredeye3115]

Wow, what a close match between two excellent toilets. The Cadet has more heavy-duty flushing potential while the Ingenium Wellworth has almost as good a performance on less than half the water. I counted a final score of 2-2 on the performance tests, with the tiebreak going to the Ingenium Wellworth because of its vastly superior water efficiency (1.6 GPF vs. 3.5 GPF for the Cadet). Fantastic match!

[@retroryan838]

The cadet would be better to install just as long as water isn’t scarce where you live, such as the American West.

[@ASF.Plumbing]

I like both toilets but I prefer the cadet.

[@emilyceluch4815]

I can't believe they both almost passed the test!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yeah! Both are great toilets.

[@fp5495]

My grandma had an early 70s cadet in harvest gold. The flush noise reminds me of her house. PS: I wish American Standard would go back to the older logo because it's way cooler than that wimpy script they started doing in the early 90s.

[@chrisclark4144]

Amazing toilets but the Cadet wins also awesome video as always

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Thanks!

[@Sirenfan5830]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations you got a giant squeer toilet

[@Anthony-do2ns]

Your videos are the best😁

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Thanks!

[@xx_aubrey_gl_xx8337]

i love both of them

[@thevultrantransituniverse1487]

LOVE the Cadet!

[@normanreynolds9889]

Owen, I like the 74 cadet. It outperformed the WellWorth ingenium.

[@eftelevatorsmore532]

I would take the Cadet anytime

[@VisibleVarsos]

Dude I am terrified of toilets, have been sinse I was little but I like to watch these.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I hope they help you overcome your fear

[@NyxKemo]

I used to be terrified of toilets but videos like these helped me overcome that fear

[@retroryan838]

I like the Cadet more.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Same

[@GirlOfDoorClosers]

cool!

[@IkkyuD]

Wow, it’s already night time

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yep

[@Allie644]

3:42 is the problem with the small end traps

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

True

[@louievillslugger5208]

1974 AS cadet is my favorite cuz I want the 1974 AS cadet occ plumbing

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Same, I like these.

[@Biologiaelpilar594]

2005 mansfield alto vs Kohler ingenium

[@micah_ferguson.1904]

Nice! Can you do the 1980s plebe vs the 1980s wellworth WG?

[@tpmplumbing6748]

Good suggestion

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

The Plebe would destroy the Waterguard

[@Celeron_619]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations #ObeyThePlebe

[@whisper_ishere518]

Do the 74 cadet vs that cadet that could take like 80 ft of toilet paper that was made back in the "standard" era. (I dont know which year that is)

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It would destroy this

[@gmartcharb]

How come the ingenium has a different water line in the bowl? Is it a different ingenium? A different one from when you tested an ingenium with a class five or the same one?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

This is a Wellworth and the one I compared to a Class 5 was a Highline.

[@gmartcharb]

I'VE GOT TO BE PULLING ON MY OWN LEG

[@AndrewGenovese-lo3kw]

Yesterday I was at my lake beach and the mens bathroom has that Kohler wellworth ingenium your using. Yesterday when I flushed the toilet I held the handle down when the tank was empty and it double flushed!!!!!!!! And I was shocked and surprised at the same time!!!!!!! Can you make a video of your Kohler wellworth ingenium with an overfilled tank please????????????????

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It's pretty uncommon for one of these to double flush. Usually when they're using more water than they're supposed to, they just flush longer but don't double flush. I did an overfilled tank test on an Ingenium that I recently tested so that will be posted eventually.

[@AndrewGenovese-lo3kw]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Ok

[@westmichiganvintagetoilets]

Both are great but Cadet is definitely the superior one here

[@carribigelow3724]

Do you have a standard cadet I was thinking if you did standard cadet vs American standard cadet

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I do have a Standard Cadet!

[@loaybarada6197]

Have fun swimming

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yeah, this house is a block away from the ocean so you bet!

[@lance2152]

can you do the 2000s cadet agenst the 80s wellworth

[@YourLocalSnag]

When an American standard cadet can’t take something, you already know that any other toilet can’t take it.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yeah, except maybe a Class Five.

[@YourLocalSnag]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations oh yeah, forgot about that. I want to see a wellworth lite vs a class five, see one of the best compared to the worst..

[@countryballswo]

cadet beats anything but i think both of them are great toilets!, ps: i think you should destroy those fill valves

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Agreed, except I love those fill valves

[@JD8457Toilets]

considering the wellworth uses 1/3 the water the cadet does, i think it is the winner

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I'd still consider them about equal because the Cadet probably does better on normal use.

[@locotrucker46]

Put the wash cloth inside the grocery bag

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

That would stop it up

[@BumpyRoad701]

To be honest I dont understand why water levels on toilets are so high?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Probably so they stay clean

[@emilyceluch4815]

What's that brown stuff?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Dirt

[@alecfrancis628]

This video shows why I love all the older 3.5+ gpf toilets even more than Kohler Ingeniums, which are the best low flow!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Same

[@lance2152]

thought the cadet is better i would take the ingenium bc it uses less water to install, but they both great

[@retroryan838]

I think the cadet would be better to install because the more water it uses, the more likely things will go down. As long as water isn’t scarce where you live, the toilet is great.

[@CrestwoodRocks]

That particular AS Cadet looks like it has the AS Plebe trapway

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

They are a little different

[@CLASSICTOILETSUTAH]

If the ingenium took 5-7 bags, then why the heck did it fail these tests?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Those bags in the other test were rolled up

[@jbsimmons54]

Notice how much smaller the Kohler tank is compared to American Standard.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yep!

[@gmartcharb]

Is it night?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yep

[@coltconnorproductions1016]

The rounded bowl wellworths are not as good as the longer versions

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I've seen the opposite

[@steelehainley4348]

Me too

[@whisper_ishere518]

I prefer the ingenium

[@whisper_ishere518]

Also WG vs 1st gen wellworth

[@MarkTorgusen]

Skibdi dop dop yes

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Lol

[@Nik-kh1du]

You should put the cadet in your bathroom

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I already have one in my bathroom

[@3nzocarter11]

I want both toilets

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Come get them. You can have them for free if you want.

[@3nzocarter11]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations ima be talking to virginian restroom tours and restorations for a toilet idk how many I'm allowed to have prob just one because small backyard

[@3nzocarter11]

I don’t live in Texas anyway 😂

[@AllAlbertasFixtures]

For the rag and bag test I feel like the ingenium passed even though both clogged, the ingenium took it past the trap way which seems better. Idk just a thought

[@locotrucker46]

Get the bowling ball 😅

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Lol

[@jasanbradley4607]

McDonald's fries chicken nuggets sweet n sour

[@louievillslugger5208]

I don't have a cadet

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

You should try and get one!

[@jasanbradley5423]

Be careful and stay

[@jasanbradley5423]

Sorry

[@GamesRoom109]

Cadet is better

[@Fuyu714]

Personal opinion Don't fight over As and Kohler

[@TopphatClan2024]

Cadet I wanted a cadet but I got the trash Briggs alnum.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Bummer

[@TopphatClan2024]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations yep I hope I get 1m dollars 💵 to buy a devoro

[@locotrucker46]

Cadet flushes way better

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Definitely

[@AndrewGenovese-lo3kw]

12:29 12:30 12:31

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

The Cadet wasn't doing so well

[@IkkyuD]

Swirlrli fush on the cadet

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yeah, they do swirl a lot.

[@MarshallGordon-do6ly]

Kohler ingenium is better 😁😐

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I respect your opinion

[@vanitysmith4897]

No your father to be

[@KayneYT15]

The cadet did better

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yeah, I'm not surprised