1965 Nationaline Toilet Tests

[@CarterLeePeterson]

Why don’t you ever use a plunger if it gets clogged, I’m sure you don’t use a plunger if you use the bathroom in your house or somewhere else.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I never used a plunger because I can't plunge a toilet one handed. Now that I have a better setup, I probably will.

[@Wackywhoismy]

This test is gonna be good

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Thanks

[@TheSavage3.6]

This has a very interesting flush, a little weak for how big the trapway opening is in my opinion. Question, would it be possible to fix the cracks in the bowl? Or is it not bad enough and best just to leave it alone?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Unfortunately I haven't found any way to fix cracks like this.

[@tcdplumbingmore9650]

Very cool toilet it did good/okay on the test I bet the parts were brass before like all brass…

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

The flush valve was plastic originally

[@CrestwoodRocks]

I think you said you got the flush handle from an older Gerber Mount Vernon toilet.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yep!

[@redbone971]

My aunt had this exact toilet, but I don't know what kind it was.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I wish I could figure it out

[@taronjeroneharris1313]

That toilet is quite similar to the one my late father had in his bathroom before he replaced it with a modern toilet. His was leaning to the side.😂

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

That's interesting. I wonder what it was

[@OfficerNifty]

Why is the siphon jet on top of it like that lol

[@taronjeroneharris1313]

It looks weird doesn't it?😂

[@OfficerNifty]

It does lol

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It's an extra vortex jet to help the water swirl.

[@dustinleonsky4513]

That jet in the bowl very similar to the Eljer Duplex and Sylenta from the 1950's.

[@RodneyBoy2010]

Yep it’s a rheem

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Usually they're branded

[@vintagetoiletsvt]

I've never seen anything like this before. Although it's interesting as well as unique, you proved that it could be a problem in real use due to that very narrow trapway.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yeah, I doubt it would be very good in a normal setting but it's as unique as it gets.

[@vthplumbing2280]

I made a homemade toilet that litteraly passed all the tests you tested your toilet on! Anyways amazing toilet!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Awesome!

[@QVZPlumbing]

Nationaline Envoy

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It's different from the other Envoy I filmed.

[@RodneyBoy2010]

This looks like a rheem richmond

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It does remind me of those

[@VortensVienna2024]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations they might have a toilet name that starts with an i

[@RodneyBoy2010]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations the toilet that starts with an i, i don't know is it imperial

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

@@RodneyBoy2010 I have one of those

[@RodneyBoy2010]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations the model name or the brand name?

[@Supcharged]

that's a massive trapway opening basically looks like that of a washdown

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Yeah, I was a little disappointed by the performance

[@normanreynolds9889]

Treasure trove of a toilet. Epic.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Ikr!

[@masterflush5676]

This toilet is really awesome but the performance could use a little work. The dirt test honestly surprised me though too. I think this would do great on normal use. Also, is that chip near the top of the trapway some sort of jet?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I don't think there is any damage to the inside of the bowl

[@masterflush5676]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Interesting, I wonder what that jet like thing is above the trapway opening!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

@@masterflush5676 Something very interesting

[@Modern_Stuff]

Far better than a kohler wellworth lite plus the trapway can't even fit a golf ball which means why it's one of kohlers biggest failure of toilets ever!

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Exactly

[@angelacecil707]

Flush rating is an B+ performance rating is an A-

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

This was a really cool toilet

[@plumbingstuffinoregon2471]

That's cool, I really like it! I'm sure it would be fine on normal use.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I'm not sure, it would probably work well enough.

[@ezraosuna3919]

This looks like a mix between an Eljer Sylenta and a Rheem.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I wonder if that's where they got their inspiration.

[@StandardCadet-ou5hu]

Possibly a Eljer that's not branded? I think its an eljer because of that jet

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It is too different from Eljer

[@aldoayhoniz190]

The trapway opening is huge, but inside it must be restrictive. The toilet is rare and unique but I'd say it's just a decent performer.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I agree

[@CrestwoodRocks]

Trapway looks like it is an Artesian

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

It does remind me of that.

[@Bats-and-balls_fl]

Little wasp thing -OCC 2023

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

Lol

[@Bats-and-balls_fl]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorationslol

[@floridiantoiletsandcompute9449]

Are you keeping this toilet or dissecting it?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I'm unsure

[@TroyTheLawnMan]

​@@OCC_Plumbing_and_RestorationsKeep it

[@i.m.energetic9762]

Poll: what's your opinion on pit toilets

[@i.m.energetic9762]

For me: They are nothing but a useless piece of crap you can fall in there and get trapped and you might not survive. You can also drop your phone in there and there are nasty as hell Overall: pit toilets can smash themselves

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I think they're gross but they definitely have their place. For example, I hiked on part of the Bright Angel Trail in the Grand Canyon and it was really handy to have a pit toilet there instead of just doing it on the side of the trail. They are good for remote areas like that but real toilets are always better when possible.

[@ryanthenascarguy4871]

Is there a way to unclog the rim jets?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I pounded the toilet on its back to force stuff out the hole it came in and I also use a coat hanger wire to dislodge dirt in the rim.

[@ryanthenascarguy4871]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations 1 Did it work?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

@@ryanthenascarguy4871 Yep

[@chuckiegarcia5095]

my guess is it's either a rare vitromex or a sears.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

I'm guessing something cheap

[@chuckiegarcia5095]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations LOL! maybe it is. the trapway reminds me of a norris toilet.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

@@chuckiegarcia5095 It looks sorta like my 1972 Norris

[@chuckiegarcia5095]

@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations cool! the norris is a good toilet! they're hard to find nowadays.

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

@@chuckiegarcia5095 I've only seen 2

[@ILVT_Plumbing]

Where did you get this toilet?

[@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations]

The toilet graveyard aka "that pile in the woods"