OCD vs Autism

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@ghirathim Жыл бұрын

Hey! I have both autism and OCD and I just wanted to clarify some things. You don't touch on obsessions which are a core part of OCD, and mainly discuss compulsions. While some people with OCD don't know why they are doing their compulsions, people who have done more therapy and self-work will be aware of the obsessions that are causing their compulsions. An obsession for example may be a fear of contamination, and lead to overwashing hands or washing things over and over. When you discuss being OCD about things in this video, I think the distinction between autism and OCD as I understand it is "am I particular about this because it feels right or the other way feels wrong" (Autism) vs "am I particular about this because of a fear" (OCD). So for example a person might hate it when people use their things, and maybe that's coming from like a contamination fear (gross, they are going to get me sick) or like a fear of loss (if this doesn't stay in this specific place I will lose it forever).

@x_x-u7h Жыл бұрын

Totally disagree with u , I certainly have ocd Nd I do touch things which gives me intrusive thought and typically all wrong information about OCD u provided, all u told is stereotypes and norms nothing else, you don't even seems to know what is OCD all about don't you ? I don't know what u have, but definitely not OCD go for chack up againe, and neither I do suspect u have Austism , people with austim aren't able to analytical thinking , which u clearly can

@SilverFaelingXoe7 10 ай бұрын

This is a great comment

@catq6864 4 ай бұрын

This! I think the way she describes OCD is not actually OCD 🙈… to be fair, I haven’t watched the whole video yet.

@beaniebabysnail Ай бұрын

So earlier today I was trying to explain the 'things I Have to do' and I separated them into the 'have to do x otherwise y' and 'it feels right and there isn't much explanation beyond that' and oh!

@the-iron-queen 21 күн бұрын

Yeah I agree. I feel like the entire core of OCD is missing here. I mean I know the wording is rubbing me the wrong way, but also, for us with OCD it's incredibly important to learn not to listen to the incredible distress and unrealistic fears, and - if possible - sit with the uncomfortablity to overcome our fears. Sure we appear particular about thing, but that's born from often mindbreaking fears that if we don't do things in a particular way, something terrible will happen. So overall it seems to me that all that is talked about here is similar symptoms and something closer to how OCD is portrayed in media, but not the core issue that makes OCD OCD and is actually what OCD is about. Diagnosed Pure O haver here btw, with only very few non-thought related obessions and compulsions.

@cirkusanette 10 ай бұрын

I think there is a bit of misunderstanding. the reason we do compulsions is because of the obsessions. Your compulsions bring you more distress and you don’t want to do them, but they do bring temporary relief and the OCD brain is usually like “if you don’t do this then x will happen”. You can end up avoiding doing certain activities or touching,seeing, etc certain things because they trigger those intrusive thoughts,ureges, etc

@JAZZYGIRL1988W Жыл бұрын

I was diagnosed with OCD first at 16 but I never thought it fit. I was just diagnosed this summer with ASD and the psychiatrist agreed that OCD doesn’t really fit for me. Same thing with BPD, they are often mixed up

@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын

There's a lot of that goes on. I think that as more of the late diagnosed ASD adults are identified that it's probably going to help clear these things up. I've definitely got OCD, but I also have a definite preference for doing somethings the same way every time, because it just feels better. I don't get at all anxious or upset doing it other ways, I just prefer to do it that way. As opposed to my OCD things where I do get kind of upset if I've been letting myself go along with the rituals.

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

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@sketchadoodle4526 Жыл бұрын

I was diagnosed with OCD when I was 13. At 32, I was diagnosed with autism and ADHD. This is so on point.

@leabhairagustae7279 2 жыл бұрын

I thought I had OCD for years before I researched autism and finally got a diagnosis! Another great video, Irene!

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@DanaAndersen 2 жыл бұрын

I've been diagnosed autistic for several years now and am increasingly thinking I also have OCD, but every doctor I've spoken to about it prefers to just write it off as 'part of autism', or part of having anxiety. Thank you for making such an informative video on the exact topic I needed!

@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын

I've definitely got OCD and I'm working on getting my ASD diagnosed. Really, the best explanation I've heard for OCD rituals is more or less, I want to stop, but I can't. As opposed to an alcoholism, or more drug addictions, which are more like I want to stop, but it's fun. In all honesty, I'm not really sure that getting the OCD diagnosed is really that useful, at least not unless you've already taken care of any anxiety that's resulting form the ASD. If the OCD stuff is still there, then it may be time to actually deal with that, assuming that it's still an issue.

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@twix2615 9 ай бұрын

@@SmallSpoonBrigade As someone who has been an addict I can tell you addiction can go from "I want to stop, but it's fun" to "I want to stop, but I can't" real fast. At a certain point it stops being fun at all, but you can't imagine living your life without it or if you don't do it you will have bad withdrawal. I would say most people I have met who have experienced addiction did not keep using drugs or drinking just because it was "fun".

@ratskelll 7 ай бұрын

@@twix2615yup. With some drugs, like alcohol, it can literally be "I want to stop, but I'm drinking so much cold turkey will kill me"

@juliak.9390 Жыл бұрын

I can not tell you, how much comfort I get out of listening to you being totally normal to me. I literally go "Yes! YESSS- of course! You get it!" Gives me relief!

@annienamaste8283 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this🙏💖 An explanation of the differences in repetitions, preferences, needs, etc between OCD and Autism that I found helpful when I heard it is that with OCD the repetitions and rituals are not actually something the person wants to have to do and as you say they often feel trapped by it and long to be free of it. Whereas with Autism the repetitions, rituals, etc actually bring the person positive feelings and can be joyful for them and they don't wish to be free of them. That seems to be the defining difference between them and so helpful to know. Thank you Irene, I love your channel 💕💕

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@elliotschildhoodchannel 4 ай бұрын

I was just diagnosed with OCD very recently, I tried to ask my therapist about ASD and he went through the criteria with me,, he said that because I am able to make friends and force myself to fit in it's not ASD. But I STILL feel like there is SOMETHING that is further wrong with me than OCD, OCD doesn't cover it all, I have more weirdness!

@SweetiePieTweety Жыл бұрын

The pausing clarification about the light in the meltdown that was brilliant you are good at this

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@kuroyamaevisekai Жыл бұрын

Honestly this was a great video however I kinda wish you had said something like show OCD tendencies about rather than OCD about because I don't mean to like be too picky on your wording but reminds me of how people say "Oh I'm so OCD (about ...)" when they just like being neat and clean and don't actually struggle with our intrusive thoughts and minimalize it. I just thought it'd be good givea heads up -coming from someone who's both autistic and has OCD

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@ghirathim Жыл бұрын

I agree

@shimmerpop 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, as someone with both, this really bothered me as well. Autistic discomfort is not the same as OCD and I wish she wouldn't use it as an adjective.

@madeleinec1107 2 жыл бұрын

Before I watch, thank you for making this. I was diagnosed with OCD as a teenager, but I would always 'blame' my autistic traits on it, thinking I couldn't be existing with both conditions. It's important to talk about the confusing entanglement of the two!

@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын

Depending on when this was, that may have been the official criteria. I've definitely got both OCD and ADHD which used to be a no-no as a diagnosis and I'm almost certainly dealing with ASD on top of that which also isn't really something that anybody wants to diagnose.

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@palomatome6154 Жыл бұрын

Hey!! Your video was super clear, I'm questioning whether I have BPD + OCD + Social anxiety + High sensitive person (sensory). But as someone with a huge ocd i wanted to make a small correction... You're not a "little OCD" or "very ocd" about something, it's not an adjective!! Id say "rigid" instead, maybe! If you want to describe how strong you feel regarding doing things just right for you!! Thank you for the video!! It did help me!

@SmallSpoonBrigade Жыл бұрын

The term for "a little OCD" is OCPD, it's more or less a more pronounced form of what people refer to as being a "Type A" personality.

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@bridgetericaa Жыл бұрын

i was trying to summarise autism to a friend recently by saying we just have strong preferences (things we do like and things we dont like) and i feel like that encompasses everything and is the reason why the other autism symptoms exist. u explained this so perfectly, thank you 🌷

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@alienjourney Жыл бұрын

I have negative ocd thoughts and it will never go away. It's just there.

@tdsollog Жыл бұрын

Wow. The description about the lighting… spot on for me too.

@augustnewell3916 Жыл бұрын

you get me, although I've never been diagnosed with Autism, you're descriptions of feelings and such I relate to so much more than other peoples.

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@fitcoachmarshall4310 9 ай бұрын

Holy crap, you blew my mind when you started talking about eating preferences, ie burger + fries with drink every few bites. I HAVE to eat my burger with fries or beans. I rarely EVER have had just a burger. If I did, I had no other choice and was able to only through logical reasoning. Otherwise, I just won’t eat. I got really good at functioning in high physical stress environments/situations on lack of food.

@SweetiePieTweety Жыл бұрын

This playlist was amazing you did a great job of breaking all of this down very helpful to understand and differentiate the behaviors and how one can drive the other and vice versa. Thank you for all of the hard work that you’ve put into making these videos very helpful

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@NEnigma777 4 ай бұрын

I appreciated this so much! I have the same issues with lighting! Lighting makes me lose control. I hate overhead lighting. I definitely have had meltdowns at work when someone turns on the overhead fluorescent lights. It’s like I’m being stabbed with a knife or something. I also can’t stand that the apartment building next to me as extremely bright LED security lights, and even with my double curtains, I can still see some of the light. I can’t sleep until it’s completely shut out. I also hate having lights on during the day when it’s bright enough with just the curtains open. I lose it when people come in my house and turn the lights on during the day!

@thechickincharge1073 Жыл бұрын

If I enter a room that is lit overhead like a baseball field and there is loud music that is not my preferred genre I immediately feel a sense of panic! If I am able to change it, I immediately swap out overhead lighting for multiple lamps with warm white bulbs and greatly soften the music to a lovely background type with a light and happy jazz feel. I watch my family react to both and whether they admit it or not they are far less frenzied by my preferences!😂 I also have very interrupted sleep patterns and often wake up to tinkle and am bombarded by obtrusive thoughts, laden with worry and dread and every horrible thing. I also suffer from fibromyalgia and they now are seeing how it connects with neurodivergence. I often will sleep way too hard the last 1-2 hours of the night and, upon waking up, will immediately radiate high intensity pain throughout my whole body for about 5-10 minutes. The kind that feels like electricity raising massive goosebumps everywhere. I have the compulsion to tidy/clean things when I am super stressed. I always told myself it is my way of handling my worry by channeling it into something positive but I have become a workaholic trying to balance what I can’t control. I love when things are aesthetically pleasing to me and set a certain mood even in my everyday life, right down to perfect background music. My own genre of music brings me great comfort and helps me breath and actually lowers my blood pressure. I enjoy my patterns of life like the way I take my medicine, make my tea a feed all my cats in the morning. It starts my day right and gives me a sense of being able to let go and go forward. I feel restless when my pattern is off and that feeling lingers through out my day. I think being an autistic mama has actually made me a good one. I think in details that many typicals miss and always try to give attention to their needs, mentally, spiritually and physically. My oldest disagrees with that though and says that I am an impossible act to follow. She has personality disorders though, and my other 3 adult children say that I was/am a good mama.

@kaylapoyer1094 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your videos. I was diagnosed with Epilepsy when I was about 7 years old. I recently discovered that ADHD, ASD, and OCD are all connected to Epilepsy and was never told that. I went through a major shutdown and was in a very dark place in my life and your videos really helped me alot. Doctors would just lable me with depression and anxiety and I would question WHAT was causing the depression. I wanted answers. I am very curious like that. And when I finally got diagnosed with ADD, OCD, and ASD it was like a weight was lifted off of my shoulders, because I finally felt like I had answers as to why I am the way I am.

@LANIkoo Жыл бұрын

Is it not normal for people to skip meals of they aren't comfy in the surrounds? I have a c-ptsd diagnosis. I think there is a huge overlap in symptoms of PTSD as well.

@alisonbarlow7836 7 ай бұрын

I just got diagnosed with autism and OCD.

@heartsybeats45 Жыл бұрын

Thank you your videos are always so helpful 😊

@clivematthews95 10 ай бұрын

You’re such a great friend

@MagnitudePerson Жыл бұрын

I used to suffer from severe Stereotype Behavior, which is Autism's answer to compulsions/OCD. Although mine were anxiety and nervous-system based, an overstimulated and damaged nervous system i had from traumatic anxious stressful experiences as a kid. I'm doing okay now though

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@turtleanton6539 10 ай бұрын

Same

@orionathena 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video, very informative ❤

@zckyych 5 ай бұрын

i rly believe i was misdiagnosed w ocd. i went to the hospital and when the doctor said i had it it felt like a joke bc they seemed to be basing it on stereotypes...

@seanclarke5969 Жыл бұрын

I have ocd as well sometime I can't do a a mediation that I want to cos I get caught up in my compulsions is having ocd later in life mean I could have autism as well you have tought me then tought

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@nattokki Жыл бұрын

I'm just so confused with myself rn 😅

@n.t.1724 11 ай бұрын

3:27 - 3:51 so if a person is non Verbal and/ or doesn't have a non Verbal way to communicate, one won't explain to others that they need to do things in a certain way/ repeat things, but their need to do so will remain. Is it accurate to say ' for the most part' a person can explain their behavior? Because I don't know if there are more Verbal Autistics than Non Verbal Autistics in existance. It may just be that we often center Verbal Autistics more than we do Non Verbal Autistics

@llcourt Жыл бұрын

Ive started this new thing where I have to shake my head back and forth and I don’t really have an explanation except one day I felt a pulling in my neck and did it for like a minute straight and then I felt really good. Is this an ocd thing? Ive not been diagnosed with autism but one of my Austin friends insist that I am (like they talk about it as if ive been diagnosed)

@juniormako6184 Жыл бұрын

@freia557 Жыл бұрын

Could either be a tic or stimming (which is very usual for autistics). Sometimes it’s really hard to differentiate them from someone who has tics and also stims a lot.